The Cory Morgan Show： The People's Party and Personal Freedoms
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Maxime Bernier's PPC is gaining ground across the country and could end up being a spoiler in the upcoming election. I also talk about the pro-Second Amendment protests happening across Canada and how they could have a big impact on the election.
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This is the second last one before the big 2021 election,
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which may end up with things looking a lot like they were in 2020.
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Uh, it looks like it might be backfiring on him.
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The conservatives are making gains, but you know, they seem to have gained
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That's interesting is this time, Maxime Bernier's PPC.
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I mean, uh, the media is not reporting on it a lot, but the pollsters,
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They've got to point out even the CBC site, they have a poll aggregator
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at the state broadcaster over there, and it shows a number of them.
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And the PPC is getting into the eight, nine, close to 10% market
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And some of those polls, I mean, that's from 2% before.
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Meanwhile, the green party has totally collapsed.
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They're just doing it through alternative media, working on the ground.
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If the mainstream media does pay attention to them, it's usually
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So this is a factor that's coming into this election that, uh, could really
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turn into an, an impacting force, you know, a spoiler.
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I mean, people are saying even, well, what, it doesn't matter.
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Uh, Maxime Bernier apparently is right neck and neck in his home riding
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right now, and there could be a few others across the country.
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In the 2019 election, 47 ridings were won by 5% or less.
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If you've got another party that's on the scene that wasn't there before,
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and they're drawing eight to 10%, you can't pretend that this party
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isn't going to have an impact on that race, whether it's making the candidates
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have to pivot and adjust and change their policies to try and take back
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what they've been losing to the PPC or possibly losing what would have been a
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winning race because they refused to figure out what was stemming that bleeding
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So that's a different dynamic in this election.
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I mean, it's a small group, but they are a dedicated group.
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And, you know, something I've been looking for, I've been wanting to see
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rational opposition to government restrictions, to government pushback,
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to government forcing a vaccination to lockdowns.
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You know, I want to see people do it at the ballot box.
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I want to see rallies, but rallies where people can look at it and say, yeah,
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This is making me want to come out and join them.
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Well, something different happened a couple of days ago.
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And unsurprisingly, the mainstream media barely touched it, but a large number
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of Calgarian firearm or firearms, firefighters, police officers, first responders
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came out and they did a quiet reserved protest at city hall against the mandatory
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These guys do not want to be forced to Medicaid and they're going to lose their
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So we're going to lose that many when, when we're in a labor crisis, we're in a
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healthcare crisis, where, when we're in this problem, these guys are going to be
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So we're going to be that much more restricted in being able to respond to
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It's, this is not an improvement on the public service for people who want the
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And these guys, I, you know, I just want to say, I've been going out looking for good
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You know, we'll get that footage of it, keep an eye on the Western standard.
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We're going to cover that because it kind of slid under the radar.
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I would have loved to have gone out and covered that myself.
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And I was kind of disappointed by what I found.
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They made a mark and it sounds like they're going to continue to do so.
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So we're seeing people stepping up at the ballot box again.
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We're thinking, seeing things like the PPC is gaining a bunch of support because they're
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standing up for those rights and we're seeing groups now of professionals and other people
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getting out there standing up for themselves saying, look, we've got to push back against
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this ever encroaching government reach upon our rights.
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So, uh, before I get onto our guests are going to be, and I got a couple of good guests
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I should speak speaking of our rights to our sponsor.
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And, uh, that's the Canadian coalition for firearm rights.
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These guys are out there standing up for your right to own, enjoy firearms, use them,
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And we don't have entrenched firearm rights like the United States, but we do have property
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And we have a great deal of other rights and they're under threat.
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They want to take away your ability to go out and enjoy them responsibly.
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So the Canadian, uh, center for firearm rights is standing up for that.
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They're actually taking the government to courts on this, and they're going to help
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work to ensure that you can keep those rights intact.
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And that's at firearm rights.ca go there, check them out and look on, click on why join.
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And they will lay out all the reasons why you should be supporting them and helping them out.
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He's from the justice center for constitutional freedoms.
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And you know, they've been a very, very busy group.
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They provide legal, uh, aid and help to people who've gotten in trouble for, you know, infringing
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People have opened restaurants, you know, those sorts of criminals and, uh, people who have
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attended protests, people who have held church services, all those evil and nasty things.
