Western Standard - May 06, 2026


Protesters Call for Review of Gender-Related Care for Minors


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00:00:00.000 Robert Krejcik here in Ottawa, Ontario at Parliament Hill for the Western Standard reporting on this
00:00:10.800 demonstration led by Jeff Evely called the Mayday protest. Basically, it's a demonstration in
00:00:17.760 opposition to what I refer to as the transgender enterprise. Basically, this apparatus of
00:00:23.200 government and related institutions which promotes a denial of human sexual dimorphism,
00:00:28.880 and then on top of that promotes so-called gender-affirming treatments in the forms of
00:00:34.180 surgeries and hormonal interventions in order to treat this issue. Now, Jeff Evely, we spoke with
00:00:40.160 him. We got some of his remarks. We spoke with some other people as well in terms of getting
00:00:43.980 their points of view as to why they're here, what they seek to achieve. We also spoke with
00:00:48.500 a counter-demonstrator who described himself as a trans rights activist to make sure we're
00:00:54.900 getting both sides of the story. My name is Jeff Evely. I'm a 20-year veteran of the Canadian
00:01:01.200 Armed Forces with deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq. I am the primary organizer for this event
00:01:06.120 called Mayday Kids in Crisis. This is our keynote speaker. My name is Scott Nugent. I'm a medically
00:01:12.520 transitioned transgender adult in the United States. I helped write the first bill that has
00:01:17.600 passed in 27 states to ban the medicalization of gender-confused children. While in Iraq,
00:01:23.460 my daughter turned 16, the legal age of consent in Ontario, Chiyo started calling her phone
00:01:28.300 directly to tell her she didn't need my permission anymore, she could come back to the gender
00:01:32.420 clinic to continue down the path of medical gender transition.
00:01:35.560 I took early leave from my tour to attend an appointment with Dr. Steven Fetter.
00:01:41.280 He immediately offered puberty blockers, stating that they would pause her puberty and that
00:01:45.440 they were completely reversible. 0.76
00:01:47.580 My daughter had cut her hair short again just to attend this appointment.
00:01:53.180 the course of several consultations with dr fetter two of which i recorded he confessed to me that
00:01:58.380 he had absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support his assessment but that he had looked into my
00:02:03.020 daughter's heart and soul to determine that she was actually a male when i asked how he knew that
00:02:08.300 the soul existed he said quote i don't have to answer that question i have a fire that one day
00:02:13.580 we will look at a child who's different and say you are not wrong you are perfect needed wanted
00:02:19.900 just the way you are a fire that one day we will protect the most vulnerable among us and not turn
00:02:26.460 them into lifelong patients because let's be honest there is a cost a cost that's not just
00:02:33.340 in dollars though the billions are rising funding non-profits and social media influencers to the
00:02:39.020 elite one percent of our society draining dollars from people who don't understand what they're
00:02:43.740 promoting or what they're donating to the dollars are not just in the medical
00:02:49.800 field they are entrenched in a new infrastructure of how we communicate now
00:02:53.400 as human beings social media a new market with the return on investment is
00:02:58.380 to make our children sick in their mind body and soul the cost the cost is in
00:03:07.060 lives the cost is in broken futures a cost in children who may never grow up
00:03:13.380 up to be who they were meant to be and i ask you if an adult like me could be convinced
00:03:19.460 if an adult like me could be vulnerable to the promise of a quick fix of fitting in then what
00:03:25.780 chance does a 14 year old have what chance does a 12 year old have what chance does an eight year
00:03:31.620 old have when the world around them says you are not enough the way you are so i'm here with kelly
00:03:38.020 kelly lynn kelly lynn is the founder of d trans alliance canada correct so kelly lynn why don't
00:03:43.940 you tell us what is that organization what is its purpose and why did you found it it's a grassroots
00:03:50.740 organization outreaching to other d transitioners in canada it was founded to give people a place
00:03:57.300 to meet each other get together we do advocacy for medical care the legal issues are being
00:04:06.820 recognized as de-transitioners speaking out about the difficulty with getting mental health care as
00:04:17.380 a de-transitioner because of the conversion therapy ban i have to go to the united states
00:04:22.900 to get mental health care because they can't legally give me because i've been a detransit
00:04:29.220 a transitioner so to counsel me to be comfortable being a woman is illegal in this country there's
00:04:35.620 There's a legal prohibition on the health care that you're seeking to obtain.
00:04:39.380 This, as you put it, conversion therapy.
00:04:43.600 Is there another term that's used for that?
00:04:45.780 The conversion therapy ban?
00:04:47.580 Yeah.
00:04:48.120 I've just heard it called the conversion therapy ban.
00:04:50.920 But it goes one way.
00:04:54.020 Like you can groom a child to be uncomfortable with its gender, to be uncomfortable with being a boy or a girl.
00:05:00.020 but once they've been entered into that gauntlet, you cannot counsel them to be comfortable with
00:05:06.720 being a boy or a girl. Are there situations in which these medications that obstruct pubescence
00:05:13.020 or surgical alterations for cosmetic shifts, are they ever okay for people? Are they ever
00:05:19.240 beneficial in treating that person's dysphoria or condition?
00:05:23.420 my experience was no um there are people who say that it helps them but the statistics say that
00:05:37.280 the farther a person goes down the process the less happy they are and we know that especially
00:05:43.300 with the genital surgeries that that undermines their physical health my answer to that is that
00:05:50.840 there is no hard science saying it helps so the main purpose of me being here to counter protest
00:05:56.280 is to fight for the inclusion of trans people as the mayday group is anti-trans they're pro
00:06:04.200 de-transitioning and i think people should be able to do what they feel most comfortable
00:06:08.600 that makes them be themselves this group here the mayday group was cautioning against
00:06:13.800 what they argue are the dangers of childhood transition do they have a point about that
00:06:19.080 is there something to that uh i think you should always be checking with the doctors on what they
00:06:25.000 say but uh i don't think the dangers that they're saying are legitimate i think they're very
00:06:30.920 sensationalized and overblown and i think things like puberty blockers are perfectly normal
00:06:38.520 perfectly normal can you elaborate on that are you saying there's no concern over let's say
00:06:42.520 long-term health damage with respect to those products uh i don't personally subscribe to any
00:06:47.240 long-term uh adverse effects to that i think it's if it makes you comfortable with yourself that's
00:06:52.760 the most important thing we met a lady here and she described herself as a detransitioner
00:06:58.200 do people who've gone through that process um did they have a point is there something to that should
00:07:03.800 detransition not be done sure i think everyone's got their own right to have their opinion uh if
00:07:08.440 someone is a became trans lived like that for a while and then decided it wasn't for them that's
00:07:13.160 perfectly okay but i don't think it's right to go based off of your personal experience to tell
00:07:18.040 people that they can't do that so that's my main point is that they want to put blanket
00:07:23.720 it bans on things when I think there should be individual choice.