Western Standard - The Cory Morgan Show May 7, 2021

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00:02:00.000 Hey there, good morning.

00:02:16.220 Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show live on this Friday, May 7th.

00:02:22.860 Lots to talk about, lots to cover.

00:02:24.640 It looks like we're in for another crazy weekend as pandemic restrictions are cracking down ever tighter and rebelliousness is getting ever stronger from people.

00:02:35.460 No rodeos happening this week, but it looks like quite a standoff building over in Mirror at the Whistle Stop Cafe where Chris Scott, he's always been standing out against the lockdowns and he's just not backing down.

00:02:51.260 this is one heck of a stubborn guy and it looks like people are gonna you know be coming in there

00:02:55.180 but i'll come into that a little more see everybody saying good morning there morning

00:02:58.220 jake sandy robert leah and uh yeah glad to see people are watching besides my mom today

00:03:06.380 it's always appreciated we're doing well you know and i'll go on a bit of a ramble about the western

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00:03:41.840 We're truly becoming a Western publication.

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00:04:33.920 I post in there to mixed reviews from people.

00:04:36.380 So when I get into the show today, I'm going to have a live guest on.

00:04:38.600 it's going to be Paul Hinman. He's the interim leader of the Wildrose Independence Party. We'll

00:04:42.360 talk for a while. I've known Paul for a long time. He's always got some good, thoughtful things to

00:04:47.200 say. I saw him at the rodeo last weekend. Of course, he's got a lot to cover as things in

00:04:52.160 the provincial front warm up. The UCP is in a great deal of trouble. Brent says, thanks for

00:05:01.340 the ride the other day. Uber passenger? I don't know. Just so people know, yeah, I drive Uber

00:05:06.420 on the side. It gives great flexibility. It's the digital market. I like getting out. I like

00:05:10.280 talking to people. It's relaxing. And once in a while, I've picked up the odd lefty that said,

00:05:15.620 oh my God, I've discovered Corey Morgan's an Uber driver. You know, that's a funny thing. It'll

00:05:18.540 start me on a quick rant about the elitism of the left, you know, because they really are. They got

00:05:22.040 that sick double standard. Oh, we're for the working guy. We're for the working guy. And then

00:05:26.620 for my having dared to be an Uber driver to make a few extra bucks to get out of the house, to meet

00:05:30.620 with people, to socialize. I mean, I'm a crabby guy. You know, it's good for me to get around

00:05:33.660 people. I don't run the bar anymore. They expose it. Oh my God, he's an Uber driver. By the way,

00:05:38.660 lots of people reported my presence at the Rodeo to Uber trying to get me unemployed while they're

00:05:46.620 at it. It didn't work, guys. It doesn't work that way. So, you know, that elitism of the left is

00:05:54.100 just something to behold. I like exposing it. I like talking about it. I like putting it out

00:05:59.260 there. You know what? There's never been a bit of work I've ever done in my life that I'm ashamed

00:06:03.000 up. I'm not ashamed of being an Uber driver. That's good, honest work. Back when I was a pizza

00:06:06.780 delivery driver, when I was going to St. That was good, honest work. When I was a swamper for a

00:06:10.440 moving company, it was really painful, but it was good, honest work and my oil field time.

00:06:15.360 And this is honest work. As to where to donate to, you know, you can go WesternStandardOnline.com.

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00:06:26.220 sponsor us and all sorts of things. And with these digital broadcasts, you know, we've got Nathan

00:06:30.420 uh uh gita doing things on on tuesday wednesday thursday in the same time slot as me it's really

00:06:36.560 been developing that that kid can really talk he's a smart smart guy worth tuning into and

00:06:41.540 he's really developing our bc base there out in prince george um and where are we here

00:06:48.480 wish it was a longer drive to airdrie because the convo was so good ah okay i'm remembering you now

00:06:53.360 right on so you know i've got some stuff so here we go let's get into the news uh speaking of that

00:06:59.160 elitism. I saw it just today. The Taxpayers Federation, you know, I have Franco on all the

00:07:03.020 time and others from there. They've put out a thing saying, all you of A employees need to

00:07:07.560 take a pay cut. You know, we're starting to come into the pandemic realities. We've got the bills

00:07:11.840 to pay. We're in huge deficits in debt. We're going to have to raise taxes or cut spending.

00:07:17.620 We don't necessarily have to raise taxes. That's a separate discussion. But those discussions are

00:07:20.760 finally starting as this pandemic wanes. And it is waning, guys. You know, I won't get into the

00:07:26.000 side on the benefits or non-benefits of vaccinations, but I do believe the vaccinations

00:07:32.020 are helping take care of this and will get us behind us, but we've got years of cleanup to deal

00:07:35.880 with it. And what the Taxpayers Federation found was that while the rest of us were tight in our

00:07:40.440 belts, many of us were unemployed, underemployed, and a lot of fiscal trouble, 4,130 U of A employees

00:07:46.820 got pay raises during 2020. I mean, not only did they not lose any income. See, the pro-lockdown

00:07:51.640 people always have secure incomes you know it's easy to tell someone else to

00:07:55.160 go to work it's easy to tell someone else to shut down their business

00:07:58.200 it's easy to tell someone else to lay off their staff to bounce their checks if

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00:09:51.640 Let me get you myself back in there. Yeah, you lost sound, you lost everything. I'm afraid my computer decided that it was a good time to reboot there. Maybe it's that Bill Gates conspiracy. He's, you know, I don't use Apple products. So Microsoft shut me down there. I doubt Bill really gives that much of a crap. Sorry about that. Thanks. This is some of the joys of live broadcast. More reasons to sponsor. I can buy a better computer down the road and this will happen less often.

00:10:19.820 So thanks for those of you who are still there.

00:10:23.180 And of course, now I lost my stream.

00:10:24.340 I was just getting that head of steam up and getting the vein in my head pulsing.

00:10:28.520 Somebody had asked earlier about whether or not we're covering things at the Whistle Stop

00:10:34.760 this weekend with Chris Scott there.

00:10:39.440 And yes, we are.

00:10:40.400 And we've got Nadine Wellwood on with us.

00:10:43.940 She's joined our team.

00:10:44.940 She's going to be going out there in person and she's going to be talking to people, observing

00:10:48.640 things uh interviewing some folks and and filming stuff and we'll be putting those updates up as the

00:10:54.440 weekend moves along so this is going to be breaking it's interesting so the government

00:10:58.920 i mean they've been cornered jason kenney's backed into a corner the rodeo embarrassed him

00:11:03.760 and uh it led to that uh absurd statement to his caucus where he he said you know if that's my base

00:11:11.200 i want a new base um quit the vanity because there's no base waiting for you jason there's

00:11:16.740 nobody else waiting. These are the people who put you there. We are the people who put you there.

00:11:22.140 So when you turn your back on us, you're going to discover there's no other base. What did you

00:11:26.060 think? You opened a door and base number two is sitting there? You're hooped, Kenny. Who's going

00:11:30.380 to vote for you? You think the NDP is going to convert? These guys are lunatics. They're not

00:11:33.260 coming around. But either way, the spot that he's in, and fair enough, you know, the rodeo caused

00:11:39.740 embarrassment. They, to my knowledge, I haven't seen any charges. You know, some people have been

00:11:43.540 saying I should be charged, that Derek should be charged, and of course, Ty Northcott should be

00:11:47.580 charged. No charges yet. So there's pressure coming from all sides. Of course, you know,

00:11:53.120 Notley's doing cartwheels. She wants to jail everybody. You know, there were some great, 1.00

00:11:57.380 again, speaking of leftist hypocrisy going on, Rachel Notley, where the hell it was like that?

00:12:06.900 Yes, somebody pulled up a tweet, and thank you very much for it, from the Black Lives Matter 0.71

00:12:11.400 protests when thousands and thousands of people, actually it wasn't Notley, it was Nenshi, but I

00:12:16.040 mean leftist hypocrites, they all kind of sound the same sometimes, and Nenshi was thanking the

00:12:20.600 Calgary police for looking the other way on people not social distancing during the protests with 0.99

00:12:29.200 Black Lives Matter. Well, Nenshi, so right now he's been trying to chide judges and talk to them and

00:12:35.740 tell them what to do and how to do their job. Thankfully, I don't think they care what Nenshi

00:12:38.940 thinks. But he's saying that these judges have got to crack down harder, and they got to convict

00:12:43.800 more, and they got to move ahead. And again, we don't want to go down the road of where elected

00:12:47.840 officials tell our judges what to do. I mean, it's all tied together. Elected officials end up

00:12:53.380 appointing judges and so on. But there's a reason for that arm's length independence of the courts.

00:12:57.760 And we sure don't want some hysteric jerk off like Nahed Nenshi telling judges when they should 0.97

00:13:02.700 convict and when they shouldn't. But either way, there were no charges to date on the whole rodeo 0.97

00:13:08.740 thing. But what they did do was come in on Chris Scott's place in Mirror, the Whistle Stop Cafe,

00:13:14.480 and they changed the locks. They kicked him out of it. They fenced it in. They've sought an

00:13:19.080 injunction in advance. So this way they've said already, they've laid their legal ducks in a row

00:13:23.980 that we are going to charge people for protesting, for gathering, for doing anything at the Whistle

00:13:30.800 stop now people who are very heavily opposed of course to the restrictions to the lockdowns

00:13:35.600 that's not going to stop them from coming out there it's just ticking them off further this

00:13:40.000 you know is a scene from last week's rodeo by the way look at that beautiful picture now how

00:13:43.680 alberta does it get not to mention of course the western standard there in the background we did

00:13:47.200 sponsor that event it was a good time uh by the way hospitalizations went down a little bit the

00:13:52.720 The other day, ICU admissions were flatlined, I believe.

00:13:58.180 And yes, a handful of people died.

00:14:00.660 But you know what?

00:14:01.120 We seem to be on the tail end of this thing.

00:14:03.180 But the media will always report on the most tragic and frightening of the aspects of things.

