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The Western Standard's usual suspects are back to talk about the latest in Canadian politics, including the floor crossing on the floor of the House of Commons, Prime Minister Mark Carney's Iran flip-flip, and much, much more.
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Good day and welcome. Today is March 11th, 2026. I'm Derek Fuldebrand, publisher of
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the Western Standard and you're watching the pipeline I've got our usual crew
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rounded up here I got Western Standard former opinion editor Nigel Hannaford
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still has opinions senior Alberta columnist Cory Morgan always a pleasure
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and news editor Dave Naylor great to be here okay we're gonna talk about meltdown
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at the cbc uh former uh cbc host and journalist uh travis donraj uh was testifying before parliament
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yesterday and he had a few choice words and exposed uh a lot of the dirty inside workings
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of the cbc i hope none of you get to go with parliamentary immunity and spill your guts about
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the western standard uh yeah i don't know what's worst saving it for a book ah you're telling i
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retire yeah uh you can spill the beans on friday beers a beer o'clock drink at your desk friday
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things like that uh our notable lack of a dei policy it shows it's working
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only white anglo-saxon elderly males i get a tan in the summer so i get a little diversity
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points you know um so we're all off the order of canada by the way yeah all right um we're
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gonna talk about uh there was a floor crossing uh last night uh an ndp mp i think it was none
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of it. She crosses the floor to the Liberals. And then we've got three by-elections coming,
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two of which the Liberals are virtually guaranteed to take, a third of which they got a really good
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shot at. That looks like a Liberal majority effectively in the works here. We're going to
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talk about how likely is it, I say extremely likely, and what it's going to mean. And does
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that mean we're not going to have an early election? I don't know. But first we're going
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going to start with, what is Mark Carney's position on the Israel-Iran war today?
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Corey, when this first came up, Mark Carney says, Canada supports this. We're in. And then
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he supports it with regrets. And you've got a tattoo, I think it said, no regrets. So
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Canada supports it, then Canada supports it with
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authorization, but we're still okay with it without it.
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Wednesday evening. What do you think the position's going to be by the time we go to bed?
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I don't know. I mean, he's unpredictable, nothing else. Maybe he's trying to mimic the
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southern leader we have on the other side of the border. We don't ever quite know where
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Mr. Trump's coming from. To be fair, yeah, Trump's had even more positions on this war
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than Carney. The thing that gets me with Mark Carney is he's been actually kind of a bit of a
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dither or a flip-flopper since he began as prime minister, but it seems to work for him. It's not
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sticking with him. He's taking all sides and taking no sides and his support numbers just
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continue to grow. You know, most people, you would say that looks like weak leadership and
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disorganization and lack of control, but it seems to slide off of him. I mean, there's people who've
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written, they've talked about it. You can certainly see how and why the Liberal Caucus
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would be divided on this, you know, with the extent of any involvement or no involvement or
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even outright opposition but he seems to be trying to play to all of them and well again so far it's
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working and the irony of it all is to be honest Canada's stance on it's pretty close to absolutely
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irrelevant to the whole scene of things anyway so we don't have a military force that would have a
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serious impact within that and I don't think Canada's viewed after the damage that Trudeau
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did to our international reputation as a diplomatic force that really would have an impact with
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whatever side we took anyhow so carney's only concerns i think are domestic views of him and
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he seems to be playing it right somehow well you know maybe i don't know whether i would go with
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that he's uh he's he's playing it according to form some people can get away with that and some
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people can't polyeth could not get away with that but mr carney has for so long been uh saying well
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we've got we've got we've got an agreement well actually we've got a memorandum of understanding
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actually we sort of shook hands on it and well what what exactly are you committed to nothing
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you know and so then you can go and say well we support it we don't support it we're gonna get
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involved people just don't care anymore so well stick to him i think nigel corey is right that
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you know canada has no material for like even if can canada was yeah we want to be involved
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like we might get like latrine digging security version maybe we get to defend a rear forward
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position in bahrain like at best uh we're i guess maybe we could send a frigate or two maybe but
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there's nothing really material canada could do uh but similar to iraq you know george w bush did not
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necessarily need canadian boots on the ground besides he wanted a symbolic canadian presence
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you know for the coalition of the willing um they're not even really looking for that from
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anyone besides though israel wants it from the states but they're not looking really for anyone
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else at least at this time um so canada's material involvement doesn't really matter
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although i do have to worry when we saw the new canadian armed forces recruitment commercial a
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bunch of uh tough looking white guys in it for once uh that's the surest sign i've seen that
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we actually are going to be going to a big war soon now that they want our types again but um
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I'm a bit sympathetic-ish to Carney's stance here. I hate saying this, but you know what I
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think of the war. I think this is a bad, bad war. This is not in America's interest. It's not in
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Canada's interests. This is not our war in the West or Canada or America, period. But from the
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Canadian perspective, there is really only two objectives of Canadian foreign policy. One is
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keep the Americans happy, to domestic. Always. Canadian foreign policy is always at least 75%
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driven by domestic political concerns and 25% plus by keeping the Americans on side.
