00:02:24.640It looks like we're in for another crazy weekend as pandemic restrictions are cracking down ever tighter and rebelliousness is getting ever stronger from people.
00:02:35.460No rodeos happening this week, but it looks like quite a standoff building over in Mirror at the Whistle Stop Cafe where Chris Scott, he's always been standing out against the lockdowns and he's just not backing down.
00:02:51.260this is one heck of a stubborn guy and it looks like people are gonna you know be coming in there
00:02:55.180but i'll come into that a little more see everybody saying good morning there morning
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00:09:51.640Let me get you myself back in there. Yeah, you lost sound, you lost everything. I'm afraid my computer decided that it was a good time to reboot there. Maybe it's that Bill Gates conspiracy. He's, you know, I don't use Apple products. So Microsoft shut me down there. I doubt Bill really gives that much of a crap. Sorry about that. Thanks. This is some of the joys of live broadcast. More reasons to sponsor. I can buy a better computer down the road and this will happen less often.
00:10:19.820So thanks for those of you who are still there.
00:19:30.200All it showed was some asshole who looks like he's a Nazi, which, you know, people, again, you know, they gleefully report on the CBC.
00:19:36.980look at those Albertans. They got Nazis rising up out there. I mean, think a little harder. We can
00:19:43.220push back without crossing those lines because it ruins the discourse and we need discourse. We need
00:19:50.840to be rational here, guys, even if we're worked up. Ed's saying they'll probably block the highway
00:19:57.140around the whistle stop. Possibly, you know, but that's a big main highway. I mean, how far will
00:20:01.020you detour people? It's going to be interesting to see what Nadine observes out there. As I said,
00:20:06.060will be posting those videos as things happen up there as we can throughout the weekend. Again,
00:20:11.760I'm just hoping it's peaceful, you know, and people out there can make a point that that's
00:20:15.740the main thing here. So getting on to some of the other stuff. See, not everything is a hate crime.
00:20:20.660As I said, you know, the guy who put the Nazi flag up, I doubt he's a goose stepping Nazi party
00:20:25.980member for some party organization, who knows? I think he's just a twit. But it empowers those0.64
00:20:32.080people who call everything a hate crime, everything. And Linda Slobodian, you might remember her name.
00:20:37.880She was with Sun Media and a number of areas for a long time. She covered, we might have seen the
00:20:47.660video of it. It was a swarming of a bunch of kids really beating down on a black kid. And people,1.00
00:20:53.180of course, immediately assumed it was a hate crime. When it was investigated, while it was
00:20:57.560a pretty odious situation. They didn't feel that there was a hate crime behind it. I mean,
00:21:04.800it's of concern for sure. I'm pulling up another story here. But we can't let them always call
00:21:14.180everything a hate crime. What we've got is some out of control kids, I think, and doing some very
00:21:18.200dangerous things. Swarming is scary. But again, when we keep giving them the room to call everything
00:21:24.020hate crime to call everything racism they will take advantage of it and to our detriment it will
00:21:29.940not help us so i i wanted to uh pull up this story which was quite interesting it's called
00:21:36.660the liberals who can't quit lockdown it's in the atlantic you know i don't read left-wing
00:21:41.220publications all that often but this one was outstanding a a friend of mine sent it to me
00:21:48.020that's what i mean with with being thoughtful you know because not everybody is necessarily
00:21:52.100polarized. If we talk and we work on things, we can get some reasonability into others. So I'm
00:21:58.520going to read a bit through this. It's called In the Atlantic, a left-wing thing says, progressive
00:22:02.360communities have been home to some of the fiercest battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal
00:22:06.700policy makers have left the science behind. See, even some people on the left are figuring it out
00:22:13.400and they're talking about it. And if we can talk with each other, we can all work together and
00:22:17.140realize that, you know, things have gone too far, things are getting unhealthy. And some of the
00:22:23.920things covered in that article, again, I would suggest you look it up, it's well worth a read.
00:22:27.960So, you know, if you type Google the Atlantic and science denial, and you'll find this. So,
00:22:34.060I mean, it's showing a particularly when schools were being reopened. I mean, that's a big battle
00:22:38.640in the States, you know, infections, deaths, everything are going down heavily down in the
00:22:42.740States. I mean, it's doing great. They're coming out of this thing. But what's going on? Well,
00:22:47.140People want to get their kids back to school. Kids are safe. You know, we know that from this virus. It certainly doesn't hit healthy children. Most of the Americans are getting vaccinated. Their numbers are going down. But the battle is raging. There's a couple of fronts to it. Part of it's the unions, of course. I mean, the teachers unions have loved these, you know, vacations where they can sit at home and do online learning with the kids and shut down to have a paid quarantine every now and then when they want to take a break from even that. All you have to do is say you had a sniffle.
00:23:12.400But some of those discussions and it's laid out in the Atlantic where a woman was called a white supremacist and it was said it was part of a white supremacy move to want to reopen schools.
00:23:28.140And that's how ridiculous it's getting.
00:23:30.720And how can we have a rational discussion?
00:23:34.480But again, you see, when we get idiots putting up a Nazi flag, we give these idiots who call everybody racist that they disagree with ammunition.
