Western Standard - THE PIPELINE： Canada needs ICE

00:00:00.000 G'day and welcome. I'm Derek Phil DeBrant, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're

00:00:29.380 watching The Pipeline. Today is, the hell is the date, it's the 21st of January. Still

00:00:36.580 getting back into the routine of it. It's actually the first year of my life. I think

00:00:41.040 I've not actually gotten the year wrong once when writing out the date. I'm getting

00:00:47.520 better in my old age. I'm joined by Usuals, former Western Standard opinion editor Nigel

00:00:53.540 Hannaford. Nice to be here. Western Standard news editor Dave Naylor. G'day.

00:00:59.380 And filling in for Corey Morgan on his show and his sled on the pipeline is, uh, it's

00:01:05.440 Lindsay. Hi. Lindsay Wilson. Lindsay Wilson. Your date was changed before. I had a brain

00:01:11.720 fart. Okay. Yeah, I got caught. Uh, all right. Uh, well, we're going to be talking about the

00:01:17.920 new world order as, uh, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney sees it. He, uh, was in China for

00:01:24.720 a trade deal. He gave a speech to the World Economic Forum in Davos, uh, followed today

00:01:30.640 by, uh, by, uh, Donald Trump. Uh, very interesting stuff there. He used the world, new world, word,

00:01:38.420 newer, the term new world order, which is, and then went and flew immediately to, uh, the

00:01:44.180 World Economic Forum. I'm sure that won't set conspiracies, uh, alight. Um, we're going to

00:01:51.480 talk, uh, total recall failure. These big, audacious plans to recall every single member

00:01:59.440 of the UCP in Alberta. Uh, they have failed. Operation Total Recall is a total, total failure,

00:02:07.820 it would appear. Uh, uh, they've, uh, their main target, the education minister, ostensibly,

00:02:13.320 uh, Demetrio Nicolaitis, ostensibly the guy they wanted the most to get, uh, for using

00:02:19.960 all the standing clause, legislating teachers back to work, uh, and also the guy who I think

00:02:24.800 holds the closest, most narrowly won UCP seat in Alberta. They failed to get him in a recall

00:02:30.840 and they failed by about a hundred miles. They didn't even get within screaming distance.

00:02:37.180 Uh, very embarrassing. Uh, but first we are going to start off with why Canada needs

00:02:43.140 ICE. Uh, what does ICE stand for again? Uh, Integration and Customs Enforcement.

00:02:48.340 Yeah. Uh, not a lot of government departments I, I like. Uh, the Rat Patrol in Alberta is

00:02:53.640 one of them. Uh, ICE in the United States, that makes my list too. I, I, I love ICE. I want

00:02:58.960 so much more ICE. Um, I, I think the, the style of the Trump administration, they're, they're

00:03:05.240 hyping things. They put out these edits, they're kind of hype edits. And I think if ICE

00:03:09.000 is actually portrayed by the U.S. government of way more hardcore than it actually is, I

00:03:13.660 think it's probably, for the most part, fairly mundane. But you've got these, uh, protesters,

00:03:19.400 mostly Somali illegals and liberal white women in Minnesota, who, uh, are committing 1.00

00:03:27.400 serious crimes disrupting federal law enforcement from carrying out its lawful duties, uh, resulting

00:03:34.040 in, uh, one woman who did some very inadvisable things and ended up getting herself shot for

00:03:39.680 her trouble, um, uh, just the other week. Um, but it's, uh, it's totally out of control.

00:03:46.840 Now they're attacking churches, literally invading Sunday services during, during service, invading

00:03:54.220 religious services. Uh, they're pulling people out of cars and attacking them. It is total

00:03:59.940 mayhem. Talk of invoking, um, the, uh, the Insurrections Act in the United States. Um, maybe we'll just

00:04:10.300 start with what's happening there and then we'll, then maybe we'll get to why, why Canada should

00:04:15.080 be as cool as ice. Well, I think you, uh, summed up pretty well what is happening there. What

00:04:20.180 you didn't mention, which is highly significant is the role of elected officials in stimulating

00:04:26.140 disorder. When you have the governor of the state, when you have the mayor of the city saying,

00:04:33.500 resist ice, uh, by the way, uh, cover your cell phones, make sure that you, you're not easy

00:04:39.720 to follow. Um, here's, we'll, we'll give you, tip you off where ice is operating. Go there

00:04:45.820 and make a scene. Uh, the Insurrections Act is probably, yeah, you would, you would, that

00:04:52.220 is an insurrection. Uh, and it's astonishing because it's one level of government contending

00:04:57.160 with another. We very, very seldom see that so overtly. Obviously we've seen lots of, uh,

00:05:03.780 resistance among blue states to red, you know, red presidential, uh, uh, uh, government, but

00:05:10.380 very seldom that you actually see that go out and say inciting violence. So as for why, well,

00:05:19.760 you know, there's a massive fraud down there. And when all those tales of that are told,

00:05:24.960 it's probably going to lead back to the governor's office. In which case he has every reason to,

00:05:30.160 to, to distract attention. I mean, this is just in one city. If it works there, I'm sure the people

00:05:37.920 who organized it, and this is organized, it's not a spontaneous eruption, you know, would take the show

00:05:42.820 on the road and see if they could, uh, disrupt elsewhere and provoke a, an overreaction from the

00:05:51.740 Trump administration. Now, the point about all of this really is that why would you not have,

00:06:00.160 an immigration enforcement, if you're a serious country and you have a border, people penetrate

00:06:05.580 the border in not hundreds of thousands, but in millions, they're there illegally, either you're a

00:06:13.140 country or you're not. So you go and get the, uh, and ask them to leave and assist by putting them on

00:06:19.000 a plane. Some of these people are awful people, not all of them, I'm sure, but some of them are

00:06:23.820 really bad. And so I share your appreciation for what ICE is actually trying to do down there. Uh,

00:06:33.740 I think I saw some numbers, uh, yesterday that 2 million people had self-deported from the United

00:06:40.540 States. 665,000 had been removed. That still leaves about 7 and a half million to go. People who,

00:06:50.380 Just from the, uh, Biden era, from just the Biden era. Just the Biden era. Yeah. So walked across the border,

00:06:56.000 which is itself illegal, doing whatever they can to survive. And you can't have that many people

00:07:03.100 walk into a country without having an effect, which brings us to Canada. Um, we are nowhere near as good

00:07:09.840 at keeping track of people as the Americans are, and they certainly struggle with it. But I think the, uh,

00:07:15.380 the, the, the, uh, the number I saw when I was looking all of this up, um, we have undocumented,

00:07:25.460 undocumented population estimates ranging from 600,000 to 1 million as of mid 2025.

