Western Standard - The new Bloc-Liberal coalition & Justin breakup

00:00:00.000 good day today is september 18th 2024 i am derek phildebrand publisher of the western standard

00:00:29.760 and you're watching the pipeline i am joined as always by western standard senior opinion editor

00:00:37.120 or just opinion editor nigel hannaford i was gonna say how many opinion editors do we have

00:00:42.080 uh i was referring to you as a senior i see

00:00:47.440 there's no pension plan but anyway it was a good save i was actually i was actually mixing it up

00:00:52.320 with then uh cory's title senior alberta columnist morgan i was mixing it up but instead i just made

00:00:58.320 an old joke i'm happy to be here too they joke like an old joke oh yes it doesn't get old all

00:01:05.440 right uh we've got a great show uh just tons of stuff um the uh we're gonna be talking now that

00:01:13.200 jake meetsing has ripped up his agreement with justin trudeau we're heading for an election right

00:01:19.600 right no no we're not because there's a new coalition in town the bloc quebecois and the

00:01:24.640 liberals uh doing a dance the bloc will be supporting the liberal government by voting

00:01:30.240 that they have confidence in justin trudeau and the government uh next week when pier polio and

00:01:35.280 the conservative party's uh non-confidence motion comes up so we're gonna be talking about the dance

00:01:39.760 the bloc quebecois and the liberal government are doing and just how much this just might cost the

00:01:45.600 rest of us outside of canada the roc uh now this is i don't know how to talk about this one the

00:01:53.840 straight face uh they did it again they did it again uh man the massad i'm guessing this has got

00:02:03.280 it's got to be massad uh the israelis have executed what has got to be one of the most interesting

00:02:10.800 covert operations in world history targeting a bunch of hamas terrorist bosses well they didn't 1.00

00:02:17.280 use drone strikes they didn't uh they didn't shoot them they didn't snipe them they sold them a bunch

00:02:23.040 of modified pagers and uh simultaneously they went boom uh castrating uh many terrorists uh across the

00:02:34.480 middle east region particularly in lebanon all at once and uh well say it what's the new hamas slogan

00:02:44.480 from the liver to the knees i mean like that title does right that headline writes itself from the

00:02:52.000 liver to the knees so we're gonna be talking about that uh speaking of interesting body parts uh being 0.97

00:02:59.360 rearranged um alberta mla jennifer johnson she was the conservative nominee in the constituency of

00:03:07.360 lacombe pinocca uh she made some comments during the last provincial election was not allowed uh to

00:03:13.680 sit with the conservatives her comments were deemed by some to be transphobic they were at a very at the

00:03:19.200 very least they were they were indelicate and um so she's been doing penance uh since the last election

00:03:24.960 she had to she's had to sit as an independent mla uh supposed to go through some kind of sensitivity

00:03:30.720 training around trans things and all that and um well a uh biological male who identifies as a woman

00:03:39.520 um well we're gonna play the video for her but he very publicly tried to bully her and say things that

00:03:44.960 she knows is scientifically and factually false and uh this has caught the attention of jk rowlings the author

00:03:52.800 of the harry potter series and uh it's become a global phenomenon now um the kind of trans bullying

00:04:01.040 of this alberta mla into trying to force her to lie publicly and it it seems to have blown up in her

00:04:08.080 face uh quite spectacularly and you know uh we're gonna we're gonna start a new segment today parting

00:04:15.280 shots some final thoughts from uh myself nigel cory that um maybe don't have to get the time for a full

00:04:22.480 segment but really just need to be said before we uh close the show down okay so let's uh let's go

00:04:29.280 take the news to ottawa here last week i believe it was last week jake meet singh walks in front of

00:04:36.000 the cameras and says i'm ripping up my agreement with justin trudeau i am done being his patsy

00:04:43.600 justin trudeau's a bad guy uh doesn't matter that i've been responsible for keeping him in power for the

00:04:49.040 last uh two plus years here um he's a bad guy i'm against him we're ripping it up uh that changes

00:04:57.200 the dynamics uh because then all of a sudden pier poliev to no one's surprise says oh well let's see

00:05:04.160 if you really mean it do you really if you ripped it off that means you must you saying you don't have

00:05:09.200 confidence in justin trudeau well let's vote on a motion of non-confidence shall we so uh the the

00:05:15.840 pier poliev has indicated he's introducing a plain motion of non-confidence just simple language

00:05:22.720 and uh justin trudeau has been forced to find a new dancing partner and

00:05:27.120 well he may have broken up with uh jagmeet but he uh he looked to the other end of the dance hall

00:05:32.880 and there is uh yves uh blanchette the leader of the bloc hippicoke

00:05:37.840 thank god but sometimes i wish we had our block out west because they are ruthlessly pragmatic he says ah

00:05:45.040 we don't care who the prime minister is but we want to squeeze the government for we want to

00:05:50.000 squeeze the west of canada as much as we can for the profit of quebec yeah it's cynical but good god

00:05:59.600 i think something only the bloc hippicois speaks about how canada really is none of the federalist

00:06:05.440 parties will talk this way and actually talk about the truth of how transactional canadian federalism is

00:06:10.320 it's just it we're a corporation at this point we're just it's purely transactional and the bloc

00:06:16.320 understands this the way no one else does and they say it out loud so god bless them so uh it was

