00:02:19.620Welcome to the Courtney Morgan show for Monday, April 12th.
00:02:24.140Our live broadcasts are coming along on the Western Standard.
00:02:29.520we'll cover some of the pressing news which unfortunately is going to be mostly covet based
00:02:34.640again you know we're all sick and tired of covet sick of talking about it i'm looking forward to
00:02:40.400whenever the time comes down the road when we can be reporting on and discussing political things
00:02:44.880that aren't code related but unfortunately this thing really is actually dominating our lives
00:02:50.880and we've got to keep going on about it uh but let's we hopefully we're working our way out to
00:02:57.120of it. So today I've got a panel coming up in a little while of some individuals who've been
00:03:01.960impacted by COVID. I mean, we all are, but it's not the COVID itself, it's the restrictions. And
00:03:06.980all we hear about on the media end of things, of course, is about the damage that the virus and the
00:03:12.660pandemic itself causes. Fair enough, but they are not showing the other side. Like this whole thing
00:03:17.860in business, everywhere else, in your own life, even if you're doing it unconsciously, you do
00:03:22.420cost-benefit analysis on when you're going to do something, when you're going to take an action
00:03:26.840you've got to think of the reaction. Is what you're doing worth it? Is it going to be better
00:03:31.720for it? Or are you causing more damage than what you're hoping to do? And we only see one side.
00:03:38.940We're only hearing about the negative of the COVID, but we're not hearing about the negatives
00:03:43.560of what these restrictions are doing. And not just businesses, but on mental health with people
00:03:48.460and so many other levels. So I'm going to talk to some people about that. We really need to hear
00:03:54.000more of it i mean i was listening to the media all weekend yesterday the big report oh my lord oh my
00:03:59.440lord the variants are coming the big very very boogeyman that the latest thing is they keep
00:04:03.800moving the goal posts and there's new things to keep coming up to tell us why we can't lift
00:04:08.260restrictions why we can't start letting people live their lives again the the flavor of the month
00:04:12.920is is variants so we are indeed seeing some more people in hospital a few more in icu but uh again
00:04:19.420were nowhere close to overwhelming them. I remember they were setting up field hospitals
00:04:23.760a year ago from now. We were supposed to be able to have hundreds and hundreds of people
00:04:26.960in ICU if we needed to, and we never needed to. This isn't the plague. This isn't the
00:04:30.940Spanish flu, contrary to what they're saying. And the thing that the news didn't report
00:04:34.680on, it's funny, dead silent. One person passed away, and I know a lot of people like to debate
00:04:40.260that with or of COVID, but one person yesterday out of 4.4 million people in Alberta, one
00:04:45.200person died and that's tragic for the one person but I don't know how old that person was really
00:04:49.780how long were they gonna be here we want to extend life as much as possible I'm not trying to be
00:04:54.700glib but we've got to look at the cost benefit here 4.4 million people one passed away this is
00:05:01.700not a huge thing it's good news but they don't report the good news let's talk about that people
00:05:06.940aren't dying as much it's great not hearing about it it's also been a big weekend of protests people
00:05:13.940are getting tired of this. They're finally starting to stand up, push back a bit, and
00:05:19.180speak up on things. And so at the Greatest Life church site, I mean, the fences were set up by
00:05:27.820the police. They bound it right in. They knew that this is going to be a problem. So they try
00:05:33.360to be proactive. But of course, all it did was infuriate people. I mean, we're already infringing
00:05:38.680on free association, infringing on free religion. And then to put up these fences and say, you can't
00:05:43.620even get close to that church. Well, the protesters came out in the hundreds. We saw, you know, mixed
00:05:49.740behavior. Some just wanted to quietly protest. Some actually came and started ripping some of
00:05:53.920the fences down. In Quebec, I mean, there are outright riots. They've had people in the street
00:06:02.840smashing things, which again, this isn't a good outcome. This is not good at all. I don't want to
00:06:06.280see that. This is damaging. We're not the left, guys. We don't rip stuff apart. There were some
00:06:11.700other anti-mask activists I guess in Calgary who were it was a bizarre video I don't know they're
00:06:16.240trying to force their way into a Whole Foods outlet without masks and they're screaming at
00:06:20.640security and stuff okay guys I know you're frustrated but this isn't the way we're gonna
00:06:25.340do it by the way I see somebody's uh Sarah's been posting links in the comment section to the
00:06:30.360angry Albertan I think probably that's the video uh he had a uh Dr. Moldry and another doctor on
00:06:36.900this live this morning they were talking about the the COVID uh lockdowns and impacts from a
00:06:41.500doctor's point of view those are the ones also that were on with Danielle
00:06:45.220Smith when she had a series of specials here with the Western Standard talking
00:06:49.080about those things and they give a great common-sense point of view and I did
00:06:53.000catch a little bit of that live show one of the things the doctor brought up
00:06:56.740with the Great Barrington Declaration and not enough talk has been going on
00:07:00.400about that I mean people like to shut down debate and they say you're not an
00:07:04.220epidemiologist you're not an MD you can't talk about but we'll go to the
00:07:07.820bearing to declaration this came out last fall and it's signed by thousands of doctors epidemiologists
00:07:15.020these experts and they're saying that the restrictions they aren't helping i mean you're
00:07:21.420trying to bottle something that isn't working we're seeing we can look around we see the news texas is
00:07:26.620still doing just fine you know they predicted doom and gloom for them a month ago when they opened up
00:07:30.700they said we're opening up and i know they got more vaccinations than us but they didn't have
00:07:33.740more than this when they opened a month ago and all the experts were screaming they were saying
00:07:39.740texas is doing these guys are suicidal it's going to be horrible well the experts as usual
00:07:43.820again were wrong texas is doing okay hey the cobit is still rampaging to a degree down there there's
00:07:49.500still some folks dying but not nearly and it's going down it's declining it's coming towards
00:07:54.460its end we need to come towards an end so with all these protests quebec i mean again you know
00:07:59.980you know, there's one of those examples, Quebec said, far more restrictive things than us, far
00:08:04.540more, they have curfews, curfews, think about that, you are literally not allowed outside of your
00:08:08.660house, past a certain hour, it's only ever been imposed at wartime, and this isn't, this isn't
00:08:16.100like a war, guys, I mean, think of how dangerous this is, to give the government the power to lock
00:08:21.140you in your house, literally, at night, arrest you for going outside, and that's what's going on,
00:08:26.240Or what? As I said, in Alberta, 4.4 million people, one died yesterday. One. And I don't think lockdowns would have saved that person. But we're not talking about that. We've got to. So the pushbacks are coming, though. And I mean, we're seeing it. Premier Kenney's, yeah, he's having a hard time because people have had enough and they are pushing back.