00:07:33.140 You, I mean, it's purely speculative when you don't know for sure as to how far this could go,

00:07:39.220 but this is really driven by over a million work permits expiring in 2025 and another 900,000 next

00:07:48.180 this year. Uh, and they, they come here and then they don't go home. Well, they're not the, you know,

00:07:55.980 they're not the rapists, the thugs, the murderers, and so forth that ICE is dealing with in so many

00:08:00.620 places in the United States. Well, the deal's the deal. You give you a visa for two years, you come in,

00:08:05.560 you work, you do whatever you're here to do, and then you go home and reapply if you want to come

00:08:09.880 back. But there is an issue. Canada just never takes this stuff seriously, but it needs to.

00:08:14.520 Well, one of the, uh, Lindsay, one of the, you know, it, the fraud taking place in Minnesota is,

00:08:20.680 I shouldn't say well-documented. It's just becoming known now, you know, the leering center and,

00:08:25.240 you know, the funny stuff we've seen that's costing Minnesota taxpayers an arm and a leg. Uh,

00:08:30.920 it's also voter fraud because, I mean, if you look, you know, look, let's put the map up on the screen.

00:08:38.280 Um, the states that require ID to vote versus the states that do not require ID to vote.

00:08:45.880 You notice any overlap in how those states vote? States that do not require identification to vote

00:08:52.120 overwhelmingly vote Democrat. States that require ID to vote overwhelmingly vote Republican.

00:08:57.240 And the ones where it's a little mixed about where you, how you need to vote, they tend to be swing

00:09:01.640 states. Um, you can't like, there is by some estimates, uh, Minnesota could lose a whole

00:09:10.600 congressional district with the deportations going on. And the deportations are actually

00:09:14.840 not that extreme as Nigel went through the numbers. This is, they've actually only deported 300,000

00:09:20.360 people. That's a very small fraction of the illegals, uh, that are estimated to have come through

00:09:26.520 during just the four Biden years, uh, where it was quite explicitly welcomed, uh, for people to come

00:09:32.360 in, where they actually cracked down on say Texas for actually trying to defend the US border. Um,

00:09:37.960 it's, it's voter fraud. Uh, that's one reason I think these Democrat politicians are so intent

00:09:42.680 on, uh, defending, uh, stopping deport, deportations of illegals is that they need them to vote.

00:09:49.640 Uh, and in states that don't require a voter ID, well, they're just taking their word for it. You're

00:09:54.520 telling me that, you know, the guy running the leering center, uh, would, uh, think twice about

00:10:00.520 casting a ballot without being a citizen? I don't think so.

00:10:04.760 I mean, I just want to jump in here and just say, uh, I know a lot of really great hardworking

00:10:09.320 immigrants and every immigrant that I speak to, who's come here to Canada through legal channels,

00:10:16.360 they are the biggest proponents for protecting the borders. They have escaped regimes. They have

00:10:22.120 escaped communism. They have escaped, uh, dictatorships and they've come here to work

00:10:27.160 hard, build a better life for their children. They don't want this country to turn into what

00:10:31.640 they ran away from in the first place. I am the daughter of a refugee from communism. And I grew up

00:10:37.720 with all of the horror stories and they're not stories. They were the truths of what really happened.

00:10:42.200 And so I think we have to, you know, we, we let the left really turns this into a big culture war.

00:10:47.640 You have to protect your borders as a country. That's not being racist. That's not being against,

00:10:53.160 that's not trying to ethnically cleanse a culture or a country, right? And you have to have voter ID.

00:10:59.160 It's insane. You guys, it's insane to think that we don't have to have voter ID. That should just,

00:11:03.720 that shouldn't even be a left or right issue.

00:11:05.160 I forget who said it, but someone put it, well, uh, some, some lefty was saying, uh, voter ID is racist.

00:11:09.560 How, uh, you know, this is, this is, this is racist. Someone replied with a great remark says,

00:11:14.440 just pretend it's a, uh, a vaccination, uh, passport. Right. But everything's, everything's racist.

00:11:21.000 You're trying to buy a sandwich. Right. Exactly.

00:11:23.880 Speaking of racist, the, uh, the other person not coming well out of this is, uh, our friend,

00:11:28.840 Don Lemon, who, uh, who, uh, stormed a friend in quotation marks, who stormed into that church in Minnesota.

00:11:38.200 And then, and, uh, later, uh, broadcasts, uh, said all those people in there were not real

00:11:43.480 Christians. And in fact, were white supremacists, uh, and which basically at the end of the day,

00:11:48.440 it caused one of the greatest laughs I've ever heard coming out of Derek, Derek's office.

00:11:53.320 And I'll let him explain why.

00:11:55.080 Oh, what did I do about when he was being charged?

00:11:57.560 Oh, yeah. Okay. So he's being charged, uh, you know, for invading a church. Uh, there's something

00:12:03.400 called, you know, you know, America, they've created names for their legislation. This one's

00:12:06.520 called like the KKK act or something. Cause you know, black churches would be targeted by,

00:12:11.480 uh, by some unpleasant people, uh, like the clown. And so it's called the KKK act. 0.99

00:12:17.240 And so he, Don Lemon, a black guy is charged under the KKK act on MLK day. Martin Luther King

00:12:25.080 shooter today. Like the, um, I mean, sometimes the universe just comes together. You know,

00:12:34.760 God doesn't often just reveal himself to us, but sometimes he gives us pretty strong hints that he

00:12:39.560 is real and works in this world. You gotta wonder why Lemon inserted himself into that situation.