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Well, they've been fighting it out in the courts, uh, with mixed success, but it'll be good to
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check in and see what they're up to, what they've done so far and what we can look forward to
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Uh, as well on that interesting race in Banff, Canon, NASC is the federal one.
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Uh, I did speak with, uh, Tariq Elnega last week.
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It's turned into sort of an alternative right battleground, uh, just outside of Calgary.
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So I'm going to talk to Nadine for a little while on that and, uh, see how that race has
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So back on our show today, we have Jay Cameron from the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
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The government's still infringing on our rights.
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It's not so much the lockdowns now, now it's more towards forcing and coercing vaccinations
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upon people and the Justice Center is, is trying to stand up for those rights.
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Derek Sloan So you've got some data and things you wanted
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So the, the background is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
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And anytime there's an infringement of civil liberties, the question starts with the
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charter, uh, when it's the government doing the infringing.
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And so there, there are two specific grounds of the charter that we say are being infringed.
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And we, and we think that that's basically a no brainer.
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The first is section seven of the charter, which guarantees security of the person.
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And it has been the law in Canada for ages that you have a right to make your own decisions
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And now under the threat of coercion and the removal of, of other civil liberties and participation
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in society, you're being told you get this shot or else.
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And, uh, and that's a host of provinces doing that.
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And so, uh, but then you have to move over to, uh, section one and before you get to section
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one, the other, the other ground of the charter is, is, uh, is freedom of conscience and religion.
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And there are a number of, of segments of society, religious groups who have, uh, complaints about
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the course of steps to compel them to get this shot.
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And, uh, I could talk about that a little later, but the analysis then moves over to section one.
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And the question is, is whether or not that infringement is justified.
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And in order to look at the, whether or not the infringement is justified, you have to look at
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You have to look at the degree of impairment, those types of issues.
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And so the backdrop of these shots is going to be key in that legal analysis.
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And so I want to run through a few things for, for your viewers, because these are the kinds of
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things that nobody's talking about much in the mainstream media.
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There's only one narrative and, and, uh, questions like what I'm going to ask, uh, are suppressed.
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These are all facts that I want to talk about here.
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For example, uh, in BC, there's a, there's a mandatory, uh, shot.
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Otherwise you're banned from participating in, in a lot of elements in society.
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And, uh, there's a quote from Adrian Dix, who's the health minister.
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She says, getting vaccinated keeps everyone in BC safe and stops the spread of COVID-19,
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or prevents the spread of COVID-19, which is a very, very broad claim.
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And that, that quote is echoed basically verbatim or almost verbatim on the ServiceBC website.
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And there are no exemptions to this requirement in BC.
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So it's take the shot or be segregated from society.
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Now the question that some people asking is, is, is it true?
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Does taking the COVID shot prevent the spread of COVID?
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That's the government's assertion to the public.
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And so the data is coming out from us universities who started school a little bit before Canadian
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A lot of these universities have requirements for students to be vaccinated as a condition of
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So Duke University, for example, is the most vaccinated university in North Carolina.
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And yet this past Monday, they had an outbreak of COVID of 349 people.
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All but eight of those people were fully vaccinated.
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So this is a COVID infection that is spreading on the campus in the vaccinated, the fully vaccinated
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A similar incident occurred in Cape Cod in Massachusetts, where the majority of people infected at a big
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Not only were they double vaccinated, but they carried the same viral load as the unvaccinated.
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So the vaccinated people had the same viral load or just as much of the virus as the unvaccinated.
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And that outbreak occurred, had about 900 cases.
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And the majority of them, I think 75% were in people who were fully vaccinated.
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The University of Georgia, the Georgia Bulldogs, their football team is at least 90% vaccinated.
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They've had a similar event just this week, where their double vaccinated players are contracting
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And so the claim from the BC government that the shot stops or prevents, that's the language,
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that's their language, that's not my language, that it prevents the spread of COVID-19.
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We need to stop pretending that that's the case, because it doesn't.
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We know that the virus can spread in the vaccinated population.
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For example, the country of Gibraltar, I believe, is the most vaccinated country on the face of the
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planet and has 100% vaccination rate, and they're in the midst of a big COVID-19 outbreak.
