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00:02:15.700 years we've been doing this that's the very first time you've messed up i was always correct

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00:02:28.640 Okay, so, well, let's start with a self-serving story

00:02:32.060 and what's been topping our news,

00:02:33.760 but, I mean, it really is quite serious

00:02:35.360 and just seems to be keep evolving.

00:02:37.220 How the Liberals killed the news.

00:02:39.920 Dave, what have we got going on now?

00:02:41.960 Oh, it's just craziness in Ottawa.

00:02:43.500 As usual, Meta and Google are threatening to pull.

00:02:48.160 their Canadian news links out in retaliation today.

00:02:52.680 Pablo Fernandez, our heritage minister,

00:02:56.180 got up and huffed and puffed and blew his cheeks out 0.81

00:02:58.820 and said the government will no longer spend money advertising

00:03:01.360 on Facebook or Google to tell us what a wonderful job they're doing.

00:03:06.340 I don't know how we're going to survive without them,

00:03:08.480 but that's going to be about a $10 million hit

00:03:11.740 that the government can spend elsewhere.

00:03:13.800 That, to make a point, to a company with a market capitalization of $759 billion U.S.

00:03:26.040 So I guess it was the price of optics and so on.

00:03:31.020 But I think the really difficult thing there is that Mr. Rodriguez is saying that these,

00:03:42.640 he calls them giant tech giants.

00:03:47.240 It's like sort of some Jack and the Beanstalk fairy tale language coming out here,

00:03:52.560 which is designed to make people look at these companies in a way that they very much dislike.

00:03:59.520 but these were the companies darn it these were the companies that prevented us and all other

00:04:06.640 news media from doing anything but accept the government line all during the covet crisis

00:04:13.600 if we tried to publish something that sort of said well maybe vaccines are this or vaccines

00:04:19.280 or that or maybe we should have a well that's not the government line locked so how quickly

00:04:25.920 things change if you're a tech giant one minute you're an enforcement arm of the government and

00:04:32.080 now you are irresponsible reedy reckless uh uh snatcher of pennies from the eyes of the dead 0.88

00:04:41.760 and you need to have the government uh remind you do you have to obey canadian laws 0.74

00:04:47.200 well bless my soul you know if a fellow manages to keep his income just under the threshold

00:04:51.920 the revenue candidate you don't pay tax you're not breaking any laws and if these guys decide

00:04:56.720 to follow through with what they've threatened and not provide links to canadian newspapers

00:05:03.760 they won't be breaking any laws no i mean otherwise the alternative is essentially

00:05:09.600 forcing them to provide a service saying you must do this as part of your business and by the way

00:05:14.800 you must pay for it as well yeah you pay to provide this it's just observed the thing is a

00:05:20.080 total disaster. And I actually think that maybe this is gone out of control. This is not quite

00:05:28.560 how the liberals thought that this was going to be. No, they thought they were going to save the

00:05:32.520 news industry and instead they could kill it, you know, because that's how important the links are

00:05:37.860 to many producers, you know, especially the mainstream media. They're cutting off the nose

00:05:42.620 to spite their face here. Where do they think they're getting all their readers online from?

00:05:47.380 It's Facebook.

00:05:48.200 Of course it is.

00:05:48.740 Very few people will get on and say,

00:05:51.020 I'm going to directly type the URL of my preferred news organization.

00:05:54.500 They'll go to their social media platform,

00:05:56.540 and if they see something of interest come by, they'll go through to it.

00:06:00.620 It's definitely going to dramatically reduce traffic to every organization.

00:06:04.880 That's the thing.

00:06:05.540 It's not going to be on a social media platform.

00:06:08.060 If it's Canadian news, you'd be able to get American news, or so I understand.

00:06:11.980 And who knows, in six months, that could change as well.

00:06:14.520 But right now, my understanding of what the bill calls for is that Meta and Google, Meta will not carry Canadian news.

00:06:26.300 Google won't direct you to it.

00:06:29.020 And so it will be Canadian news that you can't get.

00:06:32.020 You know, Mr. Trudeau will make a statement in Ottawa and nobody will hear about it because you can't find it on the Internet.

00:06:39.340 All right?

00:06:39.880 You'll have to seek it out.

00:06:41.120 You'll have to go and buy a newspaper, or you're going to have to turn on that dreadful, you know, news program that CBC puts out.

00:06:49.700 Or get a subscription to the Western Standard.

00:06:51.500 That's right.

00:06:52.100 Get on the email list.

00:06:52.740 Yeah, that's what you need to do.

00:06:53.740 And this is a good time, actually, and I've been doing it.

00:06:55.580 Remind people, do that.

00:06:56.940 Your favorite news outlets, particularly this one.

00:06:59.660 Get on the email list, because then you'll keep up with things.

00:07:02.220 Whatever goes on with this battle, you'll still see things as they come.

00:07:05.360 I mean, some of the irony out of this whole thing was it sounds like, you know, Meta and Google are determining who they're going to block based by who would have been a qualified media organization, which is a large, large list.

00:07:19.380 But one, ironically, of it all, I think it was a rebel because the government said you are not a media organization.

00:07:25.340 They've said it countless, countless times.

00:07:27.780 You are not a media organization.

00:07:28.840 So it could turn out that the social media giants will block every single news organization

00:07:34.860 except the one that the government loathes the absolute most

00:07:38.000 because the government itself said they are as a media organization.

00:07:41.340 And wouldn't that be ironic?

