Western Standard - Putting Remigration back on the agenda

00:00:00.000 Good day, I'm Derek Vildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.

00:00:27.840 Today is January 29th, 2026.

00:00:32.040 In Calgary here, we have a lot of visitors pouring into town as the Conservative Convention begins today, stretching into Saturday.

00:00:41.020 One person coming into town who the party brass is probably less happy to see is Daniel Tyree.

00:00:48.900 He is the founder of the Dominion Society, a group of, I don't know what to call them,

00:00:56.240 agitators, provocateurs, maybe they have nicer titles than that, but who is in town to try

00:01:02.680 to stir up the regular boring party procedures that's going on at the convention, and he's

00:01:10.320 joined me in studio here today.

00:01:12.320 Thanks for having me on, Derek.

00:01:13.480 Provocateur, agitator, I don't know, is that a fair way to describe you?

00:01:17.060 Yeah, I'd accept that.

00:01:18.900 Okay. What's your official

00:01:20.800 title? I'm the chairman and founder of the

00:01:22.680 Dominion Society. Okay.

00:01:25.080 I remember when the Dominion Society

00:01:26.620 launched around a year ago,

00:01:28.740 it's... Six months. Just six months.

00:01:30.860 Yeah, you're right. Okay, six months ago.

00:01:34.040 I guess

00:01:34.660 you've had some impact in six months. We'll talk

00:01:36.620 about that impact a little bit, but

00:01:37.760 I remember one of our reporters

00:01:40.660 in the newsroom behind me here just did

00:01:42.620 a very plain, just the facts

00:01:44.720 story. It was

00:01:46.180 this group is being founded, here's

00:01:48.620 the people here's what they say they're about and uh the so-called anti-hate network lost its

00:01:54.600 mind like this is the fourth reich coming it's these guys are uh are evil and they're gonna

00:02:00.980 kill people and they demanded an explanation from us about why not just we wrote a story but like 0.69

00:02:06.460 why you introduced your readers to these people and i i told them uh i were on youtube i could 0.99

00:02:11.760 say i told them to go fuck themselves so um uh so i mean like right out of the gate i guess you guys 0.94

00:02:17.640 had some had some impact uh or at least raised raised some higher uh tell me what this uh the 0.99

00:02:24.100 dominion society is about we're uh we're an advocacy group and we advocate on behalf of

00:02:29.660 what we call heritage canadian so we're a group of canadian nationalists and our goal is to

00:02:33.380 normalize these ideas this nationalist worldview and specifically the uh the concept of remigration

00:02:39.860 i i talk about remigration fairly often enough but under but i guess it can mean different

00:02:47.100 things there's probably different levels or degrees of remigration uh as you see remigration

00:02:53.200 how would you define it what's your goal of remigration so remigration is the the only real

00:02:58.580 solution to the mass immigration crisis that has been imposed on us by the liberal government

00:03:02.100 it's the it's a comprehensive set of policies set to reverse the flows of mass immigration

00:03:07.060 in order to maintain canada's ethno-cultural identity how do we do that well we again there's

00:03:14.440 There's degrees about how hard we take that.

00:03:16.500 There's light re-migration and there's very, very hard.

00:03:20.820 There's a spectrum about how hard we go.

00:03:22.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:22.640 We offer a 10-step plan on our website, a three-phase 10-step plan ranging from things like an immigration moratorium, a complete shutting down of incoming migration, temporary and permanent, as well as shifts to all sorts of programs.

00:03:38.440 So if we want to cancel the temporary foreign worker program, we want to completely reform the asylum system.

00:03:44.440 to cut down all these free handouts and stuff and remove a lot of these pull

00:03:48.260 factors that are encouraging people to come here for kind of a free ride.

00:03:51.740 But also we're looking into solutions to kind of enforce kind of cultural

00:03:56.960 standards, taking inspiration from what we've seen from Quebec language

00:04:01.160 standards, standards around kind of religious symbols and public spaces and

00:04:06.080 public service,

00:04:07.740 but also changing laws around permanent residency and even naturalized

00:04:13.880 citizenship to allow the government to revoke these things in certain situations especially

00:04:18.740 in in situations uh to maintain our social cohesion and national security uh i know this is

00:04:27.040 i don't mean this is a gotcha question i mean it in good faith um and it's a broad question but

00:04:32.640 who do we want to remigrate like at what point we go back uh you know we've had uh i'm not one of

00:04:41.560 these people applies to overall immigrants no someone who landed here in a nearly unpopulated

00:04:46.520 frozen frontier and hacked a civilization out of the wilderness is is not an immigrant well said 1.00

00:04:51.920 uh they're they're a pioneer uh they're a colonizer in a good sense of the word i mean

00:04:56.340 i don't mean it as a pejorative term i'm like no that's a great thing yeah best thing they ever

00:05:00.000 have in a candidate yeah um so you know i i guess i might use the same term i just don't mean it

00:05:04.540 pejoratively uh we we own it um what's up my colonizer um but um you know but then we did have

00:05:14.380 waves of immigrants you know ukrainians scots germans over time you know how far back do you 1.00

00:05:21.000 want to go where we kind of draw the line and say okay at this point we kind of had enough

00:05:24.720 and we need to remigrate to that point i'm very focused on what we call the trudeau wave

00:05:30.660 So this is the millions of migrants that came over the last kind of 10 years under Justin Trudeau, people that are the second Trudeau wave.

00:05:39.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's when things really fell off the rails.

00:05:43.280 We saw this massive diversification of Canada, these new streams that got massively expanded, temporary foreign workers and so on.

00:05:50.380 We're very focused on sending the back kind of the most recent that has transformed Canada.

00:05:56.240 But ultimately, it's it's about maintaining Canada's ethnocultural identity.

00:05:59.980 So there are groups that came, you know, years ago that I don't think have integrated into our society.

00:06:06.460 And we do want to offer kind of incentives, even if it's in a voluntary context, for people to return back to their homelands where I think they might be more happy.

00:06:14.940 So that's very much our focus.

00:06:18.660 You know, even as early as the 1900s, we saw these waves of what I would call settlers coming in.

00:06:25.440 You mentioned Ukrainians, Germans.

