Western Standard - The Cory Morgan show. May 31 2021

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00:02:00.000 Good morning, welcome to the Cory Morgan Show for this last day of May, May 31st, 2021.

00:02:24.000 on getting uh into the summer the weather's fantastic and so far so good it sounds like

00:02:31.040 we might be heading to a reopening finally a lot of us looking forward to it a lot of people

00:02:36.180 howling that it's premature i i'm not sure i guess they do really want us to stay closed in

00:02:41.000 perpetuity but i'm looking forward to opening getting out and having something more akin to a

00:02:46.660 life going on. So I'm just going to start out. That reminder to everybody, we do not take

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00:03:39.940 and it's for the better of all of us. So I'm going to start today. I'm going to have Dave

00:03:43.440 Naylor, he's our news editor, come on and talk about what he's working on to kick off the week,

00:03:48.680 what news items are topping the stories these days, and what he's going to be looking forward

00:03:55.600 to as the week progresses. So let's get Dave on here. And there we go. How are you doing today,

00:04:02.400 Dave? It's Monday, Corey. Merry Monday to you. Thanks. At least it's a nice Monday outside. I

00:04:10.500 here in the western standard uh headquarters there uh well the world headquarters based in

00:04:18.340 downtown calgary right on uh so uh maybe just to start things off with a bit of a rundown uh

00:04:25.220 what uh are the top news stories in this last few days and what are you working on right now

00:04:30.340 well i think without a doubt corey it's the uh that horrible discovery of the uh 215 children's

00:04:37.300 bodies at the residential school in Kamloops absolutely horrible you know there aren't enough

00:04:44.500 adjectives to describe it so I think that's obviously the big one our British Columbia

00:04:51.780 reporter Reid Small is working on that being statements coming around from across the country

00:05:01.140 NDP leader Jagmeet Singh is asking for an emergency debate on it in the House of Commons

00:05:07.300 And he's probably quite correct that that needs to be done.

00:05:11.320 Prime Minister Trudeau has ordered flags across the country on federal buildings to be flown at half mast.

00:05:19.040 And to me, Corey, there's just so many questions that this story brings up.

00:05:24.620 I mean, when you hear about it, you think of, you know, some of these like World War II burial pits.

00:05:31.720 You know, is that what it is?

00:05:33.180 Are there 215 individual coffins?

00:05:36.180 Is there, you know, just how, what is going on here?

00:05:41.520 You know, with the record of some residential schools, you've got to think that some of these kids either died of mistreatment or even worse.

00:05:51.520 And, you know, I think not only are the, you know, the families of those children deserving an answer, I think all Canadians want to know what the heck's going on.

00:06:02.080 So that'll be the main one, you know, for probably the upcoming week or so, Corey.

00:06:07.680 Yeah, it's been quite a, I guess, a wake-up call for a lot of people.

00:06:11.940 I mean, we've known about the residential schools.

00:06:13.800 We've heard bits and pieces of the horror stories over decades, but nothing drives it home.

00:06:19.400 I mean, just to get that visual and think about that many unmarked graves of children.

00:06:24.860 I mean, it's just horrifying and kind of shakes us from our place of comfort,

00:06:29.100 thinking we're in this developed nation where such things would never happen and clearly they did

00:06:33.420 it's something else i'm sure we're going to be hearing a lot more as this unfolds yeah and i

00:06:38.060 think we also need more details on the timeline where you know were these children's death uh

00:06:43.180 you know in the early 20th century you know 1919 for example uh you know did the spanish flu go

00:06:49.900 through there uh at that point uh you know were they were there more recent deaths uh just uh

00:06:56.460 just a terrible story corey yeah well and uh going into other things as we go through this

00:07:03.340 this week uh i'm sure we'll be talking a lot about the the first nations issues and again

00:07:07.260 those are this horrible horrible history of residential schools uh what other news items

00:07:11.820 have we got going on today well it's uh obviously be another fun week in politics as it always uh

00:07:18.380 seems to be out west here uh i just published a story on the western standard site on

00:07:24.780 on the Ethics Commissioner's investigation of the WE Scandal.

00:07:29.040 And as we all know, Prime Minister Trudeau

00:07:31.520 was up to his neck in the WE Scandal.

00:07:34.460 But Corey, guess who the Ethics Commissioner

00:07:36.580 never investigated?

00:07:38.420 Yes, you got it, Trudeau himself was never investigated

00:07:42.220 by the Ethics Commissioner in the WE Scandal.

00:07:44.620 And Marcel, sorry, Mario Dion said,

00:07:48.520 well, an affidavit is just as good.

00:07:50.200 So he got an affidavit from the Prime Minister saying,

00:07:54.060 his side of the story and that was good enough apparently so uh that's up there now uh alberto

00:08:01.260 uh about a health minister tyler shandro's having a a noon press conference so we'll keep an ear on

00:08:06.780 that uh the calgary municipal election scene is is heating up as we get closer to uh the big august

00:08:14.860 date so there'll be lots of stuff happening as there usually is right on yeah that wee scandal

00:08:21.020 just goes on and on. But I mean, it's clear, I mean, shouldn't you at least have some testimony

00:08:26.320 or investigation of the guy on top, the one everybody's most concerned about, and it looks

00:08:30.400 like he's gotten a pass on it. But I have to start wondering, will anything stick to him anyways?