00:07:43.420 That would be hilarious.

00:07:45.040 It certainly would.

00:07:46.400 I'm sure Ezra's contemplating that in Paris, even as the city burns, you know.

00:07:51.900 I don't.

00:07:52.500 It'll be all right when he gets back.

00:07:54.040 When I came into the news today, the term I saw online for that too was flailing.

00:08:00.320 I saw it was on TV.

00:08:01.640 Rodriguez was there.

00:08:02.480 He was making his announcement.

00:08:03.760 People were, you know, pundits or others, they don't know what to do.

00:08:08.040 I mean, their bluff's been called.

00:08:09.440 As you pointed out, I looked it up just with the percentage of Canadian media or Canadian

00:08:15.260 advertising on Facebook with what, if the government pulls away, amounts to about 0.39%

00:08:21.320 of their Canadian advertising revenue.

00:08:23.620 Like, they don't have them over a barrel here.

00:08:25.960 No, they've got no bargaining position whatsoever.

00:08:30.100 You know, Facebook and Google can just sit back and hope they cave.

00:08:34.200 I mean, could you say...

00:08:35.380 Even if they don't care, they don't care, right?

00:08:37.220 And this is going to be a test ground, not only for Canada,

00:08:41.900 but for when they do the same thing in the United States, the European Union.

00:08:45.740 Those are the next battles.

00:08:47.220 So you sure as hell won't see Facebook capitulate in Canada.

00:08:51.240 Corey, I do want to make one point.

00:08:52.860 And just because we happen to be on the side of Meta and Google at this point on this very issue, because they are also our paper boys, doesn't mean that we think they're always the good guys.

00:09:14.260 they did

00:09:16.480 as I said a moment ago

00:09:18.380 they did operate as an arm

00:09:20.600 of the government willingly

00:09:22.000 like these people were keen

00:09:24.540 they had trolls out there 0.82

00:09:26.220 looking for anything that

00:09:28.100 ought to be interrupted

00:09:29.880 because it was misinformation or disinformation

00:09:32.440 people couldn't have a voice 0.99

00:09:34.840 perfectly reasonable people

00:09:36.580 couldn't have a voice

00:09:37.560 and so that was bad

00:09:39.440 and by the way it is still an awful creepy thing

00:09:42.940 when you and I talk about dog food because we both got dogs and five minutes later all the ads

00:09:50.960 start popping up in our feed you know for some special dog food or other that is that I don't

00:09:57.080 like that you know no something going on something is going on and we all I think pretty now pretty

00:10:03.500 much everybody now has got a story like that well and that is part of where I think maybe the

00:10:07.680 government has some it feels they have something I mean these are the large you know uh mega

00:10:12.860 corporations they point to those huge dollars they use those terms that those two words that

00:10:17.180 drive me bananas whenever you see it fair share oh yeah yeah what would be fair so they say that

00:10:22.620 they're bringing in this sort of gross revenue every year and they aren't paying their fair

00:10:26.940 share but do you think in desperation they won't back off on the bill they might get more punitive

00:10:31.580 and say well we're gonna do a windfall tax that's one of their favorite little terms they like using

00:10:36.140 to. You made too much, and we're just going to reach in and take it. What did you put it beyond

00:10:42.920 them? I mean, that would certainly escalate the battle to a whole new level, but...

00:10:45.940 You never know with the Liberals, right? I mean, who knows what they're planning?

00:10:50.560 You know, maybe in a, you know, there's rumors of a cabinet shuffle coming up. Maybe Rodriguez

00:10:56.120 gets the boot and some fresh eyes come in and take a look at it. You know, you just don't know,

00:11:02.460 You know, I think the most, the freshest eyes that are likely to look at this thing would be, you know, a conservative government whenever the next election comes around, whether it's in October of 2025.

00:11:15.500 I did check up just to see what the party line was, and Richelle Harder, the Lethbridge MP, she's actually the shadow cabinet minister, and Richelle Harder, she's Richelle Thomas now, she got married.

00:11:29.960 And Rachel Thomas, the shadow heritage minister, is saying that they would replace Bill C-18

00:11:36.280 if they were elected in the next election.

00:11:39.880 So that's a campaign promise early from the...

00:11:42.940 Is that a promise to replace or to repeal?

00:11:45.320 She used the word replace.

00:11:47.420 And since you mention it, and this will be in the editorial that I wrote about this,

00:11:54.040 which is going out in approximately...

00:11:56.480 Oh, it's already out, isn't it?

00:11:58.360 So it's going to be, I would much prefer that they destroy the thing and grind it up into small pieces rather than replace it.

00:12:09.380 But replace, at least they're going to look at it.

00:12:12.900 Well, I mean, it's something positive to look forward to.

00:12:15.600 It's just that the thing to remind people, liberal supporters or whatnot, it's not, even if it feels like it, they will not be in power forever.

00:12:22.600 And do you want the next government to have this ability to control media as well?

00:12:26.780 Because they might not let go of that power as quickly as they say.

00:12:29.580 No, I don't think they will.

00:12:30.720 Because don't forget, we're talking here about Bill C-18.

00:12:33.120 But there's also Bill C-11, which gives the CRTC, which is an arm of government, which is an enforcement arm of government, the power to limit what Canadians can post on the Internet.

00:12:50.360 So this is actually a much bigger package just than the C-18 that we're talking about today.

