Corey and Josh are joined by former editor-in-chief of the Western Standard's flagship show, The Pipeline, to discuss the latest news involving the Alberta government and the upcoming referendum on Alberta's independence from the United Conservative Party.
00:01:50.940So a big promotion for Mr. Nixon, who's never held any sort of financial position before.
00:01:57.880Also out is Matt Jones, who had one of the health ministries.
00:02:03.480And he is also not going to run for re-election.
00:02:07.400So he's asked to step away from the cabinet, his replacement to be determined.
00:02:13.060And 9.30 tomorrow morning, the premier will introduce the new members of the cabinet.
00:02:20.140but no media allowed oh so yeah that's very strange there will be a pool camera well i'm
00:02:30.300yeah i guess they really want to control some messaging right now i think they've got a message
00:02:34.940to control yes so nigel i guess start with you what do you think the motivations of a shuffle
00:02:40.620at this time might be well there's a few things it could be um if anybody is not 100 behind the
00:02:47.340premier on her dealings with mr carnegie that would certainly be uh cause for removal uh i
00:02:55.660don't know whether that is the case with either of the two who have uh have um let's say what it
00:03:02.620is been sacked um another possibility is that it would deal with their positions on alberta
00:03:10.700independence the premier is trying to walk a very tight line and i think she wants to be sure that
00:03:18.300everybody who is in that inner circle is on exactly the same page as she was now again i don't know
00:03:25.500that mr horner and the other chap were not but uh those are the kinds of things that as premier
00:03:32.700i would be thinking about right now because the stakes are really high with the pipeline
00:03:38.540with whether to put the question to the referendums on October the 19th.
00:03:46.100So many things going on here, all the months.
00:03:48.280Yeah, well, with a lot going on, I mean, Josh, there's always rumors.
00:03:52.860I mean, do you think there's turmoil hiding back there?
00:03:54.660I mean, this government's actually been pretty good as far as conservative governments go
00:03:57.740without seeing too many cabinet ministers or others suddenly flying off the handle
00:04:01.520or calling out the premier or anything like that.
00:04:04.180But it doesn't mean that they haven't kept some hot words behind closed doors.
00:04:07.940Yeah, and I think the timing of this announcement is a part of the story. It's, you know, on the eve tomorrow, they will be Daniel Smith will be likely having a televised address to the province on the upcoming independence referendum, whether they go along with Thomas Lukasik's referendum or tweak the wording is irrelevant.
00:04:30.320In this case, I think there is a large, maybe not large, but a segment of UCP, MLA's, cabinet ministers, staff that don't want to see this referendum move forward.
00:04:42.980And I think that's what we're seeing here is maybe not necessarily a public explosion, but something where, you know, the premier is trying to tighten up her ship, is checking loyalties and changes are being made as a result.
00:04:59.620now we only know two are going two are coming out and one is going in we don't know the broader
00:05:05.780shift of the shuffle we don't know um about any of the other portfolios i'm guessing that given
00:05:11.460you have a subtraction of one um there will be some shuffling maybe they will add another cabinet
00:05:17.860minister but i think uh this is just the premier kind of buttoning things up in cabinet and making
00:05:24.020sure that everybody is on board with the line that she is walking which is like nigel said it's a
00:05:29.060tightrope you've got on one hand those who seek independence on the other you have those who want
00:05:34.260to remain in canada and i think what she's trying to do is walk that middle line of people who are
00:05:40.580not necessarily ready to vote to leave but are you know not happy with the way things are and
00:05:48.660they have significant grievances with the federal government so which which side these two mlas
00:05:54.260go on is is or sit is a is a secondary question thomas lukasik of note uh tweeted earlier today
00:06:01.220that neither horner nor jones support having an independence referendum at all and align with his
00:06:08.020view that his quote-unquote citizen initiated referendum petition uh that isn't actually a
00:06:14.020referendum petition somehow i don't know how the logic works on that but then again i'm not in
00:06:18.420thomas's head but if that's what he's saying then i think there's a potential link that maybe these
00:06:23.620two MLAs weren't supportive of the government's position and are resigning as a result, even
00:06:27.540though their letters won't say that. Dave, have you seen if, I mean, you're stepping away from
00:06:33.620politics, but there's two ways that would go. Does that mean one of them or both of them might be
00:06:37.380saying, well, I'm out next week and we're going to need a by-election, or are they looking to write
00:06:40.420it out in the back bench? I think Jones is looking to write it out in the back bench, and I think
00:06:45.220Horner will likely want to go quickly. You know, going from finance minister to back bencher
00:06:52.020it's a bit of a as a as nigel quite said it it's a sacking right and he he was also a uh kennedy
00:07:00.660kenny era man and i i'm sure that's uh not lost on on people it's uh you know in terms of tightening0.67