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So they don't have anybody to blame it on over there, right?
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Here's another part of the narrative that I think is going to play into a court case.
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What about all the people who already had COVID, right?
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And we're being told that the shot antibodies, the antibodies produced by the shots,
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Because, of course, the point of getting a vaccine is to develop antibodies.
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But if you've already had COVID and you have those antibodies, some people are saying,
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And in fact, some medical research says that you could be at risk if you get the shot.
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So the question is, which antibodies, which immunity is superior?
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It's a peer-reviewed study that was reported in Science Magazine.
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And it said, it's from an Israeli study, and it said that the natural immunity protection that
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develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta
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variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
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So they're saying in the study that your natural immunity, which develops
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from having COVID, is superior to being double vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine.
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That's not something that the BC government is telling its people, is it?
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There's also an interesting study or a report from the CDC
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regarding the ability of vaccinated people to transmit.
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Health Canada in Canada has warning labels for Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson,
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for myocarditis, pericarditis, Bell's palsy, and thrombosis.
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So the question is, when your employer tells you, you have to get this shot,
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is your employer going to indemnify you in the event that you develop one of these conditions,
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which are on the warning labels from Health Canada? And the answer is, at least from Justin Trudeau,
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is that no, you shouldn't be able to sue your employer. You shouldn't be able to sue a place
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of business that excludes you and refuses you service. And that's because, quite frankly,
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some people have a problem with the rule of law. And so that's an interference, at least on the
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employment side, with contractual relations, because you have a contractual agreement with
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your employer. And it doesn't include, I can tell you right now, it does not include, in 99% of the
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contracts in Canada, it does not include a clause whereby, as a condition of your employment, you have
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to get an experimental shot that is the subject of all these warnings from Health Canada. There's no such
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clause in the contract. And so to tell an employee they can't litigate against their employer would
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be to profoundly interfere in that contractual relationship. And that's what Justin Trudeau is
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proposing to do. Some other considerations that Canadians have a right to consider regarding whether
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or not they get these shots. And these are arguments that are going to be presented in court,
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because the Justice Centre is going to be filing a lawsuit against the BC vaccine passports,
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and is working on a lawsuit in Ontario as well. So one of the considerations is the fact that there
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is no liability for these pharmaceutical companies. And so if you're profoundly injured,
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you cannot seek recourse against these companies. And the New York Times back in January 2021
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reported on the fact that secret agreements have been made by big pharma and government,
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whereby pharma gets all of these promises from government, including a lack of a lack of liability,
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right immunity from from from civil suits. We know that they were rushed into production. We know that
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reluctant Canadians, despite the fact that they've been bombarded with the narrative that some of some
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people still have questions. And they remember drugs like thalidomide, and Zantac, and
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Fenfen, which was a weight loss drug, and the lawsuits against these products, which, by the way,
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were approved by the best doctors. And they were approved by the government and stamped as being safe.
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Well, whoops, it turns out that they aren't safe. And they proven they were proven to be deadly,
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actually. And so, you know, Canadians have a right to ask questions about the the track record of these
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companies, you know, presumably, since they've been given a waiver of liability, right, they can never
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be the subject of a civil suit. If somebody dies, or somebody develops one of these conditions,
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while they must have an impeccable track record, they must be like, perfect, right? Is that the case?
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No, I'm afraid not, Corey. Both Pfizer and AstraZeneca have massive lawsuits against them in the past for
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product flaws. Pfizer has the distinction of having to make the biggest criminal payout in history at
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$2.3 billion for the fraudulent promotion of pharmaceuticals. AstraZeneca, their shot was banned in
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18 countries. Then that's the COVID shot for concerns about blood clots, later reversed in some
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countries. I don't know about all of them. Both AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson have had so-called
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mix ups in their ingredients with respect to the COVID shots. And there was recently a 1.5 million dose
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withdrawal from Moderna doses in Japan, because the doses contained something that appeared to be metal.
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So, I mean, do you as a Canadian have a right to ask questions under Section 7? And they do.