00:06:23.680 announced today the uh the bloc québécois will not be voting non-confidence in justin trudeau and uh

00:06:31.040 their their price has been um only a few uh i think i don't know the exact amount but it'll amount to

00:06:36.720 roughly five billion dollars a year in perpetuity by increasing the oas which will disproportionately

00:06:42.080 benefit quebec uh that's a bloc québécois bill that needs liberal support to pass so um

00:06:50.800 nigel uh do you think uh is this just a one-off or do you think we're seeing the beginning of uh

00:06:58.000 maybe the new maybe not long-term dancing partner but uh medium-term advancing partner for the liberals

00:07:02.880 the prime minister needs the bloc to get him to the next election theoretically in october of 2025

00:07:12.000 constitutionally possibly in october 2026. that one won't happen but yeah i love it when you say

00:07:20.080 that will never happen because then it does then then because this is canada this is canada it could

00:07:25.440 happen and for viewers he'll never invoke the war measures act to deal with some bouncy castles for

00:07:30.240 viewers who are not familiar with it the constitution does permit five years between elections we have

00:07:37.760 run on four years between elections as being appropriate for the last 40 years no malroni went

00:07:43.840 to five that was in the case of a majority government and that was before we had fixed election date

00:07:48.160 legislation so nothing stops under the fixed election legislation the prime minister can call an early

00:07:54.080 election uh especially if he has a minority then he has an excuse but to go past four years you

00:08:00.160 would need to repeal the fixed election date well they've already done that once that was for their

00:08:05.040 pensions they've moved it back by a week yes but uh they would have to outright repeal it to go to

00:08:09.680 five years well they could do that i mean they could alberta had a balanced budget act too but i think

00:08:14.320 you know really we had a fixed election date law and it didn't mean anything to uh uh uh jim prentis

00:08:21.040 the thing that really makes it hard to talk about this with uh with compassion is that here we have the

00:08:28.320 liberal government the most unpopular government i think we have seen in this country uh since actually

00:08:35.280 since the uh kim campbell government and they are staving off certain defeat by making an alliance with

00:08:43.360 who the party that wants to break canada up the bloc quebecois the party so you know it reminds me of 2008

00:08:55.920 when there was that coalition of interest between the bloc the ndp and the liberals to bring down the

00:09:01.120 harper government in the end they were called on that very thing how can you make this depend on the

00:09:08.000 participation of separatists answer you can't they backed off but now they're doing it it's a shameful

00:09:14.320 day i i don't know uh minority governments have operated with the support of the bloc in the past

00:09:19.760 including stephen harper's now uh that was those were always one-off deals and this does not appear

00:09:25.840 to be a coalition uh of the informal kind like it was between uh you know until jagmeet seeing ripped

00:09:32.480 up his deal with uh justin trudeau with much fanfare or the formal coalition that hadn't been proposed

00:09:39.280 in uh i think was it uh was it 2008 yes yeah 2008-9 yeah between 2008-9 kind of went over that period

00:09:47.680 um this is more akin to i think when harper worked with the bloc but it's a qualitative difference i

00:09:54.720 mean here is a we will back you for a year give us money uh harper i need your support today well

00:10:01.680 no no i i don't think we've seen a written agreement with the bloc that's equivalent to say with the way

00:10:07.280 the liberals have to deal with the ndp i don't think they're going to show it to you anyway

00:10:10.320 no no uh perhaps they achieve an informal understanding because uh jagmeet singh uh

00:10:18.320 corey has been humiliated no one like even his own supporters were kind of facepalming a bit

00:10:24.320 about you know his bravado that i'm ripping up the agreement he how many he sounded like a frog rip it

00:10:29.920 rip it rip it rip it like the talking points were absurd after he spent so long backing trudeau

00:10:35.520 jagmeet singh has been humiliated for over two years in his position he cannot back the liberals

00:10:44.000 again in the first confidence vote that comes up the conservative point forward here um

00:10:50.480 i think i don't think the the bloc intends to be a permanent fixture in the government the way

00:10:56.320 the ndp has been for for the last two plus years i think they are looking for kind of one-off

00:11:01.520 transactional deals so that when the next election comes you know they can say here's what we

00:11:08.480 accomplished because the biggest knock against the bloc in quebec is generally that well you can't be

00:11:12.720 a part of the government you can't deliver the goods this is a way for them to turn around and say

00:11:17.600 here's how we delivered the goods you would have never got it without the bloc and they're coming 0.98

00:11:21.040 off a fresh by-election win just yesterday uh where do you think the block is that strategically in

00:11:26.960 this well actually they're kind of similar to where singh was they're both parties that know that

00:11:31.280 they'll never be anything more powerful than being in a kingmaker position i believe that

00:11:36.000 polyev is going to try and get a confidence vote whenever possible and when that happens the bloc's

00:11:40.880 going to come forward and say to trudeau if we want if you want to stay in you've got to do something

00:11:44.800 for us and something that's different this time is the bloc is well placed to go into the next election

00:11:50.320 jb singh never was i mean you know he he was they're not a well-funded party they're not going to do any

00:11:56.800 better than where they're sitting right now as you said the bloc has just come off of a by-election

00:12:01.600 win they're not afraid to go to the polls so their threats of saying we will support a

00:12:05.920 non-confidence motion are real and that really puts trudeau over a barrel when it comes to those