00:08:47.240So I went last weekend, I put a video special up as well, by the way, to, um, uh, on our
00:08:53.740YouTube channel, cause I, I'd heard about this rodeo coming up and it's a, it's hosted
00:08:59.060by, uh, Ty Northcott and it's a family that's been in the rodeo business for generations.
00:12:01.020yeah, we have, I'm just going to show some of the headlines from the weekend with the Grace Life
00:12:06.300Church, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. It's John Carpe running that. He's been
00:12:10.980doing excellently in, you know, legally standing up for the people who are making a stand. We also
00:12:16.600saw the Whistle Stop Diner and Red Deer, by the way, and some businesses were trying to open up
00:12:21.540on the weekend in defiance of the lockdown. AHS were on them like nobody's business. They didn't
00:12:28.900weight they don't want to let things slide again and it's too bad it's getting out of control
00:12:34.180people have had enough and i i think as much as they try to quash all this they're playing whack-a-mole
00:12:38.660frustrated people are going to get up and people like john carpe thankfully and his organization
00:12:43.540are um if you want to look it up you know i think it's jccf.ca they're standing up for for uh alberton's
00:12:49.620rights on this and they're taking it to the courts and i believe the state is afraid of going to the
00:12:53.060courts because you know we saw the charges dropped against coats they didn't want to go to discovery
00:12:57.940They didn't want to see all this happen. The same thing with the Whistle Stop restaurant. You know, they threaten, they push, they corner them. But when push comes to shove in the end, they tend to back off. And that's because they don't want to actually see the scrutiny of their policies in front of a judge in detail.
00:13:14.160So here's another beauty coming up from, yeah, Stephen Gobolt.
00:13:19.420I'm sorry, I'm slaughtering the French pronunciation.
00:19:53.660So that's kind of my story, I guess, as far as that goes.
00:19:57.800I understand and I appreciate that because, again, it's just something we don't consider necessarily.
00:20:02.100And if a person is harmed or dies because of having withheld health care and health care, as you said, it's farther down the line and we've got some fantastic facilities.
00:20:11.720We've got some fantastic health experts, but access to it has always been a challenge for us.
00:20:17.460And now that we're choking it, it's dangerous.
00:20:19.940We see that with a lot of other aspects, too.
00:20:22.120I mean, people are putting off getting checked up when they get a strange lump because they're worried about going to the hospital right now.
00:20:27.480we've got uh other wings and treatment things that again are being deferred you know surgeries that
00:20:33.280are right now are are considered elective but might turn into something very acute if you put
00:20:38.400it off too much longer and and uh it's it's just all got to be considered when we put it together
00:20:43.420so we'll come back to you and i'll move on to the next person here with with charlotte so charlotte's
00:20:49.360uh i believe been laid off for the third time now you're in the hospitality industry uh this is an
00:20:55.200area that we do hear about the most because it's really just completely does get slammed in business
00:20:59.840if uh if we have restrictions come in and uh you know the people working within it the people who
00:21:06.960own those businesses i owned a pub for five years that's where my hair got so gray i aged about 15
00:21:11.440years during that period i wouldn't take one again for free but it is a workout and bless those who
00:21:17.440can who love that lifestyle and want to run it and it's important to us they provide social benefit
00:21:22.480they provide gathering they provide food and of course they provide employment to a great many
00:21:27.760people so what is your experience been charlotte well let me see okay so so really like we we
00:21:36.720locked down last year it's hard to believe it was a year now um the end of march and at that point
00:21:42.560we were locked down for i think uh three months and then we go back to work and then we went back
00:21:46.640to work for the summer about three or four months or something like that then we locked down again
00:21:51.280over christmas and then this time we went back to work for two months so the the the spaces that
00:21:57.040we're able to work like for my my case i'm a server bartender in a restaurant in the west end of
00:22:02.320edmonton um they're becoming smaller you know these little plots in between lockdowns that we
00:22:08.400can work becoming smaller and smaller and smaller and that's very alarming um like what's what's the
00:22:14.000plan there where i'm not really sure but yeah obviously it's it's really it's quite the sensation
00:22:20.320knowing that your your job is just hanging in the balance of you know what the the government has
00:22:26.560decided they're gonna do with you you know it's like they just get they can they've proven or
00:22:31.280they've done for three times they can just take it whenever they deem appropriate which is as far as
00:22:38.080i know like that's not a thing the government just taking illegally taking your job away your right
00:22:43.840to earn an income um and then you know it's okay we have ei for you and obviously that's nowhere
00:22:50.480near what i make when i go to work you know and it's just honestly it's very very very confusing
00:22:57.120it's very confusing um there have been no no large huge outbreaks in in typical dine-in settings okay
00:23:03.040nightclubs are a different issue but i don't know that's that's not my case particularly i work in
00:23:07.920a typical dine-in family restaurant setting there have been no major outbreaks as far as i know
00:23:13.840We have done everything. We have spent money. We have done everything right, everything they tell us to do so we can stay open. And that time and time again, now three times has, or I guess twice, has become, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter how much money you spend. You know, then now they're saying you need to build, you need to build an inside outside because you can't have indoor dining. In my case, specifically, we don't actually have a patio. So we don't have that option.
00:23:40.960um it's so it's just uh shut down again you know it's just it's it's completely it's completely
00:23:47.520bizarre to me it's completely bizarre situation where you just kind of sit around you're sitting
00:23:53.760duck i guess that's what it is you're sitting duck waiting for the government to tell you that
00:23:58.400your job is no longer essential and i do remember jason kenney saying in november that it's not his
00:24:04.080position to decide what job you know if you feed your family then that is essential and now we're
00:24:09.120going back to dine-in not being essential you know I would I would disagree I do think dine-in
00:24:14.920is essential you know you get to go meet out with friends you get to discuss things you get to meet
00:24:20.080people you get to talk to your different servers and I do I absolutely do believe it is an essential
00:24:25.080part of the social aspect humans are social beings and you know just the other day me and my boyfriend
00:24:31.080are like why don't we go for supper oh we can't do that you know because it's illegal it's just
00:24:34.940madness. It's just utter madness to me to wrap it up, I guess.
00:24:38.580Yeah. Well, in the arbitrary nature of it is just frustrating and maddening. I mean, it's an industry and people have to understand just how sensitive it is to it. You know, it's a narrow, narrow margin industry because you get some people to say, okay, you can do takeout and it's okay. You can do a patio patio is a tiny fraction of your business.
