THE PIPELINE： Canadian freedom under attack from Ottawa, and abroad
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Derek Fildebrand, Corey Morgan, and Dave Naylor are here for the laughs. They discuss the latest on the leadership race between Jagmeet Singh and Jason Kenney, the Israeli ambassador's anti-Canadian remarks, and much, much more.
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I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
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Former Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.
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Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
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We're all in our nice spring blue jackets, except for Dave.
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um we're gonna talk uh about the thing that everyone is talking about everyone can't get
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enough news about the uh very important and decisive race for the leadership of the federal
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NDP uh we've been maybe derelict in our duty we have just not really covered much for Canada's
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in the forest that no one heard? We'll talk about it.
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think they would probably just rather let this be in the rearview mirror, but that's odd. But it
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could have implications for the ability of the government, potentially in the future, to be able
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to use military force to crush bouncy castles and hot tubs, things like that, other sundry threats
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to national security. But we're going to start first with some, I think, rather ill-advised
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comments from the Israeli ambassador to Canada. We covered this yesterday, both in the news and
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we had an editorial on it. The Israeli ambassador to Canada said, you know, all lies of the world
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are on Canada. There's been a significant increase in anti-Semitism and hate incidents against our
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Jewish community. I don't think many reasonable people would have disagreed with him, but he
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kept on talking and he says uh you know this uh uh this could um this this is you know gonna need
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uh canadians to give up some of their freedoms he did say what freedoms i think the implication is
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more likely around freedom of speech possibly privacy rights you know with internet spying
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from the government or something hard to say but probably most significantly freedom of speech
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freedom of assembly those kinds of things let's say in order to combat the rise of anti-semitism
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dave uh we're gonna have to give up some of our uh our freedoms yes thing for a foreign ambassador
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to say yes that's what he said so you're supposed to let me introduce all that stuff oh i'm kind of
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tossing it to you to suss it out oh okay well i can't you you said it all uh yes that's what he
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said uh clearly stepped over the boundary of uh diplomatic uh lines uh you don't go into a foreign
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country no matter where in the world and and tell their governments what to do as far as i could see
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derek we were the only media that covered that angle uh so i'm not expecting much of a rebuke
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from the liberal government normally the ambassador would be called in by the foreign minister and
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given a stern talking to but i don't see that happening here so yeah same book i had on the
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Hannaford show here about a year ago you know this they do tend to play overplay
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their hand there's a wide sympathy for Israel for the events of October the
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seventh I think everybody on this understood why they reacted and 50 years
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ago when I entered this business everybody understood why they were so
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very sensitive to anything that appeared in press about that could be construed
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as anti-semitic they were still processing the holocaust and in fact every now and then
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somebody still crops up who was a holocaust survivor and if not then then their children
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introduce them say i am a holocaust survivor's child of course they're sensitive about losing
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six million people in an act of genocide so i think it was fairly forgivable that my breath
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and the Jewish Defense League took a very active stance back there in the 70s, the 80s.
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If they saw anything that seemed to be holding Jewish people in hatred or contempt,
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Albert, a teacher who had a very countercultural view of recent history,
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blamed Jews for all sorts of things, got fired,
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became a litmus test of free speech in this country.
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So it goes on and on and on. I think Canada has been in the past a very fair country in terms of upholding the interest of Jewish people in their own history and how it's perceived.
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Now, for some reason, and it may be related to immigration from Muslim countries, that's all changed.
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And it's common for people living in Jewish neighborhoods to be very fearful.
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They turn the lights out at my gangs in the street, broken windows, firebombs at their little restaurants and so forth and so on.
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This is the sort of stuff that we don't want in Canada.
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I think the issue is we kind of are tolerating it now
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and that our governments do not respond adequately.
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Good Lord, they would jump all over a small-time newspaper
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But now, if you want to hold a demonstration on a bridge,
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block traffic, slag Israel, nobody does anything.
