Western Standard - August 23, 2024


Singh complains about Singh


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

165.37646

Word Count

7,705

Sentence Count

590

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Who's the dastardly person keeping Justin Trudeau in power that Jagmeet Singh is so upset about? Who could it be? Who's destroying the country? We're going to get to the bottom of it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good day. Today is August 21st, 2024. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline. I'm joined, as always, by Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Henniford.
00:00:15.580 Good evening, Derek. So much to say, so little time, eh?
00:00:18.780 There we go.
00:00:19.280 There we go.
00:00:20.020 And Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
00:00:23.300 Always a pleasure.
00:00:24.260 Always. Well, we pay you to say you enjoy my time.
00:00:27.240 Yes, well, let me think.
00:00:29.900 I don't know. You won't go there.
00:00:32.260 We've got a great show today.
00:00:34.620 Jagmeet Singh complains about Jagmeet Singh.
00:00:39.840 Jagmeet Singh is very upset that somebody, someone, has been propping up Justin Trudeau and keeping him in power, destroying quality of life in Canada.
00:00:50.340 We're going to discuss who that dastardly person keeping Justin Trudeau in power that Jagmeet Singh is so upset about, who could it be?
00:01:02.600 Who could it be? Who could it be the one who's keeping this guy in power who's destroying the country?
00:01:06.700 We're going to talk about it.
00:01:07.980 I promise you we're going to get to the bottom of it.
00:01:10.140 A professor, Gotel, at the University of Alberta, says that Daniel Smith has been touring, quote, white Alberta.
00:01:20.760 Yeah. Very interesting.
00:01:23.020 This is a person who, well, people mortgage their houses to send their kids to go listen to this person.
00:01:30.660 This person is quoted by the Supreme Court and under former Premier, Alberta Premier Richard Notley, even had some government gigs.
00:01:37.000 This is someone who thinks that checking out touring small towns in Alberta is, you may as well just start burning crosses and walking around in pee-stained bedsheets.
00:01:49.380 Harley Davidson, an iconic, I don't even have to say anything about Harley Davidson, an iconic motorcycle brand.
00:01:58.600 Well, that brand was in real trouble as people start to target companies, major corporations that engage in DEI and other kind of woke policies.
00:02:10.480 Well, they got an earful, especially around Sturgis, as motorcycle enthusiasts gathered there.
00:02:17.660 Just as Indian, which I proudly ride, announced that they were never going to go woke.
00:02:24.220 They're definitely not changing their name.
00:02:25.860 They were coming under huge pressure, and they've abandoned it.
00:02:31.380 They're the latest major North American corporation to refocus business, to focus on, I don't know, business.
00:02:40.620 And if we have done, we're going to get to it.
00:02:43.120 The CN going off the rails.
00:02:46.240 Major strike, actually.
00:02:49.700 The deadline's tonight.
00:02:50.720 So actually everything we say on that today could be entirely reasonable.
00:02:54.720 Or it could be completely useless information by then.
00:02:58.600 But we'll see.
00:02:59.840 But before we get into that, I want to talk to you about something.
00:03:03.640 If the name Ted Byfield brings back fond memories, we've got a party for you.
00:03:08.640 On September 25th, Toasting Ted will honor the great conservative publisher of the Alberta Report magazine.
00:03:17.000 Yes, that's the same Alberta, well, sort of same Alberta report that is now one of the publications that will be relaunched by the Western Standard coming up in September.
00:03:27.200 Bagpipes, singing, live auction, stakes and speeches by Premier Daniel Smith, Preston Manning, and Stephen Harper.
00:03:34.820 For more information on this excellent event, which will have many of the Western Standard luminaries there, go to toastingted.ca.
00:03:43.840 Again, go to toastingted.ca, get your tickets.
00:03:47.360 This is a very important event.
00:03:49.180 The real who's who of the Alberta conservative movement are all going to be there under one roof.
00:03:54.760 Kind of a gathering of the families, if you will.
00:03:57.780 Don't tell Nenshi this is not a mob event.
00:04:01.200 Some of you, Corey will get the reference on that one.
00:04:03.200 Oh, yes.
00:04:04.480 The Wendell's a little preachy.
00:04:05.880 Indeed.
00:04:07.040 Okay, gentlemen.
00:04:09.280 Let's start with Singh versus Singh.
00:04:15.280 Well, someone doesn't sing for their supper.
00:04:18.320 Well, that's a headline we've got to use.
00:04:19.840 All right.
00:04:21.040 All right.
00:04:23.120 Okay.
00:04:23.800 So, federal NDP leader, Jagmeet Singh, very upset.
00:04:29.660 Very upset that someone has been keeping Justin Trudeau in power.
00:04:37.040 Justin Trudeau is a bad prime minister.
00:04:39.080 Things are getting worse.
00:04:40.580 Someone's been keeping him in power.
00:04:42.080 We're going to get to the bottom of it in this discussion right now.
00:04:44.880 So, we're going to pull up his tweet here from yesterday.
00:04:48.940 Justin Trudeau told Canadians things would be better.
00:04:52.440 Instead, they've gotten worse.
00:04:55.000 Families are losing their homes.
00:04:56.280 Landlords are making record profits and rents have doubled.
00:04:59.940 Our movement is going to take power away from greedy CEOs and give it back to the people.
00:05:06.200 Okay.
00:05:07.140 So, we'll break this down.
00:05:10.260 Apparently, inflation has nothing to do with, you know, monetary policy.
00:05:14.340 Government printing money.
00:05:15.900 Government spending money doesn't have, which inflates the monetary supply.
00:05:19.020 But that's not causing inflation.
00:05:21.280 It's people who own, you know, a basement apartment renting it out.
00:05:27.000 They're the problem, gentlemen.
00:05:30.180 But that's not the interesting part.
00:05:32.700 Really interesting part of what he says.
00:05:34.120 Justin Trudeau told Canadians things would be better.
00:05:37.160 Instead, they've gotten worse.
00:05:38.620 Well, what is keeping Justin Trudeau in power?
00:05:44.140 It would be something they called a supply and, or it's a confidence and supply agreement, which formed an effect of coalition between the liberals and NDP.
