Western Standard - Quit pretending we need indigenous consent!

00:00:00.000 Good morning.

00:00:29.980 and welcome to the Cory Morgan Show. It's December. It's winter out there. It sucks.

00:00:35.680 There's snow everywhere. You can't make me like it. I'm never going to like it. I'm counting down 0.99

00:00:39.980 the days to when I hide out down in Arizona. That's one of the news things that's been

00:00:43.500 happening lately, actually. Oh, and our publisher, Derek Fildebrand, as you can see, it's a busy

00:00:48.120 news day. He's been pacing and ranting and raving back there in this newsroom behind me. This is

00:00:52.800 where it's nice to hide out in the studio while this sort of stuff going on. Like I said, one of

00:00:57.180 those things going on is a lot of Canadians the vacation numbers are up in Canada and they're

00:01:01.540 down in the states and of course they're saying that's all due to all the elbows up sort of stuff

00:01:05.900 well maybe a little bit most of it's due to our crappy dollar I'm afraid but it's not stopping me

00:01:11.860 I'm gonna hide out down there especially you gotta see I gotta take a break from that

00:01:14.640 raving madman pacing back and forth behind me talking about news items I'm gonna have uh one

00:01:20.060 of our news guys from that newsroom Dave Wienick he's gonna come on and talk about a few things

00:01:24.040 going on out there. It's a busy, busy day in politics and in general. And I'll kick things

00:01:29.400 off starting with, let's talk about that memorandum of understanding, MOU. Now,

00:01:36.980 Burtons are rightly skeptical of this MOU signed between Premier Daniel Smith and Prime Minister

00:01:42.700 Mark Carney to build a new pipeline to the Pacific Coast. That skepticism morphed into hostile

00:01:48.000 cynicism last weekend as Smith found herself booed at her very own AGM in Edmonton at the

00:01:53.140 mention of the agreement. Considering the message from Ottawa on the issue though, why on earth should

00:01:57.700 Albertans believe for a second that Kearney genuinely wants a pipeline developed? If Kearney

00:02:03.980 truly supports what the MOU proposes, he'll come right out and address the misinformation surrounding

00:02:09.020 the proposed project. He has to make it abundantly clear that neither the province of BC nor the

00:02:14.500 Indigenous bands within it have veto authority over the project. So far he's refused to do so.

00:02:19.540 This isn't a matter of opinion. It's a matter of the Canadian constitution. Interprovincial

00:02:23.920 infrastructure is federal domain. BC has no more authority to block a pipeline from Alberta

00:02:29.220 than Alberta the authority to block a railway line from BC. It's a consideration, isn't it?

00:02:36.080 David Eby's blustering opposition has no power behind it constitutionally. He should be reminded

00:02:40.920 of that. More importantly, though, Indigenous bands have no veto authority over any projects.

00:02:46.660 Canada's constitution obligates the nation to consult, consult with Indigenous bands if any projects are proposed that may impact treaty rights.

00:02:55.500 A pipeline doesn't even impact treaty rights unless it crosses treaty land.

00:02:59.220 No treaties for a lot of that BC, is there?

00:03:00.900 But either way, consult the Indigenous folks is still a nice gesture.

00:03:04.440 Particularly those who might live near the right-of-way, that's fine.

00:03:07.360 After consultation, though, there's no further obligations.

00:03:09.760 whether it's with pipelines or provincial independence, there's been this pervasive

00:03:13.280 myth surrounding the veto abilities of native bands. To be blunt, they haven't got them.

00:03:18.120 Native reserves aren't sovereign nations, no matter what they like to call themselves,

00:03:21.580 and their consent's not required to develop land. And this has been affirmed by the Supreme Court

00:03:26.140 numerous times. Political cowardice has become so entrenched with this issue,

00:03:30.880 liberal government members have been forced to apologize for telling the truth. No way,

00:03:34.740 it doesn't happen very often, apologies or them telling the truth. But recently,

00:03:38.020 in a rare demonstration of personal principles, Justice Minister Sean Fraser dared to utter the

00:03:43.520 truth that Indigenous people have no veto power over the projects. Within 24 hours, Fraser issued

00:03:49.360 a groveling apology for telling the truth. Currently, Liberal MP and Parliamentary Secretary

00:03:55.100 for Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation, I think that's a mouthful to get this name,

00:03:59.980 Tlaib Nurul Mohamed, has been saying on social media and in a CBC interview that Indigenous

00:04:05.260 his consent is required to get a pipeline constructed, constructed, instructed. So far

00:04:10.660 Talib's claims have gone unchallenged by the Prime Minister's office. So is he a rogue MP or is he

00:04:14.760 speaking for the party? Liberal disciplines usually tight when their members go off message, yet

00:04:18.880 Talib's carrying on without hindrance. Premier Daniel Smith's taking a lot of heat from her

00:04:23.560 party membership over signing a deal that attaches many conditions upon Alberta's industries

00:04:27.500 and it appears unlikely the pipeline might ever be approved. She must demand the Prime Minister

00:04:33.220 clarifies whether he expects consent from Indigenous bands in the province of BC to get

00:04:36.800 the job done. No humming and hawing, no weasel words, just a yes or no answer. If the answer is

00:04:41.860 that he expects consent from Indigenous bands in the province, Smith might as well use the MOU for 0.98

00:04:45.400 toilet paper since that's all the value it has. There'll never be consensus and if the Prime

00:04:50.220 Minister abdicates his role as the central authority on these issues, we're all just wasting

00:04:54.020 each other's time. Respectful and meaningful consultation is important. Indigenous citizens

00:04:58.700 must have their concerns heard and addressed when reasonably possible. Having their participation

00:05:03.640 in projects is great too, and many will. Not all of them are going to approve though, and rest

00:05:08.360 assured environmental activists will elevate them to some fabricated hereditary roles and use them

00:05:13.100 as props for the opposition. The federal government must be firm in stating that the project will

00:05:18.260 continue despite some opponents, but so far it's been as firm as a piece of overcooked spaghetti

00:05:23.640 on the issue. Look, no private investor is going to touch the project without assurances of it

00:05:28.420 being completed. No companies are going to expand production in Alberta without expanded ability to

00:05:33.000 get their products to market. Then it's going to be truly time for Albertans to ask what the point

00:05:38.120 is in remaining in Confederation. Really, what's the point? Let's put it to a referendum. I mean,

00:05:42.280 the province can't become any more landlocked than it already is, can it? All right, that's

00:05:46.800 what's going to be going. Let's check in with the news editor. Here we go. Lots to talk about this

00:05:49.760 week. How's it going, Dave? Good. Thanks for giving me a place to hide. Yes. I think he may have gone

