On this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, host Cory Morgan is joined by Linda Slobodian and Mark Petroni to talk about the federal election, gun control, and much more. Subscribe to the Western Standard and get 10% off your first Western Standard purchase.
00:02:30.000Morning. Welcome to the Cory Morgan Show Friday, June 25th. Yeah, it's the 25th today.
00:02:47.000Where does the time go? So I've got a good one today. I have Linda Slobodian coming on pretty0.87
00:02:53.540soon. Linda was an investigative journalist with The Sun, I believe with The Herald as well. She
00:03:00.320was with the old Western Standard and Alberta Report, and she's doing things for the Western
00:03:04.980Standard now, and she's written some fantastic columns and pieces on things she's dug into.
00:03:10.540After that, I'm going to be getting on with Clinton DeVoe and possibly Mark Petroni joining
00:03:14.740me. We'll talk some federal politics. Parliament just closed up. It's looking very likely we're
00:03:20.160going into a fall election. So you see how the picture looks before we go into summer. It's
00:03:25.620going to be a summer of unofficial campaigning. We just know that. And let's see what chances
00:03:31.360we've got to coming into a better country this fall. Personally, I don't think it looks very
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00:31:58.340If you want to do something that you don't want sticking in the minds of the voters, you know, a Friday afternoon right now would be the best time to get that out there.
00:32:06.200So it'll be interesting to watch and see what's coming there.
00:32:23.460And, you know, she's writing some great stuff.
00:32:26.660It's just we got these challenges with a live show that we still are ironing out.
00:32:30.700Yeah, I'll give you a bit of a clue as to what she's writing for tomorrow, Corey.
00:32:36.420She had a very lengthy interview yesterday with Maxime Bernier, head of the People's Party of Canada, talking about his arrest in Manitoba a week or so ago.
00:32:49.520He's actually due in court in Winnipeg very soon.
00:32:53.580And the shameful way that the RCMP treated him.
00:32:59.360It sounds like the RCMP were sent out from Winnipeg,
00:33:02.840almost acting on direct orders from the Pallister government
00:33:06.540and handcuffed Bernier and threw him in the back of a police car.
00:33:14.660He was very shaken up by it and quite disgusted with the RCMP's actions.
00:33:20.980So Linda's going to have a column on that coming up shortly.0.99
00:33:25.300And I know she's very upset that they're going to buy a new computer now, just so she can get on her show.
00:33:55.100And we're seeing some terrible optics coming out of Canada.
00:33:57.280I mean, this stuff's going internationally.
00:33:58.760You know, when we're seeing political leaders put into police cars, we're seeing the American Senate now talking about how Alberta arrests pastors.
00:34:07.380I mean, this is some pretty heavy-duty stuff.
00:34:10.380We seem to be getting better coverage in the States than we are in Canada on some of it.
00:34:24.360Anyways, he sent off a letter to the Senate's Religious Awareness Committee asking for a candidate to be put on a religious watch list.
00:34:34.420And he specifically cites the cases of Alberta pastors being arrested and thrown in jail, including James Coates from Grace Life and Tim Stevens from the Calgary Baptist Church and Art Pawlowski from the Calgary Street Church.
00:34:53.560So what Alberta is doing is certainly getting noticed all around the world and even in the hallowed halls of the U.S. Senate.
00:35:01.820yeah what an embarrassment you know i mean we do have a a free country i mean you know it's funny
00:35:10.780i mean a lot of people like talking about how we're in a dictatorship and things i mean we've
00:35:14.060got increasing authoritarianism without doubt but for the most part we still have a lot of freedoms
00:35:19.180and everything but we can sure see how the authoritarians creep in you know incrementally
00:35:23.980i mean little by little they do these things and we kind of passively let them go i wonder if we're
00:35:28.460ever going to hit a tipping point where people aside from a small minority will actually start
00:35:32.700pushing back uh it may take a while corey as you know once the government gets the power they're
00:35:38.540very very uh uh hesitant to give them back uh and uh you know you've seen with the the slowness of
00:35:47.900the pandemic reopening uh you know some examples there so you know the nenshi mask ban continuing
00:35:53.900in uh in calgary is a good example so i think canadians have to be really on guard for for
00:36:01.580protecting their their their rights uh constitutional rights and uh you know just to make sure that
00:36:09.420governments don't take them away because if they can they will oh you forever have to be vigilant
00:36:16.060well thanks for popping in and i i went back and forth with james i think we're probably gonna get
00:36:20.140linda in on monday and it'll be interesting uh again she's never been on the show before so it's
00:36:24.860kind of one of those things you don't find out if your stuff isn't compatible with the uh format
00:36:29.100until uh uh you try it out so we'll get her on it'll it'll be uh interesting enough at the time0.91
00:36:35.740i'm sure it will be corey uh you have yourself a great weekend drinking that coffee yeah thanks
00:36:41.500steve i'll talk to you later let's see ron here says you guys are tiresome well ron don't let
00:36:48.780the door hit your virtual ass on the way out i'm sorry if i haven't hit your entertainment standard0.96
00:36:54.860for today so but comments are still welcome even the ones like that that's part of why i enjoy
00:37:00.540twitter i don't exactly go on there to have nice exchanges with everybody all the time when i'm
00:37:04.860chatting uh sometimes they can be uh tiresome um you know somebody commented uh andy said uh
00:37:11.660the minimum wage is no longer $15 in Alberta, I believe $13.50 now. I think there was something
00:37:18.680changed so that minors or certain roles could be under $15. But for the most part, I think for
00:37:25.060anybody of age and who's not a student or whatnot, it's still $15 an hour. And since it looks like
00:37:33.780we'll get Linda on Monday, I'll just kind of keep going. And by all means, if people want to comment
00:37:37.980and bring up subjects for us to keep talking about we'll keep talking for those who don't know i did
00:37:42.460own a pub for five years i sold it just before um uh the pandemic hit about you know it was it was
00:37:49.500april of last year we handed off i feel for those uh new owners they're still hanging in there in
00:37:54.460printis they're doing a great job what a year to try and run and open a pub but during the five
00:37:59.900years that my wife jane and i ran it we unfortunately also with ourselves timed it
00:38:04.220where we purchased a pub just as the NDP got in. And they started those incremental minimum wage
00:38:10.560increases that were hitting us. And you know, it's the hospitality industry that gets hit the
00:38:14.720hardest when these minimum wages increases come in. And it really hit our bottom line. You know,
00:38:21.480and I wrote a blog posting on my own site at CoreyMorgan.com a few years ago on that,
00:38:26.700because there's so much misunderstanding about how minimum wages work, how part-time jobs work,
00:38:32.100how entry-level jobs work. And of course, there's a lot of that politics of envy, politics of the
00:38:37.300left, that assumption that all these restaurant owners are rich and they're taking advantage of
00:38:43.020labor and they're stepping on the little guy and all the usual socialist chatter. And it's not true
00:38:53.100at all. And if you look, it's very out in the open. The average restaurant and bar in Canada
00:39:00.380has a profit margin of about three and a half to 5%, depending on what type of bar or restaurant
00:39:05.940you're looking at. A really good one. I think we were doing okay at 8%. But you got to sell
00:39:10.560a hell of a lot of beer and French fries and burgers to make a living at an 8% margin.
