Western Standard - Stay Free Alberta canvassers face rising hostility (@Martyupnorth )

00:00:00.000 Welcome back to the

00:00:28.980 marty up north show on uh here on the western standard uh i'm your host marty up north coming

00:00:35.460 at you live from calgary almost didn't make it in this morning i thought uh i thought i was gonna

00:00:40.580 have to call john and say hey we're gonna have to do this one remotely i mean my i think the colors

00:00:45.460 come back in my knuckles right now but it was a bit of a white knuckle drive i come in from out

00:00:49.940 of town i live northwest of calgary and i take a back way in and there's like a big hill where i

00:00:56.580 got to go and the guy in front of me or gal i didn't get to see decided that they were getting

00:01:02.020 a little nervous and we're hitting the brakes on the hill going down and uh i was like no i'm not

00:01:07.780 having any of that so i had to try and swerve around and then accelerate going up the hill

00:01:11.460 it's all good got it made it but uh reminder you know snow tires make a big difference on cars i

00:01:17.300 know a lot of people like to just run those all seasons but nothing beats an actual proper snow

00:01:22.660 tire all right um and actually it's a it's it's a kind of an interesting segue into the story into

00:01:30.340 the show because um i've been i've told you guys i've been canvassing on the side of the road so

00:01:35.780 i got a spot that i go to uh every day now i think i've spent about 24 days about four hours a day

00:01:44.260 at a location that has become sort of a fixture in northwest calgary along bear spa or along uh

00:01:50.260 crow child 1a and at the bears bar intersection we got two crews of canvassers there we're not

00:01:55.860 there usually i'm not there on thursdays none of us are there today because of the weather

00:02:01.220 kind of good to take a break and it is the topic of one of what i want to talk about to today you

00:02:07.780 guys have probably seen if you follow me on x you've seen uh not just my incident you've seen

00:02:13.540 other incidents there's been a growing number of incidents of uh people who are canvassing getting

00:02:19.060 harassed. And I've had so far two videos now that have gone not viral, but that have made the rounds

00:02:27.800 on X. And in both instances, people have been coming to us disingenuine, right? They're not

00:02:34.880 interested in signing. And we know that. I mean, we play a little game when somebody steps out of

00:02:38.440 the car. Now we're what we ask ourselves, you know, friend or foe, and there's a pattern that's

00:02:42.460 emerging. And we have some people that come out and they're not interested in signing. They're

00:02:46.060 just interested in either uh some of them just come out immediately guns a blazing you know

00:02:51.240 hurling insults at us and being offensive and when that happens we were i was i'm gonna say this i

00:02:57.800 was wrongly instructed to take out a camera and start recording and and um tell them that you

00:03:04.760 know they're interfering with the activities of a canvasser and that it could lead to fines

00:03:08.720 turns out uh um that that's not the case so and and not coincidentally yesterday elections alberta

00:03:19.100 put out a press release so john you want to just flash that up for us real quick um and you don't

00:03:25.720 you know i'm not going to read the press release here but you know the the the the title says

00:03:29.980 elections alberta addresses petition canvassers conduct harassment and misinformation so that

00:03:35.100 wasn't a coincidence because apparently my my incident is not the only one there's been

00:03:40.700 like dozens even up to a hundred and so elections alberta felt it was necessary to clarify some

00:03:48.220 things which led me then to go look at the elections or the uh the alberta elections act

00:03:54.620 and go see a few things and i was a little disappointed in what i read in there um so when

00:03:59.980 when you become a canvasser you are signing a code of conduct that says you won't harass

00:04:05.460 people who come to sign or if you're going door knocking and you go and try and get a signature

00:04:10.480 and somebody says I'm not interested you just you know say thank you and walk away so we're

00:04:14.820 we the canvassers have signed a code of conduct and we're not allowed to harass while we're doing

00:04:20.040 our job but the reverse actually doesn't apply so if somebody comes and harasses us while we're

00:04:25.840 canvassing or gets really offensive to us uh the only recourse we have elections alberta is not

00:04:31.500 going to come to our defense the only people who are going to come to our defense is if we call

00:04:35.180 9-1-1 or the police and then file a report so i was misled into thinking that and what it made

00:04:40.860 me realize is that i mean i know i'm a victim not a victim a target of some persistent harassment

00:04:47.240 they want to harass me they want to capture me on video losing you know my cool my temper which

00:04:52.420 they kind of did the the other day but i'm but now i'm realizing this is a strategy they want

00:04:57.760 to harass us so that they catch us uh being uh you know losing our cool and potentially then they can

00:05:03.860 complain to elections alberta and elections alberta will investigate us so all that to say

00:05:10.200 that you know citizens on the side of the road or walking door to door collecting signatures for a

00:05:15.500 petition are literally held to a higher standard than the people we're trying to hold accountable

00:05:21.580 We're trying to hold politicians accountable. We're trying to hold senior bureaucrats and civil servants accountable. And we're actually trying to do something good for the lunatics that are running around there. But we are held at a higher standard. So it's just a message out to my fellow canvassers.

00:05:38.340 yeah hold yourself to a higher standard that's what the government wants but that's what we're

00:05:43.860 going to do as well hold yourself to a higher standard don't fall for the shenanigans collect

00:05:48.120 your signatures if somebody comes by do it in groups and if somebody comes by to harass you

00:05:52.560 just uh disconnect and uh and and uh you know de-escalate and let it go so that was a good

00:05:59.160 lesson for me uh coming in the other days all right so otherwise it's your show folks it's your

00:06:04.980 show and uh it's a call-in show that's the format we're trying to use it's a call-in show i mean i

00:06:09.320 got a couple of things written down here that i that i'll happily talk about but you know ask me

00:06:15.280 a question let's have some dialogue and then um just realize something last week while i was doing

00:06:20.100 the show right i was there's moments where uh there aren't calls coming in but i realized that

00:06:24.620 you guys also can if you're more comfortable just fire up a question on the side there

00:06:29.220 and john the producer will pick out the odd one and put them on the big screen and i can read them

00:06:34.140 out and and we can have um the dialogue that way but like i said last week don't be afraid folks

00:06:40.540 the number's on the bottom i don't think anybody pays long distance anymore call in and no need to

00:06:45.740 do like diane did two weeks ago build up the courage to to call marty i'm just a guy and i

00:06:51.180 just want to chat about things um and i'll tell you some of the things that are on my list today

00:06:56.380 right um uh beyond the canvassing uh oh by the way and the canvassing is going well i i should

00:07:02.860 mention that the canvassing for me in particular is going extremely well i set myself a target of

00:07:07.900 getting a thousand signatures i'm well over the halfway mark i still got 55 days to do it and now

00:07:13.420 we're entering a new phase of canvassing which is uh we're because at first we were doing the easy

00:07:18.940 stuff at first we're calling the people who had already pledged to um to sign we call them and

00:07:27.020 now we're going door to door which is a new phase and the door to door is actually turning out to

00:07:31.660 be really successful some small groups that are reporting back or going around door to door

00:07:36.540 and uh getting like 40 50 60 success rate on doors that open of course right because sometimes

00:07:43.580 people aren't there um but but and and i also want to mention the urgency of the camping but before i

00:07:50.060 go there we do have a call and before i take this call reminder folks name where you're calling from

00:07:55.740 and i'll i'll ask you sometimes to stay on the line and sometimes i'll just ask you to after you

00:08:00.140 do your question to you know please hang up so that other people can call in because we don't

00:08:04.540 have a switchboard so all right go ahead on the line name and where are you calling from

00:08:10.380 uh good afternoon my name is uh ian coast i'm calling from uh in between castor and alliance

00:08:17.420 alberta cool um um i really appreciate the work you're doing um it's it's really important um

00:08:27.340 Um, uh, and, uh, man, it must be so, so challenging to keep your cool with some of these actors

00:08:39.620 that you're encountering, um, encountering rather.

