Western Standard - THE PIPELINE： All Madness on the Western Front

00:00:00.000 Good day and welcome. I'm Derek Phil LeBrant, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're

00:00:28.240 watching the pipeline today's may 27th 2026 i've got most of the usual crowd here uh we've got

00:00:36.500 uh what should said a news editor dave naylor good day senior alberta columnist cory morgan

00:00:41.640 and filling in haphazardly for nigel hannaford is one of our reporters here uh dave veitsch nick

00:00:50.220 hey everybody or dent dent you got the night you got that name at the morning newsroom meeting here

00:00:56.280 That could be a parting shot

00:00:58.480 That could be your parting shot

00:01:00.180 You could tell them about Dent

00:01:00.960 I guess we could

00:01:01.860 Okay there you go

00:01:04.180 Alright

00:01:04.960 Today is all Alberta all the time

00:01:08.900 All madness on the western front

00:01:11.760 It's all about independence

00:01:14.300 And followed around it

00:01:16.760 You know

00:01:18.340 Mark Carney saying

00:01:19.980 50% plus 1 is not a clear majority

00:01:22.220 For independence

00:01:24.160 creating waves

00:01:26.080 even in Quebec. This is all coming

00:01:27.960 from a question from one of our reporters in Ottawa.

00:01:32.360 Smith's leadership.

00:01:33.740 Alberta Premier Daniel Smith's leadership

00:01:35.720 now on the line as

00:01:37.880 a lot of people in the independence camp are

00:01:39.920 unhappy with the

00:01:42.000 wording of this referendum to have

00:01:43.960 a referendum business.

00:01:45.580 But what we're going to start with

00:01:48.060 no, we'll go through that later. 0.87

00:01:50.840 But Wob Canoe

00:01:51.540 I like our headline on this. Wob

00:01:54.000 rocks the canoe hey hey well you can't see cory morgan face plumbing here uh come on i'm getting

00:02:01.180 that face palm again there hey oh it loses the authenticity yeah glob rocks the canoe come on

00:02:08.400 terrible that's a that's a good one that's a good one i think i'm all tanned i've been working in

00:02:15.520 sent for a few days i think i uh yeah okay um so we're gonna start um dave our uh our parliament

00:02:25.520 hill reporter uh wally tam tam uh asked mark carney a question uh on parliament hill i think

00:02:33.440 just yesterday um you know because there's a lot of question around uh the clarity act you know a

00:02:40.440 clear majority to a clear question you know we've all heard that a million times before it's no

00:02:44.720 longer a clear question and there's some debate around why that is now uh the smith government

00:02:50.540 says well it's these silly injunctions requiring that indigenous consultation has to happen before

00:02:56.760 you even ask the question which seems absurd and they're saying well we just don't want yet another

00:03:01.360 injunction we want a question on the ballot people want this question answered uh no one more than

00:03:06.640 thomas lukasik um and so we're going with this because this kind of preempts that kind of

00:03:12.920 injunction. Others are saying that, no, that only those injunctions only applied to citizens

00:03:17.760 initiative referended, not to government ones. It's kind of a legal argument at this point.

00:03:23.200 You can get into that maybe a bit, but either way, it's not a clear question now.

00:03:29.660 Traditionally, I always thought a clear majority was more than half, 50% plus one.

00:03:36.700 It's extremely rare in Canada that a politician is, at least a provincial or federal government,

00:03:42.080 has ever been elected with 50%

00:03:44.080 plus one of the vote. It's happened, but it's

00:03:45.940 extremely, extremely rare.

00:03:48.940 So our

00:03:49.980 reporter at Parliament Hill

00:03:50.980 puts the question to Mark Carney, and Mark Carney's

00:03:54.000 answers might surprise some people,

00:03:56.080 including Quebec. Yeah, what

00:03:58.020 a delightful name, eh? Tam Tam.

00:04:00.200 It sounds like Tim Tam. 0.99

00:04:02.360 Tim Tam's an Australian

00:04:03.780 biscuit. 1.00

00:04:06.180 So Waleed

00:04:07.260 talked to the Prime Minister in his scrum

00:04:09.800 and asked him, you know, what

00:04:11.840 does what

00:04:13.780 precludes a majority? What does a majority

00:04:16.360 mean? And Carney responded

00:04:18.360 that it is not 50%

00:04:20.640 plus one. And then

00:04:22.480 gave a word salad

00:04:23.880 answer to why he thinks

00:04:26.220 adding, you know, number of people that didn't

00:04:28.380 vote, all that sort of stuff.

00:04:30.860 So, well, unlike you, Derek, I always

00:04:32.520 thought majority wins.

00:04:35.500 But, you know,

00:04:36.680 is 50% 0.97

00:04:38.520 plus one enough to

00:04:39.840 to

00:04:41.840 separate a province, whether it be Quebec or Alberta, it would seem to me, I don't know.

00:04:50.040 I would think for it, you would need a stronger vote to be able to move forward with independence than just 50% plus one.

00:05:00.220 Well, I get the principle of that.

00:05:03.360 The problem is, it then becomes anything other than 50% plus one, it then becomes arbitrary.

00:05:09.560 Is it 50% plus 1% plus 2% plus another 30?

00:05:16.140 Do you need 33%?

00:05:17.220 Like, at what point is it?

00:05:19.000 This is the problem.

00:05:20.540 It then becomes arbitrary.

00:05:22.160 What then is a clear majority if it's not 50% plus 1%?

00:05:26.620 Funny enough, he at the Liberal Party argued that that Quebec by-election was separated by a single vote.

00:05:32.940 They argued that that single vote was enough.

00:05:36.880 And in that case, it certainly was not because there was all sorts of problems with the balloting so that there was no actual margin there.

00:05:43.760 I would agree that if the literal difference was a single vote, and, you know, there's always a little bit of discrepancy.

00:05:51.000 You have to have some margin of error for discrepancy in elections.

00:05:54.020 You know, some people voted who shouldn't have voted.

00:05:56.500 Some people were sent to the wrong balloting station.

00:05:59.320 I agree you have to have a little margin of error, so not a single vote, but more or less the principle.

00:06:04.600 It's got to be 50% plus one.

00:06:07.140 Corey, it also raises the interesting question, because this is not a simple yes-no referendum,

00:06:12.480 like should Alberta become independent?

00:06:14.780 It is, it's more of an A-B question.