00:39:16.320And then some people say, well, just raise the prices. I'll come out and pay more to make sure
00:39:19.700you're paying. And here's their favorite one, a living wage to your employees. Well, there's a
00:39:24.920bunch of baloney going on in there. For one, you won't come out. Talk big, but you will not come
00:39:29.200out. I know that you raise those prices too high. Most people will go somewhere else. It's an
00:39:34.820extremely competitive industry. And those who will continue to come out and good on them,
00:39:40.560you know, and embrace higher prices, they still have limited budget. So sure they'll come out,
00:39:44.540but instead of coming out three times a week, they might cut it to two times a week. You can't
00:39:49.200just keep raising the prices to pay every dishwasher a living wage. You know, I mean,
00:39:55.000where it is a living wage that's where it starts getting uh you know questionable as well what's
00:40:00.360a living wage in rural alberta where you could buy a home perhaps perhaps for 150 000 versus uh
00:40:08.600you know downtown calgary where it's going to cost you half a million to get a decent spot
00:40:14.280uh in why is everybody entitled to a living wage no matter what they do i i mean they're entry
00:40:22.600level positions. They're part-time positions. They're supplemental positions. And when I moved
00:40:29.000to Calgary, minimum wage back then, I'm showing my age, but I think it was like six bucks an hour.
00:40:34.120So what did I do? I worked two jobs and I have roommates. That's the way it goes. You climb
00:40:39.240the world's scrotum pole of living. You better yourself. You make yourself more valuable in the
00:40:45.880labor market and you will make more money. It takes some time.
00:40:48.840as Rose is pointing or some other, you know, well, yeah, there's a crazy article I saw where
00:40:54.040tipping is now considered racist. Who knows where to begin with that? You know, part of what a lot
00:40:59.680of anti-tipping sort of people, there's a bit of that movement as well. And again, in that blog
00:41:05.480post, I think I'm going to do a video on that whole thing down the road because I'll break it
00:41:08.520all down. I showed the charts on it and everything. No tip models for one fail. They fail everywhere
00:41:14.520they tried. Earls in Calgary tried it. It failed. The reason that the left hates tipping, it's
00:41:20.400merit-based because the better workers make more money and they don't like that. We're supposed to
00:41:27.740be all equal. It doesn't matter how much you put in, you're all supposed to get the same amount out.
00:41:31.780Worked great in Mao's China, didn't it? Or the Soviet Union. I mean, it really is. They're all0.96
00:41:36.560symptoms of the same thing. I know it sounds like exaggeration. So I talk about the communism,
00:41:39.540But you look at those same bare principles of envy, entitlement, laziness, expecting to be compensated at the same level as everybody else, no matter how little you put in.
00:41:48.720Yeah, that's all the mindset that brings about socialism, communist states, and they always fail.
00:41:54.140And that's why things like tipping bug them.
00:41:56.760And it's kind of interesting as we get closer to a cashless society because we could really track those stats a lot.
00:42:00.620You know, because we did tip out the kitchen, by the way.
00:56:48.480It's just like with the Taxpayers Federation when they had the ticking, uh, uh,
00:56:51.960debt clock going along, you know, these optics, these, these visuals,
00:56:55.400they help get the messaging out there.
00:56:56.960So it's interesting to see what rebels up to they're stirring the pot. Uh,
00:57:00.120Shandro, you know, as a health minister, even before the pandemic was certainly getting in a
00:57:03.660lot of trouble and a lot of controversy. As the rumors are that there might be a cabinet shuffle
00:57:09.340coming up. As I was saying with Dave, you know, now's the time. Politically, when you want to do
00:57:13.580it, when you see something coming out on a Friday afternoon, it's not going to be pretty. It's
00:57:18.060something the government wants to get done quickly and get out of people's minds. So yeah, today will
00:57:21.680be the day to watch not only the UCP, but the liberal government or anybody else, even companies.
00:57:27.080You know, if you want to put out a pressure release up, you have to kind of tear off a band-aid, but you don't really want to go farther into it.
00:57:32.340Fridays and summer are your friend, particularly before a long weekend.
00:57:39.400Yes, a lot of the CDC talking about side effects and things with vaccinations.
00:57:47.580It's a tough area, you know, and that's why I wanted to hear as much as possible.
00:57:52.420I get on social media, and yeah, I like to poke at and stir up the people with the true anti-vaxxers, you know, because there's some people who just, they feel vaccinations are all a conspiracy and that they're terrible, and they will never take one under any circumstance.
00:58:06.680But, you know, they have the right to be that way, and I have the right to bug them.
00:58:12.880But when we want to have real discussions, when we want to go into things on the efficacy of treatments, vaccinations, we need to open it up.
00:58:22.180And, you know, the secretiveness, the group think, the swarming, you know, and it's not just it's interesting to watch how communication is evolving.
00:58:32.540Look at social media. Look at how when somebody speaks up, if they speak to the wrong thing, the bots on Twitter that will just come in and attack.
00:58:42.180Oh, once in a while, you can see it. I'm trying to remember what one it was.