00:12:56.300 which is purely to do with the supposed remuneration of Canadian newspapers and TV and radio for what goes out on the social media.

00:13:08.600 There's a much bigger issue here.

00:13:09.860 I remember when this was happening in Australia, and sort of one of the big arguments against Google and Facebook was

00:13:16.420 they're putting people's lives in danger, all right, because of potential natural disasters or a revolution by the kangaroos.

00:13:25.860 Now, I was thinking about it this week when a massive tornado had disappeared.

00:13:29.900 You know, how without social media, without news on social media, how are you going to warn people?

00:13:34.980 You know, I mean, how are you going to get them into their basements?

00:13:37.340 How are you going to cover the storm?

00:13:40.380 I don't think anybody's been asking those type of questions.

00:13:42.800 I mean, it's not like so many people are, I mean, this is not a knock on the radio industry.

00:13:47.560 I've got friends there, but I mean, it's not like people are sitting tuned into the radio where they're likely to hear a warning.

00:13:53.740 and the most you're going to get is a beep on one of these things here.

00:13:57.960 And then you want to Google Storm Didsbury Tornado and be blank.

00:14:03.980 I'd like to think some of these social media platforms would make exceptions.

00:14:08.500 I mean, that's the sort of thing you can.

00:14:09.600 You can set something at a level.

00:14:10.980 Okay, we're going to – this is an emergency.

00:14:12.900 We will put these links through.

00:14:15.000 If it's another press release from Justin Trudeau, yeah, good luck finding that thing.

00:14:19.420 But, you know, when the fires are burning, I would think –

00:14:22.120 I would hope they would.

00:14:22.960 I guess it remains to be seen. What a bizarre, ugly mess this whole thing's turned into.

00:14:29.240 Speaking of bizarre, weird messes, let's get on to our national file as well.

00:14:34.020 So the carbon tax and the second carbon tax and Quebec.

00:14:38.600 Ottawa has given Quebec special status on top of their existing special status.

00:14:45.440 Yeah, once again, good work from our friends at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:14:50.380 They delve into all these figures so you and I don't have to because we wouldn't understand them.

00:14:55.860 But, yeah, Quebec pays less carbon tax than anybody else in the country, 10 cents per liter right now as opposed to 14 cents where you and I fill up, Corey.

00:15:07.440 So, you know, you just wonder why, you know, why a sweetheart deal for Quebec?

00:15:12.760 And if Quebec can get it, why is the rest of Canada subsidizing it?

00:15:17.520 Well, not that I have a business of explaining what the Quebec government does

00:15:23.960 and what their point of view is, but they would tell you that they were smart

00:15:29.360 and 10 years ago entered into a commercial arrangement with California,

00:15:34.360 whereby they would trade carbon credits.

00:15:36.980 So they are still working under that, and it works out that that's the price on the market.

00:15:43.260 That's what works.

00:15:44.800 Now, that's what they say.

00:15:47.520 Again, I have a feeling that they're being slightly disingenuous.

00:15:52.320 There's probably a little more to it than that.

00:15:55.480 But it doesn't alter the fact that the federal governors, if it was Alberta or Saskatchewan or even B.C.

00:16:05.340 that had entered into some kind of a commercial arrangement with California or any other state to trade carbon emissions.

00:16:14.860 and it worked out that we were only paying 10 cents when Ontario was paying 14 something would

00:16:24.060 be done to make sure that we were averaged up and pay our fair share and as of this moment

00:16:34.780 I have not heard any plans coming out of Ottawa to make sure that Quebec pays the same as everybody

00:16:42.540 else if i was a betting man i wouldn't be wagering too much on the plan coming and i certainly

00:16:47.660 wouldn't be holding my breath so you're you're right david it's a racket the favoritism for

00:16:53.900 quebec i mean we know why you know we talk around the bottom line is it that's the only way to buy

00:16:58.220 their electoral love or at least that's the way every government feels is the only way to do it

00:17:02.300 whether it's equalization whether it's contracts whether you name it quebec always has a special

00:17:08.780 deal. I mean, even the seats in the House of Commons now, apparently their population change

00:17:13.020 doesn't even apply to them any longer. Yeah, they complained to high heaven when they were going to

00:17:19.500 take a seat away from them in Parliament because the population doesn't support it anymore,

00:17:26.060 and they weren't happy about that, were they? It just causes Canadians to roll their eyes,

00:17:32.620 but I think people have just given up on being upset about it anymore.

00:17:36.780 you know i think you're right uh there and this is actually the tragedy of

00:17:44.300 canadian life at the moment is that there are there are so many things that calls you especially

00:17:51.660 as a western canadian but let's not forget there are people who think straight in ontario maybe

00:17:56.300 just not enough of them but uh you know as a canadian there are so many things that cause you

00:18:03.420 to roll your eyes that you do give up and what is it you're giving up on it's giving up on being

00:18:13.660 angry at things that aren't right and not caring about what about your country this was a very

00:18:21.900 muted canada day through which we have just come uh it it is actually sad that what should be a day

00:18:28.940 of celebration is now muted.

00:18:37.320 I always used to think that it was symbolic that when they did the fly past over Parliament

00:18:43.960 Hill for Canada Day, it was always a troop of non-combatant aircraft, the tutors, wonderful

00:18:53.520 The Snowbirds are a wonderful display team, but they're not a fighting unit exactly.

00:18:59.540 That's how we chose to portray ourselves when what we might have done would have been have, you know,

00:19:06.320 a squadron of CF-18s come over and just remind people that this is a strong country.

