Western Standard - The Cory Morgan Show： The People's Party and Personal Freedoms

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Corey Morgan show.

00:00:08.820 This is the second last one before the big 2021 election,

00:00:13.120 which may end up with things looking a lot like they were in 2020.

00:00:18.480 We'll see, Justin called it.

00:00:20.400 Uh, it looks like it might be backfiring on him.

00:00:22.760 He's not getting ahead anywhere.

00:00:24.480 He's actually been sliding.

00:00:26.120 The conservatives are making gains, but you know, they seem to have gained

00:00:28.720 up to where they were in 2019 and stall there.

00:00:32.080 One thing that's a story though.

00:00:33.480 That's interesting is this time, Maxime Bernier's PPC.

00:00:37.560 They're really taking off.

00:00:39.360 I mean, uh, the media is not reporting on it a lot, but the pollsters,

00:00:42.160 they've got no choice.

00:00:42.960 They've got to point out even the CBC site, they have a poll aggregator

00:00:46.440 at the state broadcaster over there, and it shows a number of them.

00:00:50.080 And the PPC is getting into the eight, nine, close to 10% market

00:00:54.960 across the country.

00:00:55.800 And some of those polls, I mean, that's from 2% before.

00:00:58.560 Meanwhile, the green party has totally collapsed.

00:01:01.320 The PPC is not getting any coverage.

00:01:03.560 They're just doing it through alternative media, working on the ground.

00:01:06.440 If the mainstream media does pay attention to them, it's usually

00:01:09.160 to basically take shots at them.

00:01:11.760 So this is a factor that's coming into this election that, uh, could really

00:01:15.880 turn into an, an impacting force, you know, a spoiler.

00:01:19.200 I mean, people are saying even, well, what, it doesn't matter.

00:01:20.880 They're not going to win any seats.

00:01:21.880 Well, we don't know that.

00:01:23.120 Uh, Maxime Bernier apparently is right neck and neck in his home riding

00:01:26.520 right now, and there could be a few others across the country.

00:01:29.160 In the 2019 election, 47 ridings were won by 5% or less.

00:01:35.760 So think about that.

00:01:36.960 If you've got another party that's on the scene that wasn't there before,

00:01:40.080 and they're drawing eight to 10%, you can't pretend that this party

00:01:43.920 isn't going to have an impact on that race, whether it's making the candidates

00:01:47.880 have to pivot and adjust and change their policies to try and take back

00:01:51.600 what they've been losing to the PPC or possibly losing what would have been a

00:01:55.200 winning race because they refused to figure out what was stemming that bleeding

00:01:59.600 and they let the PPC get away with it.

00:02:01.240 So that's a different dynamic in this election.

00:02:03.280 And it's really something to watch closely.

00:02:05.680 People are getting fed up.

00:02:06.880 I mean, it's a small group, but they are a dedicated group.

00:02:10.680 And, you know, something I've been looking for, I've been wanting to see

00:02:14.840 rational opposition to government restrictions, to government pushback,

00:02:18.520 to government forcing a vaccination to lockdowns.

00:02:21.800 You know, I want to see people do it at the ballot box.

00:02:24.120 I want to see rallies, but rallies where people can look at it and say, yeah,

00:02:27.880 you know, I can relate with these people.

00:02:29.760 This is making an impact.

00:02:31.200 This is changing my views.

00:02:32.640 This is making me want to come out and join them.

00:02:34.200 And I've had trouble, difficulty seeing that.

00:02:36.320 Well, something different happened a couple of days ago.

00:02:38.600 And unsurprisingly, the mainstream media barely touched it, but a large number

00:02:43.000 of Calgarian firearm or firearms, firefighters, police officers, first responders

00:02:50.280 came out and they did a quiet reserved protest at city hall against the mandatory

00:02:58.480 vaccines and some of these restrictions.

00:02:59.960 These guys do not want to be forced to Medicaid and they're going to lose their

00:03:04.680 jobs if they refuse.

00:03:06.720 So we're going to lose that many when, when we're in a labor crisis, we're in a

00:03:10.160 healthcare crisis, where, when we're in this problem, these guys are going to be

00:03:15.000 out of the workforce, they're gone.

00:03:16.320 So we're going to be that much more restricted in being able to respond to

00:03:20.160 emergencies and problems.

00:03:21.440 It's, this is not an improvement on the public service for people who want the

00:03:24.760 bigger welfare state.

00:03:25.760 And these guys, I, you know, I just want to say, I've been going out looking for good

00:03:30.640 protests that make an impact.

00:03:32.920 In fact, that one did look it up online.

00:03:35.680 You know, we'll get that footage of it, keep an eye on the Western standard.

00:03:39.000 We're going to cover that because it kind of slid under the radar.

00:03:40.880 It caught us off guard.

00:03:41.800 I would have loved to have gone out and covered that myself.

00:03:43.720 Cause I kept going out to cover other ones.

00:03:45.040 And I was kind of disappointed by what I found.

00:03:47.560 These guys really made an impression.

00:03:49.680 They made a mark and it sounds like they're going to continue to do so.

00:03:52.720 So we're seeing people stepping up at the ballot box again.

