In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, I sit down with Dan McTeague, a former Liberal MP and head of Canadians for Affordable Energy, to talk all things Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau. We talk about the new Prime Minister's first few days in office, his first foreign trip to Europe, and why the media should be scared to ask him questions in public.
00:14:32.140He's no quite familiar with campaigns, been through his share of them,
00:14:36.600watches politics closely and is very outspoken on x and on his website and in media in general and
00:14:41.820that's dan mcteague of the canadians for a formal for canadians for affordable energy that tongue
00:14:47.900twister going on there also a former liberal member of parliament from back in the days when
00:14:53.480the liberals were much more respectable than they are today so thanks for coming by again dan it's
00:14:57.600been a while always a pleasure yeah it's good to be here and uh yeah some days i think i wonder
00:15:01.660where this party's going but it's definitely not the party i remember so uh let's have at it
00:15:05.680Yeah, well, I mean, something interesting that's kind of developed is we've evolved into a two-party system, in a way, for the first time in a long, long time.
00:15:14.540That's part of what's kind of boded poorly for the Conservatives, because the NDP are barely a factor anymore.
00:15:20.520Yeah, and it's almost trading positions compared to where they were, say, 10, 15 years ago, and it was the Liberal Party that morphed into the NDP.
00:15:27.760I lost that election after six successful runs, and now it's the other way around.
00:15:33.820So it looks like the voters in the center left can't control themselves.
00:15:39.020You're either a socialist or you're a grifter or you happen to be, you know, someone who follows a certain particular, you know, warped ideology.
00:15:47.580Whether it's a new Democrat or liberal, it looks like I can't tell the difference.
00:16:58.640It's now 2025 to do a spin on Trudeau's old comments, and people are really ticked.
00:17:03.840And, you know, the extent to which Mr. Carney is going to try to distinguish himself from his signature policy, which is carbon taxes under net zero, really bears a lot of scrutiny.
00:17:13.420Up until he became leader, we were surprised at the number of things that he took credit for, including, of course, but not limited to the 1998 balancing of the budget, where I was a member of Parliament.
00:17:24.460that's news to me, saved the country from the global economic meltdown in 2008.
00:17:30.940You know, of course, this is a fellow who did wonderful things in Britain, left nice and early.
00:17:35.020However, despite all that he has said and has been challenged by a very, you know, weak leadership campaign,
00:17:41.280probably the weakest I've seen in my lifetime, and a media that really hasn't held his feet to the fire,
00:17:47.200we now see him trying to attempt to basically pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
00:17:52.420Now, you want to be really, really clear about this.
00:18:54.080And I think that gives people like Carney room to sort of pull the wool over their eyes, as you said, because people's eyes are all over the place.
00:19:01.140They don't even know where to focus anymore.
00:19:02.380They just want to see stability, even if it's fake.
00:19:05.480Well, they can't reward people who've been giving us bad service for the past several years.
00:19:09.580I take notice of the fact that Donald Trump seems to be endorsing Mark Carney over Pierre Paulingham.
00:19:13.840I think that's a great thing, and it'll go hand in hand with all the Canadians who've suddenly rediscovered their nation.
00:19:19.240You know, elbows up nonsense and, you know, the Canadian flag and buying Canadian.
00:19:24.360Where the hell were you for the past 10 years when you've denigrated the nation, when you tore down statues, when you poured paint on top of them, when you were ashamed of your past, when you bent a knee?0.59
00:19:33.040I mean, look, Canadians have really got to think about the scoring.
00:19:36.600It's not just about the politicians, it's about Canadians who really need to smarten it up and bring their game up a little higher.
