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00:00:53.580 good day today is november 19th 2025 i'm derek phillibrand publisher of the western standard

00:01:00.720 and you're watching the pipeline we've got our usual lineup in the calgary newsroom here

00:01:06.540 western standard former opinion editor and nigel henneford here again and western standard senior

00:01:13.360 alberta columnist cory morgan always a pleasure back by popular demand we have our new uh western

00:01:20.520 standard uh parliament hill correspondent william barkley hey everyone great to be back all right

00:01:27.920 uh well we got some fun stuff from both ottawa and alberta where we're at here um the secret liberal

00:01:36.680 conservative coalition uh i think i'm probably overstating it a little bit when i say that but

00:01:42.240 uh the federal budget passed with i think it was just some the theater around it it passed with the

00:01:49.800 conservatives voting against it but really wanting it to pass so people hiding behind curtains

00:01:55.140 literally to make sure if it was closed but not not too close um so you know how the liberals are now

00:02:01.780 staying in power strangely with the support of the conservatives we'll talk about that uh alberta's

00:02:09.180 health care revolution the global mail reporting uh we haven't seen i haven't seen comment from the

00:02:14.100 government yet but in alberta cold mail reporting that uh the plan is to allow uh doctors to private

00:02:22.500 uh practice in both the public and private systems which i think would constitute a pretty big breach of

00:02:28.480 the canada health act which i think is awesome because ottawa has no damned business uh telling doctors

00:02:36.680 what they can do in provinces because health care is under strict provincial jurisdiction uh so that

00:02:43.200 that's big news and the usual suspects their heads are blowing up right now it's glorious to watch

00:02:48.980 but first we'll start uh something also closer to home here in alberta uh the notwithstanding clause

00:02:56.780 it was used just the other week to legislate uh the alberta teachers union back to work they were

00:03:03.800 being obstinate just not even negotiating they were offered massive raises so that nope not good

00:03:09.800 we're not even talking it looked like this was a strike they could have drawn out forever i think

00:03:15.120 they actually wanted to be legislated back to work i just don't think they expected the government

00:03:18.980 to invoke the notwithstanding clause to do it now we find out um that uh the notwithstanding clause

00:03:27.120 is going to uh be invoked to protect three pieces of legislation the past last spring

00:03:33.780 around uh legislation that involves trans issues around keeping biological males out of biological

00:03:41.360 female sports um uh restrictions on you know stopping uh people who are minors from transitioning

00:03:50.720 um and uh banning schools from hiding the fact that their child might be using different pronouns and

00:03:59.280 going by a different gender than the one that they were born with and that nature has assigned to them

00:04:03.780 those legislate legislate those pieces of legislation have already passed in a normal civilized

00:04:10.900 country that legislation cory uh would easily withstand a charter challenge but are are in this

00:04:19.400 country with these judges with their rather liberal view of the charter you never really know it would not

00:04:28.440 be uh beyond the pale for them to say that no it is a violation of your uh you know your equality

00:04:36.160 rights under the under the charter uh to not be allowed to uh you know wrestle against little girls

00:04:43.580 when you're born a man uh or born born a male so preemptively protecting these pieces of legislation

00:04:50.020 from charter challenge uh i i saw a bunch of weepy people on the cbc the cbc was so deferential

00:04:58.620 and i mean you know you have hostile interviews you have friendly interviews i i've done friendly

00:05:04.600 interviews it's fun but i'm not working for the national broadcaster as they call themselves the

00:05:09.820 state broad state broadcaster uh just these oh how does this make you feel um you know they're

00:05:16.540 interviewing some woman who claims that i think her boy is a girl um i don't know their particular

00:05:25.680 circumstances mathematically it's probably just not actually the case you know it's a nose ring uh

00:05:32.780 usual uh what is it uh reverse munchausen looking person uh but i can't say i don't know the details

00:05:42.800 of that case but most of these cases it's bullshit it's made up and they had this weepy interview the

00:05:47.940 the cbc is running the normal propaganda uh line on this even though the overwhelming majority of

00:05:53.020 albertans support this legislation keeping biological males out of bile out of female sports that kind of

00:05:59.900 stopping uh minors from transitioning that kind of thing uh but yeah it was it's the usual suspects

00:06:07.340 lining up on it um but i don't know alberta had not used the notwithstanding clause ever until

00:06:13.120 extremely recently and now we're uh well if there was eight in the chamber we only got four left

00:06:18.160 yeah they didn't hesitate and it's not just the cbc i torment myself with uh some conventional talk

00:06:23.560 radio in the mornings on the way here and they were interviewing a similar uh munchausen by proxy

00:06:27.960 mother who was talking about her pre-teen child who now is just uh going to be devastated and ruined

00:06:33.240 because apparently they weren't allowed to interfere with their development as a you know

00:06:37.180 chemically for uh drugs it's absurdity and and and i appreciate the smith government saying the quiet

00:06:43.560 part out loud with this european countries have brought in similar legislation you hear silence

00:06:47.740 from the left from that in the world of progressiveness that you know let's quit pretending

00:06:52.300 that interfering with a natural body's progression from childhood to adulthood which is called puberty

00:06:57.900 isn't a radical intervention isn't potentially dangerous uh you know will not lead to permanent

00:07:04.040 consequences let's quit pretending that boys can compete in girls sports and not cause risk and

00:07:10.360 damage and things i mean as you said the majority of people looking at that know that this is not

00:07:14.840 it's absurd that we even had to legislate to stop these things but it also shows us as you said that

