The Cory Morgan Show - Faux Protests with Dr. Vipond, Melissa Mbarki on Resource Development
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now getting on to other causes and BS and bad media and poor coverage
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I'm going to start in on the faux protests that have been going on for the last five six days now
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due to Jason Kenney Premier Kenney announcing that basically COVID is going to become endemic
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you know Dr. Hinshaw came out she said look we've gone as far as we're going to go this is here to stay
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we've brought it under control our health systems aren't being overwhelmed we've got to start
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working on how to live with this disease going around now rather than an active battle rather
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than shutting businesses down rather than forcing quarantining and testing and things and whether
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you agree with it or not I mean the numbers are good they're good it's into August now you know
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these same people who are lighting up their hair on fire and protesting every day were the same one
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screaming a month ago saying when we took our masks off that the world was going to end well it didn't
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deaths or there hasn't been a death in Alberta from COVID in over five days at the point of this
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broadcast right now you know what a 4.6 million people this is not a catastrophe this is doing
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really really well sure some cases are going up but you know what the truth is they're like the flu
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at this point they aren't killing people and that's kind of what matters isn't it but it's not
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enough for the crazed union crowd and that's what this is and that's what I want to go on about
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so Dr Joe Vipond Joseph Vipond you see his name he pops up in front of the news he's second only
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to the head and inchie for stuffing his face in front of a camera whenever he can find one to
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blather his point of view he wanted to turn his own daughter if you research the guy look him up
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Joseph Vipond into a little Greta Thunberg he was he was chasing her around there trying to get
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photo ops with Thunberg when she was out visiting here he's heavy into the environmental issues he's
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heavy into political activism and he's also a heavy duty NDP donor actually if you go to
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CoryMorgan.com you'll see I've got those pulled up he donates thousands to the NDP every year and hey
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he's a citizen he has every right to do that of course he does but let's not pretend this is some
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unbiased doctor it's like I talked about before this is not a doctor who happens to be an activist
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this is an activist who happens to be a doctor yet the media goes to him all the time as if this guy
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is the authority to speak to on COVID and I mean he knows his medicine to a degree but you got to
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remember and temper it with his political agenda and it is an agenda he wants I mean so what he's
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called for outright called for is a general strike he wants the whole province to go on strike he's
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demanding the resignation of Kenny he's demanding the resignation of Dr. Hinshaw he's demanding the
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resignation of the health minister and he's saying he wants to have everybody come out on a giant
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general illegal strike and bring the province to its knees and force that because he doesn't want
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to wait a year and a half for an election democracy has never really been a big priority for socialists
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though and Dr. Vipond has demonstrated that in spades so what we saw though so I went out in person
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to his kickoff you know there's going to be protests every day till the government's brought
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to its knees and I tell you they've been pretty sad but I went in person because there are only a few
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blocks from the Western Standard Office and I checked it out let's see is this going to be the seeds of
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this general strike is he gonna bring the province to his knees what I saw was political theater at
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its most gross you know and and I took a lot of pictures I put a video rant out there I mean so I
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mean for starters Vipond's wearing his scrubs the doctor's wearing his scrubs you didn't come right
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out of the hospital this is for show I mean if anything if you did come out of the hospital I mean
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aren't these contaminated shouldn't they go into a special laundry but of course you want to look good
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you want to look like the tired doctor in front of the cameras you're downtown Calgary come on I'm
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surprised he didn't have a stethoscope around his neck while he was at a little gurney back there
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that he could pretend to do CPR upon but the media just lapped this up so he set up in a low spot you
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know in the park this low spot down there it's outside the courthouse at the McDougal Center and it
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was really neat and you can see in the pictures then the cameras all set around there must have been 30 or
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40 media members every possible mainstream media I was out layer out there CBC French the works and
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that way being down low with all the cameras around them and all the microphones in front of them all of
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40 or 50 protesters 80 at tops if I want to be really generous then could stand around and really make
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this look like a big crowd so thankfully I was there to be able to actually stand back 100 feet and show no this
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is not a big crowd at all this is actually pretty damn sad despite all the pumping the hoopla and noise
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this was a small crowd within 10 minutes after a Vipon speaking that was the end of it it was over
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and the other neat thing and I got pictures of there that may may pop up was the masking you know