00:12:46.280 I mean, he's professionally, he's on the down track anyway, but this, I think he just wants to

00:12:51.160 try and be relevant again anyway, kid. Well, I, I guess, you know, these kinds of people think

00:12:55.560 that the lit this legislation should only target the other and maybe traditionally it only has

00:13:00.680 that it should target, uh, a Klansman coming into a black church, but they don't think that the same

00:13:06.600 law would apply to a black man invading a church with white people in it. I don't, I don't, I'm sure 0.99

00:13:12.920 there was probably others in it. I don't know. I, I haven't seen the congregation of the church,

00:13:17.560 but he just seems to think that law wouldn't apply to him. No, if a bloody whale does, uh,

00:13:22.360 maybe traditionally there's been governments that just wouldn't apply it to him, but it

00:13:26.200 seems pretty reasonable here. It was, that was, it was chef's kiss good. Um, but you know, Dave,

00:13:32.360 there's, there seems to be zero appetite from Canada's federal government for any kind of similar

00:13:38.200 enforcement. They're just relying on people who were let in on into the Trudeau years, uh, saying,

00:13:44.440 well, you're supposed to, uh, you're supposed to go home. I mean, it's got about as much teeth as

00:13:49.400 the recently announced federal gun grab or, you know, uh, everyone got, all the licensed gun owners

00:13:54.680 in Canada got this, this letter in the mail from the government saying, thank you for not using your

00:13:59.960 prohibited firearms during this period. Uh, please kindly hand them in to Papa Carney.

00:14:05.240 Uh, is there 25? How many did they yield? I think they got 25 guns. And that is out of like Cape

00:14:11.960 Britain where people are relatively more deferential to the government. And how much did it cost to

00:14:16.520 implement this whole gun grab? They spent millions on it. Millions. There's one taxpayer at the end

00:14:21.240 of the day. Yeah. So, I mean, it's got about as much teeth as that. Thankfully, uh, you know,

00:14:25.560 instead of setting government door to door and go round up the guns of lawful, you know, uh, peaceful

00:14:31.960 gun owners. Uh, so that's obviously not hard, but in Canada, you know, our, our whole plan to get rid 1.00

00:14:37.240 of all of these people who are now here illegally because we let them in legally temporarily. Um, 0.98

00:14:43.240 I think Trudeau was planning on, they were just going to be here permanently. They're here under a

00:14:46.920 temporary visa to work, but, uh, there was a big wink, wink, nudge, nudge that you are going to be 0.88

00:14:51.400 here, uh, uh, uh, permanently go to some, uh, diploma mill, get a bullshit degree, uh, or, sorry, 0.99

00:14:57.720 diploma in something that you didn't have to show up for class, get your bullshit diploma from a diploma 1.00

00:15:02.840 mill. Uh, you know, after a couple of years, you get permanent, permanent, uh, permanent 0.99

00:15:07.720 residency and then citizenship. There was kind of a wink, wink, nudge, nudge. So they didn't even

00:15:11.560 bother tracking, tracking these people. We've just asked them to go. And yeah, I'm sure some

00:15:16.760 have probably gone. Um, but we've got no idea. We haven't, we have nothing like ice in Canada

00:15:22.440 to, uh, to crack down. According to the, uh, the facts revealed in the investigation, we've lost

00:15:28.120 track of 30,000 who actually, uh, are wanted for deportation orders as opposed to merely a little

00:15:35.480 student from somewhere who's been pulling coffee for the last two years. You probably aren't that

00:15:41.480 interested in her, but there are some bad dudes out there that we were interested. They're deportation 0.98

00:15:46.600 orders. We don't know where they are to enforce the orders. Well, you know, I want those guys gone

00:15:51.800 first, but actually I do care about the person who's just been, you know, pouring coffee for two years

00:15:56.840 because we've flooded the labor market. We've created this underclass of people or people born 0.99

00:16:01.320 in this country can't get entry-level jobs now. It does matter. We've distorted the labor market.

00:16:06.440 We've taken away people's birthright. It actually does. And we can't, there's just no way any

00:16:11.320 society can integrate this number of people from an alien culture. You can't do it. There's just too 1.00

00:16:15.800 many. So yeah, I mean, there is the big fish to fry and they should be the first ones. There's 30,000

00:16:21.160 we want for criminals. We've lost track of it.

00:16:24.120 In theory, I completely agree with you, but there's one particular one who does pour coffee,

00:16:28.360 who my son wants to marry. So I want, I want her here. Okay. We're allowed to be a little bit

00:16:36.200 particular. I got my exceptions on my list too.

00:16:38.600 29,999. Let's round them up and ship them out.

00:16:41.720 I've got people on my, uh, do not deport list as well.

00:16:44.600 Okay, good. Yeah. All right. Um, well, let's, we'll zoom it out. Uh, I guess it's Canada and the States again.

00:16:53.800 Um, so, uh, Kanye was in China, uh, for trade talks. Um, I mean, it's something we should always be

00:17:03.640 pretty leery of because China is a pretty hostile actor. Uh, it's notoriously been involved in our 0.94

00:17:09.320 elections, uh, intimidation of Chinese Canadians, uh, manipulation, manipulating them. It's, it's 1.00

00:17:16.680 something we need to be on guard on, but you know, under the Trudeau government, Canada had opposed a

00:17:21.560 hundred percent tariff on electrical vehicles coming into Canada that was designed to make

00:17:26.920 Doug Ford happy to protect the not yet really existent EV battery and EV manufacturing industry

00:17:33.720 in Ontario subsidized with endless billions of both Ontario and federal taxpayer dollars.