00:07:21.140 the lack of trust in the courts we don't expect common sense from our courts anymore do we want to have

00:07:25.700 to waste the time of having all the hearings from these lunatics from the activists from the weepy

00:07:30.200 swords from the ninchies uh only to have some crazy court rule against it perhaps and then you have

00:07:35.480 to invoke the notwithstanding clause then so let's just do it right now get it out of the way and we're

00:07:40.100 done but uh boy you know the reaction in canada when alberta uses the notwithstanding clause as

00:07:44.640 compared to quebec using it was not sure is night and day isn't it yeah yeah you know uh i'll go to

00:07:51.880 uh william william i'm generally supportive of this i mean this is kind of the uh this is the

00:07:58.480 legislative nuclear option but i i don't want us to be over trigger happy about use of the not

00:08:04.620 withstanding clause the charter has some good purposes uh i think it's been a very weird

00:08:11.420 constitutional ingredient into a westminster parliament where only parliament is supreme and

00:08:18.140 not a written uh written constitution that's an american import into our system but it's there

00:08:24.360 and it has sometimes been beneficial sometimes not um but i mean the courts have done themselves

00:08:31.200 no favors here uh you know when they argue in the court's rule that yeah we're going to give this

00:08:36.680 guy a lighter sentence so that we don't compromise his ability to stay in canada and he doesn't get

00:08:41.260 deported uh that that is pure madness that no reasonable person i think would support i mean

00:08:50.060 be a very small percentage of the population back in that kind of thing the courts are supposed to be

00:08:54.160 above politics they're supposed to be above the sentiments of the mob because the mob can very

00:08:58.940 often be wrong um so i i just i want to be able to trust the courts here the problem is we can't

00:09:07.960 but are we by starting to you know preemptively use the notwithstanding clause here is it does that

00:09:17.260 run the risk of making the charter meaningless making judicial independence meaningless your thoughts

00:09:23.060 uh so for me first of all i think it's crazy when we're talking about the charter of right

00:09:28.080 and charter and this kind of stuff like that it's crazy when the liberal government was busy

00:09:31.500 literally violating the canadian chart of rights and freedoms invoking the emergencies act

00:09:35.580 uh using the law canada's democratic processes illegally and unreasonably it's not just me

00:09:40.280 saying that's a federal court uh no one on the left had anything to say in fact they defended those

00:09:44.320 actions right but now when we have the law right and canada's fundamental uh democratic process they're

00:09:49.260 being used legally like the way that they're intended to be used right um albeit in a way the

00:09:53.360 left doesn't like they're they're up in arms and i think that that speaks volumes it's never been

00:09:56.640 about human rights it's always been about imposing your beliefs on others and for their own good no left

00:10:01.260 and i think less and i think that's the modern left for you i think that actually like one of the things

00:10:05.100 that's kind of funny to me is that we've heard this talk about this uneasy alliance between like

00:10:08.640 let's say islamic extremists and left-wing radicals on a communist right but i don't think it's an

00:10:12.880 uneasy or tense alliance at all it's really quite an intimate relationship and they share a ton of

00:10:17.440 ideological similar similarities they're more similar i think in fact than not they both espouse a rigid

00:10:23.100 gender ideology and impose it on all and sundry uh they both uh think like fundamental human rights

00:10:28.000 like free speech and freedom of belief mean nothing and violence to them is ultimately the answer to

00:10:32.580 any disagreement with their dogma um there's no place for any ideas uh any ideas but their own

00:10:37.880 uh in society you know and i think that's what we have this i guess the same same to you nigel i

00:10:42.760 i would i support the use here i mean these are common sense pieces of legislation overwhelmingly

00:10:48.940 supported by most albertans the ndp of you know this is one of those it's not even a 70 30 issue it's

00:10:54.600 an 80 20 like overwhelmingly people are on side with this kind of stuff the ndp is is captured by the

00:11:02.000 hard end of its base that happens to parties sometimes uh i maybe have been a part of it

00:11:05.980 myself but uh they've taken the 20 side of an 80 question here um i i'm not sure

00:11:13.540 i guess they do they just can't bear to piss off their kind of radical progressivist

00:11:19.900 you know uh we'll call it sex marxism or i don't know what the hell you call this but um

00:11:26.080 uh they still remain on that side um the the legacy media seems almost you know you know

00:11:33.500 there'll be a couple columnists who dissent here nary i'm guessing you know you'll see a red bell

00:11:37.300 speak out in support you know dissenting from the rest of the media but the legacy media here

00:11:43.500 still overwhelmingly on that side i don't know why they're as captured though as say the ndp the ndp

00:11:50.200 has political pressures internally that are going to keep them on the 20 side of that ad question

00:11:55.380 i don't know why why is the cbc still doing this like they don't have market pressures they don't

00:12:02.020 have some kind of political pressures well i don't know that that's uh the case actually derek because

00:12:07.560 uh you know canada's national semi-official news agency is funded by the government and uh heritage

00:12:15.560 canada definitely has a point of view on these things you might recall that when we were speaking

00:12:21.420 with john hilton o'brien a couple of last couple of months he was explaining how as some of the

00:12:28.880 the gay sex books that we object to in the school libraries actually the plan originates through so

00:12:35.780 funded through heritage canada well why would they care you know i i honestly don't know but they

00:12:41.460 clearly do and the same people would be talking to cbc's put that together with the fact that women

00:12:48.920 tend to be empathetic more than men do and we'll see perhaps the the painful dilemma that that some

