Western Standard - February 23, 2023


OE： Trudeau is losing Canada to China and illegal immigration


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Did China interfere in the Canadian election in 2019 and in 2021? Is this a problem between Justin Trudeau and China? Is China trying to buy a minority government in Canada or is it trying to disrupt our democracy? The answer may surprise you.

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00:00:00.000 Well, welcome back to Auto Exposed. I'm David Creighton, the Senior Parliamentary Columnist
00:00:15.100 for the Western Standard. It's a real pleasure to be back. How's February treating you? I hate
00:00:23.540 winter but at least uh at least it's been relatively mild throughout some of this this
00:00:29.480 month uh expecting some more snow here today but that doesn't stop us from get getting you the
00:00:36.000 news you need to hear and there's there's lots happening right now the story i'm going to
00:00:41.560 introduce and begin with this morning is not necessarily the one you're going to read in the
00:00:47.820 newspaper or online or see on television tonight but believe me it's probably the most important
00:00:54.240 story of the week and of the month because it really is important in terms of how our democracy
00:01:02.460 in this country is functioning and how it's really dysfunctional and I refer of course
00:01:08.400 to this story about
00:01:10.700 rabid Chinese 1.00
00:01:12.980 interference
00:01:14.320 in two Canadian elections.
00:01:17.020 Now, we already knew there was possible
00:01:18.660 interference in the 2019
00:01:20.040 election in terms of greater
00:01:22.500 Toronto area candidates
00:01:24.460 receiving funding
00:01:26.380 from China.
00:01:28.480 China has targeted candidates
00:01:30.120 to win. Most of those candidates
00:01:32.720 apparently were liberal. There might have been
00:01:34.500 a conservative or two,
00:01:36.580 but
00:01:36.780 the verdict is still out on that. And there's an independent investigation going on in the
00:01:42.920 House of Commons about that. And believe me, that's extremely, extremely important. We need
00:01:48.480 to know what exactly happened in 2019. But just as we're wondering about 2019, 2021
00:01:55.960 is now a concern in terms of did the Chinese influence and interfere in the 2021 election?
00:02:04.060 Apparently they did. And I've got to applaud the work of my old friend Bob Fyfe, who was working at the Globe and Mail and at CTV, and Stephen Chase, who was also involved with this, as well as Global News.
00:02:21.780 Now, these are media outlets that I have been critical of in the past because I think they sometimes tend to coddle Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
00:02:30.300 They give him a pass.
00:02:33.020 They lob softball questions at him during news conferences.
00:02:38.900 But I'm just as quick to say, hey, great job on this story because we need to know.
00:02:43.540 And I just want to read a portion here from the Globe story.
00:02:51.780 China employed a sophisticated strategy to disrupt Canada's democracy in the 2021 federal election campaign as Chinese diplomats and their proxies backed the re-election of Justin Trudeau's Liberals, but only to another minority government, and worked to defeat conservative politicians considered to be unfriendly to Beijing.
00:03:18.380 The full extent of the Chinese interference operation is laid bare in both secret and top secret Canadian Security Intelligence Service documents that were viewed by the Globe and Mail.
00:03:32.360 So these documents are from CSIS. This is our intelligence gathering service. And unlike the United States that has 13 intelligence gathering services, we only have one plus what is gathered by D&D. So we have really two in this country, but we do not have 13.
00:03:52.340 so what ceases comes up with in terms of intelligence is very important and we need to know
00:03:58.740 exactly what went on why did the chinese government only want a minority government
00:04:06.820 i mean what what is up with that but before we get into that i want you to watch a brief clip
00:04:13.540 from bob fife where he talks about what this information means the government has not been
00:04:19.780 telling canadians the truth you know the best way to deal with these kind of info interference and
00:04:26.580 influence activity is to shine a light on it so that canadians are aware of what is going on
00:04:32.660 and can prepare to deal with it
00:04:37.460 no i i didn't think i'd ever hear that from uh the globe and mail and at least at least i haven't
00:04:45.620 been hearing that from the global mail but i tell you what does that say the government's not telling
00:04:51.540 us the truth justin truly well aware of these of this of this chinese interference he was he was
00:04:58.020 briefed on the 2019 and god no ceasus would have told him about the 2021 interference
00:05:04.260 now is he shocked he acknowledges yes he's acknowledged that there is some degree of
00:05:10.180 chinese interference but is he outraged over apparently not his reaction was quite interesting
00:05:19.060 because when he at the news conference following the revelation that china had interfered that
00:05:25.060 had basically bought an election they had bought the 2021 election a minority government for
00:05:32.500 justin trudeau what did trudeau say he said let's hope ceases hunts down these whistleblowers or
00:05:39.460 whistleblower. Just watch this. 0.99
00:06:09.460 take
00:06:10.880 the issue
00:06:13.600 very seriously
00:06:14.820 well there you go
00:06:17.740 he's more
00:06:19.720 concerned that CESIS
00:06:21.460 told the Globe and Mail
00:06:23.940 about this, that the information
00:06:25.880 is out there, he's not concerned that China
00:06:27.880 is interfering so much as he is
00:06:29.580 that somebody told on him
00:06:31.420 somebody told on China
00:06:33.120 and obviously
00:06:35.480 this involved Justin Trudeau
00:06:37.840 Justin Trudeau has not been telling us the truth. He never tells us the truth. He never tells the
00:06:43.280 whole truth, and sometimes never tells any of the truth. And this is absolutely outrageous,
00:06:48.640 and I call for his resignation again over China. I've done that in the past,
00:06:54.320 but clearly there is a problem between Justin Trudeau and China.