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and and dr. Vipon said in his tweets if you're not wearing a mask you're not welcome by the way I
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didn't wear a mask when I went down there it's our park too I can go whenever the hell I want there
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is no mask laws get over it Joe don't tell me what to do well Joe goes off to a side interview of
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course because again he got cameras he's got microphones and he does his interview two feet from a
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gentleman and he's not wearing a mask he took his mask off because you can't do good political
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theater from behind a mask I guess CBC French no less and he did demonstrate Joe speaks fantastic
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French good on you what is your ambition anyways you know we look in federal you're looking to go
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further with things want to show that you can speak French this absurdity and it's still going
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on and I listen unfortunately I torment myself we don't have western standard radio in my car yet so
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when I'm driving I listen to some other news networks and they talk about the daily protests
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you know the pro the province is still not backing down and they're still going ahead with the full
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reopening of everything on the 16th despite these daily protests these protests are nothing they're
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lame they're bugger all and I'm gonna keep going down there I'm gonna keep watching them and that's
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again yeah here's the self-serving plug if it wasn't for the western standard if it wasn't for others
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going out there taking those pictures from 100 feet back to show what a bunch of bs this was
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anybody else tuning into the evening news would think there was some giant groundswell of opposition
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to these policies I think some people are cautious on this they're not sure if it's the right move
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but obviously they weren't motivated enough to all come out on mass and actually demonstrate
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they're gonna watch and wait that's the majority of the province the vast majority of the province
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a lot of those people down there protesting were holding up teachers union signs and things like
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that this is a union group this is the term for this is astroturfing you're trying to make it look
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like there's a big public groundswell of support or opposition to something when there really isn't
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and with the part that was more stomach turning astroturfing is nothing new but was that complicit
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media down there not being critical whatsoever basically participating with him to make this look
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like something it wasn't and we've got to call that out we've got to report on that crap because we can't
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act properly as citizens if we aren't getting the right picture what's actually happening outside
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so the MSM mainstream media is letting us down yet again and they've done so so we're going to keep
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watching that they're not far from the office I don't expect this to blossom and develop into something
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especially since as the days keep going on the hospitalizations remain down and the deaths are not
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happening we'll see time will tell now I'll get on to something a little more positive I've got a great
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guest coming up her name is Melissa Embarkey she is very outspoken on Twitter you might have seen her
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on there she's with the McDonnell Laurier Institute and she speaks to indigenous and aboriginal issues
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and I'm going to have a chat with her about indigenous involvement in the energy sector conventional oil
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field gas pipeline developments things such as that because you know they're hitting the news
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and again the media portrays it as if First Nations are opposed to all development and that is tearing
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apart communities and it's anything but the truth but it's good to get some clarity from an expert like
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Melissa so let's get on with it all right so I'm joined with Melissa Embarkey of the McDonnell Laurier
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Institute for people on social media you might have seen her she's been very outspoken on Twitter
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uh policy analyst and outreach coordinator and indigenous policy so it's a a big field to cover
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in an important area that's been in the news a lot so thank you very much for coming on to talk with me
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today Melissa yeah thanks for inviting me and I I know with what you work on is again as I said a huge
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field we could probably talk for hours but what I'd kind of like to focus on today is the energy sector
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uh we've been you you've worked in the energy sector for some time we're finally seem to be coming out
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of the pandemic there's been more demand for energy we're reinvigorating our fields we're getting rolling
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but we just really want to make sure that our you know indigenous partners are taking part and
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participating as much as possible how are things looking in that front um things are looking a little
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better in terms of consultation and operators going out there and working with indigenous communities
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so that being addressed um is making huge strides in the industry I think what people need to understand
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is that indigenous people don't um oppose natural resource um development what they were opposing was the
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consultation piece that was often missed um in first nations communities so we need to be aware of what it
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is that we're asking and what it is that we are opposing and if there are people that are opposing
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certain lines um you know they have their own agenda um they don't necessarily even speak for the