00:03:55.000 We're thinking, seeing things like the PPC is gaining a bunch of support because they're

00:03:59.480 standing up for those rights and we're seeing groups now of professionals and other people

00:04:03.920 getting out there standing up for themselves saying, look, we've got to push back against

00:04:08.320 this ever encroaching government reach upon our rights.

00:04:12.720 So, uh, before I get onto our guests are going to be, and I got a couple of good guests

00:04:16.720 coming on today.

00:04:17.440 I should speak speaking of our rights to our sponsor.

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00:05:13.920 Now getting onto rights.

00:05:15.080 Uh, I've got two guests today.

00:05:16.800 I'm going to have Jay Cameron.

00:05:17.760 He's from the justice center for constitutional freedoms.

00:05:20.560 We haven't checked in on them for awhile.

00:05:22.040 And you know, they've been a very, very busy group.

00:05:24.880 They provide legal, uh, aid and help to people who've gotten in trouble for, you know, infringing

00:05:31.200 on pandemic restrictions.

00:05:32.360 People have opened restaurants, you know, those sorts of criminals and, uh, people who have

00:05:36.920 attended protests, people who have held church services, all those evil and nasty things.

00:05:41.680 Well, they've been fighting it out in the courts, uh, with mixed success, but it'll be good to

00:05:45.560 check in and see what they're up to, what they've done so far and what we can look forward to

00:05:49.480 out of them.

00:05:49.840 Uh, as well on that interesting race in Banff, Canon, NASC is the federal one.

00:05:54.200 Uh, I did speak with, uh, Tariq Elnega last week.

00:05:57.960 He's running for the Maverick party out there.

00:06:00.600 Now I've got Nadine Wellwood.

00:06:01.840 She's going to come in and check in. 0.98

00:06:03.160 She's running for the PPC out there. 1.00

00:06:05.040 Derek Sloan is running out there.

00:06:06.840 It's turned into sort of an alternative right battleground, uh, just outside of Calgary.

00:06:11.680 And, and it's a hotly contested race.

00:06:13.320 So I'm going to talk to Nadine for a little while on that and, uh, see how that race has

00:06:17.560 been going for her.

00:06:18.520 So back on our show today, we have Jay Cameron from the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:06:24.880 They've been busy as all get out.

00:06:26.720 The government's still infringing on our rights.

00:06:29.320 It's not so much the lockdowns now, now it's more towards forcing and coercing vaccinations

00:06:34.440 upon people and the Justice Center is, is trying to stand up for those rights.

00:06:38.680 So, uh, thanks again for coming on, Jay.

00:06:40.440 Jay Cameron Thanks for having me on, Cork.

00:06:41.880 Derek Sloan So you've got some data and things you wanted

00:06:44.840 to start with and, and, and cover.

00:06:46.360 Uh, can you expand a bit on that?

00:06:47.640 Jay Cameron Yeah.

00:06:48.680 So the, the background is the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:06:52.120 And anytime there's an infringement of civil liberties, the question starts with the

00:06:55.720 charter, uh, when it's the government doing the infringing.

00:06:58.840 And so there, there are two specific grounds of the charter that we say are being infringed.

00:07:03.160 And we, and we think that that's basically a no brainer.

00:07:05.720 The first is section seven of the charter, which guarantees security of the person.

00:07:09.720 And it has been the law in Canada for ages that you have a right to make your own decisions

00:07:15.400 regarding your medical treatment.

00:07:17.160 And now under the threat of coercion and the removal of, of other civil liberties and participation

00:07:23.000 in society, you're being told you get this shot or else.

00:07:27.400 And, uh, and that's a host of provinces doing that. 0.77

00:07:29.800 And so, uh, but then you have to move over to, uh, section one and before you get to section

00:07:35.800 one, the other, the other ground of the charter is, is, uh, is freedom of conscience and religion.

00:07:39.800 And there are a number of, of segments of society, religious groups who have, uh, complaints about

00:07:46.600 the course of steps to compel them to get this shot.

00:07:49.720 And, uh, I could talk about that a little later, but the analysis then moves over to section one.

00:07:55.240 And the question is, is whether or not that infringement is justified.

00:07:58.600 And in order to look at the, whether or not the infringement is justified, you have to look at

00:08:03.400 the facts.

00:08:03.960 You have to look at the rationale.

00:08:05.240 You have to look at the degree of impairment, those types of issues.

00:08:10.120 And so the backdrop of these shots is going to be key in that legal analysis.

00:08:16.840 And so I want to run through a few things for, for your viewers, because these are the kinds of

00:08:21.080 things that nobody's talking about much in the mainstream media.

00:08:24.840 There's only one narrative and, and, uh, questions like what I'm going to ask, uh, are suppressed.

00:08:31.000 These are all facts that I want to talk about here.

00:08:34.600 For example, uh, in BC, there's a, there's a mandatory, uh, shot.

00:08:40.600 Now you have to get it.

00:08:41.880 Otherwise you're banned from participating in, in a lot of elements in society.

00:08:47.640 And, uh, there's a quote from Adrian Dix, who's the health minister.