00:07:08.340up the cabinet one less kenny uh follower the better i think for you know david it does seem
00:07:14.820to me that the premier really needs some kind of public guidance in october to preserve her own
00:07:24.580authority not just in cabinet but in caucus and in government if there is right now there
00:07:31.700are so many people who are playing with the idea of separation independence
00:07:39.460and they want to feel that there is going to be a result now if there is a pipeline approved
00:07:47.480and we and we can take it seriously a lot of that support is going to fall away i have to
00:07:55.580i have to think but the premier is hoping that the process that she's worked out with mr carney
00:08:01.200last friday is going to give her that escape route we won't have to act on it because oh
00:08:07.020everything's all right the independence numbers are down to 19 from 35 you know issue has gone
00:08:14.060away but if it doesn't go away well then it would be great for her to have the voice of the people
00:08:21.980speak and say what they actually want that gives her some options well i'm responding to i'm
00:08:27.580responding to what the public is saying well i think there's this independence chatter this issue
00:08:34.620it's going to dominate alberta for the next six months whether she calls a referendum to try and
00:08:39.740put this to rest and settle it or not i i personally from what we're seeing it's going to go one of two
00:08:45.180ways if there isn't something for that movement to shoot sink their teeth into the referendum then
00:08:49.660they are going to turn on her and then it's going to be other battles going on that she's going to
00:08:55.900have to be circling the wagons for all summer it's kind of a rock in a hard place you know
00:09:01.180corey if i i'm sorry yeah i was going to say that i think i i do think that there is going
00:09:07.740to be a referendum whether and again i don't know whether it's going to be on the kazik's question
00:09:12.460or on uh a government uh sponsored one i don't know if we'll know that uh today we'll we'll find
00:09:18.780out but um i think that the issue that the independent side has in this very moment is
00:09:25.340you have a lot of the leadership that are are attacking the premier that are going after the
00:09:29.580the premier for her lack of interest in what they're doing from their standpoint but if she
00:09:35.760puts a referendum on the table and they continue to attack her when they have a clear objective
00:09:41.300that they have to hit you have to win that referendum now and so if they're if you see
00:09:45.620kind of that split where the grassroots membership looks at the direction that the leadership is
00:09:50.180taking the movement and isn't talking about an independence referendum it's attacking the premier
00:09:54.460trying to remove her you're seeing sylvester right now pushing people into the ucp like you
00:09:59.320should be focused on what's coming and that's a referendum this is mainly not the way you wanted
00:10:03.600it but it is very much a showing and perhaps even like having luke hasick's question on the ballot
00:10:10.500where it's a not necessarily a constitutional question it's a policy question it might lower
00:10:16.760the stakes a little bit and get more people showing up and saying like look actually i want
00:10:20.100to send a message to the federal government i'm voting to not stay in canada because we need to
00:10:24.860send a message to ottawa and maybe that's what happens but i think part of the issue that we're
00:10:29.220seeing in the independence camp is is there even if they get their referendum they're going to turn
00:10:34.660around and they're going to attack the premier and i think that's a missed opportunity because
00:10:38.580you do have to be driving support to get the answer you want on that referendum question no
00:10:43.140matter what you know if i if i may just comment on that uh and you probably know what i'm going
00:10:48.660to say but it's if if you are in the independence camp you have to be really sure you know what you
00:10:57.780want and why you want it uh we can all agree we've often said it from this there's this table
00:11:05.060that the influence of eastern canada does alberta no good and it is the values as much as anything
00:11:12.900that are implicit in the liberal governments that we've had which make people just want to
00:11:18.580turn their back on the whole thing all the political correctness all the you know whites0.76
00:11:23.460not needed for in the army the the green stuff which you know is is hokum all of those things
00:11:30.260are good reasons for albertans to be discontented but anybody i refer you to um judge leonard's uh
00:11:38.580decision on the uh on the referendum uh that was to be prompted by 300 000 signatures of angry
00:11:49.540albertans that should have been allowed to happen i view her um a decision as politically motivated
00:11:58.420she probably would say otherwise but i that's how i see it so what i'm saying is that you
00:12:05.300as a bona fide a peace-loving alberta independence seeker thinking to action the constitutional
00:12:13.620mechanism that is available for a province that wants to leave talking about the clarity act
00:12:18.660If you think that Ottawa is going to let you quietly do that and accept the results of a free vote and negotiate a peaceful exit with all our money, which keeps the rest of Canada going, so the narrative goes, I don't think it's going to work out like that.
