Western Standard - THE PIPELINE： Alberta Independence petition smashes threshold

00:00:00.000 Good day. Today is May 6, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard,

00:00:29.640 and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:31.580 I've got our usual lineup today,

00:00:33.840 former Western Senate Opinion Editor Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:36.900 Glad to be here, Derek.

00:00:38.020 Senior Alberta.

00:00:39.540 It is. Senior Alberta columnist Corey Morgan.

00:00:41.800 Good day.

00:00:43.020 And our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:00:45.360 Naylor, everybody.

00:00:46.740 All right, well, we're going to be talking about

00:00:48.360 the appointment of Canada's next Governor General.

00:00:52.340 I guess she's not the Governor General quite yet,

00:00:54.280 but she will be soon.

00:00:56.480 Um, the, uh, the usual suspects in the, uh, Laurentian media are hailing her as, as perfect.

00:01:04.660 This is exactly what we need.

00:01:06.780 My God, she speaks French. 0.89

00:01:08.540 I said, you know, that's not a knock against her, but, uh, just saying she is absolutely

00:01:12.460 pristine, a wall-to-wall, perfect coverage.

00:01:16.760 I've never seen someone, uh, so hailed as perfect person for the job since they hailed

00:01:21.780 Mark Carney for the job.

00:01:23.480 Uh, we'll talk about her.

00:01:25.580 We're going to talk about Listgate.

00:01:28.300 I couldn't come up with a better name for this scandal.

00:01:30.420 So when we're in the newsroom, Dave, and we just, there's a controversy, some kind of scandal.

00:01:35.640 And we just can't think of a creative name.

00:01:39.120 Stick a gate on it.

00:01:39.860 You just stick a gate on it.

00:01:42.120 Extremely lazy, extremely uncreative.

00:01:44.460 But that's what we're going with for now.

00:01:46.460 Listgate.

00:01:46.820 But the alleged leaking of the Alberta list of electors through the Republican Party of Alberta to a group called the Centurion Project, and that the Centurion Project posted this, made it available online, a huge data breach.

00:02:09.880 We'll talk a bit about the substance of it, but also what are the political consequences of it?

00:02:14.800 The opponents of Alberta independence have certainly seized upon this to try to discredit the independence movement.

00:02:23.280 They've tried to affiliate the entire movement with those who are alleged to have been behind the data breach.

00:02:32.300 Is this going to potentially derail the pending Alberta independence referendum that supposedly is supposed to come this fall?

00:02:41.680 uh but i guess the good news for the independence uh movement before that cory uh just uh was it

00:02:50.880 monday monday um the uh state free alberta the registered uh organization that was collecting

00:02:59.060 the signatures to for a citizens initiative referendum on alberta independence they officially

00:03:05.040 handed in

00:03:06.360 a truck

00:03:09.680 and they unloaded all the boxes

00:03:10.920 up in Edmonton at the headquarters of Elections

00:03:13.260 Alberta, far

00:03:15.080 surpassing

00:03:16.060 the requirement of

00:03:18.540 150, 170,000

00:03:20.960 that was required. They ended up

00:03:22.680 somewhere a little south of 400,000,

00:03:25.540 right? Well, it was

00:03:26.780 301,000 and changed, but it still

00:03:29.100 was well beyond the 178,000

00:03:31.300 required. I was kind of explaining that in my

00:03:33.140 earlier show with these petitions and things that elections Alberta, when they, if it gets to the

00:03:37.660 point of them going through them and scrutinizing, I guess that depends on the courts, but

00:03:40.700 they tend to look in and find an error rate, you know, bad addresses, duplicate names, things like

00:03:47.140 that. Even those of us who ran for office, when you get that little petition to hand in as your

00:03:50.980 nomination, they're often they'll cut out, you know, 10% of your names. Lukasik's petition,

00:03:55.700 about 13% got cut out. This one, I think it'll be a much smaller number because they were so

00:04:01.060 meticulous on this they demanded id of every individual who signed it was an accomplishment

00:04:06.200 i know people are trying to you know all opponents always will they're trying to understate what this

00:04:10.440 is but 300 and some thousand signatures garnered with such precision and care with the addresses

00:04:16.760 and the works over the winter months is not to be dismissed it's a that was an incredible effort

00:04:22.500 and uh they should be very you know that's one of the things that makes it a little bitter that

00:04:26.200 you've got this other issue to deal with.

00:04:27.820 That's, you know, we'll get, we'll get to that.

00:04:30.220 Yeah.

00:04:30.820 And it is an unfortunate cloud hanging over it, but I mean, so we'll, we'll get

00:04:34.440 into that because we've all got a lot to say about that, but we should, you know,

00:04:38.280 just give that credit where it's due.

00:04:39.760 History has been made the bar for invoking a referendum under, as far as the

00:04:45.040 current legislation goes is clearly been surpassed by this group.

00:04:48.760 It, it, it should be triggered if one believes that legislation is valid.

00:04:53.180 and uh yeah it was just a piece of history kind of being made they really made a mark that day

00:04:58.740 yeah and this was done uh over the winter months i know i don't want to take away from even though

00:05:03.460 i'm not on their side i don't want to take away from the uh forever canada ones who who did theirs

00:05:07.760 uh they collected uh an even larger number but i don't have to take away from it but they did

00:05:12.800 it during nice summer months i remember i'd be driving home it'd be a beautiful day i'd be on

00:05:16.620 festivals were large groups that people were yeah these got uh but the state free alberta petition

00:05:21.660 pro-independence. They did this through the most bitter cold months of the year. They did it with

00:05:28.280 constant attacks from Elections Alberta, ones that I do not think were justified. They did it with

00:05:33.660 court injunctions against it, like, hey, am I standing out here freezing my nuts off for

00:05:39.520 nothing? Is this not going to be allowed? And so despite all of that, they more, I think,

00:05:45.220 Roughly, nearly double the number of signatures required.

00:05:50.840 But, Dave, it still is not yet a sure thing this is going to happen on October 19th,

00:05:58.560 when there's some certain referenda already scheduled to take place.

00:06:02.980 I mean, this has still got some strange core challenges from some Indigenous groups in Alberta

00:06:08.360 that are claiming that they have a veto on this to not just stop independence,

00:06:13.160 but to even stop the question from being asked.

