Western Standard - May 31, 2025


The House of Commons is finally back in session. Nothing has changed.


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It's finally summer, which means it's time to get out of the winter clothes! Cory and his co-host, Dave Naylor, talk about the start of the summer, the upcoming municipal election, and the impending heat wave.

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00:00:29.320 Good day. Welcome to the Cory Morgan Show, take two. This will be the last of these Friday episodes, I'm afraid.
00:00:36.920 It was kind of a special we put on to cover the federal election. When we started these, we didn't even quite know when it was going to be called.
00:00:43.160 It's now behind us, and I'll give you guys a break. You'll just have to deal with me on Wednesdays from here on in.
00:00:48.100 But it's been a fun road with keeping these extra shows, covering a few extra subjects, having a few extra guests.
00:00:54.240 So we'll wrap things up, get ready for the summer.
00:00:57.780 There's still plenty of politics to cover,
00:00:59.320 but maybe we don't need to do it a couple of days a week,
00:01:01.580 at least out of me.
00:01:02.740 I'm going to have a mayoral candidate, Jeff Davison,
00:01:05.120 on in a little while for Calgary.
00:01:06.680 Don't want to forget that it is a municipal election year in Alberta.
00:01:12.960 So yeah, I know you don't get a break from election campaigns.
00:01:15.340 We've got a bunch of by-elections.
00:01:16.380 I'll talk a little bit about those later too.
00:01:18.720 And this fall, yeah, every town, every city you were looking for,
00:01:21.620 every Reeve and mayor are all standing for re-election or trying to get elected for the
00:01:26.400 first time. So Jeff Davison's one of the early ones out of the gate and he was a former city
00:01:30.000 councillor. So we'll set the tone there. And yeah, as I said in the cover of this,
00:01:33.720 the election's over. Parliament's sitting again. I watched Question Period the other day
00:01:38.860 and I'm happy to report that absolutely nothing has changed. It's an utter waste of time.
00:01:44.160 Mark Carney has learned the art of absolutely answering nothing. And you might as well just
00:01:49.440 put on reruns of Gilligan's Island or something for what it's worth. You're not going to get
00:01:52.880 anything out of the House of Commons. But I'll pick out and interpret what I can from what those
00:01:58.160 clowns say in there. But, you know, all this time, all this closed parliament running through an
00:02:05.120 election, then just get back in and you just see the same faces. One different one who doesn't
00:02:09.100 stammer quite as much as the former prime minister and his hair isn't quite as nice, but his answers
00:02:13.760 are pretty much just as vacuous. All right, let's get on to somebody who gives straight answers and
00:02:17.220 straight talk that's our news editor dave naylor and see what else is going on here hey dick for 0.91
00:02:21.380 one i'm sorry you're not going to be on friday anymore well i mean it's it's a mixed thing you
00:02:27.020 know it was good to be able to get that extra bit of coverage throughout the end of the week but
00:02:32.300 at the same time it's let people take a bit of a breather for the summer maybe in fall we'll
00:02:36.020 look at expanding years yeah well no breathers for the news though is it right in the g7
00:02:40.860 No, you don't get to escape.
00:02:42.580 And then the civic elections.
00:02:44.380 Good fun stuff.
00:02:46.480 And summer seems to have finally arrived.
00:02:49.380 I was thinking of you this week when I saw, I turned on my Alexa
00:02:53.500 and I asked it in the morning what the weather is.
00:02:55.880 And it started off, there was a warning, a heat warning out.
00:02:59.380 It's going to be 25 today.
00:03:01.160 Oh, no.
00:03:01.880 Oh, no, not 25.
00:03:03.420 And then, of course, all the weather maps had it in bright red, raging red.
00:03:09.840 Everything's an emergency.
00:03:11.360 You know, I saw that a couple weeks ago when it was just forecasted for some steady rain, rainfall warning.
00:03:16.240 Well, what, are we going to have a flood or is it lightning?
00:03:18.580 No, it's just going to rain, but it's a rainfall warning.
00:03:21.260 Well, thanks.
00:03:23.500 You know, unless it's going to hail, I don't really care about rain, right?
00:03:27.140 Yeah, well, and they call 25 a heat dome now and all that crap.
00:03:30.740 Like, guys, you know, we're a little past 30.
00:03:33.880 We hit those temperatures back in our youthful days.
00:03:37.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:03:37.600 Do you think the kids today are scared by all that red?
00:03:42.820 They should be, if that's all you've heard.
00:03:44.800 I mean, it sounds pretty terrifying, doesn't it?
00:03:46.020 It does.
00:03:46.460 Very, very terrifying.
00:03:48.200 Anyway, it's not a bad news morning for a Friday.
00:03:51.920 Our site right now, obviously leading off with your show,
00:03:56.300 but right underneath it, we've got an Abbotsford teacher
00:03:58.960 who was fired last year for saying that the Kamloops graves were a hoax.
00:04:07.040 kind of like you yeah so he's gets fired from his job so he's now written a book about his
00:04:12.860 situation jim mcmurtry i think his name is yeah so he's doing a book launch this afternoon uh out
00:04:18.780 in front of the school oh and and the school has sent him a nasty letter this morning saying you
00:04:25.560 don't want to do that and uh you know access to school act and all that sort of stuff but he's
00:04:32.340 vowing to go ahead so we've got the early story up there and we'll be following that through the
00:04:36.500 day, but it sounds like it could be up for a good ruckus. Yeah, well, maybe that'll be the first
00:04:40.620 grave actually goes into that school. It'll be Jim's. Oh, it'll be Jim's. You remember the big
00:04:47.240 AHS procurement scandal? I use the word scandal in quotation marks. They brought in an out-of-town 1.00
00:04:57.520 judge to go through the whole thing, and he was to have a final report done June 30th,
00:05:05.220 And they've now pushed that back to October, a long way back.
00:05:09.200 So, of course, the eyebrow gets raised.
00:05:11.560 And the government just says it's thousands and thousands of pages and numerous witnesses that the judge has to interview.
00:05:17.960 So you just couldn't get it done in time by the end of next month.
00:05:21.440 So let's push it back another four months.
00:05:23.580 This worries me.
00:05:24.540 And I'm optimistic about our provincial government.
00:05:27.120 I want them to do well, considering the alternative is ninchy.
00:05:29.620 But what it sounds a lot, the way they're playing it, is kind of like the Trudeau government did with the foreign interference scandal.
00:05:36.800 If we just push off enough little inquiries and investigations and drag our heels and flood it with paperwork and talk around it,
00:05:44.960 they're just going to hope the public loses interest.
00:05:47.140 Yeah, and the obvious thing to think about when it's moved back like that is, oh, they must have something to hide.
00:05:55.140 They may not, but that's what it appears like.
00:05:57.300 I mean, if they're talking, saying we've got nothing to hide,
00:05:59.780 that means, well, let's rush it and rip off that Band-Aid
00:06:01.900 and get it cleared so we can get on with our business.
00:06:03.900 Yeah.
00:06:05.800 So apparently, unbeknownst to me,
00:06:08.040 there is now going to be a Friday question period.
00:06:11.440 Normally, they only held it on Wednesdays,
00:06:13.360 and Fridays all the MPs got out of town to get back to their writings.
00:06:17.180 But it looks like they're going to be holding one on Friday morning.
00:06:20.260 And they had one today, and the Tories are outraged,
00:06:23.360 outraged, as you would expect, that the Trudeau's, not the Trudeau, the Kearney Liberals are going
00:06:30.400 ahead with half a trillion dollars worth of spending and not bringing in a budget.
00:06:36.100 The Tories say that's unacceptable, and I kind of agree with them.
00:06:40.180 Well, yeah, that's a lot of frigging money.
00:06:43.500 I mean, this is the banker.
00:06:45.140 This is the economic expert.
00:06:46.320 This is the messiah.
00:06:47.800 He's going to save Canada from economic doom, but he's incapable of a budget.
00:06:51.880 Yeah, we're going to budget update.
00:06:53.540 I mean, give us something, you guys.
00:06:55.300 Yeah, it's incredible.
00:06:56.440 We did get some good economic news this morning.
00:06:58.880 The GDP for the first quarter was up 2.2%.
00:07:02.560 It's thought that a lot of people did some spending to get ahead of the tariffs.
00:07:08.960 And now the trouble is coming.
00:07:12.160 And it was the TD Bank this morning says we'll be soon in a recession and could lose 100,000 jobs.
00:07:17.840 So happy days are here again.
00:07:19.380 We've got our columnist, Anthony Barber, is taking a look at why Kearney seems to be more Eurocentric than Trudeau.
00:07:29.020 He wants Canada to move more towards Europe.
00:07:32.380 And Barber argues that Europe's on its path of destruction with out-of-control immigration and whatnot there.
00:07:40.400 So he's got a good column there.
00:07:43.020 We've got wildfire smoke advisories across six provinces.
00:07:47.120 It's bad.
00:07:48.280 It's bad. All across the prairies are in heat and just hundreds and hundreds of out-of-control wildfires.
00:07:58.640 Fortunately, the smoke hasn't reached Calgary yet.
00:08:00.720 Yeah, I got to admit, you know, not so much to play in.
00:08:04.320 There's a lot of discussion and talk about it and everything.
00:08:06.240 But something that seems to have changed this last 10, 15 years, we have had a lot more fires.