00:12:40.620So just how much do you want to put into this?
00:12:42.880well i think i agree with that sentiment and i think that the federal government
00:12:48.080they're going to interpret the clarity act however they see fit in that moment i think
00:12:53.280that that's going like that kind of creates that deeper resentment and and it may shift a lot of
00:13:00.320people that like we know that there's discontentment towards ottawa i mean that shows up every time we
00:13:06.400go to the polls and elect you know 33 conservative mlas but or mps but at the same time like if they
00:13:13.520continue to take this path it's going to harden support and and yeah maybe uh maybe it's not this
00:13:19.760wave that gets to over the 50 maybe it's the next one like i think they're playing with fire here
00:13:24.080they also have you know potential pq government in quebec to deal with that's watching this like
00:13:29.120none of this is happening in a vacuum and i think the liberals are are hardening something where
00:13:36.240And even this MOU, I don't necessarily think that's going to help, right?
00:13:39.480I mean, it's a pipeline by 2034 is when they're expected to have it completed
00:13:44.120in exchange for concessions on the carbon.
00:13:47.640Well, I mean, they don't get built overnight.
00:13:49.340The key date is approval, 2027 September, right?
00:13:54.440And after a year-long and only a year-long review process.
00:13:58.980But, you know, I think Nigel hinted on it earlier on.1.00
00:14:02.520I think Smith, not a stupid woman.0.98
00:14:05.100she's obviously been optimistic about the pipeline all the way through she i think she's uh optimistic0.99
00:14:11.500she can find a proponent uh and i think she's optimistic that she's going to have a have a
00:14:17.420shovel ready proposal to to to give to ottawa to uh to approve by the end of the year uh and
00:14:25.100hopefully before the referendum and that kills off any hope of independence yes i don't believe
00:14:29.900whatsoever i mean the problem is another maybe another possibly another potential
00:14:35.420the movement needs a yes it needs to see dirt moving it needs to see not more pushing this
00:14:42.920this thing up i mean i could see progress on this slowing the movement absolutely but like as you
00:14:49.760said maybe knocking it down to 17 i think oh what would happen there's a 30 that are done they've
00:14:54.540had it they're ready to roll but it won't grow if it looks like there's progress on that i mean
00:15:00.700they could get to the referendum and it's going to be a 30 vote uh they're not going to get any
00:15:05.800closer to that 55 50 whatever they may think they need but they've got to see something
00:15:11.040well that's another question too i mean they the federal judges have better watch it because they
00:15:17.060might not care about alberta but when they tell us we can't do it they're also telling quebec they
00:15:22.020can't do it and they're scared to come back so there's there's a lot of stuff at play but i don't
00:15:27.300know if if the timeline works for premier smith right now she can't say well we got to defer this
00:15:31.980referendum until we get a positive thing out of the mou and all that they're not going to wait for
00:15:36.780that you know no no i wasn't suggesting that they defer the no i know the referendum that's still
00:15:42.280going to go ahead in in october but if substantial progress is made during that time between now and
00:15:48.640october you know look i mean independence has been the top total the top subject in alberta for
00:15:55.840a year now a couple years now and it has not moved the independence movement very much
00:16:01.020uh from uh you know from the high of the mid-30s that's maybe a lack of leadership but that's well
00:16:06.780yeah i mean that that is certainly the case it's it's it's 100 the case and and it's it's a lot