00:14:10.480 So when people go out this weekend, and some will, and they're going to protest, though,

00:14:15.060 at Chris Scott's site against the lockdowns, against his business being chained shut,

00:14:19.660 they respect and appreciate his standing up for his business like that please be sane you know

00:14:27.900 please be rational I understand we get upset I understand that you know we're frustrated I

00:14:36.380 understand we fear a dictatorship and these are realistic fears and we've got the state encroaching

00:14:41.060 too much but we've got to sideline the lunatics okay because it's not doing any favors these are

00:14:47.220 the ones that Nenshi wants to point to and Notley wants to point to. These are the ones they want to

00:14:52.020 use for an excuse to keep cracking down on us. And we can't let them keep doing that. So when it comes,

00:14:59.140 I mean, we saw in the news recently, I'll start with, it sounds like maybe they were just playing

00:15:03.240 around with them. It was almost like a 4chan sort of thing. They were going to go protest at the

00:15:07.260 superstore downtown. They were organizing online to go inside and then take off their masks and

00:15:12.280 force the staff to deal with it. This will not win public sympathy. Having innocent grocery

00:15:18.440 clerks and security staff and everything, having to deal with people protesting within that

00:15:24.800 business is not helping. It makes the anti-mask, anti-lockdown, anti-restriction people look crazy

00:15:32.560 and it makes them look intolerant and it gives ammunition to the people who want to crack down

00:15:37.520 honest further so please when you go out this weekend those of you who probably are just

00:15:42.480 maintain control be rational we can win this while being calm we can win this while being polite you

00:15:48.660 know so just because you can doesn't mean you should it's one of my favorite sayings and you

00:15:52.600 know I've not always been the best with that you know when I get myself into trouble with my stunts

00:15:57.020 but then there's things like this hit the news recently you know so what the hell is this now

00:16:03.100 this goes into a bigger discussion. So it's some clown up North Edmonton a few hours thought 0.92

00:16:07.540 putting a Nazi Hitler youth flag up on his property would be a good idea. I don't know 0.83

00:16:12.700 if he thought it was funny. Maybe he really is a Nazi, you know, which is pretty disgusting, 0.99

00:16:16.600 but they exist. I mean, we saw them in Charlottesville, you know, which tells you, 0.95

00:16:20.560 I mean, the amount of Nazis out there, neo-Nazis, old Nazis are minor, minor, minor amount of people,

00:16:24.920 you know, the United States has a few hundred million people. They gathered all their Nazis 0.60

00:16:29.680 at Charlottesville, and it amounted to a few hundred. That means there's like one in a million 0.65

00:16:33.120 real Nazis. But still, those few Nazis are repugnant. They're disgusting. They're holding 1.00

00:16:38.200 up symbols of things, of a time, of just a gross period in modern human history of literal genocide, 0.51

00:16:46.820 of targeting of Jewish people, gay people, gypsies, you name it. I mean, it was just gross. And to see 0.93

00:16:51.560 people putting up that flag and celebrating it is disgusting. Now, the RCMP becoming involved and

00:16:58.700 so on that that's a bigger discussion you know I mean should we come down on every symbol that

00:17:03.280 seems I mean that was a low-hanging fruit it's pretty easy everybody's disgusted with the Nazis

00:17:07.460 everybody rational but once you start down that road of policing symbols and so on I mean we're

00:17:13.300 seeing now when people go haywire over a piece of string or rope that might look like it's a noose 0.95

00:17:17.900 even but you see when you get wankers like that guy who sticks a Nazi flag out on his lawn 0.94

00:17:23.000 he empowers the control freaks. He gives the ones who are lobbying government to crack down 0.94

00:17:29.540 on our speech, to crack down on our expression, to crack down on our ability to rationally push

00:17:34.520 back against government controls. Guys like whoever that idiot was who put his Nazi flag out 1.00

00:17:39.360 there is the best friend of the control freaks. So, I mean, as Crimson Sousal there is it, 1.00

00:17:47.980 respectful disobedience is stronger than throwing it fit. That's it. And yeah, it's disobedience. 0.75

00:17:53.380 It's civil disobedience. It's disobeying the law. I understand that. And that means people are going

00:17:58.820 to get heated and they're going to speak up and they're going to be at times upset, but we can do

00:18:04.680 it respectfully. We don't have to be like the screaming left that smashes windows and spray

00:18:09.400 paints buildings and do those things. Is peaceful protest really working? Well, Leah, maybe it's

00:18:17.440 not working. But I tell you what, smashing things up, it'll make it worse. So we've got to influence,

00:18:25.780 you know, what we got to reach out to is the population in general. Politicians want to keep

00:18:30.160 their jobs. If they fear for their jobs, they will change their tune. And when you alienate

00:18:37.620 the majority of people, when you upset the majority of people, when you tick them off,

00:18:42.260 The politicians will go with the majority, not you.

00:18:46.460 You know, Jason Kenney has some very strong opposition coming up from within his caucus.

00:18:50.060 And some of it, most of it is because those MLAs are principled people who don't want more crackdowns.

00:18:56.460 But some of it also is just because they fear for their jobs because they are in the rural areas and they know they won't be reelected.

00:19:04.680 They won't be reelected if we keep these crackdowns. 0.97

00:19:07.360 So they want to save their own butt. 0.91

00:19:08.260 Well, as long as we make more MLAs feel that way, then, you know, we can have an influence on them. 0.97

00:19:15.820 Peaceful civil disobedience, as Brenda's saying, you know.

00:19:20.680 I mean, this one here, the fellow with that Nazi flag was probably trying to show what we're becoming. 0.87

00:19:25.600 Moo. 0.75

00:19:25.940 Well, the point was lost.

00:19:29.140 The point was lost. 1.00

00:19:30.200 All it showed was some asshole who looks like he's a Nazi, which, you know, people, again, you know, they gleefully report on the CBC. 1.00

00:19:36.980 look at those Albertans. They got Nazis rising up out there. I mean, think a little harder. We can 1.00

00:19:43.220 push back without crossing those lines because it ruins the discourse and we need discourse. We need

00:19:50.840 to be rational here, guys, even if we're worked up. Ed's saying they'll probably block the highway

00:19:57.140 around the whistle stop. Possibly, you know, but that's a big main highway. I mean, how far will

00:20:01.020 you detour people? It's going to be interesting to see what Nadine observes out there. As I said,

00:20:06.060 will be posting those videos as things happen up there as we can throughout the weekend. Again,

00:20:11.760 I'm just hoping it's peaceful, you know, and people out there can make a point that that's

00:20:15.740 the main thing here. So getting on to some of the other stuff. See, not everything is a hate crime.

00:20:20.660 As I said, you know, the guy who put the Nazi flag up, I doubt he's a goose stepping Nazi party

00:20:25.980 member for some party organization, who knows? I think he's just a twit. But it empowers those 1.00

00:20:32.080 people who call everything a hate crime, everything. And Linda Slobodian, you might remember her name.

00:20:37.880 She was with Sun Media and a number of areas for a long time. She covered, we might have seen the

00:20:47.660 video of it. It was a swarming of a bunch of kids really beating down on a black kid. And people, 1.00

00:20:53.180 of course, immediately assumed it was a hate crime. When it was investigated, while it was

00:20:57.560 a pretty odious situation. They didn't feel that there was a hate crime behind it. I mean,

00:21:04.800 it's of concern for sure. I'm pulling up another story here. But we can't let them always call

00:21:14.180 everything a hate crime. What we've got is some out of control kids, I think, and doing some very

00:21:18.200 dangerous things. Swarming is scary. But again, when we keep giving them the room to call everything

00:21:24.020 hate crime to call everything racism they will take advantage of it and to our detriment it will

00:21:29.940 not help us so i i wanted to uh pull up this story which was quite interesting it's called

00:21:36.660 the liberals who can't quit lockdown it's in the atlantic you know i don't read left-wing

00:21:41.220 publications all that often but this one was outstanding a a friend of mine sent it to me

00:21:48.020 that's what i mean with with being thoughtful you know because not everybody is necessarily

00:21:52.100 polarized. If we talk and we work on things, we can get some reasonability into others. So I'm

00:21:58.520 going to read a bit through this. It's called In the Atlantic, a left-wing thing says, progressive

00:22:02.360 communities have been home to some of the fiercest battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal

00:22:06.700 policy makers have left the science behind. See, even some people on the left are figuring it out

00:22:13.400 and they're talking about it. And if we can talk with each other, we can all work together and

00:22:17.140 realize that, you know, things have gone too far, things are getting unhealthy. And some of the

00:22:23.920 things covered in that article, again, I would suggest you look it up, it's well worth a read.

00:22:27.960 So, you know, if you type Google the Atlantic and science denial, and you'll find this. So,

00:22:34.060 I mean, it's showing a particularly when schools were being reopened. I mean, that's a big battle

00:22:38.640 in the States, you know, infections, deaths, everything are going down heavily down in the

00:22:42.740 States. I mean, it's doing great. They're coming out of this thing. But what's going on? Well,

00:22:47.140 People want to get their kids back to school. Kids are safe. You know, we know that from this virus. It certainly doesn't hit healthy children. Most of the Americans are getting vaccinated. Their numbers are going down. But the battle is raging. There's a couple of fronts to it. Part of it's the unions, of course. I mean, the teachers unions have loved these, you know, vacations where they can sit at home and do online learning with the kids and shut down to have a paid quarantine every now and then when they want to take a break from even that. All you have to do is say you had a sniffle.

00:23:12.400 But some of those discussions and it's laid out in the Atlantic where a woman was called a white supremacist and it was said it was part of a white supremacy move to want to reopen schools.

00:23:24.220 Like it's bizarre.

00:23:25.820 It's absurd.

00:23:26.440 But that's how heated it's getting. 0.82

00:23:28.140 And that's how ridiculous it's getting. 0.53

00:23:30.720 And how can we have a rational discussion? 1.00

00:23:34.480 But again, you see, when we get idiots putting up a Nazi flag, we give these idiots who call everybody racist that they disagree with ammunition. 0.99

00:23:41.320 So that's I'm saying, let's keep our side rational, you know, and in this article talks about how scolding has become a national pastime, you know, we want to wag our fingers at people. And again, that's what the left loves doing. They love wagging their fingers, you know, you're bad, you're nasty. Well, don't give them that don't give them that ability. And again, read that article, some of them do feel it's gone too far. They feel it's time to look at the science. 1.00

00:24:08.880 I mean, we're moving on to this insane zero-risk model.

00:24:13.100 We really are.

00:24:13.600 They think we're going to get to a point somehow where nobody will ever die.

00:24:18.020 Don't call me insane for saying that.

00:24:19.260 It's true.

00:24:19.880 We're down to one or two people a day out of 4.4 million passing from this disease,

00:24:24.940 and people still feel it justifies locking up the other 4.4 million.

00:24:29.360 You know, 75 people a day on average die in Alberta of other causes.

00:24:34.420 We can't stop them all.

00:24:36.000 and with these guys model you know I'll give the analogy I mean I mean what do we've got you know

00:24:41.460 two or three people a day on average throughout the year get killed in car accidents probably

00:24:46.040 dozens who get injured with long-term damages caused to them by it the only way to stop it

00:24:52.160 would be to ban cars so why don't we why don't we put the speed limit down to 10 percent of what it

00:24:57.800 was because we have to be reasonable we have to take a reasonable expectation of risk every time

00:25:03.000 you step outside of your home. You're taking a chance on the elements. You're taking a chance

00:25:07.760 on the world. You might die. You might pick up an obscure virus and get killed. You might get

00:25:13.300 smacked by a car. You might have a freak blimp accident that's going to follow this guy and

00:25:17.180 squash you. You make that decision in the morning. And you know, you don't take unnecessary risks.