00:06:27.880 these people did come to the to the frontier they might not have you know roots going back

00:06:32.720 hundreds of years like the the kind of original settlers of eastern Canada but they still came 1.00

00:06:37.480 here uh into a country that was majority Canadian uh assimilated into our culture and helped settle

00:06:43.680 the younger parts of the country especially you know places like here in Calgary and Alberta

00:06:48.040 more generally um so I I view these people as heritage Canadians I like I view that kind of

00:06:54.140 experience of settlement as foundational to the character of Canada but that's very different than

00:07:00.700 what we see in from modern immigration trends where people are coming here for just for economic

00:07:04.680 opportunity not not risking everything to to carve out civilization so I wouldn't even consider

00:07:11.240 those kind of more early waves of people coming over as as immigrants really I think they're

00:07:18.720 settlers much like the the earliest peoples of canada um so we're very much focused on more

00:07:24.160 recent trends but people people don't realize how recent the the kind of transformation of canada

00:07:29.580 is like even as early as the 19 uh as recently as the 1980s canada was a 96 percent white country

00:07:36.600 um the now we're you know probably around 60 maybe maybe even lower than that we'll see

00:07:42.180 during the census later this year but the the the mass diversification of canada the shift to

00:07:48.080 multiculturalism is really only 50 years deep and i i like that's not significant roots in this

00:07:52.400 country i think we can uh rapidly walk these uh things back with with a dramatic shift in in policy

00:08:00.060 ideas like it's politicians who brought these people here and it's politicians that can send

00:08:03.680 them back well you talked you know you're focused on the trudeau wave which i think i call the second

00:08:07.980 trudeau wave the first the first trudeau wave was actually the beginning not the absolute beginning

00:08:12.660 but it was the beginning of mass multicultural migration.

00:08:16.520 And we had small groups of, say, Sikhs and small groups,

00:08:20.240 Chinese laborers building the railway.

00:08:23.260 They were very, very small groups.

00:08:26.600 Mass multicultural non-European migration began largely in the Trudeau era.

00:08:32.920 Yeah, well, I actually credited to Brian Mulroney as the start of last revolution.

00:08:37.180 I saw your clip this morning, and you were talking,

00:08:39.080 like, Mulroney and Harper continue this.

00:08:42.180 I mean, it was ramped up to wild new heights or depths, depending on how you're looking at it, under Trudeau II.

00:08:50.960 But, I mean, this began with Trudeau I.

00:08:55.660 The Multiculturalism Act was under Brian Mulroney.

00:08:58.340 He made it law.

00:08:59.380 And he also shifted Canada from our traditional tap-on, tap-off system,

00:09:03.260 where we would increase immigration rates when the economy was booming and decrease them when the economy was down.

00:09:10.460 he shifted us to a flat figure which has only increased and increased and increased since then

00:09:15.280 so I really credit Brian Mulrooney with shifting us to a more mass immigration system instead of

00:09:19.780 being kind of this flexible it was Trudeau Sr. that brought in multicultural but it was Brian

00:09:24.120 Mulrooney that made that law so it's hard to separate these problems and just lump them all

00:09:28.740 on Trudeau it has been both parties it's so fun to put everything on two guys named Trudeau but

00:09:33.360 I say conservatives

00:09:36.580 are complicit in things.

00:09:39.320 Once they agree with it,

00:09:40.960 then it is considered the broad

00:09:42.720 political consensus. It's now

00:09:44.580 the immigration consensus, which we

00:09:46.340 say that we used to have.

00:09:48.760 The liberals might start it.

00:09:50.640 The NDP might be the thin edge of the wedge.

00:09:52.580 The liberals do it. But as soon as the conservatives

00:09:54.780 adopt something, well, then it's

00:09:56.680 sacrosanct. It's on the table.

00:09:58.220 Yeah.

00:10:01.740 Okay.

00:10:02.340 Yeah, you know, you talk about immigration going up and down.

00:10:05.480 I was having a chat.

00:10:07.100 I won't name the person, but a white liberal woman the other day. 1.00

00:10:12.580 And, you know, one of her arguments was, you know, we're talking about ICE in the States and whatnot.

00:10:18.360 And she, you know, like everyone, you know, we apply everything from America to Canada.

00:10:22.940 And sometimes there's fair parallels, very often not.

00:10:25.660 But, you know, she was saying, well, you know, if we re-migrate these people, like, you know, prices will go up.

00:10:32.920 Well, prices are going up because we're printing money.

00:10:36.000 But, yeah, okay, if we did re-migrate a few million people who shouldn't be here, prices would go up. 0.94

00:10:43.140 I'm going to have to pay more for my Amazon delivery.

00:10:45.440 I'm going to have to pay more for my Uber Eats.

00:10:48.240 But I'm okay with that.

00:10:50.200 I don't like it.

00:10:51.260 Of course, I'd like these things to be nice and cheap.

00:10:53.320 uh primary reason for these things is because we print money but yes we're importing cheap

00:10:59.200 third world labor but at the same time we're undercutting our own labor market people born 0.81

00:11:04.500 here uh people love our culture um they're priced out of the market you know they might not be high

00:11:10.780 skill people uh so they're not going to get the top jobs they're kind of lower end but there's

00:11:16.560 someone's going to work a few dollars cheaper than them uh so they're priced out of the market but

00:11:21.420 you know uh on the economic level and for me the economics is quite secondary to all of this but

00:11:26.860 uh the politician is more comfortable talking about the economic side and and it matters um

00:11:33.560 how important is it that you know if we do this yeah you're gonna pay more for your amazon delivery

00:11:38.300 you're gonna pay more for your uber eats if you ask me i would prefer the great a great depression 0.58

00:11:43.300 to the great replacement there are things that are just more valuable that you just can't put

00:11:47.280 a dollar figure on and i think that canada's identity is one of those things we've seen a

00:11:53.280 massive transformation in our culture over the last few years in line with this push for

00:11:57.500 multiculturalism in in in line with this massive diversification of our country but i also think

00:12:04.020 that these economic factors are overstated because like something like re-migration would have a

00:12:08.780 number of positive impacts on the economy uh immigration as it stands is is an elite project

00:12:15.340 Right. It benefits a tiny minority at the top at the expense of the average Canadian. 0.83

00:12:20.120 It drives down wages. It drives up housing, both rents and actually housing prices.

00:12:26.460 This does benefit a small group of people, but it it harms the situation for the vast majority.

00:12:32.440 So I do think it's overstated. We spend billions of dollars supporting mass immigration right now.

00:12:39.460 uh the it was found that over the last uh nine years the the government has spent something

00:12:45.980 like 10 billion dollars providing um social support uh child benefits stuff like this to

00:12:51.580 non-citizens uh we're spending over a billion dollars just this year on the interim federal

00:12:56.700 health program which is the the health care uh provided to uh asylum claimants people that just

00:13:02.160 come into our country and claim that they're asylum seekers many of which most of which are

00:13:06.680 found to be fraudulent. And yet they get a more generous healthcare package than even Canadian

00:13:13.860 citizens. It includes things like prosthetic limbs and therapy and dentistry and things that

00:13:20.300 average Canadians don't get unless they have a separate insurance plan. So we're spending 0.63

00:13:24.840 billions of dollars a year to support this mass immigration project. I think we can repurpose a

00:13:30.060 lot of that to support a remigration project. So I really do think the economic side of things

00:13:35.900 is overstated i don't think we can put a value on on canadian culture and identity which we're

00:13:40.280 quickly quickly losing um i would bring it back to what this is doing to you know the working class

00:13:48.660 people at the lower socioeconomic rungs of our society i've you know you talk to union unionized

00:13:57.900 workers i and that's a broad i'm not i'm not talking about like unionized bureaucrats working

00:14:02.600 in Gatineau, I'm not talking about that

00:14:04.600 you know, I'm talking

00:14:06.160 you know, the guy who

00:14:08.240 you know, plows the snow working for the city

00:14:10.720 relatively blue collar

00:14:12.520 jobs that are, you know, lower

00:14:14.680 ish end, but

00:14:16.460 you know, these unions that are supposed to be

00:14:18.960 representing the working class

00:14:20.940 I don't

00:14:22.620 hear, maybe

00:14:23.900 you've heard something, I haven't

00:14:26.460 heard a word from any of these guys

00:14:28.300 about mass migration

00:14:30.600 completely undercutting the very bottom rungs,

00:14:33.740 guys who are right below unions.