00:12:59.720 poor kids going through puberty all mixed up to hell and just say well and let it totally unwise but

00:13:09.620 see we'll let them change danielle smith to her credit is a little bit more hard nose than that

00:13:15.580 she realizes that with parental support and good counsel they'll get through it and they'll come

00:13:20.640 out at the end of the other side with a perfectly normal disposition you just have to stop them from

00:13:27.720 doing something that's going to ruin them for life when they're 13 years old lord knows we don't let

00:13:32.600 them drive why would we let them make a decision you're not allowed to get a tattoo you shouldn't

00:13:37.560 allowed to be uh you're messing with your kids uh yeah that's a piece of another analogy i mean

00:13:44.540 the chemicals used to stunt puberty are the same used for chemical castration in places where they

00:13:50.540 do that with sex offenders and that was found to be inhumane for sex offenders but we're talking about

00:13:55.540 putting it into 13 14 year old kids i mean this is just such a bizarre it's all the intent isn't it

00:14:00.860 anyway the point is she used the she she knows what the voters want the thing that the charter cost us

00:14:08.400 is the as uh represented the representational democracy basically if you have a problem you

00:14:16.280 get a lawyer and go to court you don't go to see your mp they'll get overruled by the courts anyway

00:14:21.260 so she but the notwithstanding clause was there for this express purpose of taking back control

00:14:27.300 well she took back control power to her all right um so uh fight here is with courts um the next fight

00:14:40.200 i think is uh danielle spit this pick in here uh if this globe story is in fact accurate i have not

00:14:47.520 seen it denied so i'm gonna go on the basis that it is because i hope very much that this is true

00:14:52.840 um you know during the ucp leadership uh i moderated a debate between herself and two of

00:15:01.080 the other leading candidates and i asked them all including smith um you know everyone talks about

00:15:08.160 i'm gonna fix health care and i'm gonna tinker here and i'm gonna tinker there and you know it's

00:15:13.200 been 54 years and the system is worse than ever i mean you've had 54 years to make single-payer

00:15:20.280 government monopoly health care work and it has failed and i asked them you know are you willing

00:15:27.280 to break the canada health act and all of them either said no or variations of dancing around

00:15:36.300 the question to more or less say no without saying it explicitly um this looks like it so

00:15:42.800 the globe is reporting that uh they're going to allow doctors to practice in both the public

00:15:50.760 and the private system um that opens the door to a lot more private now i mean pearl clutching

00:15:58.060 types in canada are just oh my god this means two-tier health care the whole planet has two-tier

00:16:03.860 health care canada has two-tier health care it's called america the extremely wealthy i i know a

00:16:08.800 couple of them they can they just go to the united states get an mri they get cancer screening uh they

00:16:16.440 get this stuff done i pay out of pocket they could do that by allowing it canada allowing private

00:16:21.700 insurance that's going to be the that's going to be what we now need is private insurance for uh

00:16:26.740 primary care not just secondary care and you know bells and whistles if i can call it that uh but this

00:16:33.780 this is a big big step that would be a direct violation of the canada health act now for those

00:16:38.460 following at home alberta is not bound by the canada health act because that is federal legislation

00:16:46.060 that just says that the federal government could then stop health care transfers to a province that

00:16:52.260 breaks the canada health act a normal person looking at the constitution would say that's

00:16:56.980 unconstitutional but our courts being our courts ruled it's fine because it's just giving money around

00:17:02.280 it's not telling them uh what to do um but yeah nigel i think uh this is a ballsy one um like this

00:17:10.140 is the this has been the third rail of canadian politics uh for my entire life proceeding even out a

00:17:16.740 bit uh to the point where even stockwell they had to hold up a sign during a national leaders debate

00:17:21.480 when he was a leader of the alliance saying no two-tier health care uh is the taboo broken

00:17:28.200 i hope so i assure your sentiments entirely when you were pounding the desk there a moment

00:17:33.760 this i mean this is a very old daniel smith idea from way back when she was in the calgary herald

00:17:39.440 editorial board shoes and saying you know one many things that we can do to get the system moving is

00:17:45.340 let doctors pick up work on the side i think she probably phrased it a little more elegantly than that

00:17:50.600 but that was the essence of it um you know what's the point of having uh medical facilities ready to

00:17:56.960 go but you're not allowed to use them because there isn't a budget for them here you are you're waiting

00:18:02.120 for a medical procedure there is the operating theater there is the empty slab there is the doctor

00:18:08.280 who's reading a book why because the government doesn't have the funds to put him to work all right

00:18:16.460 hey what i got funds fix me why would you not do that why would the government and this is true

00:18:25.020 of governments right across calendar they'll let you spend your money on all kinds of things that

00:18:30.180 are bad for you but you try and spend your money on something that's good for you like getting a

00:18:34.580 it's illegal uh oh can't have that you know uh i mean what's the matter with these people this is

00:18:41.060 absolute common sense i i hope like you i haven't seen any documentation i haven't seen a i haven't

00:18:47.140 seen the draft i haven't seen the leaked document uh i've only got the globe and mail to go on and

00:18:53.060 usually the globe has got something before they go to press so i'm inclined to think that this is a real

00:18:57.300 story i haven't denied it so no they haven't denied it so let's hope it's going to happen now the question

00:19:04.500 is when uh when ralph klein years and years ago you'll remember this you know he had a plan to

00:19:12.340 try and take care of the problem in waiting rooms where people were frankly abusing the system uh