00:25:23.560 That's where, again, you use some intellect while you're at it. You know, when you know there's a

00:25:28.360 risk. When you know you're doing something dangerous, don't do it. And it's not being

00:25:33.240 too cruel to say that nobody wants to have that discussion, but it's not being too cruel to say

00:25:38.640 that we have to draw a line between the risk and the expense. I mean, seriously, and I know it

00:25:45.700 sounds like an extreme, but it's showing the extreme end of the line. Let's say we somehow

00:25:50.380 spent the money, spent the training, did everything to put a trained paramedic on every busy street

00:25:56.040 corner in the country it really would save some people it would stop some overdoses it would be

00:26:02.440 an immediate responder to accidents i mean there were definitely you would be able to measure a

00:26:07.080 number of lives saved so why don't we do it well because we can't afford it it's not realistic it's

00:26:12.760 way out of bounds i mean so that's where we find that balance we try to determine what we can afford

00:26:18.600 and how much services we can provide that's why we have emergency stations strategically

00:26:23.400 distributed to be as reasonably close to the scene of an emergency as they can, but we can't

00:26:29.180 put them everywhere. And it'll be an ongoing discussion. Maybe sometimes we won't be erring

00:26:34.060 enough on the side of safety and we do need to move more so there. But we've moved this on to

00:26:38.640 the pandemic. I'm getting fearful with this. When will they back off? You know, how low will the

00:26:45.380 numbers have to go? One person dying a week and still we keep the lockdowns? Because that's what

00:26:50.960 it feels like with a number of them. At some point, we actually have to say we're at a point

00:26:56.580 of acceptable risk. Yes, some people are still going to get infected. Some people are still

00:27:00.740 unfortunately going to pass away. Fewer and fewer are doing so though. And it's not being unreasonable.

00:27:05.960 It's not being cruel. It's not being that cold to say so. In fact, we have to say so. And not

00:27:11.660 enough people are saying it. You know, the media reports on it and that's what gets tiresome. And

00:27:16.120 that's why I love working with the Western Standard because we can cover other things.

00:27:19.780 I attended an online lecture a few days ago, and it was interesting.

00:27:23.960 Actually, it was a rabbi talking, and he showed a wall, you know,

00:27:28.900 and questioned all of us who were in the lecture.

00:27:31.360 This wall had tiles all over, little tiny square tiles, and one tile was missing.

00:27:35.060 And he asked everybody just to comment, what do you notice first thing on that wall?

00:27:38.660 About 1,000 tiles and one little tile missing.

00:27:40.520 And you know what?

00:27:40.980 Everybody, of course, pointed out the missing tile.

00:27:43.320 He said, yes.

00:27:44.400 So 99% of the wall is perfectly fine, but your eyes are immediately drawn to the bad one.

00:27:50.100 And when you get the media with 99% of the world is fine, but they will always highlight the bad one.

00:27:56.020 And that's all you see.

00:27:57.000 That's the only wall you see.

00:27:58.620 It's all you see is the negative, the negative, the negative.

00:28:01.900 And that pushes us to push the politicians further.

00:28:04.640 What we saw with the lockdown right now, I don't think it's going to have a darn thing to impact on the infections and the virus.

00:28:11.780 We've seen enough around the world.

00:28:13.120 This thing flares up and goes down, and I don't think governments really have much control over it whatsoever.

00:28:17.840 But there's a mental attitude we've all taken on where we feel the government is responsible for everything.

00:28:22.740 The government has to coddle us, the government has to take care of us, and we somehow believe that the government can fix everything, unfortunately, and they can't.

00:28:30.360 But then they feel obligated to do something.

00:28:32.760 That's what happened is we had a crackdown because he wanted to look like he's doing something.

00:28:36.560 Looking like you're doing something is actually in some ways more important than actually doing something.

00:28:43.120 But we have to push back. As I said, as I finished this first half hour ramble before I get to Paul Hinman here, we've got an opportunity this weekend. We've got a time when Albertans can show that they've had enough and they will stand up for our individual rights and for our neighbor's rights. But we've got to do it calmly, rationally, you know, orderly. Don't cross that line. The people who want to lock us down further want you to cross that line. They want you to look crazy. They want you to look irrational.

00:29:10.900 We are emotional.

00:29:12.080 We have had businesses lost.

00:29:14.100 We're stressed.

00:29:15.020 We're fearful.

00:29:15.680 We're seeing our rights being taken away.

00:29:17.460 But we can push back without crossing the line.

00:29:22.040 So let's do so.

00:29:23.340 And again, we'll look forward to that coverage from Nadine.

00:29:25.060 So that's enough out of me for a bit.

00:29:26.780 I'm going to get Paul in here for a while.

00:29:29.440 So I don't believe I've had, I've interviewed Paul before for podcasts and known Paul for

00:29:34.560 a long time.

00:29:35.360 I don't believe I've had you on this show yet though, Paul.

00:29:38.120 This is my first, Corey, and really appreciate the work you're doing, and independent journalists can't give you enough credit for what you individuals are doing.

00:29:47.800 Yeah, well, and it was great seeing you last weekend at the rodeo there. You came out and you attended and you talked to a lot of people. You know, it's hard. I mean, I do understand why some elected officials didn't show up at it. I mean, it is technically something that's illegal. There is a line of principle now.

00:30:04.120 elected officials can still participate in civil disobedience, but there's a very, very heavy price

00:30:07.860 they're going to pay for it at that time. And I think none were ready to pay that price yet at

00:30:11.700 this point, or at the least they'd be thrown out into the corner of being an independent MLA. And

00:30:17.020 you remember that lonely corner all too well, where you would sit and model your one question

00:30:23.700 every week or two and, you know, try and corner the press during the scrums afterwards to see if

00:30:29.060 wanted to talk to you so and you did a fantastic job with the little uh the little amount of time

00:30:34.900 that they gave you so i appreciate it and in your masochistic way you're still at the politics you're

00:30:39.700 still pushing you're the interim leader of the wilders independence party and you are running for

00:30:45.300 full leadership now yeah they've started they've opened up nominations for the leadership race i'm

00:30:50.660 out trying to gather signatures sell memberships and raise money so i can have enough money to join

00:30:56.500 in the race. Excellent. Yeah. Well, and I, uh, you know, and I want to get into a bit of that

00:31:01.420 as, as we go, but maybe we'll start though, just with where things are with the pandemic. You've

00:31:05.680 been the, like one of the things, and it's funny that the left went wild with it. I did actually

00:31:10.000 talk with Jason Kinney for half an hour on a podcast last fall. He gave me some one-on-one

00:31:14.060 time and, uh, the left-wing media got very upset because I started with the questioning and I said,

00:31:18.960 part of the issue, what I see is you're only getting opposition from one side. You're only

00:31:23.540 hearing from the left. You need to be pushed on each side if we're going to actually find a

00:31:27.560 middle. That's the role of opposition. That's the role of democracy. And the left-wing media went

00:31:31.580 wild because what they thought I meant was that there was only left-wing media, which there's

00:31:36.040 some truth to that. But no, what I meant was in the legislature, there's only NDP. So every

00:31:40.820 question is always going to come from the NDP point of view. We don't have a conservative

00:31:45.800 opposition. So you're kind of the informal leader of the conservative opposition in Alberta right

00:31:50.240 now uh you and drew barnes there's really even more levels of informal i guess you could say

00:31:54.340 yeah well i don't know drew barnes that walks a funny walk i can't quite tell how you know where

00:32:00.480 the wind's blowing he's got this fine line and an art of being able to say he's not crossed over

00:32:05.600 the line and jason certainly doesn't want to kick out those few but i i got to back up and say that

00:32:10.420 no that there should have been mlas that were there at the rodeo when they say that we're

00:32:14.440 breaking the law no they're breaking the constitution cory it's you know that this is an

00:32:19.460 edict by the government saying, oh, we have to have this fear mongering. Somebody's going to die.

00:32:25.680 And they've taken it completely out of context. They won't give people their day in court.

00:32:29.820 It's just unbelievable the carnage that they're causing and saying that, no, there's nothing

00:32:34.820 wrong. This is like stopping something, you know, on the major highway and causing major accidents

00:32:40.240 and saying, well, but we saved the rabbit that was crossing the road. No, there's carnage here,

00:32:45.620 collateral damage the the individual attacks on the on on people's living on their livelihood

00:32:51.620 i i'm sorry cory you got to back up and it's not about public opinion or anything else this is

00:32:58.540 about individual lives this is about our constitution that's supposed to protect those

00:33:03.640 unless it's demonstrably justified and you want to talk about people breaking the laws let's talk

00:33:08.880 about the highest law on the land the constitution which has just been shredded even our prime

00:33:13.620 minister says, I'm not worried about constitutional rights. It's very clear they're not. It's wrong.

00:33:20.140 They're on the wrong pathway. And we need Albertans to rally. We need them to show up at the whistle

00:33:25.160 stop tomorrow and say, this is wrong, Premier. This is wrong, Hinshaw. This is wrong, Chandra.

00:33:30.520 This is wrong, Rachel. You can't do this to people's lives. And until those individuals

00:33:35.280 give up as much as what they're stripping away from other people, I have zero respect for these

00:33:40.520 people. It's wrong. And it's time they stand down. And what their job is, is to give us the best

00:33:45.740 information, which again, as you've pointed out, Corey, it's Main Street Media. This is group think,

00:33:50.960 you're not allowed to think. And the very first thing in our fundamental freedoms is our

00:33:54.900 conscience. And we're not allowed to use it. Oh, no, it's not about conscience. It's about

00:34:00.920 coerciveness. These people must do this. If you don't do this, oh, you're hurting society.

00:34:05.320 The fear mongering is unreal, and it's unacceptable. And I'm sorry, I get really

00:34:09.580 upset when I started thinking about it. And the mothers that I've met that have lost kids to

00:34:13.520 suicide and so much carnage. And these people just focus, like you say, that one little tile

00:34:19.080 on the wall, get real people, get real. Yeah. Well, I had a computer crash that you missed out

00:34:26.320 on and I had everything lined up to be able to read these articles. As I said, if you find a

00:34:30.500 time, read this one from the Atlantic, you know, I know I rarely direct people towards a left-wing

00:34:34.740 publication, but it's talking about the liberals who can't quit the lockdowns. Like they've turned

00:34:38.740 this into a hill to die on and they just can't seem to back off and the divisiveness the

00:34:44.580 polarization and the hysteria you know i i've been a somewhat public personality for some years now

00:34:50.900 and i'm one who likes stirring people up i mean i troll online i troll in person i work them up

00:34:56.060 my skin is thick i don't sweat it but the last weekend cory it's what i love about you and jane

00:35:01.680 Yeah, Jane puts up with a whole lot, bless her.