00:08:34.780 You know, I mean, it just doesn't seem to matter with Justin Trudeau.

00:08:39.080 No, and this is, I think the report was called Trudeau 3, you know, the third investigation by

00:08:45.380 the ethics commissioner. And yeah, I mean, Corey, not even blockface sticks to him. So

00:08:52.500 in this day and age, I don't think anything will.

00:08:57.000 Yeah, I really don't know what it'll take. And yeah, so we've got the legislative session is

00:09:03.380 opening in Alberta through this week. The reopening's coming. Shandro's got his announcements.

00:09:09.040 I think in a lot of senses, people are, I mean, aside from that, that dire, dire news with the

00:09:12.920 residential school. So people are kind of looking optimistic this week as the summer develops, 0.96

00:09:16.520 I think. It is. And Jason Kenney's reopening plan, I'm sure will be the big topic of debate

00:09:23.940 in the ledge this week. Hospitalizations are now below 500, Corey. Government set out a release on

00:09:31.240 that. And if it stays below 500, that means on June 10th, we're likely to move even further ahead

00:09:38.600 into stage two of the reopening plan stage one i guess goes for uh goes for most people tomorrow

00:09:45.400 when uh they and their closest three friends in their household uh can go out for a beer on a

00:09:51.900 patio uh still i haven't heard what's happening with golf yet i've uh i've asked the government

00:09:58.080 repeatedly what the golf regulations are going to be and and they don't talk to the western

00:10:02.580 standards. So my emails go sadly unanswered. But I think you're right. It's going to be a very nice

00:10:09.460 week of weather. Last I saw, it was going into the 30s on Thursday. So yeah, I think that will

00:10:17.440 do a large part in maybe shaking some gloom off people and being more optimistic.

00:10:24.360 All right, An. I just wanted to check in with you. I guess I'll be seeing you on

00:10:28.040 Wednesday the day after tomorrow for the

00:10:30.020 pipeline and we'll really drill down on the

00:10:32.000 stories for the week

00:10:33.040 just always appreciate those stories

00:10:36.080 you keep putting out there so

00:10:38.000 prolifically catching

00:10:39.980 the interest of being on top of things so

00:10:41.960 I don't want to tear you away from it for too long so

00:10:44.120 no problem Corey

00:10:45.840 anytime have a good rest of your show

00:10:47.980 great thanks Dave thanks for the

00:10:50.040 update and I'll talk to you later

00:10:51.300 so yeah we're kicking off a week

00:10:57.960 and we've got a number of stories.

00:11:00.600 As somebody else was saying,

00:11:01.560 Teflon, Trudeau, yeah,

00:11:02.600 hopefully that coating is breaking away soon.

00:11:07.220 It's so much to cover.

00:11:09.400 I'm going to get into the First Nations issue

00:11:11.480 because it's huge.

00:11:12.540 I want to start on something a little light

00:11:13.880 before I go into something dark.

00:11:15.560 Calgary did something that I guess

00:11:16.940 is a move forward in a way,

00:11:20.940 but it's unbelievable

00:11:22.700 the century we're in sometimes

00:11:24.960 when we listen to this.

00:11:25.620 So after much discussion, much debate and everything else, they have decided now, so it starts tomorrow, you can have a beer in Calgary Parks.

00:11:34.720 But it's not as simple as that.

00:11:37.460 They're only actually opening 30 tables, picnic tables, in selected parks in the city right now.

00:11:44.520 And you have to schedule your time to go to these tables and you can have a couple of beers.

00:11:49.980 It's a maximum two hours you can stay at the table.

00:11:52.220 uh you can only have so many people with you i it's comical i mean really and how much time

00:12:01.520 are they spending on this like this is not reinventing the wheel or it shouldn't be you

00:12:08.060 know i mean how hard so many countries so many places you can go out and have a beer in a park

00:12:13.020 and particularly calgary right now when you go downtown and and you see open liquor consumption

00:12:19.340 meth consumption heroin consumption and that's just on the train and it's true we've documented

00:12:24.780 it yet the city council and and city administration tying themselves in knots to try and come up with

00:12:31.020 legislation so law-abiding people can go to the park and and sip on a beer and they've left put

00:12:37.500 out this this ridiculous you know a document on how on these 30 tables people may be able to go 0.90

00:12:44.460 going to a park and have a beer legally and listening to some of the pearl clutchers i mean 0.80

00:12:50.260 there were people worked up there were people contacting city hall oh you can't let this happen

00:12:53.820 this will lead to disorder and misery and hellishness oh what is the matter with you people

00:12:58.280 i i mean for one we've been drinking in the park for decades i don't know if you guys didn't notice

00:13:03.880 it i know i did it my you if you just kept it in a paper bag in a cooler you poured it in a coffee