00:19:17.860 showing up on a sunday night with a sniffle they could have come in on friday they could have you

00:19:21.940 know like people didn't need to be in emergency we're showing up in emergency said all right we'll

00:19:26.580 charge 10 bucks just for uh just for coming in for a visit just a little bit of money out of pocket

00:19:33.540 people adjust their behavior well that was terrible we couldn't do that that that's a

00:19:38.500 violation of the canada health act we're going to withhold the uh chst as it was called in those days

00:19:43.860 canada health and social transfer famous and well i mean i i don't know whether anybody would have

00:19:51.220 done any different but mr klein said all right then and that was that and then he doubled down and

00:19:57.060 introduced bill 11 to actually outlaw private hospitals in alberta and that law is still in

00:20:03.380 effect so i like the idea of this i'd like to see bill 11 abolished and maybe we put some uh

00:20:10.580 hospitals in alberta and go looking for business outside alberta bring the cost of uh you know we

00:20:20.100 bring the cost of the procedures down but through competition and really start to make a difference

00:20:26.580 because what's happening now is ridiculous well william if uh if we do this in alberta uh we're

00:20:33.220 gonna have some competition because we're not the first actually quebec allows this uh there was

00:20:38.260 the shiuli decision uh god that must have been what 20 years ago 2002 i think it was maybe three

00:20:44.100 okay yeah over 20 years ago we had the shielding decision uh found it was i forget the exact one

00:20:49.700 but it was found that access to a waiting list does not cost you access to health care and banning

00:20:56.500 people from then going and paying for their own health care was therefore a violation of uh security of the

00:21:02.180 the person your right to liberty and life and as i write the life and all that uh quebec has had

00:21:08.100 this for a long time but it no one likes to talk about it it it's it seems to fly below the radar

00:21:16.100 uh so the fact that quebec's been doing this for 20 years i don't know do you think this gives alberta

00:21:22.340 some cover uh from reprisal from ottawa that you know if alberta goes for this they can't turn around

00:21:29.780 penalize alberta if it's already been allowed to come back for over 20 years you know it should

00:21:35.220 but uh you know quebec is treated very uniquely i think the other thing is that alberta is being

00:21:39.540 rendered kind of synonymous with the conservative in the right in canada and so they can't do anything

00:21:43.380 right uh they're ultimately the the cause of every problem uh but you're right it shouldn't be

00:21:47.620 controversial at all in fact the strongest the best health care systems in the world in japan and

00:21:51.780 europe use similar system i'm in america a fair bit and i'm plugged into a lot of conversations and you

00:21:56.740 hear it everywhere in the states uh amongst the socialists there canada's public health care system

00:22:00.420 is so great everybody gets to see the doctor not just the rich and it's simply not true nobody gets

00:22:04.660 to see the doctors here i think that's the problem rich poor no one uh they're years long waiting lists

00:22:09.460 for even urgent operations and people routinely die on the waitlist without getting to see their

00:22:13.220 doctors and it's so bad they're offering just they were offering to kill people ourselves now with

00:22:17.380 maid right uh because uh and our most vulnerable populations at that i thought that we're trying to be

00:22:22.180 the most european of nations you know why the opposition it's just weird to me maybe the weirdest

00:22:26.180 thing is that it's alberta that's suddenly so progressive uh you know but you hit it on the

00:22:30.100 head it's it's all the opposition is because it's a conservative idea and again from uh danielle

00:22:34.660 smith who is again that that avatar of all uh all that's bad in canada all conservatism uh populism

00:22:40.260 and that's why it's been so rejected uh cory as i'm saying with nigel this has been the third rail

00:22:48.020 uh canadian politics forever ralph klein had his third way he proposed and that obviously hit a brick wall

00:22:55.540 uh politically um this hasn't been announced it's just come out through the globe because

00:23:01.940 it's carrie tate in the globe i'm guessing this is not a strategic leak this was not intentional

00:23:05.940 someone in the government i don't know it could be a political staffer could be a member of the

00:23:10.020 legislature could be a bureaucrat uh someone who doesn't like it probably gave it i think this was

00:23:17.060 intended to be a negative story but i i'm i'm like oh well this is some of the best news we've gotten

00:23:23.780 more of this um but i mean it's it's not going to be without political controversy um i think

00:23:32.740 there's you know especially among i think younger people uh the the cult status of universal health

00:23:41.540 care uh young people today have never remembered a time where it worked because it never has worked

00:23:47.220 uh says young people it's never worked in my time um i don't know if it's ever even worked in your

00:23:52.580 guys time it's always been crap i mean you know you know when i i crashed a motorcycle and i was in

00:23:57.540 really serious critical condition i'm pretty good uh as soon as i was kind of patched back together and

00:24:02.980 i needed to start learning to walk again turned to crap and i just went to private i exited the public

00:24:07.860 system at that time um but for the most part you know i've had non-life-threatening issues it's crap i've

00:24:14.820 sat in the emergency room bleeding out uh trying to hold blood inside from uh passing out in the in

00:24:22.580 the waiting room um but i don't know uh do you think we're at the time where this is now entered

00:24:30.340 the politically possible or is this still just too much of a sacred cow i don't know i i hope that you

00:24:36.420 know the thing that has to be done is we gotta chip away at the orthodoxy and maybe the next generation

00:24:40.340 hasn't been as trained at least as we were when we were younger it was always canada has the best

00:24:44.500 system in the world canada has the best system in the world and it's not it's not by any measure

