00:02:20.500We're going to talk about the state of the independence campaign.
00:02:24.140It's now underway. You've probably seen some signs popping up.
00:02:27.820Some of them may even have Corey Morgan's name on them.
00:02:32.340Well, where is the campaign at now that it's underway?
00:02:37.160But first, we're going to start with the announcements, sort of announcement on pipelines in Alberta.
00:02:44.720We've got, there was some progress on the front for the so-called MOU between Alberta Premier Daniel Smith and Prime Minister Mark Carney.
00:02:54.620And then between Doug Ford, Scott Moe and Daniel Smith, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario, notably not including Manitoba, just proposing that we build a pipeline from Alberta through to Sarnia and Ontario.
00:03:12.020but that's not that's less of a plan than more of an aspirational wouldn't this be nice if we did do
00:03:17.460it nigel well it would be nice because right now we are shipping alberto oil to sarnia but it's
00:03:25.400going down through the united states um you may have heard line five much discussed as when the
00:03:31.100governor of michigan was trying to close it down uh this this uh proposal that doug ford and
00:03:39.080and premier smith were talking about earlier this week at i knew it wasn't that serious because they
00:03:46.520made it at the at a stampede breakfast you don't come in with a you know multi-billion dollar
00:03:51.240project at a stampede breakfast and also i didn't see any other the of the industry types around
00:03:56.840there who would normally be there if there if something big was going on but don't let that
00:04:03.080uh get in the way of thinking about this as an extremely solid proposal because
00:04:09.080that line five is 73 years old michigan is unreasonable but it is also got a case that
00:04:19.800if that thing breaks there will be an environmental mess and they could shut that down and if they
00:04:26.440shut that down how are you going to get that oil to sarnia well obviously it would be through
00:04:31.400something like this so although you know most of our attention is focused on the west coast project
00:04:37.880rightly so i mean that's a million barrels a day uh there is reason to take this plan to ship it
00:04:45.800through manitoba very seriously and of course premier canoe knows that so he's he's pulling
00:04:51.640out his markers already if mr eb can get something out of a pipeline then manitoba would certainly
00:04:57.640want to do the same thing well dave let's talk about uh premier wab canoe and manitoba it did
00:05:04.760not sign on to this he is um i'd say it's he's not as strident in his opposition as bc premier
00:05:12.440david eby but certainly less than supportive of of the pipeline uh what's he trying to get out of
00:05:19.120it do you think he's trying to outright stop it or is he trying to get what it appears is going to
00:05:24.000be the case with the proposed west coast pipeline which is unconstitutionally a province gets to
00:05:30.360collect a toll on goods moving through its territory.
00:05:35.980You remember at the Western Premier's Conference, Wob Canoe publicly dressed down Daniel Smith
00:05:41.500for what he called a lack of consultation with Indigenous groups over the referendum.
00:05:47.380And he's basically said the same thing about the pipeline.
00:05:51.000Now, Daniel Smith and Doug Ford at the press conference on Monday both went out of their
00:05:55.000way to say they want Indigenous consultation and they want Indigenous ownership, some Indigenous
00:06:02.620ownership of the pipeline. So there'll be talks, there'll be gobs of money handed out, and I think
00:06:09.780eventually Mr. Canu will acquiesce to the pipeline. I also think he may make a demand to do a side
00:06:19.260pipeline up to Churchill. The government of Manitoba is looking to have Port of Churchill
00:06:26.060designated as a major project, nation building. So if that happens and we can start shipping oil
00:06:33.360out of Churchill, that only enriches both Alberta and Manitoba. Yeah. Corey, it's not yet set in
00:06:42.900stone, but it's been pretty strongly implied between Mark Carney's talks, public statements
00:06:50.340with BC Premier David Eby, that BC might get essentially a toll out of a West Coast pipeline.