00:08:51.400 She says, getting vaccinated keeps everyone in BC safe and stops the spread of COVID-19,

00:08:57.880 or prevents the spread of COVID-19, which is a very, very broad claim.

00:09:01.400 And that, that quote is echoed basically verbatim or almost verbatim on the ServiceBC website.

00:09:08.120 And there are no exemptions to this requirement in BC.

00:09:11.400 So it's take the shot or be segregated from society.

00:09:16.200 Now the question that some people asking is, is, is it true?

00:09:19.720 Does taking the COVID shot prevent the spread of COVID?

00:09:23.640 That's the government's assertion to the public.

00:09:25.960 That's their statement.

00:09:27.400 Is it true?

00:09:28.600 And so the data is coming out from us universities who started school a little bit before Canadian

00:09:34.600 universities.

00:09:36.280 A lot of these universities have requirements for students to be vaccinated as a condition of

00:09:41.080 being on campus.

00:09:41.800 So Duke University, for example, is the most vaccinated university in North Carolina.

00:09:49.480 And their population is 98% vaccinated.

00:09:52.600 And yet this past Monday, they had an outbreak of COVID of 349 people.

00:09:58.440 All but eight of those people were fully vaccinated.

00:10:02.520 So this is a COVID infection that is spreading on the campus in the vaccinated, the fully vaccinated

00:10:11.000 population.

00:10:11.800 A similar incident occurred in Cape Cod in Massachusetts, where the majority of people infected at a big

00:10:19.640 breakout were double vaccinated.

00:10:23.080 Not only were they double vaccinated, but they carried the same viral load as the unvaccinated.

00:10:29.320 So the vaccinated people had the same viral load or just as much of the virus as the unvaccinated.

00:10:35.240 And that outbreak occurred, had about 900 cases.

00:10:40.440 And the majority of them, I think 75% were in people who were fully vaccinated.

00:10:46.360 The University of Georgia, the Georgia Bulldogs, their football team is at least 90% vaccinated.

00:10:51.480 They've had a similar event just this week, where their double vaccinated players are contracting

00:10:59.000 the virus and they're getting sick.

00:11:01.000 And so the claim from the BC government that the shot stops or prevents, that's the language,

00:11:07.240 that's their language, that's not my language, that it prevents the spread of COVID-19.

00:11:12.920 We need to stop pretending that that's the case, because it doesn't.

00:11:16.840 We know that the virus can spread in the vaccinated population.

00:11:20.360 Not only can it spread, but it is spreading.

00:11:23.720 For example, the country of Gibraltar, I believe, is the most vaccinated country on the face of the

00:11:28.280 planet and has 100% vaccination rate, and they're in the midst of a big COVID-19 outbreak.

00:11:34.200 So they don't have anybody to blame it on over there, right?

00:11:37.400 There's no unvaccinated people to blame it on.

00:11:40.600 So what about all those people?

00:11:41.880 Here's another part of the narrative that I think is going to play into a court case.

00:11:45.240 What about all the people who already had COVID, right?

00:11:47.400 There's millions of people who had COVID.

00:11:49.400 We know that.

00:11:50.520 And we're being told that the shot antibodies, the antibodies produced by the shots,

00:11:57.800 are superior to natural immunity.

00:11:59.720 Because, of course, the point of getting a vaccine is to develop antibodies.

00:12:02.760 But if you've already had COVID and you have those antibodies, some people are saying,

00:12:06.600 we shouldn't have to get the shot.

00:12:08.040 And in fact, some medical research says that you could be at risk if you get the shot.

00:12:11.960 So the question is, which antibodies, which immunity is superior?

00:12:16.760 And there's this study.

00:12:17.480 It's a peer-reviewed study that was reported in Science Magazine.

00:12:21.320 And it said, it's from an Israeli study, and it said that the natural immunity protection that

00:12:26.600 develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta

00:12:33.240 variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

00:12:38.920 So they're saying in the study that your natural immunity, which develops

00:12:42.920 from having COVID, is superior to being double vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine.

00:12:47.400 Isn't that interesting?

00:12:48.360 That's not something that the BC government is telling its people, is it?

00:12:53.640 There's also an interesting study or a report from the CDC

00:12:58.760 regarding the ability of vaccinated people to transmit.

00:13:03.400 And I'm going to send these links to you.

00:13:06.920 Health Canada in Canada has warning labels for Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson,

00:13:15.240 for myocarditis, pericarditis, Bell's palsy, and thrombosis.

