Western Standard - One Big Beautiful Oil Show

00:00:00.000 Good day, today is June 11th, 2024.

00:00:30.000 I am Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline, coming to you from the floor of the Global Energy Show right here in Calgary, Alberta.

00:00:41.440 A special episode, we've been here all yesterday, we're going to be here all today, and tomorrow from one of the most important events on the global calendar for the energy industry.

00:00:52.880 We had Corey Morgan Show here live today. Speaking of what, I guess we'll introduce Corey first today, Senior Alberta Columnist.

00:00:59.140 A pleasure to be here. I mean, this is a historic type of show. It's quite something to take part in.

00:01:03.160 It is. And we've got Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:01:07.760 Lots of opinions down here. More than 600 booths, 700, I think. An incredible show. Second biggest in the world.

00:01:14.520 One big, beautiful oil show. To rule them all.

00:01:18.200 Absolutely. One big, beautiful oil show.

00:01:20.600 Right.

00:01:20.920 Yeah. Well, we'll be talking about how you can resist deportations of illegal migrants by burning down your city. 0.90

00:01:30.700 We're going to take some great lessons from California.

00:01:33.500 We're going to talk about the upcoming G7 Leaders Conference coming up not very far from where we're sitting right now in Kananaskis, Alberta, just west of Calgary.

00:01:44.800 That's coming up in just a few days, I think, right?

00:01:48.040 Starts on Sunday.

00:01:49.000 Starts on Sunday.

00:01:50.900 Be sure to catch our live coverage as we're keeping a rolling block.

00:01:54.240 Indeed. We're going to talk about what we expect there.

00:01:56.260 Some interesting guests on the dinner invitations. We'll be talking about that.

00:02:02.160 But before we get to that, oh, we're going to talk about one big, beautiful apology or retraction from Elon Musk trying to heal the feud between the two titans of American politics today.

00:02:17.040 But before we get to that, we're going to start with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith's speech to the Global Energy Show or Global Energy Exhibition.

00:02:27.200 Is that the official name?

00:02:28.560 Show.

00:02:28.920 Show? Global Energy Show.

00:02:30.220 Yes. Ah. There we go. Ah. Exhibition and conference. It says below that.

00:02:35.180 You're right.

00:02:35.760 All right. Mix it up. Mix it up.

00:02:38.820 We'll be talking about her speech.

00:02:42.760 She, Nigel, gave, made an address to everyone at the big plenary this morning.

00:02:49.400 Talk about that.

00:02:50.020 Yeah.

00:02:50.120 This was actually a tremendous show from Premier Smith.

00:02:54.840 What we've got to remember, Derek, Corey, is that those of us who live here and cover this stuff all the time find a lot of it familiar.

00:03:02.120 But if you are not from Calvary, if you're not from Alberta, if you're not even from Canada, you come in and quite frankly, having a presentation from Premier Smith is just an eye-opener.

00:03:16.760 She was on top with her figures. We heard all the figures before, but she was rolling them out.

00:03:22.600 There were eyeballs going, good Lord, Alberta, really? And I think most important was the interview that she did afterwards with Peter Mansbridge.

00:03:33.420 Peter Mansbridge, another grand old man of Canadian broadcasting, didn't always agree with everything he said and thought when he was in Business Club.

00:03:42.940 He did a really clever interview and it gave the Premier a chance to lay out her strategy for dealing with Mr. Carney without actually saying, this is my strategy.

00:03:57.400 She is giving him time. Time to show whether he is going to offer good faith to Alberta.

00:04:05.140 Time to see whether he can bring his whole party under control.

00:04:13.560 Like one of the things that, let me just, I made this note and Smith made the observation that although he has said some encouraging things,

00:04:23.240 he has got a group of MPs who were there in the last part of it and really liked the way things were going.

00:04:30.500 So he's got a huge leadership turnaround to do, but he has shown that he can be pragmatic and she uses evidence for that.

00:04:39.540 The fact that almost before he had tried out the Prime Minister's chair, he had signed away the carbon tax and she is hopeful that that kind of pragmatism will characterize his tenure as Prime Minister.

00:04:54.840 So, Corey, you know, it was nothing we hadn't heard before on that front, you know, hopeful, you know, Gilboa, sorry, yes, Freudian slip.

00:05:08.280 There's some pressing company over my shoulder we can't see right now.

00:05:12.360 The, you know, Carney's saying the right things, but we have to see action.

00:05:17.400 We don't really know what it means yet because there's two Carnies.

00:05:20.340 There's the Carney we saw who's elbows up during the election.

00:05:23.180 And then there's the Carney who wrote the book Values, which is implacably anti-pipe wine, anti-oil and gas, anti-resource development.

00:05:32.460 Was there anything there that she hasn't said before?

00:05:36.260 No, but as Nigel said, I mean, it's a brand new audience, though.

00:05:39.180 It's letting others who don't watch the typical international audience.

00:05:42.220 Yeah, absolutely.

00:05:43.500 And in this industry, I mean, you know, energy in general is very integrated and you don't necessarily read the newspapers of every other country you're involved in or jurisdiction.

00:05:51.640 And getting a leader to speak diplomatically on the challenges that really are happening with our, I guess you could say, national authority and whether or not we can get projects done here.

00:06:01.560 I think it was a very good opportunity and she's taken full advantage of that.

00:06:07.240 I think the feds perhaps might regret not having a larger presence here to speak on their behalf and perhaps what their agenda might be.

00:06:13.820 Well, let's before we get into the new pipeline and infrastructure bill, let's talk about that.

00:06:20.320 I noted that in some of the interviews I did with people on the floor of the show here yesterday that there is no major representative of the federal government here.

00:06:31.020 I'm sure they've sent some bureaucrats, some some firecratchers around to take notes, you know, and, you know, there's probably some people in the back rooms here, but no prime minister, no energy minister, no environment minister.

00:06:43.120 I think they'd be smart not to send the environment minister here.

00:06:45.760 I can't recall her name, but she's from Quebec and very many ways considered to be a protege of Stephen Gilbeau, who I can't, I can't, I can't, can't ruin my parting shot is mostly not here.

00:07:00.640 Stephen Gilbeau, actually, let's just say for those watching at home, we actually are perhaps expecting Stephen Gilbeau to come for an exclusive interview with the Western Center.

00:07:10.000 Maybe arriving by the end of the show, but the environment minister would not be a welcome person here that you'd have a very real risk, if not probability that that he would probably she would get booed here.

00:07:25.140 But Tim Hodgson, the new energy minister, I'm surprised not to see him here because he's got a resume that is not at odds with other folks here.

00:07:35.380 And he gave a speech at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce just a few weeks ago.

00:07:38.920 They went over pretty well.

