Western Standard - The Cory Morgan Show with guest Clinton Desveaux

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Cory Morgan Show. This is the last one before the full federal election

00:00:13.360 hits. It's been a long 30-some day grind since Justin Trudeau felt he'd be able to

00:00:19.680 call a sudden election and snatch a majority out of the Canadian electorate before anybody

00:00:24.960 really realized what he was doing. It seems to have backfired on him pretty terribly.

00:00:28.560 Right now, the election is neck and neck. He's lost what was a considerable lead at the time of

00:00:34.160 calling the election and we've seen a number of interesting developments come about. I mean,

00:00:38.000 right now, at least as far as polls can go, polls have been absolutely terrible at picking who's

00:00:43.680 going to win elections for this last five, six, eight years. So I wouldn't put too much into it,

00:00:48.480 but either way, from as far as we can read into that crystal ball, it looks like a really close

00:00:52.960 race. We're going to have a minority Conservative Party of Canada government or a minority Liberal

00:00:57.920 government. Either way, the chances of a majority don't look very good at all,

00:01:01.520 so we'll get to do this all over again probably within a couple of years. The average for a

00:01:05.760 minority government in Canada lasts about 18 months. Trudeau warned us about that. He was almost

00:01:11.280 threatening it saying, you better give me a majority or we're just going to have to do this again.

00:01:15.200 Reality is, I don't think Trudeau is going to make it if he doesn't get a majority. It looks unlikely.

00:01:20.240 I mean, how many kicks at the cat are the Liberals going to give this guy? He lost a majority,

00:01:26.800 then he has just repeated a minority. If they ever want a majority again, they're going to have to

00:01:30.880 change the formula. And the formula thing at the top is that vacuous leader that they've had for some

00:01:36.560 years. You know, people enjoyed the fresh air, the changes from Stephen Harper, you know, something a

00:01:42.800 little less serious. But I mean, after six years and in such a time of crisis, whether it's from

00:01:47.280 international affairs to our economy, to the pandemic, I think most people want to see somebody

00:01:53.120 with more brains between their ears than than Justin Trudeau has. So I got a feeling we're not

00:01:57.760 this is going to be Trudeau's last election, though he might be Prime Minister for say another year

00:02:02.080 after this election closes. But we'll see. It's hard to read a lot into this yet. We are going to be

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00:03:51.440 So you can't even hunt ducks or shoot, you know, with your .22. There's no stopping and you need to

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00:04:19.920 It's important. All of these rights are important. We're in a period of the world right now where

00:04:25.280 rights have been thrown out the window in a mass hysteria to try and battle a virus. How effective

00:04:30.320 it's been? I don't know. It's not looking great, to be honest. I mean, we've really pushed and flogged the

00:04:34.400 vaccines. We've chased people all over the place. We're ostracizing non-vaccinated people now. 1.00

00:04:39.680 I get the crap, though. I got to admit, the rabid anti-vaxxers. And yes, guys, you're anti-vaxxers. 0.99

00:04:44.480 Don't feed me the garbage. I'm a vaccine hesitant. No, when you light your hair on fire, 0.98

00:04:49.040 just out of the fact that I even mentioned that I got vaccinated willingly, both jabs, 0.99

00:04:53.200 you're an anti-vaxxer. There are a lot of hesitant people out there, absolutely. And they've got some

00:04:57.200 legitimate concerns. But their voices are being overrun by the goofy anti-vaxx crowd. That is a

00:05:03.920 minority, but an extremely vocal one out there. These are the ones that were screaming in front

00:05:09.040 of hospitals the other day. You see, we had a great demonstration last Sunday in Calgary and all

00:05:15.600 across the country. All these people speaking up, good guest speakers, rational cases about why we

00:05:20.400 should back off and the restrictions, why individual rights are important, why we can't force medication

00:05:24.640 about people who don't want it. And then the next day, a bunch of clowns go sit up outside 0.89

00:05:28.720 of hospitals and demonstrate and lose all that public goodwill that was gained. Why? Why? Why 0.95

00:05:33.120 have you guys always got to be nuts? I know the majority of people with concerns about the vaccines 0.73

00:05:38.160 aren't nuts, but the nuts are dominating the discourse. So if you've got concerns, you've got

00:05:44.160 to tell these guys, hey, set your goofiness aside. I mean, I've gone to these protests where they're

00:05:48.320 talking about chemtrails and lizard people and all that beautiful stuff. Sideline those people,

00:05:52.560 guys, or you're going to get your rights stomped and trampled on. We try to report on the rational

00:05:57.040 ones as much as possible. We really do. But until that tipping point of rational ones comes around,

00:06:02.240 I'm afraid there's not much going to change. People are standing up and pushing back though.