00:19:13.380 It has force and power.

00:19:15.960 Now, I don't want to sort of get sidetracked on that completely because that's just airplanes on a special day,

00:19:20.800 But it's symbolic of how this government plays down everything that Canadians used to take pride in.

00:19:29.700 And actively try and change our history.

00:19:31.340 And actively try and change our history, our passports, and all the symbiotic.

00:19:35.780 I mean, taking somebody like Terry Fox out of the passport, what is the message there, for heaven's sake?

00:19:41.680 It's a good guy.

00:19:43.260 You know, he had guts.

00:19:44.240 He was a hero.

00:19:44.960 He was a legitimate hero.

00:19:47.160 So that's not suitable anymore?

00:19:49.520 we're not supposed to be proud of anything but not even just one day of the year you know and

00:19:55.100 we've been seeing that I think particularly so since the the situation in Kamloops with the

00:20:00.980 anomalies found in the residential school site but they've really pushed that you know that's

00:20:05.100 where Canada Day should be as you said muted it should be a day where we introspection as to how

00:20:11.540 nasty our forefathers have been and all the terrible things and it's just not it's not right

00:20:17.440 We have so many other days of observance of all the things that have gone wrong.

00:20:20.920 Can we not have one to just celebrate the things we get along on,

00:20:25.060 the things that we share, and more so every year?

00:20:28.680 I mean, you know, the fireworks battle this year.

00:20:32.020 It's the death of a thousand cuts,

00:20:34.020 but they feel that we should be staring at our shoes on Canada Day,

00:20:37.460 not celebrating it.

00:20:38.600 And if you were on Parliament Hill on Canada Day,

00:20:40.980 you got to hear the Chinese national anthem, right, sung there.

00:20:45.380 I mean, it's a bizarro world, for sure.

00:20:49.820 I suppose you can't control the crowd

00:20:51.320 if they suddenly break out into this song.

00:20:55.700 But what we didn't hear was a word of condemnation

00:20:58.100 from anybody within the federal government.

00:21:02.140 I don't know.

00:21:02.960 I went looking for it on the internet, and I couldn't find it.

00:21:05.880 Maybe the hand has come down already on Canadian news.

00:21:09.540 But I didn't hear anybody, like, for example,

00:21:12.860 a heritage minister, getting out there

00:21:15.240 and saying, well, listen, that was a, that's something that we're going to be talking to some

00:21:21.640 people about that. It's not supposed to happen. You want to sing on Canada Day? You want to sing

00:21:25.960 on Parliament Hill? We've got a great song for you. It's called Oh Canada. Well, let's segue

00:21:30.820 in a little into what we'll go into next. And before I go fully into that, just another thing

00:21:35.840 that ties into it. I mean, it's hitting the news as well. Ben and Jerry's ice cream. Okay. It's

00:21:40.320 American company, but they put out their things observing Canada Day, too, and they've jumped on the woke bandwagon, and we're talking about Canada Day and stolen land.

00:21:50.380 Like, again, wow, we've got a foreign ice cream company chiding us on our one day of the year. 0.92

00:21:58.800 And it's already started a boycott.

00:22:01.000 You know, people saw that, and we're rightly outraged by it.

00:22:06.320 They don't even think they should do that.

00:22:08.260 Why delve into that?

00:22:09.380 They did the same thing for July the 4th with their American customers.

00:22:16.240 To me, I just don't understand the marketing that's going on by these big companies these days.

00:22:23.620 Ben & Jerry's, Budweiser, Mulvaney, Fiasco.

00:22:28.080 What are they thinking?

00:22:29.320 You know, Dave, I don't claim to understand it.

00:22:35.040 But I did hear one anecdote that shone a bit of light in one dark corner.

00:22:41.880 Now, I can't mention the names because it was a private conversation, but it was a national consulting company.

00:22:49.460 You would have heard of it.

00:22:51.820 And the principles fit into our demographic, old guys, white guys, you know, traditional guys,

00:23:01.100 the kind who go out on Canada Day and have a few beers and watch the fireworks and just enjoy it.

00:23:08.700 And it was their younger generation of employees who came to them and said,

00:23:14.920 we've got to do something for Pride Month.

00:23:16.800 And they said, why?

00:23:17.980 Oh, well, we must.

00:23:19.180 We've got to be part of the scene.

00:23:21.360 So, and they didn't know what to say, apparently, 1.00

00:23:24.260 and so they put out some stupid thing for Pride Month. 0.99

00:23:27.700 Now, that, I think, is what we are seeing is the full fruition of the long march through the institutions that has been undertaken by the progressive left. 0.99

00:23:44.180 These are the people who believe in critical race theory and the folks who basically own and operate the victim industry.

00:23:54.880 and they started in the universities and they moved into the teaching colleges

00:23:59.940 and the teachers who graduated from the teaching colleges moved into the schools.

00:24:06.060 And eventually, they have, over a period of about 50 years,

00:24:10.400 it's not called a long march for nothing.

00:24:13.160 It didn't happen overnight.

00:24:14.800 But now you have got a broad consensus on a range of issues in people under 40

00:24:21.180 who are now moving into spots where they can make decisions

00:24:24.960 such that you can have a well-established company

00:24:29.580 that's been around for a long time

00:24:31.180 with a group of people inside

00:24:33.540 who are now in junior and mid-management positions

00:24:35.960 say, well, you know, we think that we ought to do something about this.