00:13:08.140 mug you did whatever you had to you had beer in those parks there's a difference between drinking

00:13:12.460 in a park and being drunk in a park people say oh there's gonna be disorder all over it's still

00:13:16.380 illegal for public intoxication you still can't go stumbling around bothering people

00:13:21.020 and then people saying all the kids will be seeing open drinking holy cow you think they

00:13:24.620 haven't before what do you think happened with all those patios we stuck outside that thankfully

00:13:28.620 are opening up tomorrow people are gonna drink beer on them i don't think it's gonna turn every

00:13:31.900 child into an alcoholic i i just find it really odd we've got this supposedly progressive world

00:13:40.140 where they want to let things open up i mean we legalized pot we did a number of things

00:13:44.860 but they get hung right up on letting somebody have a beer in a park why is this a crisis you

00:13:51.980 guys why does it take this much work to just let people consume a legal product in a public place

00:13:59.260 it's it's ridiculous but you know it always comes back to control they can't just open something up

00:14:04.140 and let it be legal no we've got to come up with a hundred rules regulations laws and probably hire

00:14:09.420 another 20 union bylaw officers to run around and chase people and make sure they didn't stay

00:14:13.980 at their scheduled booked picnic table, one of the 30 in the entire city for two hours and one 0.81

00:14:21.280 minute, or we'll have to find them. Meanwhile, under the bush, around the corner, six people

00:14:25.880 are passed out cold from drinking something other awful substance. I don't know. It's always one

00:14:32.040 step forward, two steps back, especially when it comes to regulations. I think they got the right

00:14:36.360 idea. Let us get out and enjoy ourselves a little bit. Then they got to regulate it to the point

00:14:40.180 where enjoyment actually becomes utterly impossible. Either way, I just wanted to get a

00:14:46.120 quick rant on that one. As Dave was saying, the top issue, everybody's just flat-footed with this

00:14:53.820 discovery of 250 bodies outside of a Kamloops residential school site, or 215. There's probably

00:15:03.360 more you know i worked with gpr actually when i worked in the arctic we use it for ice thicknesses

00:15:08.000 and you know it's got limited ability on dry land you can find some amazing things underground but

00:15:12.720 if they've documented 215 i suspect there's a number they didn't get out and find

00:15:18.640 uh as dave was saying too there's a lot of questions how did it happen why there's a lot

00:15:25.840 lot of factors uh that school was open for almost 100 years and you've got a number of children

00:15:33.780 packed into close quarters the early part of the century even the last part of the 1800s they were

00:15:38.720 in there you're getting uh things that happen that we don't deal with today i mean they wouldn't have

00:15:43.020 the cleanest of drinking water they didn't have the best of food tuberculosis could sweep through

00:15:47.720 or smallpox the spanish flu a number of things killed children back then you know polio

00:15:54.320 But that doesn't matter. The thing is, why were these children snatched from their families and stuffed into these schools? That's the horror of the whole thing. It really is. I don't care what the intention was.

00:16:11.420 You know, some people were saying it was the government had the intention.

00:16:13.940 They wanted to bring up these noble savages and help them integrate with society. 0.99

00:16:19.500 So we had to force them in to get rid of their home languages, pull them from their families and teach them English, teach them reading and writing, 0.99

00:16:28.660 and then send them back to an isolated reserve where they live under an Indian agent and prosper somehow. 0.97

00:16:34.260 It was bizarre and absurd and wrong, just wrong. 1.00

00:16:38.540 You know, we can't make any excuses for this thing.

00:16:41.420 it was wrong. There's no getting around it. It's done. We can't undo it, but we've got to learn

00:16:50.180 from it. And as I've said to Dave, the thing that was striking is how everybody acts in shock. Well,

00:16:55.400 wait a minute. As I said, we've been talking about residential schools for a long, long time. People

00:17:00.060 have known about it for a long time. And as Dave said too, it went into recent history. That school

00:17:05.480 was opened into the 60s. Residential schools happened until 77. So I mean, there's some people

00:17:13.220 who are my age, you know, at 50, who actually spent the early part of their life in one of these

00:17:18.240 schools. And let's not beat around the bush. They were abused in those schools. Not always, not by

00:17:25.480 every person. But I mean, to start with, it was an abuse to be torn from your family in the first

00:17:30.240 place and shoved in there. Onwards from that, we know enough to know that there's a lot,

00:17:36.000 unfortunately, of sick, predatory people who get off on abusing children out there. And they put 0.82

00:17:42.560 themselves in positions where they can get at them. So you know that those schools drew those

00:17:48.560 sick buggers like flies to come in there. And look at the impunity they got to the point where they 0.99

00:17:53.940 could bury 215 children and never document it. There was no record of this. Why is this a mystery?