00:05:55.040 There's one man who, right now, could snap his fingers and trigger an election, which would almost certainly remove said Justin Trudeau, who's making things worse here, according to Singh, from power.
00:06:10.540 Let's start with you, Nigel.
00:06:11.560 Do you think it even dawns on Singh that he is a part of the problem here, that he is, after Justin Trudeau, the most important person in the federal government at this point?
00:06:25.960 Of course it dawns on him.
00:06:27.880 But he's also very aware that there are a number of members of his party that need to go to October of next year in order for their pensions to vest.
00:06:38.120 There are, in fact, a number of them, I think there's as many as 80 out of a parliament of 338, who are in the same situation of having to fill in a full six years.
00:06:51.320 But a lot of them, obviously, are NDP and liberal.
00:06:55.000 They even delayed the date of the election, which was to be the 21st of October, but which is now the 28th of October,
00:07:03.180 said it was so that it didn't clash with a religious holiday, but, in fact, put those 80 MPs over the line.
00:07:13.820 Those who lose will maintain their pensions.
00:07:18.200 So this is very typical politician talk.
00:07:23.120 He knows darn well that he could bring the prime minister down in a morning by simply saying,
00:07:28.940 we're not doing this anymore, and, by the way, restore his reputation as a politician and a statesman in doing so.
00:07:37.080 However, he doesn't and won't.
00:07:40.460 And that, I'm afraid, is the cynical state of Canadian politics today.
00:07:45.280 On the bottom of Jagmeet Singh's tweet here, promoting that someone's keeping Justin Trudeau in power,
00:07:55.500 is a community note.
00:07:58.660 Readers added context they thought people might want to know.
00:08:02.020 Important context.
00:08:03.220 Justin Trudeau is in government because of a confidence and supply agreement with Jagmeet Singh.
00:08:08.400 By entering into this agreement, Mr. Singh is effectively propping up the government he's complaining about above.
00:08:13.020 And then it links to the news release of said agreement at pm.gc.ca.
00:08:19.040 That's prime minister, essentially, .gc.ca.
00:08:24.840 Wow.
00:08:27.800 You know, consistency in politics is not rewarded, generally.
00:08:33.160 I value consistency.
00:08:35.020 You know, if a conservative says, I believe in free markets and supply and demand should set prices,
00:08:40.400 I say, well, what about supply management?
00:08:43.760 Let's talk about supply management.
00:08:45.160 And if they don't have a straight answer there, that's hypocrisy.
00:08:47.780 I don't like it.
00:08:48.460 I don't vote for them.
00:08:50.500 I'm not a probably target voter demographic of Jagmeet Singh or Justin Trudeau.
00:08:55.520 But generally, consistency in politics is not valued by most people.
00:08:59.500 Most people say they will, but they don't.
00:09:01.240 They'll vote for self-contradictory things all the time.
00:09:03.560 But normally, the politicians have a way of squaring it in their brain because they have
00:09:08.140 to justify it to themselves why what they're doing is consistent in their own worldview.
00:09:14.560 How do you think – I want you to perform a dark thought experiment here.
00:09:18.640 I want you to get inside Jagmeet Singh's brain, and we're going to pretend this is some kind
00:09:23.560 of seance, and you're the medium speaking for Jagmeet Singh.
00:09:28.420 How do you think he explains this?
00:09:30.880 If you're speaking for Jagmeet right now, how does he explain any consistency between
00:09:37.860 this is a bad government that should not be in government anymore, and I'm going to keep
00:09:41.980 this government in power?
00:09:43.220 Are you talking how he tries to explain it to himself?
00:09:44.860 Yeah, to himself.
00:09:45.340 Yeah, because to others, he doesn't even try.
00:09:47.440 He just blasts it.
00:09:48.500 But to himself, how does he channel that?
00:09:50.480 I think with a lot of these ideologues, they really think – they've convinced themselves
00:09:54.760 there's a bit of narcissism.
00:09:56.420 They're on the right side of history.
00:09:58.240 He's there to make Canada a better place, and it is so important that he maintains that
00:10:04.420 role that he can sometimes set aside opportunities to do things like hold the prime minister to
00:10:10.920 account or take the prime minister out of power.
00:10:12.840 And a little bit of hypocrisy is justified in the course of the bigger picture, which
00:10:19.680 is, of course, him being that great conscience in the House of Commons.
00:10:23.340 He's convinced himself of that, I think.
00:10:26.080 Maybe that's how he sleeps at night.
00:10:27.680 Either that or he knows that he's full of something, and he just accepts it.
00:10:31.480 Because, I mean, you know, to get one of those notifications on X where they correct you,
00:10:36.200 I mean, that's called BS.
00:10:37.340 And it's not – a person can't just put a community note in.
00:10:40.800 Well, you can.
00:10:41.380 Actually, some people are qualified.
00:10:42.300 I have that.
00:10:42.860 I could put one in.
00:10:43.920 But then it has to be actually given a whole bunch of readings and thumbs up from other
00:10:48.720 people who are qualified to do that before it actually becomes entrenched.
00:10:52.280 That got entrenched.
00:10:52.900 That's pretty rare, actually.
00:10:54.840 A lot of people saw right through the BS.
00:10:56.880 I think Canadians see through the BS.
00:10:58.380 You see that in the numbers.
00:10:59.200 The NDP just sits where it does.
00:11:02.020 Either Singh doesn't care, or he has deluded himself just to think that he's just so darn
00:11:06.740 important that it doesn't matter.
00:11:08.340 I've got a different theory.
00:11:09.220 I don't think that he thinks Trudeau is doing a bad job.
00:11:14.180 I think he's just saying what the polls are showing Canadians think, because that's always
00:11:18.000 smart politics.
00:11:18.740 Reflect what the people think.
00:11:20.520 And Canadians pretty overwhelmingly right now are very unhappy with this government and
00:11:24.940 the cost of living and all of these kinds of things.
00:11:27.580 I don't think he – I try to be charitable and take people at face value.
00:11:32.440 I don't think he thinks that Trudeau is doing a bad job.