00:06:16.120 Yeah, and that's the next key step in this whole process.

00:06:19.920 The justice who put in the interim block, I believe, said she was going to rule in May.

00:06:27.080 So it should be in the next couple of weeks that we'll have a decision.

00:06:31.420 From what I can gather in the courtroom, the judge wasn't overly impressed with some of the Indigenous arguments.

00:06:39.020 So I would think that she'll throw out her injunction and both petitions will go forward and be ratified.

00:06:49.360 And then at that point, Smith has no choice but to call for the referendum in October.

00:06:55.580 It's just whose question will they ask?

00:06:58.000 Well, they are different questions.

00:07:00.900 The Thomas Lukasik question, the pro-federalist side, Nigel, it's bizarre.

00:07:06.820 we've talked about this before

00:07:08.580 but he uses the citizens initiative

00:07:10.720 process and then says

00:07:12.540 oh but we don't want a referendum

00:07:14.740 we did this to block a referendum

00:07:16.480 I mean Thomas Lukasik is not

00:07:20.800 my

00:07:22.580 cup of tea

00:07:23.380 but I don't know how you start

00:07:26.720 a citizens initiative or referendum

00:07:28.520 process to stop a referendum

00:07:30.580 from taking place

00:07:31.560 but if the courts refuse to allow

00:07:34.580 the independence one to take place

00:07:35.820 the Thomas Lukasik one is redundant

00:07:38.100 because

00:07:38.860 even if Canadians voted, Albertans

00:07:41.980 voted negative to it, so

00:07:43.640 kind of pro-independence, but

00:07:45.420 we don't support staying in Canada

00:07:47.380 I'm not a

00:07:50.080 judge, but I'm pretty sure that does not

00:07:51.860 constitute a clear question

00:07:53.580 on independence

00:07:55.040 because it's asking it in the negative

00:07:57.500 should Alberta

00:07:59.940 remain a province of Canada

00:08:01.300 and if people voted no to that, does that mean

00:08:04.040 well they want statehood or something like that

00:08:06.580 which is not really in any kind of

00:08:08.420 mainstream consideration

00:08:09.620 that would be a total waste of everyone's time

00:08:12.460 I think. Let's just

00:08:14.440 get on with the independence question. If you oppose it

00:08:16.580 you oppose it. It's fine. There's plenty

00:08:18.560 of reasonable people who don't support

00:08:20.600 independence

00:08:21.180 but voting to

00:08:24.660 not stay a part of

00:08:26.600 Canada doesn't trigger the

00:08:28.460 Clarity Act necessary.

00:08:30.240 It would be divisive

00:08:32.000 without accomplishing anything one way or another,

00:08:35.620 regardless of what the result is.

00:08:36.920 You have to put the Stay Free Alberta question on,

00:08:39.480 which does meet the requirements of the Clarity Act.

00:08:41.960 Well, that's right, Derek.

00:08:43.360 I mean, it's like sort of if you want yes, vote no.

00:08:46.360 It's that kind of a...

00:08:48.560 People are going to be...

00:08:49.680 I mean, you've explained it pretty well there.

00:08:51.840 Anybody who's paying attention can get it.

00:08:53.860 But at the same time,

00:08:55.280 how many people are really going to be paying that much attention,

00:08:57.480 especially when they have voices from the other side saying,

00:08:59.880 oh, no, no, you need to do this.

00:09:02.000 i would be i would be uh frankly a little surprised if uh if it was that one was allowed

00:09:09.200 to go forward if it's got to be just one of the other the the uh clarity act requires clarity

00:09:17.280 the kazakh motion doesn't provide that whereas the the other one does so uh

00:09:24.000 it maybe you know just maybe mr lucas your motion will go forward and then i guess

00:09:31.680 But he bizarrely says he doesn't want his motion to go for it.

00:09:34.660 Maybe it will.

00:09:35.740 And then to that, by totally confusing the issue and ending up with a stay in Canada,

00:09:41.900 vote, he'll claim victory.

00:09:43.400 The whole thing is...

00:09:44.840 Unless something will change based on the question asked, it's just a pull.

00:09:50.220 You know, it doesn't matter what the results are.

00:09:52.120 It could be 80% one side or 80% the other.

00:09:54.840 Nothing changes whatsoever based on his question, which makes it utterly pointless.

00:10:01.100 It was like the daylight savings question we had back in like 2023 or 2022 or whatever.

00:10:06.900 Even then, if people had taken one side definitively, something would have changed.

00:10:10.520 What with his is saying, okay, do you want to vote?

00:10:13.560 Everybody, let's just keep things the same.

00:10:15.160 Okay, if the yes side wins that, everything stays the same.

00:10:17.400 If the no side wins it, everything stays the same because it's still not a constitutionally valid question through that process on it.

00:10:25.480 So, you know, as we said, no matter what side of it you're on, that won't settle it, that won't have this issue out.

00:10:32.520 This needs to be, I think, if we really want to put this to bed one way or another, it has to be the valid question with constitutional teeth.

00:10:38.840 Well, even if the courts do disallow the Citizens Initiative question from State Free Alberta, the one asking Alberta should be an independent country, but Thomas Lukasics is for some reason allowed to go ahead, even though it's ostensibly kind of the same thing, but not.

00:10:58.220 The way the legislation is set up is that then the question is reviewed by the legislature and the cabinet, and they have the opportunity to amend it.

00:11:06.720 Now, it's important that that power should not be abused.

00:11:10.960 But, I mean, you know, say someone put forward a Susan's Initiative question here, but the question was not fair or neutral.

00:11:16.440 It's important.

00:11:17.540 That is one of the draws on direct democracy, is you can't have loaded questions.

00:11:22.060 You know, do you support the government's policy of rainbows and puppies?

00:11:26.040 That's obviously not a very fair and neutral question.

00:11:28.680 So even if Lukasik's question is the only one allowed to go forward,

00:11:32.720 the legislature and the cabinet can then amend it

00:11:35.740 into something that is fair and neutral and ask,

00:11:38.960 and actually, I don't even think it should be yes and no.

00:11:41.180 It should be something like the option should be

00:11:44.460 remain a province of Canada or become an independent country.

00:11:48.260 Not yes and no, because there's a presumption

00:11:50.960 that perhaps the positive, the yes.