00:06:17.180 It's not yes-no, it's A-B.

00:06:18.480 It's should Alberta remain a province of Canada, or should Alberta begin the consultation process

00:06:25.740 towards a binding referendum and independence, so more or less.

00:06:29.300 So that raises the question then, if 50% plus one is not a clear majority,

00:06:32.980 but it's not a yes or no question what if the federalists don't get a clear majority what if

00:06:38.680 it's 50 plus one to stay in canada what's good for the goose is good for the gander well pretty

00:06:45.820 much i mean it's it's hard to define this whole thing i mean the bottom line is though i gotta

00:06:51.540 admit the ones trying to change the status quo should perhaps have a bit if there's going to

00:06:56.220 be a different bar uh erring on the side of that if it literally was an election of 50 only one

00:07:01.520 And then maybe you're going to err towards what was there.

00:07:04.020 But what I find interesting is how quickly they forgot.

00:07:06.280 Because there was an exchange in the House of Commons only on May 8th with a parliamentary secretary for whatever.

00:07:12.860 Carney wasn't in.

00:07:14.120 And the bloc kept pushing.

00:07:16.120 And she responded twice, outright saying 50% plus one is the bar.

00:07:21.260 Then it was that bloc member kept pushing that to get a distinctive answer.

00:07:25.620 And both times literally outright said 50% plus one.

00:07:28.200 So Carney is in conflict with his own parliamentary secretary on this one.

00:07:33.480 And that's the thing to remember is the bloc pushing all this, not Paulie because he's a federalist.

00:07:39.540 But if you guys are saying that, you understand that you're telling Quebec that that's where the bar is going to be too.

00:07:44.440 And they're not going to take that very well or lightly.

00:07:47.640 So there's much more to this than just these things that Carney's putting out.

00:07:52.760 He'd better watch the line he's walking.

00:07:54.740 They're not afraid of Alberta, but you can certainly inspire a province that's on the brink of electing a pretty Quebec law government to, you know, elect them with a stronger mandate.

00:08:04.360 It just adds to the confusion of the whole thing, right?

00:08:07.640 We've got a confusing question.

00:08:09.720 We really don't know what it means.

00:08:11.860 And then now we don't know what a victory would mean.

00:08:14.860 As Derek said, is it 56%?

00:08:17.440 Is it 52%?

00:08:19.100 It's just all adding to the confusion. 1.00

00:08:21.300 And the question is garbage. 0.97

00:08:22.740 I mean, it's not carried all the mush. 0.97

00:08:24.440 Well, we'll get a little further in the muckiness of the question in a moment, but I want to talk about the bloc.

00:08:31.460 This is one of these times where I'm really jealous of Quebecers, and we do this to ourselves.

00:08:36.540 I mean, the Conservatives, you know, are the super dominant party in Alberta because they tend to represent, they're at least the least hostile to Western aspirations.

00:08:47.520 Actually, Conservative MPs are obviously pro-Alberta, but they're shackled by the national organization of the party from truly representing Alberta in many ways because they're trying to win votes in Quebec, in Ontario, in the BC Lower Mainland, in the Atlantic.

00:09:02.860 you know that's why you're you will never see a conservative MP stand up and say why

00:09:07.340 do we have twice the population of all four Atlantic provinces but uh but half the senators

00:09:12.660 of just uh Nova Scotia you would never see that because then you're gonna get in trouble

00:09:17.860 and lose uh voters in Nova Scotia so that's the kind of one of the advantages the bloc has

00:09:23.440 but there was uh I don't know her name but some bloc lady uh MP was going on about this

00:09:29.520 the Clarity Act

00:09:31.800 is controversial in Quebec

00:09:33.900 and always has been

00:09:35.380 for a few reasons

00:09:38.320 I think there's probably

00:09:40.060 pretty broad agreement that we should

00:09:42.140 have a clear majority, although

00:09:43.260 again, we don't necessarily agree what is clear majority

00:09:45.740 but more or less agreement on the principle

00:09:47.920 of a clear majority and a clear question

00:09:50.240 Quebecers are

00:09:51.260 they're actually not sure about

00:09:54.060 that because they've had two unclear questions

00:09:56.060 the 1981 was really unclear

00:09:57.860 Again, we'll talk about that, the two-stage referendum thing.

00:10:01.280 But then after, it's like, yeah, then you need the unanimous consent of all the other provinces and everything.

00:10:06.200 But the Bloc MP was going on about how this is a matter for people in that province to decide.

00:10:12.760 The government of that province decides the question, and the people decide the answer,

00:10:16.420 and it's not for Ottawa to then decide if it was legitimate or not.

00:10:20.460 And the Bloc has been hammering on about that hard.

00:10:23.520 So this is making huge waves in Quebec right now.

00:10:27.860 I don't know, maybe you

00:10:29.940 we have

00:10:32.180 two Daves, so you're Dent

00:10:33.440 that's why you got the name, because we already have two Daves

00:10:36.140 but maybe you can go on

00:10:38.140 about the role that the Bloc is playing

00:10:40.160 in this, oddly enough

00:10:41.680 kind of being the only

00:10:44.100 ones in the House of Commons standing up for

00:10:46.040 at least the right of Albert instead of Syphus

00:10:48.000 Well, yeah, I think

00:10:50.040 it is kind of odd, but I mean

00:10:51.700 this is what the Parti Quebecois leader

00:10:53.960 just came out and said that

00:10:54.860 you know, um, Kearney's, uh, comments about the whole 50 plus one were out of line.

00:10:59.540 And basically it was just saying that, um, Daniel Smith was just doing her job as premier

00:11:02.960 for putting that on the October ballot.

00:11:04.880 But I really don't know when we talk about a clear majority or like what the question

00:11:09.760 even is in terms of like the history of the Quebec referendums and this one, like they

00:11:13.180 go on about the clarity act and what have you.

