Western Standard - The Pipeline： Conservatives WAY up in new poll

00:00:00.000 good evening i'm derek fildebrandt publisher of the western standard today is july 26 2023 and

00:00:18.880 you're watching the pipeline joining me as always is western standard opinion editor

00:00:24.480 nigel henneford how are you nigel full of opinions you know what they say about opinions

00:00:29.600 they're like uh two bits you get a cup of coffee like a-holes everyone's got one well that certainly

00:00:36.400 is accurate to call them in the uh the asshole editor yeah nobody's called me that yet well

00:00:43.280 maybe there's some letters to the editor that you've seen that i haven't one man who has been

00:00:47.840 called that is western standard senior alberta columnist cory morgan among other things but i

00:00:52.880 just look forward that's among the more polite things you get all right uh well today we're

00:00:57.920 going to be talking about a new poll released by abacus data showing the conservatives way up

00:01:03.840 leading nearly uh everywhere in canada outside of quebec tied in atlantic canada but leading

00:01:09.280 absolutely everywhere else putting the conservatives in majority government territory and poly of on his

00:01:15.680 way to the prime minister's office if we were to have an election yesterday too bad uh we're going to

00:01:21.680 talk about justin trudeau's new cabinet a very significant uh shuffle i wouldn't even call it a

00:01:27.920 shuffle this is an almost new cabinet uh bunch in bunch out a bunch of the other guys all moved

00:01:36.320 around pretty much a new cabinet we're going to talk about uh the ins and outs of it no pun intended

00:01:41.920 um the department of health in canada health canada admits now what most of us have known for

00:01:50.320 a very long time that uh the idea that covid 19 came from a leak from the wuhan covid lab

00:02:00.160 is no longer a conspiracy theory it is now in the realm of respectable opinion they haven't said it's

00:02:06.080 proven to be and fair enough but they've said it's uh it's no longer a conspiracy theory this is a

00:02:11.920 legitimate uh it's a legitimate theory i get it's it's things i guess cease to be a conspiracy theory

00:02:18.400 once the government says it's possible and uh we're going to talk about ottawa's decision now uh

00:02:25.520 environment minister stephen gilbo's decision to end or kill uh oil subsidies that he's having trouble

00:02:34.880 proving exists at all there are things involving the government finance with the oil industry but

00:02:41.120 most of them don't seem to fit any reasonable definition of a subsidy so we're going to talk about

00:02:46.560 that with uh western standard business reporter sean polzer before we get started though i want to

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00:03:50.560 rights all right um new poll abacus data uh the conservatives under peer probably have have taken a

00:03:59.600 huge 10 point lead at 38 percent over 28 for the liberals ndp back at 18 percent um we've got the ppc at four

00:04:12.320 the greens at five and i think the block at seven uh conservatives got a good lead in bc massive lead

00:04:22.320 in alberta massive lead in saskatchewan good lead in manitoba uh significant lead in ontario tied in

00:04:29.680 atlantic canada and a respectable but definitely not leading third place in quebec so if there's an election

00:04:37.440 today they could win the most seats in every province uh arguably except for quebec and maybe

00:04:43.360 a few spots in the america times depending on how the numbers break down because they put all four

00:04:46.480 provinces there together um leading in all age groups very rare for conservatives to lead among

00:04:52.080 younger voters normally conservative voters trend older uh and they tend towards men well he's got a huge

00:04:58.480 lead of 14 uh among men uh but even a lead of four percent uh among women over the liberals um so

00:05:06.960 this is a big poll polls of course are a snapshot in time they don't tell you what's going to happen

00:05:11.280 they're telling you what would probably happen during the time that the poll is taken uh we'll start with

00:05:16.160 you cory um polyev has recovered the conservative numbers a bit from uh where o'toole had them but

00:05:23.440 they've been pretty stagnant until fairly recently now we're seeing some big moves uh it's a bit

00:05:29.200 surprising to me because there's not a ton going on in the news other than justin frito's attempts to

00:05:34.320 save the news by killing it uh what would you suspect is driving this surge uh well i think there's two

00:05:40.880 things one though with that demographic shift we're seeing younger people looking at conservatives i

00:05:45.040 think is the affordability that's hitting them hard i mean justin trudeau can keep talking about

00:05:50.000 how he's making it better for middle-income families and up-and-comers but the truth is he