00:24:57.020if you have one as you said you don't and the weather doesn't always cooperate with your patio
00:25:01.580uh take out the food the reality in a restaurant you're going to make a tiny amount of money on
00:25:06.540the food most of your income's on the liquor you you've got to sell some drinks some profit
00:25:13.900as well not every restaurant is well geared for takeout if you're a steakhouse do you ever order
00:25:18.460a steak to get delivered of course not it doesn't keep well if you know if you had a pizza place or
00:25:23.580fish and chips but well you're you're fortunate you're in it sort of a kind of a good spot for
00:25:26.860delivery sort of thing well even the fish will get a little soggy but not every restaurant's well
00:25:31.660equipped to deal with that as well and as you said is you know the social aspect this is what's
00:25:37.900really crushing people and this gets back to almost like what christopher was talking about
00:25:41.980too this is health this is mental health every developed society even non-developed society on
00:25:47.500the planet it's our human nature we gather to eat we meet our neighbors we meet our friends we chat
00:25:53.180with each other we socialize it's good for us it's healthy for us and to withhold that from us
00:25:59.740for this long is harming us it's causing harm that again we're not talking about we're not
00:26:05.900measuring when we just shut these places down on a whim we're not looking at the damage perhaps
00:26:10.940that it's causing not just to the staff not just the owners but people who need to get out it's
00:26:14.780our mental health and mental health is real it's funny they talked so much about mental health
00:26:18.380prior you know you know we were getting there we were realizing how important it is because the
00:26:23.820mental health affects your physical health mental health leads if it's untreated with it with
00:26:28.140challenges can lead to addiction it can lead to suicides it can lead to depression it just
00:26:34.780and one of the healthiest things we can do is to get out and just be with other people and uh
00:26:40.300and and to work out and get and get physical so now into a business i'm going to move on to
00:26:45.260Tennille here because what grasped me with that, and there's so many businesses again being impacted
00:26:51.260right now, but Tennille's is a little different as well. I mean, there's just hundreds of types
00:26:56.140of businesses that are just getting impacted by these restrictions and lockdowns all around.
00:27:00.140So I believe you run a pet hotel, Tennille? Yes. And so the restrictions have impacted your
00:27:08.860your trade as well directly yes uh in in a much bigger way than i think people think about because
00:27:16.300um if you're not going on holidays then you're not boarding your your pets if you're not going to
00:27:22.700um sports tournaments like children's sports tournaments um then we don't get their pets
00:27:27.900for those weekends uh you know when people go on any any kind of holiday sports tournament yeah
00:27:33.500um even even recently when you couldn't even go to someone else's home so a lot of our customers
00:27:39.340have family that are in you know the surrounding areas and they'll board their dog here when they
00:27:44.140go and visit their their mother or their father in a nursing home so we haven't had uh basically
00:27:50.380next to next to no business it's been just people that that work up north primarily and uh and we
00:27:57.420don't have curbside anything to offer we don't have takeout we don't have outdoor because the
00:28:02.620the only product we sell is a service so it's um it's really impacted us in a big way i've been
00:28:09.260hearing stories and i do know of other kennels that have uh closed in saskatchewan because they
00:28:14.540just couldn't make it a whole year with um well my revenue has dropped by 90 percent and and so yes
00:28:22.460i'd rather be working than on serb is there's no doubt about that uh and um yeah and so i i don't
00:28:29.740know i i'm really struggling to understand why the people who are the most afraid of this can't
00:28:35.820stay home and be safe while the rest of us go about our business because i don't know how my
00:28:42.620running a pet hotel is going to affect them or kill their grandma because i'm sure not going to
00:28:47.420go and visit their grandma in the nursing home and if they're not well they probably shouldn't
00:28:52.380have ever gone to visit grandma in the nursing home when you're sick you know it's just uh i mean
00:28:57.020i am glad though that we have better shopping infrastructure now for people that are immune
00:29:04.060compromised uh that was something i hadn't thought about anybody who has any kind of autoimmune
00:29:09.900disease or is on chemotherapy so i mean there has been you know there has been some benefits
00:29:14.700in that respect but what a shame that we had to resort to um this type of uh crisis uh reaction
00:29:24.060in order to implement these things uh it's it's been very hurtful and in our community i've when
00:29:30.220i've had friends that have lost their jobs um and now they're getting an eviction notice i've been
00:29:36.300able to give them part-time employment to help them through until such time as they get back on
00:29:42.620their feet and they get another job uh i mean my business isn't big enough that i can hire people
00:29:47.020full-time but i've been able to help help people out in those kind of interim hardships uh i've
00:29:53.180also given to organizations like Salvation Army, the Lokahabad, the Shir Hadash, the SPCA,
00:34:54.840everybody's obeying all the rules everybody's being completely under the government's thumb
00:34:59.800and that is long-term care facilities and yet that's where 95% of Canadian COVID deaths have
00:35:06.640happened so it makes you question you know do these people really know what they're talking
00:35:11.620about are they able to implement these rules effectively are they protecting the vulnerable
00:35:17.400and why are the people who are healthy being locked down in a way that's unprecedented through0.99
00:35:25.320the rest of history we've never uh locked up how you know locked down healthy asymptomatic people
00:35:32.360before and it was never policy before uh this in past things if you remember you know i'm on the
00:35:38.460hold you have to be to remember the SARS thing but i mean we weren't you know it was wash your
00:35:44.580hands cover your cough and you know and if you have symptoms then go uh deal with the the extra
00:35:51.260measures but the rest of us we're just you know able to uh live our life and you know to to watch
00:35:59.060as the people who are actually vulnerable are the most affected and and yet under all the rules and
00:36:05.980scrutiny of the government that they're telling us the rest of us need it's hard to swallow and
00:36:11.620And, you know, it makes you question a lot of things, and in particular, their information that they're giving you and their reasoning for these extreme lockdowns.
00:36:27.720And that's especially disheartening when you're watching all of these great local businesses fall.
00:36:33.720Every time we go out, you know, we drive around, you see another sign closed or boarded up or whatever.
00:36:39.780And it's these great little businesses that make the community, you know, where they know you and you know them.
00:36:46.560And, you know, you're left with these big box stores that somehow, again, talking about ineffectiveness and weird implementation of the rules, you know, these little businesses have been shut down until they go out of business, but I can go in the big box store the whole time.
00:37:02.540So, you know, who's deciding this and why?
00:37:28.140So taping off the underwear section isn't going to stop you from going out.
00:37:32.740It's just, again, more arbitrary idiocy.
