Western Standard - August 12, 2025


The EU's climate narrative — As scary as it sounds?


Episode Stats

Length

6 minutes

Words per Minute

136.29709

Word Count

931

Sentence Count

55


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, we talk to Dr. Michelle Sterling, Communications Manager for the Friends of Science Society. She says the climate emergency is high stakes, just not in the way you might imagine it. In this episode, Dr. Sterling talks about what's going on with climate change, and why it's not as simple as you might think.


Transcript

00:00:00.880 We are currently outside on what can be described as a moderately warm August day,
00:00:05.920 but this is contrary to what EU climate researchers have recently described as the third hottest July
00:00:12.080 on record. But the only problem is there is no global temperature. This is according to Michelle
00:00:18.320 Sterling, Communications Manager for the Friends of Science Society. She says the climate emergency
00:00:24.560 is high stakes, just not in the way you might imagine it. You know, the temperature has been
00:00:30.400 widely ranging and not in conjunction with CO2, sometimes, but usually not. So to actually get
00:00:38.960 accurate surface air temperature, you'd have to have a stack of thermometers about, you know, 50 feet high
00:00:45.360 and, you know, all over the place and then average out whatever those readings are. So it's almost
00:00:52.960 impossible to define a real surface air temperature. And if you look at the work of Roger PLK Sr.,
00:01:04.400 he shows that, you know, in the city, like for instance, in the inside London, England, the
00:01:10.320 temperature might be 11 degrees warmer than out in the country. You know, and that's very common.
00:01:15.920 It's known as the urban heat effect, urban heat island effect. So surface air temperature is a very
00:01:22.400 misleading kind of reading. And not to mention, once they aggregate all these different temperature
00:01:32.320 readings, they aggregate them, average them, and come up with a number. That's not the temperature
00:01:39.200 anymore. That's metric. And there's a very good paper by Dr. Ross McKittrick and Christopher Essex on the
00:01:50.400 fact that there's no global average temperature. Even though this is still used very commonly by the
00:01:58.800 climate community, that it is something that really doesn't exist. Because we a we don't have enough
00:02:07.040 temperature monitors that are equidistant around the world, that are all stable and all well maintained.
00:02:14.320 And B, it doesn't make sense because temperature operates locally and regionally.
00:02:22.640 It doesn't operate globally. You know, we, so by creating this kind of sense of global fear,
00:02:32.400 it makes people want to comply with the climate catastrophe. But when you look at the fact that
00:02:38.640 people live and work in the Arctic, in the Antarctic, in the tropics, out on the ocean, in the Rockies,
00:02:46.400 in Calgary, in Toronto, in Washington, all these places have extremely different temperature
00:02:52.720 variations during the day. You know, we're spending about 467 million dollars on climate policies,
00:03:02.000 initiatives between 2020 and 2030. That works out to over $11,000 per person, per resident of Canada.
00:03:13.200 So that's a huge burden. And there's no discernible benefit. I mean, like I said, if we're going to
00:03:19.520 reduce global warming in Canada, our Canadian temperatures in Canada by seven thousandths of a
00:03:26.640 degree Celsius by 2100, but we're paying millions and billions of dollars to do it, is it worth it?
00:03:35.040 What have we done? You know, China every week is building one or two coal plants.
00:03:40.320 You know, their emissions are more than anybody in the world. They're at least, I think, 38% of the
00:03:48.160 world's emissions come from China alone. And our emissions are 1.5%. You know, and now people will
00:03:55.120 say, oh, well, you know, we have to do our part. Well, if our part is inconsequential, like seven
00:04:01.520 thousandths of a degree Celsius, then what are we doing? Well, I think a lot of it is tied to
00:04:09.280 pension fund investments. And I think that these are things that nobody asks questions about. But
00:04:15.440 a lot of the big pension funds are signed up to what's called the United Nations Principle for
00:04:20.000 Responsible Investment. And it's about, it's like an umbrella body that has about, I don't know,
00:04:27.440 a thousand, maybe even more signatories now. And most of Canadian pensions, like the CPP,
00:04:37.440 the Keste Depot, BC Teachers Pension, most of the AIMCO in Alberta, which manages all the provincial
00:04:46.880 pension funds, they're all signed up to it. And this really sways where these investors put their
00:04:54.880 money. So by agreement, they are pushing for clean energy. At the same time, there's another group of
00:05:03.920 big green philanthropies. The biggest one is called Climate Works. And they are funding all the NGOs
00:05:11.600 to push for these policies as well, making it look as if it's like grassroots coming from the people.
00:05:17.040 So, you know, they spent the past probably 20 years or more, building this enormous infrastructure of
00:05:25.280 the investors, the ENGOs, the big green philanthropies, funding these projects, COP28,
00:05:32.960 I think it was, where they came up, you know, with the emissions cap. The Trottier Family Foundation CEO at
00:05:41.440 the time, who's now an MP, Eric St. Pierre, I believe his name is, he wrote an article in a philanthropy
00:05:51.760 magazine online. And he was saying, you know, how at COP28, they had funded most of the environmental
00:05:59.840 groups that were there. They were connected to all these state groups in the states, like Climate Alliance
00:06:06.240 100, and Climate Works, and, you know, that they were all working together. So it's definitely going
00:06:13.040 on here in Canada, too. That's, wow, that's crazy. And I feel like it's, even though it's wrong,
00:06:20.960 it's like very smart, because then they can wrap it up like they're doing something good for everyone.
00:06:25.920 Well, that's it. And that's what we see also with the environmental groups. Most of them are charities,
00:06:30.800 you know, so when you hear the word charity, you feel like, oh, they've got a big halo around there,
00:06:34.560 you know, on wings, and they're, they're saving the planet. So, of course, we should let them do
00:06:39.600 whatever they want.