00:08:10.560 They've been burning with more intensity.
00:08:12.120 I mean, there's people's perhaps some reasonable, you know, statements like we haven't been allowing them to burn.
00:08:17.980 and thus it eventually happens, they get more intense and things like that.
00:08:20.900 Maybe there is some global warming happening, whether or not humans cause it.
00:08:23.480 I mean, it's a whole separate rabbit hole.
00:08:25.300 But, you know, I remember lots of hot days as a kid,
00:08:27.580 but I don't remember as many smoky days as we've seen this last 10 years.
00:08:31.040 No, it's usually pretty bad in Calgary too.
00:08:34.420 And, you know, you saw like with Jasper,
00:08:37.960 the forests are getting naturally laden down with the fire materials,
00:08:42.800 all the dead branches and stuff like that.
00:08:44.600 So when they do go, it's, you know, they go.
00:08:47.600 I've talked about that. It's one of my little YouTube channel videos I did years ago. This
00:08:52.560 was before I even worked at The Standard, but I got so frustrated because lucky me, David Swan
00:08:56.720 lives out in Curtis where I am and he opposes everything. He's an environmental nut and there's
00:09:03.600 some logging that was going to happen on the trunk road down south of the snow. He was getting people
00:09:07.360 together on why we must not do it. I went out and I shot a video and I showed like for one,
00:09:11.840 here's where the logging has been done already. This is not a national park, guys. They replanted,
00:09:17.360 it might look a little ugly but here's the spots where they haven't logged and it's just
00:09:21.360 tangled and thick with dead growth like when you know i say that if we don't walk it it's gonna
00:09:27.120 burn it's not a matter of if it's when it's all mother nature's plan isn't it she's good at what 0.89
00:09:32.880 she does she is and uh our top story of the day right now is uh danielle smith last night at the
00:09:40.080 leaders calgary dinner uh was asked when she's going to draw the line with ottawa in the sand
00:09:45.680 and she said Sunday. On Sunday, Mark Carney is flying into Calgary to meet with energy
00:09:53.440 company leaders. So I guess on Monday afternoon or evening or whenever he
00:09:59.840 deems to speak to the media, we should know what he thinks about energy and oil and gas and pipelines.
00:10:06.560 Oh, I'm sure he'll be just as clear as he was in question period.
00:10:08.960 yes hopefully uh hopefully not and uh you know smith is riding a wave of good news this week
00:10:16.060 a big uh cbc janet brown uh poll was out showing she's kicking uh nenshi's butt uh 52 percent
00:10:24.460 approval rating uh nenshi i think 38 uh so yeah she's uh she seems to be on cruise control right 0.81
00:10:31.440 now doing well well yeah for her i mean and part of it too is i don't know if i mean i and again
00:10:35.720 Yeah, I like the ACP for the most part, but I don't know if they're doing all that well.
00:10:38.800 It's just that Nenshi's just not inspiring him.
00:10:40.580 No, no.
00:10:41.480 Well, I guess we'll see when he gets in, or if he gets in on the by-election.
00:10:45.900 Tough not to in Strathcala.
00:10:47.480 Yeah, probably one of the most NDP writings around.
00:10:51.640 But yeah, you know, in fair dues, it's a lot more, you get a lot more visibility in question period.
00:10:58.700 True enough.
00:10:59.480 We'll see if that nasally voice in question period is going to endear them to Albertans or turn them the other way.
00:11:06.820 Yes.
00:11:08.460 You know what you and I would think.
00:11:10.700 Yeah, yeah.
00:11:11.620 Well, that's why I'm an opinion guy anyways.
00:11:14.420 I'm interested in your guest, Jeff Davison, today.
00:11:18.260 We were talking just before the show.
00:11:20.280 I worry deeply that Gondek's going to get back in.
00:11:23.380 It's a real concern.
00:11:25.460 We're going to end up with a dozen mayoral candidates all with different strengths.
00:11:29.480 and the potential Gondek winning with 20-25% just because she's the incumbent cornering that. 0.97
00:11:35.620 We'll see.
00:11:36.120 But what are you supposed to do?
00:11:37.320 Tell people not to run?
00:11:39.020 Yes.
00:11:39.900 Well, hopefully some of them get together and figure it out.
00:11:42.380 Look, okay, maybe I'll drop out and you go ahead.
00:11:46.120 But you get several right-wing candidates and the left-wing always wins due to votes.
00:11:52.000 Yeah, well, it's early in the game.
00:11:54.320 We'll see.
00:11:54.680 I'll ask, you know, Mr. Davis and how he's looking to stand out and try and consolidate them.
00:11:58.220 It's part of his campaign, of course.
00:12:00.280 His intent isn't to put Gondek back.
00:12:02.460 No, that's enough to give
00:12:04.200 one sleepless nights all the way
00:12:06.160 through October. Oh, yeah, only four years.
00:12:08.680 Well, we'll see. We'll see.
00:12:10.320 All right, thanks, Dave. I'll let you get back
00:12:12.260 to the newsroom to get stuff
00:12:14.220 up for the weekend and take advantage
00:12:16.200 of that, wouldn't it? Exactly. Get out of here
00:12:17.940 early today, because Derek's not
00:12:20.200 in. Yeah, and he's never watching. He's never watching,
00:12:22.440 so he won't know. Right.
00:12:24.360 All right, thanks, Dave. You bet.
00:12:26.100 So, yeah, this is our news editor, Dave Naylor,
00:12:27.740 and yes, lots going
00:12:29.860 on, lots going up and being
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00:13:17.340 so we can keep getting these shows out there uh ruckin yes hey cory you have could you have
00:13:24.460 someone from the CTPF on your show to discuss current taxation as compared to what an independent
00:13:29.160 Alberta could look like? Oh, I can, okay. Taxpayers, they usually go by CTF, Canadian
00:13:34.500 Taxpayers Federation. Yeah, I'll probably have Franco Tarrazzano or somebody on. I mean, I have
00:13:40.700 them on quite regularly, you know, once every couple of months or month or two, and that's one
00:13:44.520 of the issues going on. They don't kind of take sides. They're, you know, a national organization,
00:13:48.600 but I'm certain he could answer some of those questions anyways. Absolutely.
00:13:53.060 um unaffordable housing we got and other stuff going on let's see oh and somebody's saying he's
00:14:02.460 going to inform daryl that we both skipped out early well that's all right daryl doesn't care
00:14:07.200 whoever he is all right so yeah let's see what else we've got going on if i you know
00:14:13.360 carney i i just the man's got to move so uh daniel smith has has drawn the line in the sand as dave
00:14:21.680 said, he pointed out. And she said by Sunday, dude, you got to get on something solid. No more
00:14:26.840 wishy-washy crap. No more. I support pipelines, sort of, kind of, maybe. And it's played out well
00:14:34.480 for Premier Smith. I mean, she's actually, as I was talking with Dave too, they want to distract
00:14:38.800 from this Alberta Health Services procurement mess that's going on, whatever the heck is going
00:14:42.620 on there. So, hey, what better way than to get into a nice big scrap with Ottawa? And Ottawa's
00:14:48.640 providing all of the reasons for it. Joe Mills pointing out Carney will always put Brookfield's
00:14:54.440 interests ahead of Canadians. It's a real issue with Carney. You know, with Brookfield, he was
00:14:58.960 tied in and it's a diverse company, whatever, whether it's honest or not honest, they've got
00:15:03.540 their fingers in everything. So while yes, he's distanced himself from the management of that now,
00:15:09.620 it's hard not to read a possible conflict of interest in pretty much anything he does.
00:15:15.480 There's part of the problem when you bring in a prime minister or a premier or anybody really who has a long business history and some of their actions might seem a lot more like they're self-serving rather than serving the country.
00:15:26.120 Hardly anything new for political leaders, though, is it?
00:15:29.020 So he's coming out.
00:15:30.200 He's going to be out in Saskatoon on, I believe it's July 2nd or 3rd, and that's a first minister's conference.
00:15:38.440 So all of the premiers are going to be in one spot with the prime minister.
00:15:41.660 And he's got a lot to try and do.
00:15:44.420 Part of it was he was saying he's going to get rid of interprovincial trade barriers.
00:15:47.500 Well, you better start talking to them.
00:15:49.100 Are you going to show leadership?
00:15:50.020 Are you going to convince them?
00:15:50.780 Are you going to allow provinces to keep fighting with each other and blocking trade?
00:15:54.960 There's some of the irony.
00:15:57.040 You talk about this federation.
00:15:58.560 We're all supposed to be better off all together in this big umbrella of Canada.
00:16:01.540 Beautiful.
00:16:01.860 But you allow provinces to shut off products and trade from each other, whether it's pipelines or dairy products or wine or beer, then we're not really a federation.
00:16:12.200 See, this is the stuff that helps feed the independence movement.
00:16:14.500 When we can point out to people, can it be any worse?
00:16:17.620 I mean, we can negotiate new deals as an independent province
00:16:20.640 because we're not getting good deals in the current one.
00:16:22.820 Under our constitution, provinces aren't supposed to be able to hinder trade between each other.
00:16:31.760 That's the point of a federation.