00:06:58.000 Why did Justin Trudeau refuse to call the extermination of the Uyghur population
00:07:04.240 in China a genocide. He was asked that at the last G20 summit meeting in Bali,
00:07:10.800 and he refused to use that word genocide. He got into an argument, if you will,
00:07:17.440 but it was more of a tongue lashing from Chinese dictator Xi Jinping, because Xi was very upset
00:07:26.800 that Trudeau was releasing information about talks that he had had with China,
00:07:31.120 So he gave him a thorough tongue lashing, told him to stop doing it, obviously, and Trudeau
00:07:38.080 said nothing. He took it, like the subservient politician he is to China, and he ran to the
00:07:45.840 men's room after the conversation, or the dialogue, but actually it was the dressing down occurred.
00:07:55.980 Now, why would he react that way unless there's something that China knows about Trudeau and there's something Trudeau knows about China?
00:08:03.580 When did Trudeau know this information?
00:08:07.140 How much did he know about it?
00:08:09.240 I would suggest he knew an awful lot as prime minister, who's getting briefings from CSIS all the time.
00:08:14.840 But it goes back, doesn't it, to Trudeau's assertion, ludicrous assertion.
00:08:22.060 Well, he was still an MP from Papineau, and he was at a liberal fundraiser in Montreal, arranged by liberal women.
00:08:33.140 And they asked him, what country in the world do you most admire?
00:08:35.960 And Trudeau said, China.
00:08:38.260 Trudeau said, I most admire China.
00:08:42.560 And when he was asked why, he said, because they can turn their economy around on a dime.
00:08:48.300 meaning they're a dictatorship that can force things to happen very quickly.
00:08:54.080 They don't have to go through the democratic process
00:08:56.620 like we do in Canada, the United States, and European countries.
00:09:02.600 Well, apparently China can also turn an election around on a dime.
00:09:08.280 And many dimes were part of that process.
00:09:12.100 China clearly bought an election in this country.
00:09:15.760 That's unacceptable.
00:09:16.820 And this has got to be the final nail in the Justin Trudeau coffin.
00:09:22.360 How much more can we put up with this corrupt government?
00:09:27.240 It's time to say enough is enough, and the Trudeau must go.
00:09:32.240 I don't say that rhetorically. I say that in all insistence.
00:09:36.840 It is time for him to go, because this is unacceptable, and we need to know more about what China has done, 0.95
00:09:44.900 and it obviously is continuing to do in our democracy and why did they just want a minority
00:09:51.380 government why did they service up a minority government obviously they like trudeau to be
00:09:58.340 powerful but not all powerful they like him to have some kind of controls put on him
00:10:05.940 often are they putting controls on him i'd like to know that we need to know more about this
00:10:10.900 and trudeau of course is running from this story as fast as he can now why do you think and that
00:10:17.460 takes us to the next story why do you think the emergencies act inquiry report was released on
00:10:24.740 friday february 17th and not monday february 20th like we all expected it to be big mystery
00:10:35.220 i think because the chinese story came out in the globe and mail on february 17th
00:10:43.220 and trudeau was hoping to distract our attention because the inquiry report from the public
00:10:52.180 order emergency commission was very favorable to justin trudeau i was a little surprised it wasn't
00:11:00.180 some criticism of Justin Trudeau in this report, but it was all complete exoneration of this man's
00:11:11.780 activities, decisions, and it said it was perfectly correct, perfectly correct.