00:07:40.220 Again, just speech, no actions yet.

00:07:42.220 But what he said went over very well.

00:07:43.560 And there was a lot of people who left that thinking.

00:07:45.660 I'm willing to hear more from them.

00:07:46.980 So why do you think he, and I think he could have been here, and I know he was invited, why do you think he was not here?

00:07:54.360 Well, I guess that they don't want to give the impression that they are too much in favor of the energy industry in Alberta.

00:08:01.060 Because you're right, this is the place where they could have and should have been.

00:08:06.000 There's one thing that a prime minister can do, even if he's not an expert in the field.

00:08:09.800 And I think Mr. Carney probably is well informed of this area, but, you know, he's not an old pipeline engineer, he's a banker.

00:08:16.040 And what the senior politicians can do is that they can create the atmosphere where business can be done.

00:08:24.440 They give confidence by their very presidents that what we're talking about is, you know, one second down there,

00:08:29.620 when everybody flies home and picks up the phone the next day, it isn't going to be all as if it never happened.

00:08:35.500 It would have been a huge take if he had come.

00:08:39.180 He wrote about this last week.

00:08:41.240 But anyway, I guess he didn't read it.

00:08:43.680 Well, none of the senior politicians are here.

00:08:48.240 Well, that's fine.

00:08:48.820 They're having a bit of shows to get in.

00:08:50.120 I hope the people that I've talked to are very satisfied with the way they think you're blowing.

00:08:53.640 They certainly enjoy the warfare.

00:08:55.960 Enjoy is the wrong word.

00:08:57.480 They appreciate what the premier had to say.

00:09:01.880 That was a confidence, which is what senior politicians do at things like this.

00:09:07.760 It's just a pity the prime minister wasn't here to do it.

00:09:09.960 Well, or even an energy minister, I mean, it really says a lot.

00:09:13.240 As we were talking about earlier, this is one of the biggest energy shows on the planet.

00:09:17.940 If you can't have your federal energy minister attending a show this significant and big,

00:09:23.080 it tells, it signals to the people here, to the producers, that they don't take it seriously,

00:09:27.640 that they don't see it as a priority.

00:09:29.160 And I think some people in the afterwards are going to read into this, perhaps,

00:09:35.200 that we're starting to question how serious Mr. Carney is about getting infrastructure developed across this country.

00:09:41.580 Yeah, well, I mean, it would have been a great thing if Mr. Carney had actually come out here

00:09:45.460 and just stayed the weekend in Calgary and blow them right on out to Kalanaskis for the G7.

00:09:50.540 Look at all the carbon dioxide emissions they'd have saved.

00:09:52.920 Well, G7 starts Sunday, but there's actually, I think, there's some foreign dignitaries that Carney's meeting with even before then.

00:10:01.620 Like, the guy is in town any day now.

00:10:05.280 And even if he was not here, his energy minister, I mean, can you imagine the fisheries minister,

00:10:11.980 whoever the hell that is, missing, I don't know, the global fish show in Newfoundland?

00:10:17.700 That is an equivalent, though. I mean, it really is a parallel.

00:10:21.420 If, as an energy minister, you can't find the time to come out to the biggest energy show in Canada,

00:10:26.760 what the heck are you doing?

00:10:29.220 Sending a signal.

00:10:30.340 But I don't like the signal they're receiving.

00:10:32.580 Mixed signals.

00:10:33.660 I mean, the energy minister was out here a few weeks ago, to his credit, said more or less the right thing.

00:10:38.900 It's not all perfect, but, you know, a marked turnaround for the rhetoric and direction of the government.

00:10:44.240 And that's where it starts to feel like, though, that they're paying lip service for it.

00:10:47.140 Yes. You want to admit, the optics of the federal energy minister when the premier of Alberta would have been first class.

00:10:54.440 That would have been a confidence builder for the industry.

00:10:58.600 In the absence of that, what are we supposed to conclude?

00:11:01.720 That there isn't that kind of confidence to be built?

00:11:05.620 Mr. Carney keeps the doors open on pipelines.

00:11:08.720 He says that, you know, subjects of certain conditions, that's what we have to do.

00:11:14.300 These are nation-building projects.

00:11:15.780 But when it actually comes to sending the signals, the big-picture symbols, it's not there.

00:11:25.060 Well, I think that's a good way to move to the new, I forget the exact name of it, but the National Infrastructure of Priority Bill that the liberals have just introduced.

00:11:35.700 Kearney had just met with the premiers and says, you know, give me your list of big projects ready to go, shovel-ready projects.

00:11:43.680 You know, the politicians love the term shovel-ready.

00:11:46.160 Well, actually, the problem is the big things we need are no longer shovel-ready because no one's bothered applying to build a new pipeline in Canada across provincial boundaries or international boundaries.

00:11:55.380 Ever since, the No War Pipelines Act or the Impact Assessment Act, whatever you're calling it, has been passed.

00:12:00.580 They got the message, you know, why would you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on an approvals process that you know is going to lead to nowhere.

00:12:08.940 It's just going to get you nothing but grief and bad press.

00:12:11.100 So none of those things are shovel-ready.

00:12:12.660 But the bill itself is interesting.

00:12:15.320 You know, parts of it say, yeah, the federal government can identify this infrastructure, these infrastructure projects like pipelines, highways, major economic infrastructure pieces.

00:12:29.180 But it also seems to imply that provinces have a veto at the same time.

00:12:35.680 Corey?

00:12:36.160 Yeah, well, and the provinces don't.

00:12:38.680 I mean, it's been called out by some.

00:12:40.480 They don't constitutionally, but the bill would give them one legislatively.

00:12:43.820 Yes, which would cripple it.

00:12:46.380 And anybody with political reality in them knows that's just a way then to shut it down.

00:12:50.520 It's a way to put it in somebody else's lap and let them shut it down, throw his hands up and say, well, I tried.

00:12:56.060 He doesn't want to get it done.

00:12:57.320 That's the only signaling I see out of this.

00:12:58.960 So some of the stuff we're hearing from them, too, is saying, well, we haven't heard from private industry saying that they're interested in picking it up either.

00:13:05.080 Well, if you weren't even willing to come into the room where private industry is gathered, it sounds to me like you don't want to hear from private industry.

00:13:11.140 And you don't want to hear them say, what would you like to get done?

00:13:14.120 What would you like to see?

00:13:15.240 I don't like the signaling we're getting from them.

00:13:17.740 I feel they're playing lip service to this, but he has no intention of letting anything get done.

00:13:22.300 Well, that's one of the things that Premier Smith was consistent on this morning.

00:13:27.340 She said it about three times that she actually was working with a protagonist.

00:13:33.000 She used the word protagonist.