00:37:35.300um and and it's not doesn't appear to be doing anything to actually protect anybody that's the
00:37:41.840main thing where are we actually protecting people and i'll get back to charlotte here because
00:37:46.800i mean restaurants they just i i think it's just because it's visible because people could see it
00:37:51.800it's where people see each other coming together they've always been sort of targeted on this whole
00:37:56.760thing but restaurants because of that have been very responsible for the most part they they are
00:38:02.040separating people. They have sanitation at the front. They're masking them when strangers are0.64
00:38:07.020coming together. And again, we've seen breakouts from the odd restaurant, but immediately the
00:38:10.560restaurant responds by contact tracing and shutting it down. For the most part, this isn't
00:38:15.800where the heart of the infections are coming from. Yeah. I don't know where they do. Where
00:38:23.900are these infections coming from is the question. It's the long-term care facilities, right? Like
00:38:29.480This is where I'm coming from. I don't know where they come from, but where they were where the problem tends to be.
00:38:34.900But I do want to I do want to mention with a dining setting, the people that are afraid, the people that are in immunocompromised, the people that are in a position where if they did get COVID, it would be very, very dangerous for them.
00:38:45.780Those people aren't going out to eat. Let me stress that we still have very much takeout.
00:38:51.900So it's again goes like so we're locking down people that are healthy, that have every every reason to go out and eat.
00:38:58.520we don't they don't have to be locked down so we're locking down healthy to protect the people
00:39:02.200that are already staying home so it just goes that people shockingly can make judgments for
00:39:09.160themselves that suit themselves so the thing is what we're dealing with is that people are making
00:39:14.360judgments for themselves as well as people being locked down against their will so all we're really
00:39:19.800doing to answer to i guess give you my opinion on on are we really are we really um lowering the
00:39:26.120case count and stuff like i don't know if that's the case because nothing's really changing other
00:39:31.160than people being forced to do things that that go completely against what's beneficial to them
00:39:37.480it just makes absolutely no sense it's none of it is is sensical um i did have another thought
00:39:45.560that i've lost it going off of what christopher said yeah so it like we still have so much take
00:39:51.720out but the people that come in they they want to be out you know they're not concerned about
00:39:55.720that they want to talk to people so we're just we're we're keeping people situated where it's
00:40:01.960like the bottom line is we have to make our own judgments for the government to to find you to
00:40:07.880threaten you to to take away your livelihood to put you in this position and and condescending
00:40:14.280you to a point where you can't make those judgments for yourself nobody knows your situation more than
00:40:18.440you as far as the government's looking at these case numbers and looking at where these are coming
00:40:22.520for moral numbers to them they don't realize that these are people these are businesses these are
00:40:26.680jobs these are families that were just numbers to them we've lost the whole system is a system it's
00:40:33.240not it's not people anymore it's become too large it's just the whole thing is just an absolute
00:40:38.520fiasco yeah well and and people put the the negative onus on on others when we talk about
00:40:45.400restrictions and lockdowns i don't know if people have seen it before there's a great little simpsons
00:40:50.120clip there's a million great little simpsons clips yeah but there's one with lisa simpson
00:40:55.080and she's talking to homer with an analogy about this you know trying to explain to him about uh
00:41:00.920causation and and uh you know actions and she says this rock homer this rock repels tigers
00:41:07.480really how does it do so well look around do you see any tigers oh tell me the rock you know like
00:41:13.720the thing is so as soon as infections go down or anything like that as soon as we see positive
00:41:18.600numbers they keep coming out and saying well that's because of the lockdown so we can't stop
00:41:22.120restrictions because those numbers are coming down well can you prove those numbers are coming down
00:41:25.400yeah shut up and stay locked down yeah that's not good enough and again we are seeing jurisdictions
00:41:31.400putting lie to that they said the numbers would go up in texas they said they go up in mississippi
00:41:35.240they said they go up to florida they haven't california uh you know new york areas where
00:41:41.560they've kept the restrictions quebec and canada some of the strongest restrictions around
00:41:46.280and the infections are at their worst so what's going on guys we should see some very direct
00:41:50.840correlation if these restrictions are effective and they don't seem to be we're not talking about
00:41:55.720taking vulnerable people and throwing them into the infected but we've got to start looking at
00:41:59.400how much impact these restrictions are even having on the infection spread yes so another aspect of
00:42:07.080something humans like doing you know is this aside from gathering is traveling and that's where
00:42:11.720uh to neil's been been harmed with her business and trying to get going because people aren't0.67
00:42:16.280getting out hotels too we can't forget that i mean they they are getting crushed right now
00:42:21.960uh people just aren't on the move and again that has a consequence right like people want to get
00:42:27.560out they got to stretch their legs a bit they need to move around and they can do so safely but
00:42:32.280what's not happening and you gotta look downstream to all the people harmed who serve it even
00:42:36.680including dog boarding. What would you suggest, Danila, to help keep things rolling for smaller
00:42:47.960business such as your own? Well, for businesses like mine, some of my customers have realized
00:42:55.960the dilemma that this has caused financially. And I have a few customers, I have a handful of them,
00:43:02.600that if they're working a midnight shift on a weekend they'll board their dog just because
00:43:09.240it's inconvenient to look after the dog when they're working night shift and they know that
00:43:15.320this business is hurting they know that and and some of those customers really do want to make
00:43:20.280sure that that my kennel my pet hotel is still here when when we come out the other side of this
00:43:27.960and so i do have some customers that are very thoughtful and and trying to keep things um open
00:43:34.360and you know if if people even just uh i don't know we're painting their house or cleaning up
00:43:40.760their yard if they even uh brought their pets to to their pet hotel for the weekend and they did
00:43:47.640this periodically even if they didn't need to use us and that's the problem if they don't need us
00:43:52.520most people don't use us and they don't think about it but i have had some people when they
00:43:56.600call will say oh are you still open uh you know that that obviously they are thinking about that
00:44:02.940but they aren't thinking about what most of them aren't thinking about what they could do to support
00:44:07.440the industry even if it's just people boarding their their pets every you know like not every
00:44:12.480weekend but if different customers of mine boarded every weekend uh i could have the place full on
00:44:17.760the weekends just for two days it would still help it would it would help a lot more than people
00:44:21.980realize because um right now my my business partner um it's a family-run operation and so
00:44:28.600it's my adult son he's only working 10 hours a week and i'm actually i'm working well right now
00:44:34.540i work i work 84 hours a week now but when we were busy i was working 112 hours a week now the
00:44:41.820business is only open 49 hours a week but i have a lot of work to do outside of business hours you
00:44:47.080when the customers aren't walking through the door uh there's a lot of cleanup there's baths