00:05:54.280 back in his office now so yeah yeah yeah i see the feet on the desk from here oh excellent excellent

00:05:59.320 hey edmonton was a good time it was the stories of you uh as the western standard hospitality

00:06:05.160 suite doorman yes will become legendary in this time my my scowling face i took my old bar owner

00:06:10.920 skills and applied them to the west i see your bracelet you said f you says the guy one left you

00:06:17.480 and the fight was on i didn't hit him no you didn't hit him you chased after him i did i

00:06:22.600 kicked a couple people out yeah and it was a long day a long night and then we had to drive all the

00:06:27.160 way back and you finally got to sit in your recliner to watch your steelers oh gosh oh man 0.79

00:06:32.840 yeah i didn't need to rush back to watch that uh garbage yeah yeah and what about the seal oh they

00:06:40.760 won they thrashed minnesota vikings making them look like a high school team yes well

00:06:46.760 let your sea chickens have a year and then there you go hey i hear a funny story that um

00:06:52.600 apparently squirrels have eaten all your security

00:06:54.900 cameras. Just one of them.

00:06:56.820 This is the suspect behind it.

00:06:58.780 Yes, one of the, as I was mentioning

00:07:00.820 yes before, Jane keeps, our house is like

00:07:02.860 Fort Knox. We've got cameras all over the place

00:07:04.760 in the woods outside of the house.

00:07:06.660 Nobody sneaks up in that place and

00:07:08.360 unfortunately something had chewed through the cable

00:07:10.940 on one of them back in the woods and I had to

00:07:12.880 replace it. Not a bear or a wolf or

00:07:14.600 something scary? No, I would have seen tracks or

00:07:16.880 something I think because we never saw anything on the camera either

00:07:18.740 so I figured it was to come from behind. Though we did have a

00:07:20.840 Cougar go by a few days, a couple of weeks ago, I guess not.

00:07:22.820 Yeah, dastardly squirrels.

00:07:24.920 Anyways, yeah, holy cow, where do we want to start in the news?

00:07:28.280 Well, why don't we start in B.C.?

00:07:30.300 Major developments in the John Rustad leadership, it's not a scandal, it's a leadership debate.

00:07:38.880 Letter out today, 20 out of 39, so more than half of his caucus have said he's got to go.

00:07:46.600 So surely that's a tipping point.

00:07:48.200 When half your caucus says no, more than half your caucus says no, you've got to go, right?

00:07:52.920 Oh, he's toast.

00:07:53.720 I mean, he'll be impotent in the legislature.

00:07:58.580 You know, it happens so much with these leaders.

00:08:00.440 They become deaf, I guess, because, you know, seeing the signs, 1.00

00:08:04.320 we've been seeing the troubles, we've been seeing this stuff rising within his party in BC for a while now.

00:08:07.980 But it takes, really, until the hammer hits them in the head before they realize, you know, you're beyond the point of no return.

00:08:12.240 Yeah.

00:08:12.880 No, he's a dead man walking.

00:08:14.440 Disturbing story from the alert police force today.

00:08:19.880 They've charged a 17-year-old Calgary high school student with making AI child porn images of his classmates.

00:08:28.480 Yeah, it's like a parent's worst nightmare.

00:08:31.480 So he's facing a long list of charges.

00:08:35.580 A Brooks RCMP officer has been suspended with pay after being charged with assault and assault with choking

00:08:42.820 after an off-duty incident recently.

00:08:48.820 The premier in her medicine hat area writing

00:08:51.960 has been officially now the subject of recall.

00:08:55.640 The petitioners have got the required amount of,

00:08:58.720 they're now going to start collecting signatures

00:09:01.640 to see if they can have an official revote call on Daniel Smith.

00:09:07.600 The long talked about,

00:09:09.140 and I'm sure you'll be discussing this with Dave later on,

00:09:11.580 the Calgary to Banff hydrogen rail line now has been officially sort of the plan for it has been

00:09:18.460 given to the major projects office so we'll see where that's going two and a half billion dollars

00:09:24.860 for that that thing Canadian border services says they have a total of 726 foreign criminals now

00:09:36.060 running loose in the city in the country that they've lost track of considering their incompetence

00:09:42.300 that's not how bad i think there's 30 some thousand 33 000 in general that they've lost

00:09:47.340 track at but of those 33 726 are bad people criminals so known bad criminals among us

00:09:55.580 but they don't take it seriously they're not worried about that no well apparently they're

00:09:59.180 alleging they're deporting 400 every month but then they're getting 500 new files to deal with

00:10:04.860 every month so either way they're not doing their job uh there's a big uh sort of scandal in ottawa

00:10:10.620 the governor general and her four million dollar ice pavilion uh that she's built uh she apparently 1.00

00:10:18.380 went to corporations and said hey why don't you donate some money and i'll give you a tax credit

00:10:23.100 uh so it's kind of a bit uh a bit sketchy i'm a tiny bit mixed on that one when i read it

00:10:28.700 because normally the governor general just said give me money yeah they go straight to the source

00:10:32.780 and spend pure tax dollars on it at least she went out and kind of got some sponsorship for it i mean 1.00

00:10:38.220 she still wants her you know royal uh you know imagery and things i mean it's a rink that we

00:10:43.900 probably don't need whatsoever but among the way they tend to piss away our money that's

00:10:48.060 one of the lesser ways don't they have like an entire river to skate on in the global warming

00:10:53.100 it's not uh i know you were really hit in power you were really impacted earlier this year with

00:10:59.660 the uh maybe it was last year the liberals luxury tax on yachts and supercars yes i know that

00:11:06.060 my lamborghini is so the department of finance officials admitted that they didn't even do a

00:11:12.300 cost benefit analysis of it before christian freeland announced it they don't yeah we'll

00:11:17.020 throw 10 on this now it kind of hurt the boat selling industry in canada uh quite a bit and

00:11:23.340 now the liberals are repealing it but uh there you go and uh the jccf our good friends justice

00:11:29.420 center for constitutional freedoms they're launching a canada-wide campaign to convince

00:11:34.940 provincial governments to bring in legislation similar to what alberta did last week where

00:11:40.620 they're talking about regulatory bodies then they've now sort of overstepped their authority

00:11:46.060 and going into free speech of their their members and online posts and all that sort of stuff jccf

00:11:52.860 just wants them to deal with their you know their industry and their regulations and stuff like that

00:11:58.220 so alberta was way ahead on on that one so and lots of other stuff i uh forgot already

00:12:05.660 or still to come plenty to cover i see you haven't even had time to shave in this last