00:08:44.040 um my question is uh um uh if you could please uh talk about um the organization uh of the

00:08:57.560 people who are harassing you um and uh uh if you've sort of put any peaceful pieces of that

00:09:07.620 puzzle okay together got it okay cool thank you very much for your time yeah yeah thank you

00:09:12.340 um yeah so uh yes first of all it is uh yeah it is challenging to keep your cool when somebody

00:09:19.480 is is you know harassing you and playing loud music or doing things right we play we so and

00:09:27.400 and i have a group and so uh last the the incident the other day i lose my cool okay i'll admit it

00:09:34.960 i'm not the i idol at 70 that's what i tell i idol at 70 i can go to 100 pretty darn quick so my and

00:09:40.960 wife's always been critical of me of that so and i said okay karen you handle some of these calls

00:09:45.680 right so she and so is so i'm laughing because it was funny to watch her lose her cool so it's

00:09:51.680 really easily said but it's a whole other thing to keep your cool um you know is there an organization

00:09:59.600 that's doing this on purpose i i think so i mean look there's a like there's a there's organizations

00:10:06.080 that launch a whole bunch of recall petitions against MLAs, right?

00:10:11.340 Don't quote me on the exact number.

00:10:12.760 I think it was 24 or 25 recall petitions were launched near the end of last year.

00:10:17.320 They've all been sort of meeting their deadlines,

00:10:20.160 and none of them have been successful.

00:10:22.080 And we know a lot of that was done by the unions and the NDP.

00:10:25.840 And then you can go to Elections Alberta

00:10:27.320 and see who's registered as third-party advertisers and things like that.

00:10:31.100 So there is, I think on the other side,

00:10:33.220 there's a pretty concerted effort organization to try and disrupt what we're trying to do

00:10:39.460 um now that said uh you can see in one of the in the video you could go back and watch the video

00:10:45.460 but near the end of the video what really caught my attention on the incident i had a couple of

00:10:49.940 days ago is that when the lady turned around and drove past us and was seemed to be leaving she

00:10:55.620 didn't she stopped and she engaged with a vehicle that was parked on the side of the road so i

00:11:00.980 walked up to that vehicle because i was like still filming and i and the gentleman held the camera in

00:11:07.860 my face and it was weird because the first question he said to me or asked me is are you armed so i

00:11:13.060 found that unusual i said no i'm not armed i'm just you know filming this lady who near who tried

00:11:18.180 to assault me with the vehicle and then he said well that's not how i you know there was a dialogue

00:11:22.900 and all i'll say about that dialogue is that um it it looked like they were setting a narrative

00:11:28.660 and they were filming but i disrupted their narrative because i stayed calm and i was asking

00:11:33.540 questions the only the biggest regret i have about that incident is that to me when i hear the sound

00:11:38.820 there was a dispatch radio in that car so um yeah anyways it's i don't know who i have a suspicion

00:11:46.580 that it's the ndp and perhaps federal organizations but somebody's definitely trying to disrupt us

00:11:52.020 excellent um um another uh uh observation i've had and um i'd like to hear what your experience

00:12:03.820 has been um um a lot of young people i talk to um like who are you know like early 20s or

00:12:13.880 even like in their late

00:12:16.140 teenagers

00:12:17.400 are

00:12:19.680 really pro

00:12:22.340 separatist

00:12:23.260 and

00:12:24.020 in other parts of Canada

00:12:27.980 are really kind of questioning this

00:12:30.340 political

00:12:32.280 system we have and

00:12:33.640 questioning all the flaws in it

00:12:36.400 and

00:12:36.980 seem to have a lot more

00:12:40.220 energy to

00:12:41.980 kind of

00:12:43.880 engage in protest um what's your been correction what is your experience been with young people

00:12:55.720 and are you seeing um any trends there okay uh excellent question it was ian right i'll ask you

00:13:03.400 to hang up i'll answer that so we can get other calls on the line but um my you know i i've said

00:13:09.080 this several times there is no unique demographic of who signs so we've had across the spectrum of

00:13:15.240 who signs there is a but there is a evolving very unique demographic of who doesn't want to sign

00:13:20.840 and the people who are generally opposed and and and very um uh vocal about it are very senior

00:13:28.360 people what i call the boomers who have something who who who are hanging on to a very nostalgic

00:13:34.120 canada and are worried about their pension and are worried about whatever the wealth they've

00:13:39.240 accumulated on the other hand the youth are an interesting group they are very disenfranchised

00:13:46.400 a lot of youth that we come across are disenfranchised because their lives is

00:13:50.400 different they don't if you're a 24 year old kid today your prospects when you look next 10 years

00:13:56.680 it's dismal compared to a when i was 24 years old in the 19 early 90s i mean god i like i was you

00:14:03.760 know future's so bright i gotta wear shades like that my my prospects i never worried about my

00:14:09.120 future but the kids today worry about their future so they so you're absolutely correct they are

00:14:13.900 on board with the separatist pro uh movement the only problem we have is they are extremely um

00:14:23.020 they're the digital generation and so coming out and signing in person for them is some is a is a

00:14:29.880 difficult thing we we i haven't figured out how to we haven't figured out how to reach out to them

00:14:35.380 because uh i guarantee you if we could allow uh the petition to occur online via signatures the

00:14:41.460 kids would be all i call them the kids the the the young generations would be all over it so

00:14:45.800 uh go ahead uh caller what's what's on your mind

00:14:49.860 hey it's jesse in gp how's it going jesse good thanks uh hey are you warm by the way

00:15:00.400 what a weird question that was that freaked me out that question really freaked me out like

00:15:07.620 that that's the one where my uh tingly senses went up right like why is this guy asking me that but

00:15:14.040 anyway sorry yeah and and rightfully so because that's you know that is a very

00:15:19.980 off-the-wall question right so it's obviously predicated I think but what I

00:15:25.800 wanted to call that was in regards to organization on that side we also need to

00:15:29.820 be organized on our side so there's a lot of people I had a signing event pop

00:15:34.920 up signing that yesterday on the Husky Road you probably know the Husky Road

00:15:37.500 so the GP and I'm capturing a lot of the truckers or gas workers crews

00:15:43.020 construction you know all the camp folks and stuff because and this is the problem they're

00:15:47.420 out there working and they can't get in and this goes along with what you just said in regards to

00:15:52.040 an internet signing drive would be nice um so and that just i was hoping that we could try and like

00:15:58.940 this is a plea to everyone who's a canvasser such as myself is to put these pop-ups on the oil and

00:16:05.660 gas road because they will sign they're stopping and signing and the first thing i hear and it's

00:16:10.260 all walks of life, Native, Indigenous people, obviously Black people, East Asians, Asians,

00:16:17.860 like everybody, right? But they're too busy working that they can't get in and sign, right?