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Carney's really only advantage in one way or another was generally not to antagonize Trump.
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So even though I think the war is a bad idea, I think he probably took the smart stance in terms
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a foreign policy for not unduly attracting Trump's ire. Condemning it wouldn't do really anything
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because Canada has no political, no diplomatic weight anymore anyway, or at least anything if
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no, or somewhere, we rank somewhere around Denmark probably. So condemning it wouldn't make it any
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less likely to happen or bring peace any sooner. Sitting, putting boots on the ground wouldn't do
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anything. We have nothing to contribute anyway. So this was actually probably diplomatically the
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smartest position for him to take. Well, but you look at Donald Trump's reaction, yesterday he
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tweets that Carney is the future governor of Canada, right? So he's obviously, Trump has
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obviously taken notice of it and has, you know, stopped calling him prime minister and has said,
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you know, just like he used to insult Trudeau. Yeah, the actual, to the degree that Canada has
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a traditional stance on Iran, it is that we are very against this regime.
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Back in the Harper days, we closed their embassy for them.
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I'm not sure whether it ever did be opened or not.
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But certainly we were highly objected to the murder of a woman who was born in Iran
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good for him he should be well everybody's critical of it even people opposed to the war
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critical of it there is virtually no one besides crazy chmasnik types who are not critical of the
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regime well and there is something we could do i mean credit where we concluded last week if we're
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talking about the world that we could agree on domestically we could deal with something i mean
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this canada has apparently identified 700 irgc members in the country how they know i don't know
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with some sort of intelligence why don't we clean up around here we don't have to go overseas you
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don't have to get but we all kind of agree we don't want those types here well if we've identified
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them get them the hell out of here if an opponent to the war like me i'm all for that get rid of
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these guys this is something we can do because there is a concern with uh uh despite what they
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think they're asking for people saying they want to globalize the intifada these are the people
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who are going to globalize it for you if you keep them hanging around here globalize it means bring
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it at home here yeah sadly all flights to iran have been canceled at the moment well we don't
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have to we could charter something you know the museum and just wind it up conservatives today
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melissa lanceman and michelle rumple garner uh sort of said this is ridiculous we got 700 of
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these guys running around uh we want the liberals to come back with a policy what they're going to
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do with them within one week it's too urgent to delay any more we can pair we can pair drop them
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over or on yeah or one of those frigates i mean you know we could make room it's not like they're
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of modern armaments so just put them in steerage and send them on over steerage nobody's sent that
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since the titanic my word um so i mean the war is you know approaching approaching two weeks
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old now oh it's not a war what it was trump called it an excursion today
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america has not officially been on war since 1940. i mean it's it's pretty ridiculous and
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And that's a conspiracy of both the Democrats and the Republicans.
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They want to just have Congress vacate its power for declaring more.
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I can't say it hasn't gone according to the plan because we never really knew what the plan was.
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It was weapons of destruction in the first 24 hours.
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But maybe a new guy from within the regime takes power the way it was in Venezuela, who's just a bit more pliable and compliant.
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You have Khomeini's son, and he is, by some reports, even crazier.
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Well, missile strike should be less of a problem.
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Well, again, if they would just embrace the LGBTQ community, I suspect he's not impotent.
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They've just presented him with the wrong target.
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So anyway, we don't know what the goal is really here from, at least from the United States' perspective.
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I think I know Israel's idea, which is generally just to weaken Iran for regional power reasons.
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You know, one day it's, hey, we're done, almost, we're done more or less, kind of maybe.
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And then literally onwards later, Trump says, unconditional surrender.
