Western Standard - March 26, 2026


The Liberals & Supreme Court’s war on the Constitution


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00:00:00.000 G'day! Today is March 25th, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard,
00:00:29.140 and you're watching the pipeline i've got the usual crew here today former western standard
00:00:33.740 opinion editor nigel annaford good evening good afternoon good evening cd alberta comas cory
00:00:39.680 morgan and uh criminal of the six sickening nation yes most wanted most wanted criminal
00:00:46.880 convicted yeah accused and a sudden till proven good but you are most wanted well the most wanted
00:00:52.740 guys are normally not yet caught yeah i don't know if they haven't been convicted yet so yeah
00:00:57.860 And our vice president and news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:01:02.880 Hello, everybody.
00:01:04.620 All right.
00:01:05.320 Well, you have just six days left to give Mark Carney your guns, more or less.
00:01:10.820 You have six days left, actually.
00:01:12.380 That's the short version for the headline.
00:01:13.660 But really, you have six days left to tell Ottawa that you have guns, that they should come and steal from you.
00:01:20.500 Because if you don't tell them, I guess they're not going to really know that you have guns that they want to steal from you.
00:01:27.140 okay anyway we're talking about where we're at with the uh latest stage of the ottawa gun grab
00:01:34.580 the uh carney and smith mou has missed its first deadline the much vaunted mou between
00:01:41.060 the alberta and federal governments uh striking a deal on global warming stuff in exchange for
00:01:47.540 pipeline stuff uh yeah the alberta government still says it's good nothing to worry about
00:01:54.420 but they've missed the first deadline is it on the rocks we'll talk about it and uh we're to start
00:02:00.900 though with uh the war on the constitution the liberal party will be debating uh and the supreme
00:02:09.300 court of canada will be deciding on the future of the notwithstanding clause nigel uh the
00:02:14.980 notwithstanding clause uh is oddly portrayed uh as anti-constitutional by many on the left
00:02:22.260 despite it being written into the Constitution
00:02:26.020 and having been a key part of the Constitution
00:02:29.240 in exchange for Pierre Trudeau in 1982
00:02:31.280 getting the sign-off for the other premiers.
00:02:33.040 But it does appear to be the crosshairs
00:02:35.660 for somehow being nullified.
00:02:37.920 Well, it's a funny old story, and you're right.
00:02:40.060 This has old roots.
00:02:41.200 It was actually Alberta Premier Lockheed
00:02:43.420 who actually organized the other premiers in 1982,
00:02:47.760 forced Pierre Trudeau to accept the clause
00:02:50.160 as the price of agreeing to the rest of the Charter of Rights,
00:02:53.880 which has many things that they didn't like,
00:02:56.260 and which tends to put political power in the hands of the judges
00:02:59.340 rather than the politicians.
00:03:01.780 So it goes like this.
00:03:03.280 Legislatures write laws, courts interpret laws,
00:03:07.540 and the notwithstanding clause lets legislators keep a law in force
00:03:11.840 despite Charter objections for up to five years.
00:03:14.960 So while parliamentary supremacy was largely lost
00:03:19.680 at that time in 1982 with the British North America Act
00:03:23.480 and the Charter. This preserves it a bit
00:03:26.520 within limits, which is actually the most democratic thing
00:03:29.400 that could possibly have happened in the circumstances,
00:03:32.260 which is important, because if you don't like what
00:03:35.320 Parliament is doing, you can vote them out.
00:03:38.500 But if you don't like what the courts are doing, too bad.
00:03:42.300 Judges are appointed until they're 75.
00:03:45.560 Now what's happened here, what's brought this to the surface
00:03:48.060 as we're talking about it today, is that the province of Quebec has been working for the last five years
00:03:56.120 to legislate that provincial employees may not wear religious symbols while they are at work.
00:04:06.100 So their legislation, Bill 21, you may read about it, is under attack from interested parties
00:04:11.500 and has ended up at the Supreme Court of Canada after appeal upon appeal.
00:04:15.640 uh now the federal government is not appealing but it is intervening it is going to the supreme
00:04:22.100 court with what they call a factum and says this is what we think about this issue and they're
00:04:26.400 asking the supreme court uh to take their position which is essentially that the quebec
00:04:31.360 principal provincial government legislation should be struck down well just to interrupt
00:04:37.420 slightly it's not just the the legislation the legislation has the notwithstanding clause
00:04:41.980 invoked on it, because
00:04:43.500 it probably would violate
00:04:45.540 the religious freedoms part of the
00:04:48.060 Constitution. In my non-legal opinion?
00:04:49.980 Yeah. I mean, that's not
00:04:52.000 a big stretch, I think. But they put
00:04:54.000 they invoked a notwithstanding clause on it
00:04:55.840 and the feds are arguing that
00:04:57.600 they can't use the notwithstanding clause on it.
00:05:00.480 What they're saying is they can't
00:05:02.060 preemptively
00:05:03.160 put the notwithstanding clause on it.
00:05:06.240 Is that the practice of doing this?
00:05:07.700 And by the way, we do that in Alberta as well.
00:05:10.420 Saves a lot of trouble.
00:05:11.980 the idea from the federal point of view,
00:05:16.080 what they're claiming in their factum
00:05:18.160 is that this actually undermines rights
00:05:20.420 in a more significant way
00:05:22.620 than merely having the thing go before the courts later.
00:05:26.620 Anyway, their intervention stems from concerns
00:05:29.740 that frequent preemptive use of the clause
00:05:32.240 erodes charter rights without sufficient democratic checks,
00:05:37.600 and the federal position seeks judicial clarification
00:05:40.400 to prevent indefinite overrides, which is what you are talking about here in this instance.
00:05:46.400 Well, provinces, of course, they're defending the whole notwithstanding clause
00:05:50.340 as a core feature of Canadian federalism and parliamentary sovereignty.
00:05:54.240 The case is widely seen as one of the most significant constitutional matters
00:05:59.720 since the charter's enactment, which it is.
00:06:04.200 So, Corey, there's the Quebec case.
00:06:07.260 Bill 21 prompted it, but as Nigel mentioned, Saskatchewan and Alberta have also recently
00:06:14.040 invoked, Ontario did it, the Ford government did it in Ontario to demand third-party advertisers
00:06:21.140 in elections.
00:06:22.040 That's a case where I don't particularly like it, but the Ford government has the constitutional
00:06:26.480 right to do it.
00:06:27.180 Should it do it?
00:06:27.800 That's a matter of debate.