00:06:58.380That is wildly, wildly unconstitutional. One of the ideas of having a country is that goods and
00:07:05.860services can travel through its subnational units, its provinces or its states, without
00:07:12.060out what amounts to tariffs. This amounts to a tariff for merely passing through. Essentially,
00:07:19.120we'd be turning the Strait of Juan de Fuca into the Strait of Hormuz, and BC plays the role of
00:07:25.820Iran in this case. But if that goes forward, that seems to set the precedent that Wab Kanu would
00:07:33.140have every right then to put his hand up to and say, yeah, we'd like our tolls on Alberta oil
00:07:39.100passing through our territory as well.
00:07:42.060Yeah, there's a bunch of terrible precedents being set here.
00:07:45.400And to be blunt, I am incredibly disappointed in Premier Daniel Smith now.
00:07:49.980I've been as supportive as I can with her for trying to negotiate and move things forward.
00:07:54.480But now to paint a nationalized pipeline where you're giving in to basically extortion from British Columbia that is non-constitutional for tariffs for us to move our product across a province and to try and paint that as a victory, it's an embarrassment.
00:08:11.500And we need provincial leadership to stand up and say, that's enough.
00:08:14.540We've got a constitution, as you said, it's a federation.
00:08:18.000That means we're supposed to be able to move our product across provinces.
00:08:21.560The prime minister has the authority to basically put his foot down and say, this is going to happen and he won't use it.
00:08:28.420This is one of the worst precedents I've ever seen.
00:08:31.320And I can't believe we don't have provincial leadership speaking up on this.
00:08:35.620We can't capitulate any longer on this.
00:08:38.540What other things are going to be nationalized now?
00:08:40.320rather than getting rid of the regulatory hurdles that the federal government has placed in
00:08:43.960or refused to at least help us bypass, we're just going to nationalize everything. The next oil
00:08:49.540sands approval, the next coal mine, we just have to wait for tax dollars to go into it. This is a
00:08:55.200terrible, terrible deal. And then to pitch another one, possibly to Ontario with even more tax
00:09:00.580dollars going into it, I'm just, I don't know, I'm flabbergasted. I cannot believe somebody who's
00:09:06.700spoken so strongly against nationalization of things that should be covered by private industry
00:09:11.760is suddenly coming forward and saying nationalizing a pipeline and paying tolls to BC is a good idea.
00:09:16.860Maybe what we should be doing is putting a toll on every train car that comes across Alberta from
00:09:23.020east to west until the government realizes that the idiocy of allowing this sort of non-constitutional
00:09:28.320policy to be entrenched. Any one of you can pick up on this, but I want to continue on this topic.
00:09:36.700So, you know, we're talking about this now being definitely the West Coast pipeline, possibly the Eastern pipeline, although that's not even a proposal stage at this point.
00:09:48.020It's an agreement between three of the four provinces involved that they would theoretically like a pipeline.
00:09:55.940But for the West Coast one, at least, we're talking about this now being, if not owned and nationalized, at the minimum, backed by taxpayers.
00:10:06.700to so-called we have to de-risk these things because uh the the legislative and regulatory
00:10:14.000barriers that are in place have made these such wildly risky prospects anyone any investor who's
00:10:20.700looked at building a pipeline in Canada in the last 15 years knows that this is just a hornet's
00:10:26.460nest to kick up you're going to get all sorts of opposition um so now we're looking at government
00:10:31.920doing this. And the federal government, it's shown more flexibility, at least than the Trudeau
00:10:37.780government did, but has shown no willingness to get rid of the West Coast tanker ban. It showed
00:10:44.300no willingness to get rid of the No More Pipelines Act. All of these things that are still in place
00:10:50.200and make it extremely difficult. Conditions for Indigenous ownership. I have no problems with
00:10:55.760Indigenous ownership as long as they're treated like any of the other potential owners, if they
00:11:01.220want to be a part of it. That's great. That's a good thing. But I don't know why we would then
00:11:05.580give ownership at a cost to the taxpayer below market rates. That's making everyone pay for it.