00:14:35.380 Like unions traditionally sport things like minimum wages

00:14:38.320 that obviously have distortionary effects on the labor market,

00:14:42.220 but they argue that, well, by setting that floor,

00:14:45.040 that kind of moves everybody up a bit.

00:14:47.300 But mass migration undercuts that floor dramatically.

00:14:51.300 It sets a floor for people born here, 1.00

00:14:54.200 but it establishes a new sub-basement below that

00:14:57.180 that undercuts everyone working there.

00:14:59.000 Why do you think it is that unions or other kinds of organizations that purport to represent the working class have absolutely nothing to say about this?

00:15:09.780 Yeah, I think it chalked up to the kind of cultural revolution pushed by Lester Pearson and Pierre Trudeau, which ultimately became this kind of consensus, this post-national redefinition of the country, which made kind of conversations around immigration, any kind of criticism of it to be verboten, to be racist.

00:15:31.020 And most kind of institutions, whether it be unions or governments, try and fall within these lines and not kind of ruffle any feathers, shake any branches.

00:15:42.800 So they focus on things that are less controversial, that fit into this very civic identity of what Canada is.

00:15:50.820 But it misses the central point.

00:15:52.480 And that's really, we want to be able, the Dominion Society, we want to be able to kind of provide that space to normalize discussions around identity and immigration. And as these ideas become more popular, as they become more widely discussed, I think we'll see groups, more establishment groups, be it unions or whatnot, take advantage of that space and be more comfortable providing these kind of criticisms.

00:16:15.940 Do you think they're just afraid? They're just kind of afraid of the politics and the backlash that someone's going to call them names like racist, etc.?

00:16:23.040 I think that's a part of it. But I think the other thing is it's almost like a level of cognitive dissonance.

00:16:29.440 Like people, they've internalized immigration as so central to Canadian identity that it's just like not something that can even be questioned on an almost unconscious level.

00:16:41.960 like it's just a non-factor and the the reality is it's a major factor it might be the most major

00:16:47.640 factor um so we want to push that into the spotlight and i i think we're already shifting

00:16:53.380 the broader conversation on on immigration across the country i if you talk to again i'm not talking

00:16:58.600 about you know guys working and get no office talents here but you know you talk to these

00:17:03.400 kinds of guys they care about immigration like uh more than the probably more than the average

00:17:10.080 like the mean Canadian on this um but the leadership doesn't talk about it and I I wonder

00:17:17.020 is it is it tribal that uh unquestioned yeah and you know saying there is the broad political

00:17:23.900 consensus really from Trudeau on you know Mulroney brought the multiculturalism act the Harper

00:17:29.020 government had a lot of immigration again nothing compared to what Trudeau the second but I mean

00:17:32.800 still very high levels of mass immigration um but the left has always been most associated with it

00:17:39.480 And that goes, you know, even pre-Second World War.

00:17:42.980 Like, that's always kind of been the case.

00:17:44.600 The left has always been less nationalistic.

00:17:47.700 Egalitarian, universalist.

00:17:48.980 Yeah.

00:17:49.840 So I'm wondering, you know, is it just tribal?

00:17:51.600 Because, you know, the union movement has, you know,

00:17:54.300 traditionally came out of the Social Democratic, you know, the SPD in Germany.

00:17:57.820 And it was always kind of directly associated with the center left and the hard left parties.

00:18:02.420 Is it just tribal and just kind of baked into them that, well, we're a union,

00:18:05.860 we're then therefore part of the broader left and center left coalition and that coalition is

00:18:11.880 pro-immigration and we just that's why it's more of a political tribal thing it certainly seems that

00:18:18.180 way i i don't know exactly what uh can explain the kind of capture the institutional capture of

00:18:24.240 labor unions i i think they've very much strayed from their kind of original purpose and are just

00:18:29.700 kind of arms of, uh, the, the, the modern post-national state at this point. Um, and I do

00:18:36.280 think that's a, a, a driving factor on why these, uh, these issues have stagnated over the last 10

00:18:42.140 years and stuff, uh, in particular. Um, but I do think that as these ideas become more popular,

00:18:48.340 we'll see that we'll, we'll see a shift in those, uh, institutions towards a message that's more

00:18:54.260 in line with a growing public sentiment um i'm gonna paint things in overly broad terms uh so

00:19:03.420 it will be inaccurate but i'm speaking in general um groups that are now that have shifted and are

00:19:11.300 now more opposed to mass migration uh generally are going to be white men i find and integrated

00:19:17.620 immigrants you know i um i i i was in a party before christmas i was telling you this before

00:19:23.700 we came on the air um uh i was talking to this indian guy and he had like a fort mac draw or

00:19:30.760 twang like he sounded like a hoser and this guy he was indian but uh hyper hyper integrated he

00:19:39.260 was born in india but he he he sounded like more of a hoser than you or i and uh and this guy i'd

00:19:46.700 never heard anyone real so hard against mass migration for india what it's happening you

00:19:50.660 You know, he's taken blowback because of the quality of some people coming now, the number that it can't be integrated.

00:19:57.280 Guys like him are hard line remigration, white men. 0.64

00:20:04.480 Why is it? I don't know. This is maybe a bigger question, but like it seems like the holdout groups and it's younger people who are opposed to this.

00:20:11.980 But broadly speaking, and of course, my apologies to the groups about the name, boomers and white urban women are, broadly speaking, with millions of exceptions, are the ones that are doubling down on this.

00:20:29.180 In Canada and the United States, or across the West more broadly, it's the older generation, it's boomers, and it's urban white liberal women who are holding on to this despite the evidence before their eyes. 1.00

00:20:41.980 what do you chalk that up to?

00:20:46.180 Because one group is seeing

00:20:48.060 the civilization they grew up in being destroyed

00:20:50.260 and the other group, you know, like in Europe 0.92

00:20:52.200 gets raped on the street. 0.96

00:20:54.860 Why? Those seem like the two 0.94

00:20:56.180 groups that should most be concerned.