00:58:45.880It was something I tweeted a few days ago, not one of my better ones.
00:58:48.380But obviously it triggered something because suddenly I've got all of these, you know, five follower, 10 follower, three follower accounts, all just barraging my Twitter account, attacking me on it.
00:58:57.600Like, whoa, where did you clowns come from?
00:58:59.440Well, the reality is, yeah, there's people who have bot farms and they do that.
00:59:02.480And we see that it's another form of suppression of discussion.
00:59:06.080And if you hit the wrong subject, they will trigger their little bot farms and shut things up.
00:59:14.040you know, things that they don't want to hear, they can gag it. So I'm going to take a very short
00:59:20.940break. You know, I'll put up the countdown timer there for a moment. I'm going to have, it looks
00:59:25.800like Mark Petroni coming on. I wasn't sure if Clinton was going to get him or not. It's great
00:59:29.480when he comes on there. He's from Saga 960 of Mississauga. I'm going to get Clinton on because
00:59:35.200we're coming into a summer of, well, the federal session has come to an end and there's a lot of
00:59:41.520politics to talk about, there's polling numbers to talk about, there's strategy to talk about,
00:59:45.040there's always more to talk about, and we're going to get talking. So bear with me, let me
00:59:49.680put things on for a one minute break, and we'll get back on and get on to some federal issues for a while.
01:00:41.520Okay, I'm back. That's better. I see Mark disappeared from the lobby, but I think he's
01:01:05.460having maybe some technical issues there too. I'm certain he'll be back. As Teresa's saying,
01:01:10.300she loves Mark. Yeah, Mark gets on some fantastic rants as well. And I do like getting Clinton and
01:01:16.060Mark on, you know, because you get an Ontario view, you get a Nova Scotia view, you know,
01:01:20.360we're pretty Alberta centric around here. And it's important to hear what the other parts of
01:01:25.600the country are thinking. I mean, realistically, there's a lot more love for Trudeau than we like
01:01:30.300to think. And it's personally, I think we're in for a Trudeau majority coming up. But I mean,
01:01:38.920getting those perspectives. And we've got to see what people are thinking across the country if
01:01:43.340we want to make changes or see why we can't make changes. And it's important to get those other
01:01:47.500voices out there. Claudette pointing out, yeah, wait till Trudeau's hate speech is enacted. I
01:01:53.940imagine you mean the legislation. I think it's Bill 36, if I'm not mistaken, C36. They kind of
01:02:01.700threw that out just before the end of the session. It's sort of bringing back section 13 of the
01:02:07.700Human Rights Act to criminalize speech that's considered hateful. It's a very frightening
01:02:13.160affront on free speech, actually. And it's probably not going to pass before the next
01:02:18.300election, but it shows what they're going to be campaigning on. And the platform we're going to
01:02:25.000be in for, well, those are always that way, but a very heated and odious fall election, I suspect.
01:02:30.500What do we got here? If governments don't want people to believe that vaccines are a conspiracy, they should be more transparent, open, and honest. Absolutely. And that just applies to everything. You know, if they would just quit being so stubborn and hiding from us information and trying to gag other views rather than debate them, I think people would be more inclined to believe them when things come along.
01:02:54.900so uh okay we will get on i believe everybody's just about set up here i see mark uh playing
01:03:03.040with the camera angles and clinton back there so let's pull them in here and get those cross
01:03:08.180canadian views going on hey clinton how you doing good how are you doing mark can you hear me clearly
01:03:13.200right now um i'm hearing you good i'll pull mark in there there's mark hello how are you good thanks
01:03:20.280for coming on. I always love it when Clinton can round you up to get in here and give these
01:03:25.980viewers, again, something other than my rambling points of view out there, especially on these
01:03:30.100federal issues. Because as I was saying earlier, we can be kind of introverted and Alberta-centric
01:03:34.180and we forget what's going on across the country at times. I think you should be more introspective
01:03:40.520anyway. I think you guys should be thinking more about the future of Alberta within Canada,
01:03:48.040given the possibility and perhaps even probability that we're going to have a liberal majority
01:03:53.080government but i know you want to start off with clinton this is clinton's show and your show morgan
01:03:57.720so i'm not going to hijack it just yet oh quite all right you're going right where i like going
01:04:03.000anyways so but yes to set it up uh clinton is kind of a for those who haven't seen him on before he
01:04:08.600loves the the polling and the data and the stats and he watches it very closely on the federal
01:04:14.440front and uh so perhaps clinton if you can kind of run down where our federal polling is sitting
01:04:20.120today sure so uh this week there's been uh numbers that have come out from nanos as well as abacus
01:04:29.560data so a lot of people that are sort of conservatives get upset with nanos numbers
01:04:36.120for whatever reason even though he's nailed every election essentially perfectly since 1993 from his
01:04:44.040days with Compass Research. And obviously, Abacus data leans more conservative with Bruce and Rick
01:04:52.920Anderson and David Coletto running that particular operation. So what's interesting is that in both
01:05:01.640sets of data, the Conservatives are essentially in the mid-20 range nationally. The Liberals are in
01:05:10.920solid majority territory. So what we're seeing is the Tories are between 23% and 27% nationally,
01:05:24.200and the Liberals are in that 37% to 40% range.
01:05:33.640So what that basically means is that if an election were held today,
01:05:37.320that the Liberals would form a solid majority government. And the Conservatives would be
01:05:47.960in really deep trouble. In fact, I would argue that they would have a hard time
01:05:53.320holding on to 100 seats in the Canadian Parliament. So that gives you sort of a
01:06:00.040national breakdown of what we're looking at. And then if you want later, we can go into the
01:06:04.920regional breakdown sure well and then mark so i guess we'll pop over to you you know and when
01:06:11.880we're looking at uh i mean i i see a freight train of a liberal majority heading towards us uh is
01:06:19.560there any possibility we can turn this around in this next two months somehow yeah you need a major
01:06:24.200liberal scandal but they do that periodically and i think they're going all out to prevent
01:06:30.760details from what happened in that Winnipeg microbiology lab in 2019 and before. And we're
01:06:39.560talking about two researchers there, two Chinese researchers brought in. I mean, who gave these
01:06:45.440guys security clearance? Who knows? Possibly somebody in government maybe wanted to suck up
01:06:51.200to the Chinese. Why aren't these two arrested? What was their raid about? What did they do?