00:13:21.000 So the question is, when your employer tells you, you have to get this shot,

00:13:25.160 is your employer going to indemnify you in the event that you develop one of these conditions,

00:13:30.520 which are on the warning labels from Health Canada? And the answer is, at least from Justin Trudeau,

00:13:35.480 is that no, you shouldn't be able to sue your employer. You shouldn't be able to sue a place

00:13:39.800 of business that excludes you and refuses you service. And that's because, quite frankly,

00:13:45.800 some people have a problem with the rule of law. And so that's an interference, at least on the

00:13:50.120 employment side, with contractual relations, because you have a contractual agreement with

00:13:54.520 your employer. And it doesn't include, I can tell you right now, it does not include, in 99% of the

00:14:01.480 contracts in Canada, it does not include a clause whereby, as a condition of your employment, you have

00:14:07.000 to get an experimental shot that is the subject of all these warnings from Health Canada. There's no such

00:14:12.040 clause in the contract. And so to tell an employee they can't litigate against their employer would

00:14:17.240 be to profoundly interfere in that contractual relationship. And that's what Justin Trudeau is

00:14:20.840 proposing to do. Some other considerations that Canadians have a right to consider regarding whether

00:14:30.040 or not they get these shots. And these are arguments that are going to be presented in court,

00:14:34.520 because the Justice Centre is going to be filing a lawsuit against the BC vaccine passports,

00:14:39.080 and is working on a lawsuit in Ontario as well. So one of the considerations is the fact that there

00:14:45.480 is no liability for these pharmaceutical companies. And so if you're profoundly injured,

00:14:51.320 you cannot seek recourse against these companies. And the New York Times back in January 2021

00:14:57.320 reported on the fact that secret agreements have been made by big pharma and government,

00:15:02.200 whereby pharma gets all of these promises from government, including a lack of a lack of liability,

00:15:09.880 right immunity from from from civil suits. We know that they were rushed into production. We know that

00:15:19.000 reluctant Canadians, despite the fact that they've been bombarded with the narrative that some of some

00:15:23.800 people still have questions. And they remember drugs like thalidomide, and Zantac, and

00:15:32.360 Fenfen, which was a weight loss drug, and the lawsuits against these products, which, by the way,

00:15:37.800 were approved by the best doctors. And they were approved by the government and stamped as being safe.

00:15:45.080 Well, whoops, it turns out that they aren't safe. And they proven they were proven to be deadly,

00:15:50.120 actually. And so, you know, Canadians have a right to ask questions about the the track record of these

00:15:57.400 companies, you know, presumably, since they've been given a waiver of liability, right, they can never

00:16:04.120 be the subject of a civil suit. If somebody dies, or somebody develops one of these conditions,

00:16:08.520 while they must have an impeccable track record, they must be like, perfect, right? Is that the case?

00:16:14.440 No, I'm afraid not, Corey. Both Pfizer and AstraZeneca have massive lawsuits against them in the past for

00:16:22.200 product flaws. Pfizer has the distinction of having to make the biggest criminal payout in history at

00:16:30.360 $2.3 billion for the fraudulent promotion of pharmaceuticals. AstraZeneca, their shot was banned in

00:16:38.920 18 countries. Then that's the COVID shot for concerns about blood clots, later reversed in some

00:16:46.200 countries. I don't know about all of them. Both AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson have had so-called

00:16:51.480 mix ups in their ingredients with respect to the COVID shots. And there was recently a 1.5 million dose

00:16:57.880 withdrawal from Moderna doses in Japan, because the doses contained something that appeared to be metal.

00:17:05.640 So, I mean, do you as a Canadian have a right to ask questions under Section 7? And they do.

00:17:14.840 You do. And, you know, another question that you're going to ask as a Canadian is,

00:17:19.240 do these companies have a lot of practice in bringing vaccines to market? And the answer is,

00:17:24.280 for some of them, is no. Neither Moderna nor Johnson & Johnson have ever brought a vaccine to market before

00:17:29.720 the COVID vaccine. Another concern is the fact that what we're witnessing in Canada and in other

00:17:37.400 places around the world, and I'm grateful for the fact that you're having me on to even have this

00:17:40.920 discussion, is because a lot of these conversations are being censored. You have doctors who are raising

00:17:46.840 questions about the efficacy and the safety of some of these shots, especially for young children.

00:17:51.880 And they're being censored, and they're being hit with College of Physician complaints because they

00:17:58.360 they exercise their conscientious right and their duty to their patients to ask questions about safety.

00:18:04.520 So you have, there's a lack of ability to ask questions. There's a lack of ability to have

00:18:08.920 dialogue. Another concern is that there's no sunset clauses. When is enough doses? Is it five? Is it six? Is it

00:18:16.040 ten? You know, remember two weeks to flatten the curve? You know, so the question is, ultimately

00:18:23.160 speaking in this lawsuit, this pending lawsuit, is who owns your body? Does Justin Trudeau own your body?

00:18:28.200 Does Bonnie Henry own your body? Does Dina Hinshaw own your body? Or do you own your body? Do you get 1.00

00:18:33.240 to make decisions? And on what basis do you get to make decisions? And should you be free of government

00:18:38.920 coercion? Like I said, you have a right under Section 7 of the Charter to make decisions regarding your own

00:18:44.680 medical treatment free of state coercion and duress? And the last thing I think that I think it's

00:18:50.360 important to remember is that you have to remember who's pushing these shots. This is the same

00:18:58.040 government, at least federally, that forced Canadians into federal facilities against their will and under

00:19:03.800 the threat of arrest. This is the same government that has been trying for years to control and punish

00:19:09.320 the lawful speech of Canadians that it disagree with, and it has brought in Bill C-10 and Bill C-36.