00:16:33.460 and uh if uh if the federal government doesn't at least fulfill that role as kind of a central
00:16:42.820 arbitrator on that sort of thing again it gets people asking well what's the point
00:16:46.060 i don't know i don't see the point but we know where i stand with things so i mean also just
00:16:50.720 a plug for something else on on um in saskatchewan as well despite coincidence on monday the second
00:16:56.740 I'm going to be in Regina.
00:16:58.160 There's an emergency rally being put on by Rebel Media, actually,
00:17:03.820 and I'll be one of the speakers at that event that evening.
00:17:06.620 So you can check that out if you're interested.
00:17:08.340 Because the independence movement in Saskatchewan is as strong
00:17:11.420 or support for it as in Alberta.
00:17:15.600 And I'm really looking forward to actually talking to some people there,
00:17:20.220 listening to some people there.
00:17:22.420 The last thing they need is necessarily another person from out of province 1.00
00:17:25.220 telling them how they should govern their affairs. I don't think that's the point of what this
00:17:28.180 event is. I want to find out exactly what their concerns are, which are very similar to Alberta's
00:17:35.120 concerns, of course, but I'm certain there's going to be some differences as well. They're not,
00:17:39.460 they don't quite have the amount of organization on the ground yet. Nadine Ness has been working
00:17:43.860 really hard out there. And I suspect it'll form as that sentiment goes. And Scott Moe has been
00:17:49.340 battling Ottawa quite valiantly as a premier as well. And probably not going to get anywhere.
00:17:58.300 Just how many times we got to get the wool pulled over our eyes? You know, well, not so much us.
00:18:02.340 Well, some of us in the West even, you know, voted liberal. That's why I just gave this
00:18:07.160 sour note to start off in the House of Commons sitting yet again, and nothing changed. This was
00:18:14.040 supposed to be the big seminal election. This was the one. We're getting away from 10 years of
00:18:18.400 Trudeau's incompetent, vacuous leadership, his economy crushing management, his inept DEI
00:18:25.920 cabinet. And Carney painted himself as the man who was going to do all of those things.
00:18:31.720 And he hasn't done a damn one of them. He sounds just like Trudeau. You know, so we're back into
00:18:40.620 it. As Dave said, possibly even worse, Trudeau released a budget. 500 billion, folks, of spending
00:18:46.220 they've decided to put out. No budget. We are going to be up the creek, you guys. As Dave was
00:18:54.480 pointing out, TD Bank is saying we're running into a recession. We could be losing 100,000 jobs soon.
00:18:59.720 Most of those job losses are going to end up coming out of central Canada. So guess what
00:19:03.100 they're going to do? They're going to milk the West some more. They always do. That's the way
00:19:06.940 it works. And then independent sentiment is only going to rise. We're getting tired of bailing out
00:19:12.660 Canada because of the economic damage caused by the governments that central Canada keeps
00:19:18.680 insisting on electing. How much more can we take? How much more can we afford? 0.53
00:19:26.040 And this is a, this is speaking of Canada, you know, Canadian Taxpayers Federation,
00:19:29.160 Franco put this out, the federal bureaucracy. It's expanded to 98,986 employees in the last
00:19:37.180 decade. And that's just the expansion. So now there's like 360,000 civil servants in Canada,
00:19:46.900 federally, just federally. What the hell are they doing? How many months does it take to renew a
00:19:53.040 bloody passport? How long does it take to manage to immigrate into this country? They're incompetent, 1.00
00:19:58.300 they're terrible, they're bloated, they're expensive, and they're getting worse, and we're
00:20:02.320 paying for it. Where are they all? Central Canada. This is how they artificially shore up the economy.
00:20:09.580 This is how they try to make it look like we are functional. They borrow money, they suck money out
00:20:14.580 of the productive provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan, and then they hire thousands of
00:20:18.820 people to buy electoral love in Quebec and Ontario, but we can't sustain this much longer.
00:20:25.420 I mean, the average full-time federal employee, here's some of the numbers from Franco as well,
00:20:31.560 125,300 a year. Yeah. 360,000 of them, and they're averaging 125,000 a year. Not bad work
00:20:44.460 if you can get it, eh? And I've seen those things, ads for civil service jobs, provincially,
00:20:49.440 federal, or municipally in that too. And they talk about now an average work week is 35 hours.
00:20:56.460 And of course, these guys get four weeks of vacation. They get a plethora of sick days.
00:21:00.360 They're doing 10% of the work and making twice as much as you do.
00:21:03.400 How does that feel?
00:21:05.400 You know, how much would we lose as individuals cutting those clowns by half?
00:21:12.700 Really?
00:21:13.620 Seriously?
00:21:14.980 You know, one of the, you know, I've been very critical of Trump and I already mean so.
00:21:19.960 But, and things have to be done with a degree of planning and nuance.
00:21:23.520 But I tell you what, the doge idea was a smart one. 0.98
00:21:26.840 They got the same problem in the States.
00:21:28.040 these bloated government institutions that do nothing but bleed. They're parasitic.
00:21:34.180 They slow the economy. They harm the productive. And they keep us from managing to get anything
00:21:40.540 accomplished. And you've got to get in there with some courage and cut them, cut them heavily.
00:21:47.100 Now, cutting them blindly can lead to some problems. But, you know, a corporation can
00:21:53.560 managed to do it with proper care and diligence. It's time it happened to Canada, but Carnegie's
00:21:58.280 not going to do it. So look at this wall we're moving towards, guys. I know they're all patting
00:22:03.280 themselves on the back. They're crowing. Look at that. The first quarter of 2025, the GDP grew by
00:22:08.980 2.2%. Great. But as Dave pointed out, much of that is due because with the tariffs coming and
00:22:17.680 going and everything else, as things were coming, a lot of businesses, let's get all our spending
00:22:21.100 done right now. Let's buy, let's sit on things so we don't have to pay the tariffs on these that
00:22:29.120 are going to be coming later. It was a bit of a short-term rush, but that's not going to last
00:22:32.540 much longer. That's just a hiccup. And the other thing is, well, legacy media to their federal
00:22:40.300 masters loves to pump up anything that looks positive over the federal government. They always
00:22:45.000 overlook that GDP per capita thing. And that's the one I harp on about because it's so important.
00:22:50.020 gross domestic product per capita. That's the amount of economic activity per person in the
00:22:56.160 country, and Canada is swirling the toilet. We are down and dropping and continuing to.
00:23:03.860 A large part of it, all of these things that Carney keeps talking about saying he's going to
00:23:07.400 do what he won't do. We're sitting on some of the largest deposits of natural resources in the world,
00:23:12.300 but Mark Carney doesn't have the balls to actually let us develop them further.
00:23:16.800 We have a large consumer market within our own country, but Carney won't have the courage to
00:23:23.720 rip down the trade barriers from province to province to increase that sort of thing happening
00:23:29.740 here. And as I said with the House of Commons, if you watched that question period the other day,
00:23:33.400 I don't know, boy, I do recommend if anybody's never watched it, they should watch it,
00:23:36.920 but also just to see how pointless it really is to expect much of those people in there.
00:23:41.360 Carney was questioned on the tariffs because he secretly dropped a lot of the Canadian
00:23:46.120 counter-tariffs towards the end of the election. He actually cut them, didn't tell anybody about
00:23:51.000 it, which is fine. Counter-tariffs are stupid. It's your way of saying, I'll punch myself in
00:23:55.140 the balls harder and you punch yourself in the balls and let's just do it until somebody hurts
00:23:58.500 enough that they stop. Well, we stopped, so good for you. But at the same time, Carney's in the
00:24:04.260 House of Commons claiming that the tariffs are going to raise $20 billion to help cover all his
00:24:10.460 spending promises. Well, wait a minute. You got rid of the tariffs. And he was questioned about
00:24:16.280 that in the House of Commons at question period. And all he did was give out another stock line
00:24:21.640 saying these are the best tariffs. They're going to bring the United States to their knees
00:24:24.520 and we are paying all our bills of their tariffs. In fact, he sounded a lot like Trump. He just
00:24:28.320 ignored the reality of something that was and just completely lied in response to it. So what's the
00:24:34.160 point of question period if they're just going to turn to you and lie? They're not even going to
00:24:40.080 Acknowledge the question you threw at him. You dropped the tariffs, Mr. Carney. Good. But what
00:24:46.580 are you going to do now since you budgeted for the revenue that was supposed to come from them?
00:24:50.940 And what he did was just pretended he didn't drop them. And, you know, here's Pexarity.
00:24:58.840 Different names you guys give in the company. The question period thing is such BS. The liberals
00:25:02.620 aren't obligated to answer any questions. They just say something that's considered an answer.
00:25:05.980 why bother to ask? I know it's really devolved into theater and it's not just the liberals
00:25:11.680 guilty of it. That's what gets frustrating with our system in general, right? Conservatives are
00:25:15.620 just as bad at stonewalling when they get in power too, and they respond often with mockery rather
00:25:20.740 than an answer. And it just leaves people dejected. But the problem is when we get too dejected and
00:25:26.780 people disconnect from the system and they stop taking part, then the politicians really get away
00:25:31.960 and everything so so i don't think watching question period every day helps but at the same
00:25:36.880 time we've got to keep an eye on things northern gal pointing out in the comments saying better to 1.00
00:25:42.060 watch committees question periods a waste of time and that's true and committee work is where the
00:25:46.540 nuts and bolts of our government really happen and i'll throw a plug to black locks reporter 0.99
00:25:52.300 uh they're the the media outlet you know where we get a a lot of our stories from and through
00:25:56.800 because they really dig into committee notes and things like that. When policy is really actually
00:26:02.360 being formulated and they're doing amendments and they're determining things or determining
00:26:06.020 government actions, most of that happens in committee, not in the House of Commons.