00:06:29.040 But can it do it?
00:06:30.280 Yes, it can.
00:06:31.360 That's the way it works.
00:06:32.200 Similarly in Alberta and Saskatchewan, it's been used around keeping boys out of girls sports, transing underage kids, that kind of thing, preemptive use of the notwithstanding clause, because we know the way this works, it'll get struck down by liberal judges, and then it'll spend a decade going through the courts.
00:06:52.060 in the meantime the judiciary is running things and not parliament so even if you do win or even
00:06:58.040 if you lose at the end of then and then use the notwithstanding clause you've probably had you've
00:07:02.540 had like three elections in the meantime the government's probably turned over so the not
00:07:06.960 withstanding clause is useless so they've begun to preemptively use the notwithstanding clause here
00:07:11.320 and so you know the liberal party members at their upcoming convention i think in vancouver
00:07:16.580 are going to debate a resolution to essentially use the federal power of nullification which
00:07:20.820 hasn't been used since the 19, roughly 1930, um, you know, consider the nuclear option.
00:07:26.720 You're essentially blowing up the Federation if you do that.
00:07:29.360 I'm not opposed to that.
00:07:30.880 Pardon?
00:07:31.240 You're not opposed to blowing up the Federation.
00:07:32.960 Yeah, so maybe we welcome them to, to use power of nullification.
00:07:36.340 But that said, that's just the Liberal Party members, uh, the Liberal Party's leadership
00:07:40.040 cares even less about what Liberal Party members do than, say, most Conservative parties, which
00:07:44.120 also don't care, but they care even less.
00:07:45.800 So, I'm less concerned there, but that the federal government itself is moving this
00:07:49.700 ward of the supreme court and the supreme court now has within its power to essentially rewrite
00:07:55.660 the charter this is not a matter of interpretation this is it's not even a matter of like reading
00:08:00.920 things in which they like to do the living tree uh you know audrey mclaughlin uh doctrine of
00:08:07.220 reading things in well they didn't write sexual orientation in but they they would have put it in
00:08:11.540 if it was written today that's not the way a constitution's supposed to work but that that's
00:08:15.340 reading things in but this would be reading something out that if they wrote made the
00:08:21.280 charter today they wouldn't put the notwithstanding clause in yeah i mean it's incredibly dangerous
00:08:25.740 turf they're wandering into and again you know some of the debate i mean you kind of covered
00:08:29.440 already i mean the charter isn't just something that that applies to the constitution it's part
00:08:33.660 of the constitution it's entrenched it's there and we have a formula for changing the constitution
00:08:39.360 we've already learned with beach lake and charlatan it's virtually impossible to change it through
00:08:43.440 that formula but if you were to change it that's the mechanism to do it if we're going to
00:08:50.240 invalidate parts of the constitution through appointed judges it really starts to get to
00:08:56.560 the point of wondering what the purpose of the constitution is in the first place it really is
00:09:00.320 i mean and that will make i think more people start wondering that i mean i've already been
00:09:05.200 wondering about the purpose of the federation for quite some time but they do they understand
00:09:09.680 necessarily the fuse they're letting in quebec when the party quebec is already moving into a
00:09:14.080 uh winning position in a fall election out there we have a referendum approaching in alberta it's
00:09:19.680 like they're trying to feed the independence movements which again you know from an acceleration
00:09:24.960 this point of view uh i i'm not so sad about that but still it's it's it's just a terrible
00:09:31.840 type of governance i mean if they really think this shouldn't be there if they think it doesn't
00:09:35.200 belong start the formula get seven out of ten provinces and 50 of the population and let's do
00:09:41.200 it don't put it in the hands of appointed judges who appointed them by the way well yes exactly
00:09:46.800 that's where the problem no well actually i think we talked about this the other week um even the
00:09:51.520 conservative judges are pretty liberal yeah you got wagner on uh on the uh on i think he's the
00:09:57.680 chief justice he is and he was a harper appointee and he is not a conservative judge this is not
00:10:03.920 Not like the states where the Republican judges are going to be mostly reliably conservative.
00:10:08.980 The Democratic judges are going to be mostly reliably liberal.
00:10:12.420 And sometimes, if there's a really good argument, they can move over.
00:10:15.880 But they generally vote along the lines of their appointees, mostly.
00:10:19.780 Unless it's a clear case, like the tariff one.
00:10:21.900 They're Trump lost, even with Republican appointees.
00:10:24.840 But in the case of Canada, the liberals appoint liberals.
00:10:27.140 And the conservatives seem to also appoint liberals.
00:10:31.900 I don't know, Dave.
00:10:33.920 This is the court taking into its, like, who rules the court?
00:10:40.160 Like, who is the judge who gets to oversee what's the appropriate bounds of the judiciary?
00:10:47.020 Traditionally, that was the legislature.
00:10:49.300 But, you know, from the 1982 Constitution Act, where we got the charter and things like that, the judiciary seems to be able to run rogue.
00:10:56.780 It's been doing so ever since the charter was brought in.
00:10:59.240 It made decisions on key issues that should be legislative, however you feel about them, same-sex marriage, abortion, all sorts of things like that, that are clearly the purview of the legislature.
00:11:15.260 But now it's in the point of not even just rewriting legislation, which it's done.
00:11:19.460 It's considering, at least, rewriting the Constitution itself.
00:11:24.180 Yeah, it's just crazy.
00:11:25.520 They're a wacky bunch, maybe wearing those robes, but I guess they've got rid of those.
00:11:32.760 Was it the chief justice who was involved in a scrap at a hotel down in the States?
00:11:37.840 No.
00:11:38.880 It was one of the justices.
00:11:39.780 One of the justices.
00:11:41.260 Another one went on walkabout in Ottawa and went missing.
00:11:48.360 The RCMP had to put out a missing persons alert.
00:11:51.060 And there's already calls for Wagner to be removed from the Government Appeal of the Emergencies Act because he is on the record as degrading the Freedom Convoy truckers.
00:12:04.840 So, yeah, they're a wacky group of individuals.
00:12:09.820 And, you know, for the younger listeners, they don't understand how important this notwithstanding clause was.
00:12:17.440 That is what got all the provinces together, and that's what got the constitutional deal done.
00:12:23.240 And they're threatening to come along now and rewrite history, and God knows what's going to happen.
00:12:30.180 I want your take, Nigel, on why this is being considered now.
00:12:35.620 Traditionally, it's actually only ever been Quebec that invoked the notwithstanding clause, you know, protecting French Quebec-type stuff.