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You do. And, you know, another question that you're going to ask as a Canadian is,
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do these companies have a lot of practice in bringing vaccines to market? And the answer is,
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for some of them, is no. Neither Moderna nor Johnson & Johnson have ever brought a vaccine to market before
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the COVID vaccine. Another concern is the fact that what we're witnessing in Canada and in other
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places around the world, and I'm grateful for the fact that you're having me on to even have this
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discussion, is because a lot of these conversations are being censored. You have doctors who are raising
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questions about the efficacy and the safety of some of these shots, especially for young children.
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And they're being censored, and they're being hit with College of Physician complaints because they
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they exercise their conscientious right and their duty to their patients to ask questions about safety.
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So you have, there's a lack of ability to ask questions. There's a lack of ability to have
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dialogue. Another concern is that there's no sunset clauses. When is enough doses? Is it five? Is it six? Is it
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ten? You know, remember two weeks to flatten the curve? You know, so the question is, ultimately
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speaking in this lawsuit, this pending lawsuit, is who owns your body? Does Justin Trudeau own your body?
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Does Bonnie Henry own your body? Does Dina Hinshaw own your body? Or do you own your body? Do you get
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to make decisions? And on what basis do you get to make decisions? And should you be free of government
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coercion? Like I said, you have a right under Section 7 of the Charter to make decisions regarding your own
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medical treatment free of state coercion and duress? And the last thing I think that I think it's
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important to remember is that you have to remember who's pushing these shots. This is the same
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government, at least federally, that forced Canadians into federal facilities against their will and under
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the threat of arrest. This is the same government that has been trying for years to control and punish
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the lawful speech of Canadians that it disagree with, and it has brought in Bill C-10 and Bill C-36.
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which gives massive control to bureaucrats over speech that's on the internet, people's expression.
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It's the same government that has been discriminating against religious people
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with views that do not conform to government's new woke ideology. It's the same government that
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has corrupted the independence of the media and sent millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of
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dollars to the legacy media outlets. And so, you know, the Canadians, I think, can be forgiven for
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asking questions about the safety of these shots. And they do have rights under the Canadian Charter of
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Rights and Freedoms. The starting point for these conversations needs to be how can we work around
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Canadian Section 7 rights and their religious rights? It needs to be Canadians have these rights and how have we
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addressed their concerns. And the fact is that for millions of Canadians, and that's something that's
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being left out of this conversation as well, for millions of Canadians, that's something that's not
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being talked about in the media, the fact that there are millions of people. Instead, they're being
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vilified by politicians, and being called those people. And being, you know, being told that they're
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a risk to the population when we know that the virus is spreading amongst the vaccinated, just like the
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unvaccinated. And there's some data that is coming out to show that maybe it's spreading more amongst the
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vaccinated population than the unvaccinated population. And so there are a lot of questions. And so before
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people start jumping to conclusions that, you know, vaccine passports and the loss of your employment is
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a fait accompli, I think we need to step back and take a look at the fact that people have these rights
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under the constitution, and there's going to be a lot of lawsuits about this.
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Well, and the legislations, the restrictions, the passports, these things are really moving
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quickly. I mean, they're bypassing everything. Unfortunately, our courts tend not to move terribly
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quickly. So what kind of timeline is your legal action on right now?
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Well, we're being inundated with hundreds and thousands of complaints from a lot of different
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people and in a lot of different provinces. And so the drafting of the lawsuit in Ontario
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is underway. We have gathered experts and those are being prepped. And so those materials are being
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prepared. And hopefully that lawsuit will be filed sooner rather than later. But I think that,
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you know, given the aggressive stance of some of these governments, especially BC, where they're
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saying there is no exemption whatsoever, it doesn't matter if you have a disability or a medical,
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you know, a medical exemption, there is no, there are no exemptions for this shot. So I think that
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probably it's likely that you're going to see an injunction application, especially if you start to see
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people losing their jobs, because they're, they're reluctant to get these shots. And so I also
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expect that that's going to be sooner rather than later. But I don't have, you know, a clear timeline
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for you. But we're looking at weeks, not months. Okay, because yeah, I mean, as you said, that push
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is almost getting to the point of fanatical. I mean, the BC government, as you said, that they're using
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language that even with a slight checking, you can realize no, this doesn't stop the spread. Nobody
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actually in medical authorities claim that it stops the spread. Even I mean, some have claimed
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it reduces it. You know, we've got a government not afraid to make these claims as they basically
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make it a mandatory medication. That's very distressing.