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I think the ambassador, although I strongly disagree with what he said, I see where he's coming from.
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And especially in Toronto, where they got death to Israel chants by mass people.
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Part of what he's hit, though, is overstepping diplomacy, as we said.
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I mean, the bottom line is we have all the mechanisms to deal with this.
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The country has not been choosing to exercise them.
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So we don't need to reduce any freedoms any further.
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that's never a good statement to put out. I mean, that kind of ties into what we'll talk a little
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bit about later with the Emergencies Act. I mean, I can understand him expressing concern. That's
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part of your thing. We've had some people of the Jewish faith are feeling unsafe. We think Canada
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has not been stepping up well enough. He just phrased it terribly. And when we have discussions
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going on on things like C9 and such, we're a little more sensitive to where things might be
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going. Don't need pressures. It's bad. We've got enough fight going on in here. We don't need the
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outsiders chiming in on on the legislation so i mean it was worth noting because it's just not
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the police of a diplomat to say those sorts of things or go into that but he is identifying a
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problem absolutely it was worth speaking to it's just saying maybe it's uh it's his cure that's
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the problem yeah i mean tell your toronto police to stop bringing them coffee and donuts and
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actually enforce the laws you already have that's a very valid case and point to make and no extra
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freedoms need to be infringed to do that you just actually have to enforce the existing laws yeah i
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I was chatting, I won't name the person, but I was chatting with a Jewish friend of mine last night about this.
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The legacy media covered it and just said, yeah, the Israeli ambassador is talking about the anti-Semitism problem in Canada.
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But we made very prominent in how we chose to cover this story.
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And he says the solution is we have to have less freedoms.
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He said it very explicitly, which just doesn't seem like a very good thing for a diplomat to say.
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But I was putting it, it was a good natured conversation.
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And I put it this way, how I, as a non-Jewish person, received what he said.
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You know, there are people who have obviously very legitimate problems with gun crimes and shooting.
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But then they see the solution to go and take everyone's guns away.
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and probably won't help like censoring people is not actually going to make anyone safer
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just as a lot of these gun laws do not actually make anyone safer all you're going to do is breed
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resentment and i i think the person understood and i took this well but uh this is just overplaying
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uh the ambassador is over overplaying his hand i mean this would be a terrible thing
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or even a canadian citizen i think to say that we'd be bad enough but fine we got plenty enough
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but then a foreign ambassador says this and you know we should be we would be i think uh we'll be
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outraged if you know the chinese engage in foreign interference all the time but they're subtle
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enough not to say you need to elect the liberals or you need to uh you know there's there's some
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anti-chinese racism so you need to have less freedoms because of that they're more subtle
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they'll stack buses and go to a liberal nomination meeting or something but but this is foreign
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interference i mean they're allowed to express their views on our country i suppose but this
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is a clearly domestic political issue canadians get to decide what their rights are and the
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charter decides not a foreign diplomat the thing is this is going to backfire on him derek because
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there are plenty of people who like myself are very sympathetic to what the israelis are trying
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to cope with over there who are fine right up to the point that he wants to limit my freedoms
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here in canada no no no i'm i'm backing off for just for a week or two on until that until this
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gets sorted out we need an apology yeah but how we got here is a failure of numerous canadian
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institutions starting with the the border and immigration people who are letting into this
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country people that hate jews uh from from muslim countries uh letting in letting them in by the
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boatload and then again not only immigration but then we've got the the failure of ceases to weed
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out uh any uh any islamic type guy we got the failure of any deportations you know we've got
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these 700 iranian agents in canada nobody's talking about or nobody's deported them and
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we've as we've already mentioned we got the failure of the the police services in canada
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in montreal dave i i really think that it's possible to build a conspiratorial narrative
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of evil doing in ottawa directed against the rest of the country and so you can do that i could do
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it maybe i should do it but the truth of the matter is that they don't understand they we
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are governed by politicians who have got a rosy view of the world and think that if everybody
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comes to canada they muck in together and they will all be think the same eat the same do the
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same cheer for the same set of teams and that's not like that people come in from certain parts
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of the world and they bring their stuff with them we've seen it the sikhs have brought their stuff
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with them and they're not part of this argument but very clearly you look at the footage of the
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demonstrations against israel who do you see out there the people who have brought their stuff
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with them from some other continent and the people who vote to bring them and the people who vote to
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bring them but they're the ones that i really have an issue with they are stupid they should
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know better yeah well maybe that's part of it i mean again just what was just a terrible statement
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in general either maybe either an apology or go to ground or at least you should expand on what
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were you talking about i mean some people try to defend i mean if you know i call out say we got
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700 identified irgc people in canada why the hell are they even here why do we not have them on a
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couple of planes and just dump them back and i ran that's where they want to be appears uh but
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But somebody on the extreme left side, well, that would infringe on their freedoms.