00:11:14.860 But I mean, it seems to me just odd in general, how we couldn't just put a question on Quebec

00:11:20.280 referendum or an Alberta referendum that basically just says, would you like Alberta to stay

00:11:24.280 part of canada yes no how difficult is that really basically well no well that question i think

00:11:30.520 still would accomplish even less because that's just saying i'd like to break up with you that's

00:11:35.800 not saying i'm going to break up with you or we are breaking up that's just saying i i don't i'm

00:11:40.680 not happy with our relationship yeah so there's no point there's no point in that i think it's

00:11:45.720 there's a point in having an a b question i like the idea of a b rather than yes no

00:11:50.200 i guess but i mean it's kind of but yes but what you do is you'd phrase it as should alberta remain

00:11:53.660 a part of canada province of canada or should it become an independent country not should we then

00:11:58.500 begin the process of it yeah so uh so we'll get into this question so you know as i said

00:12:05.420 um the smith government is arguing that hey look this will just get another injunction against it

00:12:10.600 because we haven't done this bullshit pre-consultation stuff uh and we don't want yet

00:12:16.380 another injunction so that's why we're going 0.89

00:12:18.420 this weird route

00:12:19.200 and then

00:12:21.720 it's the other side saying

00:12:24.240 no no those court rulings were only applying

00:12:26.420 to Citizens Initiative they were not applying to a

00:12:28.280 government sponsored referendum question

00:12:30.380 you know I don't know

00:12:32.500 I've seen pretty compelling

00:12:34.500 but mutually contradictory

00:12:36.160 information on both sides

00:12:37.320 I don't know Corey

00:12:39.600 maybe you've got something to add to that

00:12:41.680 I mean well the way I would put it is

00:12:44.140 I think the judge's decision is wrong and I don't think

00:12:46.340 consultation should apply to these questions, whether it's petitioned or set by the premier.

00:12:51.160 But I think when you see precedent in a court saying that principle needs to be applied to

00:12:55.440 the petitioning, I don't see how another judge would come around and say it's become any different

00:12:59.280 because the government has put the question forth. They're going to apply the same bloody thing and

00:13:03.980 say, now it's been set, we need some sort of bar of consultation. And until they feel satisfied,

00:13:09.520 they've seen a process or something, they'll throw another injunction on it. So I'm inclined

00:13:13.480 to believe the premier here i in that i think it's an undemocratic wrong decision but we're

00:13:18.520 going to be stuck with these undemocratic wrong decisions until either it finishes a full appeal

00:13:23.240 or some sort of who's going to take the new question to court

00:13:28.440 well the court first nations yeah possibly probably yeah and what and what happens if they

00:13:35.640 yeah so the another judge shuts down this question and does that kill the referendum

00:13:40.760 entirely? Well, I guess presumably what could happen, if you go through the appeals and all

00:13:46.360 that, either gets thrown out or part of it, and I think that's part of why Smith phrased that

00:13:51.560 question as it is, is beginning the process then to do it within the confines of the law,

00:13:56.400 you would start something you would call a consultation process. You'd say, look,

00:14:00.080 we're looking to hold the question. Here's a bunch of public meetings with a bunch of chiefs. Here's

00:14:03.700 some Tim Hortons and donuts. Let's get together, talk it all out, express what we want to do. And

00:14:09.200 And we know it'll never be enough, but at least...

00:14:11.220 You said on your show, it would never be enough.

00:14:13.220 No.

00:14:13.460 Because somebody will always comply.

00:14:14.900 But at least you could go to a judge and say, well, look, we tried.

00:14:17.480 We did what we could.

00:14:18.940 We did put a process in.

00:14:20.420 We did communicate with leaders and legal scholars.

00:14:24.780 You can always find some to stay on every side who would say, this doesn't impact treaty rights.

00:14:29.280 But there's no clear path.

00:14:30.680 That's the thing we're certainly seeing right now, for sure.

00:14:33.160 There's no easy way to get a yes or no question on that ballot now.

00:14:39.200 Now, for the, but if you're going to, if this bizarre consultation before you even ask the question, if that was a thing that was going to be upheld in courts, and it would be crazy.

00:14:51.780 And for all of you conservative Federalists who are happy that this happened, this is just applying the duty to consult, which in principle isn't a bad thing.

00:15:03.500 It's actually a good thing that, you know, Indigenous groups should be consulted if it affects their treaty rights.

00:15:08.120 Well, it's not consent.

00:15:09.200 yeah it's not consent it's not a veto but duty to consult in its earlier principles this was i

00:15:14.560 think it's a good thing it's it's it's it's their natural right but um that was been that's been

00:15:20.640 taken from things like pipelines and whatnot and now if the duty consult is now applied before you

00:15:25.600 even consider to do something that means you can't even literally draft a pipe theoretically it would

00:15:32.080 mean you couldn't uh present a proposal to a government to build a pipeline or to build a

00:15:38.720 mine or drill an oil well without first consulting like you literally have to put the wagon before

00:15:43.680 the horse here so be careful with what you're cheering for this kind of court precedent um

00:15:48.960 but i don't know where i stand on this issue i'm still developing my thoughts around this

00:15:54.880 two tiers i think it is absurd to have a referendum to have a referendum but i'm gonna

00:15:59.120 to put something forward here, which maybe strengthens the case for it. Remember, Quebec

00:16:04.100 has had two sort of independence referendums. The second one, which, you know, we remember better,

00:16:11.340 1995, talked about sovereignty association, and it was muddled. The 1981, put forward by the

00:16:17.660 René Levesque PQ government, was even more muddled. Let me read this for you, if everyone could just

00:16:23.160 bear with me for a moment the government of quebec this is a weird okay the government of

00:16:29.500 quebec has made public its proposal to negotiate a new agreement with the rest of canada based on

00:16:35.880 the equality of nations this agreement would enable quebec to acquire the exclusive power to

00:16:41.940 to make its laws levy its taxes and establish relations abroad in other words sovereignty

00:16:47.380 At the same time, to maintain with Canada an economic association including common currency,

00:16:54.120 any change in political status resulting from these negotiations

00:16:57.020 will only be implemented with popular approval through another referendum.

00:17:02.040 On these terms, do you give the government of Quebec

00:17:05.120 the mandate to negotiate the proposed agreement between Quebec and Canada?

00:17:10.200 So Quebec had a referendum to have a referendum.

00:17:13.300 It kind of fleshed out what they want as the end goal, which was independence, but still an economic union, sort of, but quasi-independent, sort of.

00:17:24.280 That's what they use, the term sovereignty, not independence.

00:17:27.220 But it was a referendum to hold a referendum.

00:17:31.020 And in all honesty, you know, there would have to be an enabling at the end.

00:17:37.140 So say we just had a straight referendum on independence, and then we go through a Clarity Act process, and there's different ways that that could end.

00:17:45.300 But ultimately, there would now then need to be some kind of instrument declaring independence.