00:26:11.320 And the committees can be boring as all get out. That's part of the problem. But if you really
00:26:15.100 want to see where something's going and who's controlling it, the committees are where the
00:26:20.180 real action kind of happens. And a lot of that is available online. It's streaming. If you go to the
00:26:24.960 House of Commons, if you've got time on your hands. But you get to see a little bit of what's
00:26:30.140 happening. But yeah, Premier Smith, I mean, she's kind of sitting happy in some ways. She had that
00:26:34.880 meeting, 2,000 people for a leader's dinner in Calgary. And I don't know what it costs,
00:26:39.600 four or 500 bucks a plate or so. Pretty healthy fundraiser. And is apparently the largest one
00:26:45.520 ever held in Alberta. And playing a lot, I guess, to our regional division. David Bexty,
00:26:54.020 is his uh he's a new member of parliament for alberta there's one of the things you get out
00:26:58.820 of there i guess it wasn't uh question perry but it was his main speech to the house of commons
00:27:04.740 and he said westerners would like to rip the place down and rebuild canada these are federal
00:27:08.900 politicians talking this is interesting he said alberta separatism is no longer a fringe idea
00:27:15.940 and he won his writing with 79 by the way he said i come to the house with one of the strongest
00:27:22.100 mandates in the nation. He said, I earned it by promising to rip this place down to the studs and 0.99
00:27:26.940 start rebuilding the country we can recognize again. He was a farmer and oil exec. He said
00:27:33.160 he heard the separatism, more doors than he can count. And he said, Alberta staying in confederation
00:27:39.180 is not up to me, it's not up to the liberals, it's up to the people of Alberta. And the Albertans
00:27:43.720 know they have options. This discussion, the dismissiveness, the battle against the independence
00:27:50.380 movement has been interesting to watch. And they're trying to pretend it isn't there. Guys,
00:27:56.680 the lowest polls, lowest have it near 30%, right? I can't, you know, with listening to legacy media,
00:28:05.000 I torture myself listening to their shows and things like that. And they talk, well, see,
00:28:08.100 it's only 30%. It's nothing to worry about. Guys, at its lowest, one in three people in this
00:28:13.060 province and in Saskatchewan want the hell out of the federation. That is not something you dismiss.
00:28:20.380 That is a groundswell.
00:28:23.260 That is an embarrassment.
00:28:24.360 That is a sign of a broken country.
00:28:28.260 Drew Mitchell, a commenter, saying,
00:28:29.580 yeah, tell me again, Canada isn't broken.
00:28:31.800 Alberta independence is the only way.
00:28:33.000 Canada is broken.
00:28:34.480 It's not working right.
00:28:37.300 It's a vortex.
00:28:38.620 It sucks all resources into the center 0.81
00:28:40.780 and the power into the center.
00:28:42.920 And it leads to more frustration.
00:28:45.320 And it's going to lead to the dissolution
00:28:48.540 of this country eventually.
00:28:50.100 It's just a matter of how.
00:28:51.800 But pretending it's not significant at 30%,
00:28:54.240 well, again, as an independent supporter,
00:28:56.360 I said, great, carry on, keep doing it.
00:28:58.160 But it's not going to win.
00:29:00.280 Here's again with Kearney and the lack of courage.
00:29:02.820 And the Bloc Quebecois, here's some,
00:29:04.240 they stand up for themselves.
00:29:08.480 And they're willing to basically say Quebec first.
00:29:12.340 They don't care about anybody else.
00:29:13.700 Okay, you don't have to like them,
00:29:15.080 but they're correct in doing what they do.
00:29:17.500 They put a dairy bill forward.
00:29:19.540 to entrench further supply management, dairy supply management, which is that ripoff system
00:29:27.720 that forces farmers to pour billions of liters of milk down the drain over the years. Yeah,
00:29:34.720 literally. And it raises the prices artificially on dairy products. Canadians are paying billions
00:29:41.700 and billions more for food over time because dairy and poultry are artificially kept up by cartels
00:29:47.220 and limited licenses for that. It's a sick Soviet style policy is what it is. It's embarrassing. 0.93
00:29:54.620 Australia and New Zealand used to have crappy supply management policies like that. They got
00:29:58.360 rid of them. All those parasitic farmers who depended on price fixing to get by said the
00:30:02.660 world's going to end. The world's going to end. Guess what? Their industry's got stronger.
00:30:07.160 But in Canada, we're entrenching it. Why are we entrenching it though? Well, guess what? They're
00:30:11.960 in Quebec. And that's part of why the bloc is pushing for this. But Carney said he endorsed
00:30:18.640 the bill. He endorsed the bill. Now, Carney said a couple of things before. Well, he's always been
00:30:24.580 too scared. And the conservatives are too scared to attack supply management too, by the way. Both
00:30:28.900 federal parties are too cowardly to take it on. But he said he's going to get rid of interprovincial
00:30:34.840 trade barriers. Well, that's a huge one. It's a huge one. Because the federal supply management
00:30:39.260 system forces all these different little provincial cartels to set up across the country
00:30:43.600 and then bans the export of dairy goods between the provinces. It's the exact definition of
00:30:50.020 interprovincial trade barriers. And he won't do anything about it. So, you know, Northern Gal 0.95
00:30:58.320 saying, yeah, the block said the other day that they don't want those dirty pipelines, perhaps
00:31:02.380 stop the dirty transfer payment. See, that's the frustrating truth of it. I was on Ex-Steven
00:31:10.880 Meganetica, I'm pronouncing his name wrong, going on, oh, you want it both ways, because I was
00:31:15.740 saying, you know, if we stop pouring this equalization into Quebec, maybe they would
00:31:19.980 develop their own gas fields. He's pointing out it's provincial jurisdiction on the oil and gas,
00:31:23.720 Quebec can choose whether or not to develop their gas fields. That's absolutely true.
00:31:28.300 But they shouldn't be able to make their choice based on parasitically sucking the money out of 0.84
00:31:32.280 our ballets so that they can afford not to develop the gas in their own bloody province.
00:31:37.780 It's a welfare bum sitting on top of a pile of gold that refuses to spend it and you're forced
00:31:43.680 to keep giving them money. It's got to stop. It's ridiculous that we're giving equalization
00:31:49.880 to Quebec. It really is. Yet here we are. Joe Mills saying, Quebec has to realize and appreciate
00:31:56.700 where their energy comes from. Yeah, they don't because we subsidize them. We get to do all the
00:32:02.260 work, they get to take all the money. Fantastic deal, isn't it? We need more politicians to speak 1.00
00:32:07.660 up like Mr. Bextie and sound like the bloc politicians. Say, you know what? I don't give a
00:32:12.780 shit about what the rest of the country wants anymore. I'm here to represent Alberta. I'm here
00:32:18.180 to represent my constituents. I got my mandate from them. It's going to be hard on Polyav 1.00
00:32:22.840 because he's got to try and campaign to the whole country. But hey, he wanted the big job here.
00:32:28.060 that's what you're going to have to deal with. So yeah, we're going to change that. And the
00:32:33.340 supply management screws us on foreign trade deals with the United States. It screwed us
00:32:37.160 on foreign trade deals with Europe, Great Britain, because we, again, artificially protect our dairy
00:32:43.880 market and we've lost out on big, big trade agreements because of it. Why? Quebec. Every
00:32:50.520 time it comes down to Quebec. So if you're expecting anything to change, guys, don't hold
00:32:56.880 your breath on it. Uh, getting on a few of those things. So, I mean, there's, there's a bunch of
00:33:00.640 by-elections in Alberta. Practically none of them are interesting in a sense. Uh, uh,
00:33:08.200 Karney, Pierre Polyev is going to run again, you know, as we know in, in the federal one
00:33:12.640 in, uh, Alberta up, up North. He's, they won by 80% the last time he's going to win it again.
00:33:17.660 That's a done deal. The head Nenshi is running in Edmonton, uh, Strathcona. Again, Notley won
00:33:23.840 that with, I think, in the high 70s of percent with the NDP, they're going to win that easily
00:33:28.800 enough. Edmonton Ellerslie is up, same thing, 60-some percent, I believe, for the NDP. The NDP
00:33:33.700 will take that too. The only one that's kind of interesting is Olds Didsbury Free Hills.
00:33:38.840 So Alberta's speaker, Nathan Cooper, left that seat, and that was another conservative one with
00:33:44.800 over 80% support provincially. And he is going to be going down to working in Washington. So
00:33:52.980 let's open it up. Now there's a by-election. It's been called. Now, that constituency,
00:34:00.460 Old Stidsbury-Three Hills, is the most independence-minded constituency in the West.
00:34:05.700 They actually elected Gord Kessler many years ago as a Western Canada concept MLA. It didn't
00:34:11.300 last too long, but I mean, nowhere else did they even elect one. And so if there's going to be a
00:34:17.560 spot that independence movement kind of makes a blip. It'll be in that, but I don't know if it's
00:34:23.340 going to be good for the independence movement. And I'll explain a little further in a moment here.
