Tamara Lich & Chris Barber Trial： Justice or Politics？ ｜ The Pipeline
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Tamera Leach and Chris Barber have been found guilty of mischief and counselling others to disobey a court order, and the Crown is seeking a sentence of 7 years and 8 years in prison, respectively. What will they get?
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Let's get on with personal agendas, vendettas. The longest mischief trial in Canadian history
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has reached its final phase now with sentencing. I think nobody was shocked that they found Tamera
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Leach and Chris Barber guilty, but now we're at what would be the conclusion of this, I guess,
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with a sentence. Well, you know, this is sort of over tight with what we were speaking about
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just a moment ago about how the government is trying to manage people rather than govern.
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Yeah, the sentencing hearing for Tamera Leach and Chris Barber got started earlier today,
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and I'm going to say that how their case turns out is going to be one of those situations where,
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in the rearview mirror, everything you need to know about who runs Canada and how it is run,
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we'll be there to see. So a quick rundown. Let's just look back. A few months ago, Leach and Barber
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were found guilty of mischief on charges arising from their activities at the time of the Conway
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in 2022. And the Crown is seeking a prison sentence of seven years for Leach and eight
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years for Barber. Now, this is for mischief. You know, mischief is kicking over outhouses and
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causing a ruckus in the back alley at midnight. But they charged them for mischief, and I guess the
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law permits sentences of this size. And Barber was also convicted of counseling others to disobey a
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court order, which is why they're looking for a higher sentence from him. This, of course,
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is a little outrageous when you actually know and feel the issue. When people get half,
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people don't get seven years for killing each other. You know, we had a story just in the last
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week about somebody who attacked his girlfriend, stabbed her three times, hit her over the head with
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a lead pipe in three years, you know. I mean, if the government likes your point of view,
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you can cause all the mischief you like and you won't get charged. So really what happened here
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was that the Convoy and all those activities exposed the intellectual nudity of the Trudeau regime.
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And governments hate to be exposed like that. So they cracked down hard. And you'll remember how the
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bank accounts were attached and how they were listening in on the cell phones and some fairly
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vigorous suppression of public gatherings there. People getting charged with horses and so forth and
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so on. But, you know, the provincial premiers were... This was all about control. The provincial
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premiers were told that they wouldn't get federal money unless they cooperated with what was often a
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nonsensical plan. I mean, we're seeing now that the vaccines were not universally safe and not
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universally effective. But we were told at the time, we've got to do this. And this, of course, was where
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this started. It came when truckers... Very solitary occupation, being a trucker. You're in the cab,
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you don't have too much company. And they were advised, cross-border truckers, very late in the pandemic,
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that suddenly they had to be vaccinated. Well, they knew that there was no difference between a virus
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on the American side of the border and on the virus on the Canadian side.
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And they knew what we all suspected, that the vaccine didn't do anything for you. So,
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in short, the truckers knew that the Trudeau government's vaccine mandate for them had nothing
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to do with science and everything to do with politics. And so they said enough. And we all know
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what happened. And there won't be any apologies coming from the government either. So, look, that's the...
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These two people are in a very awkward spot. My guess is, if you want to guess, is that they'll be...
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They're already found guilty. They'll be given a stiff sentence. And then, as a generous act of
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condescension, they will be suspended or not... They won't actually go to jail. But the messages
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out there don't mess with us. We're in charge. Yeah, I hope you're correct in that sense. And
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I suspect the sentence will be similar in that. I mean, they've been found guilty. That portion's done.
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The hearings were held. Maybe there'll be an appeal. Who knows? But now it's what will be
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the appropriate punishment. Both of them did, again, an excessive amount of time pre-court, you know,
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without bail for a mischief charge. And that tends to be considered triple time served. I think a
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judge could come in and say, you know, don't do it again. There's your time. This is your suspended
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sentence. But it's what the Crown is asking for is still outrageous. Just as I was driving in this
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morning, I was listening about a horrific case just today in Calgary. The Crown has submitted on a case
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where two parents tortured their 18-month-old to death and they've been convicted. The Crown is
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asking for eight years. So the Crown considers that sort of crime to be on par with what Leach and
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Barber did. I mean, I understand the Crown can ask for whatever they like. It's up to the judge in the
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end. But that says a lot about how they're viewing this particular offense versus, you know, some of the
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stuff I think that is almost universally people could say is horrible and deserves the full extent
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of the law. The other part is, they want to make an example, but would a harsher sentence be
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preventative? Does it look like Barber or Leach are going to start another convoy? Does it look like
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they're at risk of putting the public at risk any longer? I haven't seen any indication of that.