00:06:06.800 The West End pilots, it's interesting, you know, they could be losing their jobs. And now one of the

00:06:10.720 unions is finally standing up and saying, Hey, wait a minute, you can't fire all these guys because

00:06:15.360 they won't take a forced medication. What if there are side effects? What if there are issues? There's things

00:06:19.120 in their pilot agreements that say they can't fly if they have other medical issues going on.

00:06:25.040 So this could actually ground them. They're concerned. They're worried. And the union's

00:06:28.560 pushing back and they're saying, Whoa, hang on. You can't fire these guys for refusing to take a

00:06:32.720 medication. This battle is far from done. We're still sorting things out. The world has gone mad,

00:06:39.280 but maybe there's a light at the long-term end of the tunnel. I mean, it's starting to get really

00:06:43.600 questionable. You know, Israel led the world in vaccinations in the first jab, in the second jab, 0.93

00:06:47.040 now they're under their third jab. And guess what? Infections are running wild.

00:06:50.960 I still think vaccinations help. I think they're the way out of things, but they're not working

00:06:55.360 nearly as well as they were pumped up to be. And we can keep chasing around that remaining 10,

00:07:00.560 15% of people who don't want to get vaccinated. It's not going to make a difference, you guys.

00:07:04.960 I mean, a hundred percent vaccine rate isn't reasonable. And it seems that with the amount that this

00:07:09.360 virus manages to penetrate actually vaccinated people, it's at best just going to mitigate things.

00:07:15.520 So let's start looking at living with it, getting realistic. Unfortunately,

00:07:19.600 the hysteria is taking over. You know, the pitchforks are out for Kenny. He hasn't been

00:07:24.400 leading well through this. There's no getting around that. He hasn't been communicating well.

00:07:27.520 If you're going to hide and hope it goes away, it's not going to work. Then other people just set

00:07:31.920 the narrative and they're making it look worse and worse. We're in for some nutty times. Anyways,

00:07:38.240 I sat with Clinton DeVoe this week from the Halifax there. Talk about the federal election.

00:07:43.840 You know, he's been on before. I know he drives some of you a little while, but some of you really

00:07:47.760 like him. I mean, the guy drills down the polls. He likes the stats. He gives a different point of

00:07:51.600 view. We don't always need an echo chamber. He speaks from a different perspective. And I mean,

00:07:57.040 from what I can gather with things, they're mostly just a toss up. I really don't know what's going to

00:08:01.600 happen one day. I'm sure when we start our coverage, we're going to start with the hood around and 0.80

00:08:05.040 talking about what everybody's predictions are. And most of us will probably be wrong,

00:08:08.720 but it's going to be interesting to watch with mail-in ballots. We won't get the full results,

00:08:11.680 of course, for a few days, but maybe on Monday night, we'll get a good picture of where things

00:08:15.680 are going. If we're going to get a new government or not and where it's going to go. So thanks for

00:08:21.200 joining and hang on here. And we'll have this chat with Clinton DeVoe from Halifax.

00:08:31.520 Okay. Welcome back to the show, Clinton. This is our last one

00:08:34.800 before the big event, the Super Bowl for political dorks and nerds like us. The election's coming up on

00:08:41.680 this Monday and the polls have been bouncing all over. Maybe we'll start, you're the poll guy,

00:08:47.200 with just a bit of a rundown of what you think you've been seeing and what we're looking at now.

00:08:51.680 Well, look, over the last 48 hours, the polling numbers have been tightening up.