00:24:49.140 any longer not even close it's it's low and it's plummeting uh we want to we've got to become to use

00:24:55.300 the leftist term non-binary let's bring this discussion even non-binary yeah let's bring it out

00:25:02.100 of the there's just the american and canadian systems because that's the narrative they've put together

00:25:06.660 and in reality there's dozens and dozens of universal systems all over the world many if

00:25:11.780 not most of which are outperforming us but we've got to start looking at them i mean we've got to

00:25:16.580 bring that discussion to that why can't we look at the netherlands why can't we look at france why

00:25:20.340 can't we look at singapore can't we look at any other uh system on the planet other than north korea

00:25:26.500 and cuba which are the only other two that ban private healthcare exactly but we need to change

00:25:30.740 that narrative for this to get through so it won't be as controversial we need to have that

00:25:35.060 rational discussion without the screaming of the unions and the rest to say look let's emulate

00:25:39.940 what's working best and bring it here that's a matter of discussion you've been around long enough

00:25:44.180 i'm asking for a lot long enough that's not gonna happen and the punitive aspect from the feds we

00:25:48.660 should turn that around and at least point at yes the canada health act says this but it also

00:25:52.580 initially said the feds were going to cover 50 of our healthcare and they only cover about 20 which is

00:25:57.860 not insignificant if they cut that out of a transfer it's going to hurt the province dearly in health

00:26:02.340 provision if this came to that kind of battle but the feds aren't holding up their side of it either

00:26:07.220 if they think it's affordable for us to maintain this system then they should think they should be

00:26:11.380 able to afford to fund 50 of it and they aren't even close so we've got to take that back to them

00:26:17.460 unfortunately it starts through a leak it starts at the same time that it looks like the the provincial

00:26:22.020 government might have messed up the the the laboratory contracts and things such as that which

00:26:28.020 reduces trust when it comes to these things but uh as i said we welcome the discussion but that's us

00:26:34.260 will the public that's the bigger question anyone from the premier or health minister's office

00:26:38.820 watching you should have just leaked it to us the globe got it anyway you should have just given it

00:26:45.860 to us uh oh i i don't think the globe article was it wasn't terribly unfair oh she's good i mean

00:26:51.380 yeah it was actually it was a fairly fair piece a veteran journalist yeah it wasn't some torqued up

00:26:59.380 hit piece the the world you know the sky is going to fall uh i think it was actually a therapy so i

00:27:04.420 know some of you're going to hate hate on me for uh for that for saying that i you know credit where

00:27:08.420 it's due i think was it was it was fair um all right i think too like you guys have all hit on a

00:27:14.660 very important point i think it's like canada has changed right maybe a long time ago and canada far

00:27:19.300 far away like one that wasn't crippled by a crumbling economy rampant crime and unbridled

00:27:23.860 unregulated international migration maybe there and then a completely public health care system

00:27:27.940 worked but it hasn't worked in this canada our canada for quite some time you know never mind

00:27:31.940 what happened during covet i think that's the other kind of lurking ghoul in all this right

00:27:35.460 covet uh the pandemic has eroded the public's trust in the state health care apparatus collectively

00:27:40.500 i mean i don't think there's really any going back from that yeah also you gotta remember we've

00:27:45.060 imported a ridiculous number of people into this country lately and they have not been propagandized

00:27:51.460 that canada has the great oh actually it's funny the federal government actually is advertising that

00:27:55.940 canada has free healthy hair to migraine they're like come here uh work for not a lot of money so

00:28:02.500 you're also not paying a lot of taxes and enjoy free health care we're advertising free health care

00:28:06.820 free um but they're not coming they haven't spent their life being propagandized with you know this

00:28:13.140 you know canada's got the the crappiest wimpiest myths you know countries are you know some described

00:28:21.140 countries as a group of people with shared myths and stories well we you know we've gotten rid of

00:28:26.420 all the the real ones that we were next down down to and where we have this great universal health

00:28:31.380 the greatest health care system in the world and it's we're peace and order we don't have peace and

00:28:36.340 order in our streets our health care system is dog uh all of these myths that come out of the

00:28:42.340 trudeopian era of trudeau the first they i don't think they have a lot of currency anymore uh present

00:28:50.100 company excluded i think it only holds with segments of the boomers and that's that's about it at this

00:28:58.020 time i i don't think people my age and younger are i think around yeah that's what makes me canadian

00:29:04.740 free great health care yeah and public order and the streets because yeah that's that's what we're

00:29:09.620 getting in this country right now well i don't think anybody would be able to really define what

00:29:13.940 it means to be canadian right now outside of without using not american in some way i think you went to

00:29:18.180 the average canadian on the street all the pillars would have meant to be canadian have eroded and

00:29:21.140 collapsed spectacularly right um i think that one of the best points is all of our doctors are actually

00:29:26.420 leaving to go to these other health care systems they've lost faith in canada systems uh in our

00:29:30.580 political apparatus as a whole i think it's half of canadian youth uh they were in favor of becoming

00:29:35.460 america's 51st state at the at the close of the last election i think that's telling that's our

00:29:38.900 entire future half of our future please no future in canada okay well i'm going to come come to you

00:29:43.700 first on the next one william uh the secret liberal conservative coalition i i say that a little tongue

00:29:51.700 in cheek you know the conservatives were always talking about the the liberal ndp coalition that was a

00:29:58.980 it was strictly speaking a coalition government in the old sense but it was a formal working agreement that

00:30:04.260 i think you could say fairly constitute a coalition of a kind uh the conservatives can do not want to