00:20:58.220 Yeah, I find

00:21:00.180 a lot of boomers are

00:21:02.080 very much living in, still

00:21:04.240 captured in this kind of 1990s

00:21:06.400 early 2000s kind of conception of immigration

00:21:08.480 where the numbers aren't

00:21:10.180 what we see today where where they see immigrate immigrants as coming here and being a small

00:21:15.700 minority and assimilating into culture uh our culture they they see the immigration project 0.92

00:21:21.680 as what it was when it was you know somewhat functional they're stuck in the past and they

00:21:27.180 i don't know if it's it's sort of cognitive dissonance they're not ready to accept the

00:21:31.560 problem as it is um they they're still captured in that uh post-war universalist kind of consensus

00:21:40.140 where where liberalism won the day whereas young people they they were born into this liberal

00:21:45.440 system and they it's been dysfunctional their entire lives so they're very willing to to

00:21:50.000 adjust to these new ideas um uh women in general uh in a kind of political science uh uh perspective 0.97

00:21:59.320 They often kind of go with the broader public opinion.

00:22:05.520 So they kind of shift later than other groups.

00:22:09.540 They stay where things are popular.

00:22:11.740 This is just kind of the reality of voting patterns of women. 1.00

00:22:15.440 But as the situation becomes less safe, as they become a group that receives the backlash in ways that men might not, as you just pointed out,

00:22:29.320 then they do radically shift over.

00:22:31.880 And I think we've seen that shift more so in European countries

00:22:35.280 where these things like rape gangs and stuff have been a bigger problem.

00:22:41.780 We haven't seen that quite at scale here in Canada.

00:22:45.640 And I think that might be a result of the source countries

00:22:49.460 that we receive a majority of immigration from.

00:22:53.020 But again, as these kind of ideas take off, as they become popular,

00:22:56.780 we're kind of pushing forward a new counterculture

00:22:59.640 which is kind of strange

00:23:01.860 to some

00:23:02.400 but that's the reality

00:23:05.440 we're putting forward

00:23:07.680 our message

00:23:10.380 in a very modern

00:23:12.580 and kind of trendy way

00:23:13.700 and I think as that takes off we'll see

00:23:15.300 women come over and join 1.00

00:23:17.560 with that movement

00:23:18.660 maybe but I'm not even sure

00:23:21.300 that is proving the case in Europe

00:23:22.580 I follow German politics pretty closely

00:23:25.860 I know in the former East German

00:23:27.660 states

00:23:28.660 the AFD was the

00:23:31.880 overwhelming choice of young men

00:23:33.440 but Die Linke, the actual communist

00:23:35.840 party

00:23:36.360 the legal successor of the East German

00:23:39.840 communist party, young

00:23:41.820 women voted overwhelmingly for

00:23:43.860 them, so they just

00:23:45.920 totally split, no one voted for the center left

00:23:47.960 party, no one voted for the center right party

00:23:49.740 or even the Greens, they just split

00:23:51.800 to the two ends

00:23:53.360 I'm not sure we're even seeing it

00:23:55.860 there where there's like rape gangs in the streets it's it's bizarre to me that like young

00:24:01.760 women are the most vulnerable group to this kind of thing and and europe uh you know the source

00:24:08.120 countries they're getting from it's even more dangerous than what we're getting here i'm not

00:24:12.600 sure we're even seeing it there where this crisis is very far advanced it's it's not theoretical at

00:24:19.940 all at this point it's it's there yeah no i think there's that's a troubling trend in global

00:24:25.160 politics in general we've seen a uh amongst young and young men and young women we've seen a drastic

00:24:30.400 divergence and polarization uh amongst uh along kind of right left lines we've seen women come 1.00

00:24:37.780 much more radically left and and young men become much more radically right um and that's uh you

00:24:44.440 know i think that that drives a lot of problems in like the modern dating market and all these

00:24:48.200 things yeah how do you date with someone that different exactly uh it's it's hard when there's

00:24:53.880 that disconnect in in worldview um and and i do think ultimately the the the only real solution

00:24:59.840 is is to to find ways to to fix that kind of dating market i think if young men and young

00:25:07.980 women were getting together at younger ages and starting families that's how we see people become 1.00

00:25:12.680 more uh right-leaning and temperament right once you have a family once there's that once once

00:25:17.740 you're entrenched into the kind of uh future of the country um there is that shift back uh but i

00:25:24.760 really think that that is the kind of foundational problem there and then the solutions to that is is

00:25:30.020 is difficult uh for sure yeah nothing radicalizes you like having kids uh actually the voting trends

00:25:36.280 actually show too uh those women who are kind of on the radical left as soon as they have kids 1.00

00:25:40.340 they shift quite a bit as well uh but yeah i don't i don't know how people date in this world

00:25:45.320 i i dated a girl once uh who was a vegetarian like she was great on all scores but she was a 1.00

00:25:50.540 vegetarian oh no and i'm a hunter this is that just it was doomed doomed to fail um

00:25:57.560 okay well let's talk a bit about um actually i'll get into what you're doing on it but you

00:26:04.100 talked a bit about ending some of the pull factors we have bringing mass migration here

00:26:07.900 um and and that's some of the i think that's the easier stuff it's just like we're gonna 0.96

00:26:13.280 stop giving you free shit that's this first step that's close the doors turn off the taps that's 0.92

00:26:18.300 the low-hanging fruit and i don't think it would be it's politically easier to do is it's a much 1.00

00:26:24.840 it's a fairly easy argument to say hey uh this is not good for us let's stop subsidizing something

00:26:31.040 that is actively bad for us okay that's a fairly easy argument to make but push factors yeah you

00:26:38.580 talk about pull factors i'm gonna talk about push factors go so once we end the pull factors

00:26:42.360 we're then going to need re-migration then also requires some sort of push factor yes um what do

00:26:50.240 you and again there's a spectrum of how far along that we go and you probably start with the easier

00:26:55.040 stuff yeah tell me about what do you think about what we need for push factors i do think we need

00:27:00.360 to put our foot down and be more uh exclusive in how we define canadian and actually enforce those

00:27:07.120 standards for what canadian culture is i mentioned a bit earlier uh about importing some of the ideas

00:27:14.000 successful policies we've seen in quebec to to make uh can the kind of less multicultural society 0.94

00:27:20.880 to enforce strict kind of language laws uh and kind of cultural standards to to ban certain

00:27:26.820 religious symbols uh in in the public service in the education systems to to make the situation

00:27:34.400 in Canada a little bit less welcoming and comfortable for immigrants if they want to live

00:27:39.480 if they want to live within foreign religions within foreign cultures they can do that in

00:27:44.320 their home countries so that's a big kind of push factor as well we we propose offering what we call

00:27:51.580 a voluntary repatriation system which would be offering sort of financial incentives or logistical

00:27:57.860 incentives to encourage people to return to their own country so we've seen like Trump administration

00:28:02.960 do this offer things like free plane tickets to return back to your country as the kind of economic

00:28:08.320 taps get turned off as the the culture becomes a bit more exclusive here in Canada there'll be a

00:28:13.100 lot of incentives for them to go back so offering them the logistical assistance helping them

00:28:18.380 with moving fees or even a financial package like we've seen in Denmark and Sweden to to further

00:28:25.680 encourage them to to return would all would all be kind of the earlier steps before we start kind

00:28:30.760 of the carrot so to speak before we

00:28:32.820 before we bring in the stick

00:28:33.940 well in that I mean even within

00:28:36.900 that there'd be different ones

00:28:38.500 like the Trump one is giving incentives

00:28:41.040 for illegals to self-deport

00:28:43.060 I think is the term they're using

00:28:44.200 but also

00:28:46.760 we do have a lot who are here

00:28:49.000 as permanent residents or

00:28:50.820 even citizens would you see it at some point

00:28:52.940 getting to where we would give

00:28:54.880 probably a bigger incentive

00:28:56.220 to get someone

00:28:58.900 to voluntarily abrogate

00:29:00.760 or renounce their citizenship or permanent residency and return to the country of origin?