00:24:39.480 And these guys at the top don't know what to say.

00:24:42.160 They've not been tracking this.

00:24:44.020 They're very good at their business,

00:24:45.720 but they're not monitoring the culture.

00:24:48.200 they don't have their finger on the pulse of this of this stuff you know there's a very good article

00:24:54.440 i'm going to shamelessly plug mark milkey's book here for a second the 1867 project there is an

00:25:00.040 excellent chapter in there by a queen's university professor by the name of bruce party lays all this

00:25:06.280 out in full it's not a long read um in fact we actually um i do believe that we uh we run it

00:25:13.400 in its entirety here but in any case that's what's going on and there's a

00:25:18.980 younger generation coming along and they just think this is a normal thing to do

00:25:23.720 the right thing to do first of all who are you calling old and but I do agree 0.96

00:25:30.080 with I do agree with you I mean you look at all the stuff thrown at young school

00:25:36.320 kids these days you know pride month a pronoun sexual identity gender you know

00:25:41.840 by the time they get to grade six they have to be confused about what they are right they just have

00:25:46.240 to be because they're they're just exposed to it every you know every every day in class if they

00:25:52.240 seem too certain they'll be scolded for it absolutely they will uh it's catching up with

00:25:58.240 us but i mean it's just backfiring in some of these companies too which has been interesting

00:26:01.760 to me cost budweiser billions and billions and billions like i mentioned target too i mean you

00:26:06.320 know people there just want to get cheap consumer goods and they didn't want children's rainbow 0.99

00:26:11.280 clothing i mean whether you agree or disagree with it it just wasn't a good marketing decision

00:26:15.440 well it wasn't so why are ben and jerry's jumping on it yeah they're a little smaller though and

00:26:20.960 they do they're known as a lefty kind of activist company they always have been but

00:26:29.360 companies want to make money they care about the bottom line i mean starbucks was started

00:26:33.440 by a bunch of hippies as far as i heard and now you know they're the guys who indented the

00:26:37.840 into the five dollar cup of coffee some people are delusional too though i mean i i did some

00:26:42.080 of the feedback i got on the esg piece i wrote which is kind of about that yeah sort of thing

00:26:46.880 i wrote it and i said you know the goal of a corporation is to make money that's it that's

00:26:50.480 their role if i invest my pension or whatever that's what i want them to do some people were

00:26:55.280 furious with me oh do you think they should just see heartless soulless things for generating money

00:27:00.800 yes yes like there's activist groups there's churches there's every other sort of thing

00:27:06.320 where you can go out and bleed your heart all over the sidewalk.

00:27:09.060 But for my pension, I just want to make money.

00:27:10.500 That's all.

00:27:11.540 Don't go into that extra stuff.

00:27:12.980 But they were furious with me for even saying that.

00:27:15.240 And they claim, oh, I'll invest based on ESG scores.

00:27:18.120 Well, good for you.

00:27:19.740 I doubt it.

00:27:20.560 I don't believe it for a second.

00:27:21.760 If your pension fund starts losing money, you're going to demand change.

00:27:25.760 Yeah.

00:27:26.140 This is what I don't understand, Ben and Jerry.

00:27:28.020 Were those two guys in a cave for the last six months?

00:27:30.260 Did they not hear what happened to Budweiser and Target?

00:27:33.120 And, you know, okay, if you want to maybe launch a indigenous awareness campaign, okay, do it.

00:27:41.240 Don't do it on Canada Day, though.

00:27:43.200 Don't do it on Independence Day in the United States.

00:27:45.820 You're just going to piss off your market, or a lot of your market, anyways.

00:27:50.780 So, speaking of symbols of a nation, I guess, are things that, you know, unify, celebrate, of course, a national anthem.

00:27:56.640 That's something every country has.

00:27:59.200 It tends to be shared.

00:28:00.880 Sometimes they change, but it looks like we've got perhaps a movement afoot to change Canada's national anthem yet again.

00:28:08.280 And it sounds a lot like what we've been talking about already.

00:28:11.240 Yeah, it's our prime minister again on Canada Day saying he would be open to changing some lyrics.

00:28:18.560 We have had changes in the past decade or so.

00:28:23.460 A lot of people don't like them, though.

00:28:25.460 a lot of, you know, you go to a hockey game, you still see most of the crowd singing the old stuff

00:28:29.720 and whatnot. But again, another liberal policy coming down the pipe to try and change who we are.

00:28:38.280 Well, this change that's proposed in particular is more divisive, I think, than even talking about,

00:28:44.500 okay, our son's command, whether it's excluding women or whatnot. But this, I mean, the change

00:28:50.400 proposed is changing it to our home on native land. I could see

00:28:54.840 this is getting us into the legal soup if we start referring

00:28:59.280 to the country as such. This mythology, again, back to the

00:29:03.600 stolen land thing and staring at your feet and shame and

00:29:06.780 apologies. And I'm sick to death of it. I'm sick of it. 0.90

00:29:10.980 It's an interesting conflict of ideas when on the one hand, the

00:29:17.220 The federal government is clearly sympathetic to this idea, but at the same time, they're

00:29:22.340 bringing more land thieves in every year.

00:29:25.360 You know, what is the target now, 500,000, immigration, put your policies together.

00:29:33.560 If you think that this is a bad thing, well, maybe at least pause what you're doing over

00:29:39.500 here while you get this straight over here.