00:44:51.880to do for dogs and you know nails um even just clean lots of cleaning and lots of maintenance
00:44:58.040in this particular industry uh but yeah if they just supported us even just for a couple of days
00:45:03.320here a couple of days there i don't i mean it was nice when we had people going on holidays for two
00:45:08.600or three weeks at a time but even a couple of days a week would have made a big difference but most
00:45:14.920people just aren't thinking about that it's if they don't need it they don't
00:45:18.220use it and and you know I think it is true if you don't use it you lose it
00:45:22.880there's there's there's been places that have already shut down because you just
00:45:26.380can't afford to survive on fresh air and scenery it doesn't pay the bills you
00:45:32.040know so yeah if if people just boarded their their pets on the weekend even if
00:45:37.000they don't need these places just to help keep us open so that we can pay
00:45:42.340some of the basic bills uh I've been working for the whole year for free because that's what it's
00:45:48.600taking for me to keep my place open so that my my son and like I say business partner can take what
00:45:54.160little we're earning because he has a family of six so you know that that's important uh I I had
00:46:01.360savings so I still do but I was able to draw on some of that but but my son is young he hasn't
00:46:07.640he hasn't established that kind of a financial stronghold yet in life he's just he's just not
00:46:13.640old enough to have put away all that money but yeah if people just used us on weekends that
00:46:19.320would be enough to keep most places open until we come out the other side of this and i don't know
00:46:25.240who decided that my job isn't essential because it sure is for me yeah i've said something of
00:46:32.040the sort before the people who talk about you know some businesses that are aren't essential
00:46:36.360those businesses are essential to every person who works within them and owns them uh you know
00:46:40.920don't dismiss the the interest and necessity of those those businesses and it brings a thought
00:46:46.840that i think almost everybody should do as a mental exercise is if all the restrictions were
00:46:51.880lifted tomorrow and you're going to get back to doing all the things you've been putting off for
00:46:55.160the last year for for whatever reasons and everything else think of all the businesses
00:46:59.240and services that you're going to use are they still there and will they still be there in a
00:47:04.920a month or two maybe sit and think about that for a little bit because some of
00:47:07.620them are hanging by a thread right now and you hadn't thought of them for the
00:47:10.000last year and I can't blame people I mean they've been restricted they've
00:47:12.420been locked down but think about it for a minute because that's part of what I
00:47:15.000want to get on this this show today is think about the other aspects that just
00:47:17.760didn't cross our minds I'm not blaming people for not thinking of it we can
00:47:21.000only think of so many things but a lot of suffering and consequences are
00:47:25.220happening happening that we just haven't been considering so I'll go around one
00:47:30.000more time with everybody here and I'll get back to the Christopher and thanks
00:47:33.120that comment over there yes it was the correlation is not a great causation thing i was stumbling on
00:47:37.040the words for which is an important one um something we're hearing a lot about and it ties
00:47:42.480into kind of where you're at too uh with the mental health and the physical health gyms of course have
00:47:47.680been as bad as with restaurants shut down lockdown restricted uh those are other areas where people
00:47:55.440as you said in a small household limited budget if you want a variety of areas to work on your
00:48:00.320physical health and again a good workout you feel better afterwards you know it's good for your
00:48:05.120mental health and the works um so i mean health facilities you you feel they could be done in a
00:48:10.960safe manner and open in in such a way uh sure i mean you know i think um like you've said we've
00:48:20.720kind of uh amplified the the panic and um in a lot of cases unnecessarily and you know that these
00:48:28.720businesses have done some of them have done an excellent job of making the places safe and
00:48:35.360it's just that there's no one saying okay let's take these on an individual basis and think about
00:48:41.120you know who it affects and there's it can it be done safe but they're just doing these blanket
00:48:44.560edicts um and honestly a lot of times it's just i don't know if it's government laziness or
00:48:51.840power hunger but that may be a combination of both but it's easier for them to just say you
00:48:56.080You know, I think you're just everybody shut and we can't, you know, exceptions are too much work and whatever.
00:49:01.860But I think, you know, by not doing that, we're in a situation we're here to discuss today where a lot of things falling through the cracks.
00:49:12.900In my case, to give an example, without the availability of the rehab center and the equipment there, the only option I've had is to walk.
00:49:23.880and so that was I was very lucky in that December was a very mild winter month and I was able to
00:49:32.100walk through December but we got into that cold spell in January and I literally can't go out in
00:49:40.080some of the lower temperatures you know it'll it'll cost me to have a heart attack when it's
00:49:46.640so cold it can you know it causes a problem anyway and we were in the you know minus 20 was the warm
00:49:52.780days in that stretch we had there we were down as far as minus 40 i think at one day one day and i
00:49:57.980i there's nothing i could do for three four weeks really um safely and that's the time i would have
00:50:05.340really been able to use um you know a uh a workout facility or you know whatever and even even a pool
00:50:14.220it's like you know close pools i mean a pool is literally a big bucket of chlorine you know
00:50:20.780The the best antiseptic there is and yet, you know can't go in the pool
00:50:24.080You know, you can make the entry and exit area safe
00:50:27.480You can have you know, whatever places for people to take a mask as they get out of the pool or whatever
00:50:32.700I mean, you know, we've got smart people out there put them to work solve that problem and get the get the pools going get something going and
00:50:40.800You know, we're we're we're killing people and in the case and I'm not gonna say myself, but people in this situation like me
00:50:48.900um who aren't able to do you know medical appointments or their rehab or whatever it is
00:50:54.840i guarantee there are literally people dying because of these restrictions and i could be
00:51:02.380one of them and that that's what occurred to me even before you posted about this but you know
00:51:08.420when you were asking about people who are affected by this i thought yeah i mean this could in theory
00:51:13.940literally kill me or cause me to die x years younger than i would have if i'd had this and
00:51:22.580you know that's awful i mean i think about my wife you know and and what what that would do to her
00:51:30.420and uh it's hard yeah well absolutely and then we've we've become so hyper focused on one aspect
00:51:39.620of you know trying to stop preventable deaths absolutely fine and with covid but we're forgetting
00:51:44.740that the the efforts to do it are causing again not potentially causing they are causing other
00:51:51.140preventable deaths and we aren't talking about those we aren't looking at those again let's look
00:51:57.220at that cost benefit and and it's being missed and it's put people like you at risk i i and again i
00:52:03.700really appreciate you coming out to speak of it though because we you know there's so many every
00:52:08.100person every family every individual has a different circumstance some people are getting
00:52:12.020through this just fine some people are fine living in isolation some people are lucky enough to have
00:52:16.900been healthy enough that it doesn't matter or they have a home gym but those are a minority i mean
00:52:21.540these these uh restrictions are impacting everybody and in all sorts of ways that we're not hearing
00:52:27.940about we're not talking about and uh again i just can't uh express enough appreciation that you came