00:16:13.020easy to say you know when some random polling company calls you up and says yeah i've had
00:16:17.920enough i'm gonna vote to leave uh to leave canada it's tougher when you're in that ballot box and
00:16:23.360you're thinking wow this really could have the repercussions uh where's my canada pension check
00:16:29.200yeah where's my canada pension check and that's the thing i'm not seeing from the independence
00:16:34.400movement right now is any answers to any questions where's my pension check how is this going to work
00:16:40.800how is that going to work actually it's all posted in detail through multiple meetings and
00:16:44.560lawyers online but it doesn't seem to be getting it's not getting out the message isn't getting
00:16:48.720out so um but yeah there's a there's a lot to be done if they're looking to change things i i just
00:16:54.960the way the timeline is working i could see this if smith can balance it you've got to give him
00:17:00.000the question to get it a little you're a federalist i mean you got to be sick of this talk and if
00:17:03.920you're really that confident albertans don't want to go there's no other way to put it to bed
00:17:07.840put it to the vote let it loose and then you can move on if you're that confident
00:28:31.340what happens if they've got stuff up and running in two years and that you know it's like so we
00:28:35.020have to worry about market share and all of this and once you lose market share you're kind of
00:28:39.720hoping for like a catastrophe in iran to gain it back kind of a thing like you you lose market
00:28:45.400share it's hard to build it back and i i do worry about the future of our industry still to this
00:28:50.480day and i in my opinion the mou hasn't done anything to fix that the appetite for oil in
00:28:55.600Asia will be just increasing and increasing and increasing for the next several decades.
00:29:01.720Getting back to actually just a lot of something out of the blue that just kind of occurred to me
00:29:05.180though, we're looking at caucus divisions and possible ways that conservatives love to blow
00:29:09.120themselves up. A favorite is to form a new party. There's a lonely Pete Guthrie sitting over in the
00:29:15.100corner of the legislature who would certainly love to grab a couple of wayward ex-cabinet
00:29:18.960ministers or even other discontented people. Do you think there's any chance of that sort of
00:29:24.180gong show erupting no zero especially as they're both retiring or leaving politics they say but
00:29:31.260i mean you know we've heard liberals say they're going home to spend more time with their family
00:29:34.580and then discover they're not like their family when they find a better opportunity that is true
00:29:37.660warner coming out as a red tory uh would be quite damaging to him and drumheller stetler unless he
00:29:44.220wanted to switch ridings and run somewhere in central calgary for guthrie i don't i think
00:29:48.880corners uh i think he's retiring at the end of this term i think he'll be done um if he does go
00:29:54.220to the what are they calling themselves now the united tory party united tory party because they
00:29:58.860can't call themselves progressive like why don't they just call them the red tories like i mean
00:30:03.800like let's be real here so yeah no i i i don't i don't think i'm not worried about horner going to
00:30:11.660guthrie too much matt jones southeast calvary riding maybe he thinks he's got to play like if
00:30:16.440is one of those like if the reason he is quitting is because he thinks that this this entire situation
00:30:22.600is so damaging to his personal reputation that he has to exit stage right as fast as possible
00:30:28.520maybe i'm just looking at risks to parties right i mean one way you can maintain unity to a degree
00:30:32.600is if there's nowhere else for them to go yeah if there's not a home they can land in then yeah