00:34:28.140 So by-elections are interesting because they usually got really low turnout, especially this
00:34:33.540 one that's going to be running through June. I mean, people are distracted and so on. The
00:34:36.520 turnout is going to probably be very low. Also, people often will use a by-election to send
00:34:41.940 a message. They're not too worried about it, right? No matter what you vote on in a by-election,
00:34:45.660 it's not going to change the government. You're not going to accidentally put the NDP in or
00:34:49.820 something like that. So it's like, yeah, you know what? I'll throw one at this kind of protest
00:34:54.060 candidate. The problem is the ones lining themselves up as the protest candidate are the
00:35:00.660 ill-named Republican Party of Alberta. Somebody's poured a whole load of money into those guys
00:35:06.800 because I tell you, I've been doing speaking events all over the province and I'm really
00:35:10.740 hard-pressed to find anybody who actually likes them, but they seem to have a bottomless pot of
00:35:16.160 money, so they're showing up and making a lot of noise. Now, with a lot of votes happening
00:35:24.580 in Olds Didsbury Freehills, Cam Davies, who got himself acclaimed as a leader, shocker,
00:35:31.120 acclaimed as the candidate, shocker, he's going to be running in Olds Didsbury Freehills. Now,
00:35:37.880 for starters just the name of it republican party why why were you dividing an already
00:35:44.360 divided movement because not every independence-minded person in the west wants to be
00:35:49.800 tied or associated with an american government or party and just what are you pushing for in there
00:35:56.940 as you see i'm seeing some of the commenters you know tyler volstadt cam davies is a snake ryan b
00:36:01.260 a vote for davies is a vote for the ndp this is the messaging i'm getting about him all over the
00:36:04.940 place, but they aren't going away. They're well-funded and they're running in this election.
00:36:09.940 So we lose either way as independent supporters. Let's say he comes in and does really well and
00:36:15.100 gets 30% support there. 30% support for an independence candidate in Alberta would be
00:36:19.640 the largest by a long shot. He still wouldn't win, but it'd be the largest we've seen since the 80s.
00:36:26.220 You think that's good for independence, right? Not exactly. Because for one, it's the strongest
00:36:34.920 independence-minded constituency in all of Alberta. It should be higher than that. And I doubt it will
00:36:41.000 be because people just don't trust that party. But it will still give them a degree of credibility
00:36:45.720 and the bloody party won't go away, which is going to turn into a real problem. I'll explain a little
00:36:50.080 further as we go. If they come in really crappy at 5% or 10%, again, the opponents of independence
00:36:56.540 are going to say, look at that. An independence party couldn't even crack 10% in the strongest
00:37:01.420 independence constituency in all of Alberta. The movement's obviously nothing. We lose either way.
00:37:08.800 The absolute worst thing is he gets himself a seat, because then you've got him in there again
00:37:13.720 established. But again, he's not endearing himself to people. We're seeing that already. He's been
00:37:18.160 going all over the place. So he'd be in there, though, and he'd have a voice, and they would
00:37:22.460 pull maybe 10% support when we get to a general election. You know what 10% in a general election
00:37:29.920 is in Alberta, it's the tipping point to make Nahed Nenshi the premier of the province.
00:37:36.260 That's what'll turn Alberta NDP. For what? For what? What are we gaining out of this Republican
00:37:44.000 party? Ryan B., a commenter, just said it exactly right. Smith has been exceptional as she sets the
00:37:49.880 table for a referendum. We can't lose her. We don't need any more action on the independence
00:37:55.620 front from the provincial government she's given us all we need she's given us the mechanism she's
00:38:01.780 given us uh the ability to hold the vote and do it so let's get on with that don't get them messing
00:38:10.260 around with political parties we got five independence parties out there five of them
00:38:15.220 and what is it going to do mo6 c9m say why are you attacking people who are on board with independence
00:38:20.020 because they're screwing the movement. That's why. I don't, I'm not here to support the people.
00:38:26.620 I'm here to support the movement. And when we've got one group that is out there souring people on
00:38:32.940 it all over the place, it's not helping when it's splitting it, when it's dividing it,
00:38:38.280 when it's setting it back. We don't need more than the referendum ability right now.
00:38:44.900 Premier Smith has a whole heck of a lot of things she has to do. 0.91
00:38:47.160 and uh you know went towards a pension plan rcmp balancing the alberta budget i've been on her case
00:38:54.040 she bloody well should by now many many things as far as independence goes now it's in our lap 0.99
00:39:00.160 we've got the ability for a referendum and uh okay ammo 69cm so here's a commenter i like his
00:39:08.240 version versus smith's a sovereign alberta within a dysfunctional canada okay do you like his version
00:39:14.200 of Premier Nenshi never letting us have a referendum again. And we're not going to get
00:39:21.140 a referendum for trying to win provincial seats. The referendum is a standalone effort. Don't spend
00:39:28.400 a million dollars trying to win seats when you've already got the referendum ability. Don't get the
00:39:32.520 volunteers and tire them out chasing around provincial seats, splitting the vote, putting
00:39:36.280 the NDP in when we've got the referendum ability. Put that energy into the referendum because it's
00:39:40.960 the one and only mechanism we've got. Everything else is pissing in the wind. But he has the right
00:39:48.700 to run. The party has the right to go. We'll see what happens with it. That's up to those voters
00:39:53.440 in Olds Didsbury Three Hills. I hate to say, but yes, I just don't feel terribly optimistic about
00:39:58.260 either outcome in that. In the meantime, I hope the other groups and folks stay centered and focused
00:40:06.620 on working towards a referendum
00:40:08.580 instead of messing around with these side things.
00:40:11.700 Here's part of what has been good anyways
00:40:13.620 is the question has really been coming up more than ever
00:40:15.800 and maybe waking up a few people in Canada
00:40:18.860 in government in general.
00:40:22.340 And this was in the Senate with some of the discussions.
00:40:24.480 Yeah, our sleepy Senate.
00:40:26.600 And there was discussions
00:40:29.320 on whether the Clarity Act applies to all provinces
00:40:31.220 and the Senator had to admit that it does.
00:40:33.000 and uh you know we typically won't have those sorts of conversations going on in that house
00:40:39.740 and maybe it would just make some more people uh reevaluate their policies as i said if if you're
00:40:47.260 opposed to albert independence and you know what the majority of people are still at this point
00:40:51.140 and particularly in central canada in the federal government in the senate well stop insulting the
00:40:59.380 movement, stop inflaming the movement and really start to look at what's causing it. If you guys
00:41:06.440 really want to stop it, it's in your hands now. No more platitudes, no more ragging the puck.
00:41:15.000 Get the corridor going so we can get our resources to market. Really actually bring down those trade
00:41:22.900 barriers that we have between the provinces. It's up to them now. A growing number of
00:41:30.540 Albertans have been, you know, they've had enough. They're tired out and they're going to
00:41:38.980 pursue other alternatives. It's now in your court. Amos C9 saying Smith has controlled
00:41:46.240 federal opposition. Okay. No, sorry. She's not. Whatever you might think of Premier Smith,
00:41:51.760 Don't start the conspiracy crap. It's not going to get anywhere. She's not part of a controlled
00:41:56.120 federal opposition. She was not elected as an independent supporter. That wasn't her platform.
00:42:03.380 It would be morally incorrect for her to jump on that. As I said, she gave the mechanism. It's up
00:42:09.580 to voters. For her to turn around now and take that on, again, that's another way of saying,
00:42:15.320 remember, the highest, the highest we're seeing polled still is, you know, or the reality is,
00:42:20.840 We're looking 30, top 40%, maybe.
00:42:24.320 If she jumps on independence and splits her own vote, 0.69
00:42:26.940 again, you're going to look at Premier Nenshi.
00:42:29.040 It's not her job to do that.
00:42:32.240 She gave you the mechanism for a referendum.
00:42:36.040 If you want independence, follow that mechanism.
00:42:38.460 It's going to be the way to do it.
00:42:42.080 But let's see here.
00:42:46.240 Yeah, it's Troy saying, okay, my concern with the referendum,
00:42:48.840 you know, if we had a majority in favor, a referendum about equalization payments a few
00:42:53.420 years ago and nothing came about. Yeah, that's true. You know, it was just a big
00:42:56.760 province-wide poll. That's all it really was. It just reaffirmed what we already knew. Most
00:43:04.340 Albertans don't like equalization. Okay. And then nothing became of it. The difference with
00:43:11.940 a referendum that is held correctly under the Clarity Act with a clear question on independence
00:43:19.100 is that it would trigger the Clarity Act. And suddenly, I mean, if there was a win,
00:43:26.660 and we're a long ways from that, guys, we're a ways from it. We've got a good chunk of people
00:43:32.080 to win over if you really think it's going to happen. But if it did happen, then the rest of
00:43:37.040 the country is obligated to negotiate the independence of that province after that.
00:43:40.780 Now that could still take years and there's a whole lot of question marks, but that's a big difference between that sort of referendum and the one on equalization we saw a little while ago.
00:43:52.020 So either way, let's twist things back. I want to get back to my guest coming pretty soon here.
00:43:57.360 And as I said, all of Alberta is going into a municipal race soon.
00:44:00.620 This is an area that we are as guilty as Albertans as anybody else is.
00:44:04.800 We don't pay enough attention to our civic politics.