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Now, maybe in a roundabout that way, that's what I can't speak for.
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If you're not a citizen, I don't care about your freedoms.
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Maybe there was room for this guy to phrase where he was trying to go with this,
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It's just not typical for a diplomat, you know?
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He's probably back in his office in Ottawa slapping his forehead.
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He's probably had, I would imagine, a few emails like, dude.
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there yeah yeah but i mean it's kind of as we all conclude i mean there's lots we can do to make
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things better without infringing on any canadian citizens freedoms uh and the discussion of
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limiting them just shouldn't be coming up well this would seem to be counterproductive because
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they're i mean canadian society is pretty divided on the israel-palestine issue i think we're
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generally much less divided although unfortunately not unanimous we're less divided on people of
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every minority group we've got should be protected they should be safe they shouldn't have you want
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You want to demonstrate in front of the Israeli embassy and you're not calling for violence.
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Going through a residential neighborhood that just happens to be populated by Jewish people.
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I'm not sure how we frame that as like this is a Jewish zone, this is a non-Jewish zone.
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I'm not sure how we can actually legislate around it.
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That's the difference between protesting against Israel and protesting against Jews.
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I mean, you look at, you know, we've got Bernie Farber or Abby Lewis.
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Not every Jew is necessarily supportive of what Israel's doing.
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But when you target that neighborhood, you're targeting Abby and Bernie and all the rest of them while you're out.
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And I'm not sure how you actually force law around it saying, like, you know, this is a Jewish zone and this is a non-Jewish zone.
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We know where there's a part of town where predominantly black people.
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Well, if we all decided to throw on the old white hoods and go trotting around the neighborhood, we're going to have an intervention on us.
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Yeah, what Corey's found in his bedsheets walking through a certain part of town, I guarantee you the police will enforce that.
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They're going to have a conversation, and that's kind of what's, I know, you can talk about the line being fuzzy,
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but when you have a very distinctive Jewish neighborhood and you have people walking around with Palestinian flags and such, it's not.
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You need one smart cop to say no and put up the mounted patrol.
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We don't know if consequences will work because they've never tried it.
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That smart cop you speak of, Dave, will probably be disciplined by his superiors on the orders of the people who instruct his superiors.
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So let's actually, this is not, we're going to have to take time away from other things, but actually this is, maybe we should just take a moment to talk about the Edmonton police chief.
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and the hot water he's found him in himself in uh you know i am not uh unquestioningly with
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israel on a lot of what they've done my own views have changed on the topic
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um but i mean the guy goes on a trip with other chiefs of police to israel it seems pretty harmless
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to me um and you know you've got everybody calling for his resignation you've got the mayor
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Knacker, whatever the hell his name is, you know, demanding this guy's head on a plait.
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But you've got these guys calling for the police chief's head because he went to Israel.
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When I went to Israel and in the West Bank, it actually opened my eyes up to, you know,
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actually a lot of the suffering of the Palestinians.
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It actually made me more empathetic with the other side.