00:13:35.020 But what she's talking about is an investor willing to build a pipeline across northern B.C. out to Prince Rupert to ship gas overseas.

00:13:44.340 Now, obviously, she couldn't identify that individual or that company at this stage.

00:13:51.180 But this is a response to Premier David Eby of B.C. saying last week, well, you know, why are you inside?

00:13:58.020 You don't even have a pipeline.

00:13:59.600 Well, maybe we do, is what she said.

00:14:02.380 And she emphasized that a number of times this morning.

00:14:05.300 So, again, it would have been a fruitful thing to have some kind of representation from the federal government on this floor here.

00:14:19.600 Nigel, before we started rolling here, you were saying that she was trying to appear to be the reasonable person, trying to give him a chance.

00:14:30.500 Did you get the impression that she expects him to disappoint, that she expects him to fail?

00:14:36.600 No.

00:14:37.100 Without saying so directly.

00:14:38.140 No.

00:14:38.560 Well, she certainly didn't say that.

00:14:41.000 I mean, I think that her public presentation is that they're going to work together and that good things are going to happen. 0.95

00:14:48.680 I mean, she would be very foolish if she gave the impression that good things were going to happen. 0.85

00:14:54.900 It was a certainty. 0.97

00:14:55.720 We just had to wait the six months.

00:14:57.420 Mr. Carney would fly out here or she would go out there or they'd meet in Winnipeg, you know.

00:15:02.800 And then there would be a lovely announcement that they're going to make everybody.

00:15:05.760 That would be just to raise expectations that may not be met.

00:15:08.940 But she certainly, I know there's a lot of people in Alberta who would just like her to be feisty and walk around with her fist. 1.00

00:15:18.260 Well, I guess the elbows, the fist's up anyway.

00:15:20.500 And say the things that people would just love to say if they could find themselves standing beside Mr. Carney.

00:15:27.560 But, you know, that's not necessarily the way to do it.

00:15:31.880 That's not going to help making the Prime Minister of Canada not only against you on policy, but also personally just finding you offensive.

00:15:42.460 You might recall that Mr. Trudeau made himself personally offensive to Donald Trump.

00:15:48.380 That did not help.

00:15:49.880 Mr. Carney does not agree with Mr. Trump, but he gets along better with him than his predecessor did.

00:15:55.840 And there are certain evidences for that.

00:15:57.320 I think what the Premier is trying to do is say, look, we're ready to work with you.

00:16:02.560 We understand what your priorities are.

00:16:05.020 But here are ours, and let's see if we can't make some money.

00:16:08.460 Well, I'd love to do.

00:16:09.600 All right.

00:16:10.320 Reasonable person.

00:16:11.980 Well, speaking of Trump, let's change gears.

00:16:15.380 We're going to have a bit more American discussion than we normally do on the pipeline today.

00:16:19.200 I try to avoid too much American stuff because you can listen to, you know, commentary on American news on American sources.

00:16:25.340 They tend to know more than we do, but some of this stuff is just the ramifications are so big for us, you know, both for north of the border and just for the kind of broader Anglo-sphere conservative world.

00:16:38.420 And, you know, the nuclear bomb on that was the fallout between, that's a good pun, was the fallout between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, arguably the two most powerful men in the world.

00:16:52.100 And the richest man and the man, the man who controls the internet, as someone put it the other day, the man who controls the nukes, the man who controls the internet.

00:17:02.920 Some kind of falling out with them coming from the one big beautiful bill.

00:17:07.520 From what we can tell, Musk thought it was just far too timid in its spending cuts, wanted to go much further.

00:17:14.800 And if that's the case, I think Musk is right.

00:17:17.460 But you can cut a trillion dollars off the deficit, it's still just a scratch of the surface of the fiscal mess the United States is in right now.

00:17:27.660 But this culminated in a tweet from Elon Musk where he said,

00:17:31.060 And the real reason that the Trump administration won't release the Epstein files from Jeffrey Epstein is because Trump is in them.

00:17:41.360 Now, what does that mean?

00:17:43.180 I'd be surprised if he's not mentioned somewhere.

00:17:45.780 Epstein, Glenn Maxwell, they hobnob with all the most rich and powerful people on the planet, pretty much.

00:17:52.340 Which in, I think, what we know pretty well at this point to be a leveraged scheme, possibly involving foreign intelligence services, that kind of thing.

00:18:03.200 We really have only begun to scratch the surface of that.

00:18:07.380 But does that mean everybody mentioned that they have ever met with in their life is implicated and has done wrong?

00:18:14.500 No.

00:18:15.260 Mark Carney himself has appeared in at least a few legitimate photos with Glenn Maxwell.

00:18:21.260 Some of which are fake, some of which are real.

00:18:24.780 Hard to tell which ones sometimes.

00:18:26.740 But it was a hell of a shot.

00:18:29.260 Because if there is anything, there's not a lot I think that could get Donald Trump's face to turn on him.

00:18:33.620 But if he was implicated in the real bad stuff with Epstein, I think that would be about the only thing that could.

00:18:39.520 If even that.

00:18:40.820 But then, reconciliation today, Nigel.

00:18:43.340 Well, then, Musk walked that back anyway.

00:18:45.840 Well, today?

00:18:47.260 No, I think.

00:18:48.280 Well, it was yesterday or the day before.

00:18:49.740 The specific allegation that Trump was in the Epstein files.

00:18:54.140 He pulled that back a couple of days ago.

00:18:55.900 He said, oh, no, maybe it was a bit wrong on that.

00:18:57.880 Well, let's see.

00:18:58.400 He said he posted just today.

00:19:02.060 Or middle of the night last night, I guess.

00:19:04.600 I regret some of the posts about President Donald Trump last week.

00:19:08.180 They went too far.

00:19:09.140 Or, yeah, I mean, walking the back.

00:19:14.580 Yeah.

00:19:15.140 But the thing is, you know, like that's a kind of a mature, what people do is they fall out.

00:19:21.300 They have an argument.

00:19:22.180 You've got two bulls in one corral. 0.99

00:19:24.860 And they're going to fight eventually.

00:19:28.320 I actually was surprised that it lasted as long as it did without open criticism of each other.

00:19:36.860 But both of them, I do believe, have got an interest in doing something other than fight with each other.

00:19:42.460 They want to do something for America.

00:19:44.300 People may or may not agree with what that something is, but I don't think there's any doubt that that's what their motivations are.

00:19:52.920 So in the end, somebody must have said, look, you've got to say sorry.

00:19:55.840 You've got to accept the apology, sir.

00:19:57.800 You know, all right, all right.

00:19:59.160 Just don't call me.

00:20:00.460 And it's done.

00:20:01.440 That's actually a good thing.