00:19:15.080 which gives massive control to bureaucrats over speech that's on the internet, people's expression. 1.00

00:19:22.520 It's the same government that has been discriminating against religious people

00:19:27.720 with views that do not conform to government's new woke ideology. It's the same government that

00:19:34.840 has corrupted the independence of the media and sent millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of

00:19:39.800 dollars to the legacy media outlets. And so, you know, the Canadians, I think, can be forgiven for

00:19:46.440 asking questions about the safety of these shots. And they do have rights under the Canadian Charter of

00:19:52.440 Rights and Freedoms. The starting point for these conversations needs to be how can we work around

00:19:58.600 Canadian Section 7 rights and their religious rights? It needs to be Canadians have these rights and how have we

00:20:04.760 addressed their concerns. And the fact is that for millions of Canadians, and that's something that's

00:20:09.080 being left out of this conversation as well, for millions of Canadians, that's something that's not

00:20:13.800 being talked about in the media, the fact that there are millions of people. Instead, they're being

00:20:17.880 vilified by politicians, and being called those people. And being, you know, being told that they're

00:20:25.960 a risk to the population when we know that the virus is spreading amongst the vaccinated, just like the

00:20:31.160 unvaccinated. And there's some data that is coming out to show that maybe it's spreading more amongst the

00:20:38.840 vaccinated population than the unvaccinated population. And so there are a lot of questions. And so before

00:20:44.920 people start jumping to conclusions that, you know, vaccine passports and the loss of your employment is

00:20:51.480 a fait accompli, I think we need to step back and take a look at the fact that people have these rights

00:20:56.360 under the constitution, and there's going to be a lot of lawsuits about this.

00:21:01.240 Well, and the legislations, the restrictions, the passports, these things are really moving

00:21:06.600 quickly. I mean, they're bypassing everything. Unfortunately, our courts tend not to move terribly

00:21:11.640 quickly. So what kind of timeline is your legal action on right now?

00:21:17.080 Well, we're being inundated with hundreds and thousands of complaints from a lot of different

00:21:22.520 people and in a lot of different provinces. And so the drafting of the lawsuit in Ontario

00:21:30.280 is underway. We have gathered experts and those are being prepped. And so those materials are being

00:21:38.120 prepared. And hopefully that lawsuit will be filed sooner rather than later. But I think that,

00:21:42.600 you know, given the aggressive stance of some of these governments, especially BC, where they're

00:21:47.560 saying there is no exemption whatsoever, it doesn't matter if you have a disability or a medical,

00:21:52.360 you know, a medical exemption, there is no, there are no exemptions for this shot. So I think that

00:22:00.280 probably it's likely that you're going to see an injunction application, especially if you start to see

00:22:05.000 people losing their jobs, because they're, they're reluctant to get these shots. And so I also

00:22:10.200 expect that that's going to be sooner rather than later. But I don't have, you know, a clear timeline

00:22:14.760 for you. But we're looking at weeks, not months. Okay, because yeah, I mean, as you said, that push

00:22:20.120 is almost getting to the point of fanatical. I mean, the BC government, as you said, that they're using

00:22:24.920 language that even with a slight checking, you can realize no, this doesn't stop the spread. Nobody

00:22:30.680 actually in medical authorities claim that it stops the spread. Even I mean, some have claimed

00:22:35.080 it reduces it. You know, we've got a government not afraid to make these claims as they basically

00:22:40.200 make it a mandatory medication. That's very distressing.

00:22:43.240 It is. And there's a disproportionate effect on disadvantaged Canadians. Jamil Giovanni out in

00:22:49.720 Toronto has pointed out the fact that there are some ethnic groups, there are some religious groups

00:22:56.040 who have larger objections. And so there's going to be a disproportionate impact on some demographics.

00:23:02.280 And the other concerning thing is that you have, you have this language about vilifying these people

00:23:08.440 who are unvaccinated, and who have made it made a decision, which they have a legal right to do,

00:23:15.640 to take a wait and see approach with these shots. And, you know, they're being vilified as disease

00:23:20.840 spreaders and a public risk. And, you know, there's a historical echo in other from other leaders in

00:23:28.360 the past who have marginalized and singled out a group of people, and, and implied that they were

00:23:36.120 dirty and spreaders of disease and spoke stoked public fear and hatred against them. And ultimately,

00:23:41.880 those people end up being persecuted, both by the public and by the government. And so that's a very,

00:23:47.240 very dangerous and concerning precedent to, to set. And it's quite frankly, it's reprehensible,

00:23:52.200 and it's completely immoral and, and, and irresponsible by, but for the government to be doing

00:23:57.960 that. You know, when the state creates a group of pariahs and starts to separate and isolate them and

00:24:04.360 play the politics of division, it never, never ends well. And we've seen this historically a number of

00:24:09.640 times. Where, where can we find more information than where can we look up where, what you guys are doing

00:24:15.640 and see how they can help out the justice center for constitutional freedoms, or, or perhaps inquire

00:24:20.600 on personal issues with you guys? Yeah. So the website is www.jccf.ca. The justice center takes

00:24:27.640 no government funding is entirely donor sponsored. And, and we're bringing litigation in at least two

00:24:35.480 provinces over these mandates. Okay. Well, we'll be watching very closely. And thank you very much for

00:24:41.480 coming on to let us know what you guys are doing with regards to this. Cause it's a very distressing

00:24:46.120 trend going on and it just, nobody is standing up for the rights of individuals to make that medical

00:24:50.840 choice for themselves. So I really appreciate that. It's my pleasure. Thanks Corey.