00:05:54.640 isn't housing is out of reach for a lot of people food is increasingly expensive all of the time

00:06:00.640 and whether or not the trudeau government could or would do anything about it is is irrelevant i think

00:06:05.600 they're taking out their ire on the government that's it's in power at this time especially when you

00:06:09.520 see other scandals such as six thousand dollar hotel rooms for the prime minister and and the governor

00:06:14.320 general living lavishly like these are the things that will you know resonate with a younger person

00:06:18.880 thinking this is a government that is not connected with what's really a serious problem for me

00:06:23.520 and uh they're starting to look towards the conservatives uh the other aspect i think is

00:06:28.400 finally some of the chinese interference scandal it's just been months and months of it pounding but

00:06:32.320 it's it's slowly but surely been eroding in that liberal support with the older categories

00:06:37.520 nigel um no surprise conservatives leading in alberta and saskatchewan or manitoba even bc even

00:06:45.040 though the lean bc isn't huge because there it's a competitive three three and a half party race

00:06:51.280 conservatives liberals ndp and to an extent the green at least in some regional areas uh but ontario

00:06:59.040 conservatives have won it before but it's generally not their strongest spot and atlantic canada always been

00:07:04.320 tough for conservatives in the modern iteration of the conservative party post 2003 uh tied um and

00:07:11.680 a respectable third place in quebec where they might pick up a handful of seats let's talk regionally

00:07:18.880 um what do you think would be what do you think would be the main impetus driving an increase in

00:07:23.840 conservative support beyond its traditional base in the west and rural ontario so here's one of the

00:07:29.520 things that happens before i address your question directly i just want to point out that those

00:07:34.240 ontario figures they over sampled in ontario because they weren't sure they say this in their

00:07:40.320 report i think ontario and atlantic canada they oversample both of them in fact yeah they're probably

00:07:46.080 i actually have more confidence in those ontario numbers than i typically have in any

00:07:51.360 poll of 2500 people sort of distributed across the country on a prorated basis they've gone in where

00:07:58.800 they're at least certain oversampled come out with a result that result probably is a pretty accurate

00:08:04.880 snapshot so if you think they're up in ontario and running even in the maritimes believe it they

00:08:13.120 probably are now you ask me why well it's probably got to do with the slow steady water on a stone

00:08:23.680 erosion of trust in this government over a period of years there was a time when it didn't matter

00:08:29.600 what the liberals did didn't matter what the prime minister did everybody just glossed over it but

00:08:35.280 there comes a point when something happens let's say the chinese electoral interference uh for ex

00:08:42.880 allegations for example and people remember that they didn't like something else well man what was

00:08:49.680 it let me was oh i didn't like the convoy i don't like how that went i didn't like how

00:08:55.680 all the covet restrictions you know and there is a range of opinions but some of them are going to go

00:09:00.720 back and people forget specifics but in the end they pick up a feeling about a government

00:09:07.200 and about we're about a person and after that there is actually no coming back then it doesn't matter what

00:09:15.120 they look you've got a cabinet shuffle here and you've got a bunch of people who nobody's heard

00:09:20.160 of replacing a bunch of people who nobody's heard of we all know that what happens in that particular

00:09:24.800 government is all the decisions are taken by about five people and then the decisions are

00:09:30.720 found out to the ministries and it's up to the people who've just been shuffled to uh to to action

00:09:36.320 them well got a new group of people that nobody's heard of actioning government actioning decisions

00:09:43.040 taken by the same old five people well you know i think people have just finally recognized that

00:09:49.120 whatever they say nothing really changes they've had enough something new change what change is

00:09:54.560 sake uh one of the big things stood out for me i mentioned but i want to dive into it now is

00:10:02.720 demographically not just geographically demographically um in aggregate you know voting for right

00:10:11.280 leaning parties tends to be among older people middle age and older you uh have maybe more

00:10:16.640 traditional values for older voters and among more middle-aged voters voters well you've got

00:10:21.600 to pay taxes all of a sudden government has a cost attached to it oh it's not all free stuff

00:10:26.560 i'm paying for this i i care about how much i'm paying in taxes and i care about how those taxes are

00:10:31.120 paid it's one reason voters tend to people move to the right as they get older younger voters well

00:10:36.880 government's only ever provided free stuff and hasn't taken a substantial portion of your money

00:10:41.360 at that point it's another reason people tack a bit left when when they're younger the conservatives