00:11:13.740And then the cost, you know, we remember the Trans Mountain Pipeline, it was supposed to
00:11:18.820cost somewhere in the neighborhood of three to five billion dollars when the federal government
00:11:22.440purchased that from TransCanada. By the time all was said and done, once the government gets
00:11:28.880involved, costs tend to get a little out of hand. I think the final bill was something like $30
00:11:33.280billion. I want pipelines everywhere. I want to build them north, south, east, west, and upwards
00:11:39.240to the moon and down to China. But I want them to make money, and they shouldn't be a burden to the
00:11:44.800taxpayer. These things do make money, but they don't need to cost. They shouldn't be costing
00:11:49.860the taxpayer. So I don't know. We're in a position now where we could theoretically build pipelines,
00:11:55.060but at what cost well you know it's it's the position of the federal government by the way i
00:12:00.740take what um cory said i i mean i i agree i'm still trying to figure that one out but you know
00:12:08.540when you want the federal government to stay out of your hair it's very hard to push them aside
00:12:14.400they will use any excuse well you know the sort of the air crosses the border so you have to do
00:12:20.660to carbon remission our way oh well not if you're importing oil from overseas that there's no
00:12:30.680there's no remediation there but if you're making it in alberta you've got to bury an equivalent
00:12:34.600amount of carbon dioxide to what it takes to produce the oil um and you say well stay out of
00:12:40.260our turf they don't know where the federal government we can make anything happen that
00:12:43.860we want to make happen but on the other hand we can't tell david eby to accept a pipeline
00:12:49.600We can't tell Wab Canoe to accept a pipeline. We can't tell Quebec to New Brunswick to
00:12:56.480decarbonize their oil, or we don't want to. So you have to then say, well, is this actually a
00:13:02.720weakness of character? Or is there something more sinister, like things can be done, but Alberta is
00:13:09.440not allowed to benefit out of it? Is this the unwritten instructions here? I mean, this carbon
00:13:16.240capture effort that the pathways alliance is going to i don't know who's going to want to buy
00:13:22.000this for this oil because if they recapture the cost of the burying the carbon as opposed to
00:13:26.720passing it on to the taxpayer they actually recover the cost it's just going to be 50 a
00:13:30.960barrel more expensive than whatever else is out there so i i don't let's let's either have a uh
00:13:39.840let's have a federal government that pushes its weight around on when it's right on the
00:13:48.560constitution or let's have a federal government that stands back and just keeps to its own lot
00:13:54.000that's actually what i would prefer yeah but when when pipelines are completed they make money
00:14:00.560yeah right they're they're a money maker for whoever owns them uh whether it be a province
00:14:06.400or whether it may be a company, you can make money.
00:14:09.120So it's just having to deal with all these silly regulations
00:18:04.580So, I mean, we pretty much saw what we would expect out of a barbecue like that
00:18:09.660in a gathering, just speaking to the party loyal, staying safe,
00:18:13.220coloring within the lines, and not much going on.
00:18:15.760And so I, you know, I didn't find myself shocked by anything.
00:18:20.320The independence movement itself right now, I mean, it seems to be finally, it sure was slow getting out of the gates with a campaign coming.
00:18:27.660And, you know, it's still topping the news.
00:18:31.360I mean, everywhere we see the independence issue is there and it's going, but it really hasn't been rolling as a good campaign so far.
00:18:38.840It's kind of changing a bit with Keith Wilson.
00:18:40.540And I was very happy to see an actual press release come out from a group responding to breaking news and an issue.
00:18:46.480I mean, this is the sort of thing that should have been happening months ago, but now it is starting to go.
00:18:51.160And I mean, if the movement can get established, I guess, over the course of the summer when things get slow,
00:18:56.400September, October, we're going to see a real campaign get rolling and really see where things are on the independence front.