00:12:09.980 you know what it has been so busy i normally say shave on sunday i have a routine sunday morning i

00:12:15.580 shave but unfortunately i was asleep in your car oh yes that's right you were kind of out for the

00:12:20.140 count yeah i don't think i was very good company for uh for most of that drive oh well you know

00:12:25.980 all i do is rant about politics anyways you need a break from that no i know it is i remember you

00:12:29.900 getting your mcmuffin and then i fell asleep and then i woke up and there's the calgary downtown

00:12:34.940 skyline so like i said i wish i'd let you sleep in then i would have missed that god awful stealers

00:12:38.860 game there you go right who are you playing this week oh the ravens you know as i said i don't

00:12:43.740 hold high hopes of the stealers winning that the way they're looking but you can always count on

00:12:47.740 the beat and 11 hell out of each other when the stealers and the ravens get together so maybe just

00:12:51.020 if only for that sake yeah and that's good football did you see the giants uh field goal

00:12:56.140 kicker on monday night trying to do the field goal oh is that the one he sort of stubbed his

00:13:00.060 toe about a foot behind the ball yeah sometimes you know you can feel what do you see on the

00:13:06.460 yeah you know you talk about suffering as a uh steelers fan but holy cow it's going to be a

00:13:10.860 hard to be a new york city nfl well plus they got that mayor there's just not much

00:13:18.300 going no no i'd be i'd be out of the big apple yeah all right well i'll let you back to the

00:13:23.500 newsroom he seems to be tied up so you can get something feet still up or not though no they're

00:13:27.580 down okay well wish you the best could mean anything all right so yes that is our news

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00:14:17.880 So yeah, where to start with a lot of that, you know, Rustad, and he's in deep, deep trouble,

00:14:26.780 but these political leaders, like I said, so many of them don't leave until the foot is really

00:14:31.120 firmly planted. I guess some of it's just that instinct among them, though, they're type A's, 1.00

00:14:35.940 they're ambitious people, they had to, you know, scramble and claw their way to where they were.

00:14:41.520 They just don't want to stop once they get there.

00:14:44.000 We saw that with Jason Kenney.

00:14:46.960 He had to be forced out by his own members or Ralph Klein in the end even.

00:14:51.020 I mean, arguably the most popular premier in Alberta history, certainly historically.

00:14:57.340 But towards the end, he didn't leave until his own members gave him a really lackluster,

00:15:03.140 I think it was 60% or so, support at the leadership.

00:15:06.880 and you know Rustad he's had people leaving crossing the floor on him starting a new party

00:15:14.280 when you've got a tipping point of a majority of your members saying you know your MLAs your

00:15:20.300 elected members saying we can't support you anymore you have just been neutered you're

00:15:25.760 ineffective he must know this and I think what a lot of people are anticipating though is somehow

00:15:34.080 the B.C. conservative movement has to become unified again. I mean, the hard thing was

00:15:37.940 there was the blow up from Falcon and the B.C. liberals

00:15:42.180 that changed their name to B.C. United or some bloody thing and then just fell completely apart

00:15:46.100 and that's what gave Rustad the start where he came

00:15:49.620 from bringing that party from next to nothing to within a hair's breath

00:15:53.760 of winning a majority in the general election. It's quite an accomplishment

00:15:58.060 but leadership is a tough thing and then trying to hold it together for the four years

00:16:01.920 until the next election.

00:16:02.940 Looks like that's not going to happen.

00:16:04.640 So they're going to have some decisions.

00:16:06.220 Obviously, he's going to step down at some point.

00:16:08.740 They're going to have a leadership race.

00:16:10.340 Who knows who's going to win it?

00:16:12.120 Watch for Jared Yeager, our Western Standard guy in BC.

00:16:15.460 He's on that all the time excellently at westernstandard.news

00:16:19.220 because a lot's going to be breaking.

00:16:21.260 It depends on what they campaign on

00:16:22.720 because they've really got a left-right battle going on in that party,

00:16:26.520 just like we do everywhere.

00:16:28.000 They've got 1BC with Dallas Brody.

00:16:30.720 She was on this show a little while ago, pushing quite hard on the Indigenous issues in some other areas.

00:16:36.420 And meanwhile, you've got parts of the Conservative Party.

00:16:41.020 I guess you'd call them red Tories or whatnot who aren't comfortable with that.

00:16:43.340 Can a new leader unify that bunch?

00:16:45.620 Can they pull it together?

00:16:46.880 Or has somebody as terrible and incompetent as David Eby going to manage to get four more years just because the Conservatives can't get it together?

00:16:56.500 We'll be watching and seeing.

00:16:57.560 One big step's coming up.

00:16:58.500 All right, let's check in with Dave Winnick, or David numero dos, as I like to say.

00:17:04.980 Our second Dave of the day.

00:17:07.380 No jacket?

00:17:08.740 Hey, this got sprung on me.

00:17:09.800 Otherwise, I'd wear a suit for you.

00:17:10.960 Oh, geez.

00:17:11.900 I'm still, well, as we've explained, it's a contract thing.

00:17:14.500 I don't have to wear a tie, but I've got to wear a jacket.

00:17:18.360 Welcome to the Cory Morgan Show.

00:17:19.720 Thanks for having me.

00:17:20.900 I have.

00:17:21.600 It's been quite a while, actually.

00:17:22.540 I think the last time I was on here was when Dave was on vacation.

00:17:24.840 Yeah, well, we got you as an exclusive.

00:17:27.340 now you've been covering some some pretty good stuff out there well actually yeah no the major

00:17:31.480 one today is that the calgary airport to um ban for rail they finally submitted their proposal to

00:17:36.680 the federal major uh projects office just yesterday and they've been doing that for i

00:17:41.200 think several months now they've been kind of putting that together but um apparently now

00:17:44.760 they've been basically waiting for daniel smith to sign that um memorandum of understanding for

00:17:49.000 energy with uh mark carney and basically now they said now's the right time to get that added and

00:17:53.700 They're optimistic that it'll finally get added to the major projects list.

00:17:56.720 There's only 11 major projects on that list so far,

00:17:59.200 but I think this is the very first one that they've had that's Alberta-centric, shall we say.

00:18:03.900 So who's going to pay for this?

00:18:05.740 Well, Adam and Jan Wateros of, I think it's, I believe it's called Lyricon Capital,

00:18:11.840 are financing most of it.

00:18:12.880 They've been the ones backing this for years.