00:11:52.860 I'd see a clarity challenge as soon as we hit that.

00:11:55.380 It has to be yes or no to keep it simple.

00:11:57.120 Oh, no, no, but instead of yes or no, it's

00:11:59.640 remain a province of Canada or become an independent

00:12:01.620 country. And then the debate becomes about

00:12:03.660 what an independent country means. 0.97

00:12:05.300 I know, I know it sounds foolish and pedantic, but 0.91

00:12:08.000 this really has to be 0.91

00:12:09.900 jury association, all that.

00:12:11.540 There it's a debate, but here, no one's talking

00:12:13.720 about sovereignty association or any

00:12:15.600 word games like that. Here it's like

00:12:17.260 Alberta, independent

00:12:19.860 or remain a province. I think

00:12:21.800 it's pretty clear in the Alberta context, perhaps not

00:12:23.760 in Quebec.

00:12:24.120 Well, Lukasik is now saying he just really wants a vote in the legislature.

00:12:31.840 So is it possible that both petitions could go forward?

00:12:36.220 Lukasik gets his vote and there's a sovereignty referendum?

00:12:40.360 Technically, his could get a vote in the legislature,

00:12:42.540 and then the state-free Alberta pro-independence one then goes to the referendum.

00:12:46.820 But I mean, both of them.

00:12:48.900 Or even something that could possibly happen,

00:12:51.020 and I don't expect this because this would really muddy the waters,

00:12:54.120 But his is a policy question and the other one's a constitutional one.

00:12:59.020 Both could run one-on-one ballot.

00:13:01.060 But what if they contradicted each other?

00:13:01.920 I know.

00:13:02.440 That's just what I'm saying is it's going to have to clarify one way or another.

00:13:07.300 Part of the legislation, actually, though, does require that the legislature and the cabinet are supposed to make sure we don't have redundant questions.

00:13:16.660 You know, like imagine if, you know, everyone was really hopped up on, say, daylight savings time.

00:13:22.600 And you had like, you know, different versions of the question, kind of more somewhat asking the same thing.

00:13:30.020 And then you would daylight savings time was kind of a confusing thing to me.

00:13:33.040 I actually don't think it should have been put to a referendum there.

00:13:35.700 There was I was like, no, experts make a decision.

00:13:38.100 Let me know.

00:13:39.220 Yeah.

00:13:40.400 But, you know, if you have the contradictory questions, the legislation says that the legislature and the cabinet are supposed to sort it out so that we don't have a bunch of redundant or contradictory questions.

00:13:51.040 We'll see what happens.

00:13:53.360 It's Smith's problem now.

00:13:54.960 You know, the thing is, this needs to be settled so that we can get on with other things.

00:13:59.920 And maybe the other thing that needs to be get on with is Alberta independence.

00:14:04.240 But just to continue to have this out there, dividing people is not helpful to anybody.

00:14:12.400 Not even the people who want to stay in Canada who

00:14:15.760 still have an uncomfortable feeling that the guy across the street may not be with them on this.

00:14:21.040 has to get sorted out so the question to ask is the one that at least gives clear lead and everybody

00:14:26.320 needs to know that whatever the result on this it doesn't if it is a pro-independence voice

00:14:32.400 there's a whole new cycle uh process that begins so this is just the start

00:14:41.600 i i you know i was driving up to red deer on monday and we're past a

00:14:46.000 It must have been about a mile and a half.

00:14:49.580 Carol K, the vehicles with the Alberta flags at the back.

00:14:52.920 I don't know whether you saw them.

00:14:54.340 At any rate, quite impressive.

00:14:56.700 They were just there, the lights flashing and the flags up,

00:14:59.780 and people were honking as they go on.

00:15:01.700 There's a lot of juice in this movement.

00:15:05.620 It needs to be decided.

00:15:08.420 All right.

00:15:08.640 Okay. Well, flowing very neatly from this is our very lazily titled next segment, Listgate.

00:15:19.340 Yeah, I really do. We're a part of the problem. We're part of the problem, guys.

00:15:25.800 When the media is too lazy or uncreative to come up with a scandal name, we add Gate to the end.

00:15:32.700 But in this case, we really didn't have much time, I guess.

00:15:35.800 So what is alleged to have happened, I think most people watching will have read or heard at least some of it, is Elections Alberta provides total lists of all the electors in Alberta.

00:15:50.620 I think it's roughly 2.8 million around there right now.

00:15:54.560 These lists are provided to all the political parties, and on a local level, they could be provided to local candidates running.

00:16:00.920 But there's strict rules around how, you know, they're not allowed to share them.

00:16:07.980 Now, there is some stuff around third-party vendors who can do work for them.

00:16:11.580 There is some stuff like that.

00:16:13.660 But they're strictly confidential.

00:16:16.940 What's alleged to have happened here is that the Republican Party of Alberta,

00:16:20.260 which is an independent-supporting political party, led by Cam Davies.

00:16:26.340 That's someone that, at least Corey and I, we, you know, dealt with in the past in our time with Wild Rose and the United Conservative Party and things like this.

00:16:37.980 It's alleged that they had provided the list of electors to something called the Centurion Project, which is led by David Parker.

00:16:47.540 Also someone who we've known and worked with in previous political lives here.

00:16:52.620 um and that the centurion project which is i guess kind of jumped in to the independence

00:17:00.460 movement that's going on here they had an app and the app had the full list of electors in it

00:17:06.580 and i guess it was not built very safely as i'm understanding this and that it was possible for

00:17:12.820 someone to go into that app and then obtain the entire list of electors of alberta including

00:17:17.880 their personal information their address all of this and you know it's some people have tried to

00:17:27.000 play this down it's not a big deal in one sense i get that uh been around politics these lists do

00:17:33.340 get around they're not as confidential as you think but generally people who are playing around

00:17:38.900 this these lists don't post it online for the world to see and and that's really where they

00:17:45.340 They appear to have lost the plot here.

00:17:48.940 I guess we'll talk about the political fallout of this for the independence movement in a moment.

00:17:55.220 But Corey, first, you know, your thoughts on the credibility of the accusations, you know, and how serious an issue is this?

00:18:05.820 Sure. And I think, yeah, Nigel's going to break down a little more about the legislation on the act and so on.