00:24:55.080 All right. Thanks. And I'm sure we'll talk again soon, Jay.

00:24:57.240 All right. Thanks for joining me today, Nadine. Welcome back to the show and bringing us an update

00:25:10.360 from the Banff Airdrie race out there. How's it going so far?

00:25:14.280 It's been going really good. The reception has been tremendous and of course, you know, things are

00:25:19.880 heating up. Um, lots of attention now on this writing in particular. So, um, the Cochrane parade,

00:25:27.320 you know, we, we had such an amazing reception. It was incredible and people were so excited to hear

00:25:33.240 the message. So things are going really well. Well, good. And the PPC is really making some waves.

00:25:39.480 You know, I mean, we're seeing the registering on the polls. They're really starting to grab some broad

00:25:44.200 support across the country. Uh, and this is despite the mainstream media, pretty much ignoring you guys.

00:25:49.560 So I can imagine your ground games contributing a lot to that growing support. Absolutely. And you

00:25:55.880 know, they can do their best to ignore it, but the problem is, is it truly is grassroots and it's

00:26:00.920 moving from the bottom up. So, you know, media that are choosing, I think to, um, ignore or disregard us

00:26:07.080 at this point, they're doing so at their own peril, honestly. Yeah. Well, and it's not just conservatives

00:26:13.000 that the PPC is grabbing. I think that's, you know, a misnomer that some people have, like I'm

00:26:18.040 seeing people coming out now, they were former green supporters or even some liberals, because

00:26:21.800 they're still concerned about personal restrictions, lockdowns, vaccine mandates. These are things that

00:26:27.640 aren't necessarily drawn on party lines. And the PPC is the only one sort of offering a blanket

00:26:33.240 opposition to all of those measures. That is exactly it, Corey. We right now, this has nothing to do with,

00:26:41.480 uh, NDP, Liberal or Conservative Party of Canada. This truly election, Justin Trudeau has made this

00:26:49.320 all about rights and freedoms. And, you know, some of the strongest, uh, supporters for rights and

00:26:56.680 freedoms are your NDP and your green. Um, and so they are abandoning their own party because they just,

00:27:03.560 you know, they respect an individual's right to choose and what better, um, platform than the PPC.

00:27:10.760 We're the only national party that has come out and stood alongside of, you know, I, what I believe

00:27:16.520 the majority of Canadians and said, we will stand with you and protect our charter of rights and freedoms.

00:27:25.080 Yeah. Well, and we're seeing an interesting new dynamic entering the scene. I mean, we see Jagmeet

00:27:29.000 Singh or Rachel Notley, you know, NDP leaders very strongly in, in, in favor of mandatory vaccines

00:27:35.080 and basically firing people if they won't take a medication and it's putting the unions in a terribly

00:27:39.880 hard spot because okay, you're going to stand up for your rights, your employees or, or your, your NDP

00:27:45.000 bosses. But those workers, the ones who truly don't want to be vaccinated, the ones who personally just

00:27:50.200 do not want to accept that they're now completely politically homeless. And the PPC is providing them an

00:27:55.240 outlet now. Well, it's not only that. I mean, we have police officers, we have Calgary firefighters

00:28:01.240 who went arm to arm yesterday, um, because they disagree with us. I mean, these are our front line

00:28:08.360 people. We have nurses and doctors who are going to walk off the job, who have served us unselfishly

00:28:15.400 and, and, you know, give everything they had last year to find themselves unemployed this year

00:28:21.800 because they refuse to get a vaccine. Well, they didn't get one last year. They were able to comply

00:28:27.080 and do their job just fine. I don't understand this real push to get, uh, vaccinated. And when you look

00:28:35.480 at the data and you look at the stats now coming out of Israel, um, coming out of the UK, um, you know,

00:28:41.960 if you're vaccinated, you can transmit the disease just as easily as you can if you're unvaccinated.

00:28:46.840 So this whole, I will not have somebody sit next to my child on a plane, a train,

00:28:51.880 you know, Justin Trudeau was just creating division. And unfortunately, you know, Mr. O'Toole,

00:28:57.960 I challenge anybody, anybody, you find me one major policy where Aaron O'Toole is not the same as

00:29:04.920 Justin Trudeau. So we've got liberal, liberal, and then you got ANDP, which is so far left. I think

00:29:11.720 that they've lost even their own way. So, you know, we've got the choice of, you can vote liberal

00:29:17.320 or NDP because Aaron O'Toole and Justin Trudeau are exactly the same on every issue. Um, and then

00:29:23.240 there's us. So we really are the only alternative. Yeah. And, and, and again, just, you know, kind of

00:29:29.880 sticking to that vaccine thing, because it seems to be kind of the biggest divisive points. I mean,

00:29:34.280 myself, I don't personally have a big issue with vaccines, but I got a huge issue with intrusive

00:29:39.400 government. I mean, I want to make sure it's always somebody's choice. I would like more people to

