Protesters Call for Review of Gender-Related Care for Minors
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Summary
A trans rights activist and a counter-demonstrator join forces at a protest in support of a ban on so-called "sex reassignment surgeries" and hormone replacement therapy in Canada. In this episode, we hear from both sides of the story. We speak with the organizer of the protest, Jeff Evely, and counter-protester Scott Nugent.
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Robert Krejcik here in Ottawa, Ontario at Parliament Hill for the Western Standard reporting on this
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demonstration led by Jeff Evely called the Mayday protest. Basically, it's a demonstration in
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opposition to what I refer to as the transgender enterprise. Basically, this apparatus of
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government and related institutions which promotes a denial of human sexual dimorphism,
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and then on top of that promotes so-called gender-affirming treatments in the forms of
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surgeries and hormonal interventions in order to treat this issue. Now, Jeff Evely, we spoke with
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him. We got some of his remarks. We spoke with some other people as well in terms of getting
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their points of view as to why they're here, what they seek to achieve. We also spoke with
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a counter-demonstrator who described himself as a trans rights activist to make sure we're
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getting both sides of the story. My name is Jeff Evely. I'm a 20-year veteran of the Canadian
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Armed Forces with deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq. I am the primary organizer for this event
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called Mayday Kids in Crisis. This is our keynote speaker. My name is Scott Nugent. I'm a medically
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transitioned transgender adult in the United States. I helped write the first bill that has
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passed in 27 states to ban the medicalization of gender-confused children. While in Iraq,
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my daughter turned 16, the legal age of consent in Ontario, Chiyo started calling her phone
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directly to tell her she didn't need my permission anymore, she could come back to the gender
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clinic to continue down the path of medical gender transition.
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I took early leave from my tour to attend an appointment with Dr. Steven Fetter.
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He immediately offered puberty blockers, stating that they would pause her puberty and that
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My daughter had cut her hair short again just to attend this appointment.
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the course of several consultations with dr fetter two of which i recorded he confessed to me that
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he had absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support his assessment but that he had looked into my
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daughter's heart and soul to determine that she was actually a male when i asked how he knew that
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the soul existed he said quote i don't have to answer that question i have a fire that one day
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we will look at a child who's different and say you are not wrong you are perfect needed wanted
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just the way you are a fire that one day we will protect the most vulnerable among us and not turn
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them into lifelong patients because let's be honest there is a cost a cost that's not just
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in dollars though the billions are rising funding non-profits and social media influencers to the
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elite one percent of our society draining dollars from people who don't understand what they're
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promoting or what they're donating to the dollars are not just in the medical
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field they are entrenched in a new infrastructure of how we communicate now
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as human beings social media a new market with the return on investment is
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to make our children sick in their mind body and soul the cost the cost is in
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lives the cost is in broken futures a cost in children who may never grow up
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up to be who they were meant to be and i ask you if an adult like me could be convinced
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if an adult like me could be vulnerable to the promise of a quick fix of fitting in then what
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chance does a 14 year old have what chance does a 12 year old have what chance does an eight year
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old have when the world around them says you are not enough the way you are so i'm here with kelly
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kelly lynn kelly lynn is the founder of d trans alliance canada correct so kelly lynn why don't
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you tell us what is that organization what is its purpose and why did you found it it's a grassroots
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organization outreaching to other d transitioners in canada it was founded to give people a place
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to meet each other get together we do advocacy for medical care the legal issues are being
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recognized as de-transitioners speaking out about the difficulty with getting mental health care as
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a de-transitioner because of the conversion therapy ban i have to go to the united states
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to get mental health care because they can't legally give me because i've been a detransit
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a transitioner so to counsel me to be comfortable being a woman is illegal in this country there's
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There's a legal prohibition on the health care that you're seeking to obtain.
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I've just heard it called the conversion therapy ban.
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Like you can groom a child to be uncomfortable with its gender, to be uncomfortable with being a boy or a girl.
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but once they've been entered into that gauntlet, you cannot counsel them to be comfortable with
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being a boy or a girl. Are there situations in which these medications that obstruct pubescence
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or surgical alterations for cosmetic shifts, are they ever okay for people? Are they ever
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beneficial in treating that person's dysphoria or condition?
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my experience was no um there are people who say that it helps them but the statistics say that
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the farther a person goes down the process the less happy they are and we know that especially
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with the genital surgeries that that undermines their physical health my answer to that is that
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there is no hard science saying it helps so the main purpose of me being here to counter protest
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is to fight for the inclusion of trans people as the mayday group is anti-trans they're pro
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de-transitioning and i think people should be able to do what they feel most comfortable
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that makes them be themselves this group here the mayday group was cautioning against
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what they argue are the dangers of childhood transition do they have a point about that
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is there something to that uh i think you should always be checking with the doctors on what they
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say but uh i don't think the dangers that they're saying are legitimate i think they're very
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sensationalized and overblown and i think things like puberty blockers are perfectly normal
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perfectly normal can you elaborate on that are you saying there's no concern over let's say
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long-term health damage with respect to those products uh i don't personally subscribe to any
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long-term uh adverse effects to that i think it's if it makes you comfortable with yourself that's
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the most important thing we met a lady here and she described herself as a detransitioner
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do people who've gone through that process um did they have a point is there something to that should
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detransition not be done sure i think everyone's got their own right to have their opinion uh if
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someone is a became trans lived like that for a while and then decided it wasn't for them that's
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perfectly okay but i don't think it's right to go based off of your personal experience to tell
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people that they can't do that so that's my main point is that they want to put blanket
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it bans on things when I think there should be individual choice.