00:16:24.660 So Camister, please hop up on the side of that oil and gas road because you guys are going to

00:16:29.460 sign. This is your 100% signing people and the people that are driving by have already signed.

00:16:35.300 Awesome. Thanks, Jess. Yeah, I got a couple of goosebumps while you were saying that.

00:16:38.580 and and i and so that that's another message we get right we're on the side of the road people

00:16:43.220 stop they see us one day they go by and don't lose like set up the consistency set up at the same

00:16:49.540 spot day after day they they see us they go by they don't sign they see us they go by they don't

00:16:54.260 sign then finally on the third day they realize ahead of time they're going to be there they

00:16:57.620 look for us to come and sign and we overwhelmingly hear that i'm so busy i'm so busy and that's what

00:17:02.660 i tell them that's why we have to come to you the the the the the albertans that are going to sign

00:17:07.380 a petition are the ones working and paying taxes and the ones that are not going to sign it are

00:17:11.620 the ones that are not working collecting you know the givers versus the the makers versus the takers

00:17:16.500 so i i totally agree make it as convenient as possible to uh to to go to the folks now and

00:17:22.820 i i didn't want to talk too much about the petition but i'll i'll say one last thing

00:17:26.900 you guys probably saw mitch sylvester the proponent of the petition come out last week

00:17:31.700 and talk about the fact that there are, I think, six or seven First Nations now up in northern Alberta

00:17:39.560 that have filed an injunction.

00:17:42.220 So an injunction simply means they're trying to stop the process.

00:17:45.780 And they're not trying to stop the referendum.

00:17:48.260 They're trying to stop the collection of signatures, which to me is one of the most basic, basic, basic tenets of democracy.

00:17:55.060 So they're trying to stop that.

00:17:56.380 and uh the judge is going to hear their uh motion on this injunction like on april

00:18:03.460 five six seventh kind of thing and my fear i i think it's completely ridiculous that a judge

00:18:08.920 would accept this injunction we're just citizens exercising our democratic right but but you know

00:18:14.640 how judges have been in this country of late they're appointed by liberals and they've become

00:18:19.860 kind of puppets of the state and they're scared to adjudicate properly that's my opinion so i think

00:18:25.960 the judge might just hear this and say yeah well i'll err on the side of caution and i will

00:18:30.220 you know uh whole whatever freeze the signature collection i don't think that should matter i

00:18:36.120 mean if some guy tells me you're not allowed to collect signatures what's he going to do come and

00:18:39.360 stop all thousands of canvassers from collecting signatures i mean i don't see the mechanism

00:18:43.980 or or invalidate the signatures we've collected so just because of that uh the organizers are

00:18:50.280 trying to put a little bit you know keep the pedal to the metal and keep collecting signatures get

00:18:54.580 so that hopefully we're well past the threshold in case they cancel the petition and the injunction

00:19:01.900 goes through. But anyways, let's try and move on to another topic. But go ahead, on the line,

00:19:06.340 name, where are you calling from? It's Donald. Hi, Donald. How are you?

00:19:14.460 I'm good, Martin. Donald here from Vancouver, News Now Canada, independent media here.

00:19:18.720 So, I've been seeing all these videos online where these so-called left-wing clowns basically 0.91

00:19:25.840 interfere in elections. 0.51

00:19:28.620 Where are the police to deal with these people interfering with elections?

00:19:33.360 And plus, here in BC, they do not like Daniel Smith at all.

00:19:37.460 They call her fascist.

00:19:38.660 They call her Nazi. 0.93

00:19:39.780 They call her everything here.

00:19:41.800 And I've been in British Columbia for a month now.

00:19:44.680 And it's just, it's a socialist city here.

00:19:48.720 yeah well like i said at the start of the show i mean the cops don't come and the cops only come

00:19:56.180 if somebody calls them they come if a protest gets big enough and the politicians ask them to

00:20:02.620 stand in between two sides you know like when there's a big protest in vancouver or where

00:20:06.260 there's a big one somewhere you know then you'll see the police come out and and try and keep the

00:20:11.420 groups apart but in the case of of uh just somebody on the side of the road or going door

00:20:15.900 door collecting signatures there's no there's no protection it you're you're it is what it is

00:20:22.940 and and and i'll i'll say this and i think you can validate it too i i see a lot of double standard

00:20:29.600 in police forces these days especially in vancouver actually interesting that you're calling

00:20:34.120 from there i mean we watch some of your guys's protests and we do see uh you know uh independent

00:20:38.980 media interviewing the police and and the police are giving warnings that that if you if you were

00:20:44.160 to try and take down the palestinian flag you're gonna get hit with uh mischief but on the other

00:20:50.520 hand the fact that somebody's flying a palestinian flag somewhere where they shouldn't to me that's

00:20:55.760 mischief but they don't get hit with mischief so yeah i hope that answers the question don

00:20:59.420 thanks you got a follow-up or is that oh i do have a follow-up here on this weekend they're

00:21:05.560 having a palestine protest this weekend i don't know what it's about but every time independent

00:21:10.400 and we're going to try to cover this,

00:21:11.740 Vancouver police basically threaten to arrest us,

00:21:14.720 threaten to tell us to leave and all that stuff.

00:21:18.000 We're antagonizing.

00:21:19.360 And the Vancouver police don't understand

00:21:21.040 about Fleming versus Ontario,

00:21:23.200 where you're allowed to basically counter-protest,

00:21:25.960 but some of these NDP police departments

00:21:30.140 just don't give a care about people's rights at all.

00:21:34.460 Like, here we're having, like,

00:21:37.360 kira armstrong like dallas grody being attacked by these antifa people like over the weekend i

00:21:44.160 went to her lunch-a-thon or something in um here in vancouver you have first nations people telling

00:21:51.120 us to get off our land to get out of here you're a settler you're an immigrant just basically and 0.98

00:21:56.160 plus nothing fun of me for who i am as my disability tell me i have a white piece of 0.99

00:22:01.360 trash and a whole bunch of news all right yeah yeah okay well um yeah thanks for that don um 0.97

00:22:08.880 get off the line please and then but uh yeah there's a double standard there's and and then

00:22:14.240 well i mean i i didn't even have it on my list of things to talk about today but now you remind me

00:22:19.760 of you know laws that make it even more difficult for us to express our opinions as independent

00:22:25.920 media right i actually i think we're going to talk about this let's talk about this for the

00:22:29.440 second half of the show here uh c9 right so c9 is well yesterday went through uh for our second

00:22:37.280 reading i had i'm i haven't even had a chance to check maybe somebody can make a comment on it i

00:22:42.480 think it actually went to third reading immediately today and it's being forced through the house of

00:22:47.200 commons and c9 is one of those bills that should scare everybody when it comes to free speech

00:22:52.320 right i'm joking about this because i'm joking but not joking about it i mean i i am producing

00:22:58.160 content and i'm sitting on the side of the road there producing content and i was talking to one

00:23:01.920 of the the other people there and i said yeah you know between the three of us one of us will be

00:23:06.800 arrested for uh under c9 in the next six months like i'm almost certain of that because um that's

00:23:16.400 what they're trying to do it's it's another step in eroding our democratic right right they i mean

00:23:21.360 look at what we just talked about they don't want me canvassing that's almost like trying to stop

00:23:25.840 me from voting which by the way some people do think that voting is a is a useless exercise that