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I think I came out more sympathetic, to an extent, with the Palestinians.
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I don't actually understand what people are angry about.
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No, and as far as policing goes, I mean, if there's any country where the local police at least know how to watch for and deal with terrorists,
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I think Israel's had a lot of dealing with that.
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I mean, aside from the government things, watching for packages, watching for settlers to tear out.
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I thought we were starting on a different thing.
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Look, you know, an area where they have dealt with knife-bearing nutcases, bombs left in public places, you know, things like that.
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There are things that can be shared just from a raw policing perspective that, you know, are of worth.
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Because we are seeing rising things and shootings of synagogues and things like that.
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It doesn't mean he's endorsing the Israeli government's stance in Palestine or anything of the source.
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I just don't understand what people are upset about.
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Keep in mind Edmonton's being the site of the only confirmed ISIS-inspired attack when the guy shot up City Hall.
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So for Knick-Knack to go off the deep end and criticizing the police chief for trying to gain experience.
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He gained valuable policing experience with other police chiefs on how to deal with important matters.
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It is absolutely the most ridiculous controversy this year.
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Well, and speaking of telling you, I guess, you know, like an ambassador has overstepped his grounds.
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Don't forget the groups that made the biggest complaints right off the bat were like the Muslim Association of Edmonton and the rest.
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Well, what the hell is your place to tell the police chief where he's allowed to go?
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Well, this is overreach kind of on both sides of things.
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You know, guys like the ambassador, people who agree with them that, yeah, we should take away the freedoms of Canadians to curtail anti-Semitism.
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to think that visiting Israel and meeting with police there
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the good, the bad, and the ugly of what goes over there.
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People on both sides have just totally lost their minds.
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You don't owe me just because you've given me a job as a policeman.
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All right, well, speaking of police and losing minds,
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uh so uh you know cory yeah we we all know what happened with the emergencies act we had to crush
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the insurrection of hot tubs and bouncy castles uh the federal government has lost i think every
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step of the way uh finding it unconstitutional invoking up emergencies act there and then we
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see from the canadian constitution foundation announced yesterday christine van guying who
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we've had on you know shows and had her in our paper before uh we find out the very last minute
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the federal government is appealing their losses and now goes to the supreme court
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they just don't want to let this one go and then i it's not like that we're reaching for
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consequences like we should when we've had multiple levels of of the courts have said that
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the government will basically illegally impose martial law in canada that they should call the
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emergencies act martial law again so people understand the gravity of what that act actually
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is it's suspending rights to deal with an immediate situation it was improperly used that was found
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a life sentence in jail now. There was actually calls for
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eventually lead to consequences for politicians
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for the first time in canadian history i don't know because why are you appealing this up
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farther but they're taking it to the higher court and people have some valid questions too because
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richard wagner on the court has been very vocal already in public about his thoughts on the convoy
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and called them you know basically anarchists and uh said they were taking other citizens hostage
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and he's prejudged the case before it comes to him yeah so i don't have much faith in him giving it a
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good uh hearing when it gets to there this this is of concern i mean we had speaking of you know
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you know, restricting individual freedoms without cause.
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We should be examining ourselves how we can tighten things up so it doesn't happen again
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instead of the government trying to get itself out of the hole and make an excuse for having done it.
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Nigel, I'm not sure I'm following the federal government's logic here
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because unlike, what's his name, Moon or whatever, the South Korean guy,
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there is no consequences when a government is found to break its own laws
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because these things are not a part of the criminal.
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But people don't understand the difference between just the law, regular statutes, and then criminal code.
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And it says it's reviewable by the courts, but it doesn't say what happens if you lose.
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It's just the court waves its finger and says be more careful in the future.
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You know, it's like if a government blows through its debt ceiling or something, it's in contravention of the law, and it just means they change the law to comply with it normally.
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So there's no actual consequences beyond, you know, giving a kind of a baton for the Freedom Convoy people to beat them with rhetorically.