00:52:34.500on to share that with us today because it's personal i mean this is your health uh you're
00:52:38.980talking about but i i want it to be personal i want people to see see a face these are real
00:52:43.620people you know i mean i know as some uh the occasional ucp mla still talk to me they watch
00:52:49.300this stuff it's these are the people that get impacted when you've done your zoom meeting and
00:52:54.660you've decided to bring in further restrictions they're really there and it really does things
00:52:59.860to them and it really can kill them even if inadvertently i mean an inadvertent death is
00:53:04.420just as dead as one that's on purpose so let's look at the whole picture here so i i'll move on
00:53:12.020and is there anything else you'd like to say before i move on to uh charlotte here i just
00:53:16.420quickly you talked about cost benefit analysis and one thing that i see that doesn't seem to be
00:53:21.060considered in that is the vast majority of the covid deaths and i've been looking at the
00:53:25.540government's own statistics because i don't have anything else to do these days but sit around and
00:53:29.220be a the number crunching geek that i am um is most of these deaths the vast majority have two
00:53:36.100three or more comorbidities so you know it's easy to to sort out who needs protected and who doesn't
00:53:43.860and you know we're not doing it and we're doing it and we're not doing it to the cost of
00:53:48.340the general population and and i really feel like we're doing more harm than good
00:53:52.660yes absolutely doing this and for getting the the word out that it is affecting ordinary people in
00:54:01.300ways we didn't take into account absolutely and i mean it's um you know in putting out those
00:54:08.260comorbidities in in a sense we've been fortunate if you would want to call it that if we're gonna
00:54:13.060have a pandemic this one seems to really almost exclusively focus on the people who are already
00:54:18.740kind of got one foot out the door i'm not trying to be cold about it but that's the reality and
00:54:23.300i'll give a bit of an analogy though like i used to work a lot internationally and work in the
00:54:27.220eastern states and i i got a thing for cemeteries i always love them i just like walking around them
00:54:31.380they're peaceful i tour them i i read the stones my wife jane's the same way we had our wedding
00:54:35.860pictures taken in one call it morbid or whatever you like but what they are is they're pieces of
00:54:39.940history and what i would see in the eastern states which was very big in the older areas are family
00:54:44.820plots and you would find whole zones though of 1917 1918 of entire families wiped out you would
00:54:51.860see over the course of four months all of these children and younger people the spanish flu
00:54:56.900because people compare that to this today there was nothing like this it killed everybody in
00:55:02.420fact if you look it up and you want to look that up it killed the young and actually spared quite
00:55:06.740a few of the older people totally different than what we've got going on right now and if you're
00:55:11.620going to choose something that's going to sweep through i would kind of rather it was going to
00:55:15.940hit those who were you know we want to protect those vulnerable but it's not wiping out children
00:55:21.060and and the people who have decades and decades ahead of them and you know just to add a little
00:55:26.020more quickly i've got a grandmother who's 101 years old she's in a care center in calgary doing
00:55:31.860great she's pretty close to deaf and blind but her mind's all there but her final year or i don't
00:55:37.460I don't know if it's her final year, but I doubt she's got a decade left in her.0.98
00:55:49.880And she would risk, she would take the chance, you know, to let the great-grandchildren and the grandchildren in face-to-face just one more time.
01:35:56.280And it actually erodes our competitiveness on an international level.
01:35:59.840When you think about the huge tax increases that Calgary has become known for,
01:36:04.080unless you have an in with the people who are deciding the grants or the politicians,
01:36:08.800you get the same egregious tax rate as anybody else.
01:36:11.960And it just doesn't instill business confidence.
01:36:14.840So I believe I was the only councillor to vote against that slush fund approach.
01:36:18.640If we have these huge surpluses and these reserves, it should be offered back to all taxpayers as tax relief so that existing businesses can not just survive, but also thrive and grow.
01:36:30.900So this current approach, it's obviously failed and government and politicians, we are terrible, terrible at picking winners and losers in private business.
01:36:39.480Frankly, our business should be getting out of the way of business so that people who want to take a risk in our city can can do so as long as they're able to reap the rewards.
01:36:49.520So my view for how this should go forward with is reasonable, fair, predictable, and low taxes for everybody, regardless of whether you're a resident or a business owner.
01:37:02.580You should be able to rely on fair treatment from council rather than necessarily your access to a certain development agency.
01:37:10.580But we're going to have to make some hard choices to be able to get our budget under control and our taxes under control.
01:37:16.000Yeah, well, I remember I was owning a pub and my pub, well, you've been to it actually. It was in
01:37:21.280a bit of a strip mall and it had some empty spaces. I mean, the best analogy I could put out for how
01:37:25.840insulting it was to business owners and is when they do this is if my landlord said, you know
01:37:30.160what, I'm going to raise your rent by 30% and I'm going to cut the rent on the vacant one down from
01:37:35.840you to half of what it normally is to draw in another restaurant because I want to develop
01:37:40.320the area further. So I want you to take a hit on your already marginal business so I can reach out
01:37:45.920and try and draw a new one in who's going to compete with you like that's essentially what
01:37:50.000they've done i mean the businesses right now all they wanted was a break i mean the only time in
01:37:53.680my life i'd seen it was business owners came out that was it two years ago and actually rallied at
01:37:58.480city hall begging to to reduce that tax burden that's just crushing them with you know triple
01:38:04.800digit tax increases but getting to that if you're going plus these businesses are savvy too right
01:38:10.240Corey, they like any customer or consumer individual, you may sign up for that free trial.
01:38:16.000And once the special rate is down, you're going to go somewhere else. You might as well work on
01:38:21.440retaining your existing customers, which is our existing taxpayers. How do we ensure that they
01:38:27.600have the predictability and the low taxes to be able to survive rather than just betting the farm
01:38:32.720on some magic bullet, somebody outside to come and save us. But that's been the mentality.
01:38:37.440it's been trying to go all in on Amazon to come and save us, go all in on the Olympics to come
01:38:42.720and save us. When the solution and when our best asset is existing Calgarians who are here,
01:38:49.040who believe in our city and are working every day to try to make ends meet, what can we do to be
01:38:53.280able to serve them? Because they're here already and they want to grow their business. And how do
01:38:58.480we make that happen? Yeah, well, a thriving business environment with a favorable climate
01:39:04.480towards businesses is what would draw others in. I mean, they're going to look around and say,
01:39:07.760yeah, that's a place I'd like to set up shop. But as you know, yeah, they're not fools. They
01:39:12.000realize, okay, I'm the shiny new thing. They'll get the grant and move in, but they're going to
01:39:15.600turn their eyes onto the next shiny new thing once I'm established and I'm just in the same boat as
01:39:19.520the rest of them. So, I mean, we got to look a little bigger, but as you said, the taxes are
01:39:25.200high, but that means we've got to cut spending somewhere. Where can the city cut? Where can
01:39:30.480these efficiencies be found? I mean, we always say it all the time, but it is easier said than done.