00:08:56.720 Basically, most if not all of the various polling firms have the Liberals either with a four-point lead

00:09:07.280 or a tie with the Conservatives. What we're seeing when we look at the regional breakdown in places like

00:09:15.840 Ontario, the Liberals have a solid lead right now of about 37-38% of the vote to somewhere around 32%

00:09:26.960 for the Conservatives. And what's really problematic for the Conservatives right now, as we've talked

00:09:32.560 about on your program for a number of months now, is the vote split issue. Maxine Bernier and his People's

00:09:40.720 Party has been climbing in the polls somewhere between 5% and 10%, depending on whichever firm you're looking at.

00:09:54.720 So, you know, we're potentially looking at a Liberal-majority government and we're looking at the possibility

00:10:04.960 of Conservative members of Parliament in places like Calgary and Edmonton

00:10:08.320 and potentially going down to defeat due to vote splits.

00:10:13.680 Yeah, well, and something in watching that, there's no doubt that the PPC appeals predominantly

00:10:19.280 more to the small-c Conservatives, the individualist types, the Libertarian types, but there have been

00:10:24.880 quite a few indications that the PPC is also pulling a surprising degree, actually, out of traditional

00:10:30.240 Liberal supporters like the 40- to 50-year-old Housewives, to put it bluntly,

00:10:36.960 as well as the Green Party's collapse. I mean, there used to be a lot of, you know,

00:10:40.480 naturopaths and anti-vaccination people there. They're pulling a little bit out of that, too.

00:10:44.960 So, I mean, there's no doubt they're going to have an impact on a lot of races to a degree,

00:10:49.120 but it's going to be kind of hard to tell exactly which ones might have been pulled which way,

00:10:52.320 or which might have been cancelled by some Liberal votes.

00:10:54.400 Yeah, so your analysis is correct. They are starting to attract a smaller number of voters

00:11:03.360 from people like the Greens. My guess is that it's probably related to vaccines and those kinds

00:11:11.600 of issues. You know, if you're someone that's in the sort of health issues and natural wellness issues

00:11:17.440 and things like that, there are individuals that are concerned about taking a vaccine for a bunch

00:11:23.680 of different reasons. But there has been some recent polling and focus group data that's come out over

00:11:30.640 the last 96 hours. That seems to indicate three quarters of their vote is essentially Conservative Party supporters,

00:11:45.120 and that the other 25% is a mix of Green Party people and, you know, a few disaffected individuals and that kind of thing.

00:11:56.320 Yeah, so vote split aside, that was certainly a factor, and it's going to be on Monday night,

00:12:00.560 we're really going to see what would happen with that. Another issue that Conservatives have is,

00:12:05.120 you know, the way the seat concentration or the support concentration is in winning seats. Like realistically,

00:12:10.240 they've got to actually pull a very good number of points ahead of the Liberals in order to actually pull off a win.

00:12:15.280 We saw that in the last election. The only upside, perhaps, is that polls tend to under-report Conservative support.

00:12:22.800 They're not looking really great coming in, though, at this point, I imagine.

00:12:26.240 Yeah, so, you know, that's an interesting point you bring up.

00:12:28.880 So one of the things that we don't talk about very much as Canadians is that we do have a similar sort of,

00:12:34.640 I guess you could call it a problem, when it comes to popular vote versus, you know, who wins or loses elections.

00:12:44.160 It's a similar phenomenon we've seen in the United States in recent years, where, you know,

00:12:49.360 the person that wins the electoral college is the person that wins the presidency.

00:12:55.120 And we're seeing a similar sort of outcome in Canada, where the person that can win the largest concentration number of seats can

00:13:04.480 either win a minority government or, in some cases, a majority government with an incredibly low,

00:13:09.440 low, you know, popular national support.

00:13:13.920 And so an example of that would have been the 2019 election, where the Conservatives drew 34%

00:13:20.640 of the popular vote, the Liberals got 33%, but the Liberals formed a minority government.