00:20:02.840 But your point about people being implicated by just by being on the same sidewalk as somebody else.

00:20:09.720 I mean, I had coffee in Ontario once with an NDP member of parliament.

00:20:15.340 I mean, is that going to come back to Ontario?

00:20:17.040 If your name appears on the flight manifest going to the island, okay, you know what?

00:20:20.680 You've got some explaining to do at that point.

00:20:22.640 You're not 100% guilty, guaranteed, but you're probably guilty.

00:20:26.440 If Trump's name were to be on the flight manifest going to Pito Island, I mean, that is something.

00:20:31.620 But if it just shows up, it's not to bring up a non-pleasant reference, but, I mean, there's photographic evidence passing around the internet,

00:20:40.100 which tries to associate Mark Carney with Epstein.

00:20:44.300 I was just saying that, yeah.

00:20:45.300 Yeah, so it's, some of this stuff is just not fair.

00:20:49.660 Um, Corey, yeah, they had to patch something over, but I'm, and some people say it was inevitable that they can follow up.

00:20:59.440 I mean, they've got these two larger-than-life personalities, uh, that they were inevitably going to fall out.

00:21:06.400 I could see the argument for it.

00:21:08.020 But, but also, but did the fallout have to be this public and, uh, and, and nuclear, like, uh, both men have a lot at stake here.

00:21:18.160 Um, I think, uh, you know, proceeding, I, I think it should be noted, uh, maybe we need to update our story on this.

00:21:24.540 Uh, if Chris Oldborn's watching, update it.

00:21:27.300 Um, this was preceded, though, by yesterday, J.D. Vance tweeting that, uh, you know, during the time that Elon was leading Doge, um, you know, he took a 25% hit to his net value because, well, who are the people who like to buy Teslas?

00:21:42.780 Not people who drive gas-guzzling trucks, gun-toting Republicans.

00:21:46.740 It's Democrats, people in California who like to buy Teslas to save the environment.

00:21:52.480 Um, so, you know, Tesla has taken an absolute, it's just been massacred in the stocks and in sales since, uh, really since his affiliation to begin with, with Trump, but especially since Doge.

00:22:03.480 Um, so I think there was kind of, that was the opening there, uh, J.D. Vance said that, and he says, like, we should thank Elon for his service.

00:22:11.100 Like, he made a, a huge, like, a gargantuan personal financial sacrifice to do this, thank him.

00:22:16.200 So it was, it was, Trump was never going to fire the first apology.

00:22:20.840 I mean, that just seems beyond his personal capabilities, I think.

00:22:25.160 Uh, but yeah, this does seem to be kind of constructed that people on both sides are, I don't know.

00:22:29.980 Uh, but is it also kind of a split or internal, uh, tension between the, uh, national conservatives, the populists in the party, and the so-called tech pros, these kind of two of the big dominant wings of the Trump coalition?

00:22:45.720 Well, I mean, I think part of this, I'm glad you mentioned, like, what, what Musk lost in politicizing himself and getting into that.

00:22:52.480 I mean, we're talking, you know, an unimaginable billions of dollars.

00:22:55.780 He must have known going in that this is going to cost, it's not like he's going to worry, you know, he's going to be impoverished.

00:23:02.080 I mean, when you, when you, now you're down a hundred billion, but you still have hundreds of billions, it's not really measurable in your lifestyle.

00:23:07.360 But he knew he was taking that on and joining with President Trump, which tells me he did it for ideological reasons.

00:23:12.040 He wanted to accomplish something.

00:23:14.500 And the doge was it.

00:23:15.860 He wanted smaller government.

00:23:17.840 He wanted to be able to say, I made my mark on the country by helping trim things down.

00:23:21.800 And he went through that, did that sacrifice.

00:23:24.740 And then this bill does come out to show that at best, they were just putting a thin coat of paint on things.

00:23:30.360 The spending is still out of control.

00:23:31.940 There's still no realistic efforts to make a change.

00:23:34.880 I think that's part of what got to him.

00:23:36.400 Boy, I was the one standing with the chainsaw.

00:23:38.040 I was the one who actually chainsawed my own company down by a quarter.

00:23:41.620 And I don't see any significant difference to the government path going forward.

00:23:46.320 And as you mentioned, it's a sign of the modern way of communication, right?

00:23:49.840 You know, 30 years ago, this wouldn't have happened because at most you're going to leak to a reporter.

00:23:54.260 But you can tweet it now.

00:23:55.240 You can true social it now.

00:23:56.860 And it can really escalate quickly, publicly, when it would have been behind closed doors before.

00:24:01.240 It's kind of ironic.

00:24:02.040 You know, he lost more on his company than he saved the government of the United States.

00:24:05.960 Yeah.

00:24:06.280 You know, I mean.

00:24:06.900 And I'm sure he was sleeping at night.

00:24:08.420 Oh, that.

00:24:09.260 Jeez, man.

00:24:09.960 You know, why did I do this?

00:24:11.520 I think it's part of it.

00:24:12.700 But again, I mean, he's kind of walked it back because the temper's cooled a little on these things.

00:24:17.440 But in today's world, get that two pieces out of the tube.

00:24:20.760 As you said, these tweets come out in the middle of the night.

00:24:22.880 These are things that are impulsive from both Trump or Musk.

00:24:26.900 And now it's, you know, it's just a whole new dynamic.

00:24:30.140 Well, I've got to wonder, too, if we're going to take a less charitable view, is Musk angry that Trump is ending the EV mandates, electric vehicle mandates?

00:24:39.520 Like, not many people actually want to drive those things.

00:24:43.960 I mean, there'll be more in the States than in Canada because they've got warmer climates where EVs are less of a terrible idea.

00:24:51.300 It's still a generally terrible idea unless you really only drive around the downtown core of a big city.

00:24:55.560 But EV mandates have been what is propping up EV sales because most people don't want to buy the things.

00:25:02.500 It's Biden saying, you know, they want to phase up, you know, California and then the Biden administration said they want to mandate electric vehicles by a certain date. 0.96

00:25:11.480 Canada, on paper, at least still has the damn things. 0.85

00:25:15.540 If I'm being less charitable, I might say that Musk was thinking, well, that's going to kill Tesla. 0.99

00:25:21.240 Look at all the sacrifices I'm making.

00:25:22.700 Tesla stocks do.

00:25:23.660 It's in a crapper for me leading Goj here. 1.00

00:25:27.040 It can't kill the EV mandates on me.

00:25:28.800 Well, you may, I've read that theory and, you know, it may be so, but if you're interested in an electric car at all, a Tesla would be the one you would want.

00:25:40.220 And the thing would be, if you can afford those kind of prices, then probably the government rebate.