00:29:05.480 Yeah, yeah, that would be exactly this voluntary repatriation program,

00:29:09.680 you know, giving them a one-time lump sum in order to annul their permanent residency

00:29:14.380 or naturalized citizenship.

00:29:18.740 But as well, like, I think we can completely reform the,

00:29:22.340 a large portion of existing immigrants here are not yet citizens.

00:29:27.600 They are still permanent residents, which is a slightly different class.

00:29:31.760 And as such, they don't have the same kind of constitutional rights as citizens do.

00:29:36.220 So I would reform the permanent residency program and annul all permanent residency to put them back in a temporary basis. 0.83

00:29:43.200 And then that would allow us to review all of these permanent residencies and selects for people who should actually stay and be shifted to citizens or have that completely revoked and have them removed.

00:29:55.160 that i don't think the same kind of financial incentives are necessary for for the permanent

00:29:59.300 resident side of things as they would be for the naturalized citizenship side so i i think one of

00:30:03.740 the problems you'll run into is like i'm with you on a fair to fairly a fair degree of this stuff

00:30:10.440 but we all know some people who probably we like here they're good um everyone knows like every

00:30:17.520 single canadian knows at least one probably more who were like yeah you know okay there's a big

00:30:23.060 migration problem we we gotta fix this but i don't want him gone that's my neighbor he's good that's

00:30:28.940 my co-worker she's good how do we address that because there's going to be a lot of exceptions 0.98

00:30:34.360 where no this person is integrating this person is a net contributor they're not sucking off the

00:30:38.140 taxpayer they are a net contributor they're assimilating where do we draw the line like that

00:30:44.820 at the end of the day we have to realize that it's it's not personal it's necessary like

00:30:49.240 mass immigration and multiculturalism has imposed an existential threat on the the the Canadian 1.00

00:30:54.200 nation and I that needs to be held paramount we need to maintain our ethnocultural identity or

00:31:00.560 else we're going to be living in you know little India within the next few years so it's like even 0.52

00:31:05.820 though there might be exceptions to the rule we need to have a hard line stance and send back a

00:31:10.260 lot of people that came here over the last few decades ultimately the priority needs to be around

00:31:15.280 people that are threatening our social

00:31:17.120 cohesion and our national security

00:31:19.120 like we

00:31:20.580 we're importing criminals 0.97

00:31:22.820 and gangs from

00:31:25.040 all over the world we have

00:31:26.280 the Chinese state operating

00:31:28.680 police stations within our border

00:31:31.080 compromising our sovereignty

00:31:32.380 the Canadian government just labeled the

00:31:35.080 Bishnoi gang out of India 1.00

00:31:36.240 as a terrorist threat 0.82

00:31:38.540 like these I don't care if these

00:31:41.020 people are permanent residents or citizens

00:31:43.120 like these people need to be have

00:31:45.280 these statuses stripped away from them and they need to be removed um i would we don't propose a

00:31:51.180 plan that says we need to you know the peter griffin meme with the with the the color it's

00:31:56.040 like if you're a certain pigmentation you're out that's not what we're putting forward um we need

00:32:01.200 to have sort of standards around social cohesion let's make sure we get the meme up by post-production

00:32:05.540 here we need a we need assimilation doesn't just happen it needs to be enforced so uh we need to

00:32:11.880 offer those carrots and sticks and we need to send people back that aren't aren't meeting our

00:32:15.380 standards um some people can stay they they have been integrated well into our our society they

00:32:21.040 have uh offered uh value um and i think that there is space for that within our society but

00:32:27.860 ultimately if we're going to maintain our country we need to make sure that canadians don't become

00:32:31.420 a majority in this country and even further than that we need to make sure canadians remain the

00:32:35.740 super majority in order to make assimilation possible right now it's it's literally against

00:32:40.740 canadian policy to assimilate like you're encouraged to maintain these foreign religions

00:32:45.020 these foreign cultures these foreign languages and that's that that's not the recipe for a

00:32:50.320 successful functional society so we need to take a hard line stance and shift things back in a

00:32:55.240 different direction yeah i i think even a lot of migrants migrants want that they want to come to

00:33:02.260 canada they don't necessarily want to come to the place they left behind people across the spectrum

00:33:07.100 reject mass immigration right it's a majority of both canadians white canadians and immigrants

00:33:11.660 reject it's 65 percent of white canadians reject mass immigration it's like 56 percent of of

00:33:17.160 immigrants uh also rejected yeah uh okay let's talk more specifically about the dominion society

00:33:22.760 itself uh six months you've been around for six months uh you know i've seen uh kind of instagram

00:33:28.740 reels and stuff like that uh you know it's it's punchy it's uh oh god i'm gonna sound old it's

00:33:36.300 hip you know but it's it's it's it's it's it's you know it's strong rousing stuff you know uh

00:33:43.820 you know you'll cut to some kind of vintage clips of you know old mounties or a highlander band

00:33:49.380 going uh you know it's can't but stir your heart now you know this is coming from an alberta

00:33:54.640 nationalist i'm like that country i was okay with i you know i that was a country i i grew up as a

00:34:01.720 Canadian nationalist I was a sea cadet I went around military bases my my old youth and uh

00:34:06.580 I loved I ate that stuff up hard but um uh so there's that you know you've got kind of that

00:34:14.080 online meme lord presence and uh and you can mean yourself to victory we've seen it before

00:34:21.220 uh but beyond beyond the edits what are you guys doing yeah I mean I people often uh kind of

00:34:29.400 over adjust and they kind of you can't just be on social media they want to see things happening

00:34:33.400 in real life but we also can't discount the important role that media and social media plays

00:34:37.160 within the broader movement so that is a big part of our our overall strategy ultimately our goal is

00:34:42.660 to normalize a nationalist worldview and the concept of remigration and kind of meeting people

00:34:48.140 where they're at on social media in a format that they're kind of interested in is an important part

00:34:54.540 of that overall strategy. So those edits are important. Reminding people about what Canada

00:35:00.560 was not too long ago when policies were different and what Canada can be again if we pursue a

00:35:07.960 different direction policy-wise is an important part of our overall strategy. But that is just

00:35:13.000 kind of one part of our kind of four-point strategy. So in this broader mission to normalize

00:35:19.080 remigration, we kind of have these four main pathways. And one of them is that, yes, this

00:35:22.700 media content but we also have our secondary strategy which is our grassroots organization

00:35:27.900 we're building localized chapters and volunteer groups across the country in order to engage in

00:35:33.180 classical kind of grassroots activism putting up posters distributing flyers knocking on doors

00:35:38.640 organizing protests and demonstrations that's part two part three is our kind of what we call

00:35:45.080 our intellectual development we we're working on a series of white papers to flesh out our

00:35:50.200 10 point remigration plan into kind of professional, incredible white papers to kind of meet the

00:35:56.700 elites or the government folks where they're at in a format that they're used to.