00:23:41.320So that's I'm saying, let's keep our side rational, you know, and in this article talks about how scolding has become a national pastime, you know, we want to wag our fingers at people. And again, that's what the left loves doing. They love wagging their fingers, you know, you're bad, you're nasty. Well, don't give them that don't give them that ability. And again, read that article, some of them do feel it's gone too far. They feel it's time to look at the science.
00:24:08.880I mean, we're moving on to this insane zero-risk model.
00:28:13.120This thing flares up and goes down, and I don't think governments really have much control over it whatsoever.
00:28:17.840But there's a mental attitude we've all taken on where we feel the government is responsible for everything.
00:28:22.740The government has to coddle us, the government has to take care of us, and we somehow believe that the government can fix everything, unfortunately, and they can't.
00:28:30.360But then they feel obligated to do something.
00:28:32.760That's what happened is we had a crackdown because he wanted to look like he's doing something.
00:28:36.560Looking like you're doing something is actually in some ways more important than actually doing something.
00:28:43.120But we have to push back. As I said, as I finished this first half hour ramble before I get to Paul Hinman here, we've got an opportunity this weekend. We've got a time when Albertans can show that they've had enough and they will stand up for our individual rights and for our neighbor's rights. But we've got to do it calmly, rationally, you know, orderly. Don't cross that line. The people who want to lock us down further want you to cross that line. They want you to look crazy. They want you to look irrational.
00:29:35.360I don't believe I've had you on this show yet though, Paul.
00:29:38.120This is my first, Corey, and really appreciate the work you're doing, and independent journalists can't give you enough credit for what you individuals are doing.
00:29:47.800Yeah, well, and it was great seeing you last weekend at the rodeo there. You came out and you attended and you talked to a lot of people. You know, it's hard. I mean, I do understand why some elected officials didn't show up at it. I mean, it is technically something that's illegal. There is a line of principle now.
00:30:04.120elected officials can still participate in civil disobedience, but there's a very, very heavy price
00:30:07.860they're going to pay for it at that time. And I think none were ready to pay that price yet at
00:30:11.700this point, or at the least they'd be thrown out into the corner of being an independent MLA. And
00:30:17.020you remember that lonely corner all too well, where you would sit and model your one question
00:30:23.700every week or two and, you know, try and corner the press during the scrums afterwards to see if
00:30:29.060wanted to talk to you so and you did a fantastic job with the little uh the little amount of time
00:30:34.900that they gave you so i appreciate it and in your masochistic way you're still at the politics you're
00:30:39.700still pushing you're the interim leader of the wilders independence party and you are running for
00:30:45.300full leadership now yeah they've started they've opened up nominations for the leadership race i'm
00:30:50.660out trying to gather signatures sell memberships and raise money so i can have enough money to join
00:30:56.500in the race. Excellent. Yeah. Well, and I, uh, you know, and I want to get into a bit of that
00:31:01.420as, as we go, but maybe we'll start though, just with where things are with the pandemic. You've
00:31:05.680been the, like one of the things, and it's funny that the left went wild with it. I did actually
00:31:10.000talk with Jason Kinney for half an hour on a podcast last fall. He gave me some one-on-one
00:31:14.060time and, uh, the left-wing media got very upset because I started with the questioning and I said,
00:31:18.960part of the issue, what I see is you're only getting opposition from one side. You're only
00:31:23.540hearing from the left. You need to be pushed on each side if we're going to actually find a
00:31:27.560middle. That's the role of opposition. That's the role of democracy. And the left-wing media went
00:31:31.580wild because what they thought I meant was that there was only left-wing media, which there's
00:31:36.040some truth to that. But no, what I meant was in the legislature, there's only NDP. So every
00:31:40.820question is always going to come from the NDP point of view. We don't have a conservative
00:31:45.800opposition. So you're kind of the informal leader of the conservative opposition in Alberta right
00:31:50.240now uh you and drew barnes there's really even more levels of informal i guess you could say
00:31:54.340yeah well i don't know drew barnes that walks a funny walk i can't quite tell how you know where
00:32:00.480the wind's blowing he's got this fine line and an art of being able to say he's not crossed over
00:32:05.600the line and jason certainly doesn't want to kick out those few but i i got to back up and say that
00:32:10.420no that there should have been mlas that were there at the rodeo when they say that we're
00:32:14.440breaking the law no they're breaking the constitution cory it's you know that this is an
00:32:19.460edict by the government saying, oh, we have to have this fear mongering. Somebody's going to die.
00:32:25.680And they've taken it completely out of context. They won't give people their day in court.
00:32:29.820It's just unbelievable the carnage that they're causing and saying that, no, there's nothing
00:32:34.820wrong. This is like stopping something, you know, on the major highway and causing major accidents
00:32:40.240and saying, well, but we saved the rabbit that was crossing the road. No, there's carnage here,
00:32:45.620collateral damage the the individual attacks on the on on people's living on their livelihood
00:32:51.620i i'm sorry cory you got to back up and it's not about public opinion or anything else this is
00:32:58.540about individual lives this is about our constitution that's supposed to protect those
00:33:03.640unless it's demonstrably justified and you want to talk about people breaking the laws let's talk
00:33:08.880about the highest law on the land the constitution which has just been shredded even our prime
00:33:13.620minister says, I'm not worried about constitutional rights. It's very clear they're not. It's wrong.
00:33:20.140They're on the wrong pathway. And we need Albertans to rally. We need them to show up at the whistle
00:33:25.160stop tomorrow and say, this is wrong, Premier. This is wrong, Hinshaw. This is wrong, Chandra.