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No one's going to go to jail. No one even gets fined a nickel for this other than just they get a rhetorical baton.
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But, you know, people who supported using the Emergencies Act, War Measures Act, they still support it generally.
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I don't think the courts are actually really changing people's minds all that much on this.
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All this does is open up the feds to just another round of some bad headlines that they lost again, this time potentially at the Supreme Court, even the Supreme Court stacked, I think, almost entirely by liberals at this point, not 100%. And Wegner, I think, was a Harper appointee, and he should recuse himself from this because he's already prejudged it publicly.
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yeah um what is the win here for the liberals i guess unless they are confident they're going to
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win at the zippering court having despite having lost every single time the win for the liberals
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is the satisfaction of placing their thumb firmly on top of people that they despise and grinding
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them into the top of the desk it was very obvious they're the defendants here like this is not uh
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You know, this is not going to keep Tamera Leach.
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Yeah, but they're the ones who are keeping this thing going.
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And they want to have the, look, everything you read about the liberal government at the moment,
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whatever bill it is that you're examining it, when you get past the fluff,
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which says this would be a good thing to do because you get down to,
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and in order to do that, we are going to curtail a liberty in one direction or another.
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other we wanted cut back on child pornography by the way there's a thing in here about redefining
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hate and that's going to make it more difficult for people who hold a certain point of view to
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express it oh this this this bill over here yeah we really need to uh cut down on uh on the use of
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cash this is bill c2 oh why oh well drug stuff you know people people don't need large amounts
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of money well maybe some don't need it but just prefer it that way anyway we're gonna take that
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liberty away and one day you know when we have a currency that is entirely electronic it'll be
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just that much more convenient now you're not applying the government would freeze your bank
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accounts or anything but that's uh that's something that this is about so when you sit when you ask me
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why would they do this what is the upside in one sense it's a rhetorical question what is the upside
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it may never half the people involved in this are no longer in office but the other half are
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and they feel very strongly but in canada in order for everybody to get along and play nicely
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they need to do exactly as they are told and this is about winning the argument that if we say it's
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an emergency it's an emergency and you must do exactly as you are told so this is not necessarily
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logical this is in some cases deeply personal but in another case part of a larger government plan
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for complete domination of the canadian people and deeply expensive just imagine how the billable
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hours all the team of lawyers maybe that's the point lawyers are going to get rich out of this
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richer and uh you know at a cost of likely hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars
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it's uh it's a money-making machine for that low-balling yeah yeah it'll be in the millions
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it's an authoritarian bent as nigel is saying and part of it i guess is they also want to make sure
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that they still have this act in their pocket down the road if they feel they might need to use it
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again i don't think they have anything specific in mind but are they feeling then that they're
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going to get large protests again in the future somewhere where they feel that they need to be
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able to justify it in using it in this case because i mean what if alberta voted for independence do
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you think they would not invoke martial law then you know well that would really be a poor idea
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but that's a rabbit hole yeah but i i can foresee some you know not entirely hypothetical
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circumstances under which they might they might want to have this in their back pocket i mean
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And losing the case doesn't mean that the act goes away, but it might mean that certain courts will be more likely to step in and say, this is unconstitutional.
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You don't get to just implement this with a blank check yet.
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Whatever the court decides now will shape how future governments can invoke the emergency powers.
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a few yeah i mean i also i guess it would be nice for them to see if they can win i mean
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they've got a pretty stacked court here um it's even i think like the last one or two herper
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appointees even there oh they're already prejudged on side so maybe they got a good chance of winning
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uh so then you take that rhetorical baton away from the freedom convoy supporters i wouldn't
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place too much hope in having in who appoints the the judges something about working on uh
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the Supreme Court, in fact, any court bench, people become very collegial and they'll actually
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say, well, you know, I'm going to let them win that one. No, you want people like Anton Scalia,
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the U.S. Supreme Court, came in, heard the case, went home, wrote up his notes, didn't talk to
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anybody, never went to the parties, never went to the drinking sessions. These people are pals.