00:44:07.460 They're the closest ones to us.
00:44:09.580 They impact us very directly.
00:44:12.120 And this is the year, guys.
00:44:13.300 You get a chance every four years in my area.
00:44:15.500 I'll be voting for a local councillor and we'll get a reeve.
00:44:18.520 And in Calgary, there's going to be a mayoral race.
00:44:21.580 And it's going to be a hotly contested one.
00:44:24.620 There's no doubt about that.
00:44:26.400 Calgary is a big city and not everybody's endeared to the current mayor.
00:44:31.800 So Jeff Davison is coming on.
00:44:33.960 He's running again.
00:44:34.860 He's a former councillor with Calgary City Council.
00:44:37.660 He ran in the last mayoral election and he's been one of the early ones out of the gate
00:44:41.640 putting his hat into the ring for the race this time around.
00:44:45.180 So he's going to join us.
00:44:46.860 Hey there, Jeff, how are you doing?
00:44:48.760 Hey, good morning.
00:44:49.400 How are you?
00:44:50.260 Good.
00:44:50.740 I appreciate you coming on.
00:44:52.740 As I was kind of saying to people, it's going to be a hotly contested race and a bit of a long grind.
00:44:57.820 I know you're in for it now for a long summer of working and pancake flipping.
00:45:01.740 uh but i mean we've got to uh set the the stage i guess uh where i want to begin we've already
00:45:09.980 got a number of people you know people of some profile putting their names into to run in this
00:45:15.520 uh race you're one of your challenges is going to be distinguishing yourself from that pack so 1.00
00:45:21.460 so what makes you different you know i think it's three things leadership experience and vision i
00:45:27.320 think those are the three things that are missing from this city council and i think it's a serious
00:45:30.900 consideration as to why people don't have trust in council right now and it's time to reset that
00:45:35.620 i think we've got to get back to basics we've got to start thinking about how we get our budgets in
00:45:39.220 line and and what we're seeing from the city council just isn't getting us there so i look
00:45:44.580 at you know we're going to have major issues in this city around infrastructure we're seeing
00:45:48.340 significant issues around public safety affordability is a big concern none of these
00:45:53.220 things are being addressed and so you know for myself i look at it from the perspective of well
00:45:58.420 i've got the experience of being a city councillor i understand budgeting and how the city should be
00:46:02.260 working i have you know spent 25 years in energy and technology in the film industry and now
00:46:09.220 healthcare leadership is a big piece of what we need at city hall and then it really comes down
00:46:14.340 to vision where are we taking the city because once we get the the budget restored once we get
00:46:18.500 things reset where are we going to be in 10 years and i think i'm the only person that's been out
00:46:22.740 there articulating those three things are the big sort of items that people are looking for great so
00:46:27.780 So, I mean, with that leadership aspect, there's a couple of things.
00:46:30.560 I mean, just to remind everybody, a mayor only has one vote among a council, but it's still a very significant role within them in two senses.
00:46:37.960 One, I guess we'll start with that.
00:46:39.680 We've had a lot of difficulty and dysfunction among council members with each other.
00:46:43.800 It's often kind of the mayor's role as the chair to try and maintain order in that.
00:46:48.100 You were enjoying some of that during your term as a councillor with Mayor Nenshi and Mayor Gondek's had her challenges with that.
00:46:55.740 What sort of strategy would you be bringing in, I guess, to hopefully try and keep the council moving in a productive way?
00:47:02.160 I think it's a strategy I've had all my life in a 25-year career, right?
00:47:05.740 You know, in healthcare, I don't have a party to work with me at the table.
00:47:08.820 And in film, you don't always have willing partners that want to go in a direction.
00:47:12.660 It's about finding the common ground, bringing people into the project and saying, folks, we've got to line up here.
00:47:17.200 This is what people are asking us to do and getting things done, right?
00:47:20.320 I mean, that is what leadership's all about.
00:47:22.160 It's about how do you position the merit of any project that we're trying to bring together?
00:47:26.700 How do you bring people together on it?
00:47:28.240 And then how do you execute it together so that everybody gets a piece of the win?
00:47:31.900 And I think, you know, largely in part why we're seeing such a fracture on city council right now is because there is no leadership there.
00:47:38.280 Everybody's in for themselves.
00:47:39.380 And that doesn't position a good outcome for Calgarians first.
00:47:44.100 So another aspect that's been problematic for quite some years is the relationship between city councils and the provincial government.
00:47:51.100 And I mean, to be honest, I'm pretty supportive of Premier Smith quite often, but they really do seem to have a thing with getting intrusive into municipal turf quite a bit.
00:48:01.040 And I don't like jurisdictional overreach from the federal government into the provincial, and I don't like provincial into the municipal, but it takes quite some diplomacy, I guess.
00:48:08.980 I mean, you've got to maintain a close relationship with the provincial government.
00:48:12.360 What would you like to see changed in the relationship between the cities and the province?
00:48:16.680 Well, again, I think this is a failure of leadership on the city council.
00:48:19.540 i agree you know we can't always pick and choose who we want our provincial partner to be at the
00:48:24.900 end of the day though we have to make a relationship work and put calgarians first and that's what we're
00:48:28.740 going to fight for it's no different than our premier is fighting for alberta first right now
00:48:32.500 i absolutely believe that but that's what we're going to do for calgarians as well and ensure that
00:48:36.740 under these provincial budgets that calgarians get their fair fair share but it all comes down
00:48:42.020 to relationship right i mean i think that's where you have to be able to to bring people into the
00:48:46.100 projects together i mean you look at sort of the failure of green line you know how long that's
00:48:50.740 taken to get you know what we don't even have track light and we've been talking about this
00:48:53.860 thing for 10 years at some point your partners whether that's in the private sector or in the
00:48:58.900 public sphere here at some point your partners are going to get frustrated if you're not bringing
00:49:02.900 them along and keeping them informed on the project and so our job is to work with our
00:49:07.220 provincial counterparts to say look and let's take public safety as a big one right when you think
00:49:12.900 about the crime that's happening downtown a lot of that is due to the opioid crisis right my job
00:49:19.380 as as the mayor is not to deal or wade into health care right that's a provincial problem
00:49:24.820 but we're going to need those provincial partners at the table with us if we're going to solve the
00:49:28.580 problem of crime downtown because quite frankly the crime is being influenced by you know the
00:49:33.300 addiction and to deal with addiction that often comes with mental health issues we need the
00:49:38.260 province to work with us on the mental health and addiction side and support us on the policing side
00:49:42.580 so that we can actually clean up the streets and make Calgary a safer place for everybody.
00:49:46.980 Absolutely. And there's been a push for the green line in transit. And to be honest,
00:49:50.320 when we see a weekly story of somebody being assaulted or, you know, intimidated on Calgary
00:49:55.600 transit, ridership, it just doesn't bring people into it. So, I mean, why would you want to build
00:50:01.240 a whole new line when we're having trouble getting people onto the existing line? I mean,
00:50:04.400 there's lots of people who use it, but they use it almost grudgingly. What about improvements for
00:50:09.180 the existing transit system? I think that's actually, you've hit the nail on the head there.
00:50:13.800 That's key to what we have here, right? If you want ridership to go up, you have to make it safe.
00:50:18.340 I mean, personally, right now, I've got a 16-year-old daughter who I refuse to let take
00:50:21.800 the C train because I don't feel like it's a safe place for her to be. We're seeing crime at the
00:50:25.800 stations and it's all over the map now. You're seeing people assaulted on the trains. You're
00:50:29.720 seeing openly people with addictions doing drugs on the trains. These things have to be addressed.
00:50:34.540 I think one of the biggest failures on transit of the city council is, again, the failure to connect the dots, right?
00:50:40.960 People will not take transit if they don't feel safe.
00:50:44.040 Make it safe and you increase your ridership numbers.
00:50:46.900 When you increase your ridership numbers, okay, well, now we can look at further investments in transit.
00:50:51.860 But it comes back to that core ability that if you fail to make it safe for people, who's taking this thing?
00:50:57.820 You know, and now, unfortunately, we're seeing many incidences where even transit operators are saying, I don't feel safe in my job.
00:51:05.000 We've had transit drivers assaulted on the job, some of them ending up in critical condition in hospital.
00:51:09.780 At the point where we can't protect our own staff, we can't protect the public, the city council has failed.
00:51:14.920 And that's the number one priority to address is public safety.
00:51:17.940 So, absolutely.
00:51:19.480 I mean, there's a few key priorities for city councils.
00:51:22.600 I mean, I'm afraid it seems to happen kind of everywhere.
00:51:24.900 or it's just the nature of politicians,
00:51:26.660 but there's been a lot of overreach into areas
00:51:28.360 that perhaps the city just doesn't really need to get into.
00:51:31.200 You kind of pointed out with healthcare, for example,
00:51:33.040 you want to work cooperatively, but it's not your turf.
00:51:36.160 What are a couple of areas that the city could get out of
00:51:39.500 so they could focus more on the things, the transit,
00:51:41.860 the park maintenance, the things that we understand
00:51:44.580 to be municipal priorities when we seem to often get sidetracked
00:51:47.860 into some side trips, I guess you could say.
00:51:51.180 Well, I would say this.
00:51:52.680 my campaign is very much focused on getting back to basics and focusing on core services first.