00:12:10.960 negotiations and the really strengthening their hand today was winning that uh by-election in uh

00:12:19.040 verdun something on the island of montreal that seat has been continuously liberal for 40 years

00:12:25.520 before that it may have been pc or something at some point but uh it's never been a bloc seat

00:12:30.400 the bloc has never been particularly competitive on the island of montreal they just took this is

00:12:35.920 the quebec equivalent of the toronto saint paul's seat the liberals are losing their very very

00:12:42.480 safest seats they're they're losing the keep of the castle and the bloc just took that from them so

00:12:48.640 they have a lot of leverage right now the liberals are terrified of an election and i think they'll do

00:12:55.040 anything to avoid one and and that's a powerful point uh that's a very salient point you made

00:13:00.160 corey that the ndp have always been terrified of election they had no money they literally just

00:13:04.480 paid off their campaign debt they have no money in the bank they're low in the polls they're going

00:13:07.920 to lose seats the bloc stands to gain seats they got money in the bank they're doing decently in the

00:13:13.360 polls but they also know that they have more leverage in a minority government than in a majority

00:13:18.400 and they've already said peer poly is going to win the next election he's got it in the bag he's

00:13:21.920 gonna have a majority government so we're we're in no rush to give up our leverage yeah and i mean

00:13:28.800 it's it's but they will in a heartbeat if they don't get what they're asking for yeah and uh

00:13:33.680 hopefully trudeau knows it i mean what he knows and doesn't know this

00:13:38.320 i think mr trudeau is very well aware of how much he is going to have to pay the block in one way

00:13:44.080 or another to stay in that position for another 12 months he's what what could he possibly not

00:13:51.520 understand well and i i mean the thing that gets me though is i i you know i was tormented by question

00:13:56.640 period in the newsroom today and i listened to trudeau get up there and give his stock lines on

00:14:01.280 the carbon tax and everything else he sounds exactly though he's giving the exact same line

00:14:05.760 he did in the house of commons that he did a year ago he's he won't change his tune he's incapable of

00:14:10.800 changing his tune even though he's this low in the polls tells me that this is a man who really

00:14:15.360 doesn't know how precarious his position is but cory you sort of misunderstand the purpose of those

00:14:21.280 dumb lines it is not to inform it is merely to get through the hour yeah and treading water all he

00:14:28.000 has to do is say something and make it sound good and that's all that is required of him well the

00:14:34.560 liberals just had their uh their uh caucus retreat in ninaima where uh we had western

00:14:39.120 stead reporter jared yager out there uh and the conclusion the liberals came to to uh to address

00:14:46.080 their low numbers is drum roll more justin trudeau the reason canadians don't love justin right now

00:14:54.480 is because they just haven't had enough of them just don't understand them right yeah so

00:14:59.120 uh canadians need to engage more right yes canadians need to engage more that's why they

00:15:04.720 lost the by elections okay well let's uh we're gonna move it on now uh so this is one of my favorite

00:15:12.640 headlines in a long time from the liver to the knees uh so israel's pager assassination program 0.89

00:15:22.960 i mean if the jews had been in charge of the cia they would have got castro they would have 0.89

00:15:29.600 castrated castro um i mean we're gonna roll some of my favorite memes and photoshops and videos going

00:15:37.840 aside but uh i mean uh gentlemen you've probably seen some of the security footage coming out of

00:15:43.040 lebanon of some hezbollah guy and he's with the grocery checkout counter and uh all of a sudden his um

00:15:49.920 um his midsection disappears uh it's you know i mean there are rules to war and

00:16:00.880 doing that kind of thing would normally i'd be like even to the worst kind of guys i'd be like

00:16:07.760 i don't know i don't know that's that's a little much but then i was reminded yesterday that

00:16:12.800 these guys brag about rape they love rape they use rape on industrial scale as a weapon of war 0.89

00:16:21.440 so you know what i think it's quite apropos uh that the israeli uh we'll just back out to the

00:16:26.960 story for a second maybe i gotta have myself the israeli government i guess intercepted these

00:16:31.520 pagers from a i think they're from like taiwanese company uh and then in budapest they're assembling or

00:16:36.400 manufacturing or something yeah and then they know they got they got modified uh maybe they took out

00:16:40.480 a bit of memory a bit of ram and uh they put in some c4 and all of a sudden uh there's a twitter

00:16:48.000 account uh you were talking about before we saw a satirical account and which is a comms branch of

00:16:54.080 massage they they have inside info so quickly it's it's quite yeah it's humorous and then uh i guess

00:16:59.520 literally as all these pagers were going off uh that account tweeted uh boom beep beep

00:17:05.680 that's it beep you said you know what the heck are they tweeting about beep and then you know

00:17:09.920 so suddenly the twitter scroll starts because suddenly uh hezbollah members are going off like

00:17:14.240 firecrackers throughout syria yeah so okay corey i guess let's back up to the point i was making that

00:17:20.080 i mean uh it's covert operations there's going to be assassinations i mean it's it's a dirty business but

00:17:26.320 all governments engage in it um israeli government under particular threat engages in it maybe more than

00:17:31.840 others but they're under more threat than others uh my initial reaction was a bit of a chuckle at

00:17:37.680 these guys but then i thought ah i don't know i mean for the guys who survive it uh that's that's a