00:18:14.300 I think it's, if I remember correctly, I think it's $2.6 billion project in dollars in total,

00:18:18.660 and they are going to be funding it and other private investors for about $1.5 billion

00:18:22.760 is what the actual original figures are going to be so with that does that mean because there's

00:18:27.900 already a rail line between calgary and banff i grew up in banff as a kid actually it's one of

00:18:31.760 those memories i don't think i've shared on the show but if anybody rode that passenger train

00:18:35.100 that used to go to banff and it would run right through town just before noon every day and uh

00:18:38.440 us kids who were off school for lunch would all line up uh in the woods because we'd play in there

00:18:43.060 during lunchtime and then moon the train as it was going by uh so if they remember any little 0.92

00:18:47.400 white asses they saw whilst they were uh taking the train but there was a passenger line to banff 0.99

00:18:52.320 it's gone now so this means that price they must be building an entire new line they are actually 0.97

00:18:58.760 apparently well i think the line the final stop is at that train station that's the repurposed

00:19:03.240 old train station that's in banff but they're going to have ones i think there's calgary airport

00:19:07.360 downtown stony trail at the trans canada is going to be a stop then they're going to have ones

00:19:11.020 cochrane morley canmore and then banff and i think it was in july or june if i remember correctly

00:19:16.660 all of the mayors from each of those towns sent a letter to uh the prime minister saying that

00:19:21.680 they totally endorsed the project we're hoping that he would get it on the major projects list

00:19:25.000 so it looks like that could be very well a possibility in the near future and apparently

00:19:28.400 the whole line is going to be about roughly they're estimating 150 kilometers yeah so i mean

00:19:33.180 it sounds interesting because i i still travel to visit my father he's in a retirement home out in

00:19:37.200 the bow valley area out there and i drive that highway regularly and it's jammed i mean it's

00:19:41.320 insane especially in summertime if it's a weekend but will this train really reduce that traffic

00:19:46.160 well that's what the well that's their main sort of goal behind it because i mean apparently i

00:19:50.580 think if i remember correctly the whole alberta government i think by 20 i think it's 2035 want

00:19:55.380 to totally increase tourism to alberta so this is kind of playing into that because as you know i

00:19:59.700 mean the way the park is now they're trying to basically discourage people from coming with

00:20:03.860 you know private vehicles you know single like family cars whatnot so they're hoping that this

00:20:07.780 will actually play into that and take away from the traffic and obviously you know now with banff

00:20:11.780 and that the parking is just ridiculous now they took all the parking off main street so they're

00:20:15.540 hoping that this will alleviate some of that pressure going forward in the national park

00:20:19.140 yeah i might i i guess as long as it's a private interest there's just where my ears perk up when

00:20:24.180 when the tax dollars start going and then you see boondoggle but is that a pipeline i'll maintain

00:20:29.220 i'll maintain some optimism i guess because premier smith's always been kind of a trained

00:20:33.060 person you know you heard her husband owned a restaurant in a train car in high river for years

00:20:38.340 trained people are a special breed and and uh i just wouldn't want us diving in i prefer this over

00:20:42.980 that banff to calgary uh or like edmonton to calgary yeah i think this will definitely have

00:20:49.140 definitely benefits and she herself premier smith did say that she wasn't going to prioritize this

00:20:53.760 until that mou was signed but now that the mou is signed obviously they've sent in the project for

00:20:58.720 the for the approval yeah and see what happens so i think it's perfect timing it's more like a bite

00:21:03.400 size uh new rail expansion to try before trying something like calgary edmonton so if it goes

00:21:08.180 well i think we could revisit in a few years yeah exactly and they have a fairly set price for

00:21:12.400 overall for the whole thing so i guess we'll see how it goes going forward right on okay and you've

00:21:16.480 also got some stuff on the pipeline and, well, I put pipeline quotes. I mean, I don't know if

00:21:22.640 we're going to live long. And you're young. You're still going to live long enough to see this thing,

00:21:26.720 but is it ever going to happen? Well, that's the whole thing. If you look at the MOU,

00:21:30.440 if you read between the lines, it seems the more and more people have gone into this,

00:21:33.740 the more it just seems like there's little roadblocks that have been set up increasingly

00:21:36.920 to make sure that this doesn't get done. It sounds good on paper, but as I've said before,

00:21:40.600 there's no private sector proponent that we know of yet. So until that actually happens,

00:21:45.060 and you actually get someone wanting to foot the bill

00:21:46.960 and just give them a blank check,

00:21:48.020 you don't see how that's going to happen.

00:21:49.500 Plus, there's all the implications

00:21:50.820 of co-indigenous ownership.

00:21:53.380 We don't exactly know which indigenous groups

00:21:55.500 that's going to be at either.

00:21:56.620 They haven't talked about that.

00:21:57.700 I saw the other day that there was,

00:21:59.220 I think it was the Métis tribes of Alberta

00:22:01.140 were talking about that.

00:22:02.540 And the coastal First Nations,

00:22:03.660 who you were thinking would be the ones

00:22:05.180 that would be involved,

00:22:05.900 want nothing to do with this so far,

00:22:07.300 but who knows what'll happen there.

00:22:08.520 Well, they're busy.

00:22:09.040 They got a lot of garbage to clean up.

00:22:10.260 Just a bit, yeah.

00:22:11.820 I see it. 1.00

00:22:12.760 Clean up your own damn mess 1.00

00:22:13.700 before worrying about the pipes. 0.99

00:22:14.640 Once I see a spotless Cowichan area, then you can perhaps start being a critic because there hasn't been a pipe leaking.

00:22:20.740 Trans Mountain's been going since the late 40s through there.

00:22:24.740 Pipes are safe. Garbage dumps, on the other hand, are a real problem.

00:22:27.720 Oh, you would think so, yeah.

00:22:28.900 So there's other clauses, things that you mentioned in your story, like buy Canadian.

00:22:32.700 I mean, some of the materials and everything, it's going to...

00:22:34.640 Steel. The whole thing's Canadian steel.

00:22:36.740 I mean, you just look what happened here just recently with Algoma just laying off a thousand employees and whatnot.

00:22:41.420 And the whole steel industry at the moment, if I remember right.

00:22:44.640 I think it was Algoma got $500 million in government cash here recently, so now they're laying off 1,000 people.

00:22:49.960 And obviously, I mean, Canada historically is kind of a, how would I put it?

00:22:53.620 Basically, we've exported, I think, over half of our output.

00:22:56.660 Usually about 90% of that goes to the Americans.

00:22:59.900 But at this time as well, I think that if I remember, if I'm reading this correctly,

00:23:03.640 I think specialized pipeline steel capacity needs about $6 million to $1 billion in new investment

00:23:08.320 at the exact time that a bunch of Canadian mills like Algoma are shutting down and basically getting rid of workers.