00:18:00.020 at least. If these things happened, you know, okay, they passed from a sweeping case of

00:18:05.780 Spanish flu going through there or smallpox or something. You should still have some records

00:18:13.680 of it. These children didn't matter to them enough that there would be some documentation

00:18:18.960 of where you buried them. You know, the families, from what we're hearing reports, all they got was

00:18:24.260 a note, yes, your child has passed. That's it. That's all you needed to know. That's all you

00:18:27.240 heard. It's horrible. And it's modern history, guys. Not ancient, ancient stuff. And we've

00:18:36.920 messed up, you know. I mean, I keep saying we. Part of the issues that happen now, we've

00:18:41.520 got so much distrust. And you can see where it started. You can see where it formed. Generations

00:18:46.380 of it. I mean, what possible way could you make more distrust between different cultures

00:18:52.020 and people, then to snatch their children away from them. You know, if anybody's read Uncle Tom's

00:18:59.020 Cabin, I mean, that's a book that's really actually quite, it's been credited to a degree

00:19:04.340 to helping get out in popular chat in the mid-1800s and make people realize the real horrors

00:19:11.900 of slavery, just how evil and sick slavery was, because people wanted to keep their heads buried

00:19:17.500 under the sand. Even back then, they didn't want to think about it. And that book brought it in

00:19:21.920 their face. You know, the most horrifying part of that book were the stories of how the children

00:19:27.360 of those slaves would be snatched away from their parents. It's the most unimaginable thing for

00:19:32.340 anybody in any culture. Can you imagine how terrifying it is as a child and then as a parent

00:19:38.400 and then not get your kid back? And people wonder why First Nations are in as much distress as they

00:19:45.180 are today as dysfunctional socially and economically as they are today who on earth wouldn't be after 0.98

00:19:52.460 that an entire population an entire culture that went through that and and we've known about this

00:19:59.820 we buried our heads in the sand a hundred years ago on this and we did lately and we still are

00:20:05.740 today and that's where i want to get to on this because the problem was race-based policy the

00:20:12.620 problem was separating and treating people completely different based on their race

00:20:18.860 and it led to this mess and the problem now though is we're trying to solve it with more

00:20:23.580 race-based policy we let the solution zing right by our heads you know we've realized something

00:20:29.740 went wrong yet we think we can right it by just changing the application of the original wrongness 0.95

00:20:35.580 So natives led, you know, they were considered lesser citizens back then. They had policies that kept them, I mean, you know, aside from the residential schools, they weren't allowed to leave the reserve without getting permission from the Indian agent on town. You know, that was up until the 60s. They were stuffed into those segregated areas. It's called apartheid. That's what it is. But we haven't gotten rid of the apartheid. We've just tried to turn it around now.

00:21:04.620 So now we've thankfully, I mean, Natives have all the same rights as everybody else, First Nations people, but they're still locked in a system of dependence and misery and, you know, this differentiation and segregation by race. 1.00

00:21:25.280 It's the reserve system. And it's broken. And it's terrible. Why on earth do we think we can 1.00

00:21:30.720 take a bunch of people based on race and separate them into these enclaves, these ghettos all over 1.00

00:21:36.380 Canada? No matter how much the solution we've been trying now is pouring more money, more money, 0.90

00:21:40.880 more resources, more resources into those places. It's fine. You got to pour some money and resources

00:21:45.460 into them. Of course you do. But they're completely dependent. I spent 20 years working in the oil

00:21:51.360 A lot of it was working on isolated areas with First Nations people. 1.00

00:21:55.940 And I tell you, it's really caused a socioeconomic mess, a disaster, dependent. 1.00

00:22:02.760 And, you know, the term I'll use is infantilized the people there.

00:22:07.280 This sense of entitlement.

00:22:10.700 And again, it's not a racial thing.

00:22:13.000 It wouldn't matter. 0.88

00:22:13.420 You take any race and stick them in that circumstance, they're going to come up, again, dysfunctional and troubled. 1.00

00:22:17.940 If you remember a press conference a little while back with a few Native ladies and they screamed at some reporters because they didn't like the questions that were going on. And really, I'm not trying to say it. I mean, you got to point out what it looked like. It looked like a childish temper tantrum. These were Native leaders from a community and they had a childish temper tantrum at the podium. 1.00

00:22:36.620 but that's because the dependency of this system has turned them into a state of where they are 0.98

00:22:42.900 like children and this is so so wrong and you can get on my case about saying it like that is

00:22:47.860 too damn bad I've been there I've seen it and this is something that we can't just pull away

00:22:53.720 supports either I'm not one of those people say just close it all down on the spot no that would

00:22:56.940 be a catastrophe but we've got to stop this path we've got an ongoing disaster and if you look at

00:23:05.380 every measure, no matter, you know, all the initiatives, all the commissions, different

00:23:09.680 governments, I'm not blaming it on any particular party or any particular government. Look at every

00:23:13.920 measure on a native reserve right now and try to tell me it's a success. Economic, no. Money,

00:23:20.460 they're way down below everybody else in North America, way down in the toilet as far as economic

00:23:24.360 goes. So it's an economic disaster. That's a given. Health, no. Masses of health issues. They've got a

00:23:30.580 lower life expectancy than everybody else suicides are up diabetes is up cancer is up obesity is up

00:23:38.900 in health it's a catastrophe crime the crime rates are higher on every level on a reserve