00:11:34.680 I think he thinks that from his kind of fairly far-left democratic socialist perspective,
00:11:41.700 Trudeau could do a better job.
00:11:43.140 He could be further left still.
00:11:46.260 But that's part of the problem the NDP have faced since Trudeau became the leader of the
00:11:49.480 Liberal Party is – he has moved so far away from the mythical center of Canadian politics,
00:11:56.940 crowding out the NDP on the left, that they're trying to justify their existence.
00:12:01.780 What is their raison d'etre?
00:12:03.580 And he does think Trudeau is doing well.
00:12:06.700 But this is political cover because Canadians – I think Jake Mead Singh likes Trudeau more
00:12:13.260 than most Canadians do at this point, oddly enough.
00:12:16.540 And he knows he can get – you can continue to get things out of Trudeau.
00:12:20.320 But I think this is cover.
00:12:21.280 I don't think – I don't take him at face value here when he says he thinks Trudeau is
00:12:27.440 not doing a good job.
00:12:28.260 I think he just thinks Trudeau could be doing more of what we want.
00:12:31.980 Well, I think you're probably right about that.
00:12:37.580 The thing is there's an election coming in a little over a year.
00:12:42.180 So unless Mr. Singh wants to leave people with the impression that, look, you vote for me,
00:12:50.140 you're actually voting for the Liberals, might as well just vote for the Liberals and have
00:12:55.320 done with it and leave the NDP with nothing.
00:12:58.480 He has to try and make some difference between himself and Mr. Trudeau.
00:13:05.200 So I would anticipate that you will see more of this, now that the pension issue is safely
00:13:12.160 settled, that you will see more of this as the weeks and months go by as he tries to redefine
00:13:19.000 a clear distinction between the NDP and the Liberals.
00:13:22.720 I have absolutely no idea how he is going to do that.
00:13:26.160 But if you have been working like that for this long, then you're jointly and severally
00:13:33.200 liable to the voters along with Mr. Trudeau.
00:13:36.020 But it would only be natural that he would try.
00:13:39.120 Corey, you're really not going to like me today because I'm typecasting you as the villain.
00:13:43.640 You're the Singh whisperer here.
00:13:46.060 Oh.
00:13:47.320 It's a different form of a villain for me, so that's fine.
00:13:49.500 Yeah, this is the role I've assigned you today.
00:13:54.460 What do you think it would take for Singh and the NDP to pull the plug on their coalition
00:14:01.960 confidence and supply agreement with the Liberals?
00:14:05.560 They've had clear evidence of foreign interference and covering up foreign interference, which is
00:14:11.600 possibly worse than the interference itself.
00:14:14.000 They've had corruption scandal after corruption scandal.
00:14:16.860 We don't even remember SNC-Lavalin anymore.
00:14:19.460 Remember that?
00:14:20.260 Stuff that would bring down any government in Canadian history before this and complete this
00:14:23.900 race.
00:14:26.280 But there's got to be a line.
00:14:28.020 I mean, maybe it would require Trudeau to, I mean, I was going to say invoke martial law.
00:14:33.780 No, he already did that.
00:14:36.720 What would it take?
00:14:37.720 There's got to be a line somewhere that's however extreme.
00:14:40.420 And I mean, what is that line?
00:14:41.360 The NDP support level has been static.
00:14:43.180 It's not really dropping much either.
00:14:44.620 It's just sitting there.
00:14:45.580 It's dropping a bit.
00:14:46.240 But that's his core.
00:14:47.320 That's all he's got left is the core.
00:14:49.060 And who's the core?
00:14:50.360 The real hardcore are the unions still.
00:14:52.680 I mean, even some of the woke policies are starting to trouble some of the labor unions,
00:14:56.220 but the civil service unions and some of the others, that's still their core.
00:14:59.600 If Trudeau were to have it out with the unions, a big all-out brawl, then Singh would have
00:15:06.940 to take a definitive side.
00:15:08.220 If something really big came on, if Trudeau suddenly, again, hit his head in the shower
00:15:13.040 and thought, you know what?
00:15:13.780 I'm ready to start laying off part of that civil service.
00:15:16.240 I'm going to stand down the unions, which isn't going to happen.
00:15:18.820 But that would be a line that Trudeau couldn't cross with Singh.
00:15:21.900 I mean, just to kind of get ahead, but we're talking, you know, mentioned a rail strike
00:15:24.940 that's coming up.
00:15:25.540 And this could be very economically crippling if it lasts a little while.
00:15:28.880 Yet the federal government has remained hidden and dodging on the possibility of imposing
00:15:33.600 binding arbitration.
00:15:34.640 Why are they so afraid to even imply that they might do it?
00:15:37.720 That goes directly to the government's arrangement with Singh.
00:15:40.600 They do not want to have a fight with the unions, not a big one.
00:15:44.560 And that would perhaps be the final line, because Singh could lose that tiny little bit
00:15:48.020 that's still holding him there.
00:15:50.020 You know, I don't know, Corey.
00:15:51.980 I'm not sure there's anything that can make him break the link.
00:15:55.700 If he could manage to absorb the blackface, Mr. Singh particularly,
00:16:00.660 It's hard to say what possibly could.
00:16:03.440 If he could sort of get past that, then I think Mr. Trudeau could do whatever he likes.
00:16:09.400 I've got to, I'm just so much more cynical about this than you two.
00:16:12.180 You two, I think, are just giving these guys too much credit that it has anything to do
00:16:15.980 with policy.
00:16:16.820 Policy is to cover for these things.
00:16:19.720 But there's actually a simple formula.
00:16:23.240 It's three plus minus one.
00:16:26.680 And what that means is, in a minority government, the only thing that triggers an election
00:16:32.220 is that either the government by itself, the governing party by itself, is high in the polls
00:16:37.260 and can benefit from an election to get a majority.
00:16:38.980 Like the last election we held, when Trudeau pulled the plug on his own government against Aaron O'Toole,
00:16:45.580 he called his own election, brought his own minority government down.
00:16:50.080 The other way, or you might engineer your own defeat.
00:16:54.320 Harper arguably did that on his second minority government election, some would say.