00:10:47.040 are leading among every single age group now including younger voters when trudeau for when

00:10:52.240 his majority in 2015 he didn't just win younger voters he annihilated the demographic he brought them

00:10:57.840 out in record numbers and they voted overwhelmingly liberal and for just trudeau they're now voting

00:11:04.320 conservative not a massive numbers but i mean even breaking even with younger voters would be

00:11:09.520 devastating for the liberals um among uh the two sexes if i could say that um you know traditionally

00:11:19.120 conservatives there will be letters yeah there will be letters complaints uh send it to uh our

00:11:25.600 complaints file uh fu at westerncenter.news um you know generally conservatives are stronger among men

00:11:33.360 than women um and vice versa with the liberals and more leftist leaning parties um the conservatives

00:11:40.160 are still stronger with men than they are with women 14 versus four percent but that for that four is

00:11:45.200 still a four percent lead over the liberals justin trudeau is not winning women uh he's got no shot um

00:11:56.080 nigel uh what what do you think would be moving those numbers on the on the demographic side

00:12:01.200 again it's it's a general boredom and dismay at the at the liberals i that's a really interesting

00:12:10.080 point you brought forward there about the women i mean it wasn't a month ago that we had a big story

00:12:14.560 about how boliver is not uh connecting with women all women don't like him so forth and so on and we did

00:12:21.040 some stuff on that um well here here we are i i guess enough women do like him to give him a majority

00:12:29.600 among women isn't that no he's not a majority among women he's leading among women no one has a majority

00:12:35.120 even among men uh well but it's it's a league because it's a leader among women sure yeah plurality

00:12:41.040 or something whatever you want to call it um you know don't forget who pays the bills in a household

00:12:49.520 nine times out of ten it's the woman the wife the partner who however whatever she's called women

00:12:56.160 are very very uh knowledgeable about prices and things that mr trudeau probably knows only by second

00:13:02.880 hand information what what's a what's a pound of butter what's a pint of milk how much you know

00:13:08.560 and uh there's they are seeing the truth of what oliver has been pushing out for several months now

00:13:17.360 that this government has no control over prices they they have caused the value of money to shrink

00:13:26.000 and while that's an abstract concept in itself when you go to the supermarket and when you look at what

00:13:32.320 stuff costs in the aisles and you come out with a bag of groceries that should have cost 35 dollars and

00:13:39.280 it's it's over a hundred you think something's wrong here women see that up close personal every

00:13:48.000 time they go into the store that's what's working for oliver and not working for mr trudeau okay we'll

00:13:54.080 shift gears now to to the new cabinet uh i was worried you were going to jump you know anticipate where

00:14:01.680 we were going there you said talk cabinet for a bit but you didn't spoil it um i never spoil things

00:14:06.960 i wouldn't even call this a cabinet shuffle technically i guess we technically call it a

00:14:10.400 shuffle but it's uh more of a dance than a shuffle there is big changes in the cabinet seven minister

00:14:17.120 new ministers in seven old ministers out um some changes then among those who didn't get moved out

00:14:26.320 only 10 of the remaining ministers actually stayed where they were uh a majority of the cabinet is

00:14:31.760 now different today than it was yesterday um bill blair has been moved to defense that's a that's a major

00:14:39.520 move uh woman who was the defense minister uh anita anand anand on the treasury yeah she's yeah she's been

00:14:48.160 moved to treasury board president um they're both pretty senior but it's a bit of a demotion

00:14:54.960 um i mean she was a bit weird kind of wokeifying the military one institution that if there's one

00:15:02.000 institution that should not be painted woke it's probably your military um but more her ideology

00:15:11.040 aside she's been among let's say the least incompetent of the trudeau ministers but she's been moved so

00:15:18.240 curious um yeah so bill blair in the defense sean frazier just something called housing and

00:15:23.840 infrastructure i guess we have something called housing so i mean that should maybe you know

00:15:28.080 that's a political message that it's on the government's radar um in alberta here one of the

00:15:34.160 few liberal mps randy wasano was moved to employment workforce uh employment workforce something um pablo

00:15:44.880 rodriguez out of heritage i i would hope that's a good thing and this is the guy responsible for bill

00:15:53.200 c18 designed to bail out the legacy media and has resulted in an armageddon among the media businesses

00:16:00.080 now including and especially the independents he's been replaced by uh pascal pascal saint ange or