00:18:09.600 just to point out one thing I like people wondering though if it's you know questionable

00:18:14.640 evidence or things like that and everything and I know we can't fully condemn until things have

00:18:18.400 been investigated but I just want to quickly explain salted lists because non-political

00:18:22.340 people I don't think most people get that what that is so when they give those lists out to

00:18:26.180 different parties and individuals they will throw a few identifiers in there usually false names

00:18:30.960 people that don't exist whatever and it'll be unique to each list that's given out so that way

00:18:35.340 two things can happen with fake phone numbers and fake emails yeah so if those names pop

00:18:40.600 anywhere they're unique you know where it came from the second thing is if they pop anywhere

00:18:47.020 whoever has it even if it wasn't from the original source you know that this source has

00:18:51.440 accessed an electoral list so it's pretty cut and dry by the looks of things with what they

00:18:57.940 presented to get the injunction elections alberta went in and checked it they concluded it's an

00:19:03.920 electoral list that's in the Centurion Project, which there's two problems there. One, they

00:19:08.540 shouldn't even have it in the first place. Two, they sure as heck shouldn't have it so that others

00:19:12.860 can access it. So we've got two problems there, and they did conclude it came from the Republican

00:19:19.080 Party. Now there's a whole lot of explaining to do, I guess, on the part of Davies and Parker as

00:19:23.020 to how this all happened. That'll be the part of the investigation, but it's looking pretty darn

00:19:27.300 clear that this happened the problem now the political problem is people don't in at large

00:19:34.180 don't see the six or seven different independence groups and actions and things that are moving

00:19:38.100 around out there they just see an independence movement and they're seeing that this breach

00:19:43.860 came from this movement may have endangered people legacy media is jumping all over it the the best

00:19:49.620 example i saw already they were reporting on apparently a a woman who was afraid of uh

00:19:54.020 an ex who was a spousal abuser who tried to keep her location discreet now fears so badly that her

00:20:03.020 ex maybe had accessed the list through that and got her address that she has to move i don't know

00:20:08.620 if it's anecdotal or whatever but it does actually still illustrate the gravity of sharing people's

00:20:13.000 personal information and how badly it can go yeah uh so the centurion project here was not a part

00:20:21.940 of Stay Free Alberta.

00:20:24.980 As far as I know,

00:20:25.880 I think they were trying to assist with people getting

00:20:27.880 signatures, but it was not affiliated with it.

00:20:30.300 You know, the four

00:20:31.920 of us could get together and we'd call it the

00:20:33.820 Thursday Club and every Thursday we'd go sit at this corner

00:20:36.060 and we'd collect signatures.

00:20:38.040 That doesn't make us necessarily affiliated with it, but

00:20:39.760 groups can come on and jump

00:20:42.000 into it.

00:20:44.100 People not actively

00:20:45.840 involved in the independence movement don't understand

00:20:48.240 how wildly

00:20:50.080 decentralized this thing is. Even people

00:20:52.200 in the same groups fight like

00:20:54.320 cats and dogs. It's wild.

00:20:56.480 Let alone the different groups themselves.

00:20:58.600 And then there's different political parties.

00:21:00.800 Different third parties. There's third party

00:21:02.260 advertisers.

00:21:04.820 Educational groups. There's all these

00:21:06.380 different things. But as Corey said,

00:21:08.580 Nigel, people just

00:21:10.420 see the independence

00:21:12.340 guys. They don't understand who's

00:21:14.480 who and what's what.

00:21:16.040 And we can't reasonably expect them to.

00:21:18.400 how much damage do you think

00:21:22.940 this has done? And again, these are allegations

00:21:25.140 at this point, but as Corey

00:21:27.200 explained with the salted lists, you know

00:21:28.940 when someone at Elections Alberta gets

00:21:31.080 an email saying

00:21:32.260 you know, and the recipient is

00:21:35.240 you know, McLovin from

00:21:36.900 Grand Prairie

00:21:37.860 well, they know that, okay, well, McLovin was

00:21:41.160 on this, the list we gave to this

00:21:43.060 political party

00:21:43.680 this stuff is not rocket science

00:21:46.240 How much damage, do you think there's been significant damage done to the independence movement by this kerfuffle?

00:21:53.100 Yeah, I actually do. 0.96

00:21:54.280 You know, it's a clown show.

00:21:56.720 I went on their website, the Centurion Project, and they state that what they're trying to do is get people organized

00:22:03.700 so that they were effective campaigners in the fight for Alberta independence and come to our meetings, come to our classes.

00:22:12.780 i'm typically it's uh that you can you can see but then you find that they have they are alleged

00:22:23.340 to have done something underhanded and everybody who is sort of on the on the edge not another

00:22:31.420 diehards the diehards on either side are not affected by this but people are making up their

00:22:36.300 mind what do i feel that i sure don't like ottawa i don't like the values that they are

00:22:41.340 pushing on us through their legislation i don't like their the way they interfere with our economy

00:22:46.060 maybe it is time to look at this oh wait a minute if it's going to be people like this

00:22:52.620 and they're not even charged and and convicted yet but it just seems like a bit of a groucho

00:22:59.180 marks show and what would it does do damage now they're the victims being examined uh there may

00:23:09.340 be charges i mean if i had to have an office bet i'd say there will be charges uh and then we'll

00:23:16.620 see what the courts make of what has happened here but if we first of all have this ridiculous uh

00:23:23.580 breach and then on top of that somebody gets put in jail for a year for a year and ends up with a 0.98

00:23:30.340 hundred thousand dollar fine which is what the legislation provides for it's going to be a black

00:23:35.560 mark for the whole well by the time they actually would go to a court i imagine that would be well

00:23:40.400 after a referendum actually takes place maybe derek but then after the referendum takes place

00:23:45.520 if i shot you right now i'm still not in court for a year no no no but don't don't forget the

00:23:51.220 rcmp is leading the investigation yeah and if they wanted to lay charges say october 1st yes they

00:23:57.600 will do that so i would not be surprised to see charges but there's no way you would have a

00:24:01.680 completed trial in that time nothing in the canadian justice system because it's anywhere

00:24:06.900 cold yeah so it would muddy the water it would muddy the water and they'd say hey these guys

00:24:12.380 are being charged and that's what they want to do yeah so you don't even need the the court

00:24:16.600 the court case completed in this.