00:35:06.260 Yeah, but, you know, I never saw vitriol like I saw last weekend.

00:35:12.200 Like, holy cow, the amount of obscenities, wishes for my death, you know, calls for my arrest, calls for my conviction, people wishing my family to be sick.

00:35:26.420 All of this because I was, yeah, because I was tweeting live from a rodeo, from a rodeo.

00:35:31.360 guys, read your own tweets. And an outdoor rodeo. I mean, healthy people. I mean, let's just go

00:35:40.300 back to common sense and the fact of how humanity dealt with these medical problems throughout

00:35:45.040 history. We've known for decades, I don't know, centuries, that when people are sick, you stay

00:35:51.900 home. But we've flipped it upside down to where no, anybody who's alive is a threat. And so they

00:35:58.080 must stay home it's just unbelievable to me you talk about up is down down is is up and black is

00:36:04.820 white and white is black dark is uh light and light is dark it's just crazy there's no truth

00:36:10.840 in this and it's just so reprehensible that the the government after over a year wasn't in court

00:36:16.720 to to demonstrate why we need to have these lockdowns and and it's just wrong that pastor

00:36:21.820 James Coates at 35 days in jail that the people can't gather peacefully to worship the deity of

00:36:28.060 their choice. This is just unacceptable stuff, Corey. And if you don't keep speaking out,

00:36:32.780 I don't keep speaking out. If people don't keep coming to these protest rallies, peaceful. And I

00:36:37.260 agree with you. We can't cross the line. We can't let the anger, the damage. I mean, it's just,

00:36:43.800 you think of a mother who's lost her child because of suicide on this. How are they supposed

00:36:50.120 to contain their rage when this has been done this has been happened to their family i mean it's just

00:36:55.480 really brutal for those that are being hurt and like i say i'll go back to the thing until these

00:37:00.040 individuals that make these choices to to strip away people's livelihood their freedoms their

00:37:05.720 their opportunity to gather as family you know even you know the times we couldn't get together

00:37:10.760 for funerals to visit our family they're sick in the hospital this is unbelievable until they strip

00:37:15.880 that away and take their living their money their choice to meet family away don't don't be taking

00:37:22.880 it away from someone else i'm sorry with with henshaw over three hundred thousand dollars a

00:37:27.180 year and jason two hundred thousand with with everything else and then saying that oh it's

00:37:32.200 justifiable because we're going to give a bunch of people two thousand dollars a month to stay home

00:37:36.400 we can't afford it like you were saying early cost benefit analysis uh there's zero of that

00:37:41.780 The tragedy of lost life? Absolutely. It's a tragedy. But as John Carpe put out, I think in court even, you know, that what is there, 300,000 Canadians that die every year, that they never have a baseline. They don't compare it to previous years. When have we ever gone on a witch hunt to see who's carrying the virus in the past? No, we've always treated symptoms. When the people were sick, we treat them.

00:38:07.120 And now we don't know what the rates would have been.

00:38:09.700 What would have been the cases every other year if this is what they did every year for influenza or the flu to see who in the general public is asymptomatic that is carrying it?

00:38:19.420 Like this is all an all new game, new approach, and there's no baseline and there's no reason to do this.

00:38:26.240 And again, they won't they won't look at the collateral damage.

00:38:29.040 They won't even look at the economic damage, let alone the personal lives and the 22,000 surgeries that were canceled, that they won't follow up and give us any of those numbers.

00:38:38.540 It's really disappointing.

00:38:41.300 Yeah, well, I mean, people forget lockdowns aren't harmless.

00:38:44.840 They come at a cost.

00:38:46.720 You know, people whimsically throw it out there.

00:38:49.480 Lockdown, lockdown, lockdown.

00:38:51.380 Well, hang on, guys.

00:38:52.820 Like, look a little further.

00:38:54.240 I mean, there's more.

00:38:55.480 You can't just do that without having an impact somewhere else.

00:38:58.720 And as you said, our protection is the Constitution. Our protection is the Charter. And our remedy, if it's been stepped on, is the courts. That's where we'll have a judge look at each side and do so. But, you know, it's been funny and others have noted it. Like I've been waiting for the summons to show up for the Western Standard or tie, but they desperately want to stay out of the courts with this.

00:39:19.280 You know, we've seen that they'll bring it right to the edge of court date and they will drop the charges because I don't think they believe that it will withstand the scrutiny of an actual rational discussion in front of a judge.

00:39:31.240 Well, worse than that, the judges that are allowing these things, like the judges are supposed to be that blind justice and people have not got their day in court.

00:39:41.200 Withdrawing the charges the day before, making people suffer, prepare and do all of that and withdrawing the charge, that, I'm sorry, is wrong.

00:39:48.900 the criminal negligence that is going on here. The judges are cowards. They're not standing up 0.95

00:39:54.540 for the Constitution. It's what they're supposed to do. And again, it's interesting that I spoke

00:39:59.200 with an individual yesterday and the light kind of went on in my head. And boy, sometimes we seem

00:40:03.700 like we're pretty dull and it takes a long time before we see the light. But all of these people,

00:40:09.280 they swear their allegiance to the crown. We don't swear it to the Constitution. And that's

00:40:13.820 the problem it's not about the constitution it's about the crown and i'm sorry our courts and our

00:40:19.140 judges are failing people and it's just unacceptable the judges have got to start standing up and

00:40:24.260 realizing you know what these people have their day in court and bring your evidence to say that

00:40:28.700 oh we'll wait till june we'll wait till july no the day after pastor coach was arrested he should

00:40:35.120 have been able to have his first hearing before a judge and to see whether there was any evidence

00:40:39.680 and what he was, what they were doing, and they failed to do it. It's just, Corey, I just, I can't

00:40:44.520 believe it. I get way too worked up about this thinking on the, on what I want to call is the

00:40:48.800 justice system for people, the rule of law. There is no rule of law right now. It's the rule of the

00:40:55.320 courts, which is the rule of the government, which is wrong. I think a lot of people, unfortunately,

00:41:01.940 maybe it's a failing of our educational system to a degree, but don't really understand the purpose

00:41:06.300 and the basis of the Constitution and the Charter,

00:41:09.400 they're not there to protect us from each other.

00:41:11.220 They're not there to protect us from bugs.

00:41:12.760 They're there to protect us from the government.

00:41:14.740 The government should be coming to us on bended knee

00:41:17.940 if they're going to ask to invoke Section 1 of the Charter

00:41:20.740 to suspend rights and explain to us at length

00:41:24.080 and get our consent before saying,

00:41:27.660 this is a crisis so dire that we have to suspend these.

00:41:31.880 They never came to us,

00:41:33.000 and this crisis is nowhere near as dire as requiring that.

00:41:36.300 No. I mean, last year, April, what, April 8th, they posted, you know, 32,000 Albertans were going to die from COVID. It's embarrassing, the numbers that they've used. It's embarrassing as a province what they're doing to us. None of this is justified. And it's not even getting our consent. Like, you can't get consent from every individual. That's why you have individual rights.

00:42:00.580 and we have that right for peaceful assembly we have that right you know to for freedom of speech

00:42:05.820 and and again between the government between social media and the censoring that's going on

00:42:12.320 all of those rights are being trampled and it's costing us dearly and again i agree with you it

00:42:16.860 goes back to our education system people don't understand it i've been a long time advocate you

00:42:21.820 and i have talked i think for 20 years about bastion and the law the law should be taught

00:42:26.860 in grade 6, in grade 9, in grade 12. They need to be taught these fundamental principles that

00:42:33.640 the foundation of humanity is based on and why we come together to protect one another as a group

00:42:38.940 rather than just might is right, survival of the fittest has never worked. And you see around the

00:42:44.640 world, people come together to form a civic union. Yeah, no, I'll follow further on that plug for

00:42:51.460 people who aren't quite the political weenies that we are, but Bastia Law is short. You can

00:42:56.720 Google it actually. And it's really the pure prime basis of individual rights. And it's laid out

00:43:02.860 in good common sense language. You know, if you want to dig deeper into John Locke and all that,

00:43:07.640 great. But for a nice quick shot of the real true basis of individual rights, that that

00:43:13.160 paper is essential and it's long lost and forgotten by too many people. So I appreciate

00:43:21.080 you you're bringing it up and so getting back it's just so important cory because you you hit

00:43:26.440 the nail on the head it's about education it's about knowing better i mean the cognitive dissonant

00:43:31.240 that's going on here people have got so much propaganda even now that they see the information

00:43:36.280 they can't process it they just can't i i always like i think i shared this with you years ago

00:43:41.400 that that picture of the old lady and inside that picture down below is a young lady that

00:43:47.560 that's very vibrant and outgoing but yet most people will look at it and they'll see the old

00:43:52.320 lady and again it goes back to those mosaics that you're saying you know what what's the little

00:43:56.140 individual pictures and what's the big picture on these things but no it's very disheartening

00:44:01.700 that the way that our education system has taken away rational thought for people to be able to

00:44:08.120 read understand these things it's more propaganda than about teaching people and i want to say you

00:44:13.720 know reading the classics of history that there's just so much great information out there like you

00:44:19.720 say i don't know too many people who have read john locke that boy everybody like i say starting

00:44:24.860 in grade six has the ability to read bastion and the law let alone the broken window and what is

00:44:29.800 seen and what is not seen all of those great essays are just they're eye-opening if you'll

00:44:34.260 read them and not be blind to it yeah and i mean for those who don't want to read all that well

00:44:40.020 they got us you know to be able to get out there and encapsulate it and put out the importance but

00:44:44.260 i really suggest that one because it's a good short one um getting back to the early part of

00:44:48.580 this and a little bit of discussion like you know a little bit can be forgiven i think a year and

00:44:52.980 change ago at least for the panic we didn't know what we were dealing with we there was fears there

00:44:57.140 was people who genuinely believed that we were going to have tens of thousands of people dying

00:45:01.940 in alberta and we hadn't had 14 months of experience to see otherwise so we're getting

00:45:06.420 pretty darn concerned uh we found now that we've been in many senses fortunate as far as a pandemic

00:45:14.020 will go that this thing typically only targets well i hate to say but people who are very vulnerable

00:45:18.820 and then chances are we're going to pass pretty soon anyways and we don't want anybody passing

00:45:23.300 any sooner than they absolutely have to that's that's part of our humanity we want to make sure

00:45:27.220 that we can all live our lives as fully as humanly possible but those projections from back then

00:45:33.300 were horrific they were terrible i mean people should be fired for how bad those were

00:45:37.460 and then but again a little bit of forgiveness can be given back then but now we're getting into

00:45:42.180 14 months later i mean and a few months ago did you see tam's rocket ship i mean this insane curve

00:45:47.060 that went off the top of the chart again you should be fired for releasing something like

00:45:51.940 that that is embarrassing a six-year-old with a crayon could do a better job than that and the 0.96

00:45:57.300 provincial government is putting up models that are consistently garbage like that as well and 0.93

00:46:01.460 And they're modeling their policy based on these still to this day. 0.99

00:46:04.860 It is total fear mongering and trying to back up their ridiculous view on this. 0.77

00:46:11.020 And, you know, this oppression that's going on has got to stop.