00:12:42.420 and no one in Ottawa has ever said
00:12:44.800 anything from either of the two big parties generally
00:12:46.820 they've always just let Quebec do it at once
00:12:48.700 this time
00:12:50.620 I don't know
00:12:51.620 I guess there's two things
00:12:53.740 parallel to this there's been the proactive use of the
00:12:56.760 notwithstanding clause in Ontario
00:12:57.920 Saskatchewan and especially Alberta
00:13:00.060 we also used it to break a teacher's strike
00:13:02.460 it's been used a couple times
00:13:04.600 very recently, a very quick succession
00:13:06.440 in Alberta
00:13:06.820 I don't know if it's an anti-Western thing
00:13:11.660 because it is technically appealing, a Quebec thing.
00:13:14.840 But are they appealing on Quebec because the West has done this?
00:13:19.100 Are they appealing on Quebec because it's now involving Islam?
00:13:22.420 Or is this just a broader principle that the Liberals have stumbled upon
00:13:25.620 that the Constitution that they primarily authored in 1982
00:13:28.860 is no longer sufficient to them?
00:13:32.480 What's your take on why this is happening?
00:13:33.860 They didn't think it was a good thing back in 1982,
00:13:37.160 the whole issue of the...
00:13:39.760 Yeah, but they did sign on to it.
00:13:41.160 Well, we had no other choice, otherwise the whole thing would have fallen apart.
00:13:45.500 So God bless Premier Lockheed for that.
00:13:48.380 As for why this came up now, there's two reasons in my mind.
00:13:53.480 Everybody appreciate that I don't have a hotline to Mr. Carney's brain at all or anybody else's,
00:13:59.660 but this is what it looks like from where we sit in Western Canada.
00:14:03.300 First thing, this legislation that Quebec, the province of Quebec, has put out says it's banning religious symbols, and that's primarily affecting two sets of people, Muslim women and Sikh men.
00:14:21.180 So what they're saying is you don't wear that if you're a woman, you don't wear the hijab.
00:14:27.180 If you are a Sikh, you don't wear the turban.
00:14:29.920 I mean, that's pretty invasive.
00:14:32.140 And those people have lots of sympathizers who vote.
00:14:36.520 So from the federal government point of view, this is a great vote-getter.
00:14:41.560 We are coming to the aid of a significant demographic within Canada
00:14:46.060 who are being persecuted by the province of Quebec.
00:14:48.780 That's one thing.
00:14:49.780 The second thing is like unto it.
00:14:52.120 It is that they love anything that increases federal power.
00:14:56.480 And this, by taking away the right of provinces to say, no, no, we're not doing that, or we are going to do this and you can't stop us, that increases federal power.
00:15:09.820 I mean, in the Confederation, the federal government is like a jealous spouse.
00:15:14.780 They hate the idea that anybody has any say over anything, any kind of authority.
00:15:20.280 So this serves two functions.
00:15:22.300 this is the mind of a westerner who doesn't like the federal government very much
00:15:27.900 all right uh keep audible in the picture here um the uh the mou the memorandum of understanding
00:15:37.900 signed between the alberta and federal governments uh a number of months ago i mean what an odd
00:15:44.140 country that we essentially have like this one is essentially a treaty you know we have treaties
00:15:48.600 between governments in Canada, which is an odd thing for a federation to have.
00:15:54.400 It's missed its first deadline, Dave.
00:15:58.340 The premier in Alberta says, don't worry, everything's fine.
00:16:03.580 I've talked to senior officials in the government,
00:16:05.980 and they say everything's okay, nothing to worry about.
00:16:12.120 How serious was it that they've missed the first deadline for progress on this?
00:16:15.220 Well, technically, they haven't missed it yet.
00:16:17.120 it's april 1st they said oh they're going to me but she's she said they're going to mess
00:16:25.440 april fools uh yeah you're right derek she's she's she's don't worry be happy type thing
00:16:32.240 there's four four things that they still have to come to an agreement with as of monday one was a
00:16:39.680 deal with pathways alliance uh deal on impact assessments a deal on the carbon tax and a deal
00:16:46.880 on methane emissions well low and below just today this morning they announced a deal on methane
00:16:52.080 so maybe that's what uh smith had in the back of her mind when she said don't worry be happy
00:16:57.480 uh so that's uh one off the list there's three to go and uh you know for some she's she's put all
00:17:05.320 her political capital in this fight against ottawa it's it's her neck on the line uh so for
00:17:11.580 her to seem happy i think she's probably got some cards up her sleeve uh she was talking down in
00:17:16.520 Houston at CIRA week that foreign investors are looking very favorably in terms of building a new
00:17:24.540 pipeline. But she says they won't completely own it, but maybe 30%. So I think there's stuff going
00:17:30.960 on in the background nobody knows about. Corey, all of us were at the UCB convention in Edmonton
00:17:39.400 back in November. And I think it was the day before, one to two days before the convention
00:17:45.240 opened, uh, that this MOU was signed. And, you know, I, I expected going in there that people
00:17:52.120 would be, um, wait and see on it. Like, eh, I don't know. We don't trust Ottawa, Ottawa screws
00:17:59.900 us every single time. You know, I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with the football here,
00:18:03.540 but you know, wait and see our leader of the party and the premier is, is invested in this.
00:18:11.200 we're going to trust her on it. I was shocked that it was damn near unanimous there that everyone
00:18:19.220 was like, this is bullshit. This is never going to happen. Why are we, why are we even negotiating
00:18:24.740 with them? Um, even if we did get a pipeline for it, uh, you know, Alberta has to essentially
00:18:31.140 agree to the federal industrial carbon tax as permanent and legitimate. Um, we have to agree
00:18:36.820 to this other carbon capture stuff that's not all
00:18:38.920 it was business.
00:18:40.480 It was
00:18:41.240 very hostile there
00:18:44.000 coming immediately after
00:18:46.880 the Premier and the leader of that party
00:18:48.740 signed an agreement
00:18:49.620 that she put a lot of political capital in.
00:18:53.860 What is the
00:18:54.700 danger for Smith here?
00:18:56.500 Does she look like the person of good
00:18:58.760 will who was betrayed by Ottawa if this doesn't
00:19:00.760 work? Or does she look like the dupe
00:19:02.820 who should have known better?