00:17:41.080 Uh, I think it works out to something like $5 million of taxpayer subsidies per job. It's,

00:17:47.160 it's worse than Bombardier. Like it's, it's sickening how subsidized these things are. So

00:17:51.880 it's an industry that I don't think the laws of economics agrees should exist. Um, but China 0.91

00:17:59.880 in retaliation slept a huge tariff on, uh, uh, Canadian canola, uh, beef and, uh, pork,

00:18:10.360 which are particularly important to the West, especially, uh, canola, canola and beef, but pork

00:18:15.480 as well. So the West, Western Canada was being penalized to support an industry on Ontario that

00:18:20.040 doesn't even really exist and exists only by a combination of tariffs and massive, massive subsidies.

00:18:26.440 Uh, Carney went to China and got a deal. Yes. Yes. Yes, he did. Uh, much to the, uh,

00:18:36.600 disgust of, uh, Doug Ford, uh, who today called for, uh, all Canadians to boycott, uh, Chinese

00:18:42.840 electrical vehicles, even though they'll be a lot cheaper than, uh, the ones, the ones built here. And

00:18:48.360 he got on his, uh, plane and flew to, uh, United Arab Emirates, signed some memorandum of

00:18:54.200 a understanding there and then flew into the WEF where again, he took center stage to talk about

00:19:00.680 his version of the new world order, said the old world order is gone. It's not coming back. Stop

00:19:06.760 being, uh, sentimental and, and nostalgic and urged the, uh, the, uh, the non-major countries of which

00:19:14.760 Canada would be one, uh, to get together to protect themselves from the major countries.

00:19:20.440 And we of course know he's talking about the United States there and their grand plans.

00:19:25.400 Uh, speech went down in liberal circles. It was the best speech since, uh, Winston Churchill was alive.

00:19:33.400 I would argue that it goes beyond liberal circles. I'm, I'm really amazed at how many people are just

00:19:37.160 stunned at his, at his charisma. I mean, the guy can talk and, and it's very distracting because,

00:19:43.400 well, it's identity politics are what they are. And I think the conservatives are in a little bit of trouble.

00:19:47.640 Well, I disagree with, I disagree with you about charisma because every second word is, uh, uh,

00:19:53.560 yeah, but it's a change to have a Canadian leader who's intelligent, uh, who's up.

00:19:58.600 I don't dispute that.

00:20:00.360 It is being dubbed as a powerful speech.

00:20:02.200 Look where the bar has been set. I mean, uh, I, I was talking to some normies yesterday and who are not

00:20:09.400 very liberal friendly, uh, but they're not, you know, total red pilled off the wall red wing.

00:20:15.960 And, and, you know, they're like, yeah, I don't agree with everything he said, but I mean, it was,

00:20:20.760 it was refreshing to hear a Canadian prime minister say something that wasn't retarded. 1.00

00:20:26.760 Well, the bar was very low. The bar was very low. 0.85

00:20:30.360 You've said the bar is so low that if you come in with your pants on to the podium, I guess the

00:20:34.680 borrow phrase for Corey tonight, back to the 2015 debate, a prime minister shows up with his pants

00:20:39.240 on for a major speech. He's exceeding a bar here. So, uh, I think he did well. Uh, you know, let's play the,

00:20:46.760 the tiny clip here where he talks about the new world order.

00:20:49.960 And I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world order.

00:21:02.840 Okay. So that was not, um, a part of prepared remarks. I think that was actually in China where

00:21:09.960 he said it. Uh, you could tell he's just kind of speaking off the cuff. He's like new world order and

00:21:15.640 halfway through the word order, he realizes, oh shit, I just said new world order. That's, 0.99

00:21:20.520 that's going to set some people's spidey senses tingling. Uh, the memes are coming. Yeah.

00:21:26.040 I'm not sure that that is a part of a grand plan or anything there. Uh, I think that's more of,

00:21:32.760 well, there is a new order to the world very clearly taking place. You can argue maybe it's

00:21:36.520 a return to a much older order. The, uh, you know, pre second world war order of great power,

00:21:43.880 politics, real politics, uh, or even pre world war one, you can argue that, but it is a new world

00:21:50.360 order. There's new world order, small caps. And then there's new world order, big caps as a noun,

00:21:57.000 uh, it can mean different things, but yeah, then he takes off to the world economic forum, Nigel.

00:22:02.840 Uh, I mean, the combination of those things, uh, China, new world order, world economic forum, 0.96

00:22:10.040 uh, it, it makes for an eyebrow raising, Max. Well, it certainly does to the, uh,

00:22:16.360 to the point of the speech from the technical point of view, it was a good speech. It followed

00:22:23.560 the classic Aristotelian laying out of, you know, introducing yourself, laying out your facts,

00:22:29.560 making the argument and so forth and arousing, uh, arousing ending. So in that sense, it was good.

00:22:36.280 And if you were a part of that very small percentage of people whose conversation is about

00:22:43.160 variable geometry, uh, hegemons and hyperscalers, value-based realism, plural, plural lateral trade,

00:22:51.800 all the kinds of things that we talk about when we're just having coffee and wasting time,

00:22:55.160 you know, you, you probably found that highly illuminating and something to really think about.

00:23:00.120 But there's one thing about that, uh, and again, this is, in some ways, this, this is a product of the,

00:23:08.200 of the good intentions that went into preparing this speech, which I suspect is Mr. Carney's personal

00:23:15.000 speech, not a speechwriter prepared thing. Um, but you know, he starts off talking about the, the United

00:23:24.680 States kicking over this old world order. That's never going to come back. Well,

00:23:32.760 Russia and China kicked over the world order that had emerged after the second world war, 0.98

00:23:39.400 but 30 years ago, um, what is it about the United States that it becomes the country that has to

00:23:48.600 uphold this world order that nobody else pays attention to and which the people that it benefits,

00:23:56.040 Canada being among the first of them, uh, don't seem to want to pay for it. Uh, that he did not

00:24:04.040 address. There, he should have talked about what our obligations are. He spoke for quite a while about

00:24:12.280 what we were going to do, but we've never done it in 50 years. Patrolling the argument, not patrolling the

00:24:18.280 Arctic, you know, we have a satellite that looks down on it and I see something fishy. They tell the

00:24:25.080 Americans, they tell the Americans, you know, I mean, no, I, I know that was kind of a, an injection

00:24:30.680 of sarcasm, but the actual fact, we don't even shoot down balloons, you know? So like it was heavy on

00:24:38.600 the, uh, it really was a deceptive speech, uh, for all that it was a good speech. And I can see the

00:24:46.120 people who don't think about things very much. Ooh, he did do well. You know, everybody clapped.