00:17:50.520 So it could even, even a straight independence referendum that was successful this October could theoretically result in another referendum anyway.

00:17:59.440 This might just be in a weird way, a way of, it's just a softer way of maybe putting it.

00:18:07.140 Because even Quebec had a two-stage, it was, that's a referendum to hold a referendum, and they lost that.

00:18:13.420 I'm sorry, doesn't it seem to me that now, they've got all the things they were asking for?

00:18:19.840 Yes, but, well, not 100%.

00:18:23.680 They don't have, they have caused by embassies and not, but they don't have.

00:18:27.360 They've got immigration control, which is a huge one.

00:18:31.500 There's partial immigration control.

00:18:32.660 It's what Premier Smith is after.

00:18:34.640 police controls

00:18:37.940 and stuff like that. So it seems to me

00:18:39.960 by holding this referendum

00:18:41.380 they created a political

00:18:43.980 way to become successful.

00:18:44.420 Well you're talking about that's the knife-in-a-throats

00:18:46.000 strategy.

00:18:48.260 So look, they got most of what

00:18:50.080 they want there but they don't have their own, you know, there's no

00:18:52.100 Quebec army and navy and they don't

00:18:54.100 have formal embassies

00:18:56.000 abroad even though they have accaches to most

00:18:57.800 countries that they're interested in those embassies, etc.

00:19:00.180 They got most of what they want.

00:19:02.120 Actually they get better because they get to keep all the

00:19:04.100 money from Alberta that's going there. So

00:19:05.720 they got better than what they were really asking

00:19:07.900 for.

00:19:09.620 But anyway, my point is here that

00:19:11.740 I'm not

00:19:14.220 sure. I generally don't like a

00:19:16.040 referendum to hold a referendum, but

00:19:17.140 practically speaking, it may have been inevitable

00:19:19.900 anyway. So this is a way of

00:19:21.760 maybe just

00:19:23.920 starting the ball rolling. So I'm not

00:19:26.060 trying to make excuses for what they're doing here because I

00:19:27.820 think it is silly,

00:19:29.140 but it actually kind of might line up with what the reality

00:19:32.140 of the situation is. Another reality

00:19:34.080 and Keith Wilson kind of laid it out too.

00:19:36.320 He said the quiet part out loud.

00:19:37.760 I mean, there's been a lot of independence talk for a year now,

00:19:39.860 more than we've ever seen in our lives.

00:19:41.720 And the bar where the support for solid independence hasn't budged.

00:19:47.080 It's been sitting around that 30-ish percent zone,

00:19:50.160 despite all the ground organization, despite all the debate,

00:19:53.140 everything else, it hasn't moved.

00:19:56.380 The winning conditions, I mean, Quebec's always talked about that.

00:19:59.040 They're not having another one until they get the winning conditions.

00:20:00.900 Well, I don't think we have them.

00:20:01.880 and this question might be more winnable than a binary up and down like they were talking about

00:20:07.600 maybe we weren't in a position anyways this could be a blessing in disguise

00:20:10.240 campaign on this you can win a lot of people on the fence who want to use it for leverage who

00:20:15.340 want to send a message because they know it's non-binding but you can start that process and

00:20:20.500 mechanism and then yeah it might lead to another referendum that next referendum you're going to

00:20:23.940 be a heck of a lot better prepared but that one would be the final one that would be the

00:20:28.220 So the case I'm making is that constitutionally and in the reality of the politics is we probably would have two referendums anyway.

00:20:36.480 Yeah.

00:20:37.000 It's kind of a dry run for the real thing then, really, in essence.

00:20:39.840 Yeah.

00:20:40.820 So, yeah, I don't know.

00:20:41.780 I don't mean it as excuse making because it is all floppy and flimsy and it's weird.

00:20:47.400 It is weird.

00:20:48.940 But here's the weird thing.

00:20:50.160 One of the weird things is unlike the Quebec independence movement, Alberta's Quebec independence movement has always been clear.

00:20:56.260 We don't want a weaselly question.

00:20:58.220 We want a straight up or down independence or status quo.

00:21:02.180 That's it.

00:21:02.820 Whereas Quebec has always been, you know, they put a whole paragraph on a ballot, for God's sakes.

00:21:07.700 That's that's a weird.

00:21:09.540 We never liked that.

00:21:10.900 And Canadians generally were rightfully contemptuous of these weird Quebec questions designed to try and get a better vote.

00:21:19.760 But it's the federal courts that have said Alberta is not allowed to have a clear question.

00:21:26.180 essentially Alberta's not allowed to comply with the

00:21:29.280 Clarity Act. That's what a whole bunch

00:21:31.280 of this debate has really come down to though is that

00:21:33.040 we're fighting to whether or not we're even allowed to 0.99

00:21:35.260 ask the damn question. You know that was never a question 0.99

00:21:37.420 in Quebec. It was never questioned whether or not they could

00:21:39.120 have a referendum. They could question

00:21:41.200 whether or not the referendum was valid

00:21:43.380 with the question they asked and

00:21:45.240 a lot of other things but what's happening right now

00:21:47.280 is they're pulling out all the stops to say

00:21:49.320 we can't even have the referendum

00:21:51.140 and they're putting the

00:21:53.360 roadblocks in that way 0.84

00:21:55.420 I mean, we're even hearing now about the Indigenous guys are getting up to challenge this weird, mushy middle question we've got going on. 0.85

00:22:03.120 Is it going to be allowed even to ever have that question asked and lose it or win it or not?

00:22:08.780 That's the debate that's happening in Alberta.

00:22:10.240 Well, let's lay the blame where it belongs.

00:22:12.160 It's in the courts.

00:22:13.780 You've got judicial activism that are now stopping the will of the people.

00:22:20.620 And I don't think that was the intent.

00:22:22.520 I was just going to say, do you think that's just going to make more people angry and maybe get on the pro-independence side then?

00:22:27.260 Because of the fact they won't even let you have a question?

00:22:29.420 Possibly. It's part of the case to make.

00:22:30.900 And I mean, it's really, there's lots of people theorizing on what happened, how we got here.

00:22:34.600 My political theory on what Premier Smith was hoping to accomplish was building some leverage.

00:22:40.460 I don't think she's a secessionist. I don't think she ever was.

00:22:44.040 But you get that question out there. You get that ball rolling.

00:22:48.100 You let them petition for it. It wasn't her. It was the process.