00:19:03.700 I've she's at risk of looking like the dupe if this keeps up as Dave said you're putting on the
00:19:10.160 smiling face well look I had this methane agreement well a lot of people look at that
00:19:13.620 it's just one more capitulation we didn't feel we'd had to do all this to get a bloody pipeline
00:19:18.360 in the first place look at this list of things we have to do for them to do something we never
00:19:23.540 should have had to come begging and groveling for to begin with and then you to celebrate that you
00:19:29.080 one in four of them made the deadline I'm sorry that's not a victory that's another embarrassment
00:19:33.360 uh i i'm not and i don't like being hard on premier spit i like what she typically is doing
00:19:40.220 and i know she has alberta at heart but this i and i understand that she's got to try and work
00:19:46.720 through mechanisms that are there to get things done but it's time for her to start taking less
00:19:50.900 of a you know smiling uh positive attitude and start pulling out some claws like ottawa's
00:19:56.820 stringing her along and we're getting sick of it and her own membership as you said is getting
00:20:01.220 very, very impatient. We know what Conservatives do when that tipping point gets hit within a
00:20:06.880 party. Just ask Jason Kenney or Alison Redford or Ed Stilmak. Don't join the list of all the
00:20:12.780 dead Conservative leaders on the sidelines. Listen to your members. You've got to do something better.
00:20:16.380 I think you're right, Corey, when you say the time has come. But when these agreements were made,
00:20:23.480 the time was actually right for the Premier to look as if she was trying to make the whole thing
00:20:29.100 work if she had been the surly one who had sort of sat there with her arms folded and frowned and
00:20:33.900 said there's no way i trust mr carney there's no way that ever ever we're going to do any of this
00:20:38.540 stuff uh she would have looked and acted like a scold who just nothing would ever satisfy
00:20:46.780 and i don't think that would have been a good look on her at the time anyway i'm sure you tried
00:20:50.860 but eventually as i say eventually your line has to work okay now we're at the point where you say
00:20:56.140 if this isn't going to work we've just got a war going on in the middle east where the obvious
00:21:01.580 value of everything that this province has been trying to do in energy comes to the surface and
00:21:07.260 we can't take advantage of it because those guys in auto well this is the time to actually make
00:21:11.580 that point and i hope she does because uh but at the time that the agreement was made i don't think
00:21:17.100 she could have done anything different but right now yeah we're sitting here we're sitting on
00:21:20.460 hundred dollar oil we're spinning our wheels we're seeing opportunity lost even if we started digging
00:21:25.900 a trench tomorrow the oil might be 30 a barrel by the time we get it to market anyways though
00:21:30.460 it is going to come up again when did you last fill up your truck oh 76 oh yeah bring it down
00:21:35.980 to 30 by reason they're crazy so i mean the only benefit we get from high energy prices though is
00:21:40.940 that we are ostensibly a major energy producer that can offset the pain of world energy prices
00:21:47.660 but if we aren't increasing our output to take advantage of that market we're not seeing a
00:21:52.060 benefit we're just seeing the drawbacks i could stand there filling my truck vehicle with a dollar
00:21:56.700 76 a liter gas while i could see an oil pump working in the background something's not working
00:22:00.940 right yeah so uh i talked with the staff about this i think i think it was yesterday morning
00:22:07.020 something for us to be at least on the lookout for i'm not predicting it will happen and i don't want
00:22:11.660 to sound alberta chicken little here because anytime ottawa does anything with energy
00:22:15.900 We maybe we're a little too we have a we have an innate reaction to say, ah, it's the National Energy Program 2.0.
00:22:25.080 And we do need to be on the lookout for it because of what happened.
00:22:28.860 And we know that they do have ambitions to do something like that.
00:22:31.740 They just don't know if they can get away with it kind of thing.
00:22:33.880 But the National Energy Program came to us in the early 80s in extremely similar circumstances as right now.
00:22:42.260 That came after the Yom Kippur War and the Arab oil embargo, and then followed on that in 1979 with the Iranian Revolution and the Iranian oil embargo, and that sent global oil prices through the roof, and you had a Trudeau in Ottawa who had always jealously eyed ownership of the oil patch,
00:23:03.540 but also saw the political advantage and economic advantage for his eastern constituencies in
00:23:10.020 saying we're going to set a domestic oil price that is going to be lower than the global oil
00:23:15.480 price so alberta must first sell its oil domestically before it's allowed to export
00:23:19.920 and it has to sell at this much lower price much far lower than world market real market prices
00:23:26.180 and then after that then you can sell what you want externally that was the biggest gist of the
00:23:31.940 national energy program there was other things around around ownership stakes and all all sorts
00:23:36.440 of stuff but that was that was the biggest and most damaging part of it i mean it sounds like
00:23:42.560 i'm talking about right now in terms of the lead-up they got us there with first opec and then
00:23:47.500 the iranian oil embargoes we've got the strait of hormu the iranian war i i like to really say
00:23:53.740 but i like i'm almost at the point of saying i told you so that iran was not going to be a good
00:23:57.680 thing, that this was not going to work out, it was not going to be a quick, glorious decapitation
00:24:03.000 and the people rise up, the Strait of Hormuz is closed. And the Iranians so far show signs
00:24:10.400 that they might be able to keep it closed. And there's really just not much America can
00:24:14.160 do because it's not going to be worth getting a carrier sunk over it. So oil prices continue
00:24:20.340 at these high levels, and possibly even worse as things go. As Israel started targeting some
00:24:26.880 the energy infrastructure and Iran started retaliating against some of the Gulf oil energy
00:24:31.520 infrastructure. If that stuff continues, this could get a lot worse. And the temptation is
00:24:38.220 going to be awful hard for a government in Ottawa to resist, maybe not full NEP, but imposing a
00:24:45.520 domestic price cap because it's for both consumers and industry that are going to increasingly start
00:24:51.720 suffer here so in your uh grim prognostications there derek are you supposing that ottawa would
00:24:59.960 now insist that alberta sell oil east which it has been trying to do that would be and that's
00:25:06.120 the weird thing about this is that an alberta government might agree to it because it's like
00:25:10.040 well at least we're going to get a pipeline built to the east but we're going to be selling at a
00:25:14.040 artificially low price i mean the nep was all about getting alberta oil into eastern canada
00:25:19.640 Yeah, it wasn't a weird environment.
00:25:21.960 It doesn't matter how much Alberta wants to sell oil east.
00:25:24.900 They prefer to bring it in from the United States, which gets it from somewhere else, or get it from Nigeria.