00:19:01.660As you said, the polls are all over the map.
00:19:04.420And with it being a non-binding question, I think the independence movement could really potentially capture a good chunk of people who just want to safely express discontent with Ottawa in the referendum this fall without going with the full nuclear option of independence yet.
00:19:19.360But the campaign is going to have to do better before being able to grasp that.
00:19:27.540I mean, there's early fundraising numbers out.
00:19:30.760I don't have the exact numbers in front of me here.
00:19:33.100But in terms of at least what's been reported for fundraising, the independent side has blown the Federalists out of the water, Dave.
00:19:41.220It's it's not even close. Now, it's not gargantuan sums of money, but it's it's like that big in the grand scheme of things for a campaign.
00:19:49.540But now there are I think there's a lot more of the independence groups out there because there's like, you know, like literally Corey just like was like, no one's got signs.
00:20:00.100So I'm going to start a little thing, make signs.
00:20:01.560And then it just kind of blew up and got out of hand, I guess.
00:20:05.620But then there's other little guys, people I haven't even heard of,
00:20:09.060and they've just gone and registered as a third-party advertiser.
00:20:12.180And they're like $5,000, and they're selling some T-shirts or something.
00:20:16.100There's a lot of really small ones out there.
00:20:20.520I've expected and do still expect the Federalist side to be much more well-funded.
00:20:26.400They've got big business on their side.
00:24:49.000You know, when I talk to people in, you know, the UCP government, it's, you know, they'll be like, you know, hey, if we get this pipeline deal, you know,
00:24:57.220do you think that'll push support for independence down?
00:25:00.720You know, I talked to federal conservatives, largely.
00:25:05.400Mark Carney seems to be on that train as well.
00:25:07.880The media, they all seem to think the whole independence thing is just about pipelines.
00:25:13.000I see pipelines as a symptom, not a cause.
00:26:10.480It's the values that are widely supported in eastern Canada
00:26:14.740that keep putting a very woke liberal government into office
00:26:19.500that people around here are just sick of.
00:26:23.900But nevertheless, just looking at this very narrowly as there's a referendum coming, what mood are people going to be in when they go in there to tick their box?
00:26:36.500I'm just saying that a lot of them don't understand the other aspects of this.
00:26:42.320Some of them might actually even share those woke values with Eastern Canada, but still don't like the financial relationship between Alberta and the rest of Canada.
00:26:51.440But if there is something that can be presented as a shiny object, look, here it is, we've done it, that will satisfy a significant number of people.
00:27:02.820I think it is a major issue for the, if we're going to divide...
00:27:10.240I mean, if we're going to divide Alberta into broad segments, there's a third, roughly, that support independence relatively stridently.
00:27:19.400There's, I'm going to call it a third.
00:27:20.740it's probably closer to 40% that are just hardcore federalists. And then another rough
00:27:26.400third that are siding generally with the federalist side, but are, you know, some people have called
00:27:31.780them frustrated federalists. For them, pipelines are probably a big enough symbolic issue that
00:27:38.480if you, you know, we get a pipeline, they can say, okay, well, maybe everything's not great,
00:27:42.500But good enough, I'm voting to stay. So, you know, as it is politically, the pipeline issue, I think, Corey, is on, it's about that middle group, the so-called frustrated federalists, keeping them happy. It's not about winning over the rough third of Albertans that are already in the independence camp.