00:23:31.280 we do it you know it's mostly theatrics but you start to believe it after a while because you

00:23:36.960 you start to see what they're doing to us and c9 if it passes is an extremely scary piece of 1.00

00:23:43.200 legislature it's the anti-hate bill and a lot of people will are have rightfully talked about the

00:23:52.080 fact that there's no that there is such a thing as hate but it's not a crime i hate olives you

00:23:57.840 love them that's fine it's just an emotion it's just the word but they're trying to turn hate

00:24:02.800 into something else and and that totally worries me and and i'll just before i go to the question

00:24:08.160 i'll say this about that bill the other thing that worries me about that bill is that uh mark carney

00:24:14.560 is trying to pass something crazy unpopular like that and and damaging and he's trying to do it

00:24:20.880 with a minority government right and we'll come back after the call we'll talk about how he's

00:24:24.720 rebuilding his minority he's getting back to a minority uh to a majority right he's getting close

00:24:30.480 so if carney's willing to pass a bill like c9 with a barely a majority what do you think he would do

00:24:36.400 if he had a full majority right how crazy would he be so let's come back to that one on uh on

00:24:41.440 the majority but uh go ahead uh call her on the line where are you calling from

00:24:44.640 oh hi my name is gordon i'm calling from edmonton hi gordon uh yeah no i'm just calling just uh

00:24:53.740 kind of state you know everything that's happening out there with the harassment and

00:24:57.480 uh all the bad press all the easterners calling us all kinds of different names

00:25:02.680 you know it's it's not unexpected i i totally expected this down the road that this would

00:25:09.340 happened. They were going to go after the, you know, the big people in the group, Jeff and

00:25:15.260 people like yourself and a lot of the people who are, all of them. So it's totally not

00:25:26.500 unexpected that this is happening. The only thing I'm still concerned about, why there

00:25:31.120 isn't a little more fight back against people like Jason Kenney, telling Albertans what

00:25:36.880 kind of a premier he was like uh uh lukaz jak who tried to rip off the uh alberta uh citizens on

00:25:45.480 when he was there why aren't we doing more of this letting know it's maybe you know they're

00:25:51.540 dirty playing i'm saying maybe we should be reminding people of the type of characters that

00:25:57.260 we're coming after the people who are coming after us now you got to let people know i appreciate

00:26:03.680 that thought you gave me a whole segment to talk about so if you don't mind like I said hang up

00:26:10.300 appreciate the thanks for the the comment Gord um Gord brings up like so many things and this will

00:26:17.860 tie into some of the things I wanted to talk about so let's finish real quick on the minority

00:26:21.460 government right so uh yesterday there was a floor or two days ago there was a floor crossing I'm not

00:26:26.700 surprised that it was an NDP uh MP I thought all along that Carney would actually go and pick off

00:26:31.920 you know the remaining three or four ndp mps that that made sense so he's rebuilding his minority

00:26:37.760 that way and then uh or his majority sorry and then i think it's uh maybe somebody can confirm

00:26:43.840 i'm pretty sure it's april 19th but uh quietly last week three by-elections were announced so

00:26:49.340 there's a by-election in terrapin quebec that's the one that was um disqualified that was an

00:26:55.140 interesting one right that's the one that uh the block won on the first count and then on the 0.97

00:27:01.240 recount the liberals won by one vote and then we found out that some of the mail-in ballots had

00:27:07.000 gone to the wrong envelope or wrong um polling station whatever and then finally that went to

00:27:12.600 court and the court said uh null and void so the results of that uh writing were null and void so

00:27:20.440 that one's being recontested so there's a by-election there and then there's two in the

00:27:24.240 toronto area one in christia freeland's old writing and i believe the other one is in uh

00:27:28.720 uh Bill Blair's old writing so so if Carney wins those three by elections and I think he'll I think

00:27:35.540 he'll get two out of three hopefully the people of Quebec woke up after the Terrebonne fiasco

00:27:39.380 he'll win two out of three plus the one he got so he's back into majority territory which is scary

00:27:45.240 for all of us but to the other point of of uh that Gord was mentioning you know who's holding

00:27:52.720 politicians and other people accountable and I'll say this right I'm I'm a I'm a private citizen

00:27:58.480 Like I don't hold office, which is the definition of private citizen.

00:28:02.160 Sure, I have a big following and I'm popular and I'm known, but so are actors, so are hockey

00:28:08.120 players, so are, you know, so if you're in the media, in sports, whatever, you are still

00:28:12.300 a private citizen.

00:28:13.980 The definition of a non-private citizen is a public servant like an elected official.

00:28:19.520 So it's very interesting that people come after guys like me and others because I don't

00:28:25.600 have access to the levers of power.

00:28:27.680 and what becomes really interesting is that even the media comes after me and that's the segue i

00:28:33.120 want to talk about that that's been interesting this week that ties in what gore just said

00:28:37.840 the media right what's the media doing the mainstream media not these guys i mean you

00:28:43.920 know western standard rebel news uh you know little guys uh uh whatever people on x they're

00:28:52.160 independent media that you pay for sure you pay for them which makes them a little bit biased

00:28:57.840 but um but we've always had you know people have a bias but that's not a conflict of interest

00:29:04.240 it's a bias there's a difference whereas a lot of the mainstream media in this country

00:29:10.800 is fully paid for by the government the cbc is an example right the cbc gets paid 1.6 billion

00:29:17.360 dollars a year to exist that's a conflict of interest in the private sector that's a conflict

00:29:23.520 of interest if you're paid by someone you're beholden to them you work for them so rosemary

00:29:29.200 barton can say whatever the heck she wants she can say i'm impartial i'm unbiased no you're not

00:29:35.520 you work for the government so and plus she's already so and you know where i'm going with this

00:29:41.280 right before i go into the testimony of of travis there uh two days ago i just want to bring it back

00:29:48.240 to one quick thing right the role of the media we live in a democracy which is a fragile thing

00:29:54.560 and there and to me the democracy that we live in there's five important pillars right there's

00:29:59.280 the voter there's you and i we vote and and and unfortunately we give everybody a vote that's a

00:30:05.280 reality we have to deal with because i mean if it was entirely up to me there's some people that i

00:30:09.600 i don't think are smart enough to vote and we shouldn't let them vote but that's the that's the

00:30:12.980 cornerstone we expect them to vote and be responsible with their vote and educate themselves

00:30:18.140 before they vote so that's the first pillar the second pillar is the government whatever

00:30:21.380 body forms the government i mean everybody in the house of commons or in the legislature is

00:30:26.540 officially the is the government but in this context i'm talking about the ruling side of

00:30:30.200 the government right so um so you got the voter you got the government you got the opposition

00:30:36.620 the government makes the rules the opposition holds the government accountable if you watch

00:30:40.460 the house of commons right now it's it's it's almost uh comical right we just talked about it

00:30:45.660 if you have a majority the opposition is irrelevant and then there used to be the

00:30:49.500 media that had an important role and the media's role was sure the media is there to report on

00:30:55.020 the fire that happened last week and the theft and the rising crime rate and other things but

00:30:59.020 the media was also had a key role which was to hold politicians accountable and we don't see

00:31:04.780 that i like so to to gord's point who's holding jason kenny accountable when he starts spewing

00:31:11.420 lies or or thomas lukasic or even nenshi i mean nenshi last week sitting on the steps of the