00:25:29.860 But as the price gets higher and higher and higher, you could see, and I certainly hope Smith wouldn't agree to this,
00:25:37.380 but hey guys, we're going to get a pipeline going to the east, so Alberta, you get your pipeline.
00:25:42.000 But there's going to be a price cap on it, artificially imposed by Ottawa, to ease the industrial and consumer costs in the East.
00:25:51.060 What we do is get the pipe built.
00:25:52.880 As soon as it's there, when you have the ribbon cutting, turn the tap off.
00:25:58.160 You can stare at that empty pipe as long as you want.
00:26:00.620 Here's the price if you want to fill it.
00:26:02.660 And what are you going to do?
00:26:04.120 Dig it up again?
00:26:04.840 But we will have had to agree to a domestic price cap in the meantime.
00:26:07.400 Hey, deals are made to be broken.
00:26:08.660 Look at the notwithstanding clause.
00:26:10.560 Okay, touche.
00:26:11.440 yeah i guess they can play that game um and i know i'm more adversarial than most on this but
00:26:17.440 but i mean part of the national energy program is talking about forced infrastructure but
00:26:21.040 that's getting to the point of nationalized infrastructure and you're not going to get a
00:26:24.400 private investor to want to come in and fill that pipe or deal with it when you're at the whim of
00:26:28.320 the federal government on what you're allowed to sell the product for so the next step is building
00:26:31.840 because that's what happened before too so with it well we started red square and built the petro
00:26:35.680 canada towers and an oil company that managed to lose money for 20 years until it was finally
00:26:40.480 privatized this this cycle will continue as the other one did unfortunately but that other aspect
00:26:46.880 of it was it also created more western alienation that had never been seen and it didn't have the
00:26:51.840 simmering fire under it in 1980 already they would do this after our independence reference yeah yeah
00:26:57.920 i think it only the only circumstance i see that really happening would be if uh you know this
00:27:03.200 would be longer term if we have long sustained like the nep did not happen well what year is
00:27:07.360 Yom Kippur? 73? Yes.
00:27:09.540 Okay. NEP
00:27:11.400 did not happen in 73. There was lead-up
00:27:13.260 to 70s shortages to really build.
00:27:15.420 Yeah, so it took years of
00:27:17.440 gasoline shortages,
00:27:19.840 high fuel prices,
00:27:21.640 hammering industry, hammering consumers,
00:27:23.860 and then you saw,
00:27:25.200 you know, you've got a similar kind of character
00:27:27.340 as Phil Davis, you know, the Ontario Premier
00:27:29.240 at the time, guy who was very willing to work
00:27:31.360 with the Liberals. I could very much
00:27:33.380 see a Doug Ford saying, hey,
00:27:35.140 Ontario's manufacturing
00:27:37.340 industry is getting hammered here our consumers are getting hammered we need some cheap gas
00:27:41.400 you could see a Doug Ford easily working with a federal liberal government on this kind of thing
00:27:47.420 where you saw Bill Davis supporting pure Trudeau for exactly this kind of thing I don't think it
00:27:52.460 happens tomorrow it's not going to happen certainly before an independence referendum
00:27:56.040 but if it happens it's it's we're going to have to go through a sustained period of high prices
00:28:00.540 well it'll be really interesting to see what Quebec does if all of this follows out as you
00:28:04.860 does as you have described because they have said that they don't want a pipeline carrying
00:28:08.940 dirty alberta oil across the back fine guys don't have it carry on paying three dollars a litre for
00:28:17.120 your uh for your gasoline i have a feeling their their minds would be brought to silver up you bet
00:28:22.120 yeah and most quebecers when they survey this they don't have a problem with it it's just the
00:28:26.880 politicians yeah it's the political class that seems to hold a lot of sway but you know if you
00:28:30.920 have a long period of sustained high prices bleeding industry bleeding consumers the political
00:28:37.060 consensus in Quebec will eventually change and I'll say like well in my city forward too and
00:28:43.200 that attitude though would it be cooperative or it's as I was going to talk about the national
00:28:47.000 discussions always when oil is $30 a barrel it's Alpera's oil when L's $100 a barrel it's
00:28:51.640 and uh how well that'll be received and it gets back to I guess Smith's attitude was is that the
00:28:58.880 time where she's going to be willing to draw a line in the sand because you know even if that
00:29:03.820 referendum's passed i mean how much more can we deal with oh well i guess to paraphrase uh you
00:29:10.520 know uh high oil prices has many fathers and uh low oil prices is an orphan yeah i heard it
00:29:18.260 you know the solution to high oil prices is high high oil prices if people go looking for
00:29:24.780 other alternative supplies is that is that the thought no no no you know victory has many
00:29:30.880 fathers uh and and defeat is an orphan uh yeah that's kind of cory's point you know when it's
00:29:36.580 low oil prices alberta's dirty oil but when oil is expensive and everyone's hurting and everyone
00:29:41.400 else wants some of that oil money it's a national simply it's canadian how true yeah okay uh
00:29:49.980 and i go to cory first on this one uh so our our headline edit is not intentionally misleading we
00:29:57.720 just didn't know how to make it any shorter and still makes sense uh but six days left not to
00:30:03.040 give carny your guns exactly but to tell carny about your guns so what's you know what's happened
00:30:07.500 is uh you know there's three broad three main categories of firearms in canada there's non
00:30:14.260 restricted restricted and prohibited um and under trudeau they just very arbitrarily took
00:30:22.460 thousands of different kinds of firearms and went straight from non-restricted all the way to
00:30:27.420 prohibited and non-restricted ones aren't registered the restricted ones are so pistols
00:30:32.540 and certain kinds of certain kinds of you know sport shooting rifles and things like that they're
00:30:36.480 registered so the government knows you have it but they went straight from non-restricted all
00:30:41.100 would have prohibited so they banned these things without knowing who's actually got them they didn't
00:30:45.080 really think this through very well um this has been going on for years the program has failed
00:30:50.820 in comic proportions they've seized virtually nothing um but now they've they've they've uh
00:30:57.960 you know all of us most of us at the table got letters from the federal government saying
00:31:01.540 hey you have until this date to notify us that you have some of these uh naughty guns and if you
00:31:08.700 don't um you know they're they'll be paying they didn't really say what they'll do but they'll be
00:31:14.640 paying for it um but you register by this time hey we might even give you a little cash probably
00:31:19.620 pennies on the dollar of what your gun's actually worth but uh yeah the deadline for that is six
00:31:24.560 days from now yeah that's their version of a carrot actually because what they're kind of
00:31:28.880 saying is you know just participate in the program now so that you'll qualify for the bio
00:31:33.400 When you turn it in voluntarily, as we expect you to do, the real thing is saying we're going to steal your gun.