00:33:30.520This is wrong, Rachel. You can't do this to people's lives. And until those individuals
00:33:35.280give up as much as what they're stripping away from other people, I have zero respect for these
00:33:40.520people. It's wrong. And it's time they stand down. And what their job is, is to give us the best
00:33:45.740information, which again, as you've pointed out, Corey, it's Main Street Media. This is group think,
00:33:50.960you're not allowed to think. And the very first thing in our fundamental freedoms is our
00:33:54.900conscience. And we're not allowed to use it. Oh, no, it's not about conscience. It's about
00:34:00.920coerciveness. These people must do this. If you don't do this, oh, you're hurting society.
00:34:05.320The fear mongering is unreal, and it's unacceptable. And I'm sorry, I get really
00:34:09.580upset when I started thinking about it. And the mothers that I've met that have lost kids to
00:34:13.520suicide and so much carnage. And these people just focus, like you say, that one little tile
00:34:19.080on the wall, get real people, get real. Yeah. Well, I had a computer crash that you missed out
00:34:26.320on and I had everything lined up to be able to read these articles. As I said, if you find a
00:34:30.500time, read this one from the Atlantic, you know, I know I rarely direct people towards a left-wing
00:34:34.740publication, but it's talking about the liberals who can't quit the lockdowns. Like they've turned
00:34:38.740this into a hill to die on and they just can't seem to back off and the divisiveness the
00:34:44.580polarization and the hysteria you know i i've been a somewhat public personality for some years now
00:34:50.900and i'm one who likes stirring people up i mean i troll online i troll in person i work them up
00:34:56.060my skin is thick i don't sweat it but the last weekend cory it's what i love about you and jane
00:35:01.680Yeah, Jane puts up with a whole lot, bless her.
00:35:06.260Yeah, but, you know, I never saw vitriol like I saw last weekend.
00:35:12.200Like, holy cow, the amount of obscenities, wishes for my death, you know, calls for my arrest, calls for my conviction, people wishing my family to be sick.
00:35:26.420All of this because I was, yeah, because I was tweeting live from a rodeo, from a rodeo.
00:35:31.360guys, read your own tweets. And an outdoor rodeo. I mean, healthy people. I mean, let's just go
00:35:40.300back to common sense and the fact of how humanity dealt with these medical problems throughout
00:35:45.040history. We've known for decades, I don't know, centuries, that when people are sick, you stay
00:35:51.900home. But we've flipped it upside down to where no, anybody who's alive is a threat. And so they
00:35:58.080must stay home it's just unbelievable to me you talk about up is down down is is up and black is
00:36:04.820white and white is black dark is uh light and light is dark it's just crazy there's no truth
00:36:10.840in this and it's just so reprehensible that the the government after over a year wasn't in court
00:36:16.720to to demonstrate why we need to have these lockdowns and and it's just wrong that pastor
00:36:21.820James Coates at 35 days in jail that the people can't gather peacefully to worship the deity of
00:36:28.060their choice. This is just unacceptable stuff, Corey. And if you don't keep speaking out,
00:36:32.780I don't keep speaking out. If people don't keep coming to these protest rallies, peaceful. And I
00:36:37.260agree with you. We can't cross the line. We can't let the anger, the damage. I mean, it's just,
00:36:43.800you think of a mother who's lost her child because of suicide on this. How are they supposed
00:36:50.120to contain their rage when this has been done this has been happened to their family i mean it's just
00:36:55.480really brutal for those that are being hurt and like i say i'll go back to the thing until these
00:37:00.040individuals that make these choices to to strip away people's livelihood their freedoms their
00:37:05.720their opportunity to gather as family you know even you know the times we couldn't get together
00:37:10.760for funerals to visit our family they're sick in the hospital this is unbelievable until they strip
00:37:15.880that away and take their living their money their choice to meet family away don't don't be taking
00:37:22.880it away from someone else i'm sorry with with henshaw over three hundred thousand dollars a
00:37:27.180year and jason two hundred thousand with with everything else and then saying that oh it's
00:37:32.200justifiable because we're going to give a bunch of people two thousand dollars a month to stay home
00:37:36.400we can't afford it like you were saying early cost benefit analysis uh there's zero of that
00:37:41.780The tragedy of lost life? Absolutely. It's a tragedy. But as John Carpe put out, I think in court even, you know, that what is there, 300,000 Canadians that die every year, that they never have a baseline. They don't compare it to previous years. When have we ever gone on a witch hunt to see who's carrying the virus in the past? No, we've always treated symptoms. When the people were sick, we treat them.
00:38:07.120And now we don't know what the rates would have been.
00:38:09.700What would have been the cases every other year if this is what they did every year for influenza or the flu to see who in the general public is asymptomatic that is carrying it?
00:38:19.420Like this is all an all new game, new approach, and there's no baseline and there's no reason to do this.
00:38:26.240And again, they won't they won't look at the collateral damage.
00:38:29.040They won't even look at the economic damage, let alone the personal lives and the 22,000 surgeries that were canceled, that they won't follow up and give us any of those numbers.
00:38:55.480You can't just do that without having an impact somewhere else.