00:13:27.200 And as you've pointed out, a lot of that has to do with concentration of votes,

00:13:32.000 you know, how, how, you know, the critical mass, those kinds of things. So in other words,

00:13:36.880 if you get 100% of the vote in a riding in rural Alberta, that doesn't help you gain additional seats

00:13:43.440 in the House of Commons, what it does do is it helps you boost your national number.

00:13:47.920 So the Conservatives need to find a way to increase their support in regions where they need growth.

00:13:54.560 And so that's Ontario, that's British Columbia, you know, that's Quebec, Atlantic Canada,

00:14:01.680 and quite frankly, that's even parts of Manitoba, places like the Greater Winnipeg area.

00:14:06.400 Yeah, we've got a lot of work ahead of them over the next four days.

00:14:09.520 Yeah, we've been seeing that narrative O'Toole strategy. I mean, lately, he's been very,

00:14:13.440 he pops up here and there. But for the most part, he's sticking really close to Central Canada,

00:14:17.600 particularly, again, Quebec and Ontario. And he's really, I guess, reaching trying to,

00:14:23.120 in my view, pander to those Central Canadian votes pretty hard. He made an announcement on

00:14:26.960 the daycare recently, you were saying? Yeah, so one of the big news items was

00:14:31.840 during the recent leaders debate, the Conservative Party leader, Aaron O'Toole,

00:14:38.160 looked over at the leader of the Bloc Québécois, and also made a public announcement to the Premier of

00:14:46.480 Quebec, that a Conservative Party of Canada government would send additional money with no

00:14:54.080 strings attached to the province of Quebec, that they could use, he's hoping, for daycare.

00:15:01.680 Now, the problem with that, of course, as many of your viewers are aware, that are located in

00:15:06.160 different parts of Western Canada, is that not all the provinces in Canada have a universal daycare

00:15:12.960 program. So, you know, the Conservatives are promising to give more money to a province which

00:15:19.600 already has a universal daycare program. And they're saying, we're going to give you more money.

00:15:25.840 Meanwhile, you know, provinces that don't have that program are getting nothing from them.

00:15:32.960 So it really is a, it's kind of a shell game that they're playing, where they're, they're saying one

00:15:38.480 thing in parts of English Canada, and then a different thing inside the province of Quebec.

00:15:45.760 And, you know, I don't want to make this an anti-Quebec issue. I mean, this is really a,

00:15:53.200 it's a tactical position that they're taking. And I fundamentally disagree with what they're doing.

00:15:58.640 But, you know, they've decided that by doing this, that they can make gains. And of course,

00:16:04.720 once they made that announcement of no strings attached, you can do with the money, whatever

00:16:09.200 you want. The Premier of Quebec came out and endorsed Erin O'Toole. So it sort of puts the

00:16:16.640 Conservatives between a rock and a hard place as far as their voter base goes.

00:16:21.440 Yeah, I mean, they know they're going to alienate the West as they chase the votes in Central Canada.

00:16:26.000 That's more of a sign of a broken system, unfortunately, that forces federal parties to

00:16:29.520 have to strategically cherry pick certain regions over others. So I mean,

00:16:34.320 And one moment, and to be just to be clear, it's not just a central, it's not just,

00:16:39.520 you know, denying these services to Western Canadians, but it's also denying these services

00:16:43.840 to voters in Ontario and Atlantic Canada. So it really is like a focus on one specific province

00:16:50.880 at the expense of others. So you know, I guess we're going to see how voters react to that over the

00:16:55.120 coming days. Yeah. And this is, again, as far as elections go, I would honestly say it's a too

00:17:03.280 close to call one in a lot of ways. Like, there's just so many variables we're looking at. Like I

00:17:07.200 said, the PPC, this is new with this kind of surge. I mean, I think it capped out because they're kind

00:17:10.960 of targeting a protest vote that's going to get as big as it's going to get, but it's clearly going

00:17:15.200 to have an impact. And then we have mail-in ballots, which we don't know how many have actually

00:17:19.760 been done yet. The advance polls are going really strong or did go very strongly. But we know the mail-in

00:17:24.640 ballots tend to favour Liberal candidates, but then as well with polling, as I said earlier,

00:17:30.000 it tends to under-report Conservative support. I may as well throw it at you. We'll see on Monday