00:31:40.960 We're going to tell you the price for it.
00:31:42.280 But if you want to get anything for it, you've got to start participating now.
00:31:46.860 And we just know from the history of firearm owners of the worst category of people who are going to voluntarily participate in this program.
00:31:55.960 It's not going to happen.
00:31:56.860 They did their pilot out in Cape Breton, which they thought would be the most fertile world.
00:32:02.440 tell everyone how well that worked yeah was it 25 firearms i think they got all from the trailer
00:32:06.960 yeah pretty much and i think most of those were things like oh well grandpa left us in the house
00:32:11.740 i don't even know what it is fine i'll bring it in it's not the person who owns and utilizes that
00:32:16.840 they've blown it again but this is that thing with this government it's an ideological thing
00:32:21.140 they will not they haven't geared up since ellen rock in the 90s with the failed registry that
00:32:25.860 same thing they're asking everybody to participate in the registry that their accuracy rate of that
00:32:30.820 thing was only about 60 percent i think at the time after spending billions on it
00:32:35.860 it's just absurd but they're trying to serve a particular constituency the karens of this
00:32:42.340 quebec mostly mostly in quebec this is not to this is not to dismiss the gun outrages that have
00:32:49.380 happened but they don't exactly happen at the same rate in canada as they do in the united states
00:32:54.820 so it's not really a fair argument but they do this partly from ideology i think there's a lot
00:33:00.580 of people who've never held a gun and would go like that if one was you know you want to try it
00:33:05.380 you know you targets down there just give it a go no no no but they they are very beholden to a
00:33:12.340 certain demographic for their votes and it's not the demographic of young men who almost entirely
00:33:20.980 went for pure poly f and who conceivably among their ranks maybe several gun owners and some
00:33:27.140 with assault-style weapons.
00:33:29.900 So this is another attack
00:33:32.220 on people who don't vote for them
00:33:35.540 and that they don't like
00:33:36.740 and think have,
00:33:38.100 what was the expression,
00:33:40.320 unacceptable opinions.
00:33:42.340 This is a partisan attack
00:33:44.660 against people who don't vote liberal.
00:33:46.600 So Dave, this is,
00:33:48.760 when Carney came to the leadership
00:33:50.620 of the Liberal Party,
00:33:51.480 of prime ministership,
00:33:52.480 he kind of did away
00:33:54.540 with some of the low-hanging fruit
00:33:55.600 the clearly, some of the dumbest
00:33:57.940 stuff, you know, the consumer
00:33:59.580 carbon tax and
00:34:00.740 things like that, stuff that really irritated people.
00:34:05.820 This so-called
00:34:07.240 buyback program,
00:34:09.700 it's pretty universally
00:34:11.640 understood to be a disaster.
00:34:13.620 It's not going to work. You know, we all
00:34:15.420 remember, I don't know,
00:34:17.540 firewall's the right term, but a lot of us saw the clips
00:34:19.700 of the minister
00:34:21.580 with the unpronounceable name, Minister of Public Safety,
00:34:23.780 just Gary.
00:34:24.600 gun grab gary yeah i mean like that's we'll give him that name that's much easier than what he's
00:34:30.780 got um he um didn't know the most rudimentary stuff about firearms at all and he was made
00:34:38.260 the fire uh the uh public safety uh minister i mean it'd be like making me the minister of
00:34:45.300 rocket science actually i'd probably have a more rudimentary understanding than he did of guns
00:34:50.060 so they know this is a bad idea they know it's going to be a boondoggle in money that they're
00:34:59.540 not going to get probably the vast majority of these firearms that taking these firearms will
00:35:03.920 also not improve public safety I think Carney knows this he's not a dummy the way you say Trudeau
00:35:09.400 was but they're doing it anyway what do you think the politics are behind that to to to make Carney
00:35:19.620 do something that he probably knows is a bad idea, but do it anyway for political reasons?
00:35:25.400 No, because he can get away with it, right? It's not going to cost him any votes for,
00:35:30.060 you know, the people like Nigel said, who voted for Polly Evan and our gun owners.
00:35:35.840 Gun Grab Gary is one of the top, most incompetent ministers that Carney has. He's fighting that
00:35:43.040 race closely with Lena Diab of immigration. But, you know, nothing's going to happen, Derek.
00:35:49.620 We've seen it all before over the decades.
00:35:52.380 It'll be a multi-billion dollar boondoggle.
00:35:55.820 Everyone will express shock and horror.
00:35:57.980 And after the next election, they'll go and rewrite it again and come up with a new way to try and find laws that people won't obey.
00:36:05.100 I imagine people who own these type of weapons are very busy at the moment with shovels and land and burying them so they can't be found.
00:36:16.580 and then claiming they were lost, which is what people are going to do.
00:36:21.480 So it's going to be interesting.
00:36:22.760 I mean, we should start an office pool on who.
00:36:26.920 They're going to have to make an example of somebody, right?
00:36:29.480 They're going to have to arrest somebody.
00:36:30.660 Why'd you look at me?
00:36:31.400 Well, I'm thinking we should have an office pool,
00:36:33.120 whether they're going to come for you or Corey.
00:36:36.860 Well, I don't have any firearms on there, Travery.
00:36:38.720 No, no, no.
00:36:39.420 I don't own any guts.
00:36:40.860 I don't know what this is about.
00:36:42.100 I don't know why you'd look at me.
00:36:43.120 uh so uh cory i i think dave was half right i think he got it half the answer right
00:36:50.940 that he's not going to lose any votes uh from these people because gun owners just
00:36:56.680 but the people who do care about this he stands to lose votes if he doesn't do it
00:37:03.780 and these guys i mean they're dedicated to it in their world view the government says
00:37:08.480 something's banned therefore it's gone they don't seem to seem to see the that logic applying to
00:37:14.200 anything else like say drugs you get banned drugs all you like uh you can maybe push it underground
00:37:18.720 but you they don't go away um but you know you've got these these anti-firearms groups out there
00:37:26.380 they could cost the liberals uh votes i mean they could cost because where are they going to go
00:37:32.360 the ndp's dead in the water yeah and and these these loony left gun advocates that are pushing
00:37:38.040 that used to pull some sway,
00:37:39.380 they're not going to go
00:37:39.960 to the Conservatives.