00:25:49.560 It's the mandates that they're going to ban the internal combustible engine for vehicles by 2030 or 2030 something and require that everything be an EV.

00:26:00.320 I mean, that would put Tesla in a very good spot.

00:26:03.580 Well, so I don't pretend to be, you know, the Musk whisperer.

00:26:10.400 He may have different ideas.

00:26:11.820 But everything else that I've seen about him is that he's a freedom lover.

00:26:15.940 And I can't see him at a feather peak over the mandate being.

00:26:22.780 He would probably just say, listen, we'll just make the car that you can't resist buying.

00:26:27.100 And as a matter of fact, that crazy truck that they have, the one that looks like an axe, 0 to 60 in 2.1 seconds.

00:26:40.000 That's, if you're going to have a truck, that's the truck to have.

00:26:42.820 So I think they're going to sell it.

00:26:44.260 Unless you want to drive it for a long distance through the cold Alberta winter to an oil rig.

00:26:48.820 It's not going to look so good there.

00:26:49.880 Well, then, that probably you do want a good old F-150.

00:26:55.000 But, look, I'm not here to sell it to the trucks.

00:26:58.100 I'm just saying that people who want them will want them, whether there's a mandate or not.

00:27:02.460 Yeah.

00:27:03.220 Yes.

00:27:04.060 So I don't think that's what's making every man.

00:27:06.520 But a mandate would require people to, even those who don't.

00:27:09.140 Now, my plan, if Canada doesn't get rid of its EV mandates by the time that time comes,

00:27:15.820 and Alberta isn't its own country by then, I'm just going to have to do like a Cuban. 1.00

00:27:20.120 And I'm going to fix my F-150, and I'm going to drive it for 50 years until I'm dead. 0.77

00:27:24.040 I'll die before the truck.

00:27:26.180 But, I mean, it...

00:27:28.040 Well, maybe if you go to Chev.

00:27:30.460 You're my phone.

00:27:31.860 That was a shot.

00:27:33.540 Shots fired.

00:27:34.940 It's getting down the rabbit hole.

00:27:36.340 But these mandates are doomed to failure.

00:27:38.440 I mean, the numbers aren't there, from the electrical capacity to the manufacturing capacity.

00:27:44.260 I mean, they're falling apart. 1.00

00:27:45.160 Canada's the only idiotic boy scout that's still hanging on to these bloody things. 1.00

00:27:49.320 Ontario taxpayers should be thanking Doug Ford and Trudeau and Carney for sinking. 1.00

00:27:54.540 How many tens of billions of dollars into Ontario's EV...

00:27:57.920 46 billion in the battery factories.

00:28:00.480 Over four of them.

00:28:01.680 It's an astonishing amount of money.

00:28:03.140 And they all appear to be worth zero today.

00:28:06.580 Zero.

00:28:07.080 The time might come that these evolve.

00:28:08.940 If you let the market evolve organically, it may get there. 0.65

00:28:12.220 But these mandates are ridiculous.

00:28:14.220 And they're just freezing the cost of everything. 0.90

00:28:15.920 I think even Musk realizes this.

00:28:18.240 So, whether he took it as a personal affront, if he's going to talk about government efficiency,

00:28:22.380 he knows enough about markets to know that that's not a good conservative policy.

00:28:26.200 I would hope so.

00:28:26.920 But, I mean...

00:28:27.620 You know, we can be charitable and not charitable.

00:28:28.300 He's a strange guy.

00:28:29.600 He's a strange guy.

00:28:30.540 Yes.

00:28:31.100 I think he would admit that himself.

00:28:32.080 The driving I do, I could probably get by with a golf cart.

00:28:36.300 But, you know, except for the times when I would want to go and hire a gas job to go a longer distance.

00:28:42.580 So, I thought, the thing is, there isn't going to be the power available if everybody has an electric car.

00:28:51.420 And that's their plan.

00:28:52.460 I need it for us.

00:28:53.200 So, this can easily circle back to Premier Smith this morning.

00:28:57.780 He's just saying we're doing our best.

00:28:59.400 But the idea of having all this in place by 2035 is just crazy.

00:29:03.440 Now, we all know that.

00:29:04.620 The rest of the world who listened to her this morning, that was new information.

00:29:07.980 Oh, yeah, really?

00:29:09.020 You know?

00:29:09.620 Good for her.

00:29:11.020 All right.

00:29:11.320 Well, let's turn briefly to the G7.

00:29:16.400 G7 is coming to Alberta, just west of Calgary in Canada. 0.90

00:29:20.620 Damn close to where you're from.

00:29:22.040 Oh, yeah, on the street line, I'm like 30 kilometers away from the facility. 0.96

00:29:26.080 So, I'll be here in a few helicopters this week.

00:29:27.320 G7 is in Corey's backyard.

00:29:29.500 They have already been cooling, haven't they?

00:29:31.920 Oh, well, they come by periodically.

00:29:34.020 I'm sure your house is on a list.

00:29:35.600 I'm sure you were on a list before this even started, I'm sure.

00:29:39.400 Your CSIS agent is, they probably got somebody assigned across the road from me.

00:29:44.820 Yeah.

00:29:46.380 Actually, I'm not very far from it, too, now.

00:29:48.400 So, it begins Sunday, but there's some other diplomatic meetings taking place beforehand.

00:29:58.100 Let's, I don't know, let's start with what we're expecting, what opportunity Mark Carney

00:30:02.660 has here to put his stamp on, thanks.

00:30:05.240 Yes, well, he's going to, this, of course, is, it was Mr. Trudeau's dream that he would

00:30:12.400 come to Kananaskis.

00:30:14.080 He wanted to hang on to T7.

00:30:14.720 Yeah, I mean, missed it by about four months.

00:30:17.360 Too bad, Mr. Trudeau.

00:30:18.760 But I think, you know, I've been walking around Kananaskis in Daniel Smith's backyard and making

00:30:25.000 his pronouncements was a dream that did not come true for him.

00:30:29.020 Now, for Mr. Carney, it's, once again, it's an opportunity to create a certain atmosphere

00:30:36.400 internationally.

00:30:37.980 Obviously, much as we disagree with so much of what he is all about, he comes across as

00:30:46.420 a mature statesman.

00:30:47.500 And I think that a lot of people are going to be thinking, oh, well, this time Canada really

00:30:51.640 is back.

00:30:52.420 Now, they don't live here, so they don't know that we're not.

00:30:55.440 But he will put that across.

00:30:57.240 And my whole problem with the G7 is just, it's another meeting of globalists talking

00:31:05.620 about how to exert greater control over what the likes of you and I, even what we drive

00:31:11.480 to revert to our last segment.

00:31:14.020 Okay, I knew Nigel had to go there.