00:30:10.820 be seen as the successors to the ndp in that coalition we saw how well that worked for the ndp in

00:30:16.100 the last election when they were utterly obliterated didn't even get official party status and had the

00:30:21.460 worst result not just in the history of the ndp and not just in the history of even the ccf but even the

00:30:28.180 precursors to the ccf but they're you know kind of the odd little radical labor party around that they got

00:30:33.620 annihilated the conservatives uh voter base do not want to be seen to be propping up the liberals but

00:30:41.060 they don't want an election right now the polls are not great

00:30:43.940 uh they went into the last election doing pretty well and then obviously kind of blew it

00:30:49.620 that their voter code they got a lot of votes their vote went up but obviously the liberal vote

00:30:54.340 went up even more with the dissolution of the ndp the conservatives wanted to desperately avoid

00:31:00.260 an election the liberals got elizabeth may's vote um but the conservatives had i think two abstentions

00:31:07.060 one was shannon phillips who they said was having a medical procedure or something i don't know i

00:31:15.540 haven't talked to her but often when that's the case if you when that's the case the whips will

00:31:21.700 coordinate and say fine we have someone who has a very serious medical issue then you pair off someone

00:31:27.300 on your side i mean that that's the way these things have gone on for over a hundred years

00:31:33.300 the liberals did not have a similar abstention on their side and i'm not aware of the conservatives

00:31:37.860 making any effort to get one uh but i've not talked to shannon phillips no idea about the actual

00:31:43.700 circumstance but that's that's what's been said the other one was matt generu there's a riddle

00:31:50.580 wrapped inside an enigma of a news story about what actually happened word was he was going to cross

00:31:55.940 the floor to the liberals and then he says no i'm not i'm retiring but i'm not retiring right away

00:32:02.340 doesn't really say what for the whole thing smells i i haven't made heads or tails of it but the thing

00:32:08.420 smells and he didn't vote but he hasn't resigned from parliament yet he has not resigned he is still

00:32:14.180 sitting as a conservative mp and he didn't show up on the budget and then adding to this uh the

00:32:21.300 conservative i think house andrew she was house leader right no it's um what's her name uh lanceman

00:32:29.700 well she's a deputy leader oh house leader yeah okay here's the house leader that's the guy

00:32:36.580 responsible along with the whip for making sure everything going on in the house goes according

00:32:42.100 to plan and everyone's there on time etc he was uh uh found uh on the camera watching parliament you

00:32:50.980 could see him kind of hiding beneath uh behind the those curtains that are behind the back benches in

00:32:58.100 there and uh uh and then i guess when it looked like okay we don't have enough votes to actually defeat

00:33:04.340 the budget and therefore trigger an election then he came out to vote god on the record is voting

00:33:09.460 against um okay guys but i know the conservatives don't like the budget it's not a conservative

00:33:17.300 budget it does cut taxes doesn't really cut spending it's not a great budget uh but they don't want an

00:33:23.620 election uh william i don't know am i just too much of a bloody conspiracy theorist here or did the

00:33:31.380 conservatives intentionally uh not defeat the budget no it reeks to high heaven i think you're

00:33:38.340 banging on i think that this is exactly why uh trump and draining the swamp uh what people call

00:33:42.820 populism nowadays which is really just uh democracy relabeled uh why it all became so popular a decade

00:33:48.660 ago uh corruption abounds uh there appear to be no real alternatives and let's be clear here it wasn't

00:33:53.940 just the conservatives every party participated in the subversion of canada's democracy the ndp the

00:33:58.820 green party everybody was party to the plot and you could even say that this kind of corrupt undemocratic

00:34:04.020 garbage because that is what it is let's call a spade a spade it's what underlies the current

00:34:08.020 incredible popularity of the secessionist movement in alberta i mean even quebec if i understand

00:34:12.420 correctly rumblings are starting and the big problem the major problem is that pierre boliav is

00:34:16.900 either party to it all or powerless against it or at least that's how it looks to everyone in canada

00:34:21.460 and i i think the budget passing and not having an election is ultimately going to be framed or

00:34:25.140 justified as something not good for canada but but what are we really talking about here is a

00:34:28.260 liberal government good for canada no not at all um and and so to me i think the really only recourse

00:34:33.460 is to have the election i mean i know that we don't want it it isn't the right moment but

00:34:36.740 then we turn around we start complaining about how bad things are in canada the only way to fix it only

00:34:40.420 way to get through it is through an election sorry i just we just had a test of the alberta emergency

00:34:47.700 alert system coming through so i believe that in the show let people know it works and that was a lot

00:34:52.340 i thought it was my mic again no then they're gonna see we report it because everyone's gonna

00:34:57.380 got gotten it earlier in the day or at least for alberta watchers um or something yeah corey did

00:35:04.980 they voted against it yeah so it's not like the ndp who stood up voting that you know jake

00:35:09.940 beat sing would stand up and be like there's what this government has failed canadians it sucks it

00:35:15.700 deserves to go and then he stands up and votes yes i'm keeping them in power yes i'm voting for the budget

00:35:21.060 it wasn't that um they voted against the budget they spoke against the budget

00:35:27.380 but they allowed the budget to pass i think that's pretty transparent but for the average

00:35:32.420 you think the average person is this going to get through the average canadian voter that uh

00:35:38.580 the conservatives let it no i think your average canadian doesn't really watch how parliamentary

00:35:44.020 sausage gets made i mean this is done in minority governments it's been done a lot many many times