00:23:13.940 So I don't really know how the whole steel thing by Canadian steel is going to really work because the costs are just going to go up when everything's tightened, supplies tightening.

00:23:21.040 So that's another thing that you kind of have to read in between the lines on this MOU, because they do say that they kind of want to promote Canadian steel, but it doesn't specify that they have to.

00:23:29.680 Well, it might be a selling point a bit.

00:23:31.100 I mean, there's opposition across the country in battles going on.

00:23:33.940 The bloc leader is blustering.

00:23:36.580 Somehow he expects his welfare checks to keep coming, even if we can't pump oil for him.

00:23:41.520 But, I mean, with a hurting steel industry in central Canada, you'd think that, you know, domestic, because it is the trade war going on.

00:23:50.380 That is certainly hitting them hard.

00:23:51.840 50% tariffs don't exactly help, do they?

00:23:53.560 But they've got to give us a good price for crying out loud.

00:23:56.100 Well, you would think so.

00:23:56.900 And I mean, as well, I mean, where's a lot of the steel come from?

00:23:58.980 Metallurgical coal.

00:23:59.660 And we obviously know what the whole thing is with coal in Canada.

00:24:01.980 Just recently, the Coal Association of Canada actually sent a statement to the government because they want metallurgical coal designated as a critical mineral in Canada, just like it is in the United States.

00:24:12.880 So we'll have to see how much red tape needs to be waded through before that actually comes about.

00:24:17.680 Yeah, lots of complexity going on with it.

00:24:22.340 I mean, the metallurgical coal has been a big issue in southern Alberta and whether or not we're going to start mining or not.

00:24:27.760 Yeah, on the eastern slopes, yeah, there's still all that going on.

00:24:29.760 referendum on that coming up uh soon there's a possibility yeah we'll see i see a question from a

00:24:35.280 uh listener there uh jackal and saying why does a rail line strictly in alberta have to go through

00:24:39.600 the major projects office but um because it would go into the national park it does yeah it is going

00:24:46.080 into another province obviously because well the main route that they want to do is out to prince

00:24:49.760 rupert and that so i think yeah i think that's the main reason why i would have to go through

00:24:53.040 an actual federal major that's the pipe actually i'm sorry i took i was i'm switching oh you're

00:24:56.880 talking to the rail. I told you I was going to throw you for a loop somewhere anyway.

00:25:00.080 So the rail line, you know, but it's going through the major projects office. And I'm guessing though,

00:25:05.280 again, perhaps the fact that it goes into the building. Yeah, it's the building as well under

00:25:08.800 the criteria, I should say, under the Building Canada Act, as well as why it has to go through

00:25:13.120 that. So it has to have federal approval because as you said, it goes through the national park.

00:25:16.400 Yeah. Okay. So that's part of it. You're talking about the pipeline,

00:25:19.440 have pipelines on the mine. Yeah. Well, they're both big projects, potentially going,

00:25:23.200 one might have a better chance than the other. That will use a lot of steel as well. I mean,

00:25:26.320 absolutely are moving along so uh what else have you got in the cooker right now what are you

00:25:32.020 working on oh well there is something that'll be coming out shortly i'll just say that has to deal

00:25:36.440 with um the uh recall nicolaitis campaign shall we say that'll be coming out here shortly because

00:25:41.080 there's as you know there's a whole bunch i think now it's up to 14 recall campaigns or whatnot for

00:25:46.040 um targeting um ucp mlas across the province obviously and now there's one just this morning

00:25:50.400 that was um targeting uh premier daniel smith and her writing as well yeah well in my view at least

00:25:54.980 with that one it indicates just how they're using this just to to mess with the system i mean anybody

00:25:59.780 with common sense knows you've got to get what 60 of those who voted in the last election to sign

00:26:06.020 saying they want her out yeah and then you hold another vote and if it's a yes then you have a

00:26:11.680 by-election you have a by-election this is brooks medicine hat i mean uh you know you could run a

00:26:17.700 tree stump with the ucp banner hanging off of it gonna win so and they know that yeah they're just

00:26:23.840 spinning the wheels i mean it's people got to realize too to get a you know the reporting on

00:26:28.120 these as if they're done deals for these recalls i mean all a person has to do is fill out a form

00:26:31.600 and and put in a deposit and the recalls starts oh absolutely that's the thing and i mean a bunch

00:26:36.820 of them if you look at some of the recall the actual petitions a bunch of them it's clearly

00:26:40.400 just politically motivated has nothing to do with the actual mla in that riding and what they've

00:26:45.460 been doing for the job because some of them are doing a fairly good job for the most part from

00:26:49.260 a bunch of the people i've talked to in certain ridings and as well it seems as well that some

00:26:52.740 of these the first recall campaigns seem to be targeting ridings where the last race in the last

00:26:57.080 election was fairly close so they might have something there as well yeah well the nickel

00:27:00.940 ladies one was fairly close and and he was he is the education minister so i mean that is the hot 0.99

00:27:08.260 button well that was notwithstanding clause was the big thing obviously sending the teachers back

00:27:12.060 after the strike and whatnot a lot of people were mad about that there's some people that you could

00:27:16.060 say um maybe anti-oil and gas activists shall we say are taking advantage of this that could be one

00:27:22.260 little thing that we might be talking about later okay well we'll be watching for that I mean that's

00:27:27.460 part of this whole thing I mean the intent of this legislation it was to get you know if you've got

00:27:32.180 a an MLA who's had some mental health issues it's happened before things like that or committed a

00:27:38.220 crime but hasn't been convicted or something really beyond the pale or if it turns out it's

00:27:42.280 like a senator you know way back in the day we had uh what was his name Andy Thompson I think it was

00:27:47.500 he was hiding in mexico for his whole time in the senate oh there was a video he wouldn't even come

00:27:52.960 to canada you know just to show up and and even vote and yeah no way to get rid of him as a senate

00:27:59.520 but those are the things that recall was supposed to be for you know when you just can't handle

00:28:02.920 them anymore i don't see anybody in the legislature right now that we couldn't survive two years

00:28:07.400 without the chance to vote again yeah no exactly i agree 100 but no i just think it's like you said

00:28:12.180 like it's the intentions are well and good but i think a lot of people will just take advantage of

00:28:16.480 and use it for their own personal gain yeah which sucks because i mean what might happen then is the

00:28:20.400 government is going to repeal or dramatically tweak it back to where it was where it makes it

00:28:23.600 fully impossible to have a you know recall and oh exactly like that old saying goes you know this

00:28:27.600 is why we can't have nice things that's exactly it well i don't know i'm mixed on it i hope they

00:28:32.800 don't succeed and get rid of the legislation i think they should let it go and let a bunch of

00:28:36.400 them fail i mean it's a lot of resources and effort people don't understand how hard it is

00:28:40.640 is the petition.