00:31:17.020 You know, that this, you know, these G7 meetings are kind of an exercise in globalism, internationalism.

00:31:22.540 And I could see the argument for it, but I think it's different than Davos and things

00:31:27.680 like that.

00:31:29.400 It's the leaders of more or less like-minded countries, like-minded, wealthy, or like Canada,

00:31:36.780 formerly wealthy countries, now that Italy is actually richer than Canada.

00:31:41.740 Yeah, we're kind of in on sufferings.

00:31:43.280 Yeah.

00:31:46.180 Getting together to cooperate on issues.

00:31:48.460 International cooperation, I don't think, necessarily equals globalism, internationalism.

00:31:53.500 I mean, we've got Donald Trump there, for God's sakes.

00:31:55.800 I don't think he is credibly considered to be a globalist.

00:31:59.860 I mean, the argument might be that, well, the idea of this institution of the G7, formerly

00:32:04.220 G8, is to capture them into it.

00:32:07.660 I get that.

00:32:10.360 But Donald Trump at this event is going to be fascinating.

00:32:14.060 This is a man who, until extremely recently, was tweeting every few days, sometimes every

00:32:19.920 few minutes, about annexing Canada, making it the cherished 51st state, who has, you know,

00:32:28.040 we've been engaging in a trade war here.

00:32:29.700 And then, not just coming to Canada, but coming to southern Alberta, the flashpoint of independence

00:32:38.140 within Alberta, rural southern Alberta.

00:32:40.580 I mean, good God, he's going to be down the road from Cory Morgan's house.

00:32:44.000 What a place to go.

00:32:47.060 So, at a time when, you know, the Alberta independence movement has gained new legitimacy, new momentum,

00:32:54.580 new credibility, you know, how...

00:32:59.380 Yeah, what do you expect?

00:33:01.960 Well, when Donald's right down the road from Cory Morgan's house, what are you expecting

00:33:06.600 from him?

00:33:08.280 Because he's so unpredictable.

00:33:09.280 Well, he is unpredictable.

00:33:10.360 I mean, it's a stage, and it's a big one.

00:33:12.520 And I think these things, yeah, more than rather than plotting, it's performative.

00:33:16.000 Every leader wants to be the one who stands out at it.

00:33:19.060 And if Trump wants to make some sort of big announcement, it's a good spot for him to do

00:33:23.520 it.

00:33:23.940 So, there might be something in the bag that he's going to want to dominate.

00:33:26.620 I mean, they're almost like a bunch of comedians or actors.

00:33:28.280 You know, everyone wants to steal the show, and Trump certainly is among them.

00:33:32.760 The person who's been granted a gift and a fluke of timing, though, is Carney, because

00:33:37.780 Canadians have been looking, as Nigel said, for somebody dignified, somebody realistic

00:33:41.820 at these functions.

00:33:42.620 We know Trudeau and international ones.

00:33:44.180 He'd be showing off his socks.

00:33:45.520 He'd be tittering and gossiping off to the side.

00:33:47.660 He'd be posing for selfies and waving with people.

00:33:51.020 Carney's going to show some diplomacy and some, you know, come across as solid.

00:33:56.060 And he needs that.

00:33:57.480 But as I said, it's a gift for him as performing for Canada.

00:34:01.040 And he's in luck.

00:34:03.180 I mean, I guess his biggest fear and risk will be that Trump's going to steal the show.

00:34:06.580 He's going to pull a Trump, whatever that might be.

00:34:09.140 The Trump might be Trump.

00:34:10.440 And everything gets overshadowed, you know, that whatever was discussed.

00:34:13.700 Because they have their break-off sessions and their discussions and things.

00:34:17.120 But that's really a minor part of it.

00:34:19.040 Most of it's just kind of playing up for their announcements on a world stage at a gathering

00:34:24.000 and seeing what they can do to steal a show.

00:34:26.620 So Trump has been asked by media about, you know, Annex in Canada, 51st State stuff before.

00:34:34.280 You know, are you serious about this?

00:34:35.960 Are you just trolling them?

00:34:37.020 And he says, no, I'm serious.

00:34:38.600 I'm sick of subsidizing them and blah, blah, blah.

00:34:40.520 They should join us.

00:34:41.180 They'll be cherished.

00:34:41.780 Blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:34:42.220 But he's going to be on Canadian soil.

00:34:46.300 And he's going to get questions from the press.

00:34:48.340 The Western Standard, we've got, I don't know, five or six journalists accredited for the G7.

00:34:55.060 If we get the chance, we're certainly asking them.

00:34:59.720 Do you think he's going to get asked?

00:35:03.460 Like, there's no way around it.

00:35:05.000 Do you think Trump is going to repeat his previous statements around annexing Canada

00:35:11.080 into a single North American ultrapower on Canadian soil?

00:35:16.320 Or do you think he's going to back away from it in the name of diplomacy?

00:35:19.000 Well, I think the latter.

00:35:20.420 That would be kind of a little bit cheeky.

00:35:23.080 Also, Mr. Carney...

00:35:24.360 You don't think Trump could be cheeky?

00:35:26.000 Well, that would be pushing a limit that I don't think he would want to do

00:35:31.800 because, look, Mr. Carney has just, as of this Monday, come out with a massive defense plan.

00:35:39.440 Now, a plan is not an action.

00:35:41.580 That has to follow.

00:35:43.520 A budget might be required.

00:35:44.640 And a budget would certainly be required for the kind of investments he's talking about.

00:35:48.520 But he is saying the right things.

00:35:51.160 And they have been acting on the border.

00:35:53.220 So, the original things that Trump said were the reason are now not so hot.

00:36:04.060 So, I would imagine his answer would be probably something.

00:36:08.660 Well, you know, Canadians really want to join the United States.

00:36:11.580 We'd be glad to have them.

00:36:12.620 But, you know, I've got a lot of respect for Mr. Carney.

00:36:15.060 And I think with all the things that he's been doing, you know,

00:36:17.860 it's all the things he's been doing.

00:36:18.920 I don't do a very good Trump interpretation.

00:36:21.080 But, you know, he's going to give Carney credit on Carney's home territory for being a good Carney.

00:36:28.800 You might be right.

00:36:30.400 I hope I'm right.

00:36:31.100 You might be right.

00:36:31.760 That would be the right thing to do.

00:36:32.940 Trump is so, I mean, if he's anything, he is unpredictable.

00:36:37.740 And here I am asking you guys to predict because we could try.

00:36:40.680 Well, that's it.

00:36:41.360 He could come out and be the perfect diplomat for three days.

00:36:44.560 I mean, neither would surprise me.

00:36:45.740 Or he could do cartwheels across the stage and pull something completely bizarre.