00:16:08.720 something uh i'm not sure how to say that but uh as usual i've always said this the heritage ministry

00:16:15.360 particularly liberal governments and sometimes in conservative governments is always reserved for a

00:16:19.040 quebecer um so some some pretty big moves here uh corey what do you what are the what are the big

00:16:25.840 highlights of uh the new cabinet for you well i think part of the highlight is telling me that the

00:16:31.520 liberals internals are saying the same thing as the polls we saw like this is midway through a term

00:16:36.640 it's summer i would have expected a shuffle now now is the ideal time to do it but the extent and

00:16:41.440 size of that shuffle uh some senior ministers i mean weren't laterally moved like so many others some are

00:16:47.200 totally out uh marco mendicino we expected that i mean they were waiting for the next opportunity to

00:16:51.840 get rid of that that was a nice one uh lametti i'm not sure it'll change much lametti kind of surprised

00:16:56.160 me i could see them moving him but maybe it would have been lateral but no he's out uh carolyn bennett

00:17:01.360 uh again she's getting a little past her expiry date i guess you could say but all the same she's a

00:17:06.560 senior liberal member and she's out she's not in cabinet whatsoever anymore likewise with

00:17:12.080 omar al gabra so you know those are some senior positions i mean the main ones are still sticking

00:17:17.680 with it you've still got uh freeland and and a few of the five kind of as nigel was talking about

00:17:22.560 around the prime minister but he did some symbolic saying we're flushing some of the old guard out and

00:17:28.320 i think he's going to try and say we're different now they're acknowledging that they weren't doing

00:17:32.880 well it's the new trying to refresh themselves but yeah all they're doing is turning a dirty shirt

00:17:37.440 inside out but that's what they're trying to do with this i think well i mean this was the old guard

00:17:42.560 that was so fresh and bright because it's 2015 you know and i guess things didn't work out too well

00:17:49.360 for a lot of them uh you know you can only build a cabinet with the wood you've got so

00:17:54.400 he doesn't really have the choices that everybody would think he does um i think i think just as

00:18:01.600 significant as the ones that have been moved out are the ones that stayed right where they were and they

00:18:06.960 include some of the people who i my my view are probably responsible for some of the most

00:18:13.760 distress that canadians have suffered in the last couple of years i mean there you've got

00:18:18.160 um steven guble he is he is in place by the way his and wilkinson's remaining in their posts

00:18:26.960 at environment and energy natural resources i that i think is a significant thing for alberta i don't

00:18:32.960 know whether you're coming back to that but um but you know mr carbon tax okay carbon tax is what is

00:18:40.720 driving up the price of everything and that's one of the things that's one of the things that in the

00:18:45.600 and the inflation which christia freeland as minister of finance is still overseeing so i mean

00:18:53.920 these are the people who've made the cost of living that much more expensive for canadians they're still

00:19:00.480 there is and they're part of the very small click that i'm referring to when i talk about five you

00:19:06.080 know maybe it's four maybe it's six but there's a small click that makes these decisions nothing really

00:19:11.920 changes um i'm always the prime minister is the government the premiers and the provinces are the

00:19:22.320 government ministers for the most part are there to execute orders not not give orders but there's

00:19:30.000 always exceptions the fact that stephen gilbo is still minister of the environment and climate change

00:19:37.840 uh i think that says something trudeau cleaned house in a sense here but the guys he leaves here

00:19:45.520 it says i've got confidence in you i like what you're doing keep doing it that's kind of a doubling down

00:19:51.440 wilkinson is not for resources gets energy added to the title of his portfolio i'm not sure how much

00:19:56.880 that'll actually change or not but significantly haven't had a federal energy minister in quite some

00:20:01.760 time um maybe talk about those two uh wilkinson and gilbo what does this mean for the energy industry

00:20:08.720 and for alberta and saskatchewan in particular it's not good it's not good at all and i mean you know

00:20:13.280 we've said it a lot and it's worth saying gilbo is an extremist he he was a greenpeace activist he was

00:20:18.880 arrested it does show that whatever flexibility trudeau is willing to go into to try and save

00:20:25.440 his skin in the next election whenever that may be he's still fixated on being the climate change

00:20:30.960 crusader and that being his legacy so he's got the fiercest of climate attack dogs in there working

00:20:37.120 on his behalf and environment and as you said wilkinson is just mandated he'll do as he's told he's