00:36:01.960 So just like we're meeting kind of younger people on social media, we want to meet older

00:36:06.420 people and more bureaucratic or policy wonk folks where they're at with our series of

00:36:12.440 white papers or green papers.

00:36:14.520 And then finally, we have what we call our institutional infiltration.

00:36:18.660 We're looking to install people within political parties on electoral districts associations as candidates, running for local councils, getting involved in community groups.

00:36:27.440 So we have, and even in the government and bureaucracy, so we have like-minded Canadian nationalists, a network of them within all these influential organizations.

00:36:37.380 I think back to John Diefenbaker. I'm sure you've read Lament for a Nation, an important text for all Canadian nationalists.

00:36:48.560 One of the core reasons that he failed as the last kind of Canadian nationalist was he had a disunited party in a bureaucracy that was working against him.

00:36:59.540 So we want to kind of take a page out of his failures and look to have this network of well-placed nationalists in political parties and governments.

00:37:09.440 So when we are able to take power, we don't have that same kind of pushback and we're able to implement our ideas without kind of being hijacked or distracted by bureaucrats or a disunited political party.

00:37:23.500 yeah you're talking about these white papers i i remember when i was uh uh in the canadian

00:37:30.400 taxpayers federation part of my career i remember i forget his name but uh a guy from the frazier

00:37:36.680 institute wrote you know the frazier institute is very smart but often very dry academic work

00:37:44.220 but you know it's it's a part of the pipeline of the policy process you know that's you know

00:37:48.420 way before it gets to an edit

00:37:50.020 you know it comes from

00:37:52.180 hopefully it should come from something

00:37:53.840 grounded and strong academic

00:37:56.520 research work

00:37:57.960 and he wrote this piece

00:38:00.120 just kind of

00:38:01.640 I vaguely remember it was talking about well it's going to have

00:38:04.260 big impacts on like the housing market

00:38:06.300 and stuff and I remember even

00:38:08.120 in the libertarian circles I was in then

00:38:10.340 we were like

00:38:11.960 oh this is too hot

00:38:14.340 to touch you know like

00:38:16.120 this is ooh he's talking

00:38:18.220 about migration in a way that is not glowingly positive and i i'd say that's circa 2010 2011 0.99

00:38:27.660 and now i think back today i'm like that guy's a pussy that is so soft uh i will you know when i 1.00

00:38:34.100 was a when i ran in politics 2015 for the wild rose i wouldn't even vote for myself in 2015 0.99

00:38:39.060 the vibe shift yeah has been radical like like what's in the water yeah i mean i think it's a

00:38:47.840 It's a shift in the global zeitgeist, right?

00:38:50.040 It's not just here in Canada.

00:38:51.060 It's going on around the world.

00:38:52.680 And to be honest, I might get some flack for this.

00:38:56.520 I've got some flack for this.

00:38:57.860 But I think Prime Minister Carney made a good point the other day at Davos when he was meeting with China when he talked about the shifting new world order.

00:39:07.720 I do think where there is a transformation in the global order from this kind of unipolar system where the Americans are the dominant power.

00:39:17.840 to a more bipolar or multipolar system.

00:39:21.380 And I think that inevitably causes the rise of nationalism.

00:39:25.680 And that's why we're seeing this take off,

00:39:28.280 not just in Canada, not just in the US,

00:39:30.040 but all over the world.

00:39:31.200 As the global system becomes more chaotic,

00:39:34.240 more multipolar,

00:39:35.060 there needs to be countries that are more self-interested

00:39:38.800 and more nationalistic.

00:39:40.420 So I think this is a global trend

00:39:43.100 that is kind of downstream from shifting

00:39:47.100 in the global geopolitical kind of power dynamics,

00:39:50.860 creating this inevitability within every single country.

00:39:54.540 And we're looking to kind of steward that movement

00:39:58.040 kind of from the fringes.

00:39:59.200 We've seen this bubbling to the surface

00:40:00.500 over the last few years,

00:40:01.820 for those that have been paying attention.

00:40:03.280 It's very online, it's very anon.

00:40:05.920 And we're looking to translate that message

00:40:08.560 of that rising nationalism from the fringes

00:40:11.140 right into the mainstream

00:40:12.000 and right into political parties and governments.

00:40:13.700 That's kind of how the purpose of our organization,

00:40:16.520 to streamline that transformation into the broader uh mainstream conversation you do know

00:40:22.080 that uh we're going to be featured on the anti-hate network right yeah yeah they're they're

00:40:27.580 our biggest fans they watch everything that i do and they try and tweak it and if they don't call

00:40:31.760 you names you're not my friend exactly are you even trying if you haven't had a hippie 0.97

00:40:36.100 yeah yeah uh what do you even lift yeah um okay well you talked about also getting people running

00:40:44.320 for office into political parties let's talk about that you know you're we've been talking

00:40:49.740 kind of on the meta-political side of things um but down down the pipeline of this you know i mean

00:40:56.660 one end you got you got meme lords and you got guys at the fraser institute writing white papers

00:41:01.960 but further down the line is political power and translating ideas the meta-politics political power

00:41:09.080 um you know for a time the ppc looked like it had uh some potential i don't think anyone ever

00:41:18.120 thought it was necessarily going to displace the conservatives but that it could enter

00:41:20.960 as uh for like a better term an ndp of the right try to pull things in this direction

00:41:27.080 force the conservatives to compete with something to their right flank and would therefore pull them

00:41:31.780 the way that the ndp makes the case traditionally that it can pull the liberals uh it had its high

00:41:39.020 watermark in 2021 you know you had really kind of a perfect storm for the ppc to break through

00:41:45.100 you had uh you know with aaron o'toole you had the conservatives running on a carbon tax that

00:41:49.240 was even worse than trudeau's uh the conservatives were pro vaccine passport they just would not call

00:41:57.420 everybody names so you're still going to need a passport we're just not going to call you a piece 0.94

00:42:01.240 of shit if you don't have it that was really the difference um uh and it what did it like was a 0.93

00:42:07.620 4%? 4.9. 4.9. Okay, so 1.00

00:42:09.660 just a hair under 5. It beat the 0.88

00:42:11.660 Green Party in the popular vote. It still translated to no

00:42:13.600 seats. Since then,

00:42:15.460 it seems to have just

00:42:17.540 kind of completely run

00:42:19.540 out of steam. Some of that might have been that

00:42:21.580 Pierre Polyev shifted the Conservatives.