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It is. And there's a disproportionate effect on disadvantaged Canadians. Jamil Giovanni out in
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Toronto has pointed out the fact that there are some ethnic groups, there are some religious groups
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who have larger objections. And so there's going to be a disproportionate impact on some demographics.
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And the other concerning thing is that you have, you have this language about vilifying these people
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who are unvaccinated, and who have made it made a decision, which they have a legal right to do,
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to take a wait and see approach with these shots. And, you know, they're being vilified as disease
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spreaders and a public risk. And, you know, there's a historical echo in other from other leaders in
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the past who have marginalized and singled out a group of people, and, and implied that they were
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dirty and spreaders of disease and spoke stoked public fear and hatred against them. And ultimately,
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those people end up being persecuted, both by the public and by the government. And so that's a very,
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very dangerous and concerning precedent to, to set. And it's quite frankly, it's reprehensible,
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and it's completely immoral and, and, and irresponsible by, but for the government to be doing
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that. You know, when the state creates a group of pariahs and starts to separate and isolate them and
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play the politics of division, it never, never ends well. And we've seen this historically a number of
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times. Where, where can we find more information than where can we look up where, what you guys are doing
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and see how they can help out the justice center for constitutional freedoms, or, or perhaps inquire
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on personal issues with you guys? Yeah. So the website is www.jccf.ca. The justice center takes
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no government funding is entirely donor sponsored. And, and we're bringing litigation in at least two
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provinces over these mandates. Okay. Well, we'll be watching very closely. And thank you very much for
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coming on to let us know what you guys are doing with regards to this. Cause it's a very distressing
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trend going on and it just, nobody is standing up for the rights of individuals to make that medical
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choice for themselves. So I really appreciate that. It's my pleasure. Thanks Corey.
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All right. Thanks. And I'm sure we'll talk again soon, Jay.
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All right. Thanks for joining me today, Nadine. Welcome back to the show and bringing us an update
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from the Banff Airdrie race out there. How's it going so far?
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It's been going really good. The reception has been tremendous and of course, you know, things are
00:25:19.880
heating up. Um, lots of attention now on this writing in particular. So, um, the Cochrane parade,
00:25:27.320
you know, we, we had such an amazing reception. It was incredible and people were so excited to hear
00:25:33.240
the message. So things are going really well. Well, good. And the PPC is really making some waves.
00:25:39.480
You know, I mean, we're seeing the registering on the polls. They're really starting to grab some broad
00:25:44.200
support across the country. Uh, and this is despite the mainstream media, pretty much ignoring you guys.
00:25:49.560
So I can imagine your ground games contributing a lot to that growing support. Absolutely. And you
00:25:55.880
know, they can do their best to ignore it, but the problem is, is it truly is grassroots and it's
00:26:00.920
moving from the bottom up. So, you know, media that are choosing, I think to, um, ignore or disregard us
00:26:07.080
at this point, they're doing so at their own peril, honestly. Yeah. Well, and it's not just conservatives
00:26:13.000
that the PPC is grabbing. I think that's, you know, a misnomer that some people have, like I'm
00:26:18.040
seeing people coming out now, they were former green supporters or even some liberals, because
00:26:21.800
they're still concerned about personal restrictions, lockdowns, vaccine mandates. These are things that
00:26:27.640
aren't necessarily drawn on party lines. And the PPC is the only one sort of offering a blanket
00:26:33.240
opposition to all of those measures. That is exactly it, Corey. We right now, this has nothing to do with,
00:26:41.480
uh, NDP, Liberal or Conservative Party of Canada. This truly election, Justin Trudeau has made this
00:26:49.320
all about rights and freedoms. And, you know, some of the strongest, uh, supporters for rights and
00:26:56.680
freedoms are your NDP and your green. Um, and so they are abandoning their own party because they just,
00:27:03.560
you know, they respect an individual's right to choose and what better, um, platform than the PPC.
00:27:10.760
We're the only national party that has come out and stood alongside of, you know, I, what I believe
00:27:16.520
the majority of Canadians and said, we will stand with you and protect our charter of rights and freedoms.