00:35:49.780 as i said i think the term used to be the parliamentary flu they come along and as you

00:35:54.020 said the whip or the house leader is going to be watching normally the house leader is

00:35:57.220 is more than halfway behind the curtain usually a little more discretion but then suddenly a couple

00:36:02.260 of members get the hershey squirts and vanish until they can't uh pass that vote possibly under any

00:36:08.260 other circumstance and then they get a full recovery and come back uh but this can't go on too too

00:36:13.620 long or they will suffer the fate of jagmeet singh you know you can kick that can down the road

00:36:17.540 because you're in a position to hit an election uh you know and play both sides say that you oppose

00:36:22.340 the budget yet make sure it kind of passes but they will have to try and find themselves or they

00:36:28.180 will get weakened every time this happens so i mean you can't rail and say we're going to bring

00:36:32.100 the government down then carefully make sure that you don't actually do it too many times before

00:36:37.540 you've cried wolf too many times you just look too weak and people will say the same thing they did with

00:36:41.940 the ndp well if the ndp is just going to be liberal i might as well just vote for the liberals and

00:36:46.100 it'll happen that way with the conservatives i think what the conservatives that have to worry

00:36:49.300 about is weakening themselves so much that the liberals feel they can manufacture

00:36:55.860 a loss of confidence and go to the polls and really nail them when they really don't want to go

00:37:00.180 that's what i wanted to ask you nigel was there was some speculation the liberals would have been

00:37:04.660 just happy for the vote uh budget to be voted down get an election they're higher in the polls they're

00:37:09.380 only two seats away from a majority right now because there was one conservative across the floor of

00:37:13.300 liberals um you know they have a de facto majority as we've been saying but it's a tight one and

00:37:20.180 you know you have one grumpy member of caucus he's got leverage over you all of a sudden

00:37:25.140 uh when you have a bigger image if you have an actual majority with some space uh you could afford

00:37:30.580 you could tell them okay yeah well yeah go ahead and vote against the budget we're kicking you out of

00:37:34.980 your riding your political career is done they don't really have that kind of leverage right now

00:37:40.500 uh how much do you think the liberals would have been just fine for this to be defeated go to

00:37:45.460 election oh i think uh yeah they would have they would have come through on it all right the polls

00:37:51.460 seem to indicate that they would have would have had a good start but don't uh everybody gets very

00:37:58.180 focused on this majority well you got one or you maybe you've got a majority of two or whatever

00:38:02.980 stephen harper governed from 2006 to 2011 from a minority position that is not to say that it is fun

00:38:13.780 it is hard work everyone wants a majority everybody wants a majority obviously but you're constantly

00:38:19.300 wheeling and dealing and making arrangements here and in some ways that's kind of good for democracy

00:38:24.740 and you know if you actually have to work things out with the other side the result is not always bad

00:38:31.540 so carney with or without a majority well he did obviously the government will fall on our budget

00:38:39.700 but if he's in a minority position should somebody change their mind you know he can he can still get

00:38:46.020 things done it's been done before many times so um what i do uh deeply deplore is why conservatives are

00:38:58.660 allowing any kind of discussion over the leadership of the peer polyev uh the i mean there's one thing

00:39:06.660 to do it behind closed doors but it's constant sort of jockeying and showing polls and people going on

00:39:11.940 the tellers as well you know he's a i like him but he's actually i don't like him he shouldn't be

00:39:17.220 leader anymore he's had his chance you're gonna work with a guy this is why they're down in the polls

00:39:22.420 is they're not presenting a united front i don't know i it's natural they lost the election they blew

00:39:29.700 a gigantic lead uh i'd say the dissension is pretty mild compared to previous what leaders have faced

00:39:37.060 after previous defeats harper faced more backlash after he lost his first election 2004 but he had

00:39:42.900 made huge gains it was the first election of the united federal conservative party uh they had brought

00:39:48.340 the liberals from a big majority down to a minority um you know in uh you know think of british columbia

00:39:57.220 right now we're not talking about john rustat but you know it'd be just more news broken from our

00:40:01.460 our man jared yager uh our reporter in bc uh more dissension coming there there they're just

00:40:07.700 ripping themselves apart um and that is affecting the polls but i i don't i don't think it's unhealthy

00:40:15.860 for a party i think polyeb is probably the best guy to lead them right now i think conservative

00:40:20.260 members would be well advised to vote to renew his leadership but i i think it's it's healthy for a

00:40:25.860 party to to air this to you know in a civil way after a defeat well let's hope you're right i i with

00:40:35.780 a uh with the leadership review coming up in january there's too many people look like they're trying

00:40:40.820 to position themselves for something well that such is the nature of politics but yeah okay well what

00:40:48.260 depending on that go to our parting shots first parting shot to cory sure i'll start with well just

00:40:53.140 something that surprised me on x it's something i railed about before but i i reminded people that

00:40:59.700 jody gondek and her council of clowns there had renamed fort calgary into the confluence a year and

00:41:05.540 some ago yeah what i mean people were upset with that which is fine but what surprised me was how many

00:41:10.980 people said i didn't realize she'd done that they really slid that one under the radar uh so i've written

00:41:16.820 you know some self-serving things i've written a column in the standard that came out today on that

00:41:21.060 you know what this would be a good start for this council to reverse that ridiculous thing

00:41:25.060 even if it's costly we can't let this erasure of history keep happening rename fort calgary to fort

00:41:31.860 calgary the new mayor council have a chance to do that and set an example for these self-serving ones