00:22:50.900 so we're disrespecting that process and then she would hope that it would come in with 25 or 30 0.98

00:22:55.940 percent support in the fall and she's got a whole heck of a lot of leverage then to start twisting 0.87

00:23:01.540 arms for pipelines for things where she can say look if you don't want that to turn to 50 the 0.66

00:23:05.860 next time they get a chance we need this this this and this you know i suspect that's where

00:23:10.180 she wanted to go but all that's kind of fallen apart yeah yeah um well this raises an interesting

00:23:17.140 point here um most countries that have declared independence did not do so through referenda uh

00:23:25.420 they normally did throw so through some form of a vote in a legislature uh singapore 1965 no

00:23:32.360 referendum it was the parliament kosovo here's an interesting example the united states the

00:23:38.740 continental congress they didn't have a referendum in the 13 colonies their delegates from this from

00:23:43.420 the colonial uh 13 colony uh legislatures in uh sent to the continental congress they declared

00:23:50.460 independence bangladesh rhodesia uh and then most of the so the soviet uh breakaway republics so

00:23:57.660 lithuania latvia estonia moldovia kyrgyzstan uzbekistan dijikistan turkmanistan kazakhstan

00:24:03.180 and russia itself they didn't have uh because technically russia separated from the soviet

00:24:09.100 union they're like the last one to do it uh uh did actually no maybe belarus never did they

00:24:14.460 really liked the soviet i think belarus maybe stuck around a bit tied to the hip yeah but uh

00:24:19.140 they never had referenda and so this is raising the interesting prospect then that if they will

00:24:26.640 not allow albertans to have a clear vote on a clear question on independence do we then default

00:24:34.600 to what is actually the historical model

00:24:36.700 and the Alberta legislature

00:24:39.040 simply votes itself

00:24:40.860 into independence if that's its wish.

00:24:43.380 Because that's the way it's

00:24:44.740 pretty much always been done.

00:24:46.140 It has, but I mean, it's the precedent's been set in Canada

00:24:48.820 to put it to the people.

00:24:49.960 If they don't allow it,

00:24:51.700 then that's the only route.

00:24:54.040 Well, no, there's another route, which is a real dangerous one.

00:24:56.960 And that's something I've talked

00:24:58.800 about in the past too. If you close

00:25:00.660 off the bottle and don't allow

00:25:01.980 a democratic mechanism, and I don't

00:25:04.520 want or suggest anybody do it. But I think, and I've said it before, the part of the reason that

00:25:09.120 the FLQ vanished finally after murdering people and setting bombs is because a democratic route

00:25:15.420 opened up because Rene Levesque said, we can do this through a referendum. We can do this

00:25:19.400 peacefully. We can get out of the federation. And the extremists settled down or at least stopped

00:25:26.420 that aspect of it. They stopped kidnapping and killing people. Exactly. And it never resurfaced

00:25:30.380 again but if you suddenly start telling provinces like go back and alberta you can't even entertain

00:25:37.000 the question they're you know when you're talking about millions of people unfortunately all takes 0.93

00:25:42.180 is a handful of the real crazed extreme somebody might do something really stupid i i think there's 0.55

00:25:47.060 a another level of irresponsibility in trying to shut down the ability to peacefully do this 0.94

00:25:51.740 i know what you're saying with the european thing but that was sort of a it was a little

00:25:55.460 different too because those countries were all already defined i mean they'd had some degree of

00:25:58.760 independence and they kind of got sucked into the soviet block most of them had not some of them

00:26:03.960 had been given like ukraine had never been independent except for a few months at the end

00:26:08.640 of the first world war after the treaty of brest latovsk ukraine had never existed as an independent

00:26:12.760 country there were people there but how you define ukraine and if it was fuzzy lines i mean

00:26:17.440 it was still in poland or uh kazakhstan i mean a lot of the things that these were a lot of these

00:26:23.140 had not been properly defined nation states on their own ever and i mean it's only been in the

00:26:27.740 last hundred and some years where we have better defined what nation states are too i mean those

00:26:31.720 borders were were mushy but i just think it's it's we're getting into dangerous turf if we take away

00:26:36.640 the mechanism that we brought about yeah this is the same a democratic way to go because if you

00:26:40.840 don't then i guess there are two other options one is a legislature declares it so which is

00:26:46.460 the most common in the kind of the west and the free world and you know somewhat democratic world

00:26:53.260 And then the other one is revolutionary, which nobody wants to go down.

00:26:57.480 But if you close off those legitimate democratic mechanisms, that leaves out as the only one.

00:27:02.400 And no one wants to go there.

00:27:04.400 And that's what Fabio's been after, right?

00:27:06.360 He wants to vote in the legislature, even though he whiffle waffles and changes his mind.

00:27:11.000 But he would be happy with a vote in the legislature.

00:27:13.580 Well, then I'm sure it could go the other way.

00:27:15.060 The legislature could vote to declare independence.

00:27:17.600 Why not?

00:27:17.960 If it was truly landing just in the laps of the legislature, though,

00:27:22.160 the legislature needs a very strong mandate somehow from the people who have brought it in.

00:27:26.500 That lends towards kind of what Jeff Raff and Mitch Sylvester are talking about.

00:27:30.580 Well, we've got to take over the government if we want this to happen.

00:27:33.240 Great pivot.

00:27:34.420 Okay.

00:27:35.340 That's not even a pivot.

00:27:36.380 That's a segue.

00:27:37.600 Okay.

00:27:38.780 And I'm coming to you first on that, Corey.

00:27:41.080 Oh, sorry.

00:27:43.340 Hey, you're the best-selling Canadian author on this stuff, right?

00:27:47.400 on the amazon bestseller list so um i mean we all know the history uh the alberta premier's job

00:27:56.040 especially as a conservative is the least secure job in canada no one no alberta oh sorry in canada

00:28:02.040 yes i was gonna say the hezbollah guys they would have a bit more but you did say in canada are you

00:28:09.880 saying that the alberta premier is the hezbollah of canada that's not what i'm saying that's what i

00:28:15.480 So, no Alberta Conservative Premier has finished a single term since Ralph Klein in 2004.

00:28:26.900 Our longest serving Premier has been Rachel Notley.

00:28:29.420 Because she at least was elected and served out a term.

00:28:33.420 She's the longest lasting one we've had.

00:28:35.220 That is crazy.