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and if they don't open the Straits of Hormuz, we will destroy the nation, not the regime,
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the nation, so that it can never be rebuilt again.
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But the idea that this is going to lead to a quick uprising of the people overthrow the regime
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that does not appear to be happening, what this has done, both the military strikes and
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the way Trump's talk about destroying the nation, this has rallied people behind their
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So this could go into a long, dirty war. Iran knows now. If they weren't building a bomb before, I guarantee you they are building a bomb now. They've realized what happens if a country has a bomb, you don't get attacked. It's North Korea how well that works. They're even crazier in some ways than Iran. They don't get attacked.
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um so uh this could go on and on and on potentially is there a potential political
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liability now that carney even though we don't have troops there carney's going to have to wear
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this if this becomes because it's not popular even in america let alone canada if this goes on
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and turns into another big iraq style quagmire is there a political liability for carney here
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having at least on paper supported it with some regrets well he will simply say the situation was
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what it was when i've made those comments since then it's changed and uh well i stand against it
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and he will say something else the week following if it is suitable a man does not have
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consistent positions to be fair it makes it easier for him to back trap when that fluid
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situation changes i mean in reality this is all in trump's weird little orange hands i i mean
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whatever he determines to do it's i i don't forget what you said these crazy things he's not
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necessarily uh trying to inform us he's trying to confuse the enemy trying to extricate themselves
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i would hope i don't know i mean it's tough to get in their minds but i mean what more goal
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you've blown the main things out of there you're already now losing popular support
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If you want to look at just the cold-hearted way, the dollars are massive that you're pumping into there.
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It's not helping your own economy when you've got energy.
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So, I mean, I suspect the pressure's coming on pretty hard and fast for him to make his, say, well, we've made our point now and we'll back out and let Israel keep pecking that.
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These guys have, I think, gotten the message that it's not going to stop.
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They're going to get weaker and weaker and degraded.
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They were not as weak, it seems, as the Americans and Israelis were saying or thought.
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But the Iranians are going to look at this and say, well, why would we agree to peace now?
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Because they were attacked both times in the middle of negotiations.
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Generally, it's polite to break off negotiations before you send a carrier group to attack.
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So I'm not sure the Iranians necessarily just agreed to a ceasefire.
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You look, before the excursions started, tens of thousands of Iraqis took to the streets demanding an overthrow.
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The regime slaughtered 35,000 of them, according to reports.
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From back then, we would talk to a person from, there was a documentary piece on our radio, but with a woman who in her city, they had gone out and protested and they were wiped out with birdshot.
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But I mean, if it becomes, it looks like your liberators are worse than what you're dealt with, then that can change.
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Yeah, just yesterday, more than a million Tehranians, if that's the right word, gathered in a square for some of the funerals of the killed military.
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Whether they were all there willingly or not, I don't know.
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It's kind of a million people at gunpoint, though.
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We've seen through whispered regimes, too, though.
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I mean, if you don't show your face, the knock on the door comes later.
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Well, it might be good for your career to show up.
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I'm going to kill you if you don't go to a rally.
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Look at the Australian women's soccer team.
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They all had a chance to defect, and only five of them did
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because the regime was threatening their families at home.
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If you defect, go to the back of the head for grandpa and granddad.
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i'm sure there still is plenty of opposition to the regime in iran but when trump says we if you
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don't open the strait of hormuz we will destroy the nation so they can never be rebuilt again
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that's not going to help unconditional surrender unconditional surrender means we invade and
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occupy and dismember your country vis-a-vis germany 45 or nuke you vis-a-vis japan 45.
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No one likes that, even if you don't oppose the regime.
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You know, arguably the Second World War requirements for unconditional surrender made a speedy end of the war, even still victorious, impossible.
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People will then, who oppose, say, the Japanese regime or the German regime, they were like, well, I guess we're in it to the end.
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Because unconditional surrender means I'm being ethnically cleansed and destroyed and subjugated.