00:11:18.420 And Justice Paul Rouleau concluded, he says, I have concluded that in this case,
00:11:24.020 the very high threshold for caution was met i have done so with reluctance
00:11:33.700 why was there any reluctance now you don't say i firmly believe this man is innocent but i say so
00:11:39.860 reluctantly unless there's information out there you're not telling us or you're considering
00:11:47.620 information in your judgment that you're not including in your summation and and clearly the
00:11:55.140 judge rulo did not tell us everything if he had reluctance about giving just and true a pass
00:12:02.340 and exonerating him in all things and the uh the funny thing is i keep hearing about
00:12:11.220 how the Emergencies Act invocation was necessary
00:12:15.520 even though the border protests had stopped
00:12:18.940 because they could have started again.
00:12:21.300 Well, that's like arresting somebody
00:12:23.820 in anticipation of what they might do
00:12:27.620 tomorrow or next week.
00:12:30.140 And that's not how the legal system should work.
00:12:33.680 If the convoy at Cootes, Alberta
00:12:36.780 and at the Windsor border decided
00:12:40.620 it was time to stand down well then they stood down and there was no need to use the police
00:12:47.860 against them and of course the police were not used against them as part of the emergencies act
00:12:52.820 they meant when the emergencies act was invoked it only focused on audible on wellington street
00:12:58.760 where all of these truckers had their trucks parked and protesters were standing around in
00:13:03.860 the bitter February cold. I was there every day getting frostbite on these fingers. And they were
00:13:11.400 there every day. But that's where the focus was, not on any border crossings. There was no hint
00:13:19.940 of insurrection or improper behavior or any sort of behavior that would have suggested
00:13:31.020 it was there was going to be violence or an act against the government these people had no
00:13:38.080 attention of trying to take over the government that is a just a ridiculous lie that has come out
00:13:43.460 of the haters who just couldn't stand the fact the freedom convoy stood up to COVID-19 mandates
00:13:50.720 they couldn't stand that so what is the legacy of this report and we'll get shortly to what
00:13:57.980 my favorite lawyer
00:13:59.720 Eva Chepiak has to say about it
00:14:02.380 but what is the legacy then?
00:14:04.120 First of all, it's okay for the government to
00:14:06.100 freeze your bank accounts
00:14:07.560 if
00:14:09.340 you're involved in a protest that they don't like
00:14:12.300 and if you donate
00:14:14.040 even if you donate your
00:14:16.140 money to a protest that they don't
00:14:18.340 like, because that's unacceptable
00:14:20.160 I
00:14:22.120 remember the justice minister at the time saying
00:14:24.360 that Canadians shouldn't be donating to
00:14:26.100 Trump style politics
00:14:28.580 Who the hell is he to say that we can't be donating to Trump-style politics
00:14:34.500 or any kind of democratic action?
00:14:37.920 He cannot make that call.
00:14:42.340 But the point is, Justin Trudeau got away with this.
00:14:47.980 So it's okay to freeze your bank accounts.
00:14:50.260 And believe me, they'll do it again.
00:14:52.740 If they got away with it this time, over the Freedom Convoy,
00:14:57.160 They'll do it again over a protest that they don't like and they don't want you to see.
00:15:02.940 And I think that's important to remember.
00:15:04.340 That's one of the legacies of this report.
00:15:07.400 But thankfully, Freedom Convoy lawyer Abba Chepiak, who I interviewed this week, in response to this report, she said this is not the final word.
00:15:17.660 The judicial review is going to examine Judge Rulo's decision on this to see if it is, in fact, correct.
00:15:26.300 to see if it is, in fact, appropriate.
00:15:28.780 So this is not the end of this process.
00:15:30.660 Once again, we were told, that was the end.
00:15:32.300 No, it's not.
00:15:33.700 It's not the end.
00:15:34.800 There's going to be a judicial review of this in April.
00:15:36.740 I'm glad Eva brought that up.
00:15:39.520 And, of course, her reaction to this was, I thought, quite categorical.
00:15:45.960 She was very incensed that Judge Rullo apparently ignored a lot of what went on during the Freedom Convoy.
00:15:55.740 and simply decided to exonerate Justin Trudeau.
00:16:00.200 And I liked what Eva Chepiak said.
00:16:05.400 She said she was still fighting.
00:16:09.000 And she said the report itself was a small battle.
00:16:14.240 And there was a large war, she said, ahead in terms of maintaining freedom in this country,
00:16:20.040 maintaining the ability of people to protest peacefully without being thrown in jail,
00:16:25.140 having their bank accounts frozen, and having the Draconian Emergencies Act
00:16:30.860 brought down on their head, literally brought down on their heads
00:16:34.140 with police using batons on their heads.
00:16:37.440 And that's what happened. I was there.