00:24:19.800 One guy

00:24:20.720 grinning like a treasured cat right now

00:24:22.740 is Jason Kenney.

00:24:25.160 You know, some

00:24:26.620 will recall David Parker

00:24:28.040 was an organizer in the move

00:24:30.660 ousting Jason Kenney from the leadership

00:24:32.660 of the UCP and therefore as Premier.

00:24:34.740 So obviously there's some hurt feelings

00:24:36.680 I think there. It's probably

00:24:38.400 a fair assumption to make. And I guess

00:24:40.840 someone

00:24:42.720 joined one of

00:24:44.700 these Centurion group

00:24:46.140 Zoom call,

00:24:48.140 one of these video calls, and they were

00:24:50.200 explaining different things and they were going through the database

00:24:52.360 and it's alleged

00:24:54.240 that they pulled up

00:24:56.120 an example of how you can search for a voter's

00:24:58.180 information. They pulled up Jason Kenney's information

00:25:00.140 and it was displayed on the screen there.

00:25:03.300 Jason Kenney is

00:25:04.300 lawyering up to

00:25:06.640 I guess file a civil

00:25:08.420 suit against Parker and the Centurion

00:25:10.540 group for breaching

00:25:12.280 his data. In this particular

00:25:14.640 case i think it's a bit rich uh considering jason kenney is responsible for the single

00:25:19.740 biggest data breach in alberta's history by requiring people to disclose their personal

00:25:23.780 medical information i don't care if he was a murderer it still doesn't justify breaching

00:25:27.980 you are comparing apples and oranges yorick and you are so wrong no what i'm saying is it's wrong

00:25:35.920 what i'm saying it's rich for jason kenny to be complaining about a data breach because he's

00:25:40.580 impose data breaches on every single person in Alberta. It still doesn't make them accessing

00:25:45.300 his personal information right, and he's probably going to have a pretty reasonable case, a fairly

00:25:52.160 decent case to make in a civil claims court here, because his data was breached. What I'm saying is

00:25:58.400 it's a bit rich for him after he expects people, required people by law, to give out their personal

00:26:04.180 medical information when they go to a restaurant to buy a cup of coffee don't buy it sorry it's

00:26:11.780 just when you don't know i'm i i i don't like the comparison you know jason kenny was not putting

00:26:21.220 people's home addresses up for other people to see other people to search through right there's

00:26:27.300 dangerous lunatics out there who now know where uh jason kenny lives and uh you know i wouldn't be

00:26:34.300 surprised to see a police car parked out there for a while well i mean kenny put that out and again 0.73

00:26:38.580 whether you like it or don't you've really armed him he's a political master they're getting around

00:26:44.380 that and there goes art paulowski with a good dose of crazy jumping in there yeah and putting

00:26:49.680 a thing up saying jason kenny's gonna burn in hell and a whole bunch of stuff and everything else and 0.97

00:26:53.320 And he quote tweeted him and said, this is the kind of lunatic my dad had just got exposed to. 0.91

00:26:58.340 And so what's happened is people have handed Kenny a cudgel to beat this with because he's not wrong there.

00:27:07.080 He's not wrong.

00:27:08.080 This kind of thing is dangerous.

00:27:10.020 I don't, there's a lot of, I get death threats, not irregularly.

00:27:13.920 I think you get them too.

00:27:15.580 And I don't want these people knowing where I live.

00:27:18.720 People shouldn't know where he lives.

00:27:20.260 And they've handed him a political cudgel.

00:27:22.120 The problem is when some of the conversation, though, I guess what Dave and I are kind of chipping to, when people say, though, well, what was wrong?

00:27:27.540 What was done to Kenny was wrong, but, well, there doesn't need to be a but in this conversation, right?

00:27:31.380 No, I agree.

00:27:31.920 That's just kind of almost trying to undersell the problem.

00:27:35.720 Not just Jason Kenney's, that it was leaked.

00:27:37.680 Oh, yeah.

00:27:38.140 Yours, mine, Dave, Nigel's, everyone watching here who lives in Alberta.

00:27:41.800 Some of the maps who send us threats might have been logged into Centurion and found our home addresses, and it's a real concern.

00:27:47.320 And the other thing, if it hands Jason Kenney a cudgel, it also hands him a loudspeaker.

00:27:52.640 He's going off to Ryerson University to, what do they call it now, Toronto Metropolitan,

00:27:57.680 a big event there about disinformation.

00:28:02.460 This isn't disinformation, but he can certainly talk about it there to a national audience.

00:28:07.860 You know, we've got people in Alberta, this is the kind of thing they do.

00:28:11.660 And he will make himself a national hero.

00:28:16.200 I suspect that that might, I mean, he couldn't have orchestrated this, but he's certainly going to use it, in my opinion, to Mr. Kenney, would like to return to politics.

00:28:26.100 And if he does so, it's going to have to be elsewhere than in Alberta.

00:28:30.460 And so in the national stage, this just fits the plot.

00:28:35.100 It was a good day for him.

00:28:36.840 Yeah, I'm sure he's perhaps a bit nerve-wracked.

00:28:39.680 I mean, you still wonder about who may show up or whatnot, but he recognizes a political gift when it was handed to him.

00:28:43.860 and you can't blame him for taking advantage of course he's going to take it and people with the

00:28:47.460 independence movement are getting upset with me calling this out and everything but most of what

00:28:50.660 i'm at least telling them guys don't give your opponents ammunition i mean you gave kenny a

00:28:56.900 nuclear bomb i mean i know the average independent supporter did not do that this was the actions of a

00:29:02.900 small group but when you try to look like you're defending the actions of that small group you're

00:29:07.860 only helping him so yeah i think part of the problem or the one of the overall problems 0.97

00:29:14.500 is this is the independence is still a group lacking a leader right and you've got this clown

00:29:20.020 show as as nigel aptly described it operating on on the sidelines but they're all part of the

00:29:25.380 movement right somebody has to step forward and say enough david parker cam davies you're out we

00:29:33.540 We want nothing to do with you.

00:29:35.400 Anything you say from now on is not associated with the independence movement.

00:29:40.400 You know, but who's going to do that?

00:29:42.920 I'm not sure anyone has the moral authority to it.