00:24:51.160 They gave him a standing ovation. Well, Harper got a standing ovation. Everybody gets a standing ovation.

00:24:55.880 I don't, I don't think Trump did. Well, possibly not. But I tell you what,

00:25:00.760 Trump was on message when he said, Canada is not grateful. We don't pull our weight. I would be all

00:25:06.760 for a Canadian government that would. Mr. Carney says he's that government, but frankly, I don't believe him.

00:25:12.840 Well, if you're getting a standing ovation at the World Economic Forum, you're probably

00:25:16.200 doing something wrong. But, uh, yeah, I, I think we're saying prove it, prove it.

00:25:21.800 Yeah, but look, a lot of words out of this guy. I think Trump is not necessarily destroying.

00:25:27.480 He is knocking over the existing world order, but I think he recognizes it's already dead.

00:25:32.360 It's, uh, it's running on the fumes, uh, it's running on the fumes of legacy and it's being paid for and

00:25:39.320 underwritten by America. I think he recognizes it's already done. You have had the incredible economic

00:25:45.640 miracle from a Chinese perspective of China. You have Russia becoming recovering confidence and

00:25:51.880 reasserting itself after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Um, and Europe in right, right now,

00:26:01.240 before our eyes, essentially ceasing to become European. So like losing that shared sense of

00:26:06.280 history and civilization, Europe is about to become something totally different, no longer a reliable

00:26:11.800 civilizational partner. So everything is changing already. I think he just sees, he sees this and says,

00:26:18.840 I want to cash out. This is the show's already over a lot of, you know, it's like if you've seen

00:26:23.400 the movie margin call, he knows something that the other guys don't. And so he, he's, um, uh,

00:26:31.720 he's betting against, he's betting against the market and to try to cash out decouple America from

00:26:36.840 these institutions, from its liabilities while we can. And in this new world order, uh, you know, the,

00:26:44.440 the, the strong take what they will and the weak suffer what they may exhibit Greenland.

00:26:51.800 Right. It was when he quoted Thucydides to launch his speech that I thought, Oh,

00:26:59.080 this is good. Oh, I, if, if I had ever prepared a speech for Harper with a line like that,

00:27:06.600 um, he would not have used it.

00:27:08.440 Greenland is perhaps the one country in the world. Even Canada could have taken.

00:27:11.480 Yeah. Barely, but we maybe could have pulled off Greenland.

00:27:14.840 Well, we've got more Doug Deans than they do. So that's a, uh, I'm sure you're right there.

00:27:19.080 Yeah. But look, the Yanks owe $38 trillion. The interest on that $38 trillion is more than what

00:27:25.960 they spent on their military. They have got a very big financial problem. And just to expect the

00:27:31.480 Americans to carry on paying the freight for Western security, it's time everybody else stepped up. 0.89

00:27:37.960 But it was not even just that. I think Trump is now fine to let NATO die because NATO had shared

00:27:46.040 security interests and it was a shared civilization. It was essentially the main block of, uh, Western

00:27:53.240 countries and Europe, uh, is essentially ceasing to become Western right now. This is not a theoretical

00:28:00.280 thing. It is not down the road. It's right now ceasing to become Western. And so at that point,

00:28:06.760 well, if, and it's, and it's scarcely democratic, if you know, if you look in, uh, Britain, Germany,

00:28:11.960 any of these countries, you'd be jailed for offensive tweets or criticizing government officials.

00:28:16.840 Uh, so they, they no longer share civilization in common. They no longer share values around free

00:28:22.920 speech. Uh, so this leaves America without any real, um, connection to it. So Europe is going to now do its

00:28:34.040 own thing. It is probably going to go under in my lifetime. Europe is almost certainly going under.

00:28:38.840 So why should America underwrite it? Maybe, maybe you can argue it had an interest to do so during the

00:28:44.520 Cold War. And during that time, European countries did pay more for the military, still less than the

00:28:48.200 States. They needed the States to keep the Soviets out. But at this point, what interest does America 0.50

00:28:53.720 have an actually cropping up Europe? Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. I regret the passing of the,

00:28:59.560 the old order, but, uh, sometimes you've got to face the fact that we have not done what we needed

00:29:06.760 to do to preserve it. We have relied upon the Americans and those days have done. So I have, 0.86

00:29:13.960 you know, I was waiting with the phone in my hand for Trump to land into the artery bin and

00:29:19.000 Davos and sort of just to say, well, here I am. Oh, this is, but he didn't. I can't imagine why.

00:29:26.920 Yeah. Okay. Well, let's, uh, bring it closer to home here. Uh, Lindsay, uh, so we have, you know,

00:29:35.560 there was the big teacher strike. The teachers are offered a pretty fantastic deal. I was actually

00:29:40.200 quite angry at the UCP for offering them as much as they did, uh, far above raises, far above what

00:29:46.200 people in the private sector are getting. Uh, and of course, if you're a teacher, unless you diddle

00:29:51.000 a kid, you've got job security for life pretty much. Uh, and even then the ATA will defend you

00:29:55.400 to keep your, uh, diddling job. So, um, the, but they just, they, they were not negotiating.

00:30:03.720 The UCP legislated them back to work and used the notwithstanding clause to essentially court,

00:30:08.920 challenge, proof it. It's done. Uh, the unions lost their minds and they say, well,

00:30:14.520 we're launching a recall against every single member, uh, who voted for that back to work

00:30:20.200 legislation, which is every single member of the UCP. And, uh, target number one was the

00:30:26.680 education minister, Demetrio Nicolaitis, uh, Calgary Bow. Calgary Bow was either the absolute

00:30:32.120 closest or damn near about the absolute closest constituency in the last Alberta election.

