Western Standard - July 14, 2022


Paul Hinman on the state of the Wildrose Independence Party


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Wildrose Leader Brian Jean Jean-Paul Bernier joins the show to talk about his new role as interim leader of the Wildrose Independence Party, and what it means for the future of the party. He also talks about why he thinks the party should go back to the fold.

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00:00:00.000 So getting back to, we had you on a little while ago, things were pretty heated, I guess,
00:00:04.960 between yourself and the executive of the Wildrose Independence Party.
00:00:09.460 Now, I mean, we'll need this explained.
00:00:12.040 I know you're still out there.
00:00:13.680 You're serving as leader.
00:00:14.940 You're holding town hall meetings.
00:00:16.340 You did one in Southwood recently.
00:00:18.420 But at the same time, the executive is claiming that they have an interim leader.
00:00:22.620 You're no longer the leader and they're just moving ahead.
00:00:25.980 What's going on?
00:00:26.800 Well, like usual, they're not really doing anything in public, but they love meeting their little secret meetings and organizing and, I don't know, pontificating on things.
00:00:36.320 But we got to talk to Albertans.
00:00:38.060 It's exciting to be out.
00:00:39.700 There's just so many issues.
00:00:41.260 And, you know, you talked earlier about Tamara.
00:00:44.220 Albertans should be up in arms.
00:00:45.600 Our government should be up in arms and saying, bring her back. 1.00
00:00:48.400 I mean, how many years ago was it that we put out $10.5 million to an individual that was supposedly wrongfully, you know, detained?
00:00:57.460 This is just unbelievable to me.
00:00:59.360 And we need some leadership in government to reach out and stop this insanity.
00:01:04.140 And I don't know.
00:01:05.300 It's frustrating.
00:01:05.980 Again, who can believe that we've gone from the wokeism of climatology and the fact that climate is changing, which, by the way, folks, it's always changed, to saying that they're going to reduce fertilizer.
00:01:20.600 And yet, in their back breath, they talk about humanity and the importance of bringing up, you know, reducing poverty and feeding the world, that their actions actually show who they are.
00:01:32.680 These are not good people.
00:01:34.060 They don't have good motives.
00:01:35.340 They want to hurt humanity.
00:01:37.160 They want people to be dependent on government.
00:01:39.940 They want us to own nothing.
00:01:41.680 And we need some leadership.
00:01:43.220 We need a government that is actually going to be there to protect the individuals, their rights, their life, their liberty, their property, their pursuit of happiness.
00:01:50.600 And all of those things are being undermined.
00:01:53.400 And we just need to get out and, I guess, reach out to Albertans.
00:01:58.080 And I love your statement, go woke, go broke.
00:02:01.080 Boy, does that pertain to government more than anywhere.
00:02:05.460 Our governments have gone woke.
00:02:07.540 And we're running massive deficits of 1% interest rates today.
00:02:11.680 What's that going to do to people that their mortgages are coming due?
00:02:14.920 It's just shameful.
00:02:17.400 Yeah, well, pivot it back.
00:02:19.700 I mean, especially as conservatives, we're sometimes our own worst enemies.
00:02:23.660 Drew Barnes has been the only elected official, really.
00:02:26.220 And it's, you know, Tamara Leach is his constituent.
00:02:28.960 And he's been speaking up and speaking out on your behalf.
00:02:31.200 But the silence from the UCP on an Alberta constituent on this, of course, has been deafening.
00:02:36.600 But Drew is also an example of if you speak up too much, you get kicked out of your party.
00:02:41.120 And likewise, I still want to kind of get to, you know, questions with the Wilder's Independence Party.
00:02:46.240 You've got an AGM coming up in a week and change.
00:02:50.000 What's going to happen there?
00:02:51.120 Well, I think our members are going to take our party back.
00:02:55.000 But, again, you know, when you're up against a cabal that has, you know, the communications lockdown, the website lockdown,
00:03:01.640 they basically, you know, put a stranglehold on every area of our membership and putting out their, you know, ridiculous letters and slanderous letters.
00:03:13.380 They're shooting ourselves in the foot.
00:03:15.680 And it's very discouraging, you know, that I don't know whether you want to call them plants, gangsters, whether they're agents of destruction.
00:03:27.160 You've been fighting the independent movement longer than anything, Corey, and you understand.
00:03:32.000 But, boy, you really have to wonder, you know, some of these individuals that they've come in to make sure that we're not successful.
00:03:38.120 And I have great faith in our memberships here on the 23rd of July at Baymont in Red Deer.
00:03:45.580 Our members will take the party back.
00:03:47.460 We can't have a cabal of 10 destroying our party in the future for Alberta.
00:03:53.420 Yeah, well, that's what I wanted to talk about because that's what kind of surprised me when I talked with you and Rick Northey recently was,
00:03:59.880 okay, there's some disputes, there's some problems.