01:06:57.920What are they alleged to have done? I mean, that scandal is brewing. But of course, the liberals have pulled out all the stops now, even going so far as to take Speaker Rota to court in order to prevent, in order to stop this move towards releasing potentially damning documents related to that raid.
01:07:19.260We've already seen Ian Stewart, head of the public health agency, called on the carpet, and none of that has deterred the liberals from doing everything in their power to prevent those documents from coming out.
01:07:35.020So that potentially is a major liberal scandal.
01:07:38.980And so the liberals want to go before that thing plays out.
01:07:43.000So I suspect that they want that majority back.
01:07:46.020One reason, besides continuing to push their tyranny on the rest of the country, is to
01:07:51.520use their numbers to block any further release of those key documents and any more potentially
01:07:59.420explosive details from what took place at that facility.
01:08:03.000And that's why the Tories, they could smell a potentially huge scandal there as well.
01:08:08.180So they've been pushing very hard to have a look at those documents.
01:08:12.880To be fair to the NDP, they've done the same thing.
01:08:15.200They've been involved in trying to find out exactly what happened there and why.
01:08:19.500And I think that could potentially help O'Toole and company.
01:08:23.900But we've got to find out what happened first.
01:08:26.780And it looks like the Liberals are heading for an election before all the details from that raid become public.
01:08:35.080Yeah, well, and Liberals, I guess you could say that the liking of the Liberals, the support for the Liberals just remains strong in central Canada and parts of the East.
01:08:43.280But the other thing is I'll get Clinton to go into some of the regional things.
01:08:46.680Conservative support, it has to be noted, is extremely weak, particularly in the Western strongholds.
01:08:51.960I mean, not only do people need to get sour on the Liberals, they've got to fall back in love with the Conservatives somehow, and it's not looking very good for O'Toole out in the prairies.
01:09:00.900Yeah, so to your point, Corey, if we look at Western Canada, where Conservatives like to often sort of brag about as being the heartland of conservatism and how the East is bad and that kind of thing,
01:09:21.040What we actually find, in fact, is that in British Columbia, it's a three-way race with the Conservatives in third place.
01:09:32.520When we look to the prairies, this is where things get really interesting.
01:09:38.320So in Alberta, the Conservatives are leading, but they're not leading like they would have 10 or 20 years ago.
01:09:47.100it they're currently at 39 percent in alberta federally and the liberals are at 34
01:09:55.080um so you know let's not kid ourselves this is a a tight competitive race that's going to occur
01:10:04.440in alberta and i am i guess one of the few uh i guess in a minority uh that that generally
01:10:12.720believes that the liberals are going to elect members of parliament in Edmonton and Calgary,
01:10:18.720assuming that the current trends continue. And then when we look at the numbers in Saskatchewan
01:10:25.200and Manitoba, the liberals are actually beating the conservatives right now in the regional
01:10:30.160breakdown. So it's very tight and it's almost a virtual tie. But in Saskatchewan and Manitoba,
01:10:38.640it's 34 to 33 for the liberals and you know when we look at uh ontario well that's where the blowout
01:10:47.840is so uh you know both the abacus data numbers as well as the nanos numbers show uh that the
01:10:56.480liberals are way out in the lead in nanos's case uh they're predicting 50 of ontarioans
01:12:15.680That's why I believe we're probably looking at a solid Liberal majority.
01:12:20.220Sorry, I didn't mean to hog all the time.
01:12:22.120I just thought we'd go through the numbers.
01:12:24.580Yeah, well, so it's clear, you know, in light of the numbers like that, and the implosion of the Greens helps the Liberals as well, because it gives another left of center, you know, vote that's going to move somewhere, and they're not going to go to the Conservatives.
01:12:36.220So, I mean, you can tell that they're chomping at the bit to try and get that majority to withstand pending scandals, as Mark was pointing out.
01:12:43.320So, you know, when Parliament closed, I mean, we can tell, again, they don't expect to sit again.
01:12:48.500Some of them were giving their farewell speeches before the end of Parliament, you know, the ones who weren't going to run again.
01:12:54.000uh they dropped a few bills that clearly aren't again unless we actually go through a fall session
01:12:59.360you know these are not actually going to come into being their campaign planks is what they are
01:13:03.280and we're seeing uh c36 which is bringing back the hate speech laws we're seeing minimum wage hikes
01:13:08.800uh mark like as we get into campaign mode you know barring uh uh you know the scandal breaking uh
01:13:15.680what's the campaign going to look like what kind of planks are people going uh setting up
01:13:19.200up themselves for? Well, barring a major liberal scandal, I think the West is going to see what's
01:13:26.560going on in the rest of the country. They're going to see that liberals are going to win big time
01:13:33.300in Ontario, like Clinton said. They're polling somewhere between 42 percent and 50 percent.
01:13:40.540From what I'm hearing, O'Toole could even lose his own seat. I mean, I'm not saying it's going
01:13:45.860to be a complete debacle, but it really looks bad at the moment. It's a snapshot in time. A lot can
01:13:50.960happen between now and election day, but that's the way it looks right now. So if it starts moving
01:13:56.360and the liberals are in cruise mode and O'Toole continues to spin his wheels, although we're
01:14:03.020starting to see maybe some strength from the NDP, Jagmeet Singh polling in the high teens, now 18%,
01:14:08.980and maybe that's the result of some of the implosion in the Greens. Maybe some of them
01:14:14.860are going over to the New Democrats rather than the liberals. But I think potentially this could
01:14:20.880be a huge debacle for the Tories in the sense that Albertans and people in Saskatchewan right
01:14:27.220across the prairies are going to see, oh, look, liberals are going to get, the Tories are going
01:14:32.260to get slaughtered in Ontario. They're getting no traction whatsoever in Atlantic Canada.