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community that uh these lines are going through so I think in the future we need to start parsing out
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what the issues are and who is actually um creating these issues and for what reason because once you get
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down to that answer you'll find that the communities are actually in favor of many of these projects
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because we do see the benefit that um you know these projects bring to our communities in terms of
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workforce development in terms of small businesses like it brings a really um it brings a really big
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um you know it brings a workforce that we never would have had prior so that's the stance that most of
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us are coming from and I think we need to start listening to the voices of our chief and council
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and our elected leaders you know so yeah I worked in the oil field for a long time and in isolated
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regions and consultation and I think respect is the biggest word that gets lost I mean no community
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wants to feel like companies are coming in and shoving them out of the way or or they don't want
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participation in the token sense I think what we should be seeking is partnerships where we can mutually
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benefit I imagine and that's one of the things that we we've been asking for our community benefit
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agreements um because that encompasses everything uh from royalties to workforce to even um the areas
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of housing you know a lot of these operators have seen the deplorable housing that first nations
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communities have and they've actually stepped up and you know set aside funds for housing developments
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and for um you know renos in these communities I grew up in a first nations community so I know
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how bad these houses like I know just how um you know the living conditions can be um over
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you can have four families living in one house you know and you know anytime we get any kind of
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investment is is huge in these communities um you know when these agreements are signed these are one of
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the things that first things that we look at is housing water um social community um programs these
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are things that we put this money to and a lot of people don't realize that you know like we this money
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goes directly into the reserve whereas if you look at funding like from isc this money doesn't always
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100 make it to reserve you know like it gets channeled through um I'm gonna say contractors it gets
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funneled through think tanks before any of the money actually hits a community so operations like
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this goes directly to communities and I don't think people are seeing that and I think they do need to
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realize that projects like this do greatly impact people on reserve yeah well and like any other
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community I mean indigenous communities are going to have multiple points of view I mean we'll never have
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everything anything where everybody agrees with the program part of the difficulty that we've been having
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though is the consultation is great but we get multiple people saying they speak for the community
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and while you might want to come in and really do consult you're not sure if you're consulting with
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the right people how is that going to be resolved in the future well how it's always happened is that
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before a band or first nation signs into an agreement they have to take it back to their communities and it
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has to get voted on so the process that we go through is called the bank council request where
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they bring the project forward it's either a yes or no you agree with it or not and then the community
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community members vote on it and they say yes or no so most of the time 80 of the communities are in
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favor and the other 20 or even 10 you know those are the ones that you hear in social media those are the
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ones that are saying no we don't want this project to go through but your community just voted like
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your community just went through this democratic process to say yes and now you're coming along and
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saying no we don't want this so I think at the end of the day we need to figure out how the community
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came to this decision and we need to respect their decision as well you know it might not be a decision
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that I agreed with but at the same time if 80 percent of the people said yes I go with it you know regardless
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if it was something that I agreed to or not and I think a lot of people they latch on to the ones
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that say no and say oh look at this is what's going on when in actuality it's not yeah well in
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particularly with the coastal gas link for example there was hereditary chiefs who were respected and
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members of the community who were outspoken against the program though all of the elected members had
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been in favor uh it's just difficult I guess and confusing to people outside of the community to know
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what's going on there sometimes well with the head of hereditary system that's not uh something that
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we see across Canada that's not something that you find in communities in Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba
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this isn't something that's very common out there and very few northern BC communities have this
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so I think for you know we need to kind of get over that um perception that they're the ringleaders
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in our communities they do have a place in our communities and the people do need to figure out
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what that place is for them um my grandfather was a respected elder and the community went to him for