00:16:59.280 The other way is that all of the other opposition parties, at least comprising a majority of the House,
00:17:07.440 need to all be up in the polls and poised to benefit.
00:17:10.940 This is what happened when Paul Martin's minority government was brought down.
00:17:14.040 The Conservatives were up in the polls, the Bloc was up in the polls,
00:17:17.740 and the NDP with Jack Leighton was up in the polls.
00:17:20.680 All three of them stood to benefit, and the government was down.
00:17:24.460 All three of their political interests aligned to an election.
00:17:29.280 If any one of the major opposition parties that would comprise a majority of the House outside the government
00:17:34.860 is not poised to make gains or at least break even, at least, then there's no election.
00:17:42.100 It's simple math.
00:17:43.380 It's a formula, and ideology has only a marginal amount to do with it,
00:17:49.700 and is generally more of the causus belli for war rather than the underlying cause of it.
00:17:55.980 That's my cynical take.
00:17:57.420 You are a cynic.
00:18:01.980 Yep.
00:18:03.000 All right.
00:18:04.260 Well, we're going to move on here.
00:18:07.480 All this is, you know, I just love nutty professors.
00:18:10.800 I love nutty professors.
00:18:12.480 They just remind us how disconnected from Earth some people can be without getting on a rocket.
00:18:19.340 But so we've got this professor, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, is it Lisa or Lisa?
00:18:28.440 L-I-S-E-I.
00:18:29.780 Lisa?
00:18:30.180 I'd say Lisa.
00:18:31.080 I'm going to say Lisa.
00:18:31.980 Lisa Gutell.
00:18:33.540 She is a professor of gender and women's studies at the University of Alberta.
00:18:39.860 That almost tells you all you need to know right there.
00:18:42.120 Fake departments with fake jobs and fake academia.
00:18:46.220 I don't think about the salaries, though.
00:18:48.080 No.
00:18:48.700 Very real cost to the taxpayer and effects on the minds of people,
00:18:54.320 the professional minds of people who are there to learn something ostensibly useful.
00:18:57.640 Well, Daniel Smith put out a tweet here saying, you know, I had a great weekend so far.
00:19:06.000 Kicked off Westlock Parade with MLA, Glenn Van Dyke, and then I headed to Drayton Valley.
00:19:14.760 I mean, just like a run-of-the-mill thing, probably put together by a staffer controlling the premier's Twitter accounts.
00:19:20.880 Just doing the summer barbecue circuit kind of thing.
00:19:24.740 So she mentioned she went to two places, Westlock and Drayton Valley.
00:19:30.500 Professor Lisa Gutell tweeted to that, Premier Smith updates on her tour of White, Alberta.
00:19:39.860 And for, I should just note, White is in lower caps here.
00:19:45.360 I bet you she follows the Canadian press style guide and puts other races in all caps, except for W for White.
00:19:52.880 Notably, that is not a part of the Western Standard style guide.
00:19:57.220 We hate everyone here.
00:19:58.540 No one gets capitalized here.
00:19:59.900 We're indiscriminate in our low-being.
00:20:01.080 We hate everyone.
00:20:02.840 I hate both of you for reasons I don't even know.
00:20:06.240 That's a separate show.
00:20:07.220 Yes, yeah.
00:20:08.460 That's okay.
00:20:08.900 We reciprocate among ourselves.
00:20:10.360 Yeah.
00:20:10.640 Anyway.
00:20:11.000 Yeah.
00:20:11.140 We discriminate against everyone here.
00:20:13.920 So anyway, just quite something for someone on the public teat to say.
00:20:23.120 The kind of thing that, just imagine for a moment, this had been a conservative academic.
00:20:27.580 This was Tom Flanagan, who actually said something controversial once.
00:20:32.140 Not nearly, I think, as offensive as that.
00:20:34.760 And it was national news.
00:20:36.340 And he was drummed out of political campaigns.
00:20:38.500 He was, he may have been censured to some kind in academia.
00:20:43.740 Imagine it was Barry Cooper, another conservative academic.
00:20:48.720 Both of which write for us.
00:20:49.940 Barry Cooper quite regularly.
00:20:52.920 This would be national news.
00:20:54.840 You know, racist professor in Alberta says blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:20:59.200 As far as I can tell, the Western Senate is the only publication in Canada or media of any kind that has even mentioned that this has happened.
00:21:09.420 Nigel, I know our own reporter, Alberta legislative reporter, Jonathan Bradley, asked Daniel Smith about this today.
00:21:15.480 She had, I think she was fairly less aggressive than one would expect in her response.
00:21:20.760 Well, that, of course, is her style.
00:21:25.520 Premier Smith watched her many, many times, faced hostile questioning.
00:21:30.920 And she always gives a soft answer, turns away Roth.
00:21:35.480 But this was not hostile questioning.
00:21:36.760 This was a fairly friendly question about someone saying something very nasty about her, implying that she's a racist.
00:21:42.460 But she had the opportunity to actually give this woman a swat.
00:21:46.000 And she didn't take it.
00:21:46.780 And she just said, well, you know, I don't do gender identity politics.
00:21:51.240 And those who do, leave it to them.
00:21:55.040 In fact, just as a matter of fact, let the record show that although Premier Smith was in those two very much cowboy country, oil rig, rig country whistle stops there during the weekend,
00:22:11.800 where you would expect to see people in cowboy hats, mostly of the white complexion,
00:22:20.060 if you go through her Twitter feed, you will see picture after picture after picture after picture of the Premier interacting with ethnic communities all through Alberta.
00:22:31.940 I mean, if there is not one, there are dozens.
00:22:36.380 So we published some, as a matter of fact, in the article we did on this.
00:22:42.600 But they were just three out of a much larger number.
00:22:46.040 So in as much as the attack on her by Professor Gautel was incorrect, clearly she doesn't just do white Alberta.
00:23:00.360 The other question that I keep coming back to is what possesses a person in a senior, well-paid university position whose works are favorably mentioned even in the Supreme Court of Canada
00:23:17.420 because she happens to fit that particular political philosophy that is invested in the Supreme Court at the moment.