01:14:37.060They're going to lose maybe half of what seats they have in Quebec. I mean, do we really want
01:14:43.340to have the one lone Tory rump going into Parliament? Or do we want to have somebody
01:14:49.580representing us like the Mavericks, who are going to say to the rest of the country, look, we're not
01:14:54.980happy. We used to want in, but now we want out. And so they're going to be the Western version of
01:19:40.080So, look, one of the things I want to point out is that there's another angle to this that I think could make some of your listeners uncomfortable, but it's something that I've been grappling with.
01:19:54.480And maybe conservatism, as it's currently constructed in Canada, is not necessarily a winning game anymore.
01:20:07.000And the reason I argue this is because if we look at Alberta, for example, the so-called heartland of Canadian conservatism, to me, when I look at the polling data at the provincial level, and I'm by no means an expert on Alberta provincial politics,
01:20:27.160But it looks to me like the new Democratic Party of Rachel Notley is well positioned to most likely win another majority government.
01:20:38.440And if we look at the mayoralty races in Calgary and Edmonton in recent years, we have seen Mayor Nenshi in Calgary and Mayor, I believe it's Iveson.
01:20:54.160Edison, in Edmonton, that have had politically very successful careers.
01:21:02.900And when we combine that with the federal outlook of liberals, member of parliaments
01:21:12.260being elected in Calgary and Edmonton, and a new Democrat federally being elected in
01:21:17.400edmonton strathcona uh perhaps the culture of the political culture has changed in such a way that
01:21:27.960conservatism as as canadians sort of know it perhaps it it's run its course in alberta
01:21:35.880as it's currently constructed and that might be something for pollsters to examine and for
01:21:43.080strategists to think about but i do think it's important to examine what's happening municipally
01:21:48.840and provincially as well as federally to kind of get a better understanding of how regions and
01:21:58.200provinces and cities are changing across the country well there's there's definitely some
01:22:03.800flux going on i mean the possibility for notley to get in isn't so much that that conservatism
01:22:10.200has collapsed and that not least popular, it's that the UCP is doing a piss poor job and losing
01:22:16.020support and they were split four different ways now. But I mean, again, that does mean that, I
01:22:20.860mean, for one conservative group or movement to get it together and get a large enough group of
01:22:24.900people together to make a change, they've got to change their strategies somehow because this
01:22:29.480isn't working. And the loathing, I mean, we're seeing NDP doing strongly in Alberta federally
01:22:34.480as well. But I think, again, that's just because, I mean, liberal is still poison out here to most
01:22:38.320of us. We have no use for it. But as Mark's talking about too, though, this could be a
01:22:44.480turning point. And as some of the commenters are saying on here as well, we're at a point where
01:22:49.520maybe we want to see a liberal majority because we want to get this ban going. Let's get the0.97
01:22:54.340separatism going. We beat our head on this wall long enough. It's time to get out. I mean,
01:22:59.120conservatism won't take hold anywhere else in the country, but we've still got a foothold here.
01:23:03.320Well, look, and one of the other things, just to go back to the reason I think it's important to sort of think about conservatism's role in Canada today and its future is because when we look at some of this polling data that Abacus Data has released over this last week, you know, when we look at the urban centers, so cities across the country, the Liberals have a 15-point lead.
01:23:30.720Now, a lot of conservatives would say, well, that's to be expected. Liberals generally do well in cities, in city cores, whether it's Edmonton or Toronto or Halifax or Vancouver or wherever.
01:23:45.160But what's more interesting about this polling data is that when we examine the suburbs of cities, those key areas where conservatives have to appeal to soccer moms and dads, the liberals are leading by 10 points.
01:24:08.080and when we look at the rural parts of canada it's actually a tie so when we look at the
01:24:21.360the rural parts of canada the towns and villages uh the conservatives and liberals are tied at
01:24:27.740about 33 34 percent each so that tells me that culturally that there's a big change
01:24:34.120occurring throughout the country and that poses a lot of problems uh for conservative politicians
01:24:41.020and parties and conservative strategists uh i'm going to just temporarily log out for a moment
01:24:48.160to try to get a better connection sure i apologize there's a bad connection but i will jump back in
01:24:54.040here in another minute if you guys can just carry on sure no quite all right uh and and yeah mark
01:24:59.860You're in, as is often labeled, vote-rich Ontario.
01:25:04.320But, I mean, that is the biggest swing we have in the nation.
01:25:42.520He's a fat-faced, narcissistic moron who should never have been elected in the first place under the pretext that he was a fiscal conservative when he's anything but.
01:27:02.300But she puts out this tweet, as you were mentioning earlier, saying, yeah, I admit, you know, I have benefited from white privilege because I am a cis white woman.
01:27:12.920But, you know, I'm also a victim because of all those all that maleness around me.1.00
01:27:18.620amongst all these conservatives, but what the hell is she talking about? What is she really
01:27:23.680saying here? She's saying, yeah, I may be white and I may be straight, but I'm also a woman,
01:27:30.140so I'm also partially a victim. She's playing identity politics just the way the liberals do.1.00
01:27:35.000And so conservatives see that and they smell a fake. They smell a rat. They have no interest
01:27:39.900in supporting that kind of crap. What we need is real conservatives saying, this is what we believe.
01:27:45.460You know, these are our principles. We believe in them. We're going to stick to them. Lower taxes, more freedom, less regulation. We believe in free markets as a way to bring more wealth, not all these oppressive climate policies that are not going to change one iota about the global temperatures.
01:28:02.760So we need somebody to be firm in those things, not fakes, not lily-livered fake conservatives like Aaron O'Toole.
01:28:10.000And when you start having that, you will find people rallying behind somebody who's a true believer.
01:28:14.960Right now, conservatives in this country are demoralized.
01:28:18.080That's the real story behind the polls.
01:28:46.620We saw a guy trying to suck up to Ottawa every chance he got.
01:28:49.800No wonder people are disappointed and demoralized in conservatives.
01:28:54.380It's not that they don't believe in those policies.