00:46:16.000 And, again, the idea of tyranny of the majority is wrong.

00:46:20.420 And I'm sorry, but this is a major fight for those few freedom fighters, those Alberta patriots that just say that enough is enough.

00:46:29.060 But I am very nervous that they're going to keep, you know, just attacking.

00:46:34.480 And again, on Saturday, what draconian measures are they going to try and take there?

00:46:38.500 It's just unbelievable to me, the measures that they're taking, the doubling down time after time and the fear mongering.

00:46:44.860 And yes, there's young people dying from this also.

00:46:48.340 But they don't also talk about the young people that are dying from the vaccination and other things.

00:46:53.280 And again, it's always a one sided story.

00:46:55.740 It's about fear. It's about no hope.

00:46:57.460 It's not about confidence, about, look, we've got through this before.

00:47:01.400 That's what leaders are supposed to do, is talk about the confidence of the hope,

00:47:04.980 fully recognizing and realizing that, yes, lives are being lost.

00:47:09.040 I absolutely agree with that, and we can't stop that.

00:47:13.300 And, again, your analogy, I always use the analogy because there's more people that get killed by driving and stuff,

00:47:19.000 that we need a safety officer in every vehicle so if somebody's not driving safely,

00:47:23.220 they can hit the brakes or slow the vehicle down.

00:47:25.500 It's not realistic.

00:47:26.740 And these things just aren't realistic to think that we're going to have this safe society.

00:47:31.340 The only way we're safe, lock everybody up, isolate everybody and have robots distribute our food and our daily needs to us.

00:47:38.220 And who wants to live like that?

00:47:40.880 Yeah, it's just just too much.

00:47:44.240 And we're locking up the healthy.

00:47:46.060 You know, we've discovered, again, it's the vulnerable that should be that we should have known that right off the bat.

00:47:50.140 Then let's take them and isolate them.

00:47:51.620 There's where some of the biggest errors happened early. 1.00

00:47:53.340 Alberta was guilty of it.

00:47:54.580 Sweden was guilty of it.

00:47:55.520 You know, people couldn't understand why our infection's still low in Sweden with the lack 0.99

00:47:59.060 of restrictions, but their deaths were high.

00:48:00.840 Well, because initially at the start of the pandemic, they took their infected people

00:48:05.520 and they put them into their care centers.

00:48:07.060 They put them in the worst possible place to put them for treatment, and it caused a

00:48:11.120 horrific amount of deaths, unfortunately.

00:48:13.040 But we've learned.

00:48:13.920 We've learned from that.

00:48:15.140 Tori, Tori, let's jump on that because that's the real problem.

00:48:18.400 You know, we should have had field hospitals set up so that these sick people could be

00:48:22.500 moved in and treated and isolated not bring them into the heart of our medical system which again

00:48:27.580 has been you know we've had hallway medicine for over 20 30 years we've had wait times longer

00:48:33.220 than than i've been involved in politics which is way too long but our whole system is broken

00:48:39.120 and they're protecting it and what's most nauseating to me and and just so distasteful

00:48:44.480 and so uncompassionate is for kenny to keep saying oh our job is to protect our health care system

00:48:50.680 Not our useless, mixed up, backed up government monopoly health care system.

00:48:55.700 He had a year and they've spent billions of dollars.

00:48:58.180 They did nothing to robust, make a robust system that we can actually, you know, treat these people, their sickness.

00:49:04.260 And again, they never, ever talk about treatments.

00:49:06.600 They don't look at, you know, the different trials that have gone on around the world to actually fix this cure.

00:49:12.840 They don't want to do that.

00:49:13.960 it is quite obvious that their desire is to perpetuate the fear-mongering, to hurt people.

00:49:19.960 And I don't know, this is just crimes against Albertans and people need to be held accountable

00:49:25.360 in a court of law. Yeah, well, that's excusable because they're still acting as if this thing

00:49:30.840 just started. You know, we had 14 months and we knew, I mean, at least that's what they were

00:49:35.540 warning us of, was that the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed or RCUs were going to be

00:49:39.940 overwhelmed. So you've had this long, I mean, you talked about these field hospitals, these

00:49:44.020 expensive tents that we saw going up. They said we've increased the ICU capacity. Well, great.

00:49:49.900 So after 14 months, why is it that we're all supposed to be terrified, cowering in our basements

00:49:53.580 over 150 ICU cases and 600 people in the hospital? What have you been doing this last 14 months if

00:49:59.420 that's pressuring a system of four and a half million people? That's not even one field tent.

00:50:04.940 one field tent i think is 220 units not even one field tent seven million dollars i think to put up

00:50:10.860 and to uh fill with with uh people and equipment and and we spent billions of dollars and like

00:50:17.820 you say we put them back into the system even lining up for the shots how many people are there

00:50:23.660 that are symptomatic that are coming in to get tested that are being exposed it oh if you're

00:50:28.300 symptomatic oh come and get tested it's just unbelievable they're they're i don't know what 0.68

00:50:33.980 want to say their process, their thinking, it's criminal. What a horrible irony to think of a

00:50:39.980 vaccine lineup turning into a super spreader event and that's a possibility. So maybe we

00:50:45.900 should pivot a bit though and get a little off of the pandemic and into the full political. I've got

00:50:50.060 you there because it does lean into, for example, we've got an intractable system. I mean it's the

00:50:54.780 Canadian Health Act. We're bound under a socialized medical system that makes it very inflexible,

00:51:00.620 very decent in different difficult to reform uh that leads more to perhaps the means of the eye

00:51:07.100 within the name of your party there with the independence what's the western independence

00:51:10.700 party working towards i guess i'll start with your mission statement wow you didn't tell the

00:51:15.100 mission statement wow well there's a little question to start i better pull it out and read

00:51:21.180 it but oh i didn't need verbaten i i just oh well the mission the mission is is to stand up for

00:51:27.260 Albertans the mission is to realize that we're in a broken dysfunctional country that that it's not

00:51:32.860 going to change and if we don't stand up for Albertans we're going to lose what little we

00:51:37.580 have left right now and we need to put our house in order we need to actually have the take the

00:51:43.500 proper steps of collecting all the taxes here having our own police force we need to have our

00:51:48.060 own Alberta pension plan our own employment insurance we can't be ruled by Ottawa and their 0.62

00:51:54.140 so-called public policy on the environment is draconian they're hypocrites and yet they want

00:51:59.180 to shut down one of the best uh environmental labor and places in the world for developing

00:52:05.340 clean responsible oil that this is a vicious attack on alberta on freedoms on our opportunity

00:52:11.820 and and it's just unacceptable and so the alberta the wild rose independence party you said the

00:52:17.180 western independence but the wild rose independence party is about alberta it's about individuals

00:52:26.620 it's about government being restricted in its size and its scope it's about using the public

00:52:31.740 trusts of funds and taxes properly and prioritizing that it's about fixing our health care system

00:52:37.900 i mean the courts ruled years ago that that waiting in line for a health procedure is not

00:52:44.300 health care. And this monopoly has to be broken. We need the funding following the service. We need

00:52:49.560 the funding following the student. We need to take away these government monopolies that have

00:52:53.840 failed us for years. And that's what the Wild Rose Independence Party is about, is taking the proper

00:53:00.880 steps so Albertans can have the confidence and realize that we're going to be in the top 15

00:53:06.340 nations in the world as an independent country. All of those bogus fear mongering that they use

00:53:12.260 on why we shouldn't be independent are wrong we're actually stronger as a nation and we just want to

00:53:18.780 take the steps do what's necessary to produce that independent alberta and then let albertans

00:53:25.260 in an honest referendum decide whether they want to stay part of canada or be a sovereign nation

00:53:30.520 yeah there you see a lot of that there and yeah sorry i didn't want to throw you on the spot but

00:53:37.560 i mean we could talk pandemic for hours i want to cover the party because you've got such a

00:53:41.140 an important year. Sometimes you're going so fast, though, that when you say you do a 180,

00:53:45.800 it's kind of a carnage. And so my mind's been too much on COVID. Got to go back to the real

00:53:50.100 problem. This is a political problem. And it's only going to be the people involved in politics

00:53:55.320 that solve this. Anything less, I'm sorry, the torture goes on. Yeah, well, I'm getting you

00:54:01.160 ready for getting back into the legislature where they'll throw curveballs back at you again.

00:54:05.740 And so, I mean, this is something that's been building for a while. I mean, one of the areas

00:54:09.980 prior to the pandemic that people were getting already uncomfortable, realizing that perhaps

00:54:14.540 they've been sold a bill of goods by Jason Kenney as they keep kicking the can down the road on even

00:54:18.860 things, in my view, as simple as the Alberta agenda, that number of things that we can do

00:54:24.160 constitutionally within the province to promote our own independence within Canada.

00:54:29.720 And he's clearly deferring it. He's putting it off. I mean, he was giving us lip service to get

00:54:34.620 our votes. And then after that, he didn't actually want to stand up to Ottawa or follow through this

00:54:38.900 and was hoping it would die in committee and consultation.

00:54:41.700 So that's given strength to where you're at today.

00:54:44.580 Well, people are frustrated.

00:54:46.020 I mean, Kenny's a master at articulating and making promises that are not to be held.

00:54:52.280 I mean, even the fair deal panel, postpone, postpone the response, postpone the studies.

00:54:57.720 I mean, we all knew that the study needed to be done or should have been done on the

00:55:02.160 Alberta police force before March 31st to give notice.

00:55:05.360 But again, when we're collecting our own taxes and doing all that and keeping the money here, we don't need to worry about a transfer back of one hundred and sixty million dollars for our own police forces.