00:30:38.680 The UCP very narrowly won it, uh, against the NDP. So if they were going to have a chance

00:30:45.240 anywhere in Alberta, it was going to be Calgary Bow against Demetrio Nicolaitis.

00:30:52.200 Update us on how well that's gone. Yeah. It hasn't gone so well. So, well,

00:30:56.120 depends on what side that you're on, certainly, but you know, when this, I, some of us were really

00:31:00.440 busy with the municipal election that you may have heard about in the fall. And, uh, you know,

00:31:04.680 when this first came out, I thought, Oh, UCP is in trouble. Like this is bad news, blues, right? I

00:31:10.120 mean, there is, there are gathering, there's, there's marches, there's, it didn't look good at

00:31:16.520 all for the UCP, but timing is everything in politics. And this has blown up. Like this has

00:31:24.360 blown up like, like a Led Zeppelin, like an atomic bomb. This has blown up for the NDP because it became

00:31:31.000 so angry and so vitriolic so quickly. And they fell so short. So there's 26 recalls,

00:31:38.600 recall campaigns. And the only one that I think probably from the UCP's perspective that they

00:31:44.120 were legitimately worried about was the education minister with Demetrius Nicolaitis. And that's

00:31:48.840 fallen, that date has now passed, right? They were, they, they needed to reach the 60% threshold.

00:31:53.560 And what did they get to?

00:31:54.680 And, and they, I, I actually, we'd have to look up the numbers, but they were very,

00:31:58.920 they were thousands short. 6,500, they got 16,000 they needed.

00:32:03.000 Yes. 10,000 short.

00:32:05.400 I mean, that's not just like, Hey, good effort guys. Right? Like that's like,

00:32:08.840 this was a total bomb, total failure. And I mean, let's be honest about the true cost to

00:32:13.320 the taxpayer, right? Like it costs a lot of money if these recalls even went through. So

00:32:17.720 there's a bit of an irony here, right? Like recall legislation is UCP legislation. And it did backfire

00:32:23.000 on them initially in the sense that, you know, it gave their opponents this big megaphone,

00:32:26.920 but it also acted as the real world stress test. So, and the law held and recalls hard,

00:32:31.240 and that's probably by design. So the problem for the NDP is they really overestimated

00:32:38.120 how transferable this union anger would be to the general electorate and the timing's really bad for

00:32:44.040 them. You know, if this was like minutes away from, from a set date provincial election, I would say,

00:32:49.960 you know, the conservatives would have been in a lot more trouble, but there's so much time to rebuild

00:32:53.720 between now and whether it's this coming fall or whether it's in 2027, there's so much time to

00:32:58.840 rebuild. And this just looks like a bunch of angry union activists. And it doesn't even look like

00:33:05.400 the grassroots had anything to do with this. So I think, I think it shows a lot. So this, this showed

00:33:12.280 that there was intensity without reach, that there's loud activism that just didn't translate beyond a

00:33:17.080 very narrow base. And it's, it's a good news story for the UCP. And it's all what they do with this.

00:33:22.440 I do want to say a little bit in defensive teachers. I want to say that I'm, I'm a huge proponent for

00:33:28.200 choice in education, right? I believe the funding, funding follows the student. There's a lot of

00:33:32.760 misconceptions out there that, you know, this funding, private education funding, like there's no,

00:33:40.200 it doesn't cost, there's no tuition for you, like there's school fees, but there's no tuition for you to go to

00:33:44.840 charter schools. The reason that charter schools and independent schools, and as a parent who has

00:33:49.320 one public, one in Catholic and one in independent school, I will tell you which one hands down is

00:33:53.880 the best school. And that is the independent school. Is that just, is that your situation?

00:33:58.120 That is, I have one each. I truly do. I had to pull one from the Catholic program, not against the Catholic

00:34:04.600 institution, but I, my, my child has some unique challenges where she needed some more supports and

00:34:09.800 she needed to be in a different kind of program. The, these independent schools are phenomenal. 0.91

00:34:15.720 I am not a wealthy person. And there's this stigma that still, still, still the advocates

00:34:22.360 can't break through that independent schools, charter schools are for the wealthy. They aren't,

00:34:26.280 most of the students are not wealthy. They're not from wealthy families. So let's just, let's just

00:34:32.200 refer to, just very quickly. Let's refer, we're not talking about charter schools.

00:34:35.800 No, we're not. But anyways, that's the anger machine that comes behind this. So let's have a

00:34:40.120 little bit of compassion for, yes, we know that schools are overcrowded. We know teachers need

00:34:44.120 more resources, not necessarily more pay. They got that right off the hop. But at the end of the day,

00:34:48.760 this comes down to big federal immigration problems where there's hordes of people coming 0.98

00:34:53.080 into this province and all of our systems are strained. So if you want to blame somebody,

00:34:56.920 maybe don't necessarily blame the UCP government and maybe look to the federal policies that

00:35:00.760 and now it lies to happen. So back to recall. The one wearing the big clown suit and all this

00:35:11.960 is Gil McGowan. When, when the teachers were ordered back to work, he blew a gasket.

00:35:17.880 He called press conferences, general strike, general strike. He's getting, he's talking to all his union's

00:35:23.160 going to be a general strike, going to overthrow the government. And it was some pretty slick recall

00:35:28.200 stuff. But you know, I got handed in my mailbox, printed out stuff and it wasn't cheap. And it was

00:35:34.040 all, I'm sure AFL money. I'm sure if you're a union person, you're not overly thrilled with the way your

00:35:40.120 dues have been spent on this. Allegedly. Allegedly. But if you're, you know, he, he, he played in,

00:35:48.520 he went all in, he went all in on this and he was confident and it's just blown up in his face.

00:35:54.360 And it was a, it was a dismal failure. I think as we've been predicting here since day one.