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But don't forget there were two lower court judges that ruled against it,
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and you would think they would also be a liberal appointed.
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federal court of appeal but if you're talking like
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who've worked together, the other courts I don't think
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I presume the evidence is still the same, the bottom line
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the problem they had was there was nothing they
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uh no well it was the threat of it they said we will press you into it and they the tow truck
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drivers had been refusing to rightfully they have the right to refuse their services conceivably
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the demonstration could have been dealt with maybe a little more slally but it could have
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been dealt with without the invocation of the emergencies act the police had the authority at
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that point to start clearing people and you could find means like that that's part of where it was
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failing in court did they have to come in and say they had to make their case why was it absolutely
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impossible to clear out this demonstration without evoking the emergencies act and they can't make
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that case i would just hope that these justices still remember their initial legal training and
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that even if they feel beholden to their liberal uh people who pointed them in there that there's
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just not a good basis for you know you know what would have ended it quickly if trudeau met with
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these people instead of running off to cowardly to errington lake or at least he would have had
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actually more of a moral authority to say, look, I
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They're crazy. They're irrational. They all threw
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Alright, well, you're going to be last on Party
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Okay, let's switch it up to the most important thing going on in Canada right now, the NDP leadership race.
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NDP leadership, and you're picking an old conservative to talk about it.
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I'll go straight to you, Nigel, because I don't know what to say about these guys.
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Well, there ain't really that much, but from what we read in this morning's news,
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She's the Abby Lewis is leading in fundraising.
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And when you're leading in fundraising, you're probably leading in popularity as well.
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And if there is an interesting thing about it, it is how between the five of them, they actually cover the ground that the NDP travels on.
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You've got an airy-fairy, you know, blue skies and kiss-the-grass candidate.
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You have got the green side, you've got the blue side, you've got the brown side.
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It's a reference to the brownfield development, by the way, for those people who are, you know.
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Well, Jagmeet Singh has resigned, so we have no more about that.
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But look, so you've got Don Davies serving as an interim leader.
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And, you know, here's where they all, here's what they're all about.
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Abby Lewis, well, he's a journalist, a documentary filmmaker, a longtime climate activist.
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So we're like son or grandson of the former NDP.
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He is the actual son of former NDP leader Stephen Lewis and the grandson of former federal leader David Lewis.
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So anyway, if you are the kind of person who wants everybody to drive an electric car or ride a bike,
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and by the way, give the country away, he'd be the pick.
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So he is, that's about twice as much as anybody else has raised.
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In fact, it's more than anybody the rest of them have.
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So it looks like Abby Lewis is going to be the guy unless they find out something terrible about him.