00:55:14.180 We'll have it. It's just pathetic the way he continues to to he doesn't even say the right things anymore. 0.90

00:55:22.280 But again, it's all about we're going to study that these are all strategic plans on keeping people in line, hoping for a brighter day. 0.96

00:55:29.740 and it's not going to happen he said that he he's a federalist and his his eye is not here in

00:55:36.440 Alberta and he certainly didn't come back to Alberta for Albertans he came back for Jason

00:55:41.200 Kenny and whatever his future desires are what he's aspiring to whether that's prime minister

00:55:47.140 whether it's to be part of the global elite at the world economic forum I don't know where

00:55:51.440 he's aspiring to but it certainly isn't a strong and free and sovereign Alberta

00:55:55.920 Yeah, well, I mean, Kenny said recently that he's seeking a new base. So that's fine. You've made it clear. And you're providing a home for the old base. So I appreciate that. And a much more honest one. I can't see you turning around and suddenly becoming a hardcore federalist in six months or a year.

00:56:14.120 something he has followed through on and again I think it took too long already but whatever

00:56:19.320 we'll take what we can get is we're looking at an equalization referendum this fall which I think is

00:56:24.420 a real opportunity though I mean it's a moment where we can have regional issues on the discussion

00:56:29.940 table for a solid couple of months even if it's futility kind of to throw that against the wall

00:56:34.600 the government will just tell us to roll it up and stuff it but the exercise in itself I think

00:56:39.340 will be productive I mean for Albertans for organizing will the Wildrose Independence Party

00:56:43.980 to be taking an active role in campaigning during that uh referendum campaign well we we will but

00:56:49.080 again this is just another facade it's a distraction that this isn't what we should

00:56:54.580 be having a referendum on and and it's wrong we should be having a referendum and ralph failed

00:56:59.800 to do this and boy have we paid a price you know he had a balanced budget legislation had he passed

00:57:04.600 a referendum on that stelmack couldn't have flipped that over and we couldn't have had these

00:57:09.280 last 15 years of deficit spending because they would have had to have a referendum from the

00:57:15.100 people. We need a referendum on recall. So legislation can't just be changed the day that

00:57:20.220 they're in there and all of a sudden somebody's recalling, oh, we're going to change that

00:57:22.820 legislation. There's important things that should be on a referendum. Having a discussion on

00:57:28.580 equalization, we already know the outcome. We know Ottawa's response to that. This is a strategic

00:57:33.780 plan to delay and strategize for an election policy. It isn't about putting Alberta in a

00:57:39.700 strong position. And I'm sorry, I can't give him any credit saying he's going to have a referendum

00:57:45.140 on equalization. Good grief. That's like having a referendum with your kids on whether they want

00:57:49.200 to eat food or go to the candy store. There's nothing beneficial that I see in it other than

00:57:54.120 it continues to keep people riled up and upset, which is a blessing because then we come to the

00:57:59.300 realization that the best thing will be is that when Ottawa looks at it and says, oh, you guys

00:58:03.860 aren't happy with equalization. Don't worry. Once you're broke and there's nothing left out there,

00:58:08.640 we'll stop equalization because we're not going to be sending any money back after we've bled 0.90

00:58:12.840 you to death. Yeah. Well, that's why I look at this reference though as a dress rehearsal. You

00:58:18.600 know, let's get it right before the important one comes along, the real one, which we will not get

00:58:23.840 out of the UCP. And we know that. And that's another area that ticked me off. As I said,

00:58:28.300 I was supportive. I wrote a column recently. I mean, I really did have high hopes. I mean,

00:58:31.860 we'd had four years of Notley. I wanted to see some good government. I did like where Kenny had

00:58:36.240 been in Ottawa and his reform party time and his taxpayer time. And I've given up.

00:58:42.020 Corey, I got to interrupt you there too. And I apologize. I was so excited. I mean,

00:58:47.240 he had me so bamboozled. He talks the talk. He knows it. He understands it all. I was so excited.

00:58:53.320 I thought, man, I will never have to spend another day in politics for the rest of my life.

00:58:57.760 my expectations were way too high and so with that my greatest disappointments have been this

00:59:03.380 I really thought that you know life is going to be great for Albertans he's going to stand up to

00:59:07.720 Ottawa he knows about jobs he knows about the free market he knows about all these things he's talked

00:59:12.720 about all these things for years but again the true test is always when you when you get to make

00:59:17.200 the decision when you have the power then all of the you know the facades come off and we see the

00:59:22.120 real individual. And I'm sorry, but Jason Kenney is not an Albertan. He doesn't care about Alberta.

00:59:29.060 He's aspiring for something else. He talks about being compassionate, saying he's got to save lives.

00:59:34.700 Well, then do the numbers, Jason. Look at the collateral damage and quit telling us about

00:59:39.140 COVID. Give us the whole picture. I'm sorry. It's just unacceptable. And that's why we've got to

00:59:45.360 have a Wildrose Independence Party. So people who believe in principles, who believe in justice,

00:59:50.180 who believe in small government, who believe in freedoms. They have to have a place to go,

00:59:55.700 Wildrose Independence Party. Yeah, well, one of the bait and switch moves he'd done

01:00:00.820 was with the democratic reform. That was one of the things I was excited about because it takes

01:00:03.940 the power out of the politicians and puts it into the electorate. And I spent countless agonizing

01:00:10.500 hours as VP policy with the Wildrose Party in the past and things like that. We would argue back and

01:00:15.540 forth and and tune and tone uh you know citizens initiated referendum policy and recall policy

01:00:21.300 because it is you've got to find a balance you know you you have to make it achievable in a in

01:00:26.020 the circumstance where enough people want it but you don't want it so somebody can do it on a whim

01:00:29.780 or or just on a personal beef you know and when we saw the numbers and the requirements to get

01:00:35.700 a recall uh initiated in alberta that's a joke that's all i can call is a joke it's an insult

01:00:43.380 cory it's an absolute insult to albertans yeah so you put it out there and you make the bar

01:00:48.200 impossible to achieve well then you might as well not even put it out there in the first place but 0.85

01:00:52.140 it's it's again taking us for granted it's playing us for fools and the referendum legislation same

01:00:58.640 thing you know what that that bar should be lower how much harm is there if we're going to hold

01:01:02.060 these regularly what's the cost of having an extra line on that piece of paper yeah what's the benefit

01:01:08.280 you know again going back to the cost band there's so many benefits to engage albertans

01:01:12.680 Because that's our biggest problem is that people, and I understand that, people are so disgusted with government and politicians and the misleading and stuff.

01:01:21.060 They don't want to engage.

01:01:22.240 And it's very tough to say, people, well, we can't give up.

01:01:25.940 We just got to keep going.

01:01:28.140 And again, what does John Carpe say or that old famous saying?

01:01:31.580 Quitters never win, but winners never quit.

01:01:34.120 We've got to fight this till we win.

01:01:35.880 And I know that, you know, the independence movement, you know, has flared up in the past, the 70s, the 80s.

01:01:40.860 This time it's for real. We're going to get it done. We're going to protect Albertans and we're going to protect our children and grandchildren's future. But more important, we're going to save those Albertans that are here today that want to work hard, that want to have a great place to raise your family, to work, to make a living and just do and enjoy life. We've got it all here if we just take it back from this government and their draconian measures.

01:02:04.380 okay so somebody's asked the question it's unavoidable and i'm certain you've answered it

01:02:09.660 many a time but it's one on a lot of people's minds and it's one thing we're very concerned

01:02:13.180 about i mean the some people feel the only thing worse than a jason kitty government would be

01:02:16.860 giving notley four more years so how do you address the question on vote splitting and

01:02:21.820 the hazards that it may present well that that's the big question that's an important one but i

01:02:26.780 guess my first questions were these individuals bill one will be one on accountability a recall

01:02:31.900 bill that's there and what we need the question is on the voting and the voters day the ballot

01:02:37.320 question should be am I going to vote for four more years of tyranny or am I going to vote for

01:02:41.920 freedom and and that's got to be the ballot question am I going to vote for four more years

01:02:46.140 of Ottawa and their dictates and their their policies are we going to vote for Alberta it

01:02:52.660 just has to be am I going to vote for a government that's going to just insult us by saying that

01:02:58.560 we're the ones in charge and shut us down that there is no vote splitting if you're going to do

01:03:04.000 what's right and vote for albertans and for our constitution and our freedoms um i just don't see

01:03:10.320 it as a problem other than the fear-mongering just like they do and with covid oh we we can't go out

01:03:15.500 we can't do this we can't do that it's not about vote splitting it's about choosing and doing the

01:03:19.820 right thing go to our website wildrose.party look at the principles there we're a principle-based

01:03:25.260 party. We're going to protect individuals' rights, their freedoms, their property, and the other two

01:03:30.080 governments aren't. And the question is, is, okay, with Jason, do you want to hit the wall going,

01:03:34.880 you know, 50 miles an hour? Oh, and with Rachel, we get to hit at 100 miles an hour? I'm sorry,

01:03:40.260 I realize that people get that, and good old Stelmac was the first one who used it effectively

01:03:48.200 when he thought that Kevin Tath was going to defeat him. But do we want death by a thousand

01:03:54.000 cuts we need to vote for the real thing where what's right and not be worried about vote

01:03:58.860 splitting and and again go out there sell memberships build the party and we should

01:04:02.740 have this over before the election comes yeah we can't sit and do nothing for fear of having a

01:04:09.380 worse outcome i mean you'll just get that slow bad outcome no matter how much you want it to be

01:04:14.300 i mean the the pcs devolved if we recall that was my very first time sitting in the gallery in the

01:04:19.500 legislature remember that when you were alone mla in there when still mac threw it out there

01:04:23.780 to uh recall the the the legislation for the balanced budget so that he could throw out a

01:04:30.660 deficit after we've gone through all that work through the 90s to get a balanced budget still

01:04:34.980 mac wanted to reverse course and borrow us and we've been borrowing ever since through ups and

01:04:40.100 downs we need controls on government so they can't just legislatively toss it out there or they will

01:04:45.380 get worse on us no matter what happens so uh you spoke of how things are organized so you know this

01:04:51.140 is familiar turf to you too new parties getting on the ground at what stage are you guys you're

01:04:54.900 getting constituency associations running there's going to be uh candidate nominations eventually

01:04:59.700 things like that i imagine yeah it's exciting the the the our volunteers on the provincial

01:05:05.700 board are just amazing they're trying to respond as quick as possible covid makes it difficult

01:05:10.580 but this the silver lining is we're doing zoom meetings to form cas we're over i'm pretty sure

01:05:15.940 sure we're over half the CAs are now constituted and up and running. And again, it's just going

01:05:22.100 to keep going on. People are excited that the toughest thing that we're having is letting

01:05:26.960 people be aware that we're out there. Most Albertans haven't heard of us. They're not