00:19:41.780because at this point it seems to me as someone who's experienced in the trenches knocking on tens
00:19:45.940of thousands of doors here in eastern canada there's been a degradation not in the quality
00:19:49.940of our politicians we can always argue with that the quality of the of the of the constituent are
00:19:54.740they really that gullible that they can be fleeced into buying another four years of something they
00:20:00.100can't afford it seems that way but i think it's going to change i think once uh there's fair uh
00:20:05.220and you know balance between the two operating parties the liberals in the end and the conservatives
00:20:10.100in the next election, I think it's going to, Canadians are going to finally get what they've
00:20:14.160been paying for for several years. And that's a real honest answer on these things, especially
00:20:17.620on the carbon tax, where it needs to be scrapped, along with the net zero fantasies that are very
00:20:22.100pernicious to Canada, while the Liberals can spend the next four or five terms rebuilding
00:20:26.040themselves and getting back to the centre where they were when I was an MP. Yeah, well, and back
00:20:30.500to energy and back to kind of this new discovery, it seems a lot of progressive Canadians and net
00:20:34.960zero people and all the rest have suddenly realised that maybe getting more pipelines to the
00:20:39.780coasts might be a good idea something albert has been screaming from the rafters for over a decade
00:20:44.480now but i to be honest i don't believe them when they say they're going to expand them i really do
00:20:49.340not it doesn't gel with their net zero ideology i mean they'll claim it right now but i don't see
00:20:54.240them doing it if they manage to get in for another term they'll just regulate it to death again0.96
00:20:57.540yeah well you know what's the good of building a pipeline if you're not prepared to put anything
00:21:01.460within it i mean if you cut you cap your natural gas you cap your oil and you put emissions on it
00:21:06.080so that i mean the pbo the parliamentary budget officer came out and said this is going to have
00:21:09.340a catastrophic effect not just on alberta and producers provinces but to the entire country as
00:21:14.100a whole look canadians really have to get up their game i mean i heard this nonsense from the left and
00:21:19.200from the greenies saying for the years oh we should refine our own all of our own oil and then i said
00:21:23.640well how the hell are you going to get it to market if you still have a problem you can't pipeline it
00:21:26.460anywhere what are you supposed to do drive it by truck maybe in the back of an oxen cart because
00:21:30.420that's what we're going to and i i'm being pedantical about those things but i also want to
00:21:34.400make it very clear my engagement with the public isn't really about worrying about the politicians
00:21:38.820the media my engagement is with direct with canadians do not be sold a bill of goods as you
00:21:44.180have been for the past several years wake the hell up do some research understand why your standard
00:21:49.460living has collapsed and it has collapsed there isn't a single canadian who can argue right now1.00
00:21:53.940that they don't think things are worse now than what they were 10 years ago and that's because
00:21:57.300we have a reckless and irresponsible government that has found uh this country ability to spend
00:22:02.420that we didn't need to spend on and for which we have destroyed our ability the golden goose of
00:22:06.900fuel oil and gas but manufacturing as well and we've invested money in things like electric
00:22:11.100vehicles for god's sakes we put up tariffs against the chinese who've had a 10 year 15 years1.00
00:22:15.200advantage and what's that doing in return it's killing our pork producers it's hurting our
00:22:19.880canola producers it's hurting our agri-food agriculture sector there isn't nothing this
00:22:24.620government's touch that hasn't hurt the canadian public and if you want more of that if you think
00:22:28.520you can afford more of that talk to your kids talk to your grandchildren and talk to your
00:22:31.940neighbor for goodness sakes because everybody's in very very dire straits right now oh yeah it's
00:22:36.200absurd and nobody's even talking about lifting that ridiculous tariff on Chinese EVs which
00:22:41.520weren't cutting into a market that Canada even has. Sylvain Charlebois put it excellently online
00:22:46.000saying you know we're killing our local farmers to protect an imaginary industry. It's nuts and
00:22:52.840again if Carney was this financial genius you'd think one of the first things he'd be saying is
00:22:57.260we're going to put a call out to China and resolve this trade war right away because their demand is
00:23:01.280simple. Trump you don't know what the heck that guy wants hour by hour but China is pretty
00:23:04.900straightforward it just dropped the bloody tariff on our evs and we'll back off on the canola and
00:23:09.780seed oils and other such things but they aren't talking that way you know uh cory on the weekend
00:23:15.020i decided to take a trip down here so i'll drive my daughter back to a university i came across the
00:23:20.000kami plant which builds something called the uh bright drop it's a van a delivery van basically
00:23:25.840it was supposed to sell and they're all electric vehicles gm put in a 1.8 billion bucks you and i's
00:23:30.920taxpayers, another couple billion bucks, federal and provincial. And they were supposed to sell
00:23:35.160100,000 units. They sold 2,100 units. And of course, the plant is likely to go belly up anytime
00:23:42.200soon, along with the North Volts, along with the Lion Battery, the Lion Buses, all of these other0.60
00:23:47.060things. I'm here not far from Oakville. I can see the smokestacks from here for the old Oakville
00:23:52.640plant. They're supposed to be an EV plant, now turned into an F-250, F-350 plant. But you're
00:23:57.440We're looking at a situation where we backed the wrong horse and we continue to make these bad decisions on the assumption that even though the United States has ended its EV mandates, even though Canadians are no longer getting subsidized for buying these things, we can still build them because we're trying to pretend that there's a market that exists.
00:24:14.540it doesn't. I'm not offended by people who drive EVs. That's up to you. If you want to drive one,
00:24:18.560that's great. Not so great, by the way, when it's minus 20 here in Ontario or minus 40 where you
00:24:23.140guys are. But at any rate, if you think you have the electrical infrastructure and the bottomless
00:24:28.920pit when it comes to subsidies and government debt to pay for these things, I think people
00:24:32.620really need to elude or get rid of their delving into illusions because this is the worst public
00:24:39.120policy decision I think we've made. It's on top of the carbon tax policy. And it really speaks to
00:24:43.760the fact that if we put emission caps at all of these other wonderful things coming down the pipe
00:24:47.300from net zero, unless some people get serious about nixing net zero, this country might as well
00:24:52.320think about nixing its economic future very quickly. Yeah, well, in part, of course, that's
00:24:56.420just your whole, you let us know all the time. I mean, that's your basis of being energy,
00:25:00.660affordable energy. It impacts everything, everything, every consumer product you get,
00:25:05.380your paycheck every day, the taxes that the government takes, it's all based on energy.