00:29:44.760 choose vaccination, but if they don't, it's not the government's place to force that. And there's

00:29:49.240 just nobody aside from you guys really pushing back on that right now. And that's the very rational

00:29:54.520 common sense approach we've taken is we respect the rights of all Canadians. If you choose to get

00:30:00.280 vaccinated, that is your medical choice. And it is a private decision between you and your doctor,

00:30:06.280 you and your family, it is nobody else's business. And to say that I now have to show a passport,

00:30:12.040 a papers, please, you know, to go into a restaurant, to have something to eat, or, you know, look at

00:30:18.200 what's happening in France. I mean, people are being barred out of grocery stores. How long before that

00:30:22.280 comes, uh, you know, a policy here, you know, this is, it has to stop and it'll only stop when people

00:30:29.720 finally say, you know, enough's enough. And we have a charter of rights and freedoms. We have a Canadian

00:30:35.320 Bill of Rights. We have a constitution. Those documents were put into place specifically for

00:30:40.360 times like this, times of crisis. We do not need laws when everything is going well. We need laws to

00:30:47.480 protect us against the overreach of power hungry governments. And getting beyond that, so we've seen

00:30:55.160 O'Toole did a complete flip flop on his promise to repeal Trudeau's firearm legislation that was going to

00:31:01.720 ban everything from airsoft rifles to, uh, probably presumably squirt guns. If they look too assault

00:31:07.080 like to somebody, uh, the, the PPC is, is standing up as well. I mean, I believe, uh, when I spoke to

00:31:14.680 Maxine Bernier, he was very clear that that law is going to be repealed. Absolutely. I mean, why are we

00:31:20.760 targeting legal firearms owners? Um, they are some of the most vetted people in the country. And in all, in

00:31:30.680 reality, they're not the ones committing the crimes. So if you look at under Justin Trudeau,

00:31:35.960 for example, in Toronto, crime has skyrocketed. Those aren't done with legal gun owners. Those are

00:31:42.840 done by crime criminals, you know, gang members, and they're not buying their guns legally. They're

00:31:49.240 bringing them in through illegal channels. So why are we focusing all this time and effort and energy

00:31:55.160 to disarm because that's what it is. They're just looking to disarm the population as opposed to

00:32:01.800 dealing with the real problem, the crime, the gangs, the criminals.

00:32:05.720 Yeah. It's a ridiculous waste of resources and, and, and very few, unfortunately seem again,

00:32:11.240 if it, if focus groups in downtown Toronto say they want it, it seems that's what the major

00:32:15.560 parties are going to give us, uh, getting onto the regional front. Now, uh, Maxine Bernier was also

00:32:20.120 very clear that he would respect provincial rights, provincial autonomy, very strong things. He wants the

00:32:24.840 federal government to get out of all the areas that are not provincial jurisdiction and the

00:32:28.360 government's in a whole lot of them. Uh, but that's some ground you're sharing. You know, you guys are

00:32:33.080 in a different battleground in the West with the PPC that you've got the Maverick party also, uh,

00:32:37.640 talking about provincial autonomy and things such as that out there. So what's differentiating the PPC

00:32:43.240 from the Maverick on that front out where you are. So here's the biggest thing, um, with the Maverick

00:32:48.760 party, the Maverick party again is dividing the country by geography. They, by their own

00:32:54.520 admission, we are a Western party. Well, the issue of freedom and rights is not an issue of West versus

00:33:01.880 East. It's an issue of ideology, philosophy. It's an issue of values. So where they're dividing the

00:33:08.120 country saying East versus West, really what the PPC is saying, we are uniting the country,

00:33:14.760 everybody across this country who is, and based upon values and principles. So we're looking to unite

00:33:21.480 every conservative voice, every person who agrees with freedoms and rights, every person,

00:33:26.280 it doesn't matter whether you're NDP liberal, it doesn't matter whether you're East West.

00:33:30.840 And, and let's take a look at it. If we're going to be honest here in the West,

00:33:35.000 what does Alberta really have in common with anything in lower mainland BC? Nothing. You know,

00:33:42.040 they, they, you know, they did a thing and they said they, they wouldn't, they're only going to pander

00:33:45.880 to the West. Well, even within the West, we have major ideological differences. So the big difference

00:33:53.000 for me between the Maverick party and the PPC is they're a Western, very regional, which that should

00:34:00.600 be a provincial party, not a federal one. And they're dividing the country East versus West.

00:34:07.000 We're looking to unite the country based upon values and principles.

00:34:11.000 So a big turning point is unfortunate, but the PPC has been shut out of the debates. The mainstream

00:34:18.280 media has sort of rallied the troops and they've kept you out. They're going to have the green party

00:34:23.000 that's basically fallen into disarray, but they'll be representing a quiet little corner over there on

00:34:27.960 the debate floor over a couple of nights. Is Maxim going to be trying to do something to reach out

00:34:32.520 during that period or afterwards to at least give the PC PPC point of view, people who want to hear it,

00:34:37.240 who can't, won't be able to hear it during the debates.