01:39:36.480Where can we reduce spending, especially when we're coming into such tight times for everybody?
01:39:41.920Well, it's two pieces to that. The first is on the capital budget, which is the infrastructure,
01:39:46.720everything that the city builds. We need to make sure we have a rock solid understanding
01:39:51.440of what it's going to cost to be able to maintain that infrastructure going forward.
01:39:54.960I remember one of my first days as a councillor, we were given a big sheet and a list of capital
01:40:00.000projects bus improvements things like that and i asked where where was the second piece of paper
01:40:04.960which and they said well what do you mean and i said well surely we've costed out what it's going
01:40:09.440to cost in our operating potential to impact every single calgarian taxpayer as well as the operating
01:40:24.880budget going forward just flicking the lights on to be able to maintain the this new system
01:40:31.760is going to be a huge tax increase on every single calgarian just to operate the thing
01:40:36.080so we were always talking about one side of the ledger the capital without the the sense of what
01:40:41.120it's going to actually cost to keep the lights on so that's the first piece and the second piece is
01:40:45.840around salaries wages benefits and overtime this is a tricky topic for any politician to touch on
01:40:51.840and I can see why most councillors are reluctant. But in recent years, I believe rough numbers from
01:40:59.040about 2010 when this mayor was elected to today, the salaries, wages, benefits and overtime,
01:41:04.800it's gone from about 42% of the city's overall budget to about 55% or 56%, which is a huge
01:41:12.800increase. We're seeing even just from 2015 that the city pays on a yearly basis more than $200
01:41:20.160million dollars per year as a result solely from salary increases not from service increases not
01:41:26.640from other projects or services but purely from pay raises is 200 million dollars per year and
01:41:34.320even during covid it was 30 million about 30 million per year that was added to the city's
01:41:40.320budget from pay raises during the pandemic during the lockdown when there were huge tax increases
01:41:46.880people bleeding jobs businesses closing so I would say that one of the biggest pieces has to
01:41:52.480be holding the line on salaries making sure that and as a councillor I've been willing to lead by
01:41:58.080example I turned down the the generous golden pension that's available to city councillors
01:42:02.720it's not that I'm opposed to retirement benefits but I think that we need to be taking a look at
01:42:07.680some of the reforms in the private sector around say defined contribution models
01:42:11.520so those are probably the two biggest pieces in terms of where the money is going to
01:42:15.920ill-advised capital projects and salary increases. We can't afford say the three or four percent
01:42:22.880increases that unions have asked for us in the past year. And frankly, it's going to take
01:42:28.480political courage from our new mayor and our new council to be able to say, given everything that's
01:42:32.960happening in the economy, taxpayers can't afford it. Well, and with those important talks coming
01:42:38.880and those difficult times coming, I'll finish off with asking about something that's been a
01:42:44.000a pet subject of yours and it's been a deficit in city hall and that's transparency as you'd
01:42:49.540labeled it the chamber of secrets where council on it just seemed to darn near everything will
01:42:55.340go into hiding and in my view there's only a handful of issues I mean there's a need for
01:42:59.060going in camera now and then but for the most part I mean so our last mayoral candidate you
01:43:04.000know who won campaigned very much on transparency and turned out to be quite the opposite can we be
01:43:10.680assured that you would i'm pretty confident just with the amount of noise you've made already but
01:43:14.360still what would you do to make sure that we can maintain an eye on city council and what you guys
01:43:18.900are up to what you're doing i think it's a fair question and i think i have what no other candidate
01:43:24.400does in this mayor's race it's credibility not just the talk you actually see my record over
01:43:30.940the past three three and a half years and you know how i've advocated on behalf of my constituents
01:43:35.960How I've not just talked the talk, but walked the walk in terms of turning down the pension at great personal and political expense, advocating for my constituents every single day and pushing on serious issues and occasionally actually getting kicked out of city council as a result of it.
01:43:54.760So more than just talk, you actually see the record.
01:43:57.940And one of my major commitments was to hold regular town hall meetings where once a month, anybody and everybody could come and meet with me in a community center or something like that, where they can ask me questions directly and I could hold myself accountable.
01:44:12.040And since being elected, I've conducted upwards of 50 of those meetings, continuing them online and and live through Facebook and so on.
01:44:19.660But I want to go back to one of the reasons I ran for council is I invented this program called the Council Tracker, and it was a simple and easy to use website where anybody could see how their councillor voted on important issues like spending or the police budget or bike lanes, things like that.
01:44:36.740And you could actually see how much time council spent in these secret meetings. And it's pretty egregious. It's upwards of a quarter or more of council's time spent in these secret meetings.
01:44:47.900and like you said it's just the it's very specific topics maybe around legal or land sales
01:44:55.020identifiable personnel or maybe security concerns that should be kept confidential but there should
01:45:00.860be very clear bounds around that and in the coming months i'm going to be advocating again for some
01:45:07.500of the policies that council chose not to go with such as say an open meetings bylaw where any member
01:45:13.820the public just like in Ontario can have an independent authority to go to to be able to
01:45:18.620challenge council secret meetings and if they're reviewed and found to be done improperly those
01:45:23.900records can be released to the public and some of that is also let's say a little bit more low tech
01:45:30.060so in the council chamber of secrets not everybody knows this but every single council member gets a
01:45:35.500lazy boy chair that goes all the way back so I would say replace those chairs with something a
01:45:40.620little less comfortable and uh it's a good reminder that uh every every city councilor
01:45:45.740works for calgarians and not the other way around yeah well it's those little things there's no sense
01:45:51.580settling in for a long meeting you'll want to minimize the the requisite time to uh do what
01:45:56.940you have to do in camera and then get back out to perhaps i might get in trouble for mentioning the
01:46:01.420the lazy boys but move the lazy boys into the main council chambers and we can see you're
01:46:07.820utilizing them but we know you're going to be comfortable in your spots to get down to the
01:46:11.100business in front of uh the electorate uh i'll give them for the people the the people who they
01:46:15.340are watching our 12-hour meetings there we go uh for all of you guys whether counselors i agree with
01:46:21.340or don't i the endurance you have to deal with some of those long meetings i i can't imagine
01:46:27.020but uh well thank you very much for giving me that much time today i know like i said it's a
01:46:31.260busy time councils the hornet's nest that it always is and you're juggling that with your
01:46:36.140mayoral campaign so where can we uh keep up with you or where can folks get in touch with you and
01:46:42.700see how your campaign's going yeah so it's just uh www.jeromy.ca bunch of different uh links there
01:46:52.540you can see more about me my proposed platform policies if you like what you see you can contact
01:46:57.900us to learn more happy to follow up with anybody directly but also we rely on grassroots support
01:47:04.380we're definitely not supported by the establishment or some of the typical big players in calgary
01:47:08.780politics and if we are successful in the october election it's going to be because of
01:47:13.740everyday volunteers that have had enough with the current direction and they'd like to see
01:47:18.860the city embrace a positive change going forward great well thanks um i appreciate it keep fighting
01:47:26.540the good fight there uh the amount of abuse you've taken and still keep getting up has been something
01:47:31.500else. And I just, I just like that kind of attitude with people who won't back down.