00:16:39.300 So don't tell me it didn't happen.
00:16:41.200 I was there. I saw it.
00:16:43.140 Journalists were injured.
00:16:44.800 And old people were pushed out of the way.
00:16:49.720 A Métis woman was trampled by a horse,
00:16:52.320 and she was using a walker to get around. 0.99
00:16:55.140 i mean that is unacceptable behavior and if that's the way this government deals with people they
00:17:00.820 don't agree with that's unacceptable and that's got stuff but as eva mentioned to me none of this
00:17:06.980 is carbon stone none of this is carbon stone it can be changed and she also wants a 400 million
00:17:12.820 dollar class action suit against the freedom convoy protest dismissed and she's right and
00:17:18.900 And she's quite right about that.
00:17:20.600 But, you know, she also mentioned that the response to Rouleau's report was not what Trudeau anticipated.
00:17:31.080 It was not a massive applause of, thank God this man recognizes the right for good order and good government, which that did not represent, by the way, represent an overreach of government.
00:17:45.040 But as Ebbett pointed out, media here in Canada, in the United States, and in Europe,
00:17:50.840 criticized the decision because they said there was no threshold.
00:17:55.660 There was no reason to invoke the Emergencies Act.
00:17:59.020 And I find it interesting that once again, the Globe and Mail,
00:18:02.280 which has been siding with the Liberal government in the past on many issues,
00:18:08.000 the Globe and Mail editorialized on Monday,
00:18:10.160 We disagree, for instance, with Rouleau's conclusion that the invocation was justified.
00:18:17.600 Huge editorial decision.
00:18:21.420 Very, very important.
00:18:23.180 And that means the mainstream media is backing away from Trudeau.
00:18:28.820 Just as it is in the United States from Biden.
00:18:31.840 But there's a clear break right now over China and over the Emergencies Act invocation.
00:18:40.160 Clearly, a lot of the mainstream media are thinking twice about what Trudeau has done and what he continues to do as a prime minister.
00:18:48.620 And I think this is very bad news for Justin Trudeau.
00:18:52.120 And as I've said earlier, he wanted this to be a victory lap, and it's not.
00:18:57.780 China came down.
00:18:59.340 The Emergencies Act came down, but it didn't get the media response he anticipated.
00:19:06.840 And forget about those UFOs.
00:19:10.160 turned out to be american weather balloons that's another cipher that didn't work for
00:19:15.760 justin trudeau's re-election and he is going to be pushing hard on health care i can tell you that
00:19:20.640 and i have as i mentioned in the past now quickly now i want to go into my my last call which was
00:19:27.680 yesterday's where we talked about roxham road the notorious infamous roxham road that goes
00:19:35.840 from new york to quebec and it's where illegal immigrants have been crossing for about six years
00:19:42.880 now why six years because you may recall in 2017 yes yes yes on january 28th justin trudeau put out
00:19:53.840 a tweet that said to those fleeing persecution terror and war canadians will welcome you
00:19:58.480 regardless of your faith diversity is our strength that's his mantra yes so what happened people took
00:20:05.040 him at his word forget about the immigration process we'll just come to canada so they found
00:20:09.520 ways to come to canada one of them was rocks and rope it's basically just a passageway where there
00:20:16.480 is no it's not it's an unofficial border crossing now the rcmp are stationed out there but they just
00:20:21.520 let people go by they just process them and move them on and of course by 2018 2019 we had a huge
00:20:29.280 border crisis at that time we had to establish 10 cities then we put tens of thousands of people up
00:20:34.960 in hostels and three-star hotels anywhere we could possibly put them because we had so many now it's
00:20:40.800 happening again and it's intertwined with the disaster at the american southern border where
00:20:47.280 they have led in 1.2 million illegals since the election of joe since the inauguration of joe
00:20:53.760 biden president joe biden so and now there's a legal streaming into the united states via canada
00:21:02.400 so what they're doing is they're coming into canada and going through the northern border
00:21:07.120 so they've got it coming from both ways the america has no border anymore certainly the
00:21:13.440 southern border has been dissolved and canada is in danger of losing its southern border
00:21:18.720 with the united states since it continues because we need legal immigration not illegal immigration
00:21:26.720 that continues day after day after day joe biden and justin trudeau are so concerned about about
00:21:34.160 ukraine and it's its sovereignty and that its borders not be violated but they apparently have
00:21:41.520 little concern about their own country's borders being violated and that's where their concerns
00:21:47.520 should be they don't they don't mind inviting a nuclear confrontation with russia by arming
00:21:55.040 ukraine and by focusing on that as the major issue but domestically they're losing it so i want to
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