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people that will rally behind regimes they don't like if a foreign power that requires
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unconditional surrender. Thankfully, I don't think Trump understands what unconditional
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surrender actually means. I think he means that just means we win big. I think that's what he
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think it means. But it doesn't matter. The Iranians can now use that for propaganda. I can say, do you
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want to be like Germany or Japan in 1945? And the answer from even the most liberal dissident of the
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regime will be no the other part of that too that we haven't mentioned much of though is even if
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trump goes out israel's not going to rest until that threat's gone they've had enough that's kind
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of the culmination of october 7th the nuclear threat was destroyed in the 12 days before yeah
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we're talking about the money that goes to hezbollah hamas the houthis you name it said they
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go after the nukes again this time i understand but uh they are determined to make sure that iran's
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not in a position to start and it's gonna start again it's a cycle it seems but to knock that
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ability down as much as they humanly can because it is a threat that's just sitting there and it
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was a country we can't forget that it the leader said over and over and over again we're going to
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eliminate israel it's a very it's not an imagined threat to israel or perceived threat it was a very
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direct threat that was made i mean you can question whether or not the united states was
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justified in slapping at iran but israel any country when asked if they were provoked into
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fighting back they were quite well provoked yes 50 if the u.s stops their incursion today israel
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will continue it tomorrow though the u.s probably fund israel a lot to do that yeah welcome to
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geopolitical uh i don't know uh maybe this all this ends tomorrow you know that'd be that'd be
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nice that'd be good i'm not convinced it does because only last time uh i'm not sure iran
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necessarily at least agrees to a ceasefire and cries uncle well this will not end until they
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open up the straits of hormuz again you've got a lot of countries china among them who are
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very concerned about their ships stuck up the north end this is the card that iran has to play
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they seem to be able to keep the straits closed even with even with their navy at the bottom of
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the sea they seem to be able to keep those straits closed uh the the best case scenario
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is the war ends but the straits remain closed so alberta makes money that's win-win people that's
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How much do you want to pay for your gas, Derek? You've got a big truck.
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I will make that sacrifice for Alberta because we'll be swimming in money.
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We'll be able to fund our expansion into Interior BC.
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We're a retired gentleman and have to be careful about that sort of thing.
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Okay, so speaking of Carney, last night, I don't remember her name. Nobody knows.
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She's some backbencher, but an NDP, one of the last NDP,
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And, you know, we've always predicted it was likely they're going to get
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I mean, how conservative can Matt Jenneru and what else is his name?
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so maybe rethink that but uh government of national unity government yeah there you go um
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so uh she comes across last night and there's three by-elections coming up this looks like
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majority to you it does um for those who don't take care of the details there are 343 seats in
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the house of commons therefore to get a majority you need 172 but really you need 173 because
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your 172nd will become the speaker the other thing of course is nobody needs to get sick
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so this this defection from the ndp gives them 170 and they have three by-elections coming up
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two of them are pretty safe liberal seats so there's your 172.
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They kind of need one more really to have what they would call an operating majority,
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but it's a majority if it's 172. This woman from Nunavut actually won her seat by 100 votes
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from the Liberals. But there's so few voters in Nunavut that's not as close as you think.
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Well, true, but nevertheless, there is a fair amount of support for her locally going to the Liberal Party.
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So the thought that strikes me is that this is probably to the benefit of both the Liberals and the Conservatives.
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poll suggests conservatives wouldn't do very well if there was an election this spring
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but there are so many NDP voters just ready to come back to the NDP but it would cost the
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Liberal Party something they shouldn't assume that everything they have now they would have
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And the NDP lost 1.2 million votes over their 2021 vote score.
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$3 million in 2021 and $1.2 million in 2025, if a lot of those voters decided that, okay, we've made our point, we don't like what the liberals have been doing in sacking civil servants, we choose to believe Mr. Carney really likes the war in Iran, you know what, we're going back to the NDP.
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There's room there for the Liberals to lose on this too
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So Mr. Carney, I say, will do everything he can to avoid the election
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I think a lot of it's going to depend on who the new leader of the NDP is
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You may see some of those current NDPs thinking
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um they're all not cases abby lewis there's only two guys yeah those are the two likely front
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runners abby lewis does not have a seat and he's seen as more radical so who knows um but dave uh
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so there's three by-elections i think two of them are in toronto in very safe liberal seats i would
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put those pretty solidly in the liberal bag scarborough and uh university rosedale yeah
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But this seat was won by exactly one vote, technically, during the last election over the Bloc-Ibac-Op.
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but there was some small errors from Elections Canada
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that in a normal election not decided by one vote
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you could say I wouldn't have impacted the ultimate result either way
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so a court, I don't know if this ever happened before
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the Liberals could bring a lot of pork barrel spending to bear
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hey, this seat decides the balance of power in Parliament.