00:27:25.080
Yeah. Well, and we're seeing an interesting new dynamic entering the scene. I mean, we see Jagmeet
00:27:29.000
Singh or Rachel Notley, you know, NDP leaders very strongly in, in, in favor of mandatory vaccines
00:27:35.080
and basically firing people if they won't take a medication and it's putting the unions in a terribly
00:27:39.880
hard spot because okay, you're going to stand up for your rights, your employees or, or your, your NDP
00:27:45.000
bosses. But those workers, the ones who truly don't want to be vaccinated, the ones who personally just
00:27:50.200
do not want to accept that they're now completely politically homeless. And the PPC is providing them an
00:27:55.240
outlet now. Well, it's not only that. I mean, we have police officers, we have Calgary firefighters
00:28:01.240
who went arm to arm yesterday, um, because they disagree with us. I mean, these are our front line
00:28:08.360
people. We have nurses and doctors who are going to walk off the job, who have served us unselfishly
00:28:15.400
and, and, you know, give everything they had last year to find themselves unemployed this year
00:28:21.800
because they refuse to get a vaccine. Well, they didn't get one last year. They were able to comply
00:28:27.080
and do their job just fine. I don't understand this real push to get, uh, vaccinated. And when you look
00:28:35.480
at the data and you look at the stats now coming out of Israel, um, coming out of the UK, um, you know,
00:28:41.960
if you're vaccinated, you can transmit the disease just as easily as you can if you're unvaccinated.
00:28:46.840
So this whole, I will not have somebody sit next to my child on a plane, a train,
00:28:51.880
you know, Justin Trudeau was just creating division. And unfortunately, you know, Mr. O'Toole,
00:28:57.960
I challenge anybody, anybody, you find me one major policy where Aaron O'Toole is not the same as
00:29:04.920
Justin Trudeau. So we've got liberal, liberal, and then you got ANDP, which is so far left. I think
00:29:11.720
that they've lost even their own way. So, you know, we've got the choice of, you can vote liberal
00:29:17.320
or NDP because Aaron O'Toole and Justin Trudeau are exactly the same on every issue. Um, and then
00:29:23.240
there's us. So we really are the only alternative. Yeah. And, and, and again, just, you know, kind of
00:29:29.880
sticking to that vaccine thing, because it seems to be kind of the biggest divisive points. I mean,
00:29:34.280
myself, I don't personally have a big issue with vaccines, but I got a huge issue with intrusive
00:29:39.400
government. I mean, I want to make sure it's always somebody's choice. I would like more people to
00:29:44.760
choose vaccination, but if they don't, it's not the government's place to force that. And there's
00:29:49.240
just nobody aside from you guys really pushing back on that right now. And that's the very rational
00:29:54.520
common sense approach we've taken is we respect the rights of all Canadians. If you choose to get
00:30:00.280
vaccinated, that is your medical choice. And it is a private decision between you and your doctor,
00:30:06.280
you and your family, it is nobody else's business. And to say that I now have to show a passport,
00:30:12.040
a papers, please, you know, to go into a restaurant, to have something to eat, or, you know, look at
00:30:18.200
what's happening in France. I mean, people are being barred out of grocery stores. How long before that
00:30:22.280
comes, uh, you know, a policy here, you know, this is, it has to stop and it'll only stop when people
00:30:29.720
finally say, you know, enough's enough. And we have a charter of rights and freedoms. We have a Canadian
00:30:35.320
Bill of Rights. We have a constitution. Those documents were put into place specifically for
00:30:40.360
times like this, times of crisis. We do not need laws when everything is going well. We need laws to
00:30:47.480
protect us against the overreach of power hungry governments. And getting beyond that, so we've seen
00:30:55.160
O'Toole did a complete flip flop on his promise to repeal Trudeau's firearm legislation that was going to
00:31:01.720
ban everything from airsoft rifles to, uh, probably presumably squirt guns. If they look too assault
00:31:07.080
like to somebody, uh, the, the PPC is, is standing up as well. I mean, I believe, uh, when I spoke to
00:31:14.680
Maxine Bernier, he was very clear that that law is going to be repealed. Absolutely. I mean, why are we
00:31:20.760
targeting legal firearms owners? Um, they are some of the most vetted people in the country. And in all, in
00:31:30.680
reality, they're not the ones committing the crimes. So if you look at under Justin Trudeau,
00:31:35.960
for example, in Toronto, crime has skyrocketed. Those aren't done with legal gun owners. Those are
00:31:42.840
done by crime criminals, you know, gang members, and they're not buying their guns legally. They're
00:31:49.240
bringing them in through illegal channels. So why are we focusing all this time and effort and energy
00:31:55.160
to disarm because that's what it is. They're just looking to disarm the population as opposed to
00:32:01.800
dealing with the real problem, the crime, the gangs, the criminals.