00:23:47.940 because again it's a mess they're in trouble i mean and again it's not see see people misinterpret

00:23:54.420 they scream when people criticize that oh you're being a racist you're taking no as i've said any

00:23:59.460 race is going to end up like that if you go stick them on these separated areas like that and make

00:24:03.860 them dependent you're going to make it a mess a socio-economic disaster and that's what we've got 0.99

00:24:08.980 education no they are not becoming educated and getting out of that there's some success stories

00:24:14.180 we can find them here and there we point at them we celebrate them and we should but you know the 0.97

00:24:18.740 success stories you see with first nations people almost always it means they had to escape the

00:24:23.060 the reserve. They had to get off there. Yet, there's no talk about getting rid of these bloody

00:24:30.440 reserves. They're dead end. They're wrong. They're race-based policy and they're wrong. No matter what

00:24:35.620 the intention is, no matter how much money you pour at it, it's apartheid and it's wrong. And we

00:24:40.300 have to at least acknowledge that before we start moving towards a solution. We don't seem to be at

00:24:45.360 that stage. Nobody's got the balls to come out and say these reserves are wrong. As Jonathan's 0.97

00:24:49.740 point. Now, the only successful reserves are the ones that are self-sufficient from other

00:24:53.380 either resource extraction or casinos, et cetera. Yes. And there's some that are well-placed if

00:25:00.400 they're near urban centers, they're near tourist areas. They can have a casino, they can have golf

00:25:06.660 courses, wineries. There's some in the Okanagan that are doing quite well. There's some on the

00:25:11.380 East Coast that have been doing okay. But again, those are exceptions among a low standard. They

00:25:17.640 still have high rates of poverty, crime, domestic abuse, all sorts of issues on them. They're just

00:25:24.540 doing better than the other reserves are. We need to work towards an end on them. And there's been

00:25:30.780 a few discussions on how to get there. As I said, it can't happen overnight. I saw some online

00:25:35.860 discussion that was pretty heavy about it. Oh, by the way, you know, and somebody, somebody got

00:25:40.900 upset with me. Oh, you're talking about this. You shouldn't be talking politics. We just heard

00:25:43.860 this. This is a period of mourning. This is too early to talk about this right now.

00:25:47.640 No, actually, right now is the exact time we need to be talking about this.

00:25:52.080 We need to talk about it when the feelings are raw.

00:25:54.860 We need to talk about it when we've just seen how horrible this system is,

00:25:58.820 when we've seen just how badly treated these people have been,

00:26:01.980 and let's see how we can get them out of it.

00:26:05.840 So no, now is the time to talk.

00:26:07.360 Not when things have calmed down, we've forgotten,

00:26:09.240 and the government's offered a bunch more apologies

00:26:10.920 and had some more ceremonies and thrown more money at it. 0.82

00:26:14.300 We need to talk about now when we're horrified by seeing the outcome of this broken, sick system. 0.97

00:26:22.820 And it's only going to get worse until we get this system out of there. 1.00

00:26:30.120 We've got to end race-based policy.

00:26:32.420 So I'm going to read something.

00:26:33.560 This is from an article I wrote years ago, but I went back.

00:26:37.060 Some people might be familiar with it.

00:26:38.660 It's called the White Paper.

00:26:39.620 Pierre Trudeau was the Prime Minister and Jean Chrétien wrote it back in 69, 51 years ago, 52 years ago.

00:26:47.100 They did realize the dead end of the system.

00:26:51.060 And this is something where they were absolutely right.

00:26:54.620 And unfortunately, through the opposition, they backed down on it.

00:27:00.240 And they didn't follow through with this.

00:27:02.820 Think of today, I'm going to read the white paper and the language of it.

00:27:05.660 Some of it's out-of-date language, but just mostly due to the term Indian.

00:27:09.620 and the gender things. But otherwise, think of how it can still apply today.

00:27:15.440 So this is a statement of the government of Canada on Indian policy, 1969, presented to

00:27:20.660 Parliament by Jean Chrétien. He was the Minister of Indian Affairs at the time.

00:27:24.520 To be an Indian is to be a man with a man's needs and abilities. To be an Indian is also

00:27:30.540 to be different, to speak different languages, draw different pictures, tell different tales,

00:27:33.940 and to rely on a set of values developed in a different world. Canada is richer for its Indian 0.98

00:27:39.300 content, although there have been times when diversity seemed of little value to many Canadians.

00:27:46.360 But to be a Canadian Indian today is to be someone different in another way. It's to be someone a

00:27:51.100 part, a part in law, a part in provision of government services, and often a part in social

00:27:56.060 contracts. To be an Indian is to lack power, the power to act as owner of your lands, the power to 1.00

00:28:01.480 spend your own money, and too often the power to change your own condition. Not only, not always, 1.00

00:28:07.900 But too often to be an Indian is to be without, without a job, a good house, or running water, without knowledge, training, or technical skill, and above all, those feelings of dignity and self-confidence that a man must have if he is to walk with his head held high. 0.95

00:28:22.240 All these conditions of the Indians and the product of history have nothing to do with their abilities and capacities.