00:29:45.420 The closest might be Mitch Sylvester at this time,

00:29:47.440 just as the most dominant figure of the largest group that represents it.

00:29:51.360 But then that group itself has multiple people who kind of speak publicly for it,

00:29:55.380 and they're giving different messages.

00:29:56.720 Yeah.

00:29:57.140 So that makes it difficult as well.

00:29:59.480 I mean, if somebody is going to take that role,

00:30:01.560 i i've said it kind of on my show mitch because i think for the most part you've done great you've

00:30:06.520 been respectable and good and haven't said anything crazy but you got to kind of lay down the law and

00:30:09.960 say you know what i'm now the one who speaks for this group i'm the one who goes to cbc as opposed

00:30:14.360 to somebody else who recently did i'm the one who does the large media quotes because is that that

00:30:18.600 corpulent guy you were talking about yes you know good luck yeah i know he's hurting cats and uh

00:30:25.880 The same kids who heard it, Mr. Kenny, out of office.

00:30:29.500 But it was the same to Daniel if they had the chance.

00:30:31.840 But if they want to try and mitigate things, because we've got five and a half months to go,

00:30:34.900 and there's going to be more issues.

00:30:36.120 Hopefully nothing as big as this, but there's going to be more.

00:30:38.620 Somebody has to, as I put online, too, if you don't take control of the messaging, your opponents will.

00:30:44.540 And the other side is going to be more or less united.

00:30:47.380 I think what's shaping up is you're going to have, broadly speaking, maybe even it's one organization,

00:30:53.720 But you're going to have two main spokesmen or two and a half spokesmen on the Federalist side.

00:30:59.220 You're going to have Jason Kenney, who's trying to appeal to conservatives who are flirting with the idea, soft, you know, soft, sovereignists, as he would call them, or separatist curious, whatever term you want to use.

00:31:10.720 People who are not happy with the status quo, but are not on the left.

00:31:16.720 And then you're going to have Nenshi slash Thomas Lukasik or something speaking to the left to try and, you know, they're pretty united on their side, but trying to at least pump up their numbers, get them out to vote in big numbers.

00:31:28.980 So the other, the Federalist side is going to be pretty united because they have definitely two different messages because they're appealing to people who do not vote the same way in elections.

00:31:38.980 The independent side, pro-independent side is more politically homogenous. It's almost entirely of the right in some form or another.

00:31:46.720 Uh, but I don't know, there's probably two dozen people who, uh, either lay claim or

00:31:52.820 would like to lay claim to the leadership and it's a mess.

00:31:57.480 So we'll see what happens.

00:31:58.880 I, I, we'll see how it evolves.

00:32:00.460 Part of the problem too, is this is uncharted.

00:32:02.020 This is unprecedented.

00:32:02.800 We haven't had an organic kind of decentralized movement like this, do something like this

00:32:08.260 before.

00:32:08.800 So where do you find the rule book on how to pull it together?

00:32:11.280 Now that you're getting into a campaign mode for a referendum, there's an area, actually,

00:32:14.720 I don't have an answer for loudmouth that I am.

00:32:16.920 Normally, you think you maybe point to Quebec, which is at two referendums.

00:32:21.700 But there, it's different.

00:32:22.520 They were not citizens' initiative referendums.

00:32:24.740 You had an independence or sovereignty party, whatever you want to call it, you know, the PQ.

00:32:30.080 And then you had a federalist party in the liberals.

00:32:32.860 And so it was clear, okay, the premier of the governing party that called the election is the head of the yes side.

00:32:38.740 And the leader of the opposition, the liberal party in Quebec's case, is the head of the no side.

00:32:44.000 And it's set.

00:32:45.160 Now, in 95, they kind of swapped in Lucien Bouchard,

00:32:48.340 the leader of the bloc, to come in.

00:32:51.340 But he was not still technically the leader of the SA.

00:32:53.740 He was made chief negotiator.

00:32:55.040 So head spokesman, essentially.

00:32:56.940 We don't have that clear model here

00:32:59.020 because this is citizens' initiative.

00:33:02.140 See what happens.

00:33:03.200 I don't know.

00:33:04.180 Normally, it would be the premier.

00:33:06.980 But this is just totally different.

00:33:10.780 Okay.

00:33:11.040 let's talk to something a bit more cheerful

00:33:14.200 our new governor general

00:33:16.360 Dave I know you're

00:33:18.280 a proud monarchist

00:33:19.660 Louis Arbour

00:33:22.540 selected

00:33:27.420 she couldn't 0.98

00:33:32.280 be worse I guess than some 0.55

00:33:34.220 of the other more recent ones 1.00

00:33:36.040 she's a bleat probably 1.00

00:33:37.580 at least a bit smarter actually Julie Payette 0.71

00:33:40.200 It was not unsmart.

00:33:41.020 It was an astronaut.

00:33:41.740 They don't make dummies astronauts.

00:33:43.620 But anyway, I guess your thoughts on who's representing the crown.

00:33:51.920 Well, it was a strange choice.

00:33:54.400 I mean, you cannot can't argue with her credentials.

00:33:56.660 She's had a long and stellar career.

00:34:00.440 She is the oldest governor general appointee.

00:34:04.640 She's 79 years old.

00:34:06.400 And as Governor General, she also leads the Canadian Armed Forces in a symbolic role.

00:34:14.040 If you take a look, take a bit of a deeper dive into her career, she's said a lot of stuff that should be concerning to us all. 0.93

00:34:22.420 She has spoken out on migration and is all for mass migration into the country.

00:34:32.260 She's spoken out against the military, which she now supposedly has. 0.96

00:34:37.740 Says the armed forces are just a bunch of white guys who like to shoot off guns. 1.00

00:34:42.620 I agree with her. 1.00

00:34:43.640 I just think that's a good thing.

00:34:44.880 Yes, yes.

00:34:46.000 I just didn't know what the majority of them.

00:34:47.100 And the Jewish groups aren't happy because she's made a lot of anti-Israeli comments.

00:34:54.020 So, I mean, that's just in a small dive in 24 hours.

00:34:57.980 So there's lots of stuff to be concerned about.

00:35:02.620 But hey, she does speak French, and isn't that all that matters?

00:35:07.320 Yeah, I don't think it is. 0.85

00:35:09.040 You know, I did a little bit of looking up as well.