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advice but at the end of the day he wasn't the one that said yes or no to things you know like he guided
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them as best they could and it was whatever the people decided that was his stance on it so different
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communities govern themselves differently and I think the outside needs to see that and they also
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need to realize that the hereditary system isn't for everyone and um it might be prevalent in some
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communities but it's not for all and that's not a system that I'm very familiar with um but just from
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what I see from the outside you know they need to get a community involvement um if their elected chief
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chief and council got the community to say yes and they're saying no they need to find a way to bridge
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that gap and they need to find a way to work with their people yeah so I mean a lot of it's just well
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any community has their internal uh discussions and means and it's not always a non-messy process that's
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just to be respected something that's kind of excited going forward though is we're seeing more
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potential for outright investment and partnerships like there's groups that are considering investing
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directly into the trans mountain pipeline and other projects have you seen much progress on on some of
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these uh indigenous groups and coalitions moving forward with these sorts of things uh we definitely
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see a lot more communities that are wanting to invest into these lines because we realize that's
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the vital piece of infrastructure and we realize that it's the safest way to transport oil and gas
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you know if you see these train derailments that have happened in the last five or so years that
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they're they're quite high in number and you know it's not the safest way to transport oil I'm not
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saying you know we need to find a balance of it we need to find a balance of real you know tracking if
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we have to but at the same time we can't rely on just one mode of transportation we need to be able
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to get our product out there by multiple sources and we need to make sure they're safe so if if people
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are having concerns with pipelines then maybe the way to go is to increase regulation and to
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say okay maybe we need modern monitoring systems every so often you know so it does detect the
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leak right away we need to be fighting for things like this and not saying no to entire projects um
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you know we need to be working with industry to figure out solutions and we're not doing that like
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we're just bottlenecking them every step of the way and that's not the right way to go
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yeah well it's a good communication inside and outside of the the indigenous communities like when
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you get up north pipeline right away your average person would cross one and wouldn't even know it
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they just think it's a cut line I mean they're not necessarily as detrimental or damaging and actually
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in some areas I know a lot of trappers use them for access to their trap lines uh they're handy for
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hunting I mean if they're well managed with erosion control and and responsibly they they won't harm
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the region very much at all not at all and a lot of times these right right of ways are they're pretty
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small like I mean the average one is 15 meters in length so they're not taking up a whole lot of
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space out there and uh you know everything from it being um constructed and you know getting the line
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in it it it follows really heavy environmental standards you know if they find a frog along the
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way you know they stop operations to make sure these frogs are relocated a lot of people don't see this
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they just see it as this this bad thing and actually if you look at the industry itself they
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follow some of the harshest regulations out there and um but that means you know we can do better
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you know we can always do better um but we definitely need to find that balance between
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having these pipelines and creating a regulatory process that you know that they that will keep the
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environment safe or safer yeah well and likewise outside of that when I worked uh on say seismic
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projects we'd be in and out of the area we would bring in monitors from the the nearest uh communities
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in the area to show us uh traditionally sensitive areas keep us away from areas where we might be doing
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damage that we're we're not uh you know fit for our sort of operations and things such as that people
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don't realize that we are making those efforts to avoid and keep the impact as low as possible and
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and keep the communities dialed in and we would hire a lot of local people when possible too
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particularly for brush clearing in that because they're familiar with the area and they're fantastic
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up there they can work in the cold as opposed some city kid we would stick out there um is there been
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much training and and working to bring people out there into operations and into active work on on
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the projects as they go i think going forward uh this is definitely something the operators can think
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about like how are they going to utilize first nations communities in their workforce how are they
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going to you know help startup businesses small businesses um you know these are things that we
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want to be part of and i think the conversation is going to go towards that direction versus you know
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saying no to any sort of project i think if companies can bring these communities on board right from the