00:38:58.720And as you said, our protection is the Constitution. Our protection is the Charter. And our remedy, if it's been stepped on, is the courts. That's where we'll have a judge look at each side and do so. But, you know, it's been funny and others have noted it. Like I've been waiting for the summons to show up for the Western Standard or tie, but they desperately want to stay out of the courts with this.
00:39:19.280You know, we've seen that they'll bring it right to the edge of court date and they will drop the charges because I don't think they believe that it will withstand the scrutiny of an actual rational discussion in front of a judge.
00:39:31.240Well, worse than that, the judges that are allowing these things, like the judges are supposed to be that blind justice and people have not got their day in court.
00:39:41.200Withdrawing the charges the day before, making people suffer, prepare and do all of that and withdrawing the charge, that, I'm sorry, is wrong.
00:39:48.900the criminal negligence that is going on here. The judges are cowards. They're not standing up
00:39:54.540for the Constitution. It's what they're supposed to do. And again, it's interesting that I spoke
00:39:59.200with an individual yesterday and the light kind of went on in my head. And boy, sometimes we seem
00:40:03.700like we're pretty dull and it takes a long time before we see the light. But all of these people,
00:40:09.280they swear their allegiance to the crown. We don't swear it to the Constitution. And that's
00:40:13.820the problem it's not about the constitution it's about the crown and i'm sorry our courts and our
00:40:19.140judges are failing people and it's just unacceptable the judges have got to start standing up and
00:40:24.260realizing you know what these people have their day in court and bring your evidence to say that
00:40:28.700oh we'll wait till june we'll wait till july no the day after pastor coach was arrested he should
00:40:35.120have been able to have his first hearing before a judge and to see whether there was any evidence
00:40:39.680and what he was, what they were doing, and they failed to do it. It's just, Corey, I just, I can't
00:40:44.520believe it. I get way too worked up about this thinking on the, on what I want to call is the
00:40:48.800justice system for people, the rule of law. There is no rule of law right now. It's the rule of the
00:40:55.320courts, which is the rule of the government, which is wrong. I think a lot of people, unfortunately,
00:41:01.940maybe it's a failing of our educational system to a degree, but don't really understand the purpose
00:41:06.300and the basis of the Constitution and the Charter,
00:41:09.400they're not there to protect us from each other.
00:41:11.220They're not there to protect us from bugs.
00:41:12.760They're there to protect us from the government.
00:41:14.740The government should be coming to us on bended knee
00:41:17.940if they're going to ask to invoke Section 1 of the Charter
00:41:20.740to suspend rights and explain to us at length
00:41:33.000and this crisis is nowhere near as dire as requiring that.
00:41:36.300No. I mean, last year, April, what, April 8th, they posted, you know, 32,000 Albertans were going to die from COVID. It's embarrassing, the numbers that they've used. It's embarrassing as a province what they're doing to us. None of this is justified. And it's not even getting our consent. Like, you can't get consent from every individual. That's why you have individual rights.
00:42:00.580and we have that right for peaceful assembly we have that right you know to for freedom of speech
00:42:05.820and and again between the government between social media and the censoring that's going on
00:42:12.320all of those rights are being trampled and it's costing us dearly and again i agree with you it
00:42:16.860goes back to our education system people don't understand it i've been a long time advocate you
00:42:21.820and i have talked i think for 20 years about bastion and the law the law should be taught
00:42:26.860in grade 6, in grade 9, in grade 12. They need to be taught these fundamental principles that
00:42:33.640the foundation of humanity is based on and why we come together to protect one another as a group
00:42:38.940rather than just might is right, survival of the fittest has never worked. And you see around the
00:42:44.640world, people come together to form a civic union. Yeah, no, I'll follow further on that plug for
00:42:51.460people who aren't quite the political weenies that we are, but Bastia Law is short. You can
00:42:56.720Google it actually. And it's really the pure prime basis of individual rights. And it's laid out
00:43:02.860in good common sense language. You know, if you want to dig deeper into John Locke and all that,
00:43:07.640great. But for a nice quick shot of the real true basis of individual rights, that that
00:43:13.160paper is essential and it's long lost and forgotten by too many people. So I appreciate
00:43:21.080you you're bringing it up and so getting back it's just so important cory because you you hit
00:43:26.440the nail on the head it's about education it's about knowing better i mean the cognitive dissonant
00:43:31.240that's going on here people have got so much propaganda even now that they see the information
00:43:36.280they can't process it they just can't i i always like i think i shared this with you years ago
00:43:41.400that that picture of the old lady and inside that picture down below is a young lady that
00:43:47.560that's very vibrant and outgoing but yet most people will look at it and they'll see the old
00:43:52.320lady and again it goes back to those mosaics that you're saying you know what what's the little
00:43:56.140individual pictures and what's the big picture on these things but no it's very disheartening
00:44:01.700that the way that our education system has taken away rational thought for people to be able to
00:44:08.120read understand these things it's more propaganda than about teaching people and i want to say you
00:44:13.720know reading the classics of history that there's just so much great information out there like you
00:44:19.720say i don't know too many people who have read john locke that boy everybody like i say starting
00:44:24.860in grade six has the ability to read bastion and the law let alone the broken window and what is
00:44:29.800seen and what is not seen all of those great essays are just they're eye-opening if you'll
00:44:34.260read them and not be blind to it yeah and i mean for those who don't want to read all that well
00:44:40.020they got us you know to be able to get out there and encapsulate it and put out the importance but
00:44:44.260i really suggest that one because it's a good short one um getting back to the early part of
00:44:48.580this and a little bit of discussion like you know a little bit can be forgiven i think a year and
00:44:52.980change ago at least for the panic we didn't know what we were dealing with we there was fears there
00:44:57.140was people who genuinely believed that we were going to have tens of thousands of people dying
00:45:01.940in alberta and we hadn't had 14 months of experience to see otherwise so we're getting
00:45:06.420pretty darn concerned uh we found now that we've been in many senses fortunate as far as a pandemic
00:45:14.020will go that this thing typically only targets well i hate to say but people who are very vulnerable
00:45:18.820and then chances are we're going to pass pretty soon anyways and we don't want anybody passing
00:45:23.300any sooner than they absolutely have to that's that's part of our humanity we want to make sure
00:45:27.220that we can all live our lives as fully as humanly possible but those projections from back then
00:45:33.300were horrific they were terrible i mean people should be fired for how bad those were
00:45:37.460and then but again a little bit of forgiveness can be given back then but now we're getting into
00:45:42.18014 months later i mean and a few months ago did you see tam's rocket ship i mean this insane curve
00:45:47.060that went off the top of the chart again you should be fired for releasing something like
00:45:51.940that that is embarrassing a six-year-old with a crayon could do a better job than that and the
00:45:57.300provincial government is putting up models that are consistently garbage like that as well and
00:46:01.460And they're modeling their policy based on these still to this day.