00:17:44.560 particularly nasty meaning but then i thought these are people who um who particularly delight in

00:17:50.160 industrial scale rape this is everything that people supposedly been demanding of israel for a long 0.79

00:17:55.840 time israel's been getting hundreds and hundreds of rockets sent weekly from hezbollah out of

00:18:01.440 lebanon into residential areas that they're constantly having to battle off and fight off 0.61

00:18:05.520 they're completely indiscriminate about who they kill in israel if israel dares to have any collateral

00:18:10.560 damage and a defense retaliation they get hillary this was pretty hard i've never seen any nobody's

00:18:16.640 ever seen anything as brilliantly targeted as this where it only hit hezbollah combatants yeah it hit a

00:18:23.040 certain part of them but it hit them they'll have trouble penetrating israel or anything now yes exactly

00:18:29.440 but i mean you know what do you want israel to do that because israel could launch missiles and

00:18:33.840 artillery straight into beirut if they wanted they could turn it into glass if they can flatten beirut

00:18:38.480 tomorrow this was a brilliant move it terrified the other remaining hezbollah they don't know what to 0.98

00:18:44.240 trust now the walkie-talkies are blowing up on them yeah uh you know nobody aside from a hezbollah 0.99

00:18:50.080 member was using a pager in the last 20 years yeah that that was my fact that was my very first

00:18:55.360 reactor was are you sure was pagers blowing up like who's using pagers and that really helped

00:18:59.840 because they're analog and they realized they've been getting tracked by their digital phones and

00:19:03.600 of course being nailed by drones so they said well let's go analog now israel can't track us 0.52

00:19:08.080 except some smart smart people in israel figured out that well if we just hit the pagers nobody else is

00:19:14.960 using them it was a brilliant tactical move uh plus the other aspect i mean you know i don't know how

00:19:20.560 far down the rabbit hole we want to go but an injured soldier is far more devastating in a war

00:19:26.800 than a dead one because they have to be treated they have to be taken care of they walk around

00:19:32.960 crippled or handicapped or mutilated as a reminder to everybody else of what can happen it's demoralizing

00:19:39.520 uh i it was a brilliant tactical strategy from a country that's been getting it from all sides

00:19:44.720 just you know don't join hezbollah and your balls won't get blown off uh nigel um 0.99

00:19:48.320 um it's it's a nasty move it's a nasty move i i don't think it could happen to much more deserving

00:19:56.480 people uh than hezbollah or hamas but it's a nasty move well it is you know and we've played it light

00:20:03.920 as we should it's hard not to chuckle about that but you know i i would just say this to anybody who

00:20:12.960 feels strongly that somehow the israelis have done something we're assuming it's the israelis who else

00:20:17.600 would it be you know um that they have done something rather nasty especially nasty you know

00:20:25.760 look at those images from october the 7th again and you will see what nasty really looks like you

00:20:32.800 know the women bleeding from the uh from you know it's just uh just awful awful stuff we have no idea

00:20:41.520 what those hostages have suffered in the past year um some some who have been released seem to

00:20:47.920 have come through it okay the ones who are still there hard to know but my word i have no sympathy

00:20:55.920 i just can't work up the sympathy this was deserved yeah i've been trying to be sympathetic we're trying

00:21:02.080 i've been trying to have sense of balance and then i just i just have a hard time feeling bad for

00:21:07.760 these it puts out some messaging that maybe even these guys will get i mean it's been happening

00:21:11.760 since you know the olympic atrocities in the past israel has a long memory they're very patient

00:21:18.000 they're very meticulous put that bloody thing away derek no no i am and they're they're gonna get you 0.77

00:21:25.280 if it takes them years i'm reading here from uh the massad satirical and awesome it's uh this is the

00:21:32.000 account you were talking about you just brought me they tweeted the international olympic committee

00:21:36.480 announced today that hundreds of hezbollah fighters now qualified to compete in women's

00:21:40.640 boxing that's right i mean uh let's take it a few shots all in one or a castorati choir i mean

00:21:46.080 you know the high-pitched voices in lebanon now yeah something else yes uh they can yeah uh

00:21:54.160 it's you know in some ways that's worse than death it's worse than death in some ways especially if

00:22:00.800 you fashion fancy yourself a martyr like because you know these guys you know martyr culture getting

00:22:06.000 your 71 is it a 71 or 72 versions 72 72 i only got 71 i got cheated and there's versions right not

00:22:14.000 virginians that's right which maybe it is virginians that would be another great irony i mean it's you

00:22:18.320 know depends which translation you're looking at you got george washington jefferson kicking you for it

00:22:23.040 that is the most humorous part but some of them really didn't mean them other ways actually which is

00:22:27.280 you know again it's war it's ugly but a lot of them the first thing they did when it beeped because

00:22:30.960 i guess took up so they picked it up if they could get it off and they held it so a lot were blinded

00:22:34.720 because it went off in their face yeah uh but again these were small charges aside from a couple

00:22:39.600 of cases they weren't blowing up whole rooms they weren't the reduced not zero collateral damage but

00:22:45.360 reduced was was outstanding as far as an act of war like this goes when you can take 3 000 combatants out

00:22:52.320 with only a handful of other individuals harmed that's amazing but you know what this is uh okay

00:22:58.720 i'm gonna get in trouble for going down this rabbit hole because some of the semantics but