00:23:25.500 Somebody of great power and influence starts to call people names like kids in a schoolyard.
00:23:34.240 What exactly are we paying for with people who do that kind of thing?
00:23:40.500 You would expect, frankly, more maturity, even if you didn't expect more kindness and consideration.
00:23:50.200 Corey, one of the things that, building on what Nigel said here, I think, you know, nowhere more than academia do you see unserious people in serious positions of power and influence.
00:24:03.540 They are shaping the minds of young adult students who are going to university, which gives you a privileged position in society.
00:24:16.120 So these are people who are going to go out and ostensibly, some of them will do something with their degrees.
00:24:20.740 If they're taking gender and women's studies classes, they're probably only going to become gender and women's studies professors.
00:24:26.980 That's generally about as far as that kind of profession goes.
00:24:29.820 And also be civil servants, unfortunately.
00:24:31.580 Yes, yes, you can do DEI studies in government.
00:24:35.880 And until recently in most corporations, that seems to be coming to a crashing end, thankfully.
00:24:41.400 But, you know, unserious people in serious positions and who have the ear of very serious positions like Supreme Court justices.
00:24:50.580 You know, it kind of reminds me a bit of, let's throw her up on the screen.
00:24:58.100 Ray Gunn, the world-famous Italian, sorry, Italy.
00:25:03.640 You don't want to take credit for her.
00:25:05.420 Italy's not the least serious country anymore.
00:25:07.960 Now it's Australia.
00:25:08.880 Sorry, Australia.
00:25:09.680 Now you get it.
00:25:10.440 The Australian Olympic breakdance professor.
00:25:19.060 You know, she's clearly unserious.
00:25:20.960 But people who never left the academy, who stayed in the academy and never got exposed to the real world are able to live in this bubble that is just totally disconnected from reality.
00:25:32.340 I don't know.
00:25:36.800 Do you think, is there anything we can do to rid our universities of this without intruding into academic freedom or as essentially if we're going to have to treat one or the other?
00:25:45.920 Maybe if we had more private universities out there, you know, well, they're private in a sense, but they're very government dependent.
00:25:53.540 There might be some that, I guess you could say in the alternative school with classical education that Ford is working on, you know, options where they're going to say, we just aren't going to immerse your children.
00:26:04.620 Not Doug Ford.
00:26:05.260 Doug Ford is not a friend of the university.
00:26:06.960 No, we're not going to immerse your kids in that garbage.
00:26:10.300 And it's garbage.
00:26:10.940 But, you know, you pointed out the bigger and frightening issue with these unserious people in these serious positions because, yes, they're creating more.
00:26:20.040 They're spreading.
00:26:20.680 Gad said, covered it fantastically in his book, The Parasitic Mind, you know, of how our academic institutions have just become infiltrated with this trash and it spreads.
00:26:30.680 Because you're saying, what do you do with a gender studies degree?
00:26:33.440 Well, it's not just become a prof.
00:26:35.200 It's as Nigel said, you can end up in the civil service and we see how good our civil service has become.
00:26:39.280 Or the other one, which is very frightening, if you come out with a liberal arts degree that's typically useless in the workplace, you've eventually gotten tired of making happy faces and lattes and you want to get a pension but a relatively, you know, job with a lot of holidays, what do you do?
00:26:53.020 You go back to school, get a teaching certificate, and you work in the public education system.
00:26:57.560 And then they spread that garbage to even younger, you know, people.
00:27:01.520 The people in the STEM departments of the universities go on into the working world and they're out there.
00:27:07.460 But the ones educating our children, unfortunately, we're not skimming the cream to educate our children.
00:27:12.200 We're actually starting to compile the stuff from the bottom.
00:27:15.260 STEM, science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
00:27:18.520 So it's a big, this professor has exposed herself for, you know, kind of the whack job she is, but she's just one of many, many, many others.
00:27:29.380 Just some perhaps are discreet enough to keep their mouths shut.
00:27:32.080 You did make a statement about 20 seconds ago that it had to do with academic freedom.
00:27:38.480 And you say, what do we do?
00:27:39.500 How do we get out of this?
00:27:41.060 What I mean is, if we're to clean up our universities from this garbage, how do we clean up this garbage from our universities without having the government itself come in and say, you can have this professor, not that professor?
00:27:56.300 That's why I'd like to see more alternatives, not government interface.
00:27:58.760 Yeah, because I'm, you know, I try to talk about consistency.
00:28:02.460 I don't like it when the left comes in and intrudes into the freedom of different other organizations, and I'm hesitant to see it from a side with a perspective I would be more likely to agree with.
00:28:13.540 So I don't like the idea of, you know, the province saying, well, we fund the university, so, you know, we're going to cut your funding unless you get rid of this professor, this professor, this professor.
00:28:22.340 I'm not comfortable with that.
00:28:23.460 But at the same time, I'm not comfortable with my tax dollars going to that professor, that professor, that professor.
00:28:28.520 And that professor, that professor, and that professor get together and exclude other people who have a different point of view.
00:28:36.380 The University of Calgary, for example, their politics department was at one time considered to be the, you know, the nest of the young Stephen Harper.
00:28:47.160 The Calgary School.
00:28:48.440 Daniel Smith went through it.
00:28:49.840 Daniel Smith.
00:28:51.320 Pierre Pollyhoff went through it.
00:28:52.720 There are a lot of people who went through it, and when there was, there was a number of professors who were very much of the conservative disposition.
00:29:00.860 They were not the only professors that you could take classes from, but that point of view, the conservative point of view, was very well represented.
00:29:09.460 It is not that way today.
00:29:11.580 As the old guys have been retiring and doing less, they've come on with a new generation, which is much more in line with the way that this woman thinks.
00:29:25.040 So, you know, you don't want to interfere with academic freedom, but there is no academic freedom.
00:29:31.560 If you are a conservative professor, they will undermine you, undercut you, do everything they can to get rid of you, and they certainly won't replace you.
00:29:39.780 And, yeah, like the concept of tenure is important.
00:29:43.840 You know, you've gotten in, and the reason for that is so you can be controversial without fear for your job, whether it's left or right.