00:35:12.720 I mean, she is the governor general.

00:35:14.660 She is not governing, but she is advising.

00:35:17.920 When you look at some of the positions that she's taking,

00:35:20.300 you know, this is not a person who should be advising

00:35:23.340 the prime minister of Canada.

00:35:25.600 I mean, it's just a couple, just to amuse you.

00:35:29.800 Back around the turn of the century, there was a right to welfare case in Quebec, the Gosselaire case.

00:35:35.240 It got turned down.

00:35:36.260 There was no right to welfare.

00:35:38.680 But she was one of the minority who thought that there was a right to welfare.

00:35:45.220 You know, you mentioned the refugees. 1.00

00:35:49.460 This one might cheer you up a little bit. 0.74

00:35:51.400 She participated in a monk debate.

00:35:53.360 Monk is a monk.

00:35:55.600 Anyway, this was back in 2016 concerning what was being called a global refugee crisis at

00:36:01.980 the time.

00:36:02.980 You know, you remember people getting washed up on the Mediterranean Islands. 1.00

00:36:05.700 So it was a valid thing. 1.00

00:36:07.480 And she said then that Western nations have a moral imperative to accept a large influx

00:36:13.460 of refugees. 1.00

00:36:14.460 Well, we ended up we did anyway.

00:36:16.180 But in this debate, she began the evening with 77% of those in the room in favor of

00:36:23.760 her liberalist position, and she went up against Mark Stein and Nigel Farage, and at the end

00:36:31.260 of the night, only 22% of the audience were still with her.

00:36:34.940 So maybe there's a little hope that she-

00:36:36.660 She began with 77 and ended with 22.

00:36:38.660 That's right.

00:36:39.660 Well, I'm not sure we should be too worried about her convincing anyone of anything then

00:36:43.380 as Governor General.

00:36:44.380 Well, you see, Mr. Carney, I expect to be one of the 22%, so he does get, he carries

00:36:51.760 but the whole thing

00:36:53.760 with the International Criminal Court, I could go on

00:36:55.780 like, I've got about a dozen things on my rap sheet

00:36:57.780 here. None of it would be like, so

00:36:59.600 bad choice.

00:37:01.620 I will say when it comes to

00:37:03.700 the Governor-General, there's not 1.00

00:37:05.720 a lot of jobs I think you probably should speak French

00:37:07.620 or at least need to speak French for

00:37:09.600 like the Supreme Court. No, because

00:37:11.640 otherwise it disqualifies

00:37:13.620 Westerners, even

00:37:15.140 most Ontarians. The Governor-General is

00:37:17.720 a ceremonial role

00:37:19.060 and that includes in Quebec

00:37:21.020 you know

00:37:22.040 so I'm okay

00:37:24.580 French probably should be something

00:37:26.720 for the Governor General but also

00:37:29.000 one of the arguments

00:37:30.300 against it was if you require that they speak

00:37:32.980 English and French that does

00:37:35.280 virtually disqualify

00:37:37.400 nearly all indigenous

00:37:39.080 Canadians because they might speak

00:37:40.700 you know I don't know how many people

00:37:42.920 growing up on Siksika Reserve are going to

00:37:45.100 be learning French

00:37:46.600 didn't disqualify Mary Simon

00:37:48.440 exactly and she got 1.00

00:37:50.920 a ton of black people, which is why

00:37:53.260 it's such a big deal now.

00:37:55.160 So it's like, okay, if we're required, they speak French

00:37:56.980 and English. I would

00:37:59.080 chance to guess that that would

00:38:01.100 probably put future Indigenous candidates

00:38:03.140 for the

00:38:05.140 job of Governor General.

00:38:07.600 I'm just going to guess and say it's

00:38:09.100 less than 1% of

00:38:10.940 Indigenous people would be even eligible for it.

00:38:15.000 I don't know.

00:38:16.960 What I was blown away by, though, was

00:38:18.920 the, and I shouldn't be, I've got to stop

00:38:20.800 picking up charlie brown's football here but was the virtually unanimous and an unqualified

00:38:28.320 endorsement of uh louis arbour by the legacy media uh i'm maybe we'll pull up some pieces

00:38:35.320 from this colton mill article here but uh paraphrasing it said she is essentially perfect

00:38:40.420 there's nothing wrong this is it uh it oh my god the fire alarm no the emergency

00:38:48.840 and that bypasses mute buttons i'm afraid it's just a test they announced that was coming a while ago

00:38:59.560 i shouldn't do that okay so everybody out there yes where's our fire warden

00:39:04.760 come on in the studio bring in that western standard fire warden

00:39:08.280 bring him in boy he was on the ball yeah so ladies and gentlemen uh i want to introduce

00:39:13.800 the dwight shrewd of the western standards calgary office come on over here uh this is the

00:39:21.400 western city's new fire office fire warden uh josh andrus part-time he is the uh well you failed

00:39:29.960 you look look how long it took you to get here he's outfitted uh like safe and official to me

00:39:35.560 i would follow him down a fire escape and then maybe strangle him but

00:39:38.920 Well, I'll make jokes about that, Corey. 0.95

00:39:43.340 You're going to fly.

00:39:44.520 Yes.

00:39:45.140 Yeah.

00:39:48.520 Wow.

00:39:50.400 Well, this makes for a good show today.

00:39:52.060 We'll see if we're all ready. 0.95

00:39:53.080 We're calling other people clowns. 0.81

00:39:55.040 Yeah, we're accusing everyone else of being, you know, circus. 0.88

00:39:59.020 Well, there we are.

00:39:59.860 Very honestly, folks, that was not rehearsed.

00:40:01.880 We didn't use work.

00:40:04.680 All right.

00:40:06.540 Okay, anyway, just the gold mail saying,

00:40:08.460 uh in particular they highlighted uh how great and supportive she is of the military unless it's

00:40:15.900 white guys with guns which i don't know made up uh you know there would have been

00:40:23.100 some non i guess white people it would have definitely certainly been indigenous canadians

00:40:27.580 but like not overwhelmingly all our veterans who fought in both world wars and in korea uh i i

00:40:34.780 guess they're just not up it's not for her i don't know uh but for them to even highlight

00:40:38.540 how great and supportive she is of the military with you know with those kinds of comments um

00:40:47.740 it's like the global mail's endorsement of her was written in the prime minister's office it

00:40:53.980 was just so over the top no one's perfect for a job i'm perfect for governor general

00:40:59.180 and they would never find anything on me but uh i i don't know it was just over the top

00:41:04.460 And it wasn't just them. The CBC coverage was over the top, too.