00:36:49.660 I mean, and anything in between.

00:36:50.980 It's Trump.

00:36:52.060 One thing you're not going to get is what you have at that infamous NATO meeting in 2021,

00:36:57.620 I think it was when, no, it must have been 2018,

00:37:02.480 when the Prime Minister of Canada makes stickering remarks about Trump

00:37:06.660 as soon as he's on Air Force One and wheels up.

00:37:09.480 That was just so bad.

00:37:13.620 It's amazing.

00:37:14.460 But mean girls. 1.00

00:37:14.980 Well, I mean, the guy didn't deserve to win the 2015 election,

00:37:19.960 but elected him after pulling a stunt like that with the President of the United States,

00:37:24.160 or any other important national leader,

00:37:26.540 basically getting his face slapped in China.

00:37:29.320 You know, just, that will not happen.

00:37:34.160 No, and it's not just Canadians that are relieved that Justin Trudeau won't be the face of Canada at this affair.

00:37:39.020 I'm sure the other world leaders are happy they don't have to deal with them as well.

00:37:41.940 Well, it was an embarrassment in particular for the leftist G7 leaders that,

00:37:46.420 because he had, oh, he was the longest serving remaining of them,

00:37:49.120 kind of from that Obama era of kind of Hopi, changey, colorful song theaters.

00:37:54.220 He was kind of embarrassing.

00:37:55.200 Like, Keir Starmer doesn't want to be associated with that.

00:37:57.800 He's probably happier to have the former Bank of England governor there.

00:38:03.620 I get, in this vein, though, make it a bit more specific.

00:38:07.840 There's a good chance Trump gets asked, I mean, less of a chance,

00:38:11.300 but if we get a chance for a question, we're going to ask Trump about Alberta.

00:38:15.540 Now, some people talk about 51st state stuff from Alberta.

00:38:19.860 That's not a mainstream discussion here, discussions around independence.

00:38:24.300 But, I mean, you can certainly see from an American perspective

00:38:26.980 how it would be in America's interest for Alberta or Alberta and Saskatchewan

00:38:31.660 to be independent and trade directly with the United States outside of Canada.

00:38:35.920 What do you, if Trump gets asked about that?

00:38:41.020 If I wanted their light of firecrackers,

00:38:43.400 I don't think it is more reasonable than the America 51. 0.94

00:38:45.320 It's just saying, if Alberta and or Saskatchewan voted to secede from Canada,

00:38:51.320 would you recognize them as an independent nation?

00:38:53.920 Because that's one of the things the opponents say is,

00:38:56.640 well, no countries will recognize it.

00:38:57.940 Well, if that country does, that's all it needs.

00:39:01.120 And if he just said, yes, I would respect their choice at that point,

00:39:04.080 boy, that would be an incredible game-changer for the entire discussion.

00:39:09.800 Yeah.

00:39:10.800 Yeah, that would be very real.

00:39:13.100 And I don't think it'd be as rude as, you know, 51st state and a solid Canada stuff.

00:39:17.840 It's just so you see a crazy idea.

00:39:19.900 It's just saying I would recognize that new sovereign state.

00:39:21.740 Yeah, that's not a crazy idea.

00:39:23.300 Well, you couch it and say, listen, you know,

00:39:25.060 we respect the wishes of people when they're clearly expressed.

00:39:28.860 Okay, okay.

00:39:29.540 But Trump doesn't do that careful diplomatic, like that.

00:39:32.940 He'll never yes or no.

00:39:34.560 The one thing I can predict is he is not going to answer like that.

00:39:37.760 That's the one thing I know about him.

00:39:40.420 You know, he'll either not answer because he doesn't really know too much about it,

00:39:44.000 or he'll say like, yeah, it's all the people of Alberta and Saskatchewan,

00:39:46.820 and if they want to do it, then, yeah, of course I'll recognize them.

00:39:51.320 That's their choice.

00:39:52.480 And then who knows, maybe he goes further and saying,

00:39:53.860 and then they should join us or et cetera, probably.

00:39:56.040 He'll probably go further.

00:39:57.040 But I, the one thing I cannot foresee is Trump giving some carefully,

00:40:02.360 diplomatically couched, practiced answer on that.

00:40:06.520 What was the first?

00:40:08.660 You never know.

00:40:10.020 That's what we get to ask the question.

00:40:11.700 Yeah.

00:40:12.100 And it'll be our school.

00:40:12.860 Let's, uh, I have a feeling we might not get selected for it,

00:40:16.480 but we've got a lot of journalists there.

00:40:18.820 It'll be refined up until two minutes ago.

00:40:20.620 So, yeah.

00:40:21.940 Okay, uh, real quick, before we get on to parting shots,

00:40:24.900 uh, let's just talk about LA.

00:40:26.740 I mean, it's well beyond scope of normal pipeline topics,

00:40:29.740 but it's relevant as we're talking about, uh, out of control immigration.

00:40:34.220 Uh, Canada is at the margins,

00:40:37.540 picking away at some of the utterly ghastly policies around temporary foreign workers, et cetera.

00:40:42.880 Uh, the United States is taking a much more aggressive approach.

00:40:45.560 Uh, they're sending out posses of cowboys with lassos to find illegal migrants.

00:40:49.980 Uh, and pull them south over, uh, over the river. 0.99

00:40:54.200 Um, in LA, this blown up into riots,

00:40:57.300 which are considered mostly peaceful by the legacy media.

00:41:00.600 Um, I don't know.

00:41:02.720 What impact, if any, uh, Corey,

00:41:04.720 do you think the LA riots are going to have on the immigration discussion in Canada?

00:41:08.920 Uh, I don't know if they necessarily will in Canada,

00:41:11.300 but, I mean, perhaps.

00:41:12.560 I hope it does bring some nuanced discussion

00:41:14.820 because every country is grappling with the consequences of mass migration.

00:41:19.660 I mean, we've been kicking it down the road.

00:41:22.280 People have been understating the impact of problems with integration,

00:41:25.440 the problems when you hit, uh, saturation, I guess you could say.

00:41:28.460 Paris is burning regularly, it seems.

00:41:30.580 Other countries are really having an issue with this.

00:41:32.760 I can only hope that some eyes are watching Los Angeles

00:41:35.680 and realizing, again, we've got to get reasonable controls on immigration.

00:41:40.620 Well, I think the other thing that affects the California situation

00:41:45.400 is that, um, as in Canada,

00:41:48.120 there's a lot of big money transfers

00:41:50.340 between the federal government and the states.

00:41:53.520 Easily the largest recipient of, of, uh, federal transfers is California.

00:41:59.140 It's something like $160 billion U.S. a year.