00:29:45.860 message from the intolerant to any new Canadians new immigrants of the past was

00:29:49.640 always the go back where you came from you know but this is a version of and

00:29:55.460 we've seen a lot of that where everybody who's non-indigenous it doesn't matter 0.98

00:29:59.960 if it's four generations down I mean that's the height of racism but

00:30:04.040 basically saying you don't belong here you you and they don't say your

00:30:07.400 ancestors anymore they say you stole this land you should be yeah again where

00:30:13.160 am I supposed to go back to? It's baloney, but talk about divisive and entrenching that

00:30:21.540 intolerant point of view. And that's what we're getting to is, I mean, could you imagine

00:30:28.280 if it was 50 years ago, we wanted to change it to our home on white man's land? This is

00:30:32.500 kind of what they're saying is that the home on this particular race is land. But he's 0.90

00:30:38.160 considering it yeah well he says he wants to hear from lots of canadians so i'm sure he will

00:30:43.820 i'm sure he'll only listen to the ones he wants to hear from but uh maybe it's time that people

00:30:51.760 do actually stop being complacent stop being against stop you were talking just now about

00:30:59.580 you hear so much you get sort of fed up with it you don't want to even bother listening anymore

00:31:04.940 Well, maybe this is one, if you care about it, you should say something, do something.

00:31:09.300 The land of both of our births just changed the words in their national anthem last year.

00:31:15.760 From king to queen, or from queen to king.

00:31:18.540 One word, one word.

00:31:20.180 Too controversial.

00:31:21.520 But yeah, no controversy whatsoever.

00:31:24.160 But yeah, well, the things that bind us, and we seem to just undercut our own feet.

00:31:31.820 Getting on to another tradition that's coming up.

00:31:34.040 And, again, there's some people who have problems with that one as well.

00:31:36.280 But I think most in Calgary celebrate it.

00:31:38.280 But our Calgary Stampede is coming up here.

00:31:41.500 Yahoo.

00:31:43.380 Such enthusiasm.

00:31:45.880 Come on, you're going to be cosplaying next week.

00:31:48.440 Corey, I've been covering the Stampede now for like four decades.

00:31:55.260 It's hard for me to get excited anymore.

00:31:57.160 But I know people are.

00:31:58.360 Our young reporter from out east, Jonathan, he's looking forward to trying.

00:32:04.040 uh prairie oysters for the first time uh we'll see we'll see how that goes uh you know you always

00:32:11.640 know if you're if you're a true calgarian you get out of town for for these two weeks uh if you like

00:32:16.920 fun and having parties and uh paying a lot of money for a corn dog then yeah it's a great time

00:32:23.400 parade's always great uh so yeah i'm just not a stampede guy but you know don't don't take

00:32:29.640 my word for it it's uh if you haven't been there it's certainly fun uh certainly eye-opening for

00:32:34.760 the for the first time visitors but i would be a 40th time visitor so i know where every mini

00:32:41.160 donut store is i know where every washroom is you know it's it's not for me personally but i know

00:32:47.720 others that love it i'll tell you what i am for anything that gives people a chance to blow off

00:32:54.680 some steam get out and have some fun i understand everything you said and as i say my wife and i are

00:33:01.560 out of town on a wedding anniversary so i'm not going to be there to live my own words but one of

00:33:07.080 the one of the sad things about living in this country at the moment are the things that we have

00:33:14.440 just been talking about everything is designed to be serious to make you think about who you are

00:33:21.400 and where you came from and whether your great great grandfather should have ever got on the boat

00:33:28.840 we we overthink stuff in canada and it's by design it's deliberate it's a political ploy

00:33:35.560 people derive political power from heaping guilt upon us well i say that let's have a little less

00:33:43.880 guilt and a hell of a lot more fun go drink a few beers don't drive when you drink when you're

00:33:48.520 drinking but go out have fun and a good time at this calgary stampede it's a great celebration i

00:33:56.840 guess i'm just an old curmudgeon well i guess you are in which case that makes me an endangered

00:34:03.640 species happy anniversary by the way thank you very much 20 wonderful years 20 good years for

00:34:10.760 judy myself we're just giving that warning too because part of the funny i mean calgary the

00:34:14.680 The statement's kind of unique.

00:34:15.880 You know, there's festivals and cities all over the place.

00:34:17.860 And there's not many, though, where the whole city kind of gets up and gets involved

00:34:21.280 or retreats and hides whilst the youngsters go and party downtown.

00:34:25.900 But, you know, everywhere people can wear jeans for the week rather than their usual dress code.

00:34:30.440 Or you're going to see me in my goofy cosplay outfit with my cowboy hat on and my shirt for the shows next week

00:34:36.500 because it's the only time of the year I can get out of the tie and wear some jeans in here.

00:34:40.920 But it's lighten up, have fun, that's all.

00:34:43.700 You know, Cory, how many cities actually put on a city-wide week of giving away breakfast?

00:34:51.700 You know? It is the ultimate hospitality event.

00:34:55.380 It's unique. Like, you don't see too many places where the whole city, you'll see, okay,

00:34:58.500 ours is festival goes down here or this event there. Aside from perhaps in New Orleans or

00:35:03.220 Mardi Gras and the whole French Quarter goes bananas, Calgary's gonna be a whole city-wide.

00:35:08.500 Again, it is tiresome for some of us who've seen 40 or more of them, but

00:35:11.620 But it's just something, again, to enjoy and celebrate.