00:41:08.200 It went on for hours, and now we're sitting in your office.

00:41:11.520 There was nothing on. It was wall-to-wall all day.

00:41:14.480 I haven't seen wall-to-wall coverage like that since 9-11.

00:41:19.760 I know. It was crazy.

00:41:21.420 Last best governor general Canada's had, David Johnson.

00:41:25.080 And unfortunately, he soured it later, after the fact, by associating with the prime minister farther down.

00:41:31.160 He did mock that up a bit. But in his time as governor general.

00:41:33.600 That was Governor General.

00:41:34.280 Oh yeah, he was fine there.

00:41:35.680 And because of part of what he did, like I just said,

00:41:37.620 correctly, I had a guest on recently,

00:41:39.560 and his name escapes me, as embarrassing as it is.

00:41:41.140 He wrote a book though on Governors General.

00:41:42.740 If you look it up, it was a good book.

00:41:44.220 He was a man who met most of them, very avowed monarchists,

00:41:47.400 which I'm not, but he talked about the role of it.

00:41:49.760 And he ripped into Payette and ripped into how she was selected as others

00:41:54.280 by a prime minister who wasn't terribly bright.

00:41:56.940 And we paid the consequences for that.

00:41:59.160 It really is a role where if you just stick to the ceremonial role,

00:42:02.720 be dignified don't get in the middle of messes cut the ribbons hand out the awards you can get

00:42:08.940 through it and have respectability within the job so all i'm saying is let's just hope the next one

00:42:14.400 does no damage and uh sits from there cut cut back a bit on your in-flight food yes and you know

00:42:20.760 things will go well all right we're gonna put a plug we're a little short on time because uh

00:42:25.740 the fire that broke out in the in our office here uh so let's put a plug in there go to our

00:42:30.960 parting shots, I am going to break tradition

00:42:33.120 and take the first parting shot, because I think it

00:42:35.000 flows well. Because Corey said,

00:42:36.840 you're not a monarchist,

00:42:39.060 and you support Alberta independence.

00:42:41.540 It's kind of assumed that Alberta,

00:42:43.180 if it's independent, would be a republic.

00:42:45.480 I just want to put out maybe a little food for

00:42:47.020 thought of an alternative. It would be

00:42:48.920 easier to maintain our constitutional structure

00:42:51.360 moving to

00:42:53.260 independence. If we kept in place our

00:42:54.940 constitutional structure, which meant an independent

00:42:57.220 Alberta could remain a

00:42:58.940 constitutional monarchy. And it could

00:43:01.140 remain with the House of

00:43:03.160 Windsor. I'm just throwing it

00:43:05.180 out there. If we want to do our own thing,

00:43:06.580 we could bring back any old royal house

00:43:09.220 of, I don't know,

00:43:12.120 Hohenzollern.

00:43:14.180 I'm a little partial to the Hohenzollerns, but I don't know

00:43:17.020 what Vlad the Impaler's family

00:43:19.120 was. Are they still...

00:43:20.640 I don't know.

00:43:22.800 But, you know, Vlad the Impaler...

00:43:23.880 Let's find some cool...

00:43:26.800 Oh, Napoleon.

00:43:28.120 I just re-watched Napoleon with Joaquin Phoenix last night

00:43:30.960 and you know it hit him on St. Helene

00:43:32.980 at the end it just

00:43:33.620 I'm not a Frenchman but it makes you

00:43:36.960 hugs in your heart like ugh

00:43:38.480 205 years ago today he died

00:43:40.760 205 years

00:43:43.160 ago today he died

00:43:44.640 it's fate for bringing back the house

00:43:46.960 of Napoleon, Alberta

00:43:48.340 not an empire, not a commonwealth

00:43:51.120 not a kingdom

00:43:52.680 not a republic

00:43:54.340 not a commonwealth, the empire of Alberta

00:43:57.040 This is if the independence movement wasn't enough to...

00:44:00.040 If we didn't make it crazy enough. Here we go.

00:44:02.040 Napoleon for emperor of Alberta.

00:44:04.040 So you're going to learn French and go for the job of governor general, are you?

00:44:08.040 Alberta?

00:44:09.040 Here we go.

00:44:10.040 I don't know, Derek. Listen, you're too young.

00:44:12.040 I just was looking it up while you were talking there,

00:44:14.040 that you realize that no less than five of the last governors general are still alive. 0.99

00:44:23.040 Like, this is crazy, having five ex-kings, ex-queens floating around. 0.99

00:44:27.760 That's why we should just have our own monarch. 1.00

00:44:29.500 And they all get $200,000 a year on expenses.

00:44:32.760 Sermon, it's expensive.

00:44:34.320 Julie, I mean, for people who don't believe me, just Mary Simon, Julie Payette, David Johnson, Michaela Jean, Adrian Clarkson.

00:44:41.760 So, you know.

00:44:44.100 Romeo and LeBlanc is not there?

00:44:45.820 Died a few years ago.

00:44:47.280 Yeah. One of the things about, and I don't mean this unkindly, but I'm sure it was in the back of somebody's mind. She is already 79. There won't be one more in all likelihood, or if there is, there won't be for very long.

00:45:04.720 What's that? One, two, three, four, five.

00:45:06.960 All right. We're short on time because of the fire alarm. Corey.

00:45:12.520 i'll just be quick the major projects office to fast track projects is almost a year old now

00:45:17.320 hasn't approved a single one i think we can call it a failure

00:45:20.100 uh honda sounds like they're pulling out of a 15 billion dollar plant down in uh

00:45:27.720 ontario uh just wonder how much the liberals have sunk of taxpayers money into the whole

00:45:33.640 fail failing ev industry it's got to be tens and tens of billions of dollars don't let doug ford

00:45:40.140 off the hook for this stuff too he has been all over it he's been all over i don't know i could

00:45:44.340 have i would have never predicted that canadians don't want to drive electric vehicles in uh one

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