00:36:00.200 Yeah. Now if there is anything they get out of it, it's that, uh, now the NEP is denied they had

00:36:05.800 anything to do with this. Okay. Sure. Um, but it's, you know, it's kind of like the independence

00:36:12.200 movement. The independence movement is not the UCP, but you know, in the Venn diagram of the

00:36:16.680 individuals involved, it overlaps a lot, right? So, uh, the NEP has claimed it was not involved.

00:36:24.120 Yes. On an official organizational level, I'm sure Nenshi was not saying, okay, go knock on these doors

00:36:29.640 here, but on the personnel level, it's the same people. Um, but there is something they do get out

00:36:37.160 of this. You are mobilizing organizations of volunteers in advance of a campaign and you're

00:36:44.040 building lists of identify, identifiable voters. So if someone's willing to sign a recall campaign

00:36:49.000 against the UCP MLA, there is a strong likelihood that they are at least open to voting for the NDP

00:36:55.000 or not for the UCP in the next election. So there is something to be gotten out of this, out of these,

00:37:00.760 out of these failed campaigns. If you say you did an, uh, a citizen's initiative referendum petition,

00:37:06.120 same kind of thing. Even if you didn't hit your threshold, you're building lists, you're building

00:37:09.640 organization, you're raising money. Someone's getting, someone's raising, someone's getting paid

00:37:14.760 out of this. So, I mean, there, there is some political and electoral benefit out of it. Uh,

00:37:21.080 I, we're not seeing the kind of egg on face that one would expect if the legacy media was being fair

00:37:28.200 and even, even keeled about this kind of thing. You know, it was front page news over and over and over.

00:37:33.960 Hey, Danielle Smith is being recalled in her writing. Guys, I know Brooks. She ain't getting

00:37:39.000 recalled. It's not bloody happening. I mean, but it is newsworthy that, you know, the camp, you know,

00:37:44.520 those petitions were being started and it's newsworthy, but this was front page headline

00:37:48.440 everywhere. It seems to be getting downplayed quite a bit, Nigel, uh, now that these things are

00:37:54.920 epically failing. Yes. Well, of course there is a tendency within the news media to look for patterns

00:37:59.880 and events. So if, uh, Demetrius Nicolaitis is getting recalled, this person is getting recalled.

00:38:06.200 Oh, we've got a, we've got a momentum here. There's something, Daniel Smith is getting recalled.

00:38:10.360 It's everywhere. Okay. And then all of a sudden it isn't, then the story falls apart and they leave

00:38:15.400 it alone. I mean, it happens in so many different fields and some of them aren't political. Um,

00:38:22.280 but, uh, are we talking about media bias here or are we talking about...

00:38:25.880 I'm just saying how the media started the recall campaigns, but, uh, I mean, they, they've failed

00:38:31.240 tremendously. Uh, yet there, there's egg on their face, but they're not, they're not getting the

00:38:36.120 kind of, uh, embarrassment that they probably deserve for failing in every single riding.

00:38:40.600 I think that, I think this is actually very promising for the UCP, uh, for all the obvious

00:38:46.440 reasons, but also for this other reason, they have been the subject of a propaganda attack now for

00:38:54.200 more than a year with the unions and the medical associations relentlessly broadcasting their

00:39:02.360 opinions about the way that the Smith government is handling health. You can't turn on the local

00:39:09.400 radio here without it'll be a message from the nurses or it'll be a message from the doctors.

00:39:15.080 And it's consistently anti-Smith. Nobody speaks up for them.

00:39:18.120 The truth of the matter is that it's an incredibly, uh, difficult file, which they all know,

00:39:25.640 and that the Smith government has made some important changes of policy, which they also

00:39:31.960 know and deeply regret because it's their ox that's getting bored. The public doesn't really

00:39:37.000 get into it that deeply. So my point on this is that if the public didn't respond to the recall

00:39:43.720 campaigns in what was it? 21, 22, 26, 26, if the public in 26 marginal seats is not responding

00:39:53.480 to a recall, a campaign, I have some hopes that they are going to ignore this relentless propaganda,

00:40:02.040 which is very misleading and not to the, uh, not to the advantage of the UCP. UCP is going to have

00:40:08.440 all the problems they want. Well, I remember their stated objective was the recall. Every single MLA who

00:40:13.160 voted, uh, to legislate the teachers back to work. So that's 50 odd, 53, something, something like

00:40:19.160 that. Uh, every single one, they got petitions certified, which doesn't take a lot, but they

00:40:23.880 got petitions certified at 20 odd. And in the very, very, the one that they had the very best chance,

00:40:30.200 when I, I admit, even I thought maybe they'd have a chance because it was such a closed marginal

00:40:33.880 seat and he's the education minister. They got blown out of the water. And also like,

00:40:41.080 how hard is it to get someone to sign a petition? Like, you know, people, Canadians are so polite.

00:40:46.600 Hey, would you sign this petition? Sure. What's it about? I don't know. Whatever you, you're out

00:40:52.360 here in the cold and you know, you're working off. I'll sign your petition. That's a lot of people

00:40:57.400 saying, ah, you trigger, trigger, right? Like, do you care about kids? Do you care about, I think,

00:41:01.480 can we just touch on the fire start of this whole thing, which is the notwithstanding clause or the use

00:41:05.320 of it? And there was, there's so much out there and, and maybe you, the UCP could have perhaps

00:41:10.360 done a little bit better of a job at communicating how and why they used it. Right? So at the end of

00:41:15.640 the day, my general understanding of this is the, they used it because like, I mean, our kids were

00:41:20.760 out of school for what, three, four weeks of this, it was a ludicrous amount of time. It was very

00:41:24.920 difficult to juggle that period for most parents. I know myself included, but the government said,

00:41:29.480 listen, if we don't use this, this is going to get tied up in courts forever and cost a boatload

00:41:34.360 of money. So they implemented that and very quickly, just some quick stats for people to

00:41:38.360 keep in mind. And this comes from my friends at the Alberta Parents Union. When it comes to

00:41:41.960 the direct impacts on children from prolonged strikes, lower immediate test scores, increased

00:41:47.480 absenteeism, reduce the lifelong education students attempt to receive, harm lifelong earnings for

00:41:53.560 students and hurt immediate earnings for the family of the student. It's incredibly disruptive.