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It's funny with Quebec and Alberta and looking at the federal and the provincials
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because the PQ is surging in Quebec, but actually the bloc is sagging.
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And Alberta is looking similar, whereas at least UCP and independence-leaning support,
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And at the same time, we've seen the liberals are surging here.
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The conservatives aren't federally doing well in Alberta.
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So the block in that by-election might not be as strong as would have thought with a one-vote difference a year.
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I mean, at some point, I mean, the polls are looking great for Kearney right now.
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If they go up another point or two, the urge to call an election may become overwhelming for them.
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and just you know grab that majority it's gonna be hard super majority yeah it's gonna be hard
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to justify calling an election so soon after the last one when you have a majority but it will be
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the barest you can always majority find a way yeah it's nice i was pointing out i mean a
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functional majority even if all the stars line up looking that way but 173 i mean you're one
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bad case of the trots away from losing an ill-timed confidence vote uh you want to feel
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better to have a 10 or 15 vote buffer if you have a majority that's agreed but i mean uh even if you
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wanted to engineer his own defeat other parties could get cold feet the ndp sure does not want an
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election yet the conservatives do not they can't all skip the vote but a couple of them could skip
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the vote elizabeth may ah she's just happy to be there getting a paycheck at this point like we
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don't have that games played though i mean you don't have to engineer a defeat the confidence
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You can come up with a big bill of something so big and radical that suddenly you rethink, you know what, this is so important, we must take it to the electorate rather than the House of Commons.
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He's like, we need a mandate from the people for this budget.
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I was like, oh, no, we're going to get crushed by the PCs in this election.
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I was like, oh, my God, I hope they can't not call the election now.
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Even if he gets his majority, I think it delays an election from this spring.
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But, yeah, it's got to be tempting for Carney to pull it right now.
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He's going to get a second kick at the can here.
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I don't think he gets ousted before another election.
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But if he doesn't take the ring this time, that's it for Polyev.
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That calf, he's only got one more electoral shot.
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I mean, the only one who ever got two kicks in the can before, Paulie, was Harper.
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You know, two's considered pretty generous by our standards now for a non-NDB leader.
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Dave, I know you in the newsroom were covering this yesterday.
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uh travis donraj we um he issued a call for the cbc to broadcast his hearing uh at a parliamentary
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committee uh they did not do that right no no they did not but we did yeah we did and uh some
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other independent uh media outlets did and it was it was certainly must watch tv uh mr donraj as
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you may know got uh fired or let go from he resigned no and then they tried to not let him
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Anyways, he resigned because he'd lost editorial control over his show.
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He was told he couldn't hire, he couldn't bring on certain guests.
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He talked about an absolute toxic culture at the CBC where conservative voices are blacklisted.
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And he said there's a list of 46 people, I'm sure Corey's on it,
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that the CBC hosts are not allowed to interview.
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And apparently this came up through Rosie Barton, our favourite host,
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Those two came off looking absolutely terrible.
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David Cochran came off as a vile little man who called Tamara Leach trailer trash.
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Rosemary is the Trudeau-loving host of Power, not Power and Politics, but she's the CBC
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And it just exposed, he went on for a couple of hours, just exposed the absolute dire culture
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and the need for an absolute, either cutting the funding off or reforming it.