00:35:14.800 In a lot of cities, it's the envy of a lot of cities.

00:35:16.680 Even if we do have a mayor who also kind of said we should be moving beyond this.

00:35:20.500 Well, we should be moving beyond the mayor.

00:35:23.540 You don't hear any disagreement from me.

00:35:25.760 All right.

00:35:26.540 We'll cap off with something very rare.

00:35:28.600 This is, you know, speaking of old Western statements, as rare as hen's teeth.

00:35:32.340 Sounds like an apology from the Mother Corps. 0.96

00:35:35.140 The state broadcaster, this is just breaking news, just happened about an hour ago.

00:35:39.260 I remember back in January, they published a very controversial story alleging that Daniel Smith, the Premier, was interfering with the Coutts border trials by sending emails to Crowns, basically urging them to discontinue.

00:35:58.500 To the Crown prosecutors.

00:35:59.200 Yeah, to the Crown prosecutors. Well, CBC stood by the story and Premier Smith got up and said it wasn't true and demanded an apology or she would take legal action. The ethics commissioner also did a report and said these emails couldn't be found. A search of all the government emails at the time couldn't turn up anything.

00:36:21.740 Well, the CBC decided to go re-interview their sources, who now say, well, they can't really remember where the emails came from, whether it was the Premier's office or not.

00:36:34.500 And they say they didn't apologize, though.

00:36:36.980 I'm sure they had a lawyer write this apology.

00:36:39.280 It's quite lengthy.

00:36:41.080 They say they regret it.

00:36:43.260 So this is a story that could have cost Premier Smith her job.

00:36:48.060 And we were talking at the time that we thought the timing was strange, you know, just about, you know, when we were going to start an election in a month or so, that it was maybe done deliberately.

00:37:00.280 But, you know, it was a vicious attack that turned out to be untrue, and the CBC regrets it.

00:37:09.540 I think it expressed regret.

00:37:11.140 But it's no, when we talk about timing, I mean, timings are rarely real coincidences that happen in the political and media world.

00:37:19.800 And I think the fact that CBC got to the point where they will bend enough to express regret,

00:37:25.860 it's no coincidence that, of course, this is after the general election has finished, not during or before it.

00:37:31.960 Yeah, you think they could have checked with their sources, you know, when the controversy first erupted several months ago, but no.

00:37:38.820 Well, you know, Smith still has the option.

00:37:42.420 I doubt that she'll pursue it, but she still has the option to sue them anyway.

00:37:46.580 By putting out a regret, they at least diminish the damages.

00:37:54.280 But, no, it has every – we can't get inside their heads, unfortunately,

00:38:00.100 but it has every appearance of being an underhanded, deceitful maneuver on their part.

00:38:06.620 A spear jumper. 0.85

00:38:07.680 Absolutely.

00:38:08.200 It did. I mean, to be, you know, for the other side of it, Premier Smith didn't do herself any favor. Sitting down, having a conversation with Mr. Pawlowski, who was at that time under charges. It's an indiscretion on the part of a Premier that shouldn't have happened. I think nobody's more well aware of that than Premier Smith now.

00:38:28.840 but it fed this. But this was one more thing on top of that that I'm sure cast a lot of doubt

00:38:37.040 and mistrust into the voters prior to election day. It didn't cost her the election, but

00:38:41.480 well, we've had some seven vote, 30 vote differences. It might have caused some seats.

00:38:45.440 And there were calls for her to resign because it is a serious, serious allegation that she's

00:38:50.460 trying to interfere with the courts of justice. Well, I heard it reported today that the RCMP

00:38:54.740 is investigating it now. That was just on the news today as well. They're investigating to

00:38:58.420 if there'll be any criminal sanction over this. I very much doubt it. I mean, I think the RCP is

00:39:05.540 only going to respond because the NDP is screaming and demanding, we'll look into it. And eventually

00:39:09.620 they'll say, no, we didn't find anything. But that makes the news headlines again. Yeah.

00:39:13.460 Yeah. How long has their investigation into the kamikaze candidate lasted a few decades?

00:39:19.380 It's still going on. You know, and I almost think for those who really do have an agenda,

00:39:25.220 who don't like the conservatives, the only thing worse than actually finishing an investigation,

00:39:29.440 even convicting one of them, is leaving it hanging like that for years.

00:39:32.540 Then you can just keep reopening that wound of mistrust all the time, and there's never a closure.

00:39:39.020 Yeah, I would think if the ethics minister didn't,

00:39:41.720 and what we're talking about here is a conversation between Smith and Tyler Chandrell,

00:39:46.520 the justice minister, and if the ethics commissioner didn't recommend a police review of it,

00:39:53.760 then I don't think it's going anywhere.