00:28:41.540 I mean, real petitions, paper, witnessed with a deadline.

00:28:45.160 Yeah, knocking on doors, et cetera.

00:28:46.540 And on recall, technically, everybody working on that campaign has to live in the constituency.

00:28:50.940 They do.

00:28:51.540 That's been another thing that there's been people talking about people being bussed down

00:28:54.700 from Edmonton and Red Deer to certain ridings in Calgary as well.

00:28:57.560 Yeah, which would certainly give the government grounds to say, well, sorry, they fouled the

00:29:01.880 process and this one's no longer fouled.

00:29:03.720 They're trying to figure out what elections Alberta is going to do about it, but I guess

00:29:06.160 we'll wait and see.

00:29:06.780 Yeah, well, I haven't been liking where they've been there lately.

00:29:08.420 I was just curious how many do you think any of these will actually succeed any of these recall petitions if they allow the outside union and let's not beat around the bush their union people if they allow it to happen for them to get on the ground and pound the pavement that hard maybe you know a couple of them could happen if it really is as the intent is supposed to be the people who live in that constituency doing it themselves volunteering

00:29:32.600 themselves getting out and getting those signatures i think it's really unlikely because i don't think

00:29:36.760 any of those mlas have done anything that yeah maybe one in the urban area but none of the ones 0.99

00:29:40.520 in rural areas like grand prairie or something i find it hard to believe that that would actually

00:29:44.440 go through and it depends on how informed the person is like with this kind of campaign you

00:29:48.520 know part of it with fabio or also known as casick uh and his you know let's uh have a status quo

00:29:55.160 referendum but what they did was set up an urban center so they could pack people in from all

00:30:00.040 directions to work on it and and everything else uh and they had nice weather that's a big thing

00:30:05.880 because they set up a lot of farmers markets and sporting events and anywhere you can get a large

00:30:10.440 gathering of people with a recall one you can't do that you say even if you could set up at a

00:30:15.480 farmer's market well you don't know who's from in your constituency or not you got to be really

00:30:18.920 careful with that uh otherwise you don't have those you've got to go door to door yeah and

00:30:24.280 that's a lot of work that's tough yeah yeah gotta have a lot of volunteers for that too i'm not the

00:30:28.360 the one sweating it in the government offices, you know, with one or two of these might happen

00:30:32.580 and embarrass them or whatnot, but I don't think you should just let it go and let it fail. But

00:30:36.380 watch like a hawk. As soon as you see that bus full of union maggots coming in, 1.00

00:30:40.360 well, sorry, done, not happening. I 100% agree with you. Here's the process. Well, 0.91

00:30:44.600 geez, well, that's no fun. Better when people disagree. We'll have opportunity enough that

00:30:49.680 you've shaken off your hangover from the AGM. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think me and the rest of the

00:30:54.840 staff had a pretty good uh party there yeah it was fun the second night with sipping my diet coke

00:31:00.100 watching you guys uh your conversation getting deeper and deeper as you went along yeah no i

00:31:06.000 think it was a fairly successful agm for the most part a bit of controversy obviously with the whole

00:31:09.340 alberta independence thing and jeff rath causing a bit of a stir with the alberta prosperity project

00:31:14.120 guys and whatnot but on the whole i think it went fairly well and i think by the end of it after um

00:31:18.280 the premier did her uh keynote address i think she had a lot of people on her side still i think so

00:31:23.060 So I think maybe a bit of the independence movement's numbers might be a little out of whack, I think, in terms of people that are 100% for it.

00:31:30.600 But I don't know.

00:31:31.460 There's so many conflicting reports on that.

00:31:33.140 I don't know what you think.

00:31:33.960 Yeah, well, you can't measure public opinion by the views of the people who show up for an AGM.

00:31:39.220 I mean, it was great to see 4,400 people who paid a pretty good fee and have to go to Edmonton in less than perfect weather.

00:31:46.860 Those are very dedicated politicos.

00:31:49.000 These are people dialed in and holding strong views on something or another.

00:31:54.340 But your average person on the ground, that's a different mindset altogether.

00:31:59.000 So that tells us where the party's sitting, but not necessarily where the province is sitting,

00:32:02.940 which is a danger that a leader always has to work that balance out between what your party stalwarts want,

00:32:09.180 but what's going to make you electable, which is the goal in the end as well.

00:32:13.160 And I think she's got quite a conundrum going on.

00:32:15.060 I think so.

00:32:15.640 I was going to ask you, do you think that that's kind of maybe fractured the party a bit now?

00:32:19.500 It seems like people on the right always have a history of infighting,

00:32:23.180 especially with stuff like this.

00:32:23.860 We're our own worst enemies.

00:32:25.140 I was ranting a bit about that earlier.

00:32:28.080 All our history of past premieres, they haven't been taken out by elections.

00:32:31.660 They've been taken out by their own members every time.

00:32:34.240 Jason Kenney, et cetera.

00:32:35.660 Kenney, Klein, I guess Getty was getting on the brink.

00:32:40.580 It's pressure from underneath.

00:32:42.780 Stelmack, Redford, that's just the way it goes.

00:32:45.620 Smith's still popular, but it can and does change.

00:32:47.800 I pointed out Klein earlier in the show because he was madly popular in Alberta.

00:32:51.360 Oh, yeah, 100%.

00:32:52.080 But after enough time, he became, you know, not reviled.

00:32:57.180 Thankfully, he went when he did because it would have gotten worse.

00:32:59.400 But his own members had said it's time.

00:33:01.400 So it can turn on Smith.

00:33:04.060 My thoughts, again, I think she's got to give the Alberta Prosperity Project,

00:33:08.040 those activists, the hardcore independent supporters.

00:33:10.860 I'm an independent supporter.

00:33:12.960 Give them a vent.

00:33:14.500 Get the referendum going.

00:33:15.820 That's my view.

00:33:16.420 That's what I've pushed repeatedly.

00:33:18.220 Schedule it.

00:33:18.820 I mean, I don't think Smith should get up and say, I support independence.

00:33:21.500 She wasn't given that mandate.

00:33:23.980 She doesn't have enough popular support. 0.79

00:33:26.120 But I think she's got a good case to make and say, well, look, on the left, Lukasik wants one on independence.

00:33:32.000 On the right, APB wants one on independence.

00:33:35.020 It would be remiss, you know, not to say let's have one in late June.