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or doing something with it because right now it's a 1.4 billion dollar black hole it's got no
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no viewership whatsoever and uh advertising rates continue to decline and they've got this
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this government subsidy to fight against other media you know for advertising it's absolutely
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stunning in his testimony he was he said that they had a list of 45 people in public life
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who they were not allowed to bring on the show but whoever's show it was he says i've got the list
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i want that list real bad i really want to be on that list no he said that he was going to give it
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to the committee yeah uh i know reporters asked cbc for that list yesterday and they refused to uh
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to give it up but they did but they didn't deny it exists our list yeah yeah i don't have a show
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so i don't have a list if we're ever going to be as tough and big as you know we need a blacklist
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we should have one damn it i mean we've got people we like and don't like but we don't have a list
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yeah not a formal list i mean it'd depend on the mood you know i mean if ratings were low and we
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wanted some insanity we could bring rachel gilmore on but would it be i i we've invited
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viewers i mean we've invited rachel you'll be productive yeah yeah you might have to add her
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to a list after see that that's what has been kind of the opposite of the cbc is i like having
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people i really hate the views of might even personally detest i love having them it makes
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for a way better show it's it's it's we're not look the four of us sit here most agreeing about
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most things other than more wars well media bias is nothing new i mean since the first
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newspaper was ever printed the editor had some control on where that was going to do
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the cbc of all outlets at all because it's a public broadcaster should be striving and
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everybody's always known it's had a left lean but i mean that lean from the 70s has turned into a
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socialist tilt on that thing for decades now well and you know it should be obligated to at least
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make an effort to show balance it hasn't for a long what's actually more insidious is the box
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they draw around acceptable conservatism because they have token conservatives but they tend to be
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and i don't uh i've got friends who appear on there so i don't mean to slay them but
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when they go on they're pretty well behaved well they're the only ones who pay people to go on
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their panel too yeah they pay you don't pay any guests ever yeah uh so you have a bigger incentive
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to keep the cbc happy when you show up exactly and they have a box around like what kind of
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i've never seen them actually have somebody maybe have had someone on but i've never actually seen
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that they discuss like alberta independent stuff all the time i've actually never seen them have
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an alberta independence supporter on like someone who actually knows who these people are what makes
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them tick what animates it they don't know that's outside the box so they'll get an alberta
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conservative on but they'll find someone i don't mean it's like anyone's gone on sorry guys but
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like you know it'll be very politically correct for a conservative you know this is the bounds
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of acceptable discussion for conservatives everything beyond that doesn't exist it doesn't
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appear on the cbc unless it's uh about how hateful it is to date uh people who look like you oh
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okay yeah no you know you got to go to england if you want to get uh get the latest on alberta
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alberta separation independence jeff rath just did an extensive interview with a spectator
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and uh there it is just came out today but uh what's the chances that he would get himself on
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cbc well no comment that's different no comment yeah okay but yeah no really you know they go
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they went to a guy in the states for his expert opinion about albert independence but they actually
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don't talk to alberta independence people uh they won't talk uh they won't have on people who are
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hardline opponents of mass migration they'll bring on a conservative who says well perhaps
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we need to tighten up the numbers a little bit and make sure that everything is legal and okay
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well that's the that's the hard take that's allowed that's the hardest boundary of discussion
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on these topics so uh the conserve they do have conservatives on the cbc but it's a it's a it's a
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cut there's a very narrow spectrum of conservatives that's allowed on the cbc sorry go ahead all right
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i'll just take it quickly then they think that they are actually correct if they are representing
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a good morally defensible fair examination of different ideas they can't conceive that somebody
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could think differently than they do and be a decent person and you can't have non-decent
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person on on the canada's semi-official news agency no you you've got the editor-in-chief
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Brody Fenlon or something like that, and the CBC CEO were both testifying.
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They're saying, you know, this is the most unbiased organization they've ever worked for.
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But the voice of the CBC is the voice of Andrew Coyne and Chantelle Hebert and, you know, and David Cochran and Rosemary Barton.
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I've never really believed there was necessarily a vast conspiracy within the CBC to be left,
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but it was just more of a natural, organic way it just works out.
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Like, most media is left, and of course it's left.
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But if they do have an outright list, then perhaps it is actually a bit more of an organized thing than...
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It should be, I don't even want to just defund it.
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Alternatively, you could turn it into like a right-wing media propaganda outlet.
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You know, make Fox News look like pussies.
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But I've generally given it the benefit of the doubt that, you know, it's not a organized conspiracy against the right.
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And that it is, you know, it is a planned thing to do this.
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uh but if this list exists that um well it would be very interesting to see who's on it too i mean
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are these then this list very people very far into the fringe i guess in thought in general
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or are they moderate minded ones there there's the thing you gotta wonder are they moderate
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minded ones who would have made a case they didn't like that's where the yeah i mean you
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don't necessarily want the the head of some white nationalist group on your organization fair enough
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Well, if he's in the news, if they're doing the news about them, they should.