01:05:32.000 aware of it. And it's that we need that word of mouth. We can't do it in the media, can't do it

01:05:38.220 on social media in a lot of ways. We live in our own bubbles all the time. And so people have got

01:05:42.720 keep reaching out and that old story you know do you want a million dollars or do you want us to

01:05:47.040 give you one penny today and double it for a month let's just keep doubling our membership by word of

01:05:52.480 mouth going to the website and and that's the exciting part of it but the growth is there

01:05:57.600 jason kenney just continues to put the wind in our sail or fuel in our tank as does rachel and

01:06:03.520 the prime minister and we've got to take advantage of it now yeah so uh getting out of the timeline

01:06:10.160 then with the leadership race uh so when do the nominations close for that the 14th of may

01:06:17.120 oh pretty quickly here okay a week assuming it's uh uh contested uh what are the timelines

01:06:25.600 following up on that then then i i can't remember whether it starts on the second or the fourth of

01:06:30.240 june and the voting will be the 27th of august okay and i'm going to go out on a limb i i haven't

01:06:36.560 read and checked into it but it's going to be a one member one vote no uh crazed weighted by region

01:06:42.000 or municipality or anything like that yeah you know it it yeah what what a attack on democracy

01:06:50.400 with all of these uh crazy voting systems and whatever else the the real challenge is going to

01:06:55.520 be with covet and whether or not we can get together at a convention how we're going to do

01:06:58.720 it but always one member one vote good yeah well on the federal front we've seen the disappointment

01:07:04.640 would happen when they've taken that and just just destroy the system and we've had two federal duds

01:07:09.200 in a row i mean that's where it makes it clear if we're going to benefit ourselves we have to do it

01:07:14.160 within alberta we're really kind of just pissing in the wind in ottawa corey you've been on the

01:07:20.160 independent bandwagon a long time and you've understood it you're a libertarian you understand

01:07:25.120 the importance of of protecting the individual and and it's individuals that build society and

01:07:30.800 as individuals that need to be protected. And as soon as you say that this is for the benefit of

01:07:35.420 the group, it isn't. It just never is. You can't sacrifice the individual and say it's the benefit

01:07:41.800 for the group, that the individual needs to be that individual who wants to make that personal

01:07:46.220 sacrifice and fight for our freedoms. Okay. So Todd's asking, there's an AGM

01:07:51.400 scheduled for July or some sort of convention? Oh, no. I mean, we've had an individual who's

01:07:57.660 put out an email that has stepped outside his area and the board will figure all this

01:08:04.180 out. I have full confidence in the board, but no, there's no AGM in July.

01:08:08.940 Okay. Well, those are the challenges and small party organization. I mean, the only things I

01:08:14.360 can lend from past experience with people is, you know, keep patience. Not everybody always

01:08:18.580 agrees. It's a formative time. Nothing kills, you know, an asset movement faster than infighting,

01:08:25.600 You know, sometimes it takes a little compromise and you won't always get your way, but you often will.

01:08:31.580 And as long as the voices are free, hopefully the interests of the Albertans and the party members will always rise to the top.

01:08:37.580 And like I'll give my plug.

01:08:39.160 I'm hoping to see some other people running your leadership because I want to see a contested campaign and everything.

01:08:44.120 But as far as politicians I've interacted with over the years and more than I ever imagined I would.

01:08:50.380 And they aren't all bad by any means, though people get pretty sour on them.

01:08:53.800 I found you to be nothing but honest and straightforward. I really have appreciated

01:08:57.560 that on your part, Paul. Perhaps that's part of why you never quite ended up premier the

01:09:02.120 last time around. If you're willing to sell out principles and go the other route, you

01:09:05.480 might have gotten there, but we all would have suffered for it. So in closing up,

01:09:10.680 what else would you like to share with the listeners before we let you get back to your

01:09:14.120 work organizing and I'll get back to my work ranting? Well, I just really think that it's

01:09:19.400 important that we take that that step back and have the patience and realize what what are really

01:09:24.680 the problems we got to go to the root of the problems and the number one root of our problem

01:09:28.840 is our flawed constitution uh to have this clause this notwithstanding clause of demonstrably

01:09:34.360 justified and and the courts don't even follow that is wrong to have this idea of redistribution

01:09:40.600 of wealth to have this idea of a central government that can decide what industries you can and cannot

01:09:45.960 participate in all of these things are problematic and if we're going to have a future and a life for

01:09:53.000 Albertans today we actually have to have a government that that's restrained and and its

01:09:58.680 scope is to protect the individual it's it needs to be constrained in a constitution that doesn't

01:10:04.840 allow it to run deficits it has to have a limit on how tax how high a tax can go for example i

01:10:11.560 believe that april 1st should be tax freedom day not not june or july all of these type of things

01:10:16.760 we need to restrain the size and scope of government we just ask people to go to wildrose.party

01:10:22.360 buy a membership donate uh appreciate donations to my leadership campaign i've got to come up with

01:10:28.200 thirty thousand dollars to enter the race by the 14th it's not an easy task with what's going on

01:10:33.800 with covid but there's been a lot of generous people i need a lot more but these are you know

01:10:39.000 It's always that silver lining.

01:10:40.640 These are tough times, but they're exciting times.

01:10:42.700 The opportunity is there, and it's when we're hurting and we've had bad news that we step

01:10:47.240 back and we reflect and realize we need to change direction.

01:10:50.520 We need to look after ourselves.

01:10:52.000 And the old thing, you know, on the airplane, we've got to put on our own oxygen mask, and

01:10:56.560 that's so critical here.

01:10:58.060 This is about Alberta and our future, and I'm just excited to be part of this and going

01:11:03.720 forward and actually respecting the individuals and the voters out there.

01:11:07.360 And as you know, the number one thing for Paul Hinman has always been accountability through recall.

01:11:12.720 I believe that if 20,000 people have voted in the last election, then you need 10,001 signatures over a four-month period to fire that individual.

01:11:21.060 And without accountability, without balanced budgets, this carnage is going to carry on.

01:11:27.340 And we've got to fight for people's freedom of assembly, freedom of speech.

01:11:30.520 All of these things we know are necessary.

01:11:32.960 and it's exciting to be back in the battle

01:11:35.240 as much as I thought I'd never have to be here again.

01:11:38.780 Great, well, thank you very much for doing the battle

01:11:41.080 and thanks for joining me today.

01:11:43.260 I'm certain we'll be talking again soon.

01:11:45.140 I really appreciate it.

01:11:46.480 There's always going to be more for us to go on about.

01:11:49.940 So thanks again and we will see you soon.

01:11:53.400 Thanks for your ranting, Corey, and keep it up

01:11:55.700 because we need more of that freedom thinking,

01:12:00.060 free individuals and not the group think.

01:12:01.860 it's really becoming a problem okay thanks so there we have it with uh paul joining me there

01:12:12.600 um you know there's a race going on there's a lot of growing pains as some people have pointed out

01:12:17.140 and there will be uh questions you know it's a difficult road something i've done i've been

01:12:23.160 involved in in party politics provincially yeah since i was in my 20s uh federally as well

01:12:28.460 I learned a lot I haven't learned at all by any means something right now for the first time in

01:12:33.760 my life I don't have a membership in any party I don't want a membership in any party this allows

01:12:38.860 me to remain yeah I guess that pestering critical guy on the side if Paul becomes premier and he

01:12:43.740 acts wrongly rest assured I'll call him out in a heartbeat as well and be the the crabby ranter

01:12:48.540 going in that direction but once I have a party membership and I'm taking part I can't effectively

01:12:53.220 do that with with other roles and such but you know i can't for people who haven't taken part

01:12:59.660 in a party i want to go on a bit of a note with that like it can actually be quite fun it paul

01:13:03.340 brings back memories of a time when my wife jane and i were traveling with our bulldog stewie and

01:13:09.040 going town to town to hold little town hall meetings for the wild rose party to try and

01:13:14.060 form a constituency association sometimes we'd have five people turn up sometimes we'd have 50

01:13:18.720 but it was fun and you built those seeds and you got them going and it's how it works.

01:13:24.560 The very first political membership I ever got was way back when I was in my 20s,

01:13:28.640 and that's why I want to go on about this, because a lot of people perhaps,

01:13:30.960 there's no rule book out there, you don't get taught that in school, how do you take part in

01:13:33.840 politics, how do you pick your nominees, how do you pick policy? I was actually at the stampede

01:13:38.320 with a girlfriend of mine way back in the start of the 90s, and I saw this fella at a booth there,

01:13:44.720 you know with this reform party and i was just fascinated with i was always politically

01:13:48.240 fascinated but i had no idea what mechanisms and this guy stood there and talked to me for a good

01:13:52.160 15 20 minutes this long-haired kid chatting with him and uh sold me a membership of the reform

01:13:56.880 party i was just so proud as punch to have this membership that was preston manning he was working

01:14:01.360 himself on the ground getting that party going going to larger events like the stampede and

01:14:08.800 other fairs and then i started getting involved i volunteered for campaigns uh i i got involved with

01:14:14.640 the you know the eda a bit and it grew from there i mean to the point where yeah i even formed a

01:14:19.600 a party you know the alberta independence party of the uh year 2000. but get involved because

01:14:25.600 people don't know how and where so you know paul gave the the link there uh i think it was wild

01:14:29.760 roast up party or something like that it's easy enough to google and there's others people talk

01:14:32.880 about the maverick that's in its formation or even if you think then that you can fix or help with

01:14:37.200 with the UCP, then buy a membership with them and get involved. It can be productive. You know,

01:14:42.220 if we sit back, the others will take care of it on your behalf and they won't necessarily have

01:14:46.420 your behalf in their interest when they do it. So, you know, most parties, they differ here and

01:14:52.580 there a little bit, but you purchase a membership. It'll, of course, they will spam the heck out of

01:14:56.500 you. Don't worry. You won't have to worry about communications. You'll know what's going on once

01:14:59.860 you're in their lists. And you can take part in policy meetings, town hall meetings, run for

01:15:05.800 yourself perhaps or help out on a campaign these things could be fun they can be stressful as well

01:15:10.700 but it's really important like participative democracy means we have to participate in it

01:15:15.620 you got to get up you got to get um you know in there and get working with it and as paul's

01:15:21.820 pointing out uh turnstall yeah you can be a member without agreeing with everything there's one of

01:15:26.340 those killers in in small parties you know and getting rolling that would be so frustrating and

01:15:32.260 people will be working so hard, most of us get along with 90% of things, but somebody will have

01:15:35.840 one hill to die on and they will not get their way with a particular policy or an amendment or

01:15:42.020 something, and they'll turn on their hill and they'll stomp out the door. And I know we take

01:15:46.440 things seriously. We take things personally. But you have to remember, again, it takes some

01:15:53.440 compromise. Don't stomp out the door with a policy that doesn't go your way. When I was on the party,

01:15:58.280 executive things didn't go my way quite often. I just had to learn to deal with it as a party

01:16:02.800 member. You know, you just keep pushing, you move along with it because it's just really important.