00:30:37.640maybe they'll just go home as as it appears but i i can speak a little bit to this from like
00:30:43.720experience because i was helping rick strengthman in 2018 when derek fildebrandt came to us and
00:30:50.120said would you join the freedom conservative party sorry derek we said no um so it's one
00:30:55.720of those things where it's like yeah maybe there's a fit ideologically but from a political
00:31:01.080standpoint i don't know i don't see the tories going anywhere no no so narrowly with guthrie
00:31:06.680i just throw it out there i mean going back to our own experience too even prior to that
00:31:09.800show my grayness, but when we had a lone MLA in there with, with Paul Hinman,
00:31:15.160but these changed really fast or dramatically when suddenly we had Rob Anderson, we had Heather
00:31:19.160Forsyth, uh, and, uh, Guy Boulier. Yeah. And now suddenly you've got this corner in the legislature
00:31:24.920that's drawing funds and research and getting questions. It really only takes sometimes a seed
00:31:29.320and then you get a real headache. Though I like to remind all our listeners and everything,
00:31:32.840the ultimate end of that was four years of nothing. Yes. And then there was, but even when
00:31:37.160kenny merged the wild rose and pcs together there was that small little rump that from a
00:31:42.280job like rick fraser i think went and i don't know the sandra jansen ended up in the ndp yeah
00:31:49.400i mean but they had this little wrong so i mean it's it's a risk um it's always a risk to
00:31:57.400leave the government um but i don't know like it's it's going to be interesting to see how
00:32:02.840this develops over time and whether horner and uh jones just kind of sit quietly in in the back and
00:32:10.440work their way towards retirement i mean or if they do become thorns and public thorns in the
00:32:16.680side but i don't know i think they're in a difficult position because i mean what are
00:32:21.240they going to do endorse nenshi's position on on not having an independence referendum go ahead
00:32:28.120but one thing you can say about them because there is no pension for serving as an mla at
00:32:36.040least you can't throw that at any of them who they're not hanging on for the pension no they're
00:32:41.000not john give them credit for a little bit of uh what's what's the word uh dignity in their beliefs
00:32:50.040i'll give you credit for that yeah well let's turn the page a bit onto something that's been
00:32:54.040kind of emerging in the north uh sturgeon lake cree nation i believe they go by uh they're
00:32:59.960recently in the news because their chief was one of the ones challenging the the ability to hold
00:33:03.800the referendum appears they feel they may have found their own personal cantaloups yeah apparently
00:33:09.720the uh they're they're saying that they're uh they're missing 82 kids uh that went to the school
00:33:17.880in the last you know back in the in the olden days so to speak residential school
00:33:22.680and they think they found potential grave sites of 62 of them so cory here we go again
00:33:31.000uh we uh we interviewed frances widdowson uh on it today and she'll she says the exact same
00:33:37.560thing you will say the only way to deal with this is to excavate get a shovel
00:33:44.280so yeah i mean whether this is a uh a ruse to get money which the kamloops tribe0.81
00:33:52.200They certainly did. They got, I think, close to $13 million and haven't done anything with it, except I think they've opened up a museum or something.
00:34:01.780So whether this is just a ruse to get some more money, we'll have to see.
00:34:05.980We'll have to see if any level of government falls for it again.
00:34:10.420Well, I mean, the world doesn't seem to be falling for it this time, though, right?
00:34:14.100Like, I mean, we've got a jaundiced eye from the public, I think, at this point.