00:28:28.000 Indian relations with other Canadians began with special treatment by government, society, and special treatment has been the rule since the Europeans first settled in Canada. 0.59

00:28:37.900 special treatment has made of the Indians a community of disadvantaged people. Obviously, 0.76

00:28:43.780 the course of history can't be changed. To be an Indian must be to be free, free to develop Indian

00:28:49.960 cultures in an environment of legal, social, social and economic equality with other Canadians.

00:28:55.460 I'll get on to where that solution went. But you read that and you look at the white paper,

00:28:59.760 you look at that preamble, what Jean Chrétien read 52 years ago in Parliament. And he was

00:29:05.260 absolutely right the same issues were going on that long ago more than a generation ago they

00:29:10.860 realized that this separation was hurting them it was hurting their self-esteem it was hurting them

00:29:17.260 economically it was hurting them physically it was a dead-end path and to say it and say it

00:29:22.220 respectfully that you can maintain the culture you can maintain the differences but it's time

00:29:27.100 to bring them in to society for us to be together because it's failing otherwise we can respectfully

00:29:34.380 undo or move away from what the original settlers and colonial system that gets this colonial talk

00:29:40.780 that gets overused right now about things today but that was the preamble and that was going in

00:29:46.300 so before they got to it and then they said here's you know what they wanted to do uh this is that

00:29:52.780 step one legislative and constitutional basis of discrimination be removed that was the bottom line

00:29:58.380 end race-based policy. It has to end. 52 years ago, we figured it out. We still can't seem to

00:30:04.700 do it today. We have to do it. We have to. Two, that there be a positive recognition

00:30:10.700 by everyone of the unique contribution of Indian culture to Canadian life. Yes,

00:30:16.200 it's a part of our whole collective being. Let's mix. Let's peace citizens. Let's get together.

00:30:23.200 This is modernizing, growing, evolving. And there could be a positive recognition of that.

00:30:27.760 what you see the residential schools were trying to exterminate it that that's you know the term 0.93

00:30:31.840 genocide it gets applied here and there rightly wrongly at times if people put the word cultural 0.94

00:30:37.360 in front of it though there's no doubt that's exactly what the residential schools were about 0.72

00:30:41.800 they were cultural genocide they were trying to wipe out the differences and cultural unique

00:30:46.920 aspects of every native in Canada they're trying to wipe that out throughout an entire through

00:30:51.260 generations of children and it was sick and it was wrong this statement says let's positively

00:30:56.600 recognize it and as a contribution to us, not a detriment. And again, 52 years ago, they're

00:31:02.900 saying this, that services come through those channels from the same government agencies for

00:31:07.100 all Canadians and that those who are furthest behind be helped most. So again, it's just saying

00:31:12.260 we make it all Canadians and get rid of the race-based part of it. Number five, that lawful 0.99

00:31:17.800 obligations be recognized. So yeah, again, we're not talking about throwing people off of reserves,

00:31:21.680 not talking about scrapping the treaties or the lands that were designated, still follow through 0.83

00:31:26.220 those lawful obligations but we've got to get out of this uh race-based system uh that control of

00:31:33.260 indian lands we transferred to indian people yeah and uh right now that isn't so i mean they've got

00:31:40.300 self-government things the efforts through the 90s but they didn't quite work out and again

00:31:44.940 there's no transfer property there's a great deal of things that that natives can't do with their

00:31:49.580 land uh that other people can so it's not really fully their land if you can't sell it it's not

00:31:54.300 yours so you're just a renter or a squatter even if you want to say to the worst but it's not their

00:32:00.140 land if they don't have that ability to mortgage or rent or sell um so government would be prepared

00:32:06.220 to take the following steps to create this framework so here's the step propose that

00:32:09.340 parliament to the parliament that the indian act be repealed and take such legislative steps as

00:32:14.700 may be necessary to enable indians to control indian lands and acquire title to them yeah

00:32:19.180 so give them their land like any other person's land and you know split it up divide it up it's 0.62

00:32:23.900 not going to be easy who said it would be it's sure not easy following the status quo either

00:32:27.900 but start moving on start going on to proper property rights and settling like everyone else

00:32:34.220 propose to governments of the provinces that they take over the same responsibility for

00:32:37.580 indians that they have with other citizens in their provinces the takeover will be accompanied

00:32:41.580 by the transfer to the province of federal funds normally provided for indian programs augmented

00:32:46.380 as may be necessary yes because uh first nations people are under the umbrella of federal government

00:32:51.260 so a whole lot of things while they're typically provincial services for everybody else for first

00:32:57.500 nations it comes through indian affairs or whatever it's called these days it's a federal thing so

00:33:02.700 again this is going back then and saying just again make them citizens like everybody else

00:33:06.220 simple as that uh number three you know make substantial funds available for indian economic

00:33:11.180 development as an interim measure so yeah you know transitional money but the goal is to be

00:33:14.940 transitional we've got to be looking to an end interim not ongoing and ongoing and ongoing

00:33:21.260 And then number four, wind up the part of the Department of Indian Affairs and our development, which deals with Indian Affairs.