00:32:05.720
Yeah. It's a ridiculous waste of resources and, and, and very few, unfortunately seem again,
00:32:11.240
if it, if focus groups in downtown Toronto say they want it, it seems that's what the major
00:32:15.560
parties are going to give us, uh, getting onto the regional front. Now, uh, Maxine Bernier was also
00:32:20.120
very clear that he would respect provincial rights, provincial autonomy, very strong things. He wants the
00:32:24.840
federal government to get out of all the areas that are not provincial jurisdiction and the
00:32:28.360
government's in a whole lot of them. Uh, but that's some ground you're sharing. You know, you guys are
00:32:33.080
in a different battleground in the West with the PPC that you've got the Maverick party also, uh,
00:32:37.640
talking about provincial autonomy and things such as that out there. So what's differentiating the PPC
00:32:43.240
from the Maverick on that front out where you are. So here's the biggest thing, um, with the Maverick
00:32:48.760
party, the Maverick party again is dividing the country by geography. They, by their own
00:32:54.520
admission, we are a Western party. Well, the issue of freedom and rights is not an issue of West versus
00:33:01.880
East. It's an issue of ideology, philosophy. It's an issue of values. So where they're dividing the
00:33:08.120
country saying East versus West, really what the PPC is saying, we are uniting the country,
00:33:14.760
everybody across this country who is, and based upon values and principles. So we're looking to unite
00:33:21.480
every conservative voice, every person who agrees with freedoms and rights, every person,
00:33:26.280
it doesn't matter whether you're NDP liberal, it doesn't matter whether you're East West.
00:33:30.840
And, and let's take a look at it. If we're going to be honest here in the West,
00:33:35.000
what does Alberta really have in common with anything in lower mainland BC? Nothing. You know,
00:33:42.040
they, they, you know, they did a thing and they said they, they wouldn't, they're only going to pander
00:33:45.880
to the West. Well, even within the West, we have major ideological differences. So the big difference
00:33:53.000
for me between the Maverick party and the PPC is they're a Western, very regional, which that should
00:34:00.600
be a provincial party, not a federal one. And they're dividing the country East versus West.
00:34:07.000
We're looking to unite the country based upon values and principles.
00:34:11.000
So a big turning point is unfortunate, but the PPC has been shut out of the debates. The mainstream
00:34:18.280
media has sort of rallied the troops and they've kept you out. They're going to have the green party
00:34:23.000
that's basically fallen into disarray, but they'll be representing a quiet little corner over there on
00:34:27.960
the debate floor over a couple of nights. Is Maxim going to be trying to do something to reach out
00:34:32.520
during that period or afterwards to at least give the PC PPC point of view, people who want to hear it,
00:34:37.240
who can't, won't be able to hear it during the debates.
00:34:38.840
Yeah, actually he is going to be following along with the debates and then just sort of
00:34:43.640
retweeting out his comments as they go along. So, you know, you'll be able to hear Maxime's response
00:34:49.960
and just check back in so that I don't get the link wrong or anything like that. But if you follow
00:34:55.160
Maxime on Twitter and he'll be tweeting out his comments as the debates continue along.
00:35:01.080
Yeah. Well, and it's been interesting. We were in some interesting new times that parties movements
00:35:06.200
can manage to get public traction despite the mainstream media. And that's what we're seeing
00:35:10.600
happening with the PPC right now. So the media can ignore the PPC, but it doesn't matter. The
00:35:15.000
voters are finding them and they're getting out there. So this is kind of, I think going to back
00:35:19.480
backfire on them as their debates losing legitimacy.