00:04:02.040 That's hardly new in the parties.
00:04:03.580 We know that all too well.
00:04:04.700 But when you have an AGM coming that close, that's when ideally you'd say, well, let's throw it out on the floor at the AGM.
00:04:11.820 We're going to have the members here, and this is when we can hash it out instead of trying to radically change the party 10 days before an AGM and leave members without a choice.
00:04:22.520 So I imagine, I mean, you're going to be attending that AGM, and I hope it's a productive one.
00:04:30.460 I think it'll be very productive.
00:04:31.940 And again, you know, one of the sad things that we all realize is what people are like when they're intoxicated or high.
00:04:40.220 And it's a real problem in our society when people get into that.
00:04:43.880 The thing that I've realized more than anything when it comes to government and power and these institutions is that people become intoxicated and high with power.
00:04:52.780 And again, they're just drunk and not thinking reasonable.
00:04:57.380 And like I say, I have great faith in the members stepping up and saying, you know, we don't need you anymore to tell us what we can and can't do.
00:05:05.440 And you don't respond to our emails and you don't.
00:05:08.000 There's been such a disconnect.
00:05:09.880 And again, it goes back to what we're talking with climate change.
00:05:12.440 These woke individuals and woke politicians who want to reduce fertilizer and take away, you know, cheap fuel that helps, you know, an input into our basic life and living.
00:05:25.080 And it's the same with inside government and our current board.
00:05:29.300 There's a cabal of them.
00:05:31.220 It's not all of them, but the majority.
00:05:33.120 And they just kind of, like I say, they're grasping at every angle they can.
00:05:39.620 The information is hard to get.
00:05:41.400 We don't even know who's up for elections.
00:05:43.640 And it's very disappointing to see the way they're operating and what they're going to do going into the AGM.
00:05:49.680 But the members are fired up and they want their freedom and they want their party and they want to save Alberta.
00:05:55.240 That's it.
00:05:55.880 It is frustrating.
00:05:57.240 I mean, I want to see a good competitive election.
00:06:00.340 I want to see multiple parties really making a push.
00:06:02.500 And unfortunately, when you're spending more time putting out fires from within rather than getting ready for an election in less than a year, it makes it difficult.
00:06:09.780 And there is so much to push back.
00:06:11.100 As you said, there's irrational people.
00:06:14.120 And, you know, drunkenness is almost a good comparison.
00:06:16.780 Like I said in my opening monologue, I mean, these are World Economic Forum type people.
00:06:21.620 These are elitists.
00:06:22.400 These are ones that don't understand what it is to have difficulty paying the rent or feeding the family.
00:06:27.860 As I said, it's National Frankenbeans Day. 1.00
00:06:30.220 You know, I was laughing about that as a comfort food.
00:06:32.140 But that's also a food that you feed when you're a parent because you can't afford much for kids.
00:06:36.420 And these imbeciles are trying to ban fertilizers and fossil fuels. 0.69
00:06:41.700 It's absurd.
00:06:42.760 But they're disconnected from the realities of the majority of the world.
00:06:46.920 Yes, I've said many times.
00:06:48.780 I think I said last time I was on your show.
00:06:50.080 These are economic imbeciles that are sitting around the table eating chicken nuggets, plotting on how to get rid of chicken farms.
00:06:57.580 And now it's the same thing.
00:06:58.900 Now they're plotting on how to get rid of fertilizer.
00:07:01.080 They don't know what it's for, but they've been told, oh, it hurts the atmosphere.
00:07:04.860 I'm sorry.
00:07:05.720 That's actually you want to go green?
00:07:08.180 Fertilizer is what produces green.
00:07:10.040 Fertilizer and water.
00:07:11.740 And yet they want to attack these things.
00:07:14.060 They want to reduce people's consumption of them.
00:07:16.720 And it's just wrong what they're doing.
00:07:18.420 And there's two things, Corey, I guess, that it's really boiling down to is trust and truth.
00:07:25.880 And we have very little trust in our government, in our organizations, whether it's the WHO, whether it's, you know, Alberta Health Care, whatever it is, Alberta Education, that the trust has been diminished, if not, you know, eliminated for many people.
00:07:41.920 And then the truth.
00:07:43.000 And they won't tell the truth.
00:07:44.680 CO2 is not a toxin.
00:07:46.740 It's not a pollutant.
00:07:47.760 It's plant food.
00:07:48.940 And if they went to biology 30 and studied it, they'd really realize the cycle of CO2 and plants and oxygen and how important it is.
00:07:56.800 But they're about fear mongering.
00:07:58.260 They're about scaring you.
00:07:59.320 They're about saying that you can't do it on your own.
00:08:01.620 You need big brother, big government there from cradle to grave.
00:08:04.760 And that's their goal.
00:08:05.880 And again, like it's disappointing to hear the front runner, who I absolutely say is the best of the pack, is now wanting to give away more money.