00:29:51.560 But that protection has gotten weakened.
00:29:54.040 Just ask Francis Whittowson.
00:29:55.800 Pastor Jordan Peterson.
00:29:56.940 Yeah, found themselves on the outs because they, you know, so there's a double standard when it comes to applying that tenure.
00:30:04.060 And I don't believe in two wrongs making a right.
00:30:05.760 So, no, I don't want to see this gender studies nut bar thrown out because of her views.
00:30:11.440 I would like to see alternatives so kids don't have to be exposed to it.
00:30:15.380 But they have a double standard because if she was exposing crazy views that are considered conservative, she'd already be on the carpet, probably out the door with it.
00:30:24.220 Well, and, of course, then there's, I think, Professor Pinder at the University of British Columbia who cheered for the assassination of Donald Trump.
00:30:31.280 I mean, it doesn't end.
00:30:33.200 I do think that if there is a solution to it, you have to remove the boards that permit this kind of thing.
00:30:39.600 And the boards control the administration and the administration announces to the board.
00:30:44.780 So if they get bad appointments and the chancellor gets the boot, the board will get around it.
00:30:52.060 But even that is complicated.
00:30:54.820 And money talks, though.
00:30:55.660 I mean, look at Gay with Harvard and she crossed the line over the whole Israel Hamas thing that's been going on and so on.
00:31:02.920 And they say, oh, it's her plagiarism and that.
00:31:04.920 But they always could have dug in and found all of that.
00:31:07.320 That's always been there.
00:31:08.440 But the reality was money talks.
00:31:11.420 Some very, very well-heeled backers of Harvard were suddenly saying, you don't get that nut out of there.
00:31:18.420 We're not giving you money anymore.
00:31:20.400 Yeah.
00:31:20.800 And suddenly she found herself out.
00:31:22.560 Well, let's zoom out a bit more from some of the perspectives that Professor Gotel has here.
00:31:32.340 I think she's the quintessential self-hating white progressive.
00:31:37.600 Mm-hmm.
00:31:38.300 I mean, so, like, obviously we're getting in a racy topic here.
00:31:41.780 But this is the topic she decided.
00:31:46.360 Let me start with you, Corey.
00:31:47.860 What is it, like, it seems almost pathological that, I mean, the old left, maybe there were people who hated their own class.
00:31:58.800 If you were born into wealth and you hated capitalism, you were a self-hating bourgeois.
00:32:03.840 Okay, sure.
00:32:05.060 But today, as, you know, neo-Marxism is more focused around identity politics, race, gender, religion, these kinds of things,
00:32:18.240 why is it that the left seems to be so motivated by self-hatred of itself, most prominently self-hating white progressives?
00:32:30.800 You've got me on a subject that I'll fully come out and admit I don't understand.
00:32:34.760 I don't know either.
00:32:35.780 I don't, I can't wrap my mind around that mindset.
00:32:39.660 They see some sort of virtue in self, you know, abasement, in saying that I'm bad.
00:32:46.680 I mean, it's a form of flagellation, like the, you know, Christian lunatics used to do in the past, whipping themselves, walking down the street.
00:32:53.280 I'm a terrible person.
00:32:54.440 I'm an awful person.
00:32:55.480 And, you know, and it makes me better to tell the world that all the time.
00:32:59.800 I guess it's a little bit of that mindset and they're drawn to that.
00:33:05.160 And, but I can't rush, rationalize it.
00:33:07.600 I don't understand it.
00:33:08.780 I'm, I mean, I know I'm not a perfect person, but I don't feel like going down the street to scream.
00:33:13.120 I know you're giving me a little too much to put myself into their shoes with.
00:33:16.860 I hit my quota with Jagmeet and I just can't, can't, can't get any more, no more mileage.
00:33:21.460 Yeah, Nigel, um, you're not going to ask me to explain it, are you?
00:33:26.780 I don't know.
00:33:27.600 I get, you're, you're pretty good at trying to empathize with lunatics, right?
00:33:32.820 I work with some of them.
00:33:33.400 Why, where did you get that idea from?
00:33:36.020 Like, like, what is driving these people to hate themselves?
00:33:40.080 Like, I, I just can't imagine anyone from any other group saying anything similar.
00:33:44.940 Like, uh, you know, like I, I can't imagine a person of color seeing a picture of Nahid Nenshi
00:33:52.000 in Southwest Edmonton, Northeast Calgary saying, oh, there's a Nenshi touring, uh, brown Alberta,
00:33:59.940 black Alberta, yellow Alberta, anything like that.
00:34:02.440 They just wouldn't say that because that's insane.
00:34:04.380 That's stupid.
00:34:04.980 That's a stupid thing to say, but uniquely white progressives hate themselves and they
00:34:13.000 seem to hate, they particularly hate anyone who doesn't hate themselves.
00:34:16.220 You know, I, I'm not going to try and offer you a fully developed sociological theory on
00:34:21.380 this, but I will relate one observation that I made when I was in high school and in my first
00:34:28.860 years at university and that is the kind of people who think like us tend to do well on
00:34:35.620 rugby teams.
00:34:37.520 Those who do not do well in sports and therefore do not reap the rewards of respect and adulation
00:34:47.640 that come with doing well in sports become resentful.
00:34:52.560 And their response is to denigrate the whole idea of sports to begin with.
00:35:00.320 In other words, if you can't play the game, well, the game isn't, can't be worth doing.
00:35:05.820 So you are a loser and you are a thoughtful person.
00:35:11.760 Perhaps you have been bullied by the sports team in some corridor encounter and you start
00:35:19.620 to develop another way of looking at the world and which undermines the credibility and the,
00:35:26.240 I guess, the right to, to rule that you find among people who are good at sports.
00:35:35.640 Those guys who are good at sports can't all go on the NFL, but they do go into money establishments.
00:35:43.320 They become very successful sometimes in making money.
00:35:46.600 They become an upper class.
00:35:48.040 They're the guys who drive the nice cars and live in the big houses and marry the most
00:35:52.800 beautiful one.
00:35:53.860 And then that too is a further cause of resentment.
00:35:57.640 So in the end, what you do is you say, it's all wrong.