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Well, yeah, you know what I'm saying, where perhaps they could feel that they're justified
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in making a list of such names, but if these are public names that are not really considered
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that far out, then that'll be interesting to read it, just seeing where they're-
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I know that's a subjective sort of thing, and the list shouldn't be-
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If you need a list that shows you're not sure about the people, they could make a mistake
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it might not be just also purely ideological also might be who are critics of the cbc you know i uh
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you know previous life i was on the cpc all the time i had a regular segment but i was talking
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about kind of normie conservative stuff taxes and spending and accountability stuff that's
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you know motherhood apple pie conservatism um but you know in general you know when i was
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at the community taxpayers federation at that time we didn't criticize we didn't call for
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defunding or privatization of the CBC because we were on the CBC all the time. We just didn't want
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to pick a fight with it. We were on all the time. The CTF has changed that. They openly call for it
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now, so good for them. But I was never openly calling for getting rid of the CBC. I was talking
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about normie conservative issues. Since then, you know, I talk about war, mass migration, national
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identity independence and regularly beat the drum for getting rid of the cbc i have been invited to
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the cbc for a very long time well even outside where you are though i mean but the the parallel
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is franco i don't watch so i don't know he appears on a lot with the taxpayers federation just for
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folks who don't know franco terzano i wonder if he appears on cbc i mean i've seen it on ctv at
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least not that often i don't see him i'm not sure he's the sort of person i'm talking about who
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perhaps would be on that subtle list i'm talking about he's a conservative it's it's he's just it's
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taxes and spending you can't call that stuff far right you know okay rachel gilmore is of the world
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bill but like you know regular people couldn't call that far right but you know okay he wants cbc
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gone does that disqualify him i don't know that's that's why i'm just we're all celebrating to see
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that list i want that list oh we should have that could be an interesting office pool who's on the
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list i still have them being paid out for the iranian excursion no you didn't you didn't meet
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it the war happened after the deadline it's like reading the fine there we have a date on there
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february first it says that's the fine print there is the fine print i can see way from over
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here way over i was i was right you guys were wrong and you just can't admit it you're right
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No, I thought it was actually going to be a war, but the bet was before February 1st, you lose.
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My sources in the White House told me it would be after.
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Sad day for Great Britain when they're going to replace Winston Churchill on the five-pound note.
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And they're taking it off and replacing him with a hedgehog.
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well they'll be doing land acknowledgements for your people one day yeah they will yes
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uh cory i just want you know address a grand chief ninchi and his uh collection of assorted
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uh indigenous leaders in alberta on the steps of the legislature the other day
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holding a stunt and that's the only word for it where they called for a non-confidence vote which
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doesn't exist uh against the legislature and upset that the legislature didn't recognize their false
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non-confidence vote and then actually because he got called on it went out and
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tweeted that it wasn't a stunt which only led to 1700 replies saying that's exactly
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the definition of us holding on to some confidence vote outside the legislature but it really is
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indicating speaking of a leader who can't seem to be getting his feet under him and moving carny
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it just seems all things line up for him nitchy is not grabbing the interest of albertans and
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showing i think with more desperation and stunts like this yeah uh nigel yeah well maybe we need
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some stunts on the other side i'll tell you this is uh i've been really very caught this morning
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by the exchange in one of the committees where they can't actually just say yes we should get
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some proof that there are bodies in graves and some of these right they have to talk around it
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and say well yes but we should we need to trust and so forth i think anybody if any fair-minded
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person if shown proof that these claims are true will change their minds well no no no we we don't
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want to we don't want to get because there will always be people who will be against you and
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meanwhile in bc you've got a guy who says no i don't i don't see any more than two genders here
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and they're slapping with a 750 000 dollar fine one of these two got together you are not allowed
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it seems to just state what you see or what you think we are moving into dark times and this is
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the beginning not the end if you want to know who your true enemy is look for the people who make
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make it illegal to criticize them. You bet. That's exactly what it is. Sorry to end on a
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sober note. Well, on a pleasant note, I'm going to give a tip of the hat to a relatively new
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independent media organization without diminishment. That's mostly some younger folks,
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I think clustered mostly on the West Coast. They're giving a really interesting and punchy
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but thoughtful take on the issues of the day. It's not doing news. They don't have a newsroom
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the way we do but it's commentary and analysis um from a younger a younger perspective on the
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right it's not uh you know the kind of conservative i grew up within where we're you know kind of
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worshiping at the altar of ronald greg and everything was supply side economics these
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guys are talking about the more existential issues we face today of do we exist as people
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what is canada who are canadians how does canada survive as a people as a country uh it's
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and they do it in a tasteful and very thoughtful way.
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I think they're adding a lot to the conversation,
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so I wanted to give a tip of that to folks that,
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without diminishment, they've got a good sub-stack going that I recommend.
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