00:28:39.040 The last time it was J.C. Kenney comes in.

00:28:44.180 uses a lot of the same rhetoric

00:28:46.240 very anti-Ottawa

00:28:48.140 we're going to hold a referendum

00:28:49.120 on not independence but on

00:28:50.960 he does that

00:28:53.820 zilch happens just crickets 0.93

00:28:56.220 from Ottawa he blows up his own 0.84

00:28:58.260 base even says he wants a new one

00:29:00.040 during COVID

00:29:01.720 and he's out still

00:29:04.200 trying to

00:29:05.620 redeem himself here

00:29:07.740 but

00:29:08.280 Smith has been

00:29:11.900 on track to be the first conservative

00:29:13.840 since 2004 and ralph klein to finish term uh i think the money is still pretty good that she will

00:29:21.820 but this is the first time where there's at least some small cracks and you know people have called 0.60

00:29:27.860 for her at her last leadership review uh you know for people to vote against her they got annihilated

00:29:33.280 she got like 93 she spiked the ball that was a dominating dominating review um but now that we've

00:29:41.840 got this convoluted

00:29:43.840 question to ask a question.

00:29:47.360 Some

00:29:47.920 people in the independence movement

00:29:49.540 are saying, okay, she's betrayed us

00:29:51.960 and she's got to go.

00:29:54.360 They want to use the same mechanism 1.00

00:29:55.980 to force a leadership review, an unscheduled

00:29:58.100 leadership review, as was used against Kenny.

00:29:59.960 You get, I think, roughly 23, 24

00:30:02.180 constituency associations to pass

00:30:03.900 a motion requesting

00:30:06.260 one, then you essentially

00:30:07.800 get essentially a recall vote on

00:30:09.980 the leader.

00:30:10.340 Corey

00:30:12.540 we'll get into how advisable

00:30:15.320 or not this is in a bit

00:30:16.280 but what's your take

00:30:19.140 on how serious a challenge that is

00:30:21.220 right now to our leadership? Well things are so volatile

00:30:23.360 nothing should be taken for granted right now

00:30:25.160 we've hit so much unprecedented waters

00:30:27.320 in this last couple of years I won't say anything

00:30:29.460 is impossible

00:30:30.960 but it means yeah as you said the

00:30:33.220 precedence there it just seems to be a curse

00:30:35.380 for premiers for the last couple of decades

00:30:37.260 at the same

00:30:39.340 time

00:30:40.340 one of the things those might have shown a little slipping in a recent poll but it might not be

00:30:44.180 a difference between smith and kenny smith's sitting pretty good in the polls yeah kenny was

00:30:48.340 kenny was lined up to have re-annihilated in a general election so a lot of the party loyal

00:30:53.540 at that point would be looking at well if i want to keep my job we've got to get rid of this and

00:30:57.540 we're not seeing that so much with smith so the the organization to try and take her i think is

00:31:02.900 serious and and uh they know how to do it and they've done it before so i mean it could cause

00:31:07.220 enough disruption even just to lead to the end of her term it has to be taken seriously but i don't

00:31:12.900 know if the existing circumstances are there to make it as possible as they may think it is because

00:31:18.980 there's not as many people fearing for their jobs as mlas and so on within her caucus right now as

00:31:23.540 there was in jason kenny's circumstance yeah and also with jason kenny uh there was kind of two

00:31:28.580 big things the media focus on one of the real things that took him out which was his uh you

00:31:33.540 From our perspective, overreaction and over-authoritarianism as it involved COVID.

00:31:39.900 That was a huge one, of course.

00:31:41.620 But also, a lot of people were kind of the same people with the overlap of the Venn diagram here.

00:31:46.740 But he was perceived as weak on Ottawa.

00:31:50.760 He came in with all this anti-Ottawa rhetoric.

00:31:53.460 And then it had to all be meaningless bluster.

00:31:56.200 So that was a major motivating factor against him as well. 0.97

00:31:59.800 I don't think Danielle is perceived as weak on Ottawa. 0.86

00:32:02.380 Although, you know, she has been seen as cozy a bit with Carney over the MOU and whatnot.

00:32:07.660 And there's a lot of very fair and realistic skepticism about, you know, are we selling the farm about that?

00:32:14.040 I tend to think we are now.

00:32:16.340 But she hasn't generated a mass right-wing populist revolt against her the way Kenny did with COVID lockdowns and mandates.

00:32:26.360 Like there simply aren't hundreds of thousands of people who've been fired from their jobs because of something Daniel Smith did.

00:32:33.200 People who have been arrested for going to church.

00:32:36.080 That kind of groundswell simply doesn't exist.

00:32:39.600 But, you know, the independence movement is big.

00:32:42.440 It's it's I hate to say it's sort of organized, but I mean, it's no, it's it's it's herds of chicken.

00:32:51.440 Yeah, it's never been particularly organized.

00:32:55.100 but there's no there isn't that big groundswell of support of people who have been personally

00:33:00.420 harmed by her uh i don't know i'll put it to you this way cory is this really to get her out or is

00:33:08.320 this maybe to scare her into changing the question uh i just to disclose i spent my last weekend in

00:33:15.600 saskatchewan with mitch sylvester the two of us on uh speaking uh engagements you know we had

00:33:21.360 separate rooms, so our discussion was still only limited. But no, I think he's genuinely furious

00:33:27.580 enough that he wants the Premier replaced. The other principal in the Alberta Prosperity Project

00:33:34.420 has probably wanted Smith replaced for years, if you look at his past rhetoric. He has a particular

00:33:40.780 beef with the Premier. So they are serious. They really want her out. I think some who would be

00:33:48.460 supportive of them would just much prefer that she just changed that question and then they would 0.97

00:33:52.120 back off like they could see this fine just give us that darn question and then we'll lay off so

00:33:56.460 they feel that that would be a route to go but how do you put the pressure on without starting the 0.87

00:34:00.440 gears i guess they feel of uh you know bringing about an sgm something that's been been telling

00:34:07.800 is that this question's been out for a week now groups are getting going they're getting

00:34:12.400 organized they're campaigning and the alberta prosperity project which is now the primary

00:34:17.080 group again hasn't updated their website in four months like they they whatever they're doing it's

00:34:23.000 internal right now and uh yeah i think the problem is you've got a battle at the top between two

00:34:30.600 two gentlemen who have huge egos delusions of grandeur and they're headbutting each other all