00:42:24.080 Probably PPP failed to

00:42:25.680 pivot after COVID, right? During

00:42:27.640 COVID, they became very much a single-issue party

00:42:29.740 and they saw a huge rise in

00:42:31.580 support. But then after that, you know,

00:42:33.560 the COVID restrictions were dropped

00:42:34.980 you know months after the 2021 election Pierre Polyev kind of shifted things a little bit more

00:42:40.180 to the right or had a bit more brash populist type messaging won a lot of support back from

00:42:44.560 the PPC and I don't think that the PPC has had a very clear identity since the 2021 election like

00:42:49.660 I don't it's hard to know what they they stand for so I think that they could see success if

00:42:56.080 they kind of simplified their message and focused on a single topic a topic like remigration

00:43:01.860 instead they they've kind of become this kind of party which it's kind of like there's a general

00:43:06.400 grievance party where they get jump on a bunch of different culture war issues a lot of it's

00:43:10.640 imported from the united states and they've kind of made this image as this kind of

00:43:16.580 angry crank party that's hard to get a line behind i think they should follow their their 1.00

00:43:23.420 most successful strategy which was in 2021 when they were a simple single issue party they should

00:43:28.060 be known as the anti-immigrant folks like uh just like they were known as the anti-covid folks

00:43:32.740 because they have very little political capital they have little control over the overall

00:43:36.400 conversation so i think the most the way they can be most successful is by having a very simple

00:43:40.460 identity that everyone can understand if you know what the ppc is you should know that therefore

00:43:44.560 there's one issue i think that would be a more effective way for them to grow but as it stands

00:43:49.420 it looks like they're they're kind of on the decline um i think that the ppc or some similar

00:43:54.420 Party does have a role to play in the Canadian kind of ecosystem, just like as you were explaining,

00:43:59.820 just to have that kind of counterweight within the political spectrum to keep the Conservative

00:44:04.960 Party accountable. But they haven't been doing that very effectively. Well, the other idea would

00:44:10.020 be a takeover or infiltration of the Conservative Party of Canada and, you know, the provincial

00:44:16.040 various provincial Conservative parties of different stripes. But, you know, it's unlike

00:44:20.360 We're not states where we have primary systems.

00:44:23.400 Canada cannot...

00:44:24.440 The Conservative Party will never have a Donald Trump.

00:44:26.580 We don't have a primary system.

00:44:27.920 They can literally just disqualify.

00:44:30.120 Like, if the Republican National Committee had the power to disqualify Donald Trump in the 2015 primaries,

00:44:35.060 they would have disqualified him.

00:44:37.180 The Democrats would have disqualified Bernie Sanders.

00:44:41.180 I mean, they effectively did.

00:44:43.220 Well, they tried...

00:44:44.180 There's a lot of institutional push they could put on you,

00:44:46.520 but at the end of the day, they can't just say you're not allowed to be on the ballot.

00:44:49.560 republican nomination whereas in canada uh you know the leadership committees of the party and

00:44:54.940 or if you're talking about candidates for mp mla the leader themselves who say i'm not signing

00:44:59.120 your papers you're not in there's more nefarious ways that these things happen behind the scenes

00:45:03.920 is 2017 in maxim bernier that i think there was a lot of dubious things around here just like there

00:45:08.540 was around bernie sanders i think jump was a difficult case because he was threatening to

00:45:13.380 run as an independent and he could fully fund himself he wasn't as dependent on the apparatus

00:45:17.100 so they couldn't just kick him out in the same way,

00:45:19.960 but it would be more difficult in the Canadian system, I agree.

00:45:22.480 Yeah, I agree.

00:45:24.220 In Canada, it's just easier for them to just say no,

00:45:26.980 and I do know what you're talking about with Bernier there.

00:45:30.500 Yeah, I'm in agreement.

00:45:32.480 But in the American system, it's more open to outsiders.

00:45:35.300 You can have a Ron Paul who votes against forever wars

00:45:38.980 and damn near every spending bill. 0.98

00:45:41.480 The Republican House caucus hates his guts, 0.92

00:45:45.740 but he always wins the republican primary and there's just nothing they can do about it

00:45:49.740 so they're stuck with him and also on the left you know uh the democratic establishment doesn't

00:45:54.100 necessarily like the aocs of the world and you know they're crazy and they kind of they would 1.00

00:45:58.800 kind of interrupt their kind of monoparty corporatism as well they they don't like

00:46:03.700 the radical left as well um so that's why i think the united states has two parties because you can

00:46:09.980 have more diversity within parties uh in canada you have a fundamental problem with your party

00:46:15.360 you have almost no choice but to just go start your own party which is why i think we've got so

00:46:19.760 many um but you know conservatives in canada albert in particular because we have a more recent

00:46:28.440 local example of it but vote splitting is like it's a thing and it's really something that

00:46:34.420 it affects the left a bit you know the liberals are often able to roll up the ndp vote say you

00:46:38.520 have to vote for us to stop the conservatives and that worked last time the conservatives had

00:46:42.460 a historic vote, high since 1988,

00:46:44.540 and yet they picked up a handful

00:46:46.700 of seats. It worked.

00:46:48.460 It rolled off the left flank. It works a bit,

00:46:50.340 but traditionally the left has been willing to

00:46:52.040 at least send some new Democrats

00:46:54.400 to the House of Commons

00:46:55.500 to keep the liberals accountable,

00:46:58.240 give something harder, more pure.

00:47:00.700 Conservatives have, you know, with the

00:47:02.320 experience of the Reform Party and

00:47:04.020 the Progressive Conservatives in the 90s,

00:47:06.160 while Alberta, while Rose and the Progressive Conservative Party,

00:47:09.040 there's way more hesitancy

00:47:10.460 to so-called split the vote. And I think

00:47:12.300 that's an entitled view often of the

00:47:14.320 establishment Conservative Party to say,

00:47:15.880 we're entitled to these votes.

00:47:19.380 These insurgent

00:47:20.540 parties are taking away

00:47:22.260 something that we're owed.

00:47:23.840 Okay, that is an entitled attitude.

00:47:26.320 But it's not without

00:47:28.160 some merit.

00:47:31.000 But it's harder to take

00:47:32.340 over a party in Canada because

00:47:34.000 they're literally private corporations.

00:47:36.380 They're private, not-for-profit

00:47:38.080 corporations, so

00:47:40.520 they're even more tightly controlled than the United States.