00:51:58.360 Again, I've talked about this a lot. I've been very critical of the city council and their
00:52:02.500 failures, but not having a strategic plan over the last four years has been a failure. There's
00:52:07.360 nothing to point back to. There's nothing to connect the dots with. Number one thing we need
00:52:11.240 to do is get our council together and get a four-year strategic plan together, which will talk
00:52:15.340 about all of those things. We talk about the core services that we're going to invest in,
00:52:19.260 But just as importantly, we're going to talk about the things that we're going to get out of, the things that are no longer within our purview to be managing.
00:52:26.200 And that's where, again, relationship with other orders of government matters, because when it comes to significant investment in affordable housing, let's say, these are provincial and federal matters, right?
00:52:35.440 But the city has been significantly contributing into these matters because we've had a lack of partnership and a lack of funding opportunity.
00:52:42.680 We've got to reestablish which lane is ours and which lane is the provincial and which lane is the federal government's responsibilities.
00:52:48.500 and work together to solve some of these big problems that Calgarians face.
00:52:53.080 So speaking as a citizen of Fort Hills County, just outside of the city of Calgary,
00:52:58.900 a beef we've had with, you know, Rocky View has been dealing with that as well.
00:53:02.440 It was a regional municipal plans, things like that, where neighboring communities,
00:53:06.580 we get a little nervous sometimes when it sounds like we've got city councils or mayors
00:53:10.680 who might want to start controlling things in the regional areas.
00:53:13.900 What sort of plan have you got, though, with, you know, Wheatland, Rocky View,
00:53:16.820 all of those bordering communities uh with the city of calgary yeah and all those bordering
00:53:21.220 communities have different priorities but our job is is much like we've talked about in dealing with
00:53:25.540 the province it's to build partnership with those neighboring communities and be good partners to
00:53:28.900 them right uh largely in part water supply is a huge issue for a lot of these communities and so
00:53:34.020 we'll work collaboratively with the surrounding communities to make sure that they have the
00:53:37.460 essential services they need and that calgary can provide as always reasonable opportunities
00:53:43.060 for those partnerships. Great. I'll throw just kind of another thing. So something that's unique
00:53:48.180 this time around in this election, there's now been a municipal party system brought in. There's
00:53:52.920 going to be a number of people running under a number of different banners. I believe you stayed
00:53:56.180 independent on this. Possibly you might have a couple of party aligned or a few with different
00:54:03.940 parties in the city council. With that new dynamic, how do you think it's going to impact
00:54:09.040 the council going forward? I think if we were a few years down the road, the party system would
00:54:13.940 be a little bit differently. I think most Calgarians would understand what it means.
00:54:17.880 I think the struggle right now is that you've seen a lot of these parties form that with the
00:54:23.220 members themselves have conflicting ideologies. And so you're not really sure what the party
00:54:27.360 stands for when you have people that vote in different directions within the party.
00:54:31.100 I think from a funding standpoint, the parties offer more ability to raise more money. But just
00:54:36.460 because you provide different opportunities. And I can say this, I've been raising money for
00:54:39.980 the Prostate Cancer Centre for the last three and a half years. That's primarily my role as CEO
00:54:45.100 there. I can tell you just because you create new ways to raise money does not mean that the
00:54:49.300 funding capacity and market is different. And so I really don't see much change in terms of
00:54:54.840 fundraising that the party system is going to offer. I do think that going forward, we'll see
00:55:00.360 if Calgarians and frankly, Edmontonians want to say yes to this, then you could see some real
00:55:05.820 structure forum. But I think right now it's very confusing. This is a highly contested race
00:55:10.720 and people are saying, look, you know, I want to pick the individual that I want. I don't want to
00:55:15.540 have to be bound by everybody else's BS that they're associated to on some sort of municipal
00:55:20.000 party. Great. Well, I appreciate the clarities and answers. I know you're on the run there. I see
00:55:26.080 you're in the vehicle. I'm in what I call the mobile campaign office. So, yeah. Yeah. Well,
00:55:31.780 it's the great thing with digital communications and means that we can, you know, we don't have
00:55:35.140 drag you into a studio for these sorts of things anymore so uh you know before i let you go is
00:55:40.180 there anything else you'd like to let our viewers know and where can people uh get in touch with
00:55:44.340 your campaign if they have more questions or want to get in support of it you know well thank you
00:55:48.660 for that i think you know jeff davison yyc is is our website please go and sign up i think this is
00:55:53.700 a very important election for calgarians if we believe in getting back to core services and
00:55:58.260 focusing on public safety and infrastructure and affordability this is your campaign right and
00:56:03.460 having some experience of being on the inside and now the outside and how we should look at it
00:56:07.380 i think you know the number one thing i've learned in my time outside of city hall is working with a
00:56:11.460 charity you don't have funding to do everything and so you have to really stick to that strategic
00:56:16.260 plan and that's how we're going to treat tax dollars is we're going to do better we're going
00:56:20.180 to freeze the uh the growing tax rates that we've seen and we're just going to say no more no more
00:56:25.300 increases you will see a zero percent uh budget increase over the next four years while we
00:56:30.660 restructure and set Calgary up for success over the long term. Great. Well, thank you very much
00:56:36.880 for talking to us today. I hope we get the chance to talk again sometime later on in the campaign
00:56:41.440 as things develop. I'm certain there'll be new issues to chew into at that point too.
00:56:45.280 I would love to. And thanks for having me. Great. Thank you. So again, guys, yes,
00:56:49.580 that's Jeff Davison. You can find more information at Jeff Davison YYC. And it is going to be,
00:56:55.860 I like to, you know, I'm a political guy. Every election's important. This one's going to be
00:57:00.120 a big one as well. I think things are very divided. Things are in flux a lot. And I really
00:57:06.660 want people to pay attention through this one. So we'll be covering it, you know, as much as we can
00:57:11.300 in this. It's hard when we get so many races going on in so many areas, but that's a good start to
00:57:16.600 kick things off. Okay. Let me get back to, you know, one of the comments and I appreciate it.
00:57:21.400 MOC9M saying, you know, my job is to make sure it doesn't get to a yes. A quote from Premier Smith.
00:57:25.320 yes, but don't interpret that statement from Smith as saying my job is to get out there and
00:57:31.540 be on the no campaign. What she's saying is, which those of us committed to independence
00:57:37.540 understand is probably an act of futility, but she believes or she feels her mandate is to make
00:57:43.540 sure that the relationship with Ottawa can be changed to the point where people just won't
00:57:47.500 choose to go. That is a bit different than being against independence. Look, if she really was
00:57:54.480 opposed to it. If she really was the control demolition from the feds, she just wouldn't
00:57:58.560 give us referendum legislation. It's in her hands. She could stop it. We wouldn't be able to have it. 0.55
00:58:07.600 But either way, we've got the democratic ability coming and I'm looking forward to it. We've never
00:58:13.120 had anything like that before. That's what's exciting. There's never been a referendum like
00:58:17.220 this anywhere in Canada, outside of Quebec, ever. This is history in the making, but we want to make
00:58:23.620 sure it's a good history in the making. We want to make things better. Let's not forget, just
00:58:27.920 because we give ourselves the ability to make change doesn't mean we'll make a smart one. I
00:58:30.800 like to think we will. I like to think Alberta is one of the smartest out there. I mean, that's 1.00
00:58:33.840 another thing from MOC9, the commenter saying that Calgary skyline should be at a minimum on
00:58:37.980 part with Dubai or better. The climate cult has prevented it. I mean, there's truth to it. We
00:58:42.840 should be doing infinitely better than we are right now. We shouldn't be nearly so far in the hole.
00:58:48.480 That was some of the discussions I had on X. People like pointing out, look at Alberta and 0.98
00:58:53.860 the mismanagement. Norway's got this giant fund that they've been saving. It's almost a trillion
00:58:59.360 dollars or more. And Alberta's got this little heritage trust fund. Yes, but Norway didn't have
00:59:06.860 a Quebec to support. Norway didn't have the lazy cousin laying on the couch, sucking the money out 1.00
00:59:12.560 of bank account all the time. Norway could keep their own funds and set it aside in a fund like
00:59:18.280 that. Alaska did that too. Now it's not to say it'd be impossible for Alberta to have pissed 1.00
00:59:22.660 away all that money. Who knows? Oil people are good at doing that. But if we weren't being
00:59:27.800 drained the entire time, we might be able to set up a different fund off to the side, but
00:59:35.840 we can barely keep up because we're too busy shoring up the parasite provinces to the east.
00:59:41.800 And boy, they hate it when I call them that, but that's the definition it falls under. Guys,
00:59:44.620 you're sitting there sucking the energy out of a host mercilessly and you know the end run if
00:59:50.980 the host doesn't remove the parasite the parasite kills the host and we i can only think of one way
00:59:55.760 out uh dear jeff this is from a commenter uh jason weeks uh please remind on the campaign that uh
01:00:05.240 uh gondek and six councilmen stole 9 000 out of taxpayers for home security system being in public
01:00:10.840 office is a privilege not to steal from the public. Okay, steal, I don't know if it's a strong enough
01:00:15.500 word, but I would call it perhaps an abuse of the funds, you know, that are there. There's only so
01:00:22.640 many things that should be covered or not covered. I'm kind of mixed when it comes to a little bit of
01:00:26.060 that, right? I mean, I understand why a prime minister, whether I like the prime minister,
01:00:32.780 doesn't fly coach. I understand why the mayor won't ride the train, though the mayor should
01:00:39.560 be responsible for getting the train safe for everybody. People in those positions deal with a
01:00:45.340 different level of personal threats that the average person shouldn't. It's unfortunate. We
01:00:52.600 should be getting rid of people electorally, not through intimidation or threats. Having people
01:00:56.740 show up at your doorstep and protesting outside of it, which has been happening, which I personally
01:01:01.900 still feel crosses the line. I don't think it's appropriate. So if you don't want them dipping in
01:01:07.020 then taking money to shore up their home security systems. We should stop tracking them to their
01:01:13.080 homes. We've got a city hall where you can get on the case of politicians or use other
01:01:18.160 communications. So I'm kind of mixed on that one. There's a lot of areas where they abuse our money.