00:23:03.600 we've been wrestling with the issue since especially since 9 11 of defining what is terrorism

00:23:10.640 and you know generally terrorism is bad violence committed by the other guy our side never engages in

00:23:16.080 terrorism and well that's not true i'd say terrorism terrorism is a flexible concept but i generally

00:23:23.520 define it as an act of political violence where the act of violence is uh where the the psychological

00:23:32.000 effect is disproportionate to the actual act of violence um 9 11 killed a lot of people but the

00:23:39.760 psychological effect was no different than an atomic bomb drop it um this uh this was smart but it

00:23:50.240 terrorized the terrorists they are now uh pardon my french the crap in their pants so they don't know 0.97

00:23:57.200 where to go like how can they okay well we have to stop using uh cell phones as they were tracking us

00:24:01.760 so they use this and then they literally blew their mid-sections off and the walkie-talkies when they

00:24:06.400 switched to those those blew up too yeah so now they they really know that somebody said you know

00:24:10.480 they're gonna watch their digital toasters now yeah so like it is putting terror in the hearts of

00:24:16.640 terrorists and and and that is smarter than simply killing your enemy and that's what the west often

00:24:21.760 does is say okay here's the bad guys eliminate them this is you have to terrorize terror to them but

00:24:26.960 a little bit just on the definition of terrorist too though is a terrorist is indiscriminate with who they

00:24:32.560 target in fact they might go out of their way to target civilians that's what i mean they hit

00:24:36.320 a music festival they hit young ladies that you know people can accept combatants hitting combatants

00:24:41.840 terrorism can also be against the military target we tend to think of it as targeting civilians

00:24:47.600 but yeah depending what you did if you lined them all up and then slowly castrated them that would 0.97

00:24:51.200 certainly be an act of terrorism uh yeah well look but i'm trying to use it in a non-judgmental

00:24:57.360 term that terror is and has always been a tool of warfare yeah and there's a strong psychological

00:25:04.880 aspect to this and the west is very careful about not using it too much this terrorizes them oh yeah

00:25:10.400 and i think it was a good thing yeah i i did as a disincentive as i said for up-and-coming terrorists when

00:25:15.920 they see their uncle you know waddling around missing his parts you know maybe law school looks a little

00:25:22.160 better than joining hezbollah actually uh while small boys will make a fortune carrying letters by bicycle

00:25:29.200 home from one house that's what they're pitching to now they're gonna go pigeons well and the israelis

00:25:34.560 will find a way to make the pigeons explode okay all right well uh let's move on um so yeah also

00:25:43.680 speaking of uh rearranging uh the midsection um okay so uh jennifer johnson she was elected as the um 0.88

00:25:52.400 mla here in alberta for uh lacombe panoca and uh she had won the ucp nomination uh in that writing

00:26:00.800 she was the ucp candidate during the election i don't recall exactly what she said but uh she said

00:26:05.840 something very clumsily that that they came across very poorly i don't think i don't think it was

00:26:12.240 intended the way it became spun but she said it and she had she wore she played the political price 0.95

00:26:17.680 for it danielle smith to kind of save the rest of the ticket said uh well if this person's elected 1.00

00:26:22.800 she'll have to sit as an independent not the ucp so she's been sitting as an independent since

00:26:27.680 and you know they essentially said well for you know for for the party to take you back bring into

00:26:32.560 the caucus you have to neutralize yourself as a political risk to us that means going out and

00:26:38.640 doing essentially long story short sensitivity training earning some endorsements from sexual

00:26:44.400 minority communities etc she's been out doing that but uh someone from the trans community really

00:26:53.520 really overplayed their hand uh with a video i don't know if it happened yesterday or if just the

00:26:58.080 video came out yesterday but let's let's roll at least a clip of this video of uh jennifer johnson

00:27:03.760 being re-educated um i'm gonna throw it over to victoria now and she'll just touch on a few a

00:27:10.480 little bit more about that uh hi jennifer i really want to thank you for meeting with us today and

00:27:16.320 taking the time to uh try to signal that this is more of a priority for you absolutely delighted to

00:27:21.840 meet with you all yeah thanks for having us um before i would ever say though that this was a

00:27:26.720 productive meeting and be counted to the list of contacts that you've reached out to in the queer

00:27:31.760 community i have to know a few things of where you sit um will you state on the record right now that

00:27:37.280 trans women are women i've never been asked that before will you say that on the record right now

00:27:46.880 no i want to have some time to think on that okay well that's me um have a great day and i will be

00:27:53.200 speaking out against this meeting because you are clearly not ready to have this so i'm not going to be

00:27:57.920 added to the list of meetings that you are going to have with people where you say well i met this

00:28:02.080 person and this person because no no no no you can't say i've had these consultations and use

00:28:08.160 that as justification for you to work your way back into caucus which is why we know you're really here

00:28:13.920 this only happens this meeting is only happening because you're on twitter in the twitter sphere and

00:28:20.720 people are debating whether or not you're going to be led back into caucus and premier smith is debating

00:28:25.040 that and so you need to do some pr work and i'm not going to be your band-aid i'm not going to be your

00:28:30.240 pink washing unless you can tell me right now that you believe that i as a trans woman right now right

00:28:37.520 here am a woman then we don't have a lot to work on here you want to talk about listening to the

00:28:42.720 community if you can't start with that basic foundational principle that we are who we say we are