00:34:18.200it's only you know insensitive souls like me and francis widowson to come right out and say there's
00:34:23.420nobody buried in kamloops and and put that on but also those who really were saying banging that
00:34:28.160drum that there was people buried they've at least gone silent and this revelation from from sturgeon
00:34:33.820we're not hearing much of it if i could provide a suggestion to the university of lethbridge
00:34:39.420administration if you really want to uh save your reputation as an evidence-based institution you
00:34:46.600can fund the excavation yourself they kicked you out didn't they i know i graduated but they might
00:34:52.920take my degree can they do that could they take my degree back they could strike you off the rolls
00:34:59.640i don't know let's not keep on the universe it's not like you're doing much with it yeah exactly
00:35:08.280there's those different people shonegan lake celebrates that barry cooper went to their school
00:35:11.880i don't think they mentioned that i was yeah well nobody watches even derek so
00:35:19.720so here's the thing with this story from sturgeon lake are are the indigenous leadership out there
00:35:27.080claiming that these are children who were murdered or is it just that they they don't know which
00:35:35.320grave belongs to which paperwork because they're asking for the paperwork from the federal government
00:35:39.480need the records these are our children well you know the way things were done and 30 40 50 years
00:35:47.080ago the simple wooden cross that would have been placed upon the grave would have eventually rotted
00:35:53.320and withered and been cleaned up and sure enough there could well be graves there but does that
00:35:58.680does not mean that there is something terrible or malicious it merely means that eventually the
00:36:05.080grave became overgrown and uh but we knew that so-and-so died and that's where they that's where
00:36:13.400they put them somewhere over there there's no there's there's no doubt children died at indian
00:36:18.120residential schools but they had a little thing called the spanish flu to deal with they had
00:36:22.840tuberculosis to deal with and kids died of that right everywhere yeah well you know across canada0.89
00:36:30.040of people died from that not just indigenous children so yeah the life for a settler wasn't
00:36:35.140exactly you know what we have today i mean they were living on the land like i i mean i can look
00:36:40.420at my own family tree and i'll see you know kids died at 11 7 in 1919 or you know somebody fell off
00:36:48.940a bridge you're like i mean life was just more perilous and your mortality rates were higher i'd
00:36:53.860like to see the i mean they they're confident that 82 children have been located and maybe in 62 on
00:37:00.860mark graves at the site but again like are they saying that they were abused in the system and
00:37:07.060that the system is the reason that they died or is it just you know they're just even bringing it up
00:37:13.900that's what they're hoping people think oh they must have been they must have been murdered or
00:37:18.360anything like you know stuff like that but on the bright side we're not seeing mark carney with a
00:37:23.420little teddy bear on one knee uh ordering the uh flags to be lowered this time yeah that's what
00:37:29.680i'm saying is the world's not jumping to attention with this this time nearly as as much it's like a
00:37:35.500oh we'll see what happens no i don't i don't think you'll see any international media jumping on this
00:37:40.040one well it was originally a port uh reported by aptn news which is the group that's tied to the
00:37:46.860current uh we'll call it a developing scandal out of ottawa where a aptn news partnered with cbc
00:37:56.540entertainment division and uh brought dr francis widowson lindsey shepherd and a few others i think
00:38:03.020you covered it on your show earlier today corey so i mean i don't know if maybe this announcement
00:38:07.740is a direct reaction to that because they're wearing a bit of a black eye right now publicly
00:38:12.220and it's coming from aptn news like this is not being reported related to what their beat
00:38:17.500ostensibly would be too they are the aboriginal networks so but i mean they'd be the first to
00:38:22.540get on that i guess i noticed on the story as well though that the rcmp has said that yeah
00:38:26.860we're not having anything to do with this that's a note that a lot of people don't mention but the
00:38:31.420reason that the rcmp never dug in kamloops is because there's no evidence of murders you know
00:38:37.180the rcmp's mandate i mean people we've seen all those stories twists and turns oh culturally
00:38:41.340they're not allowed to in it no no it doesn't work that way i can't murder somebody bury them
00:38:44.940on a reserve and say sorry it's all done you can't go they will go in yeah they will exhume
00:38:48.940and they will arrest or investigate but if there's no evidence that there was actually a crime yeah
00:38:53.500they're not going to spend the resources and the time to dig a hole oh that's the sandbox is0.92
00:38:57.900bullshit well i i'm not taking that bet hey just because derek's here doesn't mean you can't swear0.54