00:46:04.860It is total fear mongering and trying to back up their ridiculous view on this.
00:46:11.020And, you know, this oppression that's going on has got to stop.
00:46:16.000And, again, the idea of tyranny of the majority is wrong.
00:46:20.420And I'm sorry, but this is a major fight for those few freedom fighters, those Alberta patriots that just say that enough is enough.
00:46:29.060But I am very nervous that they're going to keep, you know, just attacking.
00:46:34.480And again, on Saturday, what draconian measures are they going to try and take there?
00:46:38.500It's just unbelievable to me, the measures that they're taking, the doubling down time after time and the fear mongering.
00:46:44.860And yes, there's young people dying from this also.
00:46:48.340But they don't also talk about the young people that are dying from the vaccination and other things.
00:46:53.280And again, it's always a one sided story.
00:54:46.020I mean, Kenny's a master at articulating and making promises that are not to be held.
00:54:52.280I mean, even the fair deal panel, postpone, postpone the response, postpone the studies.
00:54:57.720I mean, we all knew that the study needed to be done or should have been done on the
00:55:02.160Alberta police force before March 31st to give notice.
00:55:05.360But again, when we're collecting our own taxes and doing all that and keeping the money here, we don't need to worry about a transfer back of one hundred and sixty million dollars for our own police forces.
00:55:14.180We'll have it. It's just pathetic the way he continues to to he doesn't even say the right things anymore.
00:55:22.280But again, it's all about we're going to study that these are all strategic plans on keeping people in line, hoping for a brighter day.
00:55:29.740and it's not going to happen he said that he he's a federalist and his his eye is not here in
00:55:36.440Alberta and he certainly didn't come back to Alberta for Albertans he came back for Jason
00:55:41.200Kenny and whatever his future desires are what he's aspiring to whether that's prime minister
00:55:47.140whether it's to be part of the global elite at the world economic forum I don't know where
00:55:51.440he's aspiring to but it certainly isn't a strong and free and sovereign Alberta
00:55:55.920Yeah, well, I mean, Kenny said recently that he's seeking a new base. So that's fine. You've made it clear. And you're providing a home for the old base. So I appreciate that. And a much more honest one. I can't see you turning around and suddenly becoming a hardcore federalist in six months or a year.
00:56:14.120something he has followed through on and again I think it took too long already but whatever
00:56:19.320we'll take what we can get is we're looking at an equalization referendum this fall which I think is
00:56:24.420a real opportunity though I mean it's a moment where we can have regional issues on the discussion
00:56:29.940table for a solid couple of months even if it's futility kind of to throw that against the wall
00:56:34.600the government will just tell us to roll it up and stuff it but the exercise in itself I think
00:56:39.340will be productive I mean for Albertans for organizing will the Wildrose Independence Party
00:56:43.980to be taking an active role in campaigning during that uh referendum campaign well we we will but
00:56:49.080again this is just another facade it's a distraction that this isn't what we should
00:56:54.580be having a referendum on and and it's wrong we should be having a referendum and ralph failed
00:56:59.800to do this and boy have we paid a price you know he had a balanced budget legislation had he passed
00:57:04.600a referendum on that stelmack couldn't have flipped that over and we couldn't have had these
00:57:09.280last 15 years of deficit spending because they would have had to have a referendum from the
00:57:15.100people. We need a referendum on recall. So legislation can't just be changed the day that
00:57:20.220they're in there and all of a sudden somebody's recalling, oh, we're going to change that
00:57:22.820legislation. There's important things that should be on a referendum. Having a discussion on
00:57:28.580equalization, we already know the outcome. We know Ottawa's response to that. This is a strategic
00:57:33.780plan to delay and strategize for an election policy. It isn't about putting Alberta in a
00:57:39.700strong position. And I'm sorry, I can't give him any credit saying he's going to have a referendum
00:57:45.140on equalization. Good grief. That's like having a referendum with your kids on whether they want
00:57:49.200to eat food or go to the candy store. There's nothing beneficial that I see in it other than
00:57:54.120it continues to keep people riled up and upset, which is a blessing because then we come to the
00:57:59.300realization that the best thing will be is that when Ottawa looks at it and says, oh, you guys
00:58:03.860aren't happy with equalization. Don't worry. Once you're broke and there's nothing left out there,
00:58:08.640we'll stop equalization because we're not going to be sending any money back after we've bled
00:58:12.840you to death. Yeah. Well, that's why I look at this reference though as a dress rehearsal. You
00:58:18.600know, let's get it right before the important one comes along, the real one, which we will not get
00:58:23.840out of the UCP. And we know that. And that's another area that ticked me off. As I said,
00:58:28.300I was supportive. I wrote a column recently. I mean, I really did have high hopes. I mean,
00:58:31.860we'd had four years of Notley. I wanted to see some good government. I did like where Kenny had
00:58:36.240been in Ottawa and his reform party time and his taxpayer time. And I've given up.