00:28:48.720 in our bones then i don't think we're on the same page for working forward so i'll give you one last

00:28:55.280 chance are trans women women will you say that on the record right now victoria we can disagree on

00:29:01.200 things and not on that not on my identity no no no no not i can still care about you even if we

00:29:06.960 disagree wonderful but i will be speaking out against this meeting 100 if you can't say that

00:29:12.880 right now because i'm not going to have you add my name to the list of meetings that you've had to

00:29:16.800 show that you're quote doing the work because you're not doing the work the work is the inner work

00:29:21.600 you're learning the outer work you're learning what you're allowed to say in public and what you're

00:29:25.200 not so you don't get in the situation again because you got caught saying what you really thought

00:29:29.920 and you did think that but you haven't shown that you've changed because if you can't respect us

00:29:36.880 then how can i work with you if you don't believe that i am a woman sitting right here right now

00:29:44.720 how on earth are you saying that you're working with me what work have you done then if you can't

00:29:48.400 start with yes victoria you are a woman can we disagree and still respect each other no goodbye

00:29:58.560 okay so what you saw there was a biological male uh xy chromosomes demanding that jennifer johnson

00:30:07.200 evidently a woman a real woman uh uh demanding that she say something that she does not believe to be 0.56

00:30:17.120 true i would assume so uh she was extremely professional and calm and courteous she showed

00:30:23.280 no ill will towards this trans person uh she was actually remarkably polite and to use perhaps the

00:30:31.440 wrong term gentlemanly in the face of uh of this berating could we not say ladylike ladylike yeah that's

00:30:38.640 that's that's what i was just grasping for words here i i i was looking for someone's like i know

00:30:42.880 gentleman leaves the wrong term but thank you for thank you for that intervention keep me around

00:30:49.200 yeah yeah um so uh and then jk rowlings the uh the author of the harry potter series uh said that this

00:30:57.840 is a man bullying a woman uh so very rare that a big international figure like jk rowlings chimes in on

00:31:05.280 local alberta politics in lakomen pinocca uh i did not have that in my bingo card uh for news of the

00:31:11.120 week but that's what happened um i'm sorry with you nigel um i i think uh she was eventually going 0.83

00:31:21.440 to be let into these i guess we can't say back in because she never actually sat with the ucp

00:31:25.360 she was technically elected as an independent but it said conservative on the ballot because it was too late

00:31:29.440 to change it uh it seems to me that uh this bully uh who tried to force her to lie and say something

00:31:39.680 she did not believe to be true in public has probably helped her and i at this point uh you know you and

00:31:47.040 i are still working our our sources on the ucp side i think smith and the ucp caucus have to let

00:31:52.720 her back in now i think their their next meeting uh she's going to be coming out of that as a ucp mla

00:31:57.440 i i would certainly hope that you were correct on that derek the matter of what she actually said

00:32:05.600 is quite hard to uncover now because the the news reports are all by agencies which we identify as

00:32:15.200 mainstream and they are therefore tend to take a pro-gay pro-trans interpretation of everything but

00:32:23.920 as much as i can say the discussion was how well the alberta education system was doing and but

00:32:33.280 she was making the point that we've got children identifying as cats and the teacher puts the

00:32:39.840 litter box in the classroom for them and then she went on to uh to talk about um to to make the comparison

00:32:50.560 of pieces in like we're doing so great but we have these weak spots it's like

00:32:56.560 pieces in your cookie dough metaphor is a very dangerous thing in political rhetoric and this one

00:33:04.960 was like an exploding uh pager uh for for her so yeah she just paid the price on that and more it was

00:33:13.600 it was it it was at the very least a very clumsy way of expressing herself it was however i think

00:33:20.080 most people who know her know that she's actually a pretty decent person and that that came through

00:33:25.360 on the video but there's a larger point that that uh and you actually laid it out very well when you

00:33:33.120 introduced this subject when you said that she was being told by this individual to say something that

00:33:42.160 she did not believe as the price of continuing as a public person her continuing uh on her apology

00:33:52.000 to her so this is the but this is actually what is happening to all of us on a national scale here in

00:33:59.680 canada down south of the united states over in great britain to excess all over europe we're being told

00:34:07.600 to believe things that we know in our hearts and we know from the education that we receive are simply

00:34:14.240 not true and that individual asked jennifer johnson to say you although you were born a man are actually

00:34:22.800 a woman and in all conscience she didn't she felt she couldn't say that i would never agree to that

00:34:29.200 she just politely said uh i haven't thought about it no one's asked me that before so it was very polite

00:34:34.880 she didn't she didn't tell her off she wasn't mean and responding she was ladylike but this is a

00:34:40.960 microcosm in that little interchange of what is going on right across the country and not just in

00:34:47.200 the area of sexuality even the prime minister says if a man says he's a woman he's a woman well if a man

00:34:53.920 says he's a woman she is a woman perhaps watch your language perhaps perhaps he even said that but uh at any

00:35:00.960 rate i can't believe we haven't been pulled off of cable yet you know like like i'm just shocked

00:35:06.960 the online harms act will be the regulations will be devised we're on cable too uh it's just a matter

00:35:13.440 of time until they come for us well let's not let's not wish it upon ourselves but anyway look she's she's 0.75