00:28:06.940yeah the independence movement runs much deeper than just a pipeline as you said it is a symbol
00:28:13.340for that 30 or so you know the ones i tend to talk to i haven't heard from people saying yeah
00:28:18.200if we could just get a pipeline i'd suddenly love federalism that ship is long sailed we're talking
00:28:23.000about cultural issues we're talking about personal freedoms we're talking about mass immigration
00:28:27.560things that this pipeline will do absolutely nothing to address they're trying to paint it
00:28:33.740up to address that mushy middle, but I think they're underestimating the economic acumen
00:28:38.660of that 30% in the middle. I mean, just a pipeline alone doesn't mean it's going to swing people if
00:28:45.620the pipeline is crap, and the one they're offering is crap. In fact, it's shown that the federal
00:28:52.060system has Alberta over a barrel, and the only way to possibly get a pipeline done is to capitulate
00:28:58.720with a whole pile of crazy conditions from carbon capture to tolls in another province to
00:29:03.520endless rounds of indigenous consultation. If anything, I think, unless they can really show
00:29:11.360some progress with a private investor and some groundbreaking on this soon, this pipeline attempt
00:29:17.300thinking is going to calm the independence movement may very well have the opposite effect
00:29:21.980on that middle group when they realize just how economically ugly the position is that Alberta's
00:29:28.520in right now and how much the federal system has put the province into that corner so i mean a
00:29:36.400pipeline success won't get rid of the 30 but a pipeline failure can make that 30 grow i think
00:29:42.660quite rapidly and i just this is you know that 10 token ownership from pembina as a you know as
00:29:49.040consultants on this thing that's not enough to make even your average albertan who's often very
00:29:54.700familiar with the oil field economics, look at it and say, yeah, this is a good deal. So I think
00:29:59.500they're going to have to pretty this thing up a lot more if they think it's going to be the success
00:30:02.540they hope it's going to be. Well, I think it would be largely successful with that rough third in the
00:30:09.520middle, the frustrated Federalists, because their default is still status quo. So from their
00:30:14.440perspective, it might be enough with them. It wouldn't be enough with the third that are already
00:30:18.300on independence um and as you said it's it's cultural issues now it's our right to not have
00:30:24.560very simple and basic firearms stolen from us digital id censorship mass migration the only
00:30:32.400pipeline i think that maybe when me back over to the federalist cause would be a deportations
00:30:36.500pipeline we just throw all the illegal migrants through a pipeline and shoot them off to cargo
00:30:41.140ships on uh on the east and the west coast that that that kind of pipeline might uh maybe that
00:30:46.160wins me over i'm not sure that'd be extremely economical no matter how much it costs uh but
00:30:51.600you know but it's a cultural issue yeah no but these are these are cultural issues now i mean um
00:30:57.760you know so i'm you know i've got a debate tomorrow uh on on the on the independence question with
00:31:01.920duane bratt and uh so i'm not going to get into duane himself it's not about the the personalities
00:31:08.720involved but you know let's let's look at who the loudest opponents of independence are it's not
00:31:14.400not uniformly so but a lot of the loudest people speaking the most strident opponents are these are
00:31:19.680people who three years ago were tearing down statues of queen victoria and sir john m mcdonald
00:31:25.320these are people who brought down the canadian flag as a symbol of genocidal shame these are
00:31:30.920people who tried to rename parks streets and uh and public squares these are the people standing
00:31:38.280up now waving the flag well you know what samuel johnson used to say back in the 18th century
00:31:45.480patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel and we have scoundrels hot and cold running
00:31:51.240even right here in calgary who actually renamed the uh for calgary the the confluence confluence
00:31:59.160well there's also if you supported renaming for calgary into the confluence i don't want to hear
00:32:05.640you you know there are there are good faith federalists out there uh who did not who have
00:32:10.860not tried to replace canada's history uh for those guys i've just got an honest disagreement
00:32:16.540on the issues on and that's fine there's nothing personal there but if you were about renaming for
00:32:23.300calgary if you were taking down the flags toppling statues changing the national anthem any one of
00:32:29.060these things uh you don't get to lecture anyone else about being an unconditional canadian you
00:32:35.580This one, trying to get rid of the Canada Day celebration because...
00:33:03.040it would take you a while to figure out that you weren't in Alberta.
00:33:05.580But these people do still support and elect and keep in power a group of a political party that is antithetical to not only the interests of Alberta, but to all these values that we're talking about.