00:25:09.360There's no one commodity that impacts everything across the blanket as much as energy.
00:25:14.620Canada should be an energy superpower.
00:25:16.480I mean, we've got so much for resources, whether it's hydroelectric, whether it's uranium, whether it's natural gas, whether it's you name it.
00:25:25.020Yet we just seem to be intent on hamstringing ourselves.
00:25:30.340Do you think, though, we could change this into an election about energy?
00:25:33.580Because right now they're all campaigning against Trump.
00:25:35.760And while that might be effective in the short term on polls, it's not going to help us with our economy.
00:25:42.680No, but the ironic that it's taken Donald Trump to make us appreciate our country and finally want to build pipelines.
00:25:47.840But look, I worked with Sylvain Charlotte a while on a project not too long ago in which he said, look, the carbon taxes aren't just hitting energy prices.
00:25:54.640As I had suggested several years ago, it's going to affect everything else, including the cost of food.
00:25:58.460And guess what? Pushing back against our traditional economists, the usual suspects that we have out there,
00:26:04.960had paid lots of money for the federal government to basically polish the apple of all this carbon
00:26:09.920nonsense and net zero nonsense. He came out and said, I got two peer-reviewed studies that point
00:26:14.860out that the effect of carbon taxes and government policy to try to green everything and fault Canada
00:26:19.960for creating all the CO2 in the world that, by the way, is a giver of life and is plant food for
00:26:25.340all intents and purposes, regardless of that, came with two peer-reviewed studies to basically show
00:26:29.560it to these wonderful economists, a lot of them from Alberta, I think Trom and I guess the other
00:26:33.720leach and others that keep coming out and saying oh there's no effect baloney anybody who's shopping
00:26:38.920in this country today where they're trying to make ends meet knows full well what's happened
00:26:41.960and you don't have to just argue or have a discussion with the people who do the food
00:26:45.560purchasing the house i do some of it here go to the food banks and understand just how bad the
00:26:49.560situation has become this should not have happened in our canada anybody who tolerates that might i
00:26:54.360suggest that you get yourself a brown paper bag put it over your head because you've got to be
00:26:57.720ashamed of yourself for being so ridiculous yeah it was interesting watching mr charlebois uh dr
00:27:02.600I should be correct with it and having kind of the geek fight online with other economists because he did call them out.
00:27:08.380And the thing that he did point out was all of the ones he's fighting with got government funding one way or another.
00:27:13.640Exactly. Boy, they sure got furious when he pointed that out.
00:27:16.540Yeah, no. And you know what? I'm sick of it because it seems the only people backing this kind of stuff is paid media, paid academics, paid influencers.
00:27:25.520And where's it coming from? It's coming from the bottom line of people who are now getting ready to have to pay next month their income taxes, assuming, of course, they can make ends meet.
00:27:32.600this is disgusting this is wrong they are robbing peter to pay paul and at the end of the day
00:27:37.640i've got a very simple solution stop paying them you want to you listen you got a great idea it's
00:27:41.960like jean cretin said about cutting back on programs in the 1990s i think it was naxa national
00:27:46.200action committee on status of women he cut their budget he said we don't have money for this stuff
00:27:49.800he said if it's an important issue go out and fund yourself and that's what these people should do
00:27:53.400rather than coming out pretending that they can use their academic credentials to bamboozle us
00:27:58.280into believing that we're somehow getting a deal and in fact we're being pleased yeah well it's
00:28:02.120It's going to be on people like yourself and even us over here,
00:28:04.540I think over the course of the next 40 days or so,
00:28:06.480just to try our hardest to keep things on the right discussion
00:42:12.400But even the Reform Party, we'd go all the way back and take myself into the 90s, you know, Deb Gray and a bunch of them at first refused to take the pension plan.
00:42:22.260But once they were in office for a couple of terms, they all just kind of slowly slid in and took the pension.
00:42:27.820I don't know if anybody's ever going to have the courage to cut into that because once they're in, of course, it cuts into their own wallet.
00:42:32.620Self-serving politicians, you know, again, they should be paid well.
00:42:38.260But, I mean, you know, keep it simple then.
00:42:40.120Just when you're paid that much, at best, they should just have an RRSP matching program or something for the time that they're in.
00:42:46.640There, you know, every year you can put this much of your salary in and the government match.
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