00:31:17.020 legislature in edmonton like you could listen to him and you can analyze him as he's going and you

00:31:22.300 can go lie lie lie lie lie i mean in real time if you're smart you can see the lies if you want to

00:31:27.740 take the time you can go you know he said that something was said in the in the legislature you

00:31:31.660 can go see what was said and you can quickly realize it was a lie so um you know i've done

00:31:37.900 four pillars the fifth pillar of of our democracy used to be um me as a professional the doctors the

00:31:44.620 engineers the accountants the scientists who would um be consulted on and relied on to help develop

00:31:53.660 policies because you know the sad part is governments pass policies nowadays without

00:31:59.020 consulting abroad group and and the experts we used to have a role in that paul in that in that

00:32:04.860 uh in that whole uh hierarchy so i i will go back to i'll finish my thoughts on that because i do

00:32:10.700 want to talk about the uh the whistleblower at the cbc but i got a comment on the screen i got

00:32:15.820 to read it says hey marty please talk about what the chiefs are trying to do in court to stall the

00:32:20.620 referendum process yeah i talked about it real quick right they're they're they're they're

00:32:25.820 they're basically trying to um to say that the um they're saying that the clarity act

00:32:36.060 is invalid and they're saying that uh danielle smith that here in alberta that the um citizens

00:32:42.140 initiative is invalid and so they're literally trying to stop people from just collecting

00:32:48.140 signatures to petition the government it that's all they have right now which is interesting

00:32:53.660 because if you read the clarity act the clarity act says that somebody trying to block the exercise

00:32:59.020 of citizens is unconstitutional i mean the word constitutional these days is getting thrown around

00:33:04.460 everybody's saying constitutional unconstitutional constant i'm kind of at the point where we we're

00:33:09.900 we're generally making a giant mockery of our whole democratic system uh you know it's a comment

00:33:14.860 somebody asked that question last week on thursday why don't we pass laws to prevent some of these

00:33:19.900 things happen and we had a good chat about that the the our governments and our courts are making

00:33:25.420 a mockery of uh of the laws um so where was i uh yeah so i so i started so you know we're talking

00:33:34.140 about the the role of the cbc or the mainstream media in holding governments accountable which

00:33:39.820 brings us to the really cool event of um geez the days are flowing through i think it was tuesday

00:33:45.740 right so tuesday travis i i forget his last name but he's he's the whistleblower guy worked for the

00:33:51.980 cbc as a producer and was trying to do his job impartially and bring in um you know he was

00:33:59.740 helping uh he's bringing in guests to have political discussions on on camera and every

00:34:06.700 time he tried to bring in a conservative or right-leaning guest it got rejected and and then

00:34:13.740 he got sort of what we call in the industry in uh in the world um uh constructive dismissal they

00:34:20.220 gave him a job that that he didn't like right businesses will even do that and it's an it's

00:34:24.860 an illegal activity you give a guy a job or a gal that they don't like and you hope they quit

00:34:29.420 you can't do that you know so um he he tolerated that and in the end uh he kind of did quit but

00:34:36.620 then he decided to become a whistleblower some people say he's just a high maintenance employee

00:34:40.940 No, I think he is a genuine whistleblower. And of course, if you're complaining against your employer and your employer happens to be the CBC, which is financed by the government, boy, the pockets are deep on that side.

00:34:51.720 And this poor guy is just being hammered. Well, he got a great opportunity this week. He got to go in a parliamentary committee.

00:35:01.460 So in parliament, so there's three places to me where you're still supposed to tell the truth.

00:35:07.120 You're supposed to tell the truth when you go in court, right?

00:35:09.380 Swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

00:35:11.760 And that's pretty good there.

00:35:12.800 Like in court, it lasts long enough.

00:35:14.620 And if you get caught lying, there's some real repercussions in court.

00:35:18.920 The other place you're supposed to tell the truth is in the House of Commons.

00:35:21.680 Well, we all know how that goes, right?

00:35:23.180 I've seen the House of Commons these days.

00:35:24.880 I don't see, I see a lot of lying going on in the House of Commons.

00:35:28.120 The third one were these parliamentary committees.

00:35:30.840 And they used to be pretty good.

00:35:32.160 You could expect to watch the parliamentary committee.

00:35:34.560 and you could expect, you know, the finance committee to interview the budget officer and

00:35:39.000 things like that. And you'd get some really good feedback and some truth. Well, that's completely

00:35:43.680 turned into a gong show. So poor Travis goes to a parliamentary committee to talk about

00:35:48.380 sort of censorship and what's going on at the CBC, you know, and the parliamentary committee

00:35:53.640 is about 90 minutes long and it's, it's, it's a multi-partisan. I mean, there's NDP, there's

00:35:59.720 block there's conservatives and whatever and the way it works nowadays is the poor the the witness

00:36:06.420 so in this instance he's brought in as a witness the witness only gets about four minutes in your

00:36:11.080 opening statement to the parliamentary committee they're not going to interrupt you so during those

00:36:16.380 first four minutes man whatever your talking points are you got to get them off across real

00:36:20.860 quick so in the first four minutes he's giving a whole bunch of examples of how rosie barton and

00:36:26.760 and david cochran and others were constantly blocking him and he's basically saying that

00:36:31.880 the cbc only accepted liberal guests and never accepted proper uh conservative guests but after

00:36:39.400 that once the committee's over once his opening speech is over and now it's question and answers

00:36:44.520 from committee members that the next the next 86 minutes are just a joke because they they're

00:36:50.920 yelling over each other and they're constantly you know point of order point of order point of order

00:36:55.160 i object point of order i object and nothing gets said so that whole but that whole exchange

00:37:01.000 was interesting the four minutes that he that he got to talk are interesting nothing really new

00:37:05.960 for most of us we know that there's a lot of censorship going on at the cbc it's not going

00:37:10.840 to kill rosie barton's job or career in fact they'll probably make her a senator in the next 1.00

00:37:15.960 couple years that ain't going to do anything for david cochran uh but it gave us some some some

00:37:21.640 ammunition and some further food for thought and then some independents will continue to dig into

00:37:26.440 what's going on at the cbc so um yeah we'll we'll leave it at that all right uh what else have i was

00:37:33.720 i going to talk about uh well i talked about actually let's finish on the chiefs so the yeah

00:37:40.680 the chiefs you know it's funny because they went to the house of or to the legislature they're

00:37:46.920 trying to block in the courts that's step one then yesterday or two days ago they went to the

00:37:51.000 legislature they're on the steps there with uh naheed nenshi they did something like a non-confidence

00:37:56.440 motion that's kind of meaningless and then they jumped on the plane and they flew to england

00:38:00.220 so now yesterday they were meeting with uh king charles iii whom i need to remind people king

00:38:07.280 charles iii came to canada last year in may did the throne speech which is hilarious in and of

00:38:13.240 itself right so we they brought out the king to remind us that we were sovereign like the whole

00:38:22.460 exercise was bizarre right so the king comes here and he reads the speech to us and he does it not

00:38:29.060 in the house of commons because only commoners are allowed in the house of commons so the king

00:38:33.360 reads the speech from the senate and the commoners are invited to the senate and before the king

00:38:39.380 opens his speech the king did king charles did a land acknowledgement in ontario where he admitted

00:38:46.300 that he was on unceded lands which is the case probably i'm not familiar totally with ontario

00:38:51.300 but i think ontario does have a lot of unceded lands but here in alberta treaties six seven and

00:38:57.280 eight specifically and there's there's there's minor geographies that are affected by other

00:39:01.460 treaties but six seven and eight are the ones that cover most of alberta under those treaties

00:39:05.920 these first nations in the 1860s ceded their lands other than the small reserves that they're living

00:39:11.420 on and they ceded them to the crown so now they went back to the crown what i mean it was all

00:39:18.460 super symbolic i don't know what king charles is going to do king charles acknowledged that uh

00:39:23.140 hey i had originally given you the land and then i took it back i don't know i'd love to have been

00:39:28.560 a fly on the wall in a discussion between six or seven chiefs uh meeting with king charles now

00:39:34.880 Well, on this morning, I saw a story.