01:28:56.340is that they look around and they don't see too many people apart from a handful who really
01:29:01.400represent and speak for them. That's what's going on here, in my view. Oh, absolutely. And you hit
01:29:06.220it on the head. And I'm glad you mentioned that with Nahed Nenshi because, I mean, Nahed was
01:29:10.980elected on a mountain of bullshit. And when I was involved in that campaign, my wife actually1.00
01:29:17.160ran for council during that campaign. So we were watching it very closely. And I mean, we knew him
01:29:21.840from Mount Royal College. It was surprising that the son actually fell for his line of being
01:29:26.380conservative. He had enough documented history. This guy is almost NDP territory and our own
01:29:32.340apathy has allowed him to stay in as long as he did. But I like what you've brought up because
01:29:38.700it's a matter of principle more than policy. I mean, people will vote for an honest politician
01:29:43.700if they feel comfortable with him. You can write all the policies in the world. And then when you
01:29:47.860see O'Toole flipping, flopping all over the place and everything he's got to. I mean, there's a lot
01:29:52.480of conservatives in Ontario. There's a lot of conservatives in the Maritimes, but they're not
01:29:56.560going to hesitate to vote for somebody else if they see what they think is a liar. Yeah, they
01:30:00.560don't have the courage of their convictions. And in Aaron O'Toole's case, he doesn't even have
01:30:04.680convictions. So, you know, he just wants the big job. You know, he wants the sweet gig. He wants
01:30:10.200the big office. He wants the title. He wants the money. He wants to be able to travel all over the
01:30:15.220place and say, look at me, I'm prime minister. But at his core, he doesn't believe in conservative
01:30:20.100policies, because if he did, that would be reflected in the way he conducts himself in the
01:30:24.740policies that his party is going to run on. And you're not seeing that with Erno O'Toole. And
01:30:29.000that's why people are not supporting the Conservative Party of Canada, not because they don't believe
01:30:33.360in conservative policies and values, but because they don't believe in the people running for the
01:30:38.460parties that are supposed to be standing up for them well look i i think it's important though
01:30:45.820that to my earlier point that when we examine the polling data we have to ask ourselves those
01:30:52.240questions as to why is it that in rural canada typically where the conservatives would easily
01:30:59.100win hands down that they're in a virtual deadlock heat uh you know with the liberals and the
01:31:06.860conservatives in it because the conservatives are not conservatives clinton i mean that's that's the
01:31:11.300short answer people in the rural parts of the prairies are looking at the conservative party
01:31:16.940in canada say well i'd like to vote conservative but they're not conservative so why should i
01:31:21.740support them and so they're looking around they're not sure what they're going to do do i vote for
01:31:26.160max's party do i vote for the maverick party and so you're seeing a fracturing it doesn't mean that
01:31:31.620those people are any less conservative than they were last year or 10 years ago what it means is
01:31:36.840the conservative party of canada has abandoned them and so they're looking long and hard at
01:31:41.720alternatives but that doesn't mean that they feel any differently about conservative values
01:31:46.200and principles in my opinion anyway so one of the things i believe that will be a a huge sort of
01:31:55.640game changer over the next 12 months when it comes to conservatism in canada
01:32:00.360is probably going to be the early election call from Prime Minister Trudeau.
01:32:06.860You know, like I've heard from multiple people that have indicated that the writ campaign will most likely begin on August 1st.
01:32:20.340But then in the last week, I've heard that timetable has been sped up.
01:32:28.340And the reason it's been sped up is because the polling data is just so strong that the Liberals would rather go sooner rather than later because they sense a majority government.
01:32:43.640and um you know if it is a major defeat uh for the uh for the conservatives this is going to give
01:32:54.600them time to rethink uh what they need to do in order to win because uh you know if there's a
01:33:06.000liberal majority that means basically conservatives out of power for a decade you know by the time
01:33:12.300you get to the end of four years and well they brought it on themselves as far as i'm concerned
01:33:18.060you know two rigged leadership races in three years you know treating their uh base like a
01:33:25.100giant atm machine uh playing them for fools you know people have had enough and then inserting a
01:33:33.740guy who's probably the least conservative of the bunch of the people running you know if you compare
01:33:38.780him even to you know leslin or or derek sloan or peter mckay this was the furthest left of the
01:33:47.040bunch a guy who's only in the conservative party because of his old man he was the conservative
01:33:52.020and he and i guess aaron just went along for the ride and so people have people are fed up people
01:33:58.580are angry with the conservative party that's why they're not giving them money that's why they're
01:34:02.120looking around so maybe the conservative party of canada needs to be wiped out you know to make
01:34:08.200way for something else because right now it's a very corrupt party it's uh betrayed its base
01:34:13.940they install this dud of a candidate who's a want to be liberal and so now conservatives are
01:34:22.920looking around and i suspect out west they're going to give the mavericks a long hard look
01:34:27.520and this country could look very very different after the next election very politically as
01:34:33.840fractured as it's ever been i mean it's good it should be an interesting election well we'll be
01:34:39.680that if nothing else i'll kind of close off it's looking pretty bleak but with the speculation
01:34:44.160because uh i i know and as clinton has said uh you know the liberals are salivating they want
01:34:49.280to get to the polls i mean it's not looking any better than it will right now you know the the
01:34:53.360greens are in disarray the conservatives can't gain traction and as was noted there might be a
01:34:57.760scandal approaching them that they want to get this done before that hits but uh i'll just kind
01:35:03.120to for from each year get your speculation on when they're going to pull a pin like because the
01:35:07.360liberals will still need an excuse they'll need a reason they'll need an issue they're going to say0.99
01:35:11.200this is the hill that we're dying on this is what we have to take to canadians and i don't see a
01:35:16.400single issue right now that they're going to use to go to whatever they have to use it as a
01:35:22.320substitute for governor general and say we need to dissolve the parliament and go to the people
01:35:26.320uh when do you think they're going to go uh i'll start with you clinton you said earlier uh
01:35:31.040possibly the start of august and what excuse will they use to do it well so i actually think they're
01:35:36.800they're they're uh looking to actually uh to go earlier so you know the the talk on on parliament
01:35:44.720hill was the first of august i believe they're probably gonna go uh the second week of july
01:35:53.920probably like roughly two weeks from now um and i believe the campaign is probably going to be a 36
01:36:01.760day uh long campaign which is the bare minimum that you need in regards to elections canada laws
01:36:10.480um and as far as the rationale for what they will use uh look we've heard the a number of
01:36:20.080member of parliaments on the government side say how unworkable this minority government is.