00:33:21.660There's just too many people out east who are prepared to do that.
00:33:25.480So you have to admit that the color is the whole country.
00:41:13.500um so i i think their their campaign tactics have evolved here now behind the john dutton
00:41:19.760like figure then you've got the david suzuki type activists so that's where i want to go with this
00:41:25.360discussion is you know where does uh this anti-coal movement go from here so they've they've
00:41:32.180failed to get their referendum they don't have the time they don't have the signatures um but
00:41:37.940the ndp has been very uh i'm not sure the environmental movement like this because
00:41:42.820they've been very, they, the, um, the anti-coal guys have not wanted the NDP too far up front
00:41:49.020because the NDP is still the NDP in Alberta. It's got a limited appeal, we can say. Um,
00:41:56.900but the NDP have grasped onto this. So I expect that the NDP are going to make this a part of
00:42:01.420their platform, not because they think they're going to win, uh, any seats in the areas where
00:42:06.840the coal mining takes place. Those areas are in solidly conservative constituencies. Uh,
00:42:11.360The Crows in this past itself, which is kind of the epicenter of where this controversy is about,
00:42:17.220they had a referendum on this last year, and they voted, what was it, like 70% or something?
00:42:23.520Overwhelmingly, with a high turnout, overwhelmingly they voted to go forward with coal mining.
00:42:28.680So that means jobs for these areas that are often very isolated.
00:42:31.240So they're not trying to win seats there, but it's trying to buttress the anti-development movement.
00:42:36.160And, you know, so like, Corey, if, you know, you remember before Rachel Notley became premier in 2015, the NDP was actually quite stridently anti-oil and gas.
00:42:48.320And it was anti-pipeline. It was pretty similar kind of to the B.C. NDP.
00:42:53.400They changed their tune when they kind of woke up one day and looked around at each other and found themselves in the cabinet running the Alberta government.
00:42:59.800And they're like, OK, if we want to have a hope in hell of actually hanging on to power, we have to change our tune on these things.
00:43:06.340We're going to need the money from it. But when they were just kind of a downtown Edmonton party with two to four seats under Brian Mason, et cetera, they were pretty hard into this.
00:43:18.000So I see this as kind of a sop to that hardcore anti-development eco-base, but the movement itself, I've seen some, they've now got, you know, a significant, they have a campaign organization, they've got the signatures of, you know, 170 odd thousand people.
00:43:38.080That can now be parried into other kinds of anti-development movements.
00:43:41.540They could go after logging, they could go after small regional pipelines, that kind of thing.
00:43:45.660yeah we'll we'll see what comes of it i mean as you said they became more pragmatic when they
00:43:50.860realized that they're actually pursuing power they've got to support at least some degree of
00:43:54.880industry in alberta i don't know if this coal mining thing i mean everybody likes to you know
00:43:59.460coal's been so so villainized and and uh you know effectively pointed out as some type of dirty
00:44:04.640energy source even though this would be predominantly used for metals i don't know if
00:44:08.380it's a smart area for the ndp to get into in the region of the people actually affected as you
00:44:12.580pointed out i was in blair moore yesterday and there are signs all over supporting the coal
00:44:16.420development down there it brings me back to memories of the friends of the old man way back
00:44:21.400in the 90s when the left went bananas because the old man river was going to be damned right in that
00:44:25.160same area oh the world's going to end the environment's going to be ruined all the rest of
00:44:29.020it the dam got built nothing bad happened life went on so i think nichi's going to have to seek
00:44:35.380out a better wedge issue than this one okay all right well we're out of time for that uh we'll go
00:44:41.400to our parting shots start with uh dave uh the chicken littles of the world said that when the
00:44:47.320independence movement started to take shape in alberta it would kill off any sort of investments
00:44:53.060into the province well today premier daniel smith announced mark zuckerberg who's a fairly smart guy