00:39:39.300 There was somebody wrote an article and showed the gifts that the chiefs brought over there to give the King Charles.

00:39:46.820 And one of the gifts, I'm sorry, folks, but one of the gifts was a nice birch bark basket that was laser etched.

00:39:56.340 so I thought yeah nothing says uh you know first nations craftsmanship quite like laser etching

00:40:05.160 bark you know I mean a laser super modern technology that uh that that you know where

00:40:13.940 I'm going with this one and I'm not going to go there with this one so uh John we got a couple

00:40:20.120 of any good comments that you've seen as you're strolling by come on folks give me a give me a

00:40:24.360 buzz there i'm i'm uh for me it's a i'll take a second it's a challenge i gotta read the comments

00:40:29.360 and they're sitting on the side there um people quit their jobs because of the jab yeah that's

00:40:36.700 uh i'm not gonna go there today uh all right let me go see what i got on my list well let's talk

00:40:41.200 about the floor crossing right so i do i do floor crossings are interesting i'll ask you guys that

00:40:46.800 then somebody call me or give me a comment do you think there will be more floor crossings or are

00:40:51.640 they going to wait until the by-elections and what's your thoughts on floor crossings now some

00:40:57.380 people like to bring up um you know the the the fact that floor crossings have been going on a

00:41:03.740 long time i think i've been on the record in the past as as saying at um you know that well no i

00:41:11.540 don't think i've been on the record in the past i don't think floor crossings are appropriate to me

00:41:17.540 if you're going to cross the floor you should literally uh sit as a as an independent so there

00:41:25.820 should be a process there should be a step so if you're unhappy and you feel that you no longer

00:41:29.700 represent the party that not the party if you feel that you no longer represent the electors

00:41:35.080 in your writing and the party at the same time then sit as an independent until the next election

00:41:42.460 and then at the next election run for whatever party you choose to run but this this whole

00:41:47.420 concept of simply crossing the floor and going to the other side that just stinks to me and i'll say

00:41:53.500 it like people say oh well you'd be happy if it was the conservatives recruiting liberals no i

00:41:58.620 wouldn't be i wasn't happy when danielle smith crossed the floor uh you know in the early 2000s 1.00

00:42:04.780 in the mid 2000s to to from from the wild rose to join the uh the the conservatives i wasn't happy

00:42:11.660 then and supposedly she's on my side and i wouldn't be happy if a conservative did it tomorrow

00:42:16.780 so for me it's it's it's non-partisan i don't care about your political stripes i do not like

00:42:22.380 floor crossers and um so i i'd like to hear your comments on that but i i do have a chat there's a

00:42:29.100 nice comment there going up so could ottawa push through an act to take back all provincial

00:42:35.740 resources or do they have to open the constitution i'm not a constitutional expert but i would say

00:42:43.420 that would be a tough one i mean um they gave us our resources in the 1930s the resource transfer

00:42:50.940 act and uh can you imagine if if we reopen the constitution and nine of the other provinces

00:42:58.540 i i okay i here's how i'm going to answer that one if if every province wanted to give back

00:43:06.940 their resources to ottawa sure that would require an act but but you know try and imagine that right

00:43:13.580 that would require reopening the constitution so imagine all 10 provinces says yeah let's

00:43:17.900 reopen the constitution and we want to give our resources back to ottawa i don't think that would

00:43:22.380 happen now could could they gang up on one so if the other nine provinces says hey we want to take

00:43:30.860 resources away from alberta and give alberta's resources back to ottawa trudeau tried to do that

00:43:38.060 trudeau senior uh pierre with the national energy policy was basically an attempt to do that right

00:43:44.220 he was trying to take the resources back from alberta and nationalize them and it backfired

00:43:50.540 and i so i don't think i don't think that would go very far that would be uh that would be an

00:43:54.860 interesting um event to to take the resources back um any okay so let me go back here uh get a

00:44:04.300 petition the uh oh hey okay i got another one let's talk about this one real quick uh see if

00:44:11.260 we can gather it a little bit of interest another interesting news story i don't know if you can

00:44:14.940 find this one john uh saskatchewan gun law the saskatchewan amended their uh their firearm act

00:44:22.540 this week and did something really really cool and um they so as we all know we've talked about

00:44:29.500 this many times uh there's a gun grab and uh went into effect in about uh 2021 government told us

00:44:38.460 to just parker firearms just leave them locked the ones that have been prohibited and then at

00:44:43.420 some point they'll develop a buyback program they're struggling with that and because they

00:44:48.860 don't have a proper buyback program they keep uh having an amnesty so basically you keep your

00:44:54.220 firearms right now until as long as this amnesty is in place but once the amnesty if they don't

00:44:59.980 renew the amnesty anybody who owns a restricted or a prohibited firearm from this list will become

00:45:06.460 a criminal and so and that's that that deadline's looming on us right so by uh by october of this

00:45:13.340 year if the liberals do not renew the amnesty anybody owns a firearm on that list will become

00:45:21.100 a criminal while saskatchewan and alberta over time have been taking steps to sort of counter

00:45:26.300 that because both provinces see that this is wrong right suddenly making a guy like me because i might

00:45:32.540 have a prohibited firearm just turning me into a criminal makes no sense right i've i i've been a

00:45:39.180 good citizen for 35 years i followed the law and now you change one law and suddenly i'm a criminal

00:45:43.980 so you can see it on the screen there saskatchewan plans amendments to firearm uh act amid amid the

00:45:50.220 gun grab you can find one of those articles but i'll tell you what it kind of what the saskatchewan

00:45:54.620 is trying to do it's very clever they're going to let their citizens hold on to those prohibited

00:46:01.420 firearms indefinitely and what they're going to do is they're going to give the citizens like a

00:46:06.780 coupon or certificate saying you are holding on to this firearm on behalf of the province

00:46:12.700 it's very interesting i mean you know i would it hold water is it legal is it a trap so that they

00:46:18.220 can get that so that they can find out where the firearms are it could be all those things

00:46:22.700 it needs to be debated but i'm just simply i'm at the i'm fundamentally happy that some

00:46:28.620 governments are trying to explore uh options like that alberta's doing the same thing i mean alberta

00:46:33.820 passed its own firearms acts mimicking the one in saskatchewan um where here in alberta the the path

00:46:41.020 we took so far is danielle smith is trying to make it hard for the government to confiscate our guns 1.00

00:46:46.380 they'll be able to they'll declare me a criminal and they'll say um um you know you you're in

00:46:52.380 possession of these but they won't be able to come and get them easily in alberta because