00:35:22.600
I think so too, because what they're doing is they're proving themselves, you know, to be very
00:35:29.800
biased in the news. And there's already a distrust, I think, of the mainstream news media because people
00:35:35.320
do know they're biased. I mean, when, you know, Justin Trudeau pays $1.2 billion to CBC,
00:35:41.800
well, you're a little beholden to serve your master. So, you know, for a lot of people,
00:35:47.080
they are seeking out other avenues. And this is, again, part of the PPC platform. We need to protect
00:35:54.760
independent journalism and we need to protect the individual's right to speak. And that is being,
00:36:01.960
you know, been under attack for quite some time under this liberal Trudeau government. And if he has his
00:36:09.080
way, it'll get harder and harder with each passing month, day, year for even people to communicate
00:36:16.840
by means of social media. I mean, look at the censorship, the blocking, fact checkers that is
00:36:21.960
going on. All that really does need to go away. Yeah, no, we've seen a strong interest, particularly
00:36:28.600
on the part of the Liberal Heritage Minister, to try and control discourse and exchange of information
00:36:33.400
as much as humanly possible. And authoritarians always want to do that, whether it's left or right,
00:36:38.520
it doesn't really matter. But again, we're finding the ways to ground that and bypass. So
00:36:44.120
I won't take you from your busy campaign too much longer because it's the ground game that's so
00:36:47.720
important. So have you got more events coming up in the next couple of weeks and where can we find
00:36:52.040
more information about your campaign? Sure. Well, I'm actually going to be in Airdrie this evening
00:36:56.520
at Public Library. There is going to be an All Candidates Meet and Greet there. And that is at 6.30,
00:37:02.440
I believe, again, Airdrie Public Library. And on Monday, we will be in Canmore. There is an All
00:37:08.040
Candidates Debate. And Tuesday here in Cochrane, All Candidates Debate. And on Thursday in Airdrie,
00:37:16.680
in All Candidates Debate. So I'm not hard to find. I will be at each of those events. And I'm always
00:37:22.200
happy to answer people's questions. Please do come talk to me. You know, we have the, I think,
00:37:28.360
the most solid common sense policies. And I think that are best for Canada, what's best for Alberta.
00:37:36.840
You know, we have a platform that is fair for everybody. So, you know, people talk about
00:37:41.560
affordability today. Well, government is the biggest expense. And yet you've got every other
00:37:46.920
party looking to increase the size of government, increase spending. I mean, even Aaron O'Toole,
00:37:53.560
100 billion dollars he's going to spend in the next 10 years. And then he claims he can balance
00:37:59.640
that budget without making any cuts. That's a ridiculous statement. Absolutely ridiculous.
00:38:05.160
I'm a chartered investment manager. I mean, when you look at a balance sheet, there's expenses
00:38:09.960
and there's revenue. And either you, if you're not cutting expenses, then you're increasing revenues.
00:38:15.720
And considering that it's the Canadian public, we're the revenue, we should all be very concerned about
00:38:21.640
that. So there is a lot of issues that are being overshadowed. I think this time around in this
00:38:29.000
election, because freedoms and rights are so critical. Without that, there's no point in
00:38:34.600
discussing anything else. I mean, that's the reality. So we have to have that fight. We've got to dig our
00:38:39.960
heels in and we've got to have that discussion. But, you know, affordability, inflation, fiscal
00:38:46.040
responsibility, gun rights, all of these things, critical issues that need to be discussed,
00:38:52.200
that are just completely being overshadowed, unfortunately, at this time. And of course,
00:38:57.720
I've made freedoms and rights my number one campaign issue, followed closely with fiscal
00:39:02.120
responsibility. But, you know, if you're not hearing something and you have a question,
00:39:07.480
please do ask, because we have a great platform that addresses, you know, the issues that matter to
00:39:15.960
Great. Well, thank you very much for joining me today to give that update. We've got a
00:39:19.720
really exciting and different campaign going on across the entire country. So I'm looking forward
00:39:23.960
to see how it all irons out in a couple of weeks.
00:39:26.680
Fantastic. Nadinewellwood.ca is my website, info at Nadine Wellwood. You can reach me anytime.
00:39:35.160
Great. Thanks again for coming on, Nadine. I'm sure we'll be talking again soon.
00:39:42.840
Well, there you go. Looking forward to joining you all next week as we get into the final stretch
00:39:47.240
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