00:34:38.840 Yeah, actually he is going to be following along with the debates and then just sort of

00:34:43.640 retweeting out his comments as they go along. So, you know, you'll be able to hear Maxime's response

00:34:49.960 and just check back in so that I don't get the link wrong or anything like that. But if you follow

00:34:55.160 Maxime on Twitter and he'll be tweeting out his comments as the debates continue along.

00:35:01.080 Yeah. Well, and it's been interesting. We were in some interesting new times that parties movements

00:35:06.200 can manage to get public traction despite the mainstream media. And that's what we're seeing

00:35:10.600 happening with the PPC right now. So the media can ignore the PPC, but it doesn't matter. The

00:35:15.000 voters are finding them and they're getting out there. So this is kind of, I think going to back

00:35:19.480 backfire on them as their debates losing legitimacy.

00:35:22.600 I think so too, because what they're doing is they're proving themselves, you know, to be very

00:35:29.800 biased in the news. And there's already a distrust, I think, of the mainstream news media because people

00:35:35.320 do know they're biased. I mean, when, you know, Justin Trudeau pays $1.2 billion to CBC,

00:35:41.800 well, you're a little beholden to serve your master. So, you know, for a lot of people,

00:35:47.080 they are seeking out other avenues. And this is, again, part of the PPC platform. We need to protect

00:35:54.760 independent journalism and we need to protect the individual's right to speak. And that is being,

00:36:01.960 you know, been under attack for quite some time under this liberal Trudeau government. And if he has his

00:36:09.080 way, it'll get harder and harder with each passing month, day, year for even people to communicate

00:36:16.840 by means of social media. I mean, look at the censorship, the blocking, fact checkers that is

00:36:21.960 going on. All that really does need to go away. Yeah, no, we've seen a strong interest, particularly

00:36:28.600 on the part of the Liberal Heritage Minister, to try and control discourse and exchange of information

00:36:33.400 as much as humanly possible. And authoritarians always want to do that, whether it's left or right,

00:36:38.520 it doesn't really matter. But again, we're finding the ways to ground that and bypass. So

00:36:44.120 I won't take you from your busy campaign too much longer because it's the ground game that's so

00:36:47.720 important. So have you got more events coming up in the next couple of weeks and where can we find

00:36:52.040 more information about your campaign? Sure. Well, I'm actually going to be in Airdrie this evening

00:36:56.520 at Public Library. There is going to be an All Candidates Meet and Greet there. And that is at 6.30,

00:37:02.440 I believe, again, Airdrie Public Library. And on Monday, we will be in Canmore. There is an All

00:37:08.040 Candidates Debate. And Tuesday here in Cochrane, All Candidates Debate. And on Thursday in Airdrie,

00:37:16.680 in All Candidates Debate. So I'm not hard to find. I will be at each of those events. And I'm always

00:37:22.200 happy to answer people's questions. Please do come talk to me. You know, we have the, I think,

00:37:28.360 the most solid common sense policies. And I think that are best for Canada, what's best for Alberta.

00:37:36.840 You know, we have a platform that is fair for everybody. So, you know, people talk about

00:37:41.560 affordability today. Well, government is the biggest expense. And yet you've got every other

00:37:46.920 party looking to increase the size of government, increase spending. I mean, even Aaron O'Toole,

00:37:53.560 100 billion dollars he's going to spend in the next 10 years. And then he claims he can balance

00:37:59.640 that budget without making any cuts. That's a ridiculous statement. Absolutely ridiculous.

00:38:05.160 I'm a chartered investment manager. I mean, when you look at a balance sheet, there's expenses

00:38:09.960 and there's revenue. And either you, if you're not cutting expenses, then you're increasing revenues.

00:38:15.720 And considering that it's the Canadian public, we're the revenue, we should all be very concerned about

00:38:21.640 that. So there is a lot of issues that are being overshadowed. I think this time around in this

00:38:29.000 election, because freedoms and rights are so critical. Without that, there's no point in

00:38:34.600 discussing anything else. I mean, that's the reality. So we have to have that fight. We've got to dig our

00:38:39.960 heels in and we've got to have that discussion. But, you know, affordability, inflation, fiscal

00:38:46.040 responsibility, gun rights, all of these things, critical issues that need to be discussed,

00:38:52.200 that are just completely being overshadowed, unfortunately, at this time. And of course,

00:38:57.720 I've made freedoms and rights my number one campaign issue, followed closely with fiscal

00:39:02.120 responsibility. But, you know, if you're not hearing something and you have a question,

00:39:07.480 please do ask, because we have a great platform that addresses, you know, the issues that matter to

00:39:14.200 all Canadians.

00:39:15.960 Great. Well, thank you very much for joining me today to give that update. We've got a

00:39:19.720 really exciting and different campaign going on across the entire country. So I'm looking forward

00:39:23.960 to see how it all irons out in a couple of weeks.

00:39:26.680 Fantastic. Nadinewellwood.ca is my website, info at Nadine Wellwood. You can reach me anytime.

00:39:35.160 Great. Thanks again for coming on, Nadine. I'm sure we'll be talking again soon.

00:39:39.080 Thank you, Corey. It's always a pleasure.

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Western Standard - September 09, 2021

The Cory Morgan Show： The People's Party and Personal Freedoms

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