00:41:59.000 We learned all this through the pandemic era. Teachers need to be in the classroom with

00:42:02.760 our kids and the government really, I don't think they had any other choice.

00:42:05.960 Yeah. Okay. All right. That's it for there. We'll put a pin in our main headlines,

00:42:11.400 go to our parting shots. Lindsay, is this your very first time on the pipeline?

00:42:14.760 This is the second time you pulled me in really quick. Last time I subbed in for Corey.

00:42:17.720 Okay. So last year, but we didn't have parting shots then. So this is your first parting shot.

00:42:20.920 So you get to go first. Oh man. I think I'm going to circle it back to what I talked

00:42:26.600 about on the show earlier today, which is just... That's not the parting shots. It's okay.

00:42:30.520 Parting shots. Okay. What is the parting shot? It's okay. Well, here, we'll go first.

00:42:34.280 Okay. Let's keep going. It's something we didn't talk about. Okay.

00:42:36.840 It's something we didn't talk about. Let me show. Let me, let me hear you.

00:42:39.320 My parting shot. I was on the cruise of the internet this morning. I came across Michelle

00:42:45.000 Rempel on X and I felt like people, people need to hear this. So look, Carney's speech invoked the words of

00:42:52.520 Vaclav Havel in that book, The Power of the Powerless. We can do politics and we pick up on Havel.

00:43:01.080 And the anecdote goes that Mr. Carney cited Havel's greengrocer who refused to display the regime's

00:43:08.440 propaganda sign to argue that Canada and the other middle powers must reject superpower incursions on

00:43:15.960 our sovereignty. Yet for the past decade, it is actually the liberal government that has asked

00:43:23.240 every Canadian to hang a deceptive sign in their windows. One that argued everything was fine

00:43:30.760 and that ignored a decade of liberal policies that will leave us with an unprepared military,

00:43:37.000 underdeveloped natural resources, and seemingly untouchable internal trade barriers. And I thought

00:43:43.160 Michelle had it and I would like everybody else to get it too. There.

00:43:48.520 I think one of the bigger issues and it's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger is

00:43:53.240 euthanasia in Canada, medical aid in dying. And I just want to throw out to my colleague Nigel here,

00:44:01.240 who this week published a big report in the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms,

00:44:07.640 a bit of a mouthful, about the subject. So, Nigel, where can people go and read your report?

00:44:12.680 Thank you very much. And look at Linda Slobodian's work on this as well in our files.

00:44:18.360 I've got one. I just want to throw to Alberta independence movement. This has a lot of moving

00:44:23.800 parts right now. There's a lot of pro-separatist people out there. There's a lot of people are

00:44:27.160 somewhere in the middle. There's people who are very good conservatives, I would consider, who

00:44:32.040 are really fighting for a united Canada. So, everybody be nice to each other out there. There's a

00:44:36.120 lot of evolving parts. This doesn't have to be an us versus them. Watch out for labels,

00:44:40.360 pay attention, but do not underestimate this movement that's happening right now. It is

00:44:44.360 a very organized effort with a lot of grassroots people working behind the scenes. And hopefully,

00:44:49.480 we will somehow see democracy in action as a result at the end of the day, however this shapes out.

00:44:55.720 I was going to talk about how Ezra Levant of Rebel News kind of, you know, did the,

00:45:02.280 I don't mean this pejoratively, did the kind of the ambush, came up with a mic, asked him a question,

00:45:05.880 because it was right after, you know, another major court defeat for the federal government

00:45:14.120 from Trudeau's time when they invoked the Emergencies or War Measures Act against the

00:45:19.400 Freedom Convoy. And Trudeau had nothing to say about that. But I got better. It just came to me.

00:45:25.400 I've been thinking about this for a few days now. You know, I mentioned how we're, you know,

00:45:30.280 the feds are now trying again to go and confiscate the firearms of people, of law-binding Canadians.

00:45:36.040 And they say assault style, firearms, military, assault rifles, etc. None of them are, except for

00:45:43.480 one, which they unbanned because a certain group, they don't want to anger uses them. But this comes

00:45:50.520 literally days after the Globe and Mail got its hands on a report from the Department of National

00:45:55.320 Defense about kind of gaming out a hypothetical American invasion of Canada. And it was realistic

00:46:01.720 enough to know that, yeah, we can't do shit. I mean, even if Canada had a serious military, 0.95

00:46:06.600 it couldn't do shit. And because we have no military, we could do even less shit. But it says 0.99

00:46:12.120 best case scenario is, you know, Canadians could fight a guerrilla war, you know, like the Mahajideen 0.97

00:46:18.520 or something like that, hit and run tactics. So we have no military. And our backup plan is a guerrilla

00:46:27.640 war with the irregular soldiers taking their own firearms to make hit and run attacks against the

00:46:33.480 American invader. With what guns do they propose we do that? So I mean, maybe they're going to 0.99

00:46:40.520 confiscate all our guns, and then they'll have some drop off points. So in event of an American 0.99

00:46:45.720 invasion, break glass case of American invasion, you can come get your guns back to defend the regime

00:46:50.680 that took your guns against the regime that would probably give them back to you. Great plan for

00:46:55.720 national defense. All right. I mean, this would make a great like kind of dark comedy. Like a

00:47:05.800 sequel to Canadian bacon, Americans do invade, and Canadians go to get their weapons to fight the

00:47:11.160 American invader. And we remember, oh, our own regime took them from us. Who's going to be the 0.60

00:47:15.880 brave Canadian who jumps on a horse and rides somewhere and says, the Americans are coming.

00:47:20.840 Paul Revere in reverse. Yeah. All right. That's it. Nigel, Lizzie, Dave, thank you very much.

00:47:28.920 And John, around in the studio, thank you. Thank all of you for joining us on the pipeline today.

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