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get-go so that they can actually see what goes on with these projects like they can look at the
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environmental assessments that happened prior to anything being constructed they can follow along with the
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regulatory process they can follow along with the construction process and then when it goes live
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you know community members need to see projects from start to finish and sometimes what we're seeing
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is that we're only brought in on the construction phase of it without ever seeing the regulatory
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approval part of it which could take years if not decades so i think operators definitely need to be
00:24:34.100
they need to bring these communities on faster quicker and they need to definitely have them being
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partly you know need to include them as part of that process because when you see how long a project
00:24:44.500
takes when you have this person saying no at the end it you know you can counter some of their arguments
00:24:51.940
and you could say well you're saying no to something that happened you know five years ago and we
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you know we remediated that situation or we came up with this solution so it actually helps community
00:25:04.020
community members come up with solutions rather than problems along the way yeah well and it was
00:25:10.020
very important for us when we would bring monitors in and and do this they knew it wasn't tokenism we
00:25:15.060
were we want to bring local community members out we're going to see things that i don't know as a
00:25:18.740
contractor who's coming up and they can go back to the community and say yes we communicated that we
00:25:24.500
we approve of this we know what's going on up there we know what's going to happen and we've avoided
00:25:29.860
uh difficulties i i think the old ways often used to be just to try and cut a check to somebody make
00:25:34.500
it quiet and just plow on through it but it's not like that at all anymore no and it shouldn't be
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and i think this is where our voices are starting to be heard and um as i've said before you know
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we're not saying no to development we're just saying we're saying no to the console
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and you need to have a be part of those projects and it's not just in a token way like people
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genuinely genuinely learn um going through this process um if i hadn't gone through this with my
00:26:07.540
own community i wouldn't have known what had happened from start to finish um and then it later
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influenced my decision and you know becoming involved in oil and gas so you know there's a lot
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of key learnings out there and i think if we can include first nations um in these learnings then
00:26:27.060
they then we can all become part of the solution as opposed to creating problems in the future
00:26:33.460
yeah no that's great so what have you been working on lately with the mclaurray institute institute what
00:26:39.060
can we look forward to uh you releasing or speaking to in coming days um right now the hot topic is
00:26:45.300
residential school and i think with the search for unmarked grave um you know it's going to be in
00:26:51.620
in the media or you know it's going to be in the spotlight for quite some time um but we do address
00:26:57.380
different issues uh especially when it comes to fisheries you know that's also going to be an
00:27:01.460
ongoing issue um natural resource projects pipelines you know as as things start to um get
00:27:08.500
underway in our economy and you know things start moving a little bit faster you'll start to see
00:27:14.420
these issues arise again so we're just kind of addressing the you know current um the current
00:27:20.260
issues and then just going from there so it could be anything fisheries it could be pipelines uh you
00:27:26.180
just never know yeah well and the residential school discoveries i mean i've been just horrifying
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for everybody and kind of drove home what we all are always knew we just really had it brought into
00:27:37.860
our faces and hopefully some productive ends come from this in the in the long run it certainly
00:27:42.420
made everybody much more sensitive and and uh difficult these days exactly um i think it just
00:27:48.660
brought more awareness out there like you said you kind of always knew this was out there but
00:27:53.540
people may not have known about the unmarked race and it just you know it just sheds lights on
00:27:58.980
or sheds a light on the indigenous issues that are out there um which are which encompasses
00:28:05.220
everything so we just never know what's going to be thrown into front and center uh so yeah we just
00:28:12.740
take it day by day and we just deal with it as it comes well great well where can people go to find
00:28:18.740
more information on what you've been working on and what's going to be coming up um usually a lot of
00:28:24.660
the op-eds and webinars are on the mcdonald laurier site so people can visit that and see what you
00:28:30.740
know the current topics are um twitter is usually a pretty good feed uh for all the current issues
00:28:36.740
and uh my stance on different indigenous issues um and yeah just i think twitter is probably the
00:28:43.460
best place but mcdonald mcdonald laurier institute is definitely another really good reason
00:28:48.740
yeah well twitter is good for that one-on-one engagement uh maybe even a little bit of scrapping
00:28:52.900
sometimes but the the deeper reads uh the mcdonald laurier institute i imagine would provide that
00:28:58.580
exactly great well thank you very much for joining me today i i appreciate the update and what you're
00:29:04.340
up to and i'd just like to hear some voices of optimism and cooperation you know not that black
00:29:08.500
and white this is on this is off like we really can all work together and benefit for some of the
00:29:13.780
resources we're blessed with out here in canada exactly great well i look forward to talking to you
00:29:20.180
again sometime soon yeah well thanks for having me on your show all right thanks melissa all right
00:29:26.020
well that was refreshing like i said i like having some positive policy you know discussions and talk
00:29:31.780
at times and let's talk about solutions not fighting you know the first nations aren't going away energy
00:29:37.540
demand isn't going away how can we work together how can we all benefit from this melissa is definitely
00:29:43.460
working proactively on these sorts of things and there are a lot of other people out there as well who
00:29:47.860
are we just don't always hear about them uh again getting back to my favorite target you know
00:29:52.340
the mainstream media they want to report on conflict they want to report and talk to whoever
00:29:56.580
the the most haywire opponent to a project is whether they actually speak for the people out there
00:30:02.020
or not and and uh some good rational discussions benefit us all so melissa's doing great work at
00:30:08.180
the mcdonald laurier institute and we're making progress with development as she said we've got
00:30:13.860
other challenges with fisheries and resource development in general mining hydroelectric
00:30:18.340
you name it we've got to get better at this rather than fighting about it all the bloody time
00:30:23.220
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