00:20:42.480 not there to represent energy he's there to control and when the case of alberta and saskatchewan

00:20:49.040 stifle it so those are very significant in that they're staying where they are that part of the

00:20:53.680 government's mandate is not going to be changing a bit uh another switcheroo of note is uh marco mendicino

00:21:01.760 um i mean trudeau politically had to drop this guy from cabinet i think it was the right decision to

00:21:08.160 drop this guy from cabinet he is a proven liar multiple times here's the trick in politics you can

00:21:15.920 lie you just can't get obviously caught you have to have some kind of plausible deniability he has

00:21:22.160 been caught time and time again and wildly incompetent even from the perspective of a left

00:21:28.240 progressive just screwing up files you know you had uh the paul bernardo uh debacle you've had him

00:21:36.720 screw up on the gun file pissing off uh gun owners who are not voting liberal anyway but doing it in

00:21:43.520 such a clumsy way politically that it's even angered people who want to take away uh the rights of gun

00:21:48.320 owners um so marco mendicino not just shuffled but out of cabinet outright replaced by dominic leblanc and

00:21:57.760 that's an interesting because dominic leblanc if there's one person okay there might be two cabinet

00:22:03.360 ministers with real power outside of the prime minister one is uh christia freeland deputy premier

00:22:10.560 uh prime minister and minister of finance and dominic leblanc who was uh i think might still be

00:22:17.120 the house leader uh it's been switched oh he's not healthy anymore okay well he was house leader

00:22:23.120 um probably minister without portfolio or something but in cabinet but not really responsible for ministry

00:22:28.320 he's now minister of public safety uh democratic reform and some other minor file that won't get

00:22:36.880 paid attention to but public safety that's a major one and that's responsible for taking our guns um

00:22:44.720 he's still a liberal but he is a more competent minister he is likely to be able to at least tie his

00:22:51.680 shoelaces up and put his pants on before he goes to the office in the morning which i guess my question

00:22:58.240 is is this a bad thing were we better with an incompetent minister trying to take our guns away

00:23:04.480 or are we better with a more competent minister who might under might come to understand things better

00:23:10.000 or is he just more dangerous because he's not a fool depends how you define competence really doesn't

00:23:15.520 it if you uh if you take stake out the position that all guns are bad then you can have somebody

00:23:23.760 like uh well it's not to beat the policy of it you know i don't want to beat the policy of it i think

00:23:27.760 we're in agreement on on the on the actual policy of it but is it more dangerous my point is that

00:23:33.120 somebody like leblanc is likely to make the call that all guns are not bad that there are some that

00:23:40.640 that can be as they would according to their frame of reference can be safely left in the hands of the

00:23:47.040 the hunters and the sportsmen the indigenous people the folks who like to go to gun clubs and so forth

00:23:53.360 and um i would expect a perhaps a redefinition of what is a what is a dangerous weapon in the hands of

00:24:01.360 the public for somebody who was sensible but they well they've never been able to define it but look

00:24:06.080 there are smart people with dumb ideologies all the time look how many university professors

00:24:11.360 are marxists they're smart in a sense they might be competent in some sense of their job but they

00:24:18.240 still have a crazy ideology and set of political views and some people might say the same about us

00:24:23.280 um so let's just assume for the sake of it that dominic leblanc has the same idea about guns he shares

00:24:32.800 liberal ideology progressive left progressive ideology on guns let's just assume and i think

00:24:38.720 that's probably a fairly safe idea going in uh marco mendicino wasn't a stephen gilbo radical he was

00:24:45.440 just he has urban progressive left views and ideology on guns so i think it's probably a relatively good

00:24:53.280 bet also remember it's the prime minister setting the ideology in the tone here not the minister

00:24:57.680 cory do you think he's more dangerous or less dangerous because he's probably not an idiot

00:25:04.480 well yeah if assuming he's going to follow the same ideology he's most definitely more dangerous

00:25:08.640 he won't step on his own tongue he won't discredit himself and that will make it easier to sell

00:25:14.000 those kinds of policies to the public and and get them through the house of commons without too much

00:25:18.960 of a mess so uh as a firearms owner if he's going to follow that same ideology i would be much more

00:25:24.400 nervous with leblanc on the file than with mendicino making an abject mess of it and uh oh you had some

00:25:33.920 i did i just take the view that um he will probably leave some on the table in order to get others that