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Erica, I would think the judge would take those things into account. Again, I mean, he's found them
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guilty, but I don't think you'll be inspired to give them an excessive incarceration or anything.
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Well, I would hope not. I think the challenge we're facing right now is that this is political
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and this is, you know, I haven't been tracking, unfortunately, but the appointment of the judges
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is federal. And so we've seen a big surgence of the judicial being influenced by appointments by
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the federal government over the last decade, even the Supreme Court, because Harper hadn't filled
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many of those vacancies. And so we're in a situation where the judicial system, I think,
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is trying to set an example by these individuals. But I mean, if you're comparing and contrasting
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their crime, which they've already been found guilty of, especially on the mischief file, it's
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like, well, what happened to all those people that ruined statues and violated public property and
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decided to light churches on fire, like things like that? What is their punishment? And if it's not
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equal to what we're seeing from Barbara and Lynch, like, why is that the case? And how are the values
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and beliefs being penetrated to our judicial system? So that's my first concern. The second part is kind
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of coming back to what I was talking about with Parks Canada. It's like, does the judicial system not
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realize the huge impact we have on human trafficking right now or domestic abuse? I mean, every day, even on
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LinkedIn, I'm seeing stories of women across Canada being killed because of the fact that we don't
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have harsh punishment for those dealing with domestic violence. And we don't have the right services to
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protect those women and children and men in some cases, or even elder abuse, right? Like, I think
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that this is one where it's just so political that my jaw will not drop if this sentence is higher than we
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think it should be. But that is completely inappropriate and completely, you know, unfounded
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that it's comparing these two cases that are far like the one you use, that are far more
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consequential to society. Like, I don't think they're going to get out and be the first thing they're
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going to do is go start another protester convoy. Like, I think they've learned their lesson. They've
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served copious amounts of time. And hopefully that gets taken into consideration. But I wouldn't be
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surprised if this was to politicize and make an example out of these individuals. So we'll see
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what happens. I unfortunately don't have confidence in the judicial process given the penetration by the
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government and political values being jammed down their throats. So hopefully this judge has a better
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You know, you've brought that to the right point in the discussion, Erica. You're talking
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about the politicization of the judiciary. I had the papers put in my hands a few years ago about people
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who wanted to be judges. I always thought that, you know, to be a judge, somebody tapped you on the
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shoulder and said, you know, you fit. But no, you just put an application in if you're qualified at all.
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And so what's on the qualification form? It's very interesting. It's a very woke agenda that they are
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so they're looking for a certain type of person who thinks a certain type of way.
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And neither Corey nor I would qualify. And it wouldn't purely be on our lack of
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legal training. I might from the gender I check, but then you do a background check on me and they
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probably I don't fit onto their inclusive narrative. Erica, that's your next stop on your regimen.
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Point being, but that's the- It's probably similar to the Senate application.
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You just stayed a different prime minister, I think.
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But anyway, so that's, so the system is stacked, but it harks back to what we were talking about a
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little earlier about the way that the government is trying to influence Canadians, who they are,
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what they think, what they can do. And the convoy was a challenge to that whole way of thinking.
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So they are absolutely going to focus their hatred. Let's not beat around the bush. They don't like
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Leach and Barber. They're going to focus that on those two individuals as a warning to everybody
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else. And you know what the proof of this is going to be? One of our columnists pointed this out
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yesterday. He said, in the West, Leach and Barber will be heroes. In the East, they will be widely
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and universally disparaged. Well, and I mean- And that our democracy might not be a democracy,
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but a dictatorship. Maybe that might be an undertone. Well, and just to look from, you know,
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to close it off, like from political motive, if that's indeed the thing, I would think politically,
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the liberals, especially with the new prime minister, just want to put this one to bed.
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It's been years, you know, give them a suspended sentence, get it out of off the docket and stop
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people from hearing about it. But if they give them time in federal prison, they're going to reignite
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this and they're going to martyr them. And it's not going to have the effect of calming the protests.
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It might spawn a whole new one. And I just think if the judge is looking from that perspective too,
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everybody's just kind of better off by getting this thing finished and into the history books
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rather than a current problem. But we'll see. Nothing surprises in this country anymore.