00:44:59.520his company meta is going to be investing 10 billion dollars into a ai center in northern
00:45:05.920elbowed us so chicken littles wrong as usual i don't so uh apparently we're going to buy german
00:45:12.800submarines so u-boats u-boats well you see who better than to give an opinion on this than
00:45:20.240somebody who actually fought the battle of the atlantic so you probably know bill wilson uh he's
00:45:25.840still alive he's 102 years old and he's one of the few people around who actually knows what it's
00:45:31.200like to stand on the heaving deck of a corvette as depth charges are launched against uh ultra sea
00:45:38.160boots and um i asked him this morning gave him a quick call said well is this a good is this you
00:45:44.480know how do you feel about that and he said look german u-boats are probably the best they're
00:45:50.800darned hard to kill i support the decision i feel like the technology has changed a bit since the
00:45:56.240battle of the atlantic but uh i take the point well he said kind things about your people so
00:46:02.160what do you mean your people that's racist nigel
00:46:06.960we had the german flag up in here i know
00:46:11.120only for a couple of days then they lost they were humiliated
00:46:18.480argentina cheated their way we've fallen back to argentina they're our hope now
00:46:22.560uh okay cory just a shout out to our friends at the ctv they reported on a man repeatedly
00:46:30.080committing indecent acts in the chestermere park pretty frightening to think of their description
00:46:36.000and text all it said though was 20 this person is 20 to 40 years of age and has a slim build
00:46:43.200then if you go into the story look at the picture the person is clearly male has a big beard and is
00:46:48.320most definitely of south asian origin not to slur it south asians i don't care if the person was
00:46:53.600white i want to hear that they're white if they were chinese looking i want to hear that they're
00:46:57.040chinese looking the goal should be to catch the pervert and instead they went with political
00:47:01.360correctness and they're putting people at risk by refusing to describe these criminals
00:47:05.760dave uh we covered that story and we used the police description it included a line that ctv
00:47:11.840i guess intentionally excluded didn't it did it the police described him as medium complexion
00:47:18.320yes medium uh which i thought was like that's a very politically correct way of saying brown
00:47:23.440yeah i mean what as corey says when you see the picture of this guy he's definitely yeah right
00:47:28.720you can tell so yeah yeah so ctv intentionally excluded a pretty important detail of who this
00:47:36.080guy is ctv's gone downhill haven't they they've been gone a long time they've been gone a long
00:47:41.440time okay and uh there's no time for me to have a parting shot oh so i'll just remind everyone again
00:47:47.360about uh the debate taking place uh tomorrow evening if you're in the calgary area for stampede
00:47:54.080or you live around uh 5 30 at the glenmore inn and conference center it's only ten dollars we're
00:47:59.120just covering the costs uh for the uh debate on the independence question between myself
00:48:05.040and mount royal professor duane brett come on out it's going to be a great time as we hash it out
00:48:10.320don't forget your video on friday oh yeah yeah um it's been pre-recorded uh
00:48:18.320yeah yeah it's been pre-recorded uh we we didn't do it we didn't release it at the
00:48:23.600time for security reasons but uh i i did an interview with the uh israeli ambassador to
00:48:28.320canada uh you know uh how do i pronounce his last name again moad moad uh very interesting
00:48:37.440interview we talked about uh you know what he's in town for the stampede for but also some of the
00:48:41.760some of the bigger uh issues uh it was it was i think i like to think it was a tough but fair
00:48:48.480interview uh and really kind of gets into things in a way that uh you know we're probably not used
00:48:54.780to seeing in the legacy media uh when we're talking to someone like an ambassador so all
00:49:00.680right that's it in the store and the store buy some hats i'm wearing this because i can't could
00:49:06.960bring my uh my cowboy lid today because i took the bike in but all right that's it for today
00:49:12.920thank you dave nigel cory and uh john on production thank all of you don't even have
00:49:19.720time to plug uh subscriptions we're out of time thank you very much happy stampede and god bless