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you know like that he once had dinner with Donald Trump or something you know
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that would be bad but he represents the left end of the party it's all about
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climate justice activist policies and far more confrontational stance towards
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corporate power and capitalism then you got from Edmonton
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Heather McPherson she is an MP she's actually the only sitting MP in the race
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and what's her background well international development humanitarian aid you know i don't
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think it's necessarily a bad thing to be looking out for your neighbors but um these people never
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do it with their own money so uh and she is also she has been in israel and she's quite anti-israel
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she's quite anti so when she goes to israel she goes to see the wrong people as far as i'm concerned
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I don't know how the mayor feels about her wandering in the streets of old Jerusalem,
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whether he feels any better about her being there than the police chief. But anyway,
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she is an elected representative. So it is of interest to all of us if that's where she went
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when she had the chance. Well, Corey, on McPherson, she's kind of got a tough track to tread
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with kind of rank and file, you know, conventional urban NDP members now because she's represented
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in Alberta riding and she was extremely tepidly and really just on paper, technically in favor
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She represents an Alberta constituency, which shared a name and overlapped with Rachel
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Notley's constituency when Rachel Notley was the NDP leader and premier and opposition
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uh and you know so as an and you know as an alberta mp she she had to she was extremely
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tepid she never talked about it but on paper she was in support of the pipeline and that is
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that is a cardinal sin among the modern it's like you can hardly get away with that as a as a liberal
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in most areas of the country at this point you could definitely not get away with it as a modern
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new democrat and as far as i could tell like avi lewis is beating her he's like it's like a pipe
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bomb, no pun intended. He's just beating her with it. Yeah. And there's no room for a moderate
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NDP leader at this point. Abby's looking. If we consider her moderate. I know she's a
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vert loop. I mean, you know, I watched her stand in the House of Commons and her cafe and, you
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know, her, and as you said, she only has been silent on the pipeline out of political pragmatism,
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not because she supports it in any sort of way. This, she just kind of reiterates and as Nigel's
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going through it and that's the top two and it only goes downhill from there uh this i wouldn't
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necessarily call the labor guy i understand those guys yes i understand i'm just talking about yeah
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but they have no chance of winning some win yeah well i would just think this party is heading
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for the basement for a while and the person who's going to be most upset about it i think
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you know just to sidetrack a bit wasn't ahead and edgy because there's been that anchor of the
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federal ndp on the provincial ndp that's a little bit of what harms them as well and and as
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abby lewis or or whether it turns out to be mcpherson pulls this even farther left
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loses sight of the old labor roots they used to have uh you know it's been long gone at this point
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yeah it's it's you know the only union members now are more of the teacher's lounge ones not the
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lunchbox one carrying ones this is a party in dire trouble and they don't even know it
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they're pulling it into a hammer and sickle mode rather than trying to yeah sorry there's something
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to watch out for if it's either it's coming down to lewis or uh mcpherson both of them i think you
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could describe as what you just did uh i'm not going to say because i don't want to get done for
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slander but either one of those two becomes leader they go to the house of commons you may have some
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disillusioned ndp people who say screw it i can't deal with this sort of idiocy i'm going to the
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liberals that's already happening but yeah they lost one uh just last week well even voters too
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though they're just actually where i was going to go with this was that um you know if you get
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somebody with the views of lewis there are some of the old ndp people who voted for jack layton
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who would say you know the idiocy i don't want to have any more to do with is the liberal idiocy
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So this has got something to do with whether we have an election in the spring.
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Nigel was talking about, you know, every party's got its different factions.
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The liberals, oddly, have, I think, the least factions.
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It's just more or less kind of lefty, and we like to be in government.
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They've got some factions, but not to the same degree that conservatives or new Democrats do.
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But traditionally, you know, you've got the two holes that are often in real conflict with each other, even if they try to keep it under the radar, between labor and then like urban, social progressivist, you know, you could be the workers party or the professors party, and you can't really be both.
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and I guess they've got a workers party candidate
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NDP going to reinvent itself, it's been utterly
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and there might even be an opening on the left because
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you know as much as we see carnage on the left a lot of a lot of canadians see him as more
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reasonable than justin trudeau he's at least more competent we'll have to grab the devil is due you
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know he's not he's not an idiot um and you know he is at least rhetorically we haven't seen the
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substance of it yet but rhetorically he's not as anti-development of oil and gas and infrastructure
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that kind of thing so there's there's some opening perhaps on the liberals left flank
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people have been talking about. Is it going to be
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make a good showing for being the workers' party
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But, I mean, the other thing about the NDP is that if you look carefully into their positions on the back of the nation, you have to wonder what their founders would have ever made of it.
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Well, you know, the founders of the NDP, oh, there's a whole new rabbit hole.
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As my Christian friends remind me from time to time, the NDP was started by Christians, you know, Nigel.