00:46:57.180 uh you know she's passed rules that says you'll have to be certified to confiscate firearms you'll 0.75

00:47:02.700 have to do it no more than three at a time you'll have to go in teams you'll have to store them this

00:47:06.620 way so forth and so forth and so forth so she's going to make it extremely difficult for somebody

00:47:11.660 to confiscate the firearms but it doesn't stop ottawa from still calling me a criminal and and

00:47:18.300 pulling my firearm license so it like this is a battle this is an ugly ugly ugly battle that i

00:47:24.220 still don't understand why the liberals are making this a hill to die on i said it last week i think

00:47:28.940 it's just to appease to quebec but but then quebec had a protest uh about this last week so i don't

00:47:34.940 know why they're insisting on making this a hill to die on um it makes no sense all right uh any

00:47:43.260 find me a good comment john uh

00:47:46.220 uh i'm not sure i trust this yeah like i said caveat i'm not i'm not a hundred percent i haven't

00:47:57.020 read the saskatchewan firearm act to know specifically if it's a trap or what it says in

00:48:03.740 there um you know so so don't don't don't don't hold your breath on that one at the end of the

00:48:11.500 day i'm i'm personally hoping that the uh well well i think what will happen is the government

00:48:17.580 will extend the amnesty unless they get a majority um actually and that's an interesting thing

00:48:26.780 i i like i said i think the liberals will get their majority by hook or by crook in april when

00:48:34.060 they run these by-elections they'll be at like 172 which is like just the slimmest of margins

00:48:39.580 which allows them to continue to do crazy things if they don't get their if they don't win the

00:48:45.580 by-elections or somebody else quits or a couple of things happen then um then all bets are off

00:48:52.460 and i have i have a bet with friends i do i do think that if the by-elections are unsuccessful

00:48:58.060 that there will be shortly after that that the writ will be dropped and carney will send us to

00:49:03.740 a general election he's he can taste the the majority just around the corner he wants it

00:49:10.780 he's been sent by his handlers to fix things so he needs to do it otherwise he'll be pulled and

00:49:16.220 then somebody else will go in there um which explains all the which explains by the way

00:49:21.660 guess where carney's been right so carney just come back from uh from a trip to uh australia

00:49:27.100 and india and places like that sat in the house of commons yesterday for one day i think he's

00:49:31.500 sitting tomorrow or today and then he's off on vacation and uh where's he going on vacation he's

00:49:37.820 going two places he's going to england and he's going to rome and i don't think it's a stretch to

00:49:42.940 say he's going to england because that's where he lives i don't care what he says about you know uh

00:49:47.980 living in uh in new york or whatever he's going to england because that's where he lives and then

00:49:53.500 he's going to rome because that's where he's going to go get his uh next set of marching orders

00:49:58.140 uh cool call on the line thanks for doing this i was running out of topics right yeah

00:50:02.540 i think you guys can tell so go ahead on the line name where are you calling from

00:50:07.660 hey marty jesse and gp again nobody else was calling let's figure i'll call again go ahead

00:50:11.980 yeah yeah perfect um so just in regards to the firearms regulations that uh we discussed i think

00:50:20.620 two or three weeks ago there's a SOR last 2012-138 clearly indicates that

00:50:32.440 previous May 1st 2020 you were not required to keep a record of the

00:50:38.120 transfer of your non-restricted at the time yeah pretty good to make right so I

00:50:42.980 don't know if you looked into that but maybe that's a topic you might want to

00:50:45.340 of yours as well touchy one i know yeah yeah no um i maybe i won't do it on this platform

00:50:55.500 this is not my plan you know the i don't want to get the the western standard in trouble

00:51:01.820 come come see me come see marty because i there's a risk of giving legal advice right and so i'm not

00:51:08.700 going to give legal advice here on how i think people should proceed when it comes to their

00:51:13.180 firearms and uh and the legislature and everything else but i'll give you that advice on x where um

00:51:20.940 where i'm where i can put a different caveat and say this is my opinion as a private citizen but

00:51:27.500 but if you want to take a chance jesse if you want to give us some some advice what do you think

00:51:31.820 people should do who are getting their um those letters from the rcmp right now sort of twisting

00:51:38.780 their arms and reminding them to sign up for the compensation program what's your advice

00:51:43.360 my advice is a private thank you very much marty for your for your thoughts um so just to let

00:51:51.980 everybody know previous to may 1st 2020 it was unlawful or not required for you to keep a record

00:51:58.000 of your transfer of a non-restricted firearm once those non-restricted firearms became prohibited

00:52:04.840 you had to keep them touchable and not even do anything with them.

00:52:08.760 But previous to that ordering council,

00:52:10.800 it was not required for you to keep a record of that sale.

00:52:14.160 So I'm hoping that everyone has sold all their newly prohibited weapons

00:52:19.140 in April of 2020.

00:52:22.760 And who'd you sell them to?

00:52:23.780 Well, as long as you saw a pile holder,

00:52:25.980 you didn't have to keep a record of that sale.

00:52:27.900 So unfortunately, I don't know who I sold mine to,

00:52:30.360 but I know all of mine are sold.

00:52:32.040 And for those that say, and I just want to,

00:52:34.000 there's a one caveat and here's my legal advice and this is true legal advice if you say you

00:52:38.840 drop it in the lake you are now charged with carelessness of a firearm and why didn't you

00:52:43.600 report it to the rcmp yeah so don't go that route yeah i see that one all the time uh yeah i lost it

00:52:50.460 in the lake that's a interesting one i i don't know if i had spoken about this last week but i

00:52:55.540 read i renewed my rpal and i was at rpal folks is uh it's just a pal right it's a possession and

00:53:01.980 acquisition license that's the name there's no such thing as an r pal but we call it an r pal

00:53:06.940 because some of us have a restricted or a non-restricted so we add the r in front of it

00:53:12.220 my my restricted possession and firearms and acquisition license was renewed last week i was

00:53:17.820 surprised i got it i got it in the mail i got my card in the mail i thought they were going to drag

00:53:22.860 their feet on it and sort of hold off on it and keep sending me letters saying you haven't

00:53:27.980 registered for the program but they're but here in alberta i think yeah is this fair to say jesse

00:53:32.700 do we have a pretty um supportive chief firearms officer uh chief firearms officer terry byron

00:53:42.220 sir bryant i do believe uh she is extremely supportive of albertans and their uh uh legal

00:53:50.220 right to hold firearms yes yeah yeah so so then they're not playing games here so i i i renewed

00:53:57.340 just before christmas and you know like i said whatever eight weeks later i got it i was happy

00:54:02.860 to get it and then i look and i reminded the people right when you get your pal uh it has

00:54:08.780 it comes stuck on a piece of paper and don't throw out that white piece of paper because at the bottom

00:54:13.020 of that white piece of paper are usually some conditions and if you read it does say don't

00:54:18.140 throw these out keep it with your card because the conditions are part of the license and i was

00:54:24.060 was surprised when i read my conditions that they're nearly identical to the old one so there's

00:54:28.120 no um yeah no shenanigans being played in alberta which is good yeah same with me sorry to uh i hope

00:54:36.240 there's no delay um uh same with mine i was mine was renewed uh spring like in 2024 so they're still

00:54:42.620 renewing our pals at that point right yeah and and and i'll say this as an observation a lot of