00:33:39.380 I think, just my own speculation for what little it's worth, a lot of those things in the MOU has hard deadlines in them, which is kind of a good point.

00:33:46.720 Saying, okay, this is it.

00:33:48.200 But she also had nine points that were supposed to happen by Grey Cup that didn't really happen.

00:33:52.340 Yeah, she said the MOU, I think, addressed seven of those nine.

00:33:54.200 Yeah.

00:33:54.560 Something like that, if I remember.

00:33:55.540 Something like that.

00:33:56.220 And still, it's all just a piece of paper promising things, but whatever.

00:33:59.920 But if you made the referendum mid-June, because all those deadlines hit in April and June,

00:34:04.980 that there gives her some leverage when you're wanting to cross those things off that checklist

00:34:09.740 list to get things done.

00:34:11.120 As a referendum campaign is going on, if they had a win,

00:34:16.080 some of those things checked off that could deflate

00:34:18.420 some of the independence movement. And if this thing

00:34:20.420 is spinning its wheels and it looks like Carney's

00:34:22.180 jerking us around, that

00:34:24.360 referendum support's going to go up. Well, I was just about to

00:34:26.380 ask you, if this MOU leads to nothing

00:34:28.260 and no pipeline, do you think that's going to just skyrocket

00:34:30.420 independence sentiment? I don't know what skyrocket,

00:34:32.420 but it'll definitely solidify it and make it grow

00:34:34.400 because, again, people have to wonder what the point

00:34:36.460 is anymore.

00:34:38.720 But it would just, you know, politically

00:34:40.340 even just takes that pressure out of her 0.79

00:34:42.380 party. You've got Jeff Rath,

00:34:44.300 mitch sylvester uh dennis modery chris scott great guys pushing the independence thing but

00:34:49.080 they're spinning their wheels they're stuck right now so that's why the pressure's going to the

00:34:52.960 party that's the only vent they have that's the only place they can exert pressure for this and

00:34:57.200 that's why she dealt with a room full of hardcore independence people in a room if they're all 1.00

00:35:01.200 pounding the pavement on a referendum campaign they're out of her hair then she could work on

00:35:05.380 the health care reform she can work on the railway to banff she can work on all these other things

00:35:10.160 in an MOU, whilst

00:35:11.840 the Independence guys are busy doing their thing.

00:35:14.560 Absolutely. That's my thoughts, but

00:35:15.940 again, I'm just going to babbles online.

00:35:17.760 About the same, I would say. Right on.

00:35:20.020 Well, I appreciate all those updates and the stories.

00:35:22.120 I'm looking forward to that other one coming up to see you

00:35:24.080 at the possible feet of Mr.

00:35:26.520 Nicolaides. That's it.

00:35:28.420 Education minister. Right on.

00:35:29.900 It's easier to pronounce that than the last name.

00:35:31.400 And all the rest of the good stuff going on.

00:35:33.520 Thanks again, Dave. Thank you, Corey. Appreciate it.

00:35:35.820 See you later in the newsroom. Will do. See you again.

00:35:37.480 Right on.

00:35:37.960 all right guys yes lots on the go lots of speculation it's gonna get a chance to

00:35:43.800 chatter with somebody other than dave on these things well different dave anyways he's got

00:35:48.560 some different views of his own we got a lot going on so yeah reporting on the agm in general though

00:35:54.120 i mean i think as far as agms go it was still a win like the world has changed politically in

00:36:02.340 alberta and i'm gonna give credit to somebody who you know was a character and so on but the guy

00:36:07.840 who really did it in changing member-driven type of politics in Alberta was David Parker with the

00:36:16.660 Take Back Alberta movement. His was, you know, almost obsessively focused on getting rid of

00:36:21.580 Jason Kenney. That was the chip on his shoulder. That was his beef. But the mechanism he used to

00:36:26.440 do it, you see so many other advocacy groups, they go into advertising, they go into doing

00:36:31.360 stunts, they do all sorts of other things to get their way or try to change public opinion.

00:36:36.600 opinion. What David Parker did was utilize the party's own structure to remove a leader. He went

00:36:44.480 out and organized constituency by constituency by constituency. He sold memberships within the

00:36:50.560 party by the thousands and people were inspired to take part. There was, it was kind of a magical

00:36:56.020 part of timing as well because COVID had happened. People didn't have much they could do outside of

00:37:01.060 their homes and they were pretty frustrated and they were extremely ticked off with Kenny and

00:37:05.880 with things in general. So people who'd never considered buying a political membership before

00:37:10.440 were buying political memberships by the thousands. And in the end, with a huge hard-fought voting

00:37:17.600 campaign within the party itself, Jason Kenney was dislodged as the leader of the party, a sitting

00:37:22.760 premier. Now, Parker kind of faded off as did the Take Back Alberta movement itself.

00:37:31.480 But thousands and thousands of people renewed their memberships. That's what we're seeing.

00:37:34.740 thousands and thousands of people are now engaged who weren't engaged before. They're still going

00:37:39.380 to AGMs. They're still participating in their constituency associations. They're still working

00:37:44.460 the ground. And that's changed everything. That's why last year in Red Deer, their AGM,

00:37:51.340 the UCP AGM was the biggest one ever held in Canadian history. Even though there really

00:37:55.560 wasn't anything all that controversial happening. There was a leadership review for Smith, but

00:37:59.980 She came in well over 90% support from the members who were there.

00:38:03.740 But you have now these thousands of engaged people who want to come out to these things.

00:38:08.620 When the Wildrose Party was heading, you know, they were the official opposition.

00:38:13.620 We would hold AGMs.

00:38:14.740 I remember one in Calgary at the TELUS Convention Center.

00:38:17.840 I think we had maybe 800 people, and we were thrilled by how huge this thing was, how big it was.

00:38:22.380 now as I said Edmonton expensive bad weather and still 4,400 people paid the money drove all the

00:38:32.560 way up there to take part in policy formulation voting for their uh that was something that was

00:38:38.620 you know kind of interesting going on in this one there was a definite slate trying to push with

00:38:41.880 some of the party executive positions and of course as I keep mentioning with the others and

00:38:45.780 Dave mentioned both Dave's mentioned the socializing the reason you know that uh Dave number one had to

00:38:50.780 sleep all the way back from Edmonton to Calgary that morning. As I only drink diet coke so I was

00:38:57.840 fine but some people were a little bleary-eyed but that's the important part and you know

00:39:00.980 we talk about the hospitality suite uh yeah the western standard held it was huge free drinks

00:39:07.500 the works quite a party going on. Politics can be fun it doesn't always have to be drudgery and you

00:39:13.560 kind of need that when you're sitting through a whole day of voting on policy and people fighting

00:39:17.720 over the placement of a comma in a policy document or something like that. And that's kind of part of

00:39:21.500 what comes with it. To be able to cut loose at the suites and so on and socialize. You're getting

00:39:26.860 together with other people of the same mind and you bond. This is a powerful, powerful party.