00:35:22.240 she's actually carrying the fight for all this yeah uh corey i really hadn't actually thought much

00:35:27.680 about jennifer johnson too much until last night when i saw this uh she's not very she's kept an 0.92

00:35:34.800 extremely low profile and i think that was you know i i can imagine that you know after the last election

00:35:42.160 the ucp brass sat her down and they're like okay well we want to bring you home but it's going to be a

00:35:48.000 while and here's the here's the stations of the cross you're gonna have to go through to get there

00:35:54.400 and you're gonna have to be very quiet so that when we bring you back you're gonna be very quiet

00:35:58.400 and you're gonna have to have endorsements from some of these groups so that when you come back

00:36:02.560 there's some cover and the party doesn't take a hit for it okay i think that ended yesterday because this

00:36:11.440 person

00:36:14.560 i think this actually goes let's bring up to a to a macro level here the reason the pendulum i think

00:36:22.000 is swinging so hard against the radical woke side is because they never actually convinced

00:36:27.600 anyone of their arguments they imposed false consensus on society they bullied people they

00:36:33.440 silenced people they didn't engage in conversation and change hearts and minds on a mass scale they

00:36:39.360 had their hardcore that believes this already and then everyone else they just you know if you

00:36:43.440 disagreed they just yell whatever the latest uh excommunicate excommunicatory uh label is

00:36:50.640 racist sexist homophobe trans flow ism is that that doesn't convince anybody and this uh biological

00:37:01.280 male who was trying to bully her into compliance was just doing the way they've done been doing things

00:37:09.600 for the last decade or so in the heyday of the woke era and we saw it here and it happens to be in 2024

00:37:17.600 the year of the pushback as the pendulum swings back the other way so this dude will probably end up in

00:37:24.320 the senate you realize that oh god you're probably right uh but corey um do you think uh that video

00:37:33.520 i think in the absence of that video she was probably look at least waiting a while longer uh i think that

00:37:40.480 that video coming out yesterday and the professional way in which she reported herself uh and the fact

00:37:44.960 that actually actually her uh her runner-up uh in the ucp nomination there uh dusty uh i don't recall

00:37:53.440 the last name but dusty that was a hot nomination there were hurt feelings this was a nasty nomination

00:38:00.160 he came out today and said jennifer johnson needs to go to the ucp caucus this is someone who's not her

00:38:05.840 friend this is not someone who feels vested in her political success uh i i think uh all of a sudden

00:38:12.480 this has become a political imperative that smith and the ucp caucus have got to bring her home they

00:38:16.000 got to do it fast yeah they got to put this bullying to an end and it's not unprecedented yeah

00:38:21.040 i believe it's while you were in the legislature during the deborah drever thing uh deborah drever was

00:38:25.920 a ndp mla very shortly after being elected it was found she'd made some social media comments that are

00:38:32.000 these days considered homophobic well actually she was sworn in as an independent she was elected

00:38:36.880 as a democrat so it was even that very beginning because those comments came in out like days after

00:38:41.520 the election very similar anyways and and she had to do her penance in the legislature for a couple 0.56

00:38:45.920 of years and and say she'd done this and done that and no not not as long as johnson's had no but

00:38:50.640 she was brought back in and they said okay she's apologized and in both cases we're not talking about

00:38:56.080 people who had a serial pattern of making those statements these were one-offs that they you know the

00:39:01.280 the hysteria got going over i mean if johnson had had years of constantly railing and rallying

00:39:07.040 or insulting or something then it's a little more difficult uh if they don't bring her back in they're

00:39:13.200 making every other mla in their caucus vulnerable to this sort of thing there's going to be the woke 0.67

00:39:18.720 who feel that they should be life sentences for one misconstrued or poorly phrased or even insensitive

00:39:23.840 statement uh and you can't bow to them you cannot because once you allow that to happen they're

00:39:30.800 going to want to ruin more political careers and uh i i think the ucp is cognizant of this

00:39:38.000 and uh it's time there's no better time than now you're a couple years from the next election

00:39:42.160 let them have your their furor let them stomp their feet and uh it's going to be pretty much

00:39:46.880 forgotten presuming that uh miss johnson doesn't do anything to get in trouble again well i think 0.92

00:39:50.960 this inoculated her i think um and this is better than her coming in from a groveling apology to her

00:39:57.360 which seemed that she was kind of being forced to do yeah and i get the political reasons for 0.63

00:40:01.840 it but it was it was icky it was icky i don't want it gave me a bad feeling uh but you're i i think

00:40:09.280 you're you're very right cory they have to bring her in now to protect everyone else because they need

00:40:15.520 to stand up against this kind of bullying intimidation or someone you know in very 1984 fashion

00:40:21.280 says you know tell me you know it's noon right now tell me it's midnight and look me in the eyes

00:40:28.640 and convince me that you believe it we're gonna force you to lie and say something that we all know

00:40:35.920 you do not believe to be true that kind of intimidation and silencing they're overplaying

00:40:40.720 their hand like i i'm a libertarian-minded person and out of respect for another if you know i take it

00:40:46.480 case by case like other things if an individual presents to me they've been trying very hard to

00:40:51.120 appear in the gender they are that's what they feel and they ask could you please refer to me as

00:40:55.040 such you know what they're respectful and they're not if it's certain about some dude who stuck on

00:40:58.720 some earring says five o'clock shadow and a bulge in his pants and saying call me a woman no i won't