00:33:26.960 The residual responsibilities of the federal government for programs in the field of Indian Affairs will be transferred to other appropriate federal departments.

00:33:33.520 This was a fantastic policy statement 52 years ago.

00:33:40.340 And yeah, this, you know, again, doesn't undo the damage of the past, the horrors of the residential schools. 0.61

00:33:48.460 but we can start the end of the damage we're doing today with this same system in a sense 0.78

00:33:55.840 there's no more residential school but there's still apartheid and that's what it is it's racial

00:33:59.780 apartheid why is this acceptable to people we didn't accept it with South Africa and it sure 0.69

00:34:04.260 as hell didn't work out well there did it but we're accepting it here 52 years ago Christian

00:34:09.060 and Trudeau realized this they recognized this they read that to the parliament and unfortunately

00:34:14.160 opposition to it shot it down you know who knocked it down yeah there was some degree of

00:34:20.640 chiefs and others who were doing quite well with the system as it sits

00:34:23.760 and a lot were the ones you know the term it isn't used enough

00:34:27.640 it's called the Indian industry there is there's a giant sub industry of people who do very very

00:34:34.820 well out of the status quo with uh with the first nations right now lawyers bureaucrats 0.96

00:34:41.260 there's band managers there's all sorts of parasites that do absolutely fantastic in the 0.95

00:34:47.700 Indian industry there's contractors why do you think we spend all this money and they still

00:34:52.180 don't have clean running water on that land well there's a number of reasons but it's not for lack 0.92

00:34:57.180 of resources it's corruption inefficiency those dollars went somewhere yeah and there's some

00:35:04.000 people as I said who do not want to see this industry change because they're making a great

00:35:09.100 out of it. And they lobby very effectively. And they lobbied Trudeau and Chrétien, unfortunately,

00:35:14.500 very effectively 52 years ago. And the white paper got scrapped and they didn't go ahead with it,

00:35:19.500 which is really too bad. And they're all suffering for it today, the natives, 1.00

00:35:25.160 people on First Nations lands. And people off of them too, when they leave the reserve, 0.99

00:35:29.500 they're coming off of a terrible circumstance, a rough area. And we see quite often, you know,

00:35:36.480 urban dwelling first nations peoples in a lot of trouble they often end up on the streets they end

00:35:40.720 up in trouble they have difficulties with the law they haven't been well socially adjusted to come 0.87

00:35:46.880 into this kind of culture and society and then they have difficulties when they get here again

00:35:51.440 some do fantastic and it's great but they're the exceptions we got to stop that we got to stop it

00:35:57.440 we're the only ones who seem to be prospering are the exceptions we got to make it the majority

00:36:01.600 And we've got to accept that this system is broken. It's not going, we can't fix it. As long

00:36:10.880 as you have one law for one race and another law for another race, it's not going to function right. 0.92

00:36:18.020 So let's start the conversation. We haven't even gotten there yet. You know, people don't talk 0.93

00:36:23.940 about it. They sweep it under the rug. As I said, that's why we're in so much shock today to hear

00:36:28.380 about those bodies discovered on the residential school property. And now people are calling out

00:36:34.840 and talking about searching another residential school lands and seeing, yeah, there's going to 0.96

00:36:37.860 be more. We know there'll be more, but we knew about this before. If you look now, you know,

00:36:43.880 some of the stories are coming up. Oh yeah, by the way, back in 2001, there was some flooding

00:36:47.400 in High River and exposed some coffins from a residential school down there that we didn't know

00:36:50.900 about. Up by Red Deer, there's another Red Deer Institutional School. And there was a bunch of

00:36:55.480 bodies up there that they discovered more years ago that they've done some ceremonies to, I guess,

00:37:00.800 reinter and recognize that they were down there. This isn't new. The only thing that's new with

00:37:04.400 this is just the volume of them, the number of them. So we're going to find more and it's going

00:37:09.720 to be emotional. It's going to be tragic. Again, we're not talking about 200 years ago. Those

00:37:14.300 children on there, they would have been the uncles and aunts of people who are living today.

00:37:20.280 You know, brothers, sisters, cousins, these are only a couple generations away.

00:37:28.400 So let's use this time, though, to start putting a critical eye to this system, then.

00:37:34.860 Let's actually look at it and realize that we've got to bring it to a stop.