01:47:37.580So I'm certain we'll be talking again sometime soon. I'll let you get on with your day and get
01:47:42.620ready for the weekend. I know you tend to go off to some pretty nice mountain spots and get your,
01:47:48.140your clear, your mind and body on the weekend. So you can get ready to battle again through the week.
01:47:53.500So thank you one more time, Jeremy, and we will talk again.
01:48:01.500All right. Well, thank you for your patience with my technical challenges there. We'll
01:48:14.900get better with our recorded interviews. It's just hard to always get somebody to be able
01:48:18.340to come on live. So I thought I'd try recording it, playing it through because it is acute
01:48:23.120and municipal politics are coming up more now that the incumbent Mayor Nanshee has decided
01:48:29.180step down and you know something i was looking at so it's been breaking just for a great example how
01:48:33.340screwed up calgary city hall is and it's screwed up and and the waste that goes on there so this
01:48:39.260story is just broken today a city of calgary employee last year uh between june and october
01:48:46.460so in the middle of the pandemic she charged ninety four thousand dollars and eight hundred
01:48:52.060ninety four thousand eight hundred eighteen dollars in overtime seven hundred and fourteen0.61
01:48:57.020hours of overtime between June and October apparently and she fired three other workers1.00
01:49:03.740in that office saying there wasn't enough work for them because the pandemic and since then
01:49:09.980she's gone on sick leave so she's home on a vacation with this is what's going on with
01:49:18.220Calgary City Hall. I understand not every city worker is pulling off crap like that, but when
01:49:25.020you hear Nietzsche getting up there and some of the others saying, there's just no more room to
01:49:28.060cut spending. We can't get any more efficient. Oh, spare me that bull crap. Look at that. She
01:49:32.620took more in overtime in a few months than most people make in a year. And then sitting at home1.00
01:49:37.740in full pay on sick leave because they got a repugnant sick leave policy for some of these
01:49:41.820civil servants. There is room to cut and we're going to have to cut. I mean, post pandemic,
01:49:47.340something a lot of government workers as they're spending like crazy and bureaucrats and leaders
01:49:51.020and politicians don't want to talk about but they're going to have to go head to head with
01:49:55.740those public service unions because one of the things jeremy did say in that interview he didn't
01:50:00.140go right after them because again they don't want to get into that battle but it's a battle that's
01:50:03.900going to have to happen wages are going to have to cut that's the largest part of government
01:50:09.740expenditures and we can't afford it so you're going to cut the wages or we're going to cut
01:50:13.020the people it's up to the unions you know you got to put that choice on their lap and say fine you
01:50:16.860talk to your membership. We're going to lay off 20% of them or we're going to cut your wages by
01:50:20.90020%, but there's your choices because we're too bloated. We don't have the money. We're
01:50:26.880recovering from the restrictions and this pandemic mess and nightmare. So it's time to get it in
01:50:32.680order. I hope to see some leadership. When we see the leadership on every front level of
01:50:36.820government right now, I am not very confident to see them do those necessary battles and make
01:50:41.600those tough choices in the future. But hopefully, you know, we can keep pressuring and keep pushing.
01:50:46.240Got a federal election coming up this year. I can't say I've got a lot of hope for that either.
01:50:51.860By the way, I forget what time it is coming out. There is a rally, I guess, at the Edmonton
01:50:56.260legislature today. Some people are going to be pushing back against the restrictions. And
01:51:01.100hopefully that's a good turnout and peaceful and rational. And they won't be talking about
01:51:05.580lizard people and crazy things, as I've seen at other rallies. I think more, you know, just
01:51:11.160concerned citizens are starting to come out. They're finally having enough. As I said,
01:51:15.120these rolling restrictions, these crushing restrictions, this misery that just seems to
01:51:20.560be interminable. They've had enough. And again, I just want to remind you, there is a rodeo at the
01:51:25.860end of the month. This will be a fun way to push back. You know, Alberta Health Services is already
01:51:29.100warning Ty. They're saying, we're going to shut you down. And Ty's saying, good luck. He's got
01:51:35.280backup plans. If they shut down the first venue, there'll be another one. It's going to be in
01:51:39.180Bowdoin or Bowdoin area right near there, either way. At the end of the month, three solid days.
01:51:44.100it'll be fun get out bring the kids there's camping or you can just do a day trip it's only
01:51:48.500an hour out of calgary and it's uh with rodeo.rally at gmail.com or if you look on facebook
01:51:55.180there's um uh it's northcott rodeos incorporated so you can keep up with what's going on there
01:52:01.160i would just love to see a couple thousand people a few thousand whatever it takes
01:52:05.160get out there for a day it'll be a nice day at the end of april and get out for a couple of days
01:52:09.260He's got a whole bunch of events, take in something as Western and pure as Alberta rodeo, socialize, get around people, be happy, live normal a little bit again.
01:52:18.860And I just dare, just dare the government to try and stop it.
01:53:24.580Kalen's suing CBC, I believe, and the Toronto Star good on her.0.78
01:53:27.860And I hope she wins and bleeds those parasites dry.0.96
01:53:31.400They ruined her on a shaky basis after some sick stalker took an interest in her.0.99
01:53:37.480And she's not taking it lying down. So follow that with Dave Naylor and the rest of the folks putting the stories up. Subscribe. It keeps us rolling. Subscribe to the YouTube, subscribe to the Facebook. I'll be back again on Friday for my show.
01:53:52.620i'll have a couple of guests to speak on again then tomorrow we've got the the show with nathan
01:53:57.660uh i don't know how to pronounce his name guide guide and he's out of priss george great young
01:54:03.100guy he's had some good guests i think he's gonna have uh sloan coming on there as one guest and
01:54:08.460another i should write notes down for these things but he's he's really great to listen to
01:54:12.460and it's broadening our reach into bc there uh and covering different issues so be sure to turn into
01:54:17.900that live tomorrow get your questions into nathan we don't need to listen to the old talk radio
01:54:21.900anymore we've got something else it's developing it's replacing it we can talk with each other
01:54:26.760we're not afraid of touching the sticky issues so thanks for tuning in and i will see you guys on