01:16:06.760 We got these parties coming. We're not going to get large change out of the establishment parties.

01:16:11.300 We're not. The UCP is not going to get us that regional change, that systemic change that we

01:16:16.940 need in Alberta. The Conservative Party of Canada, I think most people can know for sure in looking

01:16:22.080 at O'Toole, we're not going to get from them what we need in Alberta. But if you do want to hope

01:16:27.700 that those parties if you do i mean i fine join them though join them get a membership get active

01:16:33.360 uh if only to practice in other campaigns and such it's a learning experience and it's really

01:16:38.920 really important you know nothing is more effective in election than having your neighbor

01:16:43.660 talk over the fence to you and have a talk about which they why they're supporting a candidate or

01:16:48.500 a party you know no amount of brochures or commercials or interviews are going to change

01:16:52.600 it as much as getting together in the pub when we're allowed to do so again and in my case

01:16:57.600 sipping Diet Coke and the other case with people having a beer and discussing these matters and

01:17:02.840 participating and getting it to the people who are running for the party. So either way, I just,

01:17:06.740 I don't want to endorse a specific party. I'm certainly endorsing notions and there's

01:17:10.380 specific parties that are more likely to achieve those than others. But I really think we'll all

01:17:16.500 be for the better when people take direct part in politics. That's part of what I like about

01:17:20.720 systems where there's a referenda and citizens initiative and things such as that as well,

01:17:26.300 because people can take an active part in policy formulation.

01:17:29.720 In fact, if we get that sort of policy,

01:17:31.580 you could do it without being a member of a party.

01:17:34.200 So this is the route to go.

01:17:37.540 Somebody asking how to get stickers and such to hand out.

01:17:40.400 And I would suggest just emailing one of the parties,

01:17:44.140 whatever one you're asking about,

01:17:45.280 and I'm certain they'll get back to you

01:17:46.400 if they've got things like that.

01:17:49.820 Here we have, you have to be a member

01:17:51.400 to come to our constituency association meetings

01:17:53.760 from Paul.

01:17:54.880 yeah and and parties have different rules about things like that i mean constituency association

01:17:58.640 meetings might have some inside stuff going on whereas a town hall meeting is for the general

01:18:02.400 public as i said these are the things you learn as you get involved with a party

01:18:06.560 but it could be a good time it could feel productive and it's all good so getting back

01:18:12.080 to other things we have a crazy weekend you know i i believe before my computer crashed i was on

01:18:17.840 about the taxpayers federation they put out that thing with 4 000 uva employees had gotten raises

01:18:22.960 in 2020. And now they've said that they're going to cut pay, but for non-academic staff. So yes,

01:18:30.640 everybody else, I wanted to get back and I was going to tie that into my thoughts on left-wing

01:18:34.880 elitism. So they realized we've got to cut corners. We've got to tighten our belts. So we're going to

01:18:39.320 cut everybody at the university except the academic area. I mean, we got a bit of a double

01:18:47.060 standard. And again, that's that thing, as I said, when some of them look down their nose,

01:18:49.940 cause I drive Uber sometimes to make a few extra bucks. Uh, the, the, the academia or beyond pay

01:18:56.420 cuts, I rest assured if you want to see some people drive a nice car or see a university

01:19:00.060 prof sometime, you want to see some of the biggest houses in any city, look in the area surrounding

01:19:04.520 the university. And, uh, often, yeah, they're the staff there. No, not the janitorial, not the food

01:19:09.720 serving, not the, uh, people who are doing, uh, the, the, the other such things. It's the academics

01:19:15.080 who are, will not be getting cut. So the taxpayers federation said, Hey guys, you should be, uh,

01:19:19.920 taking a haircut too. You're no exception here. So do so. So, you know, just to put out with

01:19:28.080 lobbying as well, the Taxpayers Federation, I've had Franco on a number of times. He's really good.

01:19:31.740 He's outspoken. We're going into a period of rebuilding. I really hope we rebuild. We need

01:19:36.460 some serious fiscal accountability. Inflation is probably going to be smoking us. Unemployment's

01:19:41.960 going to be smoking us. The hospitality industry is getting the crap beaten out of it. I really 0.82

01:19:47.420 hope people do go out and stand up for chris out mirror in the weekend and and we've got to push

01:19:52.540 back you know if there's no pushing back the government will as i said earlier to paul go

01:19:56.840 only one direction if they're only getting it from the pro lockdown pro business crushing pro

01:20:00.820 welfare state group then that's the way they're going to move so we have to push back peacefully

01:20:05.860 and rationally because we've got a lot of bills to pay and it's only getting worse for waiting

01:20:10.960 i owned a pub for five years until just a year and some ago i i sold it and they're still at it

01:20:16.160 and good on them and I try to support them how I can. But that's a tough business at the best of

01:20:20.340 times. And what people are forgetting is a lot of these small businesses that are still hanging in

01:20:24.260 there right now and good on them. What a year. Actually, the Federation for Independent Business

01:20:30.040 put it out. I believe the average Alberta restaurant is over 300,000 in debt now from

01:20:35.700 this last year, just this last year. That's how they're hanging in. Some of it's those government

01:20:40.400 loans, programs, others, their own lines of credit. Smaller restaurants, you have to finance your own

01:20:45.440 house. If you want to see a banker's butt tighten up fast, ask for money and let them know you own

01:20:51.180 a restaurant. I assure you, they almost want to rip your credit card out of your wallet once they 0.67

01:20:55.500 know you're in that business. They do not like lending money there. So these people have borrowed

01:20:58.840 on every possible way they can to hang in there. And when things open up, it's not going to be

01:21:04.100 like a light switch turns on their back in the money. They're in a lot of trouble. What is going

01:21:08.200 to happen when they lose that wage subsidy for the staff that are in there? What's going to happen

01:21:11.260 when they lose the rental subsidies? Because they're being heavily subsidized right now.

01:21:14.020 So unfortunately, I hate to say it, you know, I'm pointing at the missing tile, but we're going to see a whole lot more businesses go under as soon as all those subsidies and programs end.

01:21:23.260 They're just hanging in there by that.

01:21:25.900 So we need to pressure areas to at least help with tax relief, get the government out of our face, deregulate things, and yes, spend less money.

01:21:34.300 And that's where the Taxpayers Federation was coming in.

01:21:36.480 You know what we've got?

01:21:37.220 And again, the academia, the ones who are often pro-lockdown.

01:21:40.240 Well, yeah, it's easy to tell other people to lock down when you're making $300.

01:21:44.020 thousand dollars a year to teach courses for the people in the real world it's not so easy you

01:21:51.300 can't just switch over and live on serve you know it doesn't work that way but it's funny talk about

01:21:57.620 ivory tower they really don't understand what happens outside of their institutions so let's

01:22:02.700 keep pushing back as things are only going to get worse for waiting another giant and frightening

01:22:08.020 issue speaking of infringements on our personal freedoms and some of them are you know are they're

01:22:12.980 all important, but some are more pressing than others. And free speech, free expression, you know,

01:22:17.140 it's kind of been said, you don't have any of the others if you can't speak up. And C10 is going

01:22:21.220 through the House of Commons. It sounds like the NDP finally woke up enough to push back a little

01:22:26.720 bit on it with one of the amendments, but for the most part, they're happy with it. That's a bill

01:22:30.100 that's going to control the internet. That's a bill that's going to tell us what we're allowed

01:22:33.120 to say, what we're allowed to do. And we're not talking about big broadcasters. We're talking

01:22:37.660 little ones like the the western standard or even my own personal channel uh you know they

01:22:43.660 have brought it down to the level of individual content producers will now be suddenly under the

01:22:48.940 regulation of the government telling them what they can or can't report on what they can or can't

01:22:53.580 talk about this is scary guys this is a precedent we can't have we're in a fantastic time with more

01:22:59.500 access to information than we've ever had and yeah it also means we have more access to bs

01:23:04.780 than we've ever had. There's some truth to that. Sure, that's a problem, but the responsibility

01:23:09.340 is on us to cut through the BS, not the government. Pick your sources of information. Check your

01:23:14.680 sources of information. Don't throw it in the lap of government to determine what your pressure

01:23:19.780 seers should be able to manage in here and what they can't, because the government's only going

01:23:23.860 to determine what's in their interest, not in yours, because often those interests are very

01:23:27.420 different from each other. So I'm going to leave it at that this week. As a single guest, it was a

01:23:32.940 good rent uh unfortunately again you know just people can't get a break the weather's supposed

01:23:37.160 to be pretty cool this weekend so that last little bit on those restaurants that spent thousands and

01:23:40.980 thousands of dollars to build patios to try and keep open for a bit they got a couple of days of

01:23:45.160 reprieve before the crackdown really smokes them uh and it's going to be pretty tough to get people

01:23:50.060 on them in that cold but if you can i don't know bundle up put on some clothes uh you know get warm

01:23:55.900 patronize these places help them out uh they need the help and if you can get up there uh to mirror

01:24:03.400 support chris scott peacefully rationally get up there stand up for yourselves get involved in

01:24:09.040 these parties that's that's my my message for the week get out there get active we can nobody else

01:24:14.540 is going to stand up for you on your behalf you've got to do it yourself so thank you all very much

01:24:19.180 uh by the way so yeah nadine nadine wellwood is is going to be uh covering things on the weekend

01:24:25.060 out there at the Whistle Stop Cafe.

01:24:26.960 We'll upload and update those as we get them.

01:24:29.800 Monday, I'll be back.

01:24:30.760 I'm going to have a panel actually

01:24:32.260 with some business owners impacted by the lockdowns.

01:24:35.080 They won't have anything else to do

01:24:35.960 because it's been illegal for them to do business

01:24:38.100 or it will be after this weekend.

01:24:40.040 And that'll be with Colin Wolf, who has a gym, I believe,

01:24:42.500 and Natalie Klein, some people might have heard of,

01:24:45.140 a hairdresser up in Innisfail.

01:24:47.900 And I'm going to see who else I can round up for them.

01:24:50.080 And on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, Nathan Gita.

01:24:53.880 He's a fantastic young fellow out of Prince George.

01:24:56.700 He gets some great guests.

01:24:58.400 He's going to be on between 10 and noon and is well worth a listen.

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Western Standard - May 08, 2021

The Cory Morgan Show May 7, 2021

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