00:34:37.560 the time and they're more concerned about what's going on in the circle around them

00:34:42.760 and they are getting their message out on on independence um so they they've got to figure

00:34:50.360 it out i mean you you talked about it on your show they haven't even updated their their website

00:34:54.840 there's no doesn't appear to be a clear leader in the group um they need to figure their stuff out

00:35:00.520 well yeah and i mean i understand if they're doing a bunch of uh internal battles or whatever going

00:35:04.360 on but at least i mean you got the resources i imagine you got a large group just just pay your

00:35:08.680 webmaster and just say throw a few press releases on this thing knock the dust off it let's put out

00:35:13.320 a couple of statements so i want to talk about two front war here um i mean even if again i

00:35:20.440 don't know legally is smith and company correct here that like this is just the best question

00:35:25.880 that we can get away with without another injunction stopping it or those saying no

00:35:30.920 that doesn't apply if the government just puts the question on i don't know um but launching

00:35:37.560 a two-front war here, where you're fighting a referendum

00:35:39.660 on one side. 0.82

00:35:41.820 The Federalists are better

00:35:43.480 organized, they're better funded,

00:35:46.000 they've got bigger names

00:35:47.620 attached to them, and like them

00:35:49.660 or not, they're viewed as credible,

00:35:52.000 noteworthy people.

00:35:54.260 And they're smart.

00:35:55.720 They're attacking it from multiple angles. You've got

00:35:57.440 the left-wing campaign with

00:35:59.760 Denchi,

00:36:01.640 which isn't even really a Federalist campaign. It's just a

00:36:03.460 pro-NDP, anti-UCP campaign at this point.

00:36:05.520 But then you also got another kind of center left one with Thomas Lukasik.

00:36:08.720 And then you've got Jason Kenney's group with some other kind of conservative federalists.

00:36:14.960 And then there's just kind of this hodgepodge on the Alberta nationalist side.

00:36:20.840 And then and it's already an uphill climb.

00:36:23.920 The best polls are 35, 38 percent is the very, very best polls we've ever seen.

00:36:29.200 So kind of 30 to 38 percent.

00:36:31.760 So you're already on a huge uphill climb to win this thing.

00:36:35.520 the other the federalists are better funded better organized more recognizable people as spokesmen

00:36:41.580 um and then this side that already is fighting an uphill war proposes

00:36:46.920 uh a kind of schlieffen plan here and uh danielle smith is france seeing a quickly knock out danielle 0.97

00:36:53.820 smith then run a leadership race ostensibly and try to win that it's actually making a three

00:37:00.440 front so you have to take out danielle smith you've got to win a leadership race and i don't

00:37:05.260 know who the nationalist candidate is for premier at that point you got to win that uh then somehow

00:37:10.220 unify the party all before october 19th um so you have left you probably won't even have that done

00:37:18.000 by october 19th the referendum comes and goes before that actually happens um and then but

00:37:23.880 even if it was done even if they had a no pun intended a blitz leadership race and you get that

00:37:28.940 done you've left no time and no resources for actually fighting the referendum in the meantime

00:37:34.480 you've got like three or four big organized well-funded federalist camps which are the one

00:37:39.360 one here use your analogies yeah you're giving the eastern front four free months of organization

00:37:44.640 knowing that you're going to be coming in yeah so you know what do you think is going to happen

00:37:49.840 when you start that campaign they've already built the wall you're up yeah and there's no guarantee

00:37:53.920 you defeat france in a in a few weeks right like it's smith stronger than france was a lot stronger

00:38:00.800 So it's fighting a two or more front war with no time to do it.

00:38:07.980 So even if you are really angry at Smith here and you think she's betrayed the Alberta Nationalists from having the right to have their referendum,

00:38:16.140 I don't see plausibly how that fixes things.

00:38:21.600 I think what you do is like you just you throw everything into the referendum.

00:38:25.440 You might hate it. You throw everything into it.

00:38:27.500 win, lose or draw

00:38:29.340 because 50% plus one is a draw

00:38:32.000 I guess

00:38:32.900 then you reassess

00:38:36.020 was Smith fair to us

00:38:37.740 and then you could decide where to go with that

00:38:40.280 but this

00:38:41.840 I don't know

00:38:42.700 this just seems to be terrible

00:38:45.500 strategically

00:38:46.580 it seems to be emotionally driven rather than maybe a rational political move

00:38:50.140 or something

00:38:50.620 and that's the whole problem

00:38:54.080 they're too emotional

00:38:55.700 yeah you got to be rushing we're out on cbc okay yeah see i'm on truce i'm trying to bite my tongue

00:39:02.300 and a lot of stuff that's like one shot i haven't even seen his name yet well we don't have a lot

00:39:07.540 of time we're nearing the end here but uh maybe we'll we'll get into uh the federalist camps there

00:39:14.040 there's a few i don't remember all of their names but there's uh what was the ndb one called

00:39:17.960 whatever whatever there's an nd there's an nd one yeah there's the ndp one yeah yeah uh there's

00:39:24.660 forever canada thomas just released one today yes another one our friend stephen carter okay so

00:39:29.320 they're launching a bunch of these so they can all spend up to the maximum on advertising like

00:39:33.180 this is the way it's and they're all going to work kind of injunction uh injunction together

00:39:37.180 but separately because they're trying to appeal to different crowds you got the ndp one is really

00:39:41.760 just trying to build lists and raise money for the ndp nenshi does not seem to actually be trying

00:39:46.840 to convince people to stay in canada he's trying to convince people to debt this is all daniel

00:39:50.380 smith's bad for allowing this to happen he should vote for me but it's going to allow them to spend

00:39:54.300 money and build lists and organization here and whatnot almost look at you got all of these

00:39:58.420 different groups um because there's it's not like quebec where you had the yes side and the no side

00:40:04.140 here you've got on on the federal side or no side better term uh jason kenny like nenshi cannot

00:40:13.320 appeal to a moderate conservative voter who's angry at ottawa and maybe thinking about voting

00:40:18.220 for independence because as soon as nenshi says don't do that you're gonna say f you i'm voting

00:40:23.040 against the purple man um so he he can't be the right guy same with jason kenny saying yes uh

00:40:29.440 you know ottawa may have been mean to us but this is not the way to do it a new democrat uh well

00:40:35.720 they're still going to vote to stay in canada but they're not going to be happy about kenny as their

00:40:39.160 spokesman so they've got multiple campaigns going after uh different groups whereas the independent

00:40:44.800 side it's maybe vaguely one but it's run haphazardly and it can't decide if the federalists

00:40:52.100 they're the enemy of danielle smith is but don't forget derek that danielle smith has said she's

00:40:56.440 going to spend the summer crisscrossing alberta uh to encourage people to stay to stay in canada

00:41:02.400 that infuriated the independence yeah that would be a bad move on her part i think that would not 0.97

00:41:07.460 be smart for her leadership why uh it's essentially data it's a de facto agreement of detente she'll 0.85

00:41:15.140 allow a vote but she'll just let the people decide she says she'll vote to stay but if she 0.95

00:41:19.840 actively gets involved in campaigning,

00:41:21.760 she is then seen as the enemy of the independent 0.67

00:41:23.820 side. That would not be smart for her.