01:36:26.400And as Mark alluded to earlier, there are lawsuits that are either being instigated or threatened
01:36:35.600towards the Speaker of the Canadian House of Commons in regards to intelligence briefings
01:36:43.680and documents and those kinds of things and so the government may say that this has gotten so bad
01:36:51.840that we have no choice but to go to the governor general uh in order to seek a majority and um
01:37:00.080look it depending on the questions that the public starts to ask um you know it could
01:37:09.280be problematic for the liberals uh it's not a guarantee that they will you know that they're
01:37:15.120going to stomp to a huge majority any government can lose uh but it it looks like the expectations
01:37:23.680are so low for for aaron that um that even if he exceeds expectations the bar will be so low that
01:38:08.280But Canadians, a lot of Canadians know he's a fraud, know he's a fake.
01:38:12.640This guy positioning himself as somebody who's going to represent, you know, ethnic diversity and fairness, and he's going to tackle race.
01:38:23.600this is a serial blackface wearer who has abused more women in his caucus than any prime minister0.81
01:38:31.700in the history of this country. Whether you go back to elbowing that new Democrat, she's obviously1.00
01:38:36.580not in his caucus. But early on, he was manhandling a conservative and he elbowed a woman in the
01:38:42.840chest. He alienated Selena Cesar Chavanis to the point where she felt she was just nothing but a
01:38:49.980token black woman. And when when she said that he didn't she didn't want to run, he reduced her to
01:38:56.000tears right there. Everybody could see it. They could see how abusive he was to her. And she wrote
01:39:01.580about it. And she said he was fake as a F word. Then you had, of course, the treatment of Jody
01:39:07.380Wilson-Raybould booting her out because she wouldn't bend to his will and wouldn't acquiesce
01:39:13.280to his demands that he give SNC-Lavalin a get-out-of-jail-free card, and of course,
01:39:20.300Jane Philpott booted out. This guy has treated women incredibly shabbily. So for him to come out
01:39:26.500and say, look at me, the great feminist vote for me, that just doesn't wash anymore. Everybody1.00
01:39:30.980knows he's a fraud. Everybody knows he's a phony. So those are the kind of things that he is facing
01:39:35.540now as he's going out, trying to bring back some of that magic that he had from 2015. But
01:39:41.760unfortunately, conservatives are demoralized. We're starting to see a bit of a surge for the
01:39:47.120New Democrat Party. So that may actually be a huge fly in the ointment for Justin Trudeau
01:39:51.960as he tries to drag the party further left. We're talking about some of, you know, if you see
01:39:56.780censorship, you know, bringing back the hate law. Remember what he did in Quebec where he said,
01:40:02.280yeah, Quebec is a nation and French is its official language. Well, how is that going to
01:40:07.620fly out west where Albertans would say, well, excuse me, we're a nation too. And maybe English
01:40:12.560is going to be our official language out here. So it's starting to cause huge rifts right across
01:40:17.780the country. I just want to jump in. One of the things I want to also mention just to some of
01:40:24.660those earlier points in regards to what Mark is saying, and I may have missed it when I had to
01:40:30.040jump out due to my poor connection. Sorry about that earlier. Is that, you know, besides the
01:40:37.120Maverick party, the separatist guys there. There's also, you know, there's serious talk
01:40:43.680that former Conservative MP Derek Sloan is going to have a new political party that he's getting
01:40:50.220ready to unveil. And, you know, that I'm guessing is a party that could probably appeal to a lot of
01:40:57.600the social conservative vote that exists out there. And so if Derek is successful at launching
01:41:04.280a new political party before the general election is called, you know, that could eat away at a lot
01:41:11.620of conservative parties' support. And so that's not helpful to Mr. O'Toole or the conservatives.
01:41:19.720And then, you know, there are sort of what I like to call kind of the fringe
01:41:23.080elements out there, like kind of the Max Bernier's, the sort of anti-immigration types
01:41:29.660that could also eat into Conservative Party support.
01:41:36.700So it's strange because we're seeing the Green Party collapse.
01:41:39.960And by the way, I think not only will we see a new Conservative Party leadership race,
01:41:45.020but I think the Green Party may be facing a leadership race
01:41:49.500because I don't believe Anna Mae Paul is going to survive over the next six months.
01:41:57.480And to Mark's point, if the new Democrats can't get their act together, Jagmeet Singh may be looking for a new job soon as well.
01:42:08.560So I think we're in for some exciting times when it comes to, you know, watching politics and kind of seeing how everything unfolds here over the next 30 to 45 days.
01:42:20.180Well, for political wonks like us, there's definitely going to be lots to watch over the next couple of months.