00:58:42.020Corey, I got to interrupt you there too. And I apologize. I was so excited. I mean,
00:58:47.240he had me so bamboozled. He talks the talk. He knows it. He understands it all. I was so excited.
00:58:53.320I thought, man, I will never have to spend another day in politics for the rest of my life.
00:58:57.760my expectations were way too high and so with that my greatest disappointments have been this
00:59:03.380I really thought that you know life is going to be great for Albertans he's going to stand up to
00:59:07.720Ottawa he knows about jobs he knows about the free market he knows about all these things he's talked
00:59:12.720about all these things for years but again the true test is always when you when you get to make
00:59:17.200the decision when you have the power then all of the you know the facades come off and we see the
00:59:22.120real individual. And I'm sorry, but Jason Kenney is not an Albertan. He doesn't care about Alberta.
00:59:29.060He's aspiring for something else. He talks about being compassionate, saying he's got to save lives.
00:59:34.700Well, then do the numbers, Jason. Look at the collateral damage and quit telling us about
00:59:39.140COVID. Give us the whole picture. I'm sorry. It's just unacceptable. And that's why we've got to
00:59:45.360have a Wildrose Independence Party. So people who believe in principles, who believe in justice,
00:59:50.180who believe in small government, who believe in freedoms. They have to have a place to go,
00:59:55.700Wildrose Independence Party. Yeah, well, one of the bait and switch moves he'd done
01:00:00.820was with the democratic reform. That was one of the things I was excited about because it takes
01:00:03.940the power out of the politicians and puts it into the electorate. And I spent countless agonizing
01:00:10.500hours as VP policy with the Wildrose Party in the past and things like that. We would argue back and
01:00:15.540forth and and tune and tone uh you know citizens initiated referendum policy and recall policy
01:00:21.300because it is you've got to find a balance you know you you have to make it achievable in a in
01:00:26.020the circumstance where enough people want it but you don't want it so somebody can do it on a whim
01:00:29.780or or just on a personal beef you know and when we saw the numbers and the requirements to get
01:00:35.700a recall uh initiated in alberta that's a joke that's all i can call is a joke it's an insult
01:00:43.380cory it's an absolute insult to albertans yeah so you put it out there and you make the bar
01:00:48.200impossible to achieve well then you might as well not even put it out there in the first place but
01:00:52.140it's it's again taking us for granted it's playing us for fools and the referendum legislation same
01:00:58.640thing you know what that that bar should be lower how much harm is there if we're going to hold
01:01:02.060these regularly what's the cost of having an extra line on that piece of paper yeah what's the benefit
01:01:08.280you know again going back to the cost band there's so many benefits to engage albertans
01:01:12.680Because that's our biggest problem is that people, and I understand that, people are so disgusted with government and politicians and the misleading and stuff.
01:01:35.880And I know that, you know, the independence movement, you know, has flared up in the past, the 70s, the 80s.
01:01:40.860This time it's for real. We're going to get it done. We're going to protect Albertans and we're going to protect our children and grandchildren's future. But more important, we're going to save those Albertans that are here today that want to work hard, that want to have a great place to raise your family, to work, to make a living and just do and enjoy life. We've got it all here if we just take it back from this government and their draconian measures.