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they're prairie socialists but it's it's it's nothing of the party that they that they were
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yeah of old that's for sure yeah so okay i'm like very wrong here all right parting shots since
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nigel didn't care to mute his phone uh before going here we'll uh give dave first shot all
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right first shot uh big doings at calgary city hall saturday or sorry friday morning at 10 30
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where there will be a solemn procession of 215 smelly old discarded shoes
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that have been there since the announcement by the Kamloops First Nation
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of 215 children's bodies found in the graveyard there.
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So they're going to march these 215 pairs of shoes over to the confluence.
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will be fort calgary again where these 215 smelly shoes will be housed in a 7.5 million dollar
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exhibit so talk about a waste of taxpayers money but on the right side our good friend
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francis widdowson and her her pals vowed to disrupt the whole procession with questions
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about the 215 graves so it's going to turn into a police melee so uh john our production guy and a
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western standard team will be there friday morning 10 30 to document all the fun
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i don't know if john knew that i think he's like oh no he knew we talked okay okay cory yeah i'll
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keep a little profile since you uh gated your phone you get to go next oh thanks i just wanted
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want to give a shout out to our friends at the CBC and thanks to our friends at the Taxpayers
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Federation for reminding us and putting that out with their ratings numbers. The CBC News
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now is capturing 1.7% for our $1.5 billion a year. That's their news hour actually captures
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for audience share. Their top shows are 3.6%. So it's bad enough that we're spending as much
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I'd rather just waste the money on someone watching.
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It's just burnt money, I guess, yes, but it's just to remind
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Did you see David Cochran's coming back, though?
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went on medical leave but he posted a lengthy thing yesterday saying not telling you what it's
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all about but i vowed to be back and uh rosie barton uh retweeted a fist pump looking forward
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to having you so an increase in ratings increase in ratings soon to come 1.6 percent of what do
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we know of people watching news oh okay so is that like 160 000 or 16 000 or 1600 i don't know
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heard numbers i'd have to dig into that that's just the audience share numbers because there's
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part of it too is not a lot of people watch tv news anymore anyways that's uh no matter what
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station it sounds like not a lot yeah yeah okay all right well i'm going in front of nigel good
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i'm going in front of nigel this time i always save myself the last not today because that was
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rude uh the uh now former director of the uh united states's uh counter-terrorism uh office
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Joe Kent, who was a Trump appointee, resigned in quite a fashion yesterday, writing in opposition to the war with Iran.
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And, you know, he did not criticize Trump, but he says, effectively, Trump has been manipulated by certain players into doing this.
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Iran, you know, it's not friendly, but it was not an imminent threat.
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You know, you ran three times for president, it's America first, no more of these forever wars in the Middle East.
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was he was never very good on security well then why the hell did you appoint him to be in charge
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of counterterrorism i mean i mean but we know trump you you take him seriously but not literally
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i think you know either it was dereliction of duty to appoint someone who's no good on security
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to be in charge of counterterrorism uh or or you're not telling the truth but it's anyway this
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is uh this was a pretty big moment in the united states and uh i i've predicted before i think
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iran very well could be kind of the beginning of the end of mega and breaking that coalition apart
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you may be right let me tell you however about the peculiarity of bc premier david eby and we
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did report this on the news pages who went out confronted by a bill to abolish the bc human
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rights tribunal from one of the opposition parties and he made a you know emotional speech
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saying how the bc human rights commission and its tribunal were there to protect people they were
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there to protect women this from the lips of the premier after his same said human rights tribunal
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has just penalized a school board trustee in the amount of 750 000 for protecting the dignity of
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women by saying there you can't just come along and say you're a woman if you're actually a man
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it is the how they can't make those connections i guess it's just their minds are programmed
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differently and this is a problem in this country we've got a lot of people with their minds
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i think it is it does seem like computer programming and and there's a problem with
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the buying no pun intended there's probably the binary code here yeah uh i'm sure you
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they're still feminists but then they're also for essentially getting rid of women's rights because
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It's like when you ask a hardcore pro-abortion activist about sex selection, abortion, and they're a feminist.
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