00:41:36.420 who have their vanity woke projects you're going to have it reversed if you push it through so just

00:41:40.660 stick to council business and quit renaming crap i actually asked uh jeremy farkas about that uh in an

00:41:46.100 interview uh very soon before the election and he didn't say no but he definitely didn't say yes

00:41:51.940 either saying you know that uh some of the chiefs in the area would consider it a declaration of war

00:41:58.500 uh i i i don't know but i mean uh mayor farkas new council show some balls

00:42:06.340 fort calgary is it is pretty important to the history of calgary and that's what it's always been

00:42:12.100 until a couple of jackasses came around and decided to sanitize the name i don't think it's

00:42:16.980 a particular it's there's no statue of general lee there like for god's sakes it's fort calgary it's

00:42:23.860 the namesake of the city if you're ready to change that the next step will be changing the actual name

00:42:27.700 of the city yeah yeah but you won't be able to pronounce it see the spelling element it'll be a

00:42:32.180 vancouver street yeah yeah okay uh william parting shot cool so as you all know i was recently invited to

00:42:39.460 speak and present my essay uh canada's right when response to a decade of liberal oppression at the

00:42:43.780 toronto democracy forum confronts what everyone in canada the right wing of the political spectrum

00:42:47.780 conservatives in canada been going through over the past decade um we should have the butt as i

00:42:52.100 understand on the western standard website sometime soon um and or y'all can head over to my twitter

00:42:56.980 acts to check it out my handle is will barclay pcbg um please do give it a read um it's being well

00:43:02.580 received so i hope you guys enjoy it nigel yeah yeah so i keep i keep tabs on the bc news and as you

00:43:10.420 bc human rights chief one of these empathetic uh ladies that i was talking about earlier declares

00:43:16.340 that it's colonialist to stigmatize drug use drug use is i guess so legitimate anyway look it's it's just

00:43:28.180 crazy in bc it's not the drugs that are dangerous only the people who notice that they're dangerous

00:43:33.060 are wicked colonialists you know what a weird world the british empire fought several opium wars to make

00:43:39.540 the chinese do drugs we the but the empire fought wars to make sure people are doing their drugs and

00:43:46.740 staying docile uh somehow it's now imperial colonialists or imperialist to say perhaps you should not be

00:43:56.580 addicted to drugs and have a productive yeah that stooped over fentanyl addict is just living his

00:44:01.060 best life and we're not to criticize that that is racist cory all right um just you've already heard

00:44:09.780 it i just gotta get it off my chest the epstein files oh it's coming it's you know what i'm gonna get

00:44:20.420 we're gonna get disappointed somehow somehow no matter what laws get passed i feel like we're just never

00:44:25.220 actually gonna get it i hope i'm wrong uh the democrats did not give a crap about jeff actually

00:44:32.580 no they probably did give a crap they didn't speak a word i should say of jeffrey epstein for four

00:44:36.420 years while biden's in they were silent they were silent about it when trump was in the first time

00:44:40.660 they did not want it out they were silent during four years when they had biden in the white house

00:44:45.220 including when they had majority court control of congress um then all of a sudden they got religion

00:44:52.260 and they wanted out because they saw it was a big divide within the republicans the harder

00:44:56.740 uh you know the more mega side of the republican party wanted this out trump had been campaigning

00:45:02.260 hard i'm gonna release it you know this is a part of draining the swamp we're gonna release the epstein

00:45:06.260 files everyone's gonna get to see everything and me wins and then we got this dog you know this

00:45:13.060 dog and pony show of fake release of files that were already released and don't show very much

00:45:18.180 and then there are no files and then uh maybe there's files but if you want the files you're

00:45:22.740 a traitor to me and traitor mega and i don't want your support and then you had a couple of brave

00:45:28.340 republican members of the house break away decide with the democrats because it's a pretty thin majority

00:45:33.220 they used their leverage they made a power play um and then it started an avalanche and and trump was

00:45:39.460 saying this is just one where he he's just dead wrong and for what reason he's doing this i don't know

00:45:45.220 he's dead wrong and he was saying you know to his closest allies like massey and marjorie taylor

00:45:50.580 green like the people who would take a bullet for trump say they're traitors you call them call her

00:45:55.780 marjorie trader green not a bad nickname but uh very imprecise i think in this case and um and we

00:46:03.300 started an avalanche where you then had a hundred republic more than a hundred republican defectors

00:46:07.940 where they were able to force it to a vote on the floor trump threw up his hands and says actually

00:46:12.820 it's good yeah let's let's actually vote for the bill to release the epstein files and then it was

00:46:17.380 unanimous except for one guy some guy it's one lone republican down in louisiana who voted against it

00:46:24.100 i want to see what's on that guy's hard drive uh and then it's expected to get unanimous support now in

00:46:29.700 the senate theoretically the department of justice is going to be acquired by law to release everything

00:46:37.220 other than like explicit images that should obviously be protected for people's privacy because

00:46:42.580 you know um i don't know i don't know how but i feel like an asteroid is going to come or something

00:46:50.020 and hit congress i something's going to happen to stop us from getting these files i'm not going to

00:46:56.100 believe it until they're in my hands but boy i'm giddy okay sweaty palms yeah you bet okay well that's it

00:47:03.700 gentlemen thank you very much okay nigel cory william who's pleasure jonathan running the studio

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Western Standard - November 22, 2025

THE PIPELINE： Budget Vote： The secret Liberal–Conservative coalition？

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