00:39:55.220 Oh, and Mr. Chandra was now out of, ironically, and he caught a lot of flack during his time

00:40:03.700 and he was a controversial minister, but it seemed he did the right thing. He stood his

00:40:09.220 ground as a minister. The parallels between that and what happened with Trudeau and SNC

00:40:13.300 were hard to miss. The minister in charge was saying, look, this isn't an appropriate

00:40:19.820 conversation i can't act on these uh things on your direction please stop asking it's just that

00:40:26.780 smith didn't persist like trudeau as long as we're talking about tyler chandra we can use him as a

00:40:32.620 case of where if you are appointed a minister then you are appointed to take the heat on a certain

00:40:43.740 file and do the unpleasant things while allowing the premier to not be personally responsible for

00:40:52.620 those things so Chandra was appointed by Jason Kenney and there was a there was an issue and

00:41:05.020 there always is an issue about what health care costs and what doctors charge and what nurses earn 1.00

00:41:11.580 and whoever gets that file

00:41:15.900 and right now it's Adriana LaGrange

00:41:17.760 so welcome to the happy place

00:41:21.460 you're going to find yourself

00:41:25.480 making decisions

00:41:27.240 for which people are going to throw rocks at you

00:41:30.340 whether Mr. Chandra

00:41:33.420 always put it gently

00:41:36.560 that's a matter of opinion

00:41:38.680 I know him slightly, he seems a pretty decent guy to me, but, you know, anybody who gets

00:41:47.240 the job of a minister in a high profile position like health or education, there's a couple

00:41:55.460 of others, is going to find themselves sometimes out there standing on the rock while the waters

00:42:02.040 are swirling around them and they're getting wet as hell. 0.60

00:42:04.180 so it's part of the job

00:42:06.460 and if you do it well you get rewarded

00:42:08.900 ultimately by

00:42:10.440 another appointment

00:42:12.180 you get moved out of the hot spot for a while

00:42:14.280 but I don't see how

00:42:16.920 I don't really see

00:42:21.080 how Shandro could have done other than

00:42:22.920 what he did

00:42:23.700 when he was on that file

00:42:25.740 and he certainly has

00:42:28.780 paid a price and personal

00:42:30.640 reputation for it

00:42:31.740 we will not leave him alone

00:42:34.000 So anyway, God bless him for trying.

00:42:36.540 Yeah, well, that's it.

00:42:37.800 I mean, whenever you dig with this story, you found, well, again,

00:42:40.940 it seems like perhaps Premier Smith didn't understand that delineation she should have between this.

00:42:45.760 Well, he did.

00:42:46.760 Mr. Chandra certainly did.

00:42:47.620 He certainly did.

00:42:48.360 And he spoke up.

00:42:50.020 I'll bet you she's lost Pawlowski's number by now.

00:42:53.320 I should hope so.

00:42:55.560 He's too busy talking to the European Parliament.

00:42:57.500 That's right, he did.

00:42:58.580 And his son addressed the European Parliament yesterday.

00:43:00.840 time to reject his passport. I'm sure we'll get some contacts over that. I've never pretended

00:43:08.780 to be a fan of... Well, you've already, you once called for the withdrawal of Mr. Trudeau's

00:43:13.060 passport, so you've got like a list of people who shouldn't be allowed out of their

00:43:16.880 hometowns or something. Yeah, once they're gone, I'm sorry, that's it. They're yours now. Enjoy.

00:43:23.700 You should warn the people of Latvia and Lithuania that Trudeau's coming,

00:43:27.940 So I'm batting down the hatches.

00:43:29.480 Well, that's not right, because there's a lot of actually disgruntled Canadian soldiers in Latvia right now.

00:43:33.880 I would have thought Prime Minister Trudeau would be avoiding that place for everything he's worth.

00:43:38.880 I mean, he loves showering money on Ukraine when he goes over there to visit, 0.86

00:43:43.160 but he doesn't have to deal with soldiers in Latvia who don't even have helmets.

00:43:47.400 But you're not going to see a soldier in Latvia who had to go to the hardware store to buy a proper helmet.

00:43:52.820 They're not going to get anywhere near Trudeau.

00:43:54.640 It'll just be a couple of smiling, happy soldiers.

00:43:58.940 In their photo ops, he'll show his camouflage socks off,

00:44:01.660 and he'll fly back to torment us for the rest of the summer.

00:44:09.080 Unfortunately, you're probably right.

00:44:11.060 Another thing to look forward to, the Stampede, the annual visit from Trudeau.

00:44:15.920 Yes.

00:44:16.260 Well, that's actually, that would be the meeting to be the fly on the wall out between Smith and Trudeau.

00:44:22.780 I mean, she sounded very determined on the radio this morning.

00:44:29.080 Was it radio?

00:44:30.000 It was a press conference.

00:44:30.980 It was a press conference, yeah.

00:44:31.900 Well, I guess I heard it on the radio.

00:44:34.900 They stopped putting Trudeau out in front of Stampede crowds years ago

00:44:39.220 because he just got nothing but booed.

00:44:42.780 Sneak him in for those quick events.

00:44:44.360 Yeah, they'll sneak him up to George Chahol's pancake breakfast,

00:44:48.680 sneak him down to the McDougal Center for meeting with Smith,

00:44:51.360 Sneak him to the airport, and that'll be it.

00:44:53.100 Yeah.

00:44:53.900 White hat in his hand.

00:44:55.420 Yeah, I'm sure he's got a collection.

00:44:56.980 Yeah, probably.

00:44:58.300 Well, that's enough out of us grumpy curmudgeon.

00:45:01.380 Old men. 0.98

00:45:02.020 Old men for this week, yes. 0.72

00:45:04.880 Well, I'm sure there'll be a whole raft more.

00:45:06.760 It's going to take a while to let that one down.

00:45:09.020 That's all right.

00:45:11.860 Yes, thank you very much for joining us and sharing that curmudgeonly input this week.

00:45:18.040 There's lots to cover.

00:45:19.920 It's always fun.

00:45:20.460 all right well thank you guys for tuning in and uh well keep an eye on things tune in next week

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