00:37:40.820 It's kind of, that's a similar zero-sum.
00:37:43.480 You know, those Conservative young men
00:37:44.860 are not going to vote Liberal
00:37:46.140 under any circumstance anyways.
00:37:48.100 But likewise, that constituency
00:37:50.320 they're pandering to
00:37:51.520 doesn't really have a home
00:37:52.820 that they can migrate to.
00:37:53.900 No, they do, especially
00:37:56.180 considering a lot of this
00:37:57.080 comes from Quebec,
00:37:58.020 when the Bloc Québécois
00:37:58.780 is very much not a spent force.
00:38:01.180 And the NDP is still there.
00:38:03.180 It's, I mean, it's kind of like
00:38:05.360 the Black Knight with his arms
00:38:06.420 and legs chopped off at this point.
00:38:07.820 but it is still alive even if it's insisting it's just a flesh wound it's still technically alive
00:38:14.140 and it does take votes away from the available universal universe of liberal possible votes so
00:38:22.300 you know people on the left have more choice than people on the right people on the right
00:38:26.060 say well what are you going to do there really isn't much the pbp pbc is essentially spent there
00:38:30.860 was an interest sorry corey there was an interesting poll out today 44 of ndp voters
00:38:36.780 nearly half have no idea who's running for the leadership of ndp voters nearly half to have no
00:38:42.860 idea who's running for the leadership so uh i think you're giving them too much credit
00:38:47.580 they'll sit around 12 in the polls and that's 12 the liberals would very much like to have
00:38:52.060 or to not let you get bigger than 12. i don't know if the anti-firearm movement really is that
00:38:56.940 big though i mean you know if you talk to somebody enough that it's a deal breaker that they're
00:39:00.780 going to say that's where i'm basing my vote is that issue i mean for the firearm owner it certainly
00:39:06.140 is but for the person who's anti i don't know i don't say you know the trigger issue i mean i
00:39:11.340 could be wrong because it's not my mindset i'm trying to put myself in the shoes of somebody i
00:39:15.140 don't understand so maybe it really is a deal breaker to them i guess i just wouldn't see that
00:39:19.680 as i mean there's just a lot of issues going on yeah is that the though issue that's gonna make
00:39:24.340 oh i'm not sure how many people that's the single issue for but it's probably like a big one you
00:39:28.300 know like when i've decided in the past the various times to non-vote conservative it's normally not
00:39:32.740 one single thing so there's an accumulation yeah it's something you know uh uh erin o'toole running
00:39:39.980 on a carbon tax that was even worse than justin trudeau's that was the final straw but there was
00:39:44.340 a lot that got me there to that final straw first this would be a final straw for some people or
00:39:50.380 contributing fact for others but particularly in quebec where the ndp is not their main rival on
00:39:55.240 the left it's the block i think that's why they're doing it is because they they don't want to open
00:40:00.360 themselves up on the left side they know it's a bad idea they know it's not going to work they
00:40:03.460 know it's going to cost a bunch of money but you know did the long gun registry completely kill the
00:40:09.440 liberals for all time well it did with gun owners but they've already lost it so the lost side of
00:40:13.820 the equation has already been baked into the price for the liberals but they stand to lose
00:40:17.380 on the other side if they don't do it we'll see i mean they're stubbornly hung up on it for sure
00:40:22.640 they know it's an old loser i mean they certainly don't have the courage to say let's crack down on
00:40:28.060 the Mohawks who are importing all the illegal guns that are actually committing the crimes that would
00:40:31.580 be refreshing but yes that's not where they're gonna go and there is actually only one actual
00:40:36.960 military gun that was on the list of banned guns and that was the SKS and they very properly pulled
00:40:43.380 it off and you know why because indigenous people own thousands of them there's them for deer hunting
00:40:48.920 up north they're cheap and reliable yeah solid the communists really only ever did one thing well
00:40:54.760 And that would produce large quantities of cheap and reliable small arms.
00:40:59.940 You know, communism somehow, that's one thing that worked.
00:41:04.520 And so, you know, those things are all over the place, especially going to reserves.
00:41:07.820 And there's lots.
00:41:08.320 And actually, unfortunately, a few of them have been used in some pretty bad crimes over the last few years.
00:41:12.740 You know, it's kind of ironic, isn't it?
00:41:16.100 150 years ago, the problem was white guys going to the Indians and selling them rifles and whiskey.
00:41:22.860 And now the problem back east is white guys going to the Indians to buy guns for illegal uses, pickups on the legal cigarettes.
00:41:31.020 You've got to give them a little credit there, I guess. Fair enough.
00:41:34.860 Really turn that around on us.
00:41:36.740 Let's just call that my parting shot.
00:41:40.120 All right. Well, that's a good segue to our parting shots. Dave.
00:41:45.200 Okay. Presented without comment, but an interesting development at the legislature today.
00:41:50.700 There's been talk from the leaders of the independence people that there's a lot of support in the UCP caucus for independence.
00:41:59.300 The press conference on crime today, alongside the premier, the public safety minister, Mike Ellis, was wearing a Canadian flag and an Alberta flag pin.
00:42:08.820 And he was asked about it and, you know, he's supporting Alberta within the United Canada.
00:42:14.880 and the Premier held up Ellis' notepad or binder
00:42:21.360 and it was adorned with Canadian flags as well as Alberta flags.
00:42:25.000 So it looks like there's at least one UCP member
00:42:27.800 that is not an independent supporter.
00:42:30.000 The one who reads land acknowledgments.
00:42:31.880 Yes, that's him.
00:42:32.700 Yeah.
00:42:34.520 Mike, if you're watching,
00:42:36.760 the Verily's cut out the land acknowledgments.
00:42:39.320 Like, good God.
00:42:42.800 All right, speaking of land acknowledgments,
00:42:44.880 we're on the traditional territory of cory morgan oh yeah and i hit this a bit on my show but i just
00:42:49.340 have to hit it again hats off to jen gerson for putting out the picture on x of the room set
00:42:54.680 aside at city hall in calgary where all the toys are laid on the table for councillors and city
00:43:01.540 staff to play with to try and wind down because they have the hearings over the land use oh that
00:43:06.520 wasn't meant for kids oh no that really i thought it was meant for kids that really is meant for the
00:43:10.760 counselors that's for the counselors and staff now they got a therapist and a therapy dog coming in
00:43:15.040 too because these patty wastes and that's what i'm going to call them are going to get their
00:43:18.900 feelings hurt because some upset landowners are coming in and speaking in harsh terms over the
00:43:23.040 hearings over the next few days so they're doing all of this to accommodate so these snowflakes
00:43:26.680 don't melt down over the course of this jen has been back and forth saying no this is
00:43:31.840 people uh not understanding this wasn't a joke i'm posting on x this was really what she's seen
00:43:38.040 I saw it briefly.