00:39:34.240 This is, again, the people who do love Smith still at this point, getting together, uniting,

00:39:41.620 having a good time together, sharing what they have in common with things. And that means that

00:39:47.260 UCP is formidable, very much so. And if you're an organizer, whether it's an advocacy group or a

00:39:54.120 political party or whatever, just keep that in mind. You want to make your group strong. Make

00:39:58.660 sure it's not always drudgery. Have events in your constituency that are fun. Get together, do things

00:40:03.980 where you can socialize. You want your people are truly what makes that party and you want them to

00:40:10.820 know each other by name. You want them to look forward to coming out to these things and not

00:40:14.520 feel it's an obligation. So again, and I have a lot of differences with Mr. Parker. We've had

00:40:19.220 those differences a lot, but I do have to tip a hat to him. He engaged his province and it stayed

00:40:23.120 that way. But now we got to make sure, or at least Premier Smith has to make sure that she can keep 1.00

00:40:29.320 this under control. She's got the tiger by the tail. And I do feel a referendum is the best tool

00:40:37.880 to do that. I don't think she should take a side in one. I don't think she should become full pro

00:40:43.440 independence, that would be crazy. It would be political suicide. It would lead to Premier

00:40:46.640 Nenshi. And then you'll never, ever, ever have a referendum vote, or at least not while he's alive

00:40:51.480 or in power. But she's got a very good case to say it's the will of Albertans to hold one.

00:40:57.900 Would a referendum win tomorrow? No. No, I really don't think so. I think at best tomorrow, 30,

00:41:03.680 maybe 35% if a referendum was held. But with six months of campaigning, with the MOU proving itself

00:41:10.560 to be complete junk and garbage and just a dodge a distraction a pretty thing to hang over there

00:41:14.660 for Albertans whilst he ignores what we need that can change and that can change fast and a lot of 0.98

00:41:21.300 things can change fast you know talk about populism we you know Brexit for example uh you know not

00:41:26.800 necessarily the best example of a clean break or anything but still people who poo-pooed it when

00:41:32.100 that campaign was getting going over there people said it was never going to happen the people will

00:41:35.600 never go that way it was all the academics all of the tall foreheads all of the media all the usual

00:41:40.400 clowns talking down to people saying, you know, the masses don't want this. This is dumb. Don't 1.00

00:41:45.200 do it. Well, guess what? They were wrong. And people actually use that vote to give them the

00:41:49.140 middle finger. They used it to push back. So if a referendum campaign is held in Alberta, it won't

00:41:54.240 be important just how much the proponents of independence campaign, but how the rest of the

00:42:01.320 country and the opponents to independence respond to it. Because if they talk down their noses to

00:42:06.900 Albertans. They insult Albertans. And God, we get a lot of it, right? Where are the hillbillies?

00:42:11.160 Where are the rednecks? I saw somebody else saying, oh, it's going to be Texas North. And

00:42:14.700 that's my post online was so. He called that a bad thing. I can think of worse things than being

00:42:20.160 prosperous and free. But don't take a referendum for granted on either side of the issue. Because

00:42:28.000 we have an activated galvanized electorate. And the Alberta Prosperity Project, I'm not a member

00:42:34.200 of them. They've spoken at some of their chapter meetings. They've done quite a job on organizing

00:42:40.500 all around the province. They do have hundreds of thousands of people ready to roll when the

00:42:45.500 referendum comes. That's part of what the problem is. They've got them ready. They're sitting there,

00:42:49.520 you know, they're like racehorses in the gate. They want to get at it. And the gate's not opening

00:42:54.360 and the gate's not opening. And that's why, again, that pressure's turning inwards. And we saw Smith

00:42:57.840 booed at her own AGM. She's still very popular. There's no doubt about it. But when you were

00:43:05.500 booed at your own AGM, you do have to take that seriously. And I mean, it was what she was saying

00:43:09.400 rather than her herself. And yeah, the elephant in the room was indigenous bands. You got to stand 0.98

00:43:17.560 up to them. You know, and even if it's not just the pipeline guys, we've really screwed this

00:43:21.980 country up with this mythology and giving a certain race of people a veto power and authority

00:43:27.560 that they really, it's just dividing us and it's not working. Things are getting worse and worse

00:43:32.120 on reserves. Go out and have a look at one. Check out my YouTube channel, Corey Morgan. Search it

00:43:36.540 out on YouTube. I've been charged by the Siksika Band for exposing how bad it is there after they

00:43:41.780 were given $1.2 billion. It's failing. It's failing them. It's hurting them. It's costing us.

00:43:49.220 It's failing them. Here's another one just came out. The government of BC gave $6 million to

00:43:53.900 three First Nations as that claim Vancouver is their ancestral territory ahead of the FIFA World

00:43:59.580 Cup. How the Musqueam, Squamish and some other unpronounceable First Nation will spend the cash 0.99

00:44:05.260 has not been revealed. In other words, just here, have some money, shut up. But they won't shut up. 0.95

00:44:09.260 They're just taking more money, taking more money, taking more money. We saw in the case of BC as

00:44:16.540 well, University of Victoria, Francis Whittowson was arrested for carrying a sign saying, where's

00:44:23.260 the 215. It was talking about the hoax in Kamloops of the fake burial of 215 children out there.

00:44:30.340 Arrested for trying to discuss this sort of thing. We need resolution. Not throwing more money at it.

00:44:35.240 That band was given $12 million, even more than these guys got for doing nothing with the FIFA

00:44:41.540 World Cup coming along. It's an extortion racket at this point. They were given $12 million to

00:44:46.900 search for bodies. We're supposedly all in one small field and they didn't dig a hole.

00:44:50.680 and they want more money. They always want more money. And you know, I could live with it if

00:44:56.540 everybody was living the high life and they were doing all right on these reserves, but they aren't.

00:45:00.280 They're in squalor and there's garbage all over the place and there's social ills and they're

00:45:06.160 dying. They're dying young. That's how bad it is. I've talked about that before. Search it out.

00:45:11.760 The average male First Nations person in Alberta dies 19 years younger than everybody else.

00:45:17.440 Try to tell me that we're supposed to maintain this system when that's the stat.

00:45:20.620 All right, that's what I got today, guys.

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Western Standard - December 04, 2025

Quit pretending we need indigenous consent!

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