00:41:03.840 i'm sorry you're a man who's made a token effort of seeking attention or something i will distinguish

00:41:11.200 between what i think are ones that garner my respect and others yeah i make the call always

00:41:17.280 just depending on the attitude of the person if the person is respectful and you know treats me like

00:41:23.840 a rate uh a decent human being i will do the same to them even if i don't believe they are a woman 0.99

00:41:30.480 i just don't care enough i'll just be polite and call you by what you like

00:41:34.720 uh it all depends on the circumstance it depends on the circumstance yeah uh the case of uh this dude

00:41:40.560 that is not a respectful person that is not someone who deserves uh deference in return

00:41:46.640 uh that's not someone i'm gonna call man no uh all right uh parting shots is our first time doing it

00:41:54.080 uh you know we only can generally pick three maximum four if we really squeeze it in on the show

00:42:00.160 rather than try to squeeze in a fourth topic parting shots is going to be our new way we're going to try

00:42:05.680 out of being able to bring something up that's maybe gotten missed in the news or just didn't get quite

00:42:10.400 the attention it deserves and you want to just make a parting shot before we wrap up the show

00:42:14.880 so nagel first parting shot to you i take it one of the unfortunate circumstances of my life here is

00:42:22.880 that we have that tv with question period on right by my desk i can see it through the studio window i

00:42:28.560 have to listen to deputy prime minister and finance minister christia freeland who has perhaps the most

00:42:35.600 irritating voice of any prominent politician and yesterday she was trying to explain that we should

00:42:44.560 all be glad because inflation has been brought down to two percent and it has been as high as seven in the

00:42:52.160 last three years well good glad it's down to two percent but here's the thing because i'm the kind of

00:42:59.920 person i am i actually saved till slips knowing that it would come in handy one day so i went to costco

00:43:06.080 and i have three years of till slips and i have traced the progress of prices of individual items that my

00:43:13.120 wife and i actually buy as opposed to some fancy thing that uh that statistics canada puts together

00:43:22.320 we are up from a hundred dollars to 130 and now we're up to 132. i am not pleased with the liberal

00:43:32.480 record on inflation one bit now parting shot all right cory here for your parting shots here just a

00:43:40.160 quick shot just on the standards of legacy media i torment myself listening to the radio on the way in

00:43:45.200 sometimes i won't bother saying which show premier smith announced the big announcement of a massive you know

00:43:50.080 nine billion dollars in funding for schools and infrastructure and listening to the guests and

00:43:55.600 hosts on a particular show twisting themselves in knots to try and explain why this is a negative thing

00:44:01.760 we don't have the staff to fill these stools schools we don't have the ability to keep up with 0.97

00:44:06.960 them like can they not just at least for a change say she did something that needed to be done there's

00:44:11.680 plenty of other things to critique but they will never take a second even to give a little bit of

00:44:16.160 credit and i'm just sick and tired of it you know as good practice when i was sitting at the canadian

00:44:20.560 taxpayers federation dealing with you know the alice and redford government i hated 99 what they did

00:44:25.840 but when they did the one percent i liked i made sure to note it because it made me sound more

00:44:30.000 reasonable when i went after the other 99 and if you can't be that gracious to your opponents uh i think

00:44:35.920 it makes you a lot less uh credible all right uh my parting shot speaking of my old employer canadian

00:44:41.760 taxpayers federation uh they're uh they're kind of they're going after nenshi right now uh trying

00:44:48.000 to get him to make a clear position and statement on the carbon tax uh he he's had some wishy-washy

00:44:55.440 positions he's not been firmly for it he also hasn't been firmly against it either uh we've now seen

00:45:01.680 really beginning with uh when the liberals brought in the exemption for home heating fuel to essentially

00:45:06.880 give atlantic canada a break on the carbon tax but not anyone else the consensus around the carbon tax

00:45:12.800 following we went from the last election even the conservatives ran pro carbon tax

00:45:16.800 under erin o'toole to now even the ndp are at least on paper against the carbon tax david eb's ndp

00:45:24.800 government and uh british columbia sort of against the carbon tax saying well if you know if pure

00:45:30.800 paul aveller wins we'll we'll get rid of our carbon tax too um nenshi has had some statements

00:45:37.440 around it uh in an interview he did on west of center a podcast cbc uh where he said uh you know

00:45:44.800 we'll definitely have the industrial carbon tax thinking that that's a given i hope it's not a

00:45:49.120 given but okay but on the consumer carbon tax he had very wishy he just said well i'm not sure if

00:45:55.600 there's like political license for it if there's political license for it we'll have maybe a very

00:46:00.320 wishy-washy statement so the canadian taxpayers federation is trying to get nenshi to come on

00:46:04.960 the record for it anytime nenshi has spoken to reporters and been asked about it he's not been

00:46:09.520 very clear uh that's a position i think he's gonna have to take soon and considering that um if the

00:46:16.160 british columbia socialists have now turned against the carbon tax i would imagine that nahi nenshi

00:46:23.280 leading the alberta socialists is probably gonna have to side with to use a leftist term

00:46:30.560 the direction of history and get on board with where things are going which is no more carbon tax

00:46:36.000 that's my parting shot amen all right gentlemen thank you very much for joining today

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The new Bloc-Liberal coalition & Justin breakup

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