00:39:03.340oh sorry you see it looked like john could get away without having to edit and and you didn't0.97
00:39:08.380even give them that one week breeder man sorry guys sorry what if you would have thought it'd
00:39:15.900be me who would have done that i actually was expecting it i had to yeah call yourself a fire
00:39:21.500warden all right well let's see we're getting into the last few minutes here uh we'll see what
00:39:28.060happens up in sturgeon lake i mean you know it's not impossible but we just need to see more evidence
00:39:33.180you know more than just that's all anybody has ever asked for show us the evidence and then
00:39:38.220they'll take it from the league zoom do it as donald trump said dig baby dig yeah something
00:39:45.180like that uh maybe they'll find hoffa all right never know so we'll start with some parting shots
00:39:55.020on that uh note of tastelessness uh sure i'll give you one so i have quite a few people from
00:40:02.860the military environment to email me what what's going on in the military and i guess it's uh
00:40:09.580i guess it's really hard if you're a white guy to join the army they they'll take your
00:40:15.340application but they'll put in a separate pile while they go off to find the people they want
00:40:20.540to hire so that there is this picture of the armed services as a microcosm of the society
00:40:29.020they want canada to become so if they're you know every demographic group is percentage-wise
00:40:38.300represented so what what the emails coming in are saying is that in order to get
00:40:43.980the visible minority proportion that they want for canada they have been recruiting
00:40:51.660and the deal is that if you sign the if you take the king's shilling you'll get canadian
00:40:56.300citizenship they've been recruiting in cameroon and ivory coast so you have to ask yourself
00:41:03.500what kind of a cruel joke this is on everybody involved but in order to get the candidate you
00:41:09.980want represented in the armed forces you have to go abroad to find one of these and one of those
00:41:15.900and we need some from this country so that you have the appearance what a way to run an army0.75
00:41:22.620we're gonna lose a war well yeah like what happens like do they speak english no so like
00:41:27.820what happens if like it well some of them speak french well they're coming from french okay so
00:41:32.220we've got like we now need all of our like lieutenants all the way up to generals to speak
00:41:39.740every language you know message across after colonel i believe you have to be bilingual but
00:41:44.460you like when you get to carol just so you know the rules you're not allowed to comment on people's
00:41:48.780parting shots oh sorry they're going a long time yeah i know you're a newbie
00:41:56.220interesting and no swearing yeah all right well what have you got josh it's a party um
00:42:02.780not much it's been a crazy week uh i'm interested to see the rest of the cabinet shuffle um we know
00:42:10.700obviously the two names that are leaving we're pretty confident that jason nixon is the one
00:42:16.700going in i'd be interested to see whether uh some other ministers are shuffled around tomorrow
00:42:21.980um that's something i'm keeping an eye on um and and then obviously the big news will be the
00:42:28.060independence referendum um and presuming just presuming that that is what uh premier smith's
00:42:35.500addressed to the province is about tomorrow so yeah i'll be keeping an eye on that but i don't
00:42:40.140have much else great i'm going to steal one that nigel had in mind and i hope i can remember it
00:42:46.300word for word because it was pretty good uh we heard news this week that the snowballs snowballs
00:42:53.100see even i did it the snowbirds uh jet acrobatic team uh being uh mothballed i mean the planes
00:43:02.620are old there's no doubt about that they're they're falling apart there's no doubt about that
00:43:07.180but apparently they're being replaced by prop planes so only in canada do you go from a jet
00:43:14.940airplane to a prop airplane and call it progress yeah certainly moving forward how'd i do there
00:43:20.460nigel i remember pretty well you you got it exactly yeah all right well i'll close it off
00:43:25.100just something i ranted a bit on my own show but still floored me i don't know why i allow myself
00:43:28.460to get floored anymore but let's talk about the beauty of state-funded media the bbc put out this
00:43:34.140sob story with the sad looking man if you look it up online saying he's selling children selling
00:43:41.100children to survive, Afghan fathers forced to make impossible choices. So they're talking about,
00:43:45.600and they profiled a couple, a gentleman was selling two of his daughters, this gentleman's
00:43:48.800selling one of his daughters, because they can't make ends meet, and they're poor, and they're
00:43:52.560going to sell their five-year-olds into sexual servitude, and apparently it happens all over0.82
00:43:56.100Afghanistan. The BBC paints it as if this is a tragedy that these guys were courted into,
00:44:01.180despite, I don't recall, the Irish potato famine fathers selling their daughters or anybody else,
00:44:05.100it seems to be kind of unique to Afghanistan. How low do you have to get to try and put a0.60
00:44:10.560sympathetic eye on men who are selling their