01:02:04.380okay so somebody's asked the question it's unavoidable and i'm certain you've answered it
01:02:09.660many a time but it's one on a lot of people's minds and it's one thing we're very concerned
01:02:13.180about i mean the some people feel the only thing worse than a jason kitty government would be
01:02:16.860giving notley four more years so how do you address the question on vote splitting and
01:02:21.820the hazards that it may present well that that's the big question that's an important one but i
01:02:26.780guess my first questions were these individuals bill one will be one on accountability a recall
01:02:31.900bill that's there and what we need the question is on the voting and the voters day the ballot
01:02:37.320question should be am I going to vote for four more years of tyranny or am I going to vote for
01:02:41.920freedom and and that's got to be the ballot question am I going to vote for four more years
01:02:46.140of Ottawa and their dictates and their their policies are we going to vote for Alberta it
01:02:52.660just has to be am I going to vote for a government that's going to just insult us by saying that
01:02:58.560we're the ones in charge and shut us down that there is no vote splitting if you're going to do
01:03:04.000what's right and vote for albertans and for our constitution and our freedoms um i just don't see
01:03:10.320it as a problem other than the fear-mongering just like they do and with covid oh we we can't go out
01:03:15.500we can't do this we can't do that it's not about vote splitting it's about choosing and doing the
01:03:19.820right thing go to our website wildrose.party look at the principles there we're a principle-based
01:03:25.260party. We're going to protect individuals' rights, their freedoms, their property, and the other two
01:03:30.080governments aren't. And the question is, is, okay, with Jason, do you want to hit the wall going,
01:03:34.880you know, 50 miles an hour? Oh, and with Rachel, we get to hit at 100 miles an hour? I'm sorry,
01:03:40.260I realize that people get that, and good old Stelmac was the first one who used it effectively
01:03:48.200when he thought that Kevin Tath was going to defeat him. But do we want death by a thousand
01:03:54.000cuts we need to vote for the real thing where what's right and not be worried about vote
01:03:58.860splitting and and again go out there sell memberships build the party and we should
01:04:02.740have this over before the election comes yeah we can't sit and do nothing for fear of having a
01:04:09.380worse outcome i mean you'll just get that slow bad outcome no matter how much you want it to be
01:04:14.300i mean the the pcs devolved if we recall that was my very first time sitting in the gallery in the
01:04:19.500legislature remember that when you were alone mla in there when still mac threw it out there
01:04:23.780to uh recall the the the legislation for the balanced budget so that he could throw out a
01:04:30.660deficit after we've gone through all that work through the 90s to get a balanced budget still
01:04:34.980mac wanted to reverse course and borrow us and we've been borrowing ever since through ups and
01:04:40.100downs we need controls on government so they can't just legislatively toss it out there or they will
01:04:45.380get worse on us no matter what happens so uh you spoke of how things are organized so you know this
01:04:51.140is familiar turf to you too new parties getting on the ground at what stage are you guys you're
01:04:54.900getting constituency associations running there's going to be uh candidate nominations eventually
01:04:59.700things like that i imagine yeah it's exciting the the the our volunteers on the provincial
01:05:05.700board are just amazing they're trying to respond as quick as possible covid makes it difficult
01:05:10.580but this the silver lining is we're doing zoom meetings to form cas we're over i'm pretty sure
01:05:15.940sure we're over half the CAs are now constituted and up and running. And again, it's just going
01:05:22.100to keep going on. People are excited that the toughest thing that we're having is letting
01:05:26.960people be aware that we're out there. Most Albertans haven't heard of us. They're not
01:05:32.000aware of it. And it's that we need that word of mouth. We can't do it in the media, can't do it
01:05:38.220on social media in a lot of ways. We live in our own bubbles all the time. And so people have got
01:05:42.720keep reaching out and that old story you know do you want a million dollars or do you want us to
01:05:47.040give you one penny today and double it for a month let's just keep doubling our membership by word of
01:05:52.480mouth going to the website and and that's the exciting part of it but the growth is there
01:05:57.600jason kenney just continues to put the wind in our sail or fuel in our tank as does rachel and
01:06:03.520the prime minister and we've got to take advantage of it now yeah so uh getting out of the timeline
01:06:10.160then with the leadership race uh so when do the nominations close for that the 14th of may
01:06:17.120oh pretty quickly here okay a week assuming it's uh uh contested uh what are the timelines
01:06:25.600following up on that then then i i can't remember whether it starts on the second or the fourth of
01:06:30.240june and the voting will be the 27th of august okay and i'm going to go out on a limb i i haven't
01:06:36.560read and checked into it but it's going to be a one member one vote no uh crazed weighted by region
01:06:42.000or municipality or anything like that yeah you know it it yeah what what a attack on democracy
01:06:50.400with all of these uh crazy voting systems and whatever else the the real challenge is going to
01:06:55.520be with covet and whether or not we can get together at a convention how we're going to do
01:06:58.720it but always one member one vote good yeah well on the federal front we've seen the disappointment
01:07:04.640would happen when they've taken that and just just destroy the system and we've had two federal duds
01:07:09.200in a row i mean that's where it makes it clear if we're going to benefit ourselves we have to do it
01:07:14.160within alberta we're really kind of just pissing in the wind in ottawa corey you've been on the
01:07:20.160independent bandwagon a long time and you've understood it you're a libertarian you understand
01:07:25.120the importance of of protecting the individual and and it's individuals that build society and
01:07:30.800as individuals that need to be protected. And as soon as you say that this is for the benefit of
01:07:35.420the group, it isn't. It just never is. You can't sacrifice the individual and say it's the benefit
01:07:41.800for the group, that the individual needs to be that individual who wants to make that personal
01:07:46.220sacrifice and fight for our freedoms. Okay. So Todd's asking, there's an AGM
01:07:51.400scheduled for July or some sort of convention? Oh, no. I mean, we've had an individual who's
01:07:57.660put out an email that has stepped outside his area and the board will figure all this
01:08:04.180out. I have full confidence in the board, but no, there's no AGM in July.
01:08:08.940Okay. Well, those are the challenges and small party organization. I mean, the only things I
01:08:14.360can lend from past experience with people is, you know, keep patience. Not everybody always
01:08:18.580agrees. It's a formative time. Nothing kills, you know, an asset movement faster than infighting,
01:08:25.600You know, sometimes it takes a little compromise and you won't always get your way, but you often will.