00:08:14.740 How about reducing our taxes?
00:08:16.360 How about making health care accessible instead of another ploy?
00:08:20.620 And this is a problem that we have in this even so-called conservative movement, is more promises.
00:08:26.280 What we need to do is promise to reduce the size of government.
00:08:28.960 We need to promise to leave money in your pocket, not taxing it.
00:08:32.500 We need to promise that you have your freedom, not saying what businesses you can and can't do.
00:08:36.840 We need to reduce the regulations to say, you know, if you want to travel, you can.
00:08:40.100 Give us back our constitutional rights.
00:08:42.420 All of these core issues are being pushed to the side with, you know, little trinkets and sparkly items and a few flashing dollars saying, oh, you know, vote for me.
00:08:52.420 And it's sad.
00:08:53.220 And that's why the Wild Rose just needs to take back our party on the 23rd and be there for Albertans to actually have something that people can vote and believe in instead of the best of the worst.
00:09:03.520 Well, things that kind of have to get worse before they'll get better and they are getting worse.
00:09:10.960 And kind of, as I said, my monologue, when people can't pay the bills, when they can't feed the family, they're going to get up.
00:09:18.620 And it doesn't matter how much you warn them about how the temperature is going to go up a degree in 50 years, potentially, or, you know, a tree frog in some obscure place.
00:09:26.800 They're just worried about their immediate bills and they're not going to take it.
00:09:29.560 So I guess the goal is, though, I mean, there's always that risk when people are ready for radical change because they've had enough.
00:09:35.800 We're just going to make sure it's positive change because sometimes, of course, when people rush in a panic to change, they can take a negative path as well.
00:09:42.620 So, I mean, it takes some planning and some electoral options and wisdom, I guess.
00:09:46.940 We've got eight months to work on it.
00:09:48.640 That's the scary thing, Corey, is that if you wait until you're desperate, until there really is food shortages,
00:09:54.500 until the price is to the point where you can't pay your bills and sustain your family, then you end up with mob mentality.
00:10:03.260 And that's not good.
00:10:04.300 It's terrible.
00:10:05.400 And we need to give that food security, fuel security to Albertans and realize that it is here and we can protect it.
00:10:11.900 But I don't know, it's just so discouraging to look at Trudeau and Biden and the world leaders and their ploy to say,
00:10:21.240 oh, we're going to save the world because the climate catastrophe is here.
00:10:25.340 I mean, even Mayor Gondike, you know, calling a climate emergency.
00:10:29.120 Do these people know what emergency is?
00:10:31.440 No, they don't.
00:10:32.500 The emergency act, just that in itself, I've come to realize after the flood in High River in 2013 in Calgary,
00:10:40.160 you've got to let people be free to protect themselves, their property and do things.
00:10:45.800 And when government steps in, I'm sorry, the outcome is diminished, if not, I want to say complicated, made worse.
00:10:55.460 And there's just so many opportunities that we have here.
00:10:58.180 And it's critical that we're able to get out and talk to Albertans and let them realize there is a viable option.
00:11:04.820 You don't have to vote for the best of the worst.
00:11:06.840 You can actually vote for what you believe in.
00:11:09.300 And that's what the Wild Rose Independence Party is about and why we're here.
00:11:13.080 And we need people to come out to the AGM and oust this cabal of individuals who want to destroy all of that.
00:11:21.680 Well, I want to close it out so that that AGM is in about 10 days.
00:11:26.280 Where can people find out information or can they contact you, I guess, because the information from the party is now sort of limited?
00:11:34.060 You know, I haven't actually gone to my website to see if it's up there, paul at paulhinman.com.
00:11:38.980 But it should be on the party's website, wildrosenation.com.
00:11:43.380 But if not, yeah, give us a call at 1-888-262-1888 or email me at paulhinman at gmail.com.
00:11:52.280 Okay, and the AGM is going to be in red gear on, it's open all of them.
00:11:58.300 Yeah, 23rd of July at the Baymont.
00:12:01.700 Okay, well, we'll see what happens.
00:12:04.140 I'm pretty sure we'll send somebody from the Standard there to watch.
00:12:06.880 Hopefully, something productive comes out of it.
00:12:09.920 We just want to let everybody know what's happening and let your members sort things out how they will.
00:12:14.620 Well, yeah, continuation of Wild Western days.
00:12:18.320 It is that.
00:12:19.380 All right.
00:12:19.840 Well, thanks, Paul.
00:12:21.380 And good luck in the next little while.
00:12:23.840 And I'm sure we'll talk again soon.
00:12:25.720 Thanks, Corey.
00:12:26.320 You take care and keep up the good work.
00:12:27.980 And again, let's support independent news.
00:12:31.200 Great.
00:12:31.520 Thanks, Paul.
00:12:31.940 Thank you.
00:12:33.740 Thank you.
00:12:34.040 Thank you.
00:12:38.580 Thank you.