00:41:25.880 Seeing her as what has to be taken out 0.96

00:41:28.020 versus winning a yes.

00:41:29.480 Yeah, but as we've discussed, there's no time for that.

00:41:32.700 Not enough. No, but

00:41:33.800 I mean, there's enough of them need to realize there's not

00:41:35.900 enough time, and if Smith takes that, those

00:41:38.000 realizing it. She gives them a reason then.

00:41:39.940 Yeah, then it's not just 0.55

00:41:41.780 two upset folks with a handful

00:41:43.800 of chips on their shoulder. They might actually make a case

00:41:45.860 to their membership. We'll see.

00:41:47.900 A lot's going to happen, I think, in this next two or three weeks for

00:41:49.720 and figure out what they're doing yeah okay you know that was great i kind of like this pipeline

00:41:54.940 where we're not just rushing through 15 minute segments on a few different things but we're

00:41:58.700 we're getting more into it we can't do that every week because we often don't have this

00:42:01.560 much material on a essentially a single topic uh but we did this week so that works better i like

00:42:05.980 this so we're not getting to wob the canoe your great headline oh the best headline we don't get

00:42:11.320 to wob rocks the canoe well you know uh many of you saw you know he was kind of grandstanding at

00:42:17.680 the Western Premier's conference, very, very undiplomatically, but probably good politically

00:42:21.340 for the people he's trying to reach, you know, calling out Daniel Smith saying, you know,

00:42:25.760 doing his thing. But the most important thing is we wrote a great headline. That's the takeaway.

00:42:31.960 Okay, Dave, you get the first parting shot. It was a year or so ago, President Dimwit stood with

00:42:40.360 the German Chancellor and said there's not a business case to be made. Prime Minister Dimwit.

00:42:44.500 Prime Minister Dimwit, not a business case to be made for selling LNG to Germany.

00:42:50.160 Flash forward to today, they've announced a big LNG plant in B.C. that will export LNG to Germany.

00:43:01.800 The sad thing for us is now they're going to have to transport it down south, under South America and back up.

00:43:09.460 Whereas if we only had a pipeline to the East Coast.

00:43:12.220 It's probably the Panama Canal.

00:43:14.520 Apparently, some of the ships are too heavy, too wide, and they have to go down.

00:43:19.260 But if only we had a pipeline and Germany could pick up their LNG on the East Coast,

00:43:25.100 sail it across the Atlantic, they'd have it a hell of a lot quicker.

00:43:28.700 Thanks, Prime Minister Twitten.

00:43:31.620 Corey.

00:43:32.160 I'll just be quick, just to remind folks, Mark Kearney had a hot mic moment,

00:43:35.300 and I love hot mic moments, and apparently he told Gregor Robertson after a conference,

00:43:39.560 turned to him and said along the lines of 1.00

00:43:41.600 this is so stupid, there was an 1.00

00:43:43.640 off-ramp, why didn't they take it? 1.00

00:43:45.840 He's saying, oh, it was just something I said

00:43:47.140 about Robertson, but it didn't make any sense.

00:43:49.480 No, he'd been cornered on the independence question.

00:43:51.720 He was clearly referring to Daniel Smith, saying 1.00

00:43:53.500 she's basically being stupid and didn't take an off-ramp. 1.00

00:43:56.240 You get to see the true politicians 1.00

00:43:57.700 once in a while when the mic's hot and they're not paying attention.

00:44:00.080 Hot mic, that sounds like a good name for a show.

00:44:02.940 Or the term

00:44:03.820 that would go in the Urban Dictionary.

00:44:07.920 Okay.

00:44:08.280 yeah something about a starfish yeah there we go let's note that one down okay dent oh well this

00:44:16.440 is kind of a cool one there's this guy called dusty friesen and he just apparently broke a

00:44:21.000 world record driving off a local waterfall in his boat which is called dent his riverboat he set a

00:44:26.040 record of some lembrek falls i believe down in crow's nest pass apparently it was 29 feet we're

00:44:30.440 just watching the video right now on youtube or i mean on twitter it's got over a million views so

00:44:35.320 this is some pete alberta man stuff right here yeah 1.4 million and had you got your name uh this

00:44:40.920 our news meeting there today we're talking about the name of the boat he's like why is it called

00:44:43.720 dent i said i don't know because he flies off of waterfalls with it this is actually pretty cool

00:44:48.360 yeah it's it's pretty cool although look like i'm not saying this is nothing like this this

00:44:53.640 this is quite a drop 29 feet it says but i'm i'm kind of surprised that would be the world record

00:44:59.080 like i feel like there's guys dumber than that yeah well unfortunately this is the sort of thing 0.92

00:45:03.000 thing that'll occur is more to be dumber so we'll see the next video and we'll find out why 30 feet 0.96

00:45:07.420 we've had people go off niagara falls did we put alberta man in the headline because if not that's

00:45:12.600 yeah is the story not out no not yet no okay well okay well okay this is a great uh screw florida

00:45:19.800 move over florida man alberta man's coming through is he from albert this seems like a guy from

00:45:25.400 florida actually yeah i think he works in the oil patch here from what i've seen so no surprise

00:45:30.480 there. Those riverboats are

00:45:32.320 definitely guys in an alpaculate.

00:45:33.940 I just got a photo of it out here, actually.

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00:46:34.400 Oh, you can see William right there.

00:46:37.020 Oh, is that William?

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Western Standard - May 31, 2026

THE PIPELINE： All Madness on the Western Front

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