01:08:31.580And as long as the voices are free, hopefully the interests of the Albertans and the party members will always rise to the top.
01:10:58.060This is about Alberta and our future, and I'm just excited to be part of this and going
01:11:03.720forward and actually respecting the individuals and the voters out there.
01:11:07.360And as you know, the number one thing for Paul Hinman has always been accountability through recall.
01:11:12.720I believe that if 20,000 people have voted in the last election, then you need 10,001 signatures over a four-month period to fire that individual.
01:11:21.060And without accountability, without balanced budgets, this carnage is going to carry on.
01:11:27.340And we've got to fight for people's freedom of assembly, freedom of speech.
01:11:30.520All of these things we know are necessary.
01:11:32.960and it's exciting to be back in the battle
01:11:35.240as much as I thought I'd never have to be here again.
01:11:38.780Great, well, thank you very much for doing the battle
01:17:54.880yeah and and parties have different rules about things like that i mean constituency association
01:17:58.640meetings might have some inside stuff going on whereas a town hall meeting is for the general
01:18:02.400public as i said these are the things you learn as you get involved with a party
01:18:06.560but it could be a good time it could feel productive and it's all good so getting back
01:18:12.080to other things we have a crazy weekend you know i i believe before my computer crashed i was on
01:18:17.840about the taxpayers federation they put out that thing with 4 000 uva employees had gotten raises
01:18:22.960in 2020. And now they've said that they're going to cut pay, but for non-academic staff. So yes,
01:18:30.640everybody else, I wanted to get back and I was going to tie that into my thoughts on left-wing
01:18:34.880elitism. So they realized we've got to cut corners. We've got to tighten our belts. So we're going to
01:18:39.320cut everybody at the university except the academic area. I mean, we got a bit of a double
01:18:47.060standard. And again, that's that thing, as I said, when some of them look down their nose,
01:18:49.940cause I drive Uber sometimes to make a few extra bucks. Uh, the, the, the academia or beyond pay
01:18:56.420cuts, I rest assured if you want to see some people drive a nice car or see a university
01:19:00.060prof sometime, you want to see some of the biggest houses in any city, look in the area surrounding
01:19:04.520the university. And, uh, often, yeah, they're the staff there. No, not the janitorial, not the food
01:19:09.720serving, not the, uh, people who are doing, uh, the, the, the other such things. It's the academics
01:19:15.080who are, will not be getting cut. So the taxpayers federation said, Hey guys, you should be, uh,
01:19:19.920taking a haircut too. You're no exception here. So do so. So, you know, just to put out with
01:19:28.080lobbying as well, the Taxpayers Federation, I've had Franco on a number of times. He's really good.
01:19:31.740He's outspoken. We're going into a period of rebuilding. I really hope we rebuild. We need
01:19:36.460some serious fiscal accountability. Inflation is probably going to be smoking us. Unemployment's
01:19:41.960going to be smoking us. The hospitality industry is getting the crap beaten out of it. I really
01:19:47.420hope people do go out and stand up for chris out mirror in the weekend and and we've got to push
01:19:52.540back you know if there's no pushing back the government will as i said earlier to paul go
01:19:56.840only one direction if they're only getting it from the pro lockdown pro business crushing pro
01:20:00.820welfare state group then that's the way they're going to move so we have to push back peacefully
01:20:05.860and rationally because we've got a lot of bills to pay and it's only getting worse for waiting
01:20:10.960i owned a pub for five years until just a year and some ago i i sold it and they're still at it
01:20:16.160and good on them and I try to support them how I can. But that's a tough business at the best of
01:20:20.340times. And what people are forgetting is a lot of these small businesses that are still hanging in
01:20:24.260there right now and good on them. What a year. Actually, the Federation for Independent Business
01:20:30.040put it out. I believe the average Alberta restaurant is over 300,000 in debt now from
01:20:35.700this last year, just this last year. That's how they're hanging in. Some of it's those government
01:20:40.400loans, programs, others, their own lines of credit. Smaller restaurants, you have to finance your own
01:20:45.440house. If you want to see a banker's butt tighten up fast, ask for money and let them know you own
01:20:51.180a restaurant. I assure you, they almost want to rip your credit card out of your wallet once they
01:20:55.500know you're in that business. They do not like lending money there. So these people have borrowed
01:20:58.840on every possible way they can to hang in there. And when things open up, it's not going to be
01:21:04.100like a light switch turns on their back in the money. They're in a lot of trouble. What is going
01:21:08.200to happen when they lose that wage subsidy for the staff that are in there? What's going to happen
01:21:11.260when they lose the rental subsidies? Because they're being heavily subsidized right now.
01:21:14.020So unfortunately, I hate to say it, you know, I'm pointing at the missing tile, but we're going to see a whole lot more businesses go under as soon as all those subsidies and programs end.
01:21:23.260They're just hanging in there by that.
01:21:25.900So we need to pressure areas to at least help with tax relief, get the government out of our face, deregulate things, and yes, spend less money.
01:21:34.300And that's where the Taxpayers Federation was coming in.
01:25:20.560And if you're a subscriber, you'll see it as soon as it gets up there on the site.
01:25:24.260So you can see the news break because, you know, the mainstream media is not going to give good coverage or whatever happens there this weekend.
01:25:30.180So we can get honest coverage from the Western Standard.