01:01:22.300 Absolutely. Loads of it. And they line their pockets way too much. Joe Magliocca, you know,
01:01:29.160 with his expensing, that was brilliant. And he's been charged for it even and convicted.
01:01:33.360 uh but i mean when it comes to security there's different things i mean i i don't disclose all of
01:01:39.200 the emails and messages and some of the stuff i get after some of the the shows or columns i've
01:01:44.100 written and if i've been playing people or said something on x and i get some pretty uh distressing
01:01:49.660 communications come my way occasionally and that's why my home has security now i i i don't uh
01:01:56.180 i'm not getting tax funded for my home security by any means or anything like that i'm more of
01:02:01.640 Albertan. We've got security and of course I've got my legal property to be able to defend my
01:02:09.080 household and a number of dogs and all sorts of things. But I don't begrudge some extra security
01:02:16.760 things for people in public profile who've chosen those offices, whether it's a premier,
01:02:20.440 prime minister or a mayor. You don't want them abusing it, but there's a bit of a degree of why
01:02:25.080 it should be covered they shouldn't have to endure fear for their safety but well that's part of
01:02:32.520 things uh let's see what else we got uh this is an interesting one from cyril arnold saying a number
01:02:39.480 saying that over 40 percent of canadian millionaires are thinking of leaving canada pair that with 40
01:02:43.480 of 18 to 35 year olds thinking the same we're gonna lose our producers great reason for independence
01:02:49.400 you know it's hard to tell but brain drain was a big discussion in the 90s too which
01:02:54.120 when you are most productive, you're most ambitious, you're most trained, are leaving
01:03:00.120 for other jurisdictions. I mean, of course, it's the worst that can happen.
01:03:05.320 On my own YouTube channel, you know, I've done little videos, I did one, it must be 10 years ago
01:03:09.720 now, in Steubenville, Ohio. And I really, it was an eye opener working through the Rust Belt when I
01:03:16.920 did a lot of work in the states and the eastern states for a while surveying, and I was in the
01:03:19.960 south too and steubenville used to it peaked at like a hundred and some thousand people
01:03:26.600 in population there when it had steel foundries and manufacturers and you you drive up and it
01:03:32.040 showed a bit of in the video it's almost like something out of a movie you know a zombie movie
01:03:35.480 like it's overrun the fines and growth these these shut down refineries and then you get to the
01:03:40.360 downtown and there's these beautiful art deco office buildings that are uh you know 20 30 floors
01:03:47.240 even, and they're empty. The downtown is empty. Things are boarded up. And there's a donut around
01:03:53.380 the downtown of just dilapidated and broken down homes. I think the population is down to 30 or
01:03:58.040 40,000 now. This town has fallen apart. But what was really distressing was I needed laborers when
01:04:04.620 I was out there. I needed to hire some guys for just some basic labor. Pretty good money for it. 0.99
01:04:09.120 We call it stick pickers. They were going to walk behind the guys cutting the brush for our sight 1.00
01:04:12.680 lines for surveying. And they just had to throw the brush off to the side, drink lots of water,
01:04:19.720 moderately hard work. We're going to pay them 150 a day plus, you know, this was some years ago,
01:04:25.480 plus 20 a day pocket money because they call it hotshot just for your expenses out there. And
01:04:29.720 they weren't even staying in hotels. They'd come from home. Not huge money, but you had to remember
01:04:33.900 in that town, you could buy a house for 20,000 back then. So if you're making 150 bucks a day,
01:04:37.280 you know, you could be doing pretty good. I couldn't find anybody there. I couldn't. I went
01:04:41.760 downtown. I went to their employment office. I got a guy to put an ad up, you know, and, and have
01:04:46.760 all these people apply. And I set aside two days where I sat in my hotel room to see the applicants.
01:04:52.280 I've talked about this in the show before. And the reason I wanted to see them, all I wanted to see
01:04:55.680 is that they're reasonably decent shape. I wanted to see their teeth in their arms. And some people
01:04:58.920 got upset when I said that online, oh, you can't just be so discriminatory. Look, I don't want
01:05:04.540 junkies. And that's a hard thing to avoid in that part of the world. It's, I imagine it's only
01:05:09.880 gotten worse since. It was bad 10 years ago, 12 years ago. I want to make sure there's not tracks
01:05:14.020 from the needles and I want to make sure they don't have meth mouth because I just don't have
01:05:16.680 time for that on my crew. All these appointments were set to meet me at the hotel room. All these
01:05:22.200 guys had emailed back and said, yeah, I'll have an interview. I'll have an interview. And then
01:05:25.380 I sat for two days and not a single one showed up. I talked to the counselor at the employment
01:05:30.360 center. He said, yeah, I thought that might happen. The bottom line is they're all welfare
01:05:33.260 recipients. They have to show that they're trying to find jobs, but they don't really actually want
01:05:37.060 to get one. This is a broken community. And the reason it's broken, like I'm getting long and
01:05:43.140 circular, but back to what the commenter was talking about, is because when you've lost all
01:05:47.260 your ambitious, you've lost all your hard workers, you've lost the professionals, well, what do you
01:05:53.840 think it's left behind? So Steubenville crashed in the 80s. And it's not to say every person in
01:06:00.020 Steubenville is broken, but most of them are. You know, the ones who wanted more went to Pittsburgh
01:06:05.360 or Columbus or Cleveland, one of the major centers within a short drive of there,
01:06:11.080 the ones left behind were the disturbed, the addicted, the lazy. And it's a rut that you
01:06:20.820 can't really dig yourself out of. Even when an employment opportunity shows up in town,
01:06:24.820 as I brought to that town, the people weren't even willing to work any longer. The social
01:06:29.560 change required to dig them out of that hole now, I don't know what it's going to take. And that
01:06:34.380 town is just one among dozens and dozens and dozens in the Rust Belt. And when you look at
01:06:39.060 there's actually some old big mansions there. It was a really good place to be. Dean Martin was
01:06:43.540 born there, but it fell apart. So it reminds you, you can be very wealthy and it can change
01:06:49.880 quickly. So out here where we've got an energy economy, but if we keep losing our professionals,
01:06:56.480 losing our ambitious and people say the oil companies will never leave. They do. They have,
01:06:59.860 They've done it before. We saw it when Ed Stelmac got greedy and tried to gouge more money out of
01:07:05.080 the energy sector. The drilling rigs went south and the engineers and the professionals. A lot of
01:07:09.540 my former co-workers in the oil field are all in Texas and Houston now. I envy them so in winter.
01:07:16.120 The brain drain is real. And that trend becomes self-fulfilling. It becomes worse. It's a snowball
01:07:23.560 going downhill. And then you get worse and worse as a jurisdiction. So that's something we've got
01:07:30.520 to be fearful of. With Canada's unfriendly investment climate, with its high taxes, high
01:07:36.720 regulations, dysfunction in general, corruption on the federal part, if we're starting to lose
01:07:43.640 our best and brightest, guys, we could be going into a downward cycle that we might not get out
01:07:48.660 for generations is if ever then you know i'm here to be a total bummer but i'm saying we
01:07:53.460 we've got a really bleak outlook if we don't change things radically and that's part of why
01:08:00.480 i support the independence movement i'm going to do a video on my own channel with i'm not trying
01:08:03.080 to plug that so much but i'm putting you know step-by-step things because one of the things
01:08:06.620 is the truth i think a province breaking out of canada would be the best thing for all of canada
01:08:10.700 not just that province this country needs a shaking a ripping to rebuild and change the system
01:08:17.300 because it's on a bad trajectory right now.
01:08:20.520 So we'll see what happens, but we keep at it.
01:08:23.540 We keep active and we take part.
01:08:25.740 So thank you guys for commenting today, for viewing.
01:08:28.260 I appreciate it.
01:08:30.040 This is the last Friday, as I said,
01:08:32.420 but I'll still be around on Wednesdays
01:08:33.720 and we've got the pipeline and we've got specials.
01:08:35.540 We're going to be set up on the floor
01:08:36.540 of the Global Energy Show in Calgary in a little bit.
01:08:40.560 And I'm bouncing all over a lot of speaking engagements.
01:08:42.840 I'm going to be in Red Deer for a big one
01:08:45.160 on Independence on the 14th, I believe it is. And I'm going to be in Regina on Monday. It's
01:08:51.640 going to be a busy, busy year, getting a lot done. So thank all you guys for tuning in. And I thank
01:08:56.260 you for your questions and comments. I'll see you on the next show. And again, take out a
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