00:54:48.900 people who you know when you come to sign the petition you have to show me id and i'm really

00:54:54.340 impressed by the not impressed and surprised by the number of albertans who have a pal like when

00:54:59.980 they're opening their wallet you and they're giving you my their driver's license i often see

00:55:05.140 that right there it's a bit the older the older pals used to be recognizable they had like that

00:55:09.780 purple and blue stripe to it and you sort of they stood out not that i'm peeking in people's wallets

00:55:14.640 see what they have but you know casually i can observe that there's a lot of people in alberta

00:55:19.920 that have firearm permits which um which i'm not surprised by and i'm glad to hear that your

00:55:25.120 opinion of our chief firearm officer is that it that she's a reasonable lady uh holding up uh 0.65

00:55:31.280 her end of the deal awesome all right thanks jesse um so we're kind of running out of time

00:55:38.320 here i got a couple of minutes um literally like i'd love one more call i mean i i i've almost

00:55:45.520 exhausted every topic that i had on here um i'm trying to go through my list i'm gonna have to

00:55:52.400 have maybe a couple more topics next week uh what else happened this week john anything that you can

00:55:58.080 flash up on the screen oh well i'll bring this up uh i heard i heard a rumor that uh that pierre

00:56:04.800 poiliev is on his way to texas and everybody's saying that pierre's on his way to go talk with

00:56:12.160 joe rogan i find that interesting um i'll believe it when i see it i think pierre's probably more

00:56:20.240 likely going to texas as part of a trade delegation you know uh oil and all of that good stuff i guess

00:56:26.560 we never talked about the war in iran that seems to be uh winding down thank you somebody got me

00:56:32.560 a call let's take one last call before we sign off so name and where are you calling from and

00:56:37.360 thanks for doing this yeah hi this is dave i live south shore park east of beaumont go ahead dave

00:56:46.400 awesome yeah hey i got i have two questions so i i mentioned where i live in an acre subdivision

00:56:54.480 um will we whether the campus are reaching our area or is it mainly going to be in urban neighborhood

00:57:02.560 Uh, good question. Um, door to door is probably going to be, I live on an acreage as well. Right. And somebody asked me that, how come you're not going door to door? And I'm like, door to door on an acreage is difficult. It's a lot of walking. Everybody has gates and so forth and so forth. So I'd say, uh, most, most door to door activity will occur in urban resident residential area.

00:57:26.000 your best bet if you're looking for a place is to just go to stay free alberta and and then enter

00:57:30.800 beaumont or edmonton and then you'll see locations that are um that are either permanent or or for

00:57:37.920 a weekend so so yeah uh yeah i don't think yeah but go ahead part two your question is

00:57:45.840 yeah my second question is from your view not asking what you would do but from your view

00:57:51.360 if the referendum question is presented to alberta residents and the outcome is negative what

00:57:57.920 options might be available to those who support this initiative oh god very few i i mean that's

00:58:06.960 a fearful outcome for me because um it would oh yeah you know i i think we would be viewed as uh

00:58:14.000 i i think it would give uh uh carney and the liberals a new sense of of confidence that

00:58:20.560 they can do whatever the heck they want and there's no consequences because uh uh albertans

00:58:26.560 will continue to take a beating um no i don't know i'm i mean uh and i'm not going anywhere

00:58:33.840 okay so i'm not going anywhere i'm going to continue to stay here and fight and uh and do

00:58:38.320 what i can to uh i guess at that point we hoped plan b okay i'll answer it this way plan b is um

00:58:44.880 danielle is is still trying to get a better deal for alberta she's she has her sovereignty act she 1.00

00:58:53.120 she's she thinks that we can get a better deal within confederation so i would say if we have a

00:58:58.000 an unsuccessful referendum we could still say well look hopefully it's it you know maybe it's 40

00:59:04.240 who came out that's still a pretty good um bargaining chip for danielle so i guess we'd

00:59:08.960 give it to danielle and now we all line up behind danielle and say okay well let's let's keep

00:59:12.960 fighting to get a better deal that's the yeah okay and thinking back about the quebec referendum

00:59:20.880 it's not like well once i died everything just went away right there was still you know there's

00:59:26.160 still been that percolating in in the background for years but you and i we don't have a a generation

00:59:34.160 to wait yeah well i mean okay i mean i'm already happy i didn't even think i'd see a movement like

00:59:41.120 this in my lifetime so now i'm seeing it in my lifetime so this is i mean i'm hey listen i've

00:59:46.400 been sitting on the side of the road for 25 days in a row now uh doing four or five hours a day

00:59:51.360 and people ask me that like do you think this is going to be successful i'm like i wouldn't be

00:59:54.880 doing this if i thought this was a waste of time right i've committed like 120 hours of volunteer

00:59:59.600 time and and and and if it's unsuccessful me personally i will still look inwards and say

01:00:06.160 i did my part i tried to do something i'm one of those guys i feel sorry for people who drive by

01:00:10.960 every day and give me a thumbs down or whatever i feel like saying to a lot of those people like

01:00:14.900 what have you ever done right so i feel good about having stood for something and uh and and then and

01:00:21.780 i'm not going to get demoralized i mean uh i'll i'll cherish the event i hope it's successful

01:00:26.300 i'm confident it's going to be successful but if it's not then i'll uh i'll come up with a plan b

01:00:30.820 down the road i mean uh look at you and you brought up quebec i mean quebec i would say

01:00:35.700 quebec's two referendums ended up being pretty good for quebec um they've gotten a pretty sweet

01:00:41.280 deal subsequent to all of that right so maybe maybe it is what it is for us we'll see yeah

01:00:46.360 yeah great question thanks thanks dave okay thanks for your time marty all right cheers folks okay so

01:00:52.820 um or cheers dave so uh our yeah we're getting there i'm getting you folks you know this i think

01:00:58.860 you can sense hopefully the the my nervousness from the first few shows is going away i'm getting

01:01:04.960 the hang of this now i definitely got to come up with a few more topics uh me and john are working

01:01:10.480 together great now we're figuring out the system the questions everything else it is up to you

01:01:15.920 though that is this is a show where um i don't want to just be doing the monologues although

01:01:21.600 i like doing the monologues i give me some give me some better feedback some questions maybe

01:01:28.000 go underneath this video after you've watched the video you can give me questions for next

01:01:31.440 week if you want but don't be shy don't feel like you got to build up that courage to call me it's

01:01:37.040 uh it's no big deal we're just two folks uh having a chat maybe maybe i need to bring a beer or

01:01:43.040 something this is water and then we'll feel like we're having a lunch hour chat over a coffee or

01:01:48.400 something like that anyways closing comments here as usual thanks for joining this week you're

01:01:54.720 helping me you know i i hope you enjoy this i look forward to coming here not gonna lie i i do have

01:02:00.320 a lot of podcasts and other events that some days get tedious i look forward to this one i

01:02:05.280 like coming downtown gives me an excuse to come downtown the folks here are fantastic

01:02:09.360 uh corey morgan's i didn't even mention that corey morgan swung by my petition signing location

01:02:15.440 uh two days ago and coincidentally i saw somebody drive by and i said i think that's corey and then

01:02:21.360 sure enough it was corey so thanks for dropping by corey and like i said the folks here are great

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Western Standard - March 12, 2026

Stay Free Alberta canvassers face rising hostility (@Martyupnorth )

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