00:37:40.920 You know, when people talk about defending the status quo with these reserves, I mean,

00:37:45.800 I wish it was possible that we could make everybody go out and spend a week on an isolated

00:37:50.280 reserve just once. I tell you, it would change people's views so dramatically, so quickly to

00:37:56.200 actually see it in person because nobody can spend a week on one of those isolated reserves and then

00:38:00.620 come back without lying or really just having been blind somehow and say, yeah, yeah, I see a future

00:38:06.560 there. I see something because that's what I like to ask them. What do you see, say, 40 years from

00:38:10.980 now on one of those reserves, Fort Vermillion or, you know, Assumption, or there's no end of them,

00:38:18.280 there's numbers of them. And even the ones that are down south that aren't as isolated, but they're

00:38:22.420 still in a great deal of distress. What do you see? What industries do you see to bring them

00:38:27.400 out of dependency? There's none, because quite often they're an area where there's very little

00:38:31.080 industry around. Or if there is an industry, unfortunately, the people have become so socially

00:38:35.820 dysfunctional that they can't properly take a full part in it. The days of sustenance hunting

00:38:40.360 and trapping and living those are gone come on these are human beings they're people

00:38:43.640 i mean they want to enjoy those aspects they go out hunting on the weekends things like that but

00:38:47.480 they still want to watch tv they still want a heated house that they've been the nomadic

00:38:51.960 romantic days of wandering the woods living off the land are gone they're gone for everybody

00:38:57.120 and we've got this this straddling thing where we're trying to keep this artificial culture

00:39:02.040 i i think a lot of it is almost like a a a hipster do-gooder feel-good zoo you know they feel good

00:39:09.040 Because we've kept this population up there and we've saved their culture.

00:39:13.700 No, you haven't.

00:39:14.440 Go have a look.

00:39:16.140 The culture is nothing like what it must have been 200 years ago.

00:39:18.660 And why do we want it to be?

00:39:19.820 Who wants to have a culture from 200 years ago?

00:39:22.040 We can have aspects of it.

00:39:23.500 We can recognize our cultures.

00:39:25.180 We can respect them.

00:39:26.620 We can celebrate them.

00:39:27.540 But most of our stuff from 200 years ago is crap we don't want to do anymore, no matter what culture you are.

00:39:32.240 So quit this absurd feeling that we can save this through a reserve system. 0.98

00:39:38.240 It's ridiculous. It's insane. And it doesn't have to be in a reserve to maintain the good aspects of the culture. Do we have reserves for the Chinese community, the Indian community? They maintain their cultures fantastically. And they do it within their own community. But meanwhile, they're still integrated with society and modern society and moving ahead and doing very well. And we certainly mistreated our Asian communities very badly only 100 years ago as well and less than that. 0.91

00:40:04.300 so you know they'd be in terrible distress if we'd taken reserves and kept them on them since then

00:40:10.760 so let's have that discussion that's it's enough ranting on that you know i'd uh had a guest

00:40:17.300 canceled today so short on guests to keep things running and i i figured it was a good subject to

00:40:21.960 cover though and i wanted to go on at length because it frustrated me year after year working

00:40:25.780 in the oil field and watching this and watching it get worse year after year and knowing it's

00:40:30.360 going to get worse as time passes. So hopefully we'll find some politicians to start finding some

00:40:37.880 courage to tear off that band-aid and work towards bringing an end to this archaic sick system 1.00

00:40:45.720 of race-based policy. You know, I'm going to cut the show short today, though. Like I said,

00:40:52.860 I was missing a guess. So I just wanted to go off on that. You know, let's have some other

00:40:58.220 optimism going into the week. The weather's nice. The lockdowns are coming towards an end. It's like

00:41:02.600 I was saying with Dave. Let's get out and enjoy ourselves. Find a park where city workers aren't

00:41:08.960 watching you. Have a beer. You'll be able to go on a patio soon. You'll be able to have some business

00:41:13.460 things soon. And maybe we're going to be in for a good year. We're coming out of a bad one. We're

00:41:23.280 starting off with some bad news but let's take the bad things and turn them into good ones you

00:41:28.300 know we not everything has to be negative and uh as i said now's the time to be talking about

00:41:34.180 first nations issues and and with a critical eye because you can't solve a problem until you admit

00:41:38.480 that you have one in the first place you know getting back to my old addictions treatment

00:41:42.200 cliches step one the hardest one's admitting you have a problem well our problem is race-based

00:41:46.600 policy. Until it ends, the problem is not going to go away. So let's get back to our sponsor though

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00:42:34.000 So tomorrow, Nathan Gita is going to be coming on from Prince George there with his show,

00:42:42.780 Mountain Standard Time.

00:42:44.340 between 10 and noon there he's always got a lot of great stuff to talk about and i suspect he may

00:42:48.980 want to speak to to the issue of this residential school disaster that's unfolding or it's not a

00:42:54.740 disaster it's unfolding it's a revelation you know it happened already and uh now we're starting to

00:43:00.660 be forced to look at what society did in those schools and and how wrong it is but so be sure

00:43:07.780 to tune in to nathan he covers a lot of uh interesting subjects and things and such

00:43:11.220 um and then on wednesday we'll have the pipeline and i'm gonna be on that probably with dave and

00:43:16.720 derek we cover the news items of the week and friday i will be back with a couple of guests

00:43:21.900 for a full two-hour show and we will discuss some great things i'm sure so thank you all very much

00:43:29.640 for joining me for this short show to end may but kick off summer and uh well you all have a good

00:43:36.560 day. I'll see you on the next one.

Western Standard - June 01, 2021

The Cory Morgan show. May 31 2021

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