00:17:34.720 night and see how you're doing with it. But have you got a ballpark guess on what you think we're

00:17:38.080 going to see on Monday? Yeah. So I actually see a different scenario playing out. I think what you've

00:17:45.680 described is generally how it's worked in the past. I do think now though, because of COVID-19,

00:17:52.000 that we're going to see a larger number of people dealing with advanced polls and with

00:17:57.360 mail-in ballots, and it won't necessarily just be a Liberal Party voter that's going to focus on

00:18:03.840 those issues. I do think that there's a genuine concern that goes across all party lines when it

00:18:10.720 comes to trying to minimize the possibility of getting contact with COVID and these kinds of issues.

00:18:17.040 So I do think we're going to see that get picked up across party lines. I mean, I really think that

00:18:23.040 the biggest problem in this campaign is, as I've alluded to many times, for the Conservatives anyways,

00:18:28.720 and that's Mr. Bernier. I've argued that he is essentially a form of controlled opposition,

00:18:35.360 because every vote that, you know, that people checkmark for him is one less vote for the Conservatives.

00:18:43.280 And every vote for Mr. Bernier is essentially a vote for Mr. Trudeau. So, you know, Mr. Bernier's

00:18:50.720 had an axe to grind since he lost the leadership in 2017. And if he's successful with the vote split

00:18:57.840 issue, he'll get his prize, which is the defeat of the Conservatives. Mr. Trudeau will get his prize,

00:19:05.360 which is the possibility of a majority Liberal government. And Mr. O'Toole will lose his prize.

00:19:12.240 And that is the chance of becoming Prime Minister.

00:19:15.840 Yeah, well, somebody wrote on recently, you know, all these leaders kind of have their own

00:19:19.120 different prizes when you're looking at their own perspective. Like, I got a feeling Trudeau is coming

00:19:23.920 out of this kind of a loser, no matter how you look at it. I mean, he's kind of, he called this election to 0.97

00:19:27.920 chase the majority. Now, perhaps he's going to come back with another minority. But I don't think his core

00:19:32.800 supporters are going to be too thrilled that we went through this entire exercise to end up right

00:19:36.400 back where we started. Well, look, I agree with you. I think that if the Liberal Party

00:19:42.880 comes out of this election with fewer seats than what they went in with, it's going to make it 0.97

00:19:48.880 incredibly difficult for Mr. Trudeau to hang on. I think if he comes out where he is now, or with an

00:19:56.320 increased minority government, that he's most likely safe. We saw that in the past with Mr.

00:20:01.840 Harper when he'd won multiple minority governments and was able to sort of successfully increase the

00:20:07.520 overall support of those minority governments. But you know, I think the real issue in this case,

00:20:14.480 and it's one not a lot of people are talking about is that vote split issue. I really believe

00:20:19.440 that that can lead to a majority government. We saw that in the 1993, 1997 and 2000 federal elections,

00:20:26.880 where in the largest province in Canada, in Ontario, the Liberals were able to sweep the entire province

00:20:33.120 due to the vote split issue. And that allowed them to win, you know, successive majority governments.

00:20:40.400 So it's a real problem for voters that are of the Conservative Party persuasion.

00:20:45.440 And no matter what side you look on things or whatever it is, it's just been very interesting to

00:20:49.120 observe because, I mean, as you said, it's been underreported, but it's because there has been

00:20:53.280 almost a concerted effort to just pretend the PPC isn't there. And it actually kind of played in

00:20:58.640 their favour because they slid under the radar and captured those voters who don't watch the

00:21:03.040 mainstream media, who don't care what the mainstream media says. And if the mainstream media had been

00:21:07.760 paying attention, you know, maybe they'd been reporting on the PPC candidate who said he could 0.99

00:21:12.240 breathe in his testicles or things like that. And people might have a little bit of a different 0.99

00:21:16.080 impression of what they are. But it's been a backfire by pretending they aren't there. It's allowed

00:21:20.480 them to really establish themselves. Well, you're right. And so, you know, they do have some strange

00:21:25.360 candidates, you know, they have candidates that are talking about some strange practice of semen