00:42:02.160 That's about a third of their budget.

00:42:03.360 Well, they are, but that's, uh, you know,

00:42:06.460 the next biggest only gets a hundred.

00:42:08.060 So, uh, you know, it's, it's a very, very large part of their budget.

00:42:12.400 And, uh, yeah, they're worried about boozing population.

00:42:16.320 They have lost, you know, people moving in, people moving out

00:42:19.620 over the last 10 years.

00:42:20.940 They're down 2 million people.

00:42:22.600 Well, that translates into loss of federal transfers.

00:42:25.680 So, whereas I, I do think that, uh, Newsom

00:42:29.560 and, uh, uh, and the senior politicians in California

00:42:34.080 are genuinely motivated by a deep distaste for President Trump,

00:42:39.560 they are also, there is a second layer of us,

00:42:42.600 but they're worried about where the money is coming.

00:42:44.720 So they actually don't want people removed from the state

00:42:47.920 who would otherwise be good for, uh, whatever the...

00:42:50.360 They're also losing regular Americans to, uh, you know,

00:42:54.280 legal Americans, uh, to other states.

00:42:56.760 Texas, uh, legal...

00:42:57.940 Texas is sick of it.

00:42:58.840 Texas wants to send them back.

00:43:00.080 Let's put it this way.

00:43:01.000 Legal taxpay Americans who are leaving California,

00:43:04.120 they are being replaced by people who do not contribute

00:43:07.580 in the same way.

00:43:08.640 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 If we're going to be nuanced.

00:43:11.340 Okay.

00:43:12.000 Well, let's go to our parting shots.

00:43:13.420 We'll start with Corey.

00:43:14.900 Sure.

00:43:15.320 Actually, I'll just kind of couple on with that.

00:43:17.320 I was, you know, looking at some legacy media

00:43:19.380 before we started this and they're referring to the situation

00:43:22.560 in Los Angeles typically as demonstrations or protests.

00:43:26.300 They're riots.

00:43:27.380 Call them what they are.

00:43:28.340 They're burning police cars.

00:43:29.680 They're stealing Nikes.

00:43:30.700 They're looting stores.

00:43:31.980 They're not putting bread on the shelves.

00:43:33.420 They're stealing jewelry.

00:43:34.800 Call a riot a riot.

00:43:36.640 I mean, you can talk about the causes and everything else,

00:43:38.780 but with this mislabeling of what that is,

00:43:40.900 is really frustrating.

00:43:42.080 It's not some calm protest.

00:43:43.560 And it just, again, shows that disconnect

00:43:45.160 from legacy media with reality.

00:43:47.240 Yeah.

00:43:47.340 I think the days of people saying,

00:43:49.400 well, we need to understand the root causes of their grief.

00:43:51.900 Oh, they shouldn't do this,

00:43:52.960 but we should understand the root causes.

00:43:54.400 I think these guys are hurting their case badly

00:43:56.780 when you've got masked maniacs going around

00:43:59.380 carrying Mexican flags, standing on burning cars.

00:44:02.500 You guys are literally making the campaign commercial

00:44:05.580 for J.D. Vance.

00:44:08.080 Nigel.

00:44:08.520 Well, it's a sad and bitter day in my life.

00:44:11.100 Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys died today,

00:44:13.780 I think, in 82.

00:44:15.300 He was my inspiration back in the 60s

00:44:17.940 when I was first driving.

00:44:20.720 And there I was in my little old 1935 Austin 7,

00:44:24.040 and he was there in his hot rod with the Little Deuce Coupe

00:44:26.920 and all the other great old songs in the 409.

00:44:30.580 But, well, everybody dies in the end.

00:44:33.560 But I just, I had the satisfaction of getting a Beach Boy concert.

00:44:37.740 I've used the word singularly,

00:44:39.760 the Beach Boy concert about three years ago.

00:44:42.940 And that was another dream come true,

00:44:45.080 but it won't be Brian Wilson anymore.

00:44:46.920 No, I remember growing up,

00:44:48.560 I liked a lot of my dad's music,

00:44:50.000 but the one band I just hated,

00:44:52.140 it hurt my ears, was the Beach Boys.

00:44:54.040 Oh, really?

00:44:55.180 But then when I got my first Little Deuce Coupe,

00:44:57.800 it started to turn.

00:45:00.680 Now I love Beach Boys.

00:45:01.680 But it hurt my ears, though, as a teenager.

00:45:03.980 One of those bands that truly did influence

00:45:06.080 it's the countless other bands.

00:45:07.980 I mean, they were one of the rare game changers.

00:45:09.960 Oh, Pet Siren's probably the most innovative album ever.

00:45:13.460 Anyway, that's my parting show.

00:45:15.620 All right.

00:45:16.500 Mine, I'm actually going to bring in a special guest today.

00:45:19.600 We've been trying to get an interview with him.

00:45:21.240 For years now,

00:45:23.460 we've been trying to get a hold of

00:45:27.860 Federal Environment Minister Stephen Gilbo.

00:45:30.760 We're joined by him now

00:45:32.500 at the Global Energy Show.

00:45:35.400 He has been kind enough to come by

00:45:37.020 the Western Standards Exhibition booth here.

00:45:40.140 We've had people coming by,

00:45:41.820 snapping photos with him.

00:45:44.540 We've had a lot of requests

00:45:46.260 for darts and BB guns.

00:45:49.380 We have declined to offer it

00:45:51.460 because some people are too damn sensitive

00:45:54.220 and they'll think we're trying to, you know,

00:45:55.880 encourage violence against politicians and whatnot.

00:45:58.700 It's not the case.

00:46:00.260 I think it would have been harmless.

00:46:01.560 But we've just settled for photos.

00:46:04.020 Oh, I see some people said,

00:46:04.980 I love oil on here.

00:46:06.920 So people are, okay,

00:46:07.820 maybe people just come by.

00:46:08.960 If you're in Calgary,

00:46:09.740 you're in the Calgary area in Southern Alberta,

00:46:11.580 come by the Global Energy Show,

00:46:13.160 come into the Exhibitor Hall,

00:46:14.660 and you can leave a note on Stephen here.

00:46:16.680 That's it for today's show.

00:46:20.580 So I'm going to thank Nigel and Corey for joining

00:46:22.520 and all of you for joining us here.

00:46:24.900 Remember, the Western Standard relies on readers

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00:46:30.160 click on subscribe.

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00:46:33.040 for unlimited access.

00:46:34.740 And you'll get exclusive hot interviews

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00:46:41.120 Thank you very much for joining us today

00:46:42.360 and God bless.

00:46:43.140 Thank you.

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00:46:46.680 Thank you.

Western Standard - June 12, 2025

One Big Beautiful Oil Show

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