00:36:00.700 It all needs to be torn down and we need to come back.
00:36:04.680 Now, somewhere between my cartoon-like extreme and the other position of extreme intellectualism,
00:36:12.400 which is also faulty, there is a point at which some people, if they can't compete,
00:36:18.580 just damn the game and turn on, turn around.
00:36:22.480 I'm going to summarize what you said.
00:36:23.900 It's that they're losers.
00:36:26.260 Yeah.
00:36:26.720 They're losers.
00:36:27.220 I did say that.
00:36:27.980 Yeah.
00:36:28.300 They've carved a niche to pay their bills and now they're spitting out.
00:36:31.700 They're losers.
00:36:32.420 Well, they are.
00:36:32.840 That's it.
00:36:33.240 You know, the people who want to tear down society are not going to rebuild anything you're
00:36:37.000 going to want to live in.
00:36:37.740 We have the people who laid the railway across the country to thank for putting it there.
00:36:43.940 We have the people who developed the oil industry for making it possible for us to actually have
00:36:49.860 a train that goes across the country and a car that will take you to the station, you
00:36:53.700 know, on an aircraft.
00:36:55.480 People who are conservatives tend to be builders and achieve things.
00:37:00.860 They're the heroes in the Ayn Rand dolls.
00:37:03.080 The people who can't do those things, because they can't do them, they feel inferior, so
00:37:10.120 they just say, well, those are things that shouldn't be done.
00:37:13.940 But it's wrong and it's not fair and the system is stacked against us.
00:37:18.600 We need an anti-dog-eat-dog law.
00:37:21.480 Oh, God.
00:37:22.280 Well, what a great way to read out of Atlas Shrugged.
00:37:24.460 Losers and looters, the same thing.
00:37:27.580 Everybody should read Atlas Shrugged.
00:37:30.000 Well, coming to you live from the John Gold Studio.
00:37:35.520 Yeah.
00:37:35.960 Not everybody knows that we call the studio the John Gold Studio.
00:37:39.180 I don't think we've ever said it on it.
00:37:40.820 No.
00:37:41.240 I found a head's a good second one to follow.
00:37:43.200 Yes.
00:37:45.160 Well, they're not particularly excellent reading.
00:37:48.040 No.
00:37:49.000 They've got a good moral.
00:37:50.140 You've got to read them.
00:37:51.620 It's like eating your vegetables.
00:37:53.340 Yeah.
00:37:53.700 They're good for you.
00:37:54.300 It's just a little hard to go on down.
00:37:55.900 Okay.
00:37:57.100 Let's switch it up a little brighter.
00:38:00.000 Um, so, you know, the academia, the academy might still be plagued by these lunatics,
00:38:06.180 but the real world business where balance sheets, dollars and cents still count for something,
00:38:12.420 something is going on.
00:38:14.120 Something's going on.
00:38:15.000 The trend of the last 10, 15 years has had every major corporation in North America and Europe adopt these DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion policies,
00:38:27.840 doing away with merit-based hiring based more on diversity, equity, inclusion-based hiring.
00:38:35.660 Um, and sometimes do great disastrous effect for these companies, some, some worse than others.
00:38:42.540 But what's happening now is they're not just paying the price by not necessarily having the best people in the jobs,
00:38:48.180 but instead of hiring based on quotas and what feels good.
00:38:50.620 Now there's an outright, genuine consumer backlash that is taking hold.
00:38:57.360 Uh, you know, most recently, uh, there's an activist in the States who's, who's kind of really pushing this, uh, do you recall his name?
00:39:07.560 Starbuck.
00:39:08.420 Isn't it a star or something?
00:39:10.820 Are you referring to the guy who blew up his Holly Davidson?
00:39:13.860 Yeah.
00:39:14.220 No.
00:39:14.420 It's, it's Starbuck.
00:39:15.540 I thought it was a star.
00:39:16.820 I think you're right.
00:39:19.240 I will.
00:39:19.820 Okay.
00:39:20.200 Yes.
00:39:20.840 Well, I mean, there's, there's, he's kind of leading the charge across the United States,
00:39:25.080 shining a light and exposing the corrupting influence of DEI, these companies and consumers.
00:39:32.740 Like most people don't buy into DEI bull crap.
00:39:36.020 It sits well with the, uh, in the Academy.
00:39:38.260 It sits well with radical activists, but most people at the end of the day,
00:39:42.800 thankfully still just believe that the best man or woman should get the job.
00:39:46.820 That's it.
00:39:47.680 Doesn't sit well with the people who can't play rubber.
00:39:50.480 Yeah.
00:39:50.800 It's not Starbuck.
00:39:51.740 It's star something and I'm blowing it.
00:39:52.960 Starsky.
00:39:54.260 Okay.
00:39:55.160 Um, and anyway, uh, he recently, uh, turned his attentions.
00:39:59.640 Uh, I don't think Indian ever did do DEI, but Indian came out proactively.
00:40:04.900 Uh, and I'm very proud.
00:40:06.320 I'm an Indian rider.
00:40:07.280 So I was very proud when Indian came out and said, we're not playing the woke game.
00:40:11.000 We're not doing it.
00:40:12.040 That's it.
00:40:13.260 Um, to a bunch of applause from a motorcycle enthusiast.
00:40:17.040 But then right around the same time, Harley, which was put under the microscope, doubled
00:40:22.100 down on DEI.
00:40:24.160 Do you know who rides Harley Davidson's?
00:40:28.320 Does it seem like a DEI crown to you?
00:40:30.840 Well, I must confess when the story broke, I was picturing and I was trying to get artificial
00:40:35.700 intelligence to generate the picture of these guys in the black leather with the patches
00:40:40.540 and tattoos and everything standing there in the lobby of the Harley Davidson head office,
00:40:46.560 which is now in Germany, by the way, uh, and saying, you know, Herr Schmidt, there's
00:40:52.000 people here to see you.
00:40:53.680 You know, that would have been the kind of situation.
00:40:56.280 I can't imagine why Harley would have ever wanted to go there, but of course you have.
00:41:00.720 It gets back to what we talked about before.