00:47:42.300 where they're still fairly tightly controlled um but you know with the ppc more or less

00:47:47.840 kind of on very much fading away here is the answer people trying to exert influence within

00:47:56.160 the conservative party yeah i mean our strategy is like we this is why we decided not to register

00:48:02.400 as a political party like we're we're a non-partisan out of advocacy group we're not

00:48:06.160 splitting the vote with everyone anyone we're looking to popularize a set of ideas in the

00:48:10.380 general culture um like i borrow ideas from uh the neo-marxist uh antonio gramsci of this concept

00:48:18.760 of the metapolitical i've been reading some gramsci lately yeah exactly so that that politics is

00:48:22.860 downstream from culture so our our efforts are not that's uh that's breitbart andrew breitbart

00:48:29.320 said that one but he's taking from gramsci yeah it's a summary of gramsci's thoughts um and so

00:48:35.280 as such we don't we're not looking to demon uh to influence political parties directly more so

00:48:39.840 indirectly we want to shift the overall culture to make a set of ideas popular and the role of

00:48:46.560 political parties is not really to be thought leaders it's to capitalize on what is popular

00:48:51.500 so we want to make a set of ideas popular and then the politicians will fall in line the thing we

00:48:57.240 hate many people hate most about politicians is that they're not principled that they're not

00:49:01.280 leaders that they just stick their finger up in the air and see which ways the wind's blowing so 0.96

00:49:05.360 i think what we need to do as nationalists is be the most powerful damn wind on the horizon 0.94

00:49:09.440 and shift things in a different direction. 0.95

00:49:11.680 So that's how we're approaching things.

00:49:13.580 We want to get people involved in political parties to extend that influence

00:49:17.660 and to have allies at every level in government, in parties, and so on.

00:49:22.420 But I wouldn't even limit things to the Conservatives.

00:49:24.820 I think that the Kearney Liberals are as likely to adopt our ideas

00:49:30.120 as the Conservative Party might be,

00:49:32.340 even though the Conservative Party might be faster to react.

00:49:35.060 like we've seen Carney completely change how the Liberal Party approaches immigration over the last

00:49:40.700 year. Just on the end of the calendar year, we saw this net negative migration, which was

00:49:45.740 Polyev's big pivot after the election. Mark Carney's already doing it. Negative 20,000 net

00:49:50.420 migration on the end of last year. It's still weren't here good enough. Still, but it's compared

00:49:57.200 to Trudeau, 1.2 million people coming in. It's a huge, it's a huge departure. So I think as the

00:50:03.800 ideas become popular. We've seen politicians, whether that be Mark Carney, whether that be

00:50:08.980 Doug Ford, be very reactive to growing anti-immigration sentiment. So we're looking to

00:50:13.280 push that anti-immigration sentiment to pro-remigration sentiment. And I think we can see

00:50:17.640 shifts in all the mainstream parties, not just the Conservatives. But I think we do have a lot

00:50:22.640 of sympathetic minds within the Conservative Party in particular already. So we're looking to

00:50:28.380 to put pressure very directly on them um over the next few days during this convention we want to

00:50:34.680 use it to highlight that the conservative party just isn't very conservative anymore uh uh poly

00:50:40.660 polyev's uh former um communications director published a uh an op-ed in the globe and mail

00:50:46.640 the other day last weekend in advance of the convention uh a very much puff piece on on

00:50:51.660 polyev kind of explaining his vision of conservatism and it's all about free trade

00:50:56.880 free market smaller government none of this is actually conservative like this is this is

00:51:02.160 liberalism rebranded in blue and really like our country's undergoing the most dramatic

00:51:09.520 transformation in our history and i don't think you can call yourself a conservative in any

00:51:14.760 meaningful sense unless you're opposing that transformation and that comes with rejecting

00:51:20.040 mass immigration and really the only way to stop the demographic transformation of this country 0.99

00:51:23.820 at this point is is remigration like stats can release a report at the end of last year that

00:51:28.920 42 percent of all births in canada are to immigrant women of that remaining 58 percent

00:51:35.400 the majority of that's probably to second third gen immigrants even if we completely close the 1.00

00:51:40.500 doors tomorrow we would probably be a majority minority in this country uh both within 20 years

00:51:47.640 the only way to preserve canadians as the majority in canada what i think is a very reasonable

00:51:53.280 position, is to start sending people back. So if the Conservatives are going to be really

00:51:57.940 Conservative, they need to start talking about the demographic security, the cultural continuity,

00:52:03.380 the historic identity of Canadians, or else I don't think they're a real alternative to the status 0.99

00:52:08.240 quo. I guess I'll close with a two-part question, and you've already preempted it a bit.

00:52:16.480 You're here in town during the Conservative Convention. So what is your mission in the

00:52:21.920 next few days during this convention and kind of to what you just said there though isn't it already

00:52:28.440 too late i don't think it is too late like we've seen such a radical shift in the demographic in

00:52:34.420 the overton window in just the last year i think we'll see an even more radical shift in the in

00:52:40.000 the next year the reality is canadians are still the majority in this country and i think if we

00:52:44.440 can align Canadians around this set of credible policies. I think there is a silent majority of

00:52:53.000 people, even immigrants, that agree with our ideas, even if they might not be comfortable

00:52:57.780 saying it. And as we act as that vanguard, that bridgehead to articulate the ideas, to articulate

00:53:04.100 these insecurities that people have been feeling their whole lives, people will be, that's what I

00:53:09.200 believe. That's what I agree with. I didn't even know I liked remigration until that guy introduced

00:53:13.340 me to it i think we'll see that like over the next year there's been a lot of signals of canadian

00:53:18.500 nationalism rising there's been a lot of new groups on the scene that are doing things in a

00:53:22.300 professional capacity and i think we're going to see a rapid shift of the overton window over the

00:53:26.840 next year we're well positioned between elections to transform the conversation and and i and like

00:53:32.480 this weekend is going to be a big part of that we want to really push this we want to make the

00:53:37.620 conversation over the next few days about wait is the conservative party even even really

00:53:41.720 conservative is polyev really even conservative so we have a few plans for the next few days to

00:53:46.200 kind of uh push that conversation to to be a central topic uh and we'll see how that goes

00:53:51.600 all right well thanks for your time uh welcome to calgary and uh i'll see you at our bail hearing

00:53:57.680 for hate crimes in a few weeks oh yeah yeah well best of luck with that uh we'll we'll have to wait

00:54:03.300 to see uh what what anti-hate has to say about uh our conversation today i'm looking forward to that

00:54:07.900 Yeah. All right. Thanks for coming in. All right. Well, that's Daniel Tyree of the Dominion Society. Remember, the Western Standard is only $10 a month or $100 a year. Go to westernstandard.news and click on subscribe to get all access to Western Standard content and support the work that we're doing. Thank you very much for joining us and God bless.

Western Standard - January 30, 2026

Putting Remigration back on the agenda

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