00:21:30.480 retention. I'm not sure exactly how that works. And then you have other candidates calling for the

00:21:35.440 hanging of Canadian politicians. Then you have other candidates and representatives of that party

00:21:45.440 throwing rocks and gravel at members of the public at different events. And so you're right. I mean,

00:21:54.480 the media has not done a good job of reporting these issues and really sort of putting it out

00:22:01.440 there for people to examine and to really think about. And look, I mean, there's some blame to go

00:22:07.760 around here as well, not on the violence side of the issues, but when it comes to the vote split

00:22:13.760 itself possibilities. You know, the conservatives throughout this campaign now have had three or

00:22:22.080 four different positions when it comes to firearms over the course of a 36-day campaign. Last night,

00:22:30.640 they did some sort of a flip-flop on the issue of their carbon tax. So now they have, you know,

00:22:38.000 two different positions on the carbon tax, multiple positions on the firearms issue.

00:22:42.480 So as tempting as it is for conservative voters to want to be angry with the Liberal Party or with Mr.

00:22:48.880 Trudeau, in times like this, it's important to look in the mirror and to ask themselves, you know,

00:22:55.600 what could they have done better? And so multiple flip-flops on issues during the campaign has not

00:23:03.200 helped the conservative party cause at all in Canada. In fact, it's helped cast doubt. It's

00:23:10.000 helped depress their vote. It's helped create vote splits and it's been a real problem for them.

00:23:17.280 Yeah. Well, and to be fair, you know, there's some pretty kooky PPC candidates out there. That's what

00:23:21.920 happens when you get 300 people in a rush, but they've got some strong local ones too.

00:23:25.520 And some people with some good sense that are talking good sense and they're capitalizing well

00:23:29.200 on those flip-flops like you talked about. I mean, the firearms owners are very concerned

00:23:33.680 for their ability to retain firearms. You know, people in the West are very concerned about the

00:23:38.640 status of our energy sector. And again, you know, a vote isn't just split by somebody taking votes.

00:23:45.120 It means somebody else shed them. And if the conservatives hadn't alienated those people in

00:23:49.120 the first place, they wouldn't have lost them. Yeah. Well, I would go even a step further than that.

00:23:54.320 The issue in, I would argue, is that it's not like for, so for someone who's like a hardcore

00:23:59.760 libertarian, what you've described is accurate. But I would argue that the bigger problem is when you

00:24:07.120 say, you know, we support a carbon tax and people go, okay, I may or may not agree or disagree with

00:24:13.440 that, but they have a position. The problem is, is in the middle of the campaign, when they then reverse

00:24:19.200 themselves on that publicly stated position and say, well, actually this is now open to interpretation.

00:24:25.600 Same thing with the firearms issue. There's all kinds of people out there that were perhaps willing

00:24:29.600 to consider voting for the conservative party, you know, despite its historical support for firearms

00:24:37.520 related issues. The problem, once again, in this case is that when you take four different positions

00:24:44.000 over the course of a four week campaign, it leaves both conservative and liberal leaning voters sort

00:24:51.520 of wondering what your positions are and what they're going to be in the next 24 hours. And so I've always

00:24:58.080 argued it's important to pick a lane and stick with it rather than jump back and forth, especially in such

00:25:06.240 a short window, like where you have a four week campaign. It's just, you know, that just leads

00:25:11.760 to problems as what we're starting to see develop here over the last 48 hours.

00:25:16.640 Yeah. Well, a few things kill trust faster than flip flops. So we'll wrap it up there, Clinton. I

00:25:22.000 appreciate you joining me. So we're going to see you again on Monday and the time is running short.

00:25:26.880 I don't know if there's going to be any more bombshells between now and then, or if they're just going

00:25:30.000 to be a nose to the grindstone. So thank you for joining me from out there on the East Coast. And I'm

00:25:35.840 looking forward to interpreting the results when they come in soon. Excellent. Well, I'm looking

00:25:39.920 forward to chatting with you again and hearing from your viewers. Right on.

00:25:42.960 How was that?

Western Standard - September 17, 2021

The Cory Morgan Show with guest Clinton Desveaux

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