00:41:02.480 These are the graduates from these woke schools.
00:41:04.800 They're getting into the boardrooms.
00:41:06.400 They're getting into the comms areas.
00:41:07.820 They're getting into the marketing areas and they're applying their idiocy to these things.
00:41:11.820 The name was Robbie Starbuck actually is the actress.
00:41:14.920 But the interesting thing is the ones that are pushing back are what I would call lifestyle
00:41:19.980 brands.
00:41:20.520 You know, we don't go to the coffee cup thing and wear the coffee cup brand on a ball cap.
00:41:24.460 You don't, uh, wrap yourself or socialize with a group of people who own a particular
00:41:28.440 type of, well, phones even have a little bit of it, but the hardcore ones we're talking,
00:41:32.980 John Deere caps, we're talking Harley Davidson, Budweiser.
00:41:37.980 These companies have people who actually kind of wrap their identity around the brands.
00:41:43.040 And now these brands have suddenly turned around.
00:41:44.760 By the way, your identity also involves that crazy trans person, Dylan Mulvaney.
00:41:49.960 And, uh, you're expected to wear that on your outfit as well.
00:41:53.020 And it's backfiring.
00:41:54.560 They do not understand their client base.
00:41:56.740 Let's see.
00:41:57.120 We've had, uh, what it was, the John Deere, John walked it back recently, Tractor Supply.
00:42:03.580 Yeah.
00:42:04.300 Uh, Chick-fil-A never, well, they were never, they were never really a candidate for DEI policies.
00:42:10.280 Um, Bud, of course, I mean, it's just almost humorous to see Bud coming out trying to be
00:42:15.620 super masculine again.
00:42:16.760 Yeah, they're, like, they're, they're overcompensating at this point.
00:42:19.640 Like, at Sturgis, there was Bud Light stuff everywhere.
00:42:23.020 Was anybody drinking it?
00:42:24.660 Uh, I mean, they're market-cared still down.
00:42:26.040 They could slide it into their, uh, John Deere, uh, cozy there.
00:42:29.400 Yeah.
00:42:29.860 Or Harley Davidson.
00:42:30.880 Uh, but Harley Davidson, um, uh, you know, had said, no, we're sticking with DEI stuff, triggering
00:42:39.480 a massive backlash.
00:42:40.780 I mean, it was one thing when no one was really talking about it, but then all of a
00:42:44.200 sudden it caught the attention of Harley Davidson riders, and Harley Davidson has now climbed
00:42:48.760 down.
00:42:49.260 They're doing away with their DEI, they're going to fire their DEI bureaucrats, and they're
00:42:54.500 going to focus radically on making good motorcycles.
00:42:59.500 And they better make them in the USA.
00:43:01.340 The same story that had all this also said that they had been considering moving some of
00:43:06.220 their production lines to Thailand, which is, uh, not going to sit well with an American.
00:43:12.200 No, well, cause that's, that's, that's, that's an American, like, you know, Harley, Indian.
00:43:17.580 These are American brands.
00:43:20.000 These are American motorcycles and Canadians and Americans who identify with the American
00:43:25.340 style of motorcycle.
00:43:26.280 They want to build here on this side of the Atlantic.
00:43:29.300 It's a whole part of the identity thing as well.
00:43:31.700 We're supporting local.
00:43:32.640 We are, it's my neighbors.
00:43:34.300 This is my, like, you know, if you're, you know, you're riding a Suzuki or something,
00:43:38.220 well, you don't expect that to be made in America.
00:43:39.920 That's not, that's not the brand, but Harley Davidson, Indian, these are iconic American
00:43:45.280 brands and, you know, the motorcycle, you know, we, we self-style ourselves as it's the
00:43:51.280 ultimate individualist, uh, mode of transportation, even more than the muscle car.
00:43:56.040 The old easy rider guys on their own on the highway in the desert.
00:44:00.220 I mean, this is not again, a DEI type of vision.
00:44:02.880 I don't know who the hell do they think are riding these things.
00:44:06.460 I don't see that disconnect of these people who are getting to the upper echelons.
00:44:11.540 They really don't even know their own product.
00:44:13.320 They don't even know their own customer base, but the accountants are figuring it out.
00:44:17.220 Cause when the sales and Budweiser dropped a billion dollars, they couldn't ignore the
00:44:21.320 reality that, Holy cow, we stepped knee deep in some crap here.
00:44:24.660 Well, remember in the marketing plan with the dilemma of anything with Bud Light, you know,
00:44:28.700 they said like, well, we want to attract a different kind of drinker, which was a not
00:44:33.900 very subtle code for our beer drinkers.
00:44:37.940 Aren't cool.
00:44:38.520 They're a bunch of dumb rednecks and, uh, they're not cool enough.
00:44:41.760 We want, uh, we want a hipper, more young urban crowd drinking our beer.
00:44:47.540 Well, they didn't get that young urban hip crowd, but they sure lost a lot of their core
00:44:53.120 loyal customer base.
00:44:55.000 Uh, much of it, they haven't gotten back yet.
00:44:58.060 You know, there was actually the famous scene where the guy picks it up and says, you know,
00:45:04.140 I never even liked this stuff that much and take something else.
00:45:09.340 Yep.
00:45:10.100 That's a learning moment.
00:45:12.060 We got to remember your market in that, that, you know, some strong cat piss IPA from an
00:45:16.840 obscure place.
00:45:17.860 That's the ones they were marketing to.
00:45:19.500 And these guys were never going to come to Bud Light.
00:45:21.820 It was just a foolish, foolish decision.
00:45:23.060 I wasn't going to say it, Nigel, but you said it.
00:45:24.820 It was not even a good beer to begin with.
00:45:27.060 You were drinking the brand.
00:45:28.440 You liked the brand.
00:45:29.320 And when that brand said, you're not cool enough for our brand.
00:45:31.760 Well, that doesn't leave you with a lot of goodwill with your customers.
00:45:36.820 Okay.
00:45:37.440 Well, I think that's a good place to put a pin in it there, gentlemen.
00:45:40.640 Thank you.
00:45:41.700 And thank all of you for joining us today.
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