01:42:25.980uh probably not good by the sounds of it but uh definitely worth discussion maybe we'll move on to
01:42:31.340better things we're moving on to a heat wave here in alberta i'm not sure what the eastern
01:42:35.180forecaster looks like it looks like mark's enjoying the outdoors right now yeah it's over
01:42:39.180it's overcast but it's cool it's not hot at the moment it's uh so we'll look at the bright sides
01:42:45.980we've got and celebrate canada day uh next week where it's still allowed anyways and uh
01:42:51.500yeah watch for how little justin trudeau says about how good canada is this guy is in the
01:42:58.560business of destroying this country and i'm sure he hates canada today because he feels obligated
01:43:02.940to say something nice about this country but nobody has been more of a downer than justin
01:43:08.600trudeau when it comes to his talking up this country you know you expect the leader to talk
01:43:13.400up your country justin trudeau doesn't do that because he's too busy wrecking the place
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01:44:04.460thanks mark and clinton uh you see you've got your twitter handle up on there and i gotta ask though
01:44:09.580what's that cow bay love thing about on your street there so calabay is a surf community in canada
01:44:16.300so it's uh i live in cal bay and uh it's an ocean beach community and surfers from all over the
01:44:24.900united states and canada come up here and surf uh you know winter months summer months it doesn't
01:44:31.420matter there's no cows there there's no cows no no there's no well there's deer so there's you can
01:44:37.080get a you get a decent steak but yeah yeah well there's deer and that kind of thing but uh yeah
01:44:42.920it's surf country so if you like spending time on the ocean in the water and and that kind of
01:44:48.840thing calve is uh it's the best place in canada great yeah we got lots of cows but we mostly got
01:44:54.840sloughs when it comes to water so we just have to enjoy what we got but we've got some fantastic
01:44:59.400mountains anyways every area has some great stuff if you want to look for it so thanks again for
01:45:04.280coming on guys uh we'll see you some point i'm sure as the campaign gets rolling along and uh
01:45:09.800try to chart the future of this country or what's left of it thanks guys see ya thank you for having
01:45:16.200me on thanks bud bye all right so yeah i always love when i can get those guys on like i said uh
01:45:27.000and as mark said i certainly agree with me alberta needs to just get more introverted
01:45:31.400but apologizing for for being what we are and uh again i said before we should emulate quebec uh
01:45:37.880just get into it for ourselves don't worry about the rest of the country and i got a feeling we're
01:45:44.760see a heck of a lot more of that attitude come along after this federal election where we're
01:45:50.280probably going to be seeing a liberal majority coming and yet again we can't get rid of these
01:45:54.680guys uh we keep creating rotten conservative alternatives to vote for it it's gonna be
01:46:03.560interesting seeing what springs up coming out there. Sloan, yeah, he's trying to get something
01:46:09.060rolling. I've been hearing those rumors. Though the logistics of getting a good campaign base
01:46:13.700going, I mean, he can cut in, he can get some candidates out there specifically, I guess,
01:46:18.180on the social front and some things. How much of a bite he might take, I don't know. Somebody
01:46:22.080was saying that maybe he'll kind of tag team with Hillier and there's a bit of an Ontario
01:46:28.140base that he can nibble at. I mean, some of those swing seats, if this election is going to be this
01:46:32.580tight. You can't underestimate anybody anymore. A lot of races are going to be decided by literally
01:46:38.540a couple or a few hundred votes and dismiss Bernier and dismiss Jay Hill, you know, at your
01:46:47.600peril. They can be the decision maker in those constituencies because of conservatives who just
01:46:54.440can't stomach voting for Aaron O'Toole's party. Calgary, look at those numbers. Look at the numbers
01:47:00.140from past elections. We've got, you know, Calgary Centre, some of those Northeast ridings, Edmonton.
01:47:05.880I mean, yeah, we've got an NDP member sitting in there. We can't sit here and say it's impossible
01:47:10.600to get Liberals in Alberta. It's very possible right now. Sloan, Aramita Sloan, O'Toole is just
01:47:16.820not winning the hearts and minds out here. And it's going to have to be a whole another election
01:47:21.020cycle. I'm starting to get along the lines like one of the commenters Albertans was saying is
01:47:25.300accelerationism. Let's just pull off the bandaid, get Trudeau in for a majority so we can quit
01:47:30.720pissing around and wasting our time on the federal front. And let's get moving on the
01:47:34.640Wildrose Independence Party. Let's move towards the real referendums and not just this equalization
01:47:39.820one that's just going to get thrown back in our face. I'm supportive of the equalization
01:47:43.560referendum because I want to see people practice campaigning. I want to see them learn how to win
01:47:48.340a referendum because that's what we have to do. We don't just have a referendum, we got to win it.
01:47:52.400And that's a whole different type of campaigning. And this is a good practice run. So this equalization campaign will not be a waste of time, despite what some people are saying about it. It's a trial run is what it is. It's a dry run. And when we get a liberal majority, I tell you what, we're going to start getting the atmosphere for the real campaign. And this country is broken. It really is.
01:48:13.440I mean, we pit regions against each other, we can't seem to get good government, we just get effective politics from some of them.
01:48:21.380I mean, as Mark pointed out, this is a prime minister, he's faker than Anna Nicole Smith's tits were, for crying out loud, and we can't seem to get rid of him.
01:48:30.320I mean, they call him a feminist, and he's been one of the worst abusive prime ministers against women in living history.
01:49:05.640It's deeper than just who's at the top.
01:49:07.380And that's what people have got to realize.
01:49:08.560Even if we got another good conservative leader, if we got somebody in there, Harper came back or somebody of that sort and ran it for a term or even two terms, the system's still broken. It doesn't change. If anything, it drags it out longer. We need to change the system.
01:49:28.940And we saw from Meach Lake and Charlottetown, for those of us old enough to remember, it's almost impossible to change the system, unfortunately. It will take a serious crisis to make the country ready and willing to change the system. And I can't think of one more serious than to have a province voting to leave. That's it. You know, we're out.
01:49:46.200The Clarity Act tells us how to do it. A clear question, yes or no. And at that point, the
01:49:51.840country is, according to our local legislation in Canada, obligated to negotiate our secession
01:49:58.380in good faith. So you know what? Let's get Prime Minister Trudeau back in there. Let's give the
01:50:03.700jerk a majority. We're not going to hurt any worse for it. And then we can just start planning on
01:50:10.400what really will change things. And that's independence, because nothing else is going
01:50:13.100to. We're just beating our heads against the wall. But either way, we might be in for a summer
01:50:16.420campaign. You know, I differ with Clinton a little bit on that one. I don't think they're
01:50:20.960going to want to go in midsummer. We'll see. I mean, that's the beauty of a parliamentary system.
01:50:24.860Summer campaigns are difficult. I mean, people are distracted. I mean, you kind of do informal
01:50:31.560campaigning. You hit the barbecues, you hit the summer events, and you do things like that,
01:50:35.880and the handshaking. But when it comes to outright door knocking, trying to catch people when they're
01:50:39.800at home, catch their ear. They're busy vacationing. They're busy doing what they can, particularly
01:50:44.400this year, even if it's local campgrounds and such, you know, due to travel restrictions,
01:50:48.820it's going to be a hard time to campaign. I'm thinking maybe mid to late August. My internet's
01:50:54.220fading on me here too. One of those days. And we'll be into a September election, but we'll see.
01:51:00.240It's definitely coming soon. You don't have to read that hard in the tea leaves for it.
01:51:04.600So I'll wrap up. Thanks for those hanging in. You know, we had some great content,
01:51:08.460even though we had a number of technical challenges.
01:51:10.520I'm going to probably try and get Linda on,0.95