00:43:39.360 Yeah, where a kid is playing.
00:43:40.140 Because a kid plays with toys.
00:43:41.380 I didn't think it was a big deal because I was like, oh, they got a room for the kids with toys.
00:43:44.320 Ah, whatever.
00:43:45.000 Scroll past.
00:43:45.420 That's the safe space for the...
00:43:47.120 Oh.
00:43:48.420 Mercy.
00:43:48.900 So it's worth mentioning again, you wonder why your governance is bad and why there's much more to be flushed out than just the mayor and a few counselors.
00:43:55.340 There's your example of it.
00:43:56.560 I took my older kid to the dentist yesterday and I had to sit for an hour in the waiting room with my three-year-old.
00:44:04.720 and the i hadn't been to this but because we had switched dentists and we'd gone back i'd been
00:44:09.720 there since before covid and the toy room the toy room was empty there was no toys there just like
00:44:14.200 some potted plants and stuff i said what happened to the toys they're like well we had to get rid
00:44:17.800 of them during covid and i guess like many things they just never came back to normal
00:44:21.320 that's why i had to sit there for an hour with no toy room for my three-year-old to spend time
00:44:26.180 with your kid yeah and i was thinking like well you sit alone with my son for an hour in a waiting
00:44:34.120 room with no toys if you had toys i could play with them there was nothing so he was like taking
00:44:39.260 a bottle of water and dumping it like it was a bad scene so yeah i could have used the toy room
00:44:44.880 i did not know that was for the actual camp i thought that was for the counselor that's their
00:44:49.140 little cool down retreat oh i'm trying not to take they got a therapist and everything already
00:44:56.720 lined up so is this the western standards good cause of the month to raise money to put toys in
00:45:02.200 the hospital waiting rooms no raise money for toys for our city councilors they gotta do like
00:45:06.680 other places when derek yells at me i go to the bathroom and cry in silence as we're supposed to
00:45:10.380 not having us take it like a man that's right we need a toy room here i think so yeah it's called
00:45:15.360 the bar downstairs the bar downstairs right it's closed now oh yeah so nagel was that your
00:45:19.740 partner shot yeah let's call it a party okay oh that's good because we're practically out of time
00:45:23.780 i'll just take quick note for those who haven't seen our email go out or uh the um brief video
00:45:30.400 statement i made um uh beauty pageant contestant and uh all-round beautiful woman jessica yaniv
00:45:41.360 has sent a legal notice to the western standard that she's taking us to the human rights commission
00:45:48.160 for hate crimes and essentially for misgendering him uh and uh and also that she'll follow he'll
00:45:56.160 she follows follow up with civil suits to get us as well saying you've misgendered me and this is
00:46:02.200 blah blah blah blah blah and i'm taking you to the human rights commission and we have to take this
00:46:05.680 seriously because just like a month or so ago there was the new felt decision in british columbia i
00:46:10.720 actually read the full legal judgment today it was so much worse than i thought i mean we've we've
00:46:16.240 tried to do it justice in our reporting but i read the full legal decision it's way worse than
00:46:22.220 anybody knows it is positively totalitarian it's not just you're not allowed to say this
00:46:27.860 you are required to say this and you must believe it in your heart otherwise you're guilty of a
00:46:33.900 crime here uh and this guy got fined seven hundred thousand dollars for disagreeing with trans
00:46:39.180 ideology being pushed on little children um we are way more guilty than that guy and jessica
00:46:47.580 Yaniv, in his legal notice to us, said that this is not just isolated incidences, it's systemic.
00:46:58.040 To which I responded to Mr. Yaniv, it's absolutely systemic.
00:47:02.740 In fact, it's more systemic than you know.
00:47:04.580 And I shared with him screenshots of our style guide, where we systemically misgender him as a policy.
00:47:13.500 It's literally in black and white.
00:47:15.320 you know we say uh you know if if we're reporting on a trans person but it's not
00:47:19.680 relevant to the story well you you fine we'll call them whatever whatever they want he or she
00:47:26.320 no skin off our back but if it is relevant to the story we're going to use their real biological
00:47:30.880 sex and we're not going to use silly words made of words like cisgender and crap like that we're
00:47:35.960 going to say that's a male that's a female that's a man that's a woman etc anyway so uh this is
00:47:41.480 coming down the pike for us uh we've uh raised some money from western centered readers and
00:47:46.800 viewers already did you want to mention how mr yaniv first came to public uh attention oh the
00:47:53.560 wax my balls guy uh lady yeah yeah so you know he um did this he first came to notoriety for
00:47:59.900 going after some poor vietnamese immigrant ladies running a some kind of aesthetic salon or something
00:48:06.080 you know nails and waxing and uh he demanded that they wax her balls god i just love saying
00:48:12.280 that sentence he demanded that they wax her balls just nuts it's it is nice well and don't don't
00:48:20.000 forget also i think it was the city of langley had to send her a cease and desist order because
00:48:24.540 she kept getting into a bubble bath and then phoning the fire department to say she can't get
00:48:29.140 out so all these big hunky firefighters had to come over repeatedly to her to help her get out
00:48:35.120 the bath yeah she's nuts and and he's trying to get into beauty pageants in ontario uh he's made
00:48:42.560 death threats against people he's vandalized property and gone after people this person is
00:48:50.240 i i don't mean this flippantly this person is a very public danger this is someone who i really
00:48:56.720 don't think should have a gun if we're gonna have good gun legislation that dick should not have a
00:49:04.240 gun and as long as jessica yaneva is allowed to have a gun but we're told we're not allowed to
00:49:09.360 have guns none of this stuff makes sense because that's someone i could not trust with a gun
00:49:14.800 all right so anyway i'm sure this is going to be i did just caption this clip right now because
00:49:18.800 this is going to get played at uh at my trial at the uh bc human rights tribunal uh so i just want
00:49:25.280 to say to everyone in the crowd thanks for coming out and to the commissioner on the tribunal who's
00:49:31.440 watching this go f yourself you have no business judging what a publication can say so that's my
00:49:38.520 parting shot all right nigel cory dave thank you very much john on production for running the show
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