00:25:40.240 he that they really think are in their frame of reference dangerous but be more pragmatic perhaps yeah

00:25:47.360 yeah i could do and uh i won't get into it but just another one of the big dismissals from cabinet

00:25:53.520 is omar al gabra um notable he is dropped from cabinet because he couldn't make the trains run on

00:26:01.120 time so well there you go if you have a fascist government and you can't make the trains run on

00:26:07.920 time you've got to get rid of somebody haven't you if you're going to be an authoritarian at least make

00:26:12.560 the trains run on time yeah if you can't if you can't do that you may as well just be free anyway

00:26:18.880 okay for those of you who know your mussolini that was the reference uh okay uh well we'll kind of

00:26:28.720 stick around ottawa on this one here um so everybody's been paying attention for the last

00:26:36.000 i don't know three and a half years whatever it was since covid became a thing um it became fairly

00:26:43.520 obvious fairly early that there was at least a very strong chance that covid came from the

00:26:51.440 experimental covid lab in wuhan province in china uh now there have been conspiracy theories around

00:26:58.800 it people saying matter of factly it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt i'm skeptical of that i don't

00:27:04.560 think we really know because the chinese government's been so opaque around this stuff intentionally opaque

00:27:08.560 uh or that it was intentionally released that is also extremely unlikely i'm not sure what interest

00:27:15.760 the chinese would have in releasing that in their own backyard and devastating themselves worse than

00:27:19.920 anyone else got hurt creating all sorts of unrest the chinese communist party now has to more or less

00:27:25.920 tolerate protests because locked anti-lockdown protests aren't just for alberta even china got them too

00:27:32.160 and they uh did not send in the tanks tiananmen square style to kill them for doing it which was a

00:27:37.680 bit of a surprise um but it was the idea that covid came from a wuhan lab ah we can say this on youtube

00:27:46.160 now because the government agrees youtube those of you watching on youtube this would be censored what

00:27:50.560 we're saying right now one week ago if we said this here it would be censored by uh the bureaucrats

00:27:57.040 working for the government at youtube uh today we can say it because the federal department of health

00:28:06.080 now admits that it is uh not a conspiracy theory that it is uh the precise origin while not yet known

00:28:13.520 is uh it now recognizes the significant possibility that it came from a quote laboratory incident which is

00:28:21.440 government speak for the wuhan covid lab um health minister at the time during covid when this was a

00:28:28.560 thing a reporter asked her if we can trust the information coming from china and she says uh kind

00:28:34.880 of referring to the theory that it came from the lab she says you're promoting conspiracy theories and

00:28:39.680 we need to work with china and blah blah blah blah blah very chinese they didn't want to offend the chinese

00:28:44.880 i wonder why the liberals were so hesitant to offend the chinese communist party no idea why three and a

00:28:51.280 a half years ago they could have been uh so hesitant to do so but she called everyone discussing the

00:28:56.800 possibility that the chinese might not be the chinese communist party might not be totally completely

00:29:02.640 untoward um a conspiracy theory well the department of health now says that is one of the leading

00:29:12.480 potential causes of the incident uh so sorry with you nigel uh conspiracy theory yesterday

00:29:19.680 a government policy today um the government hasn't made any fanfare around this but this was

00:29:27.280 in an kind of an internal document obtained by block locks reporter uh thoughts well you know

00:29:35.520 the sad thing is that um people have suffered hugely because of a government that would not accept

00:29:44.880 the possibilities we're told to get vaccinated because the vaccines were safe and effective turned

00:29:53.600 out that some were safer than others and not none of them were totally effective we were told that well

00:30:00.080 we could possibly be a lab leak in muhan well you know they did what mr mendicino did didn't they and

00:30:07.920 uh because this stuff is admitted now but it cannot have been unknown three years ago and in fact i often

00:30:18.640 go back to the the briefing that dr theresa tam canada's chief public health officer gave to the house of

00:30:27.440 commons health committee two weeks before the pandemic was declared in canada public state of public health

00:30:36.080 emergency declared so much of that information that she gave those people at that time including the

00:30:43.680 effectiveness or lack of effectiveness of masks the priority of protecting vulnerable populations

00:30:50.240 principally older people that the thing was known to have a greater impact on older people and on

00:30:56.160 younger people all of this was known and yet they went and did what they did anyway now a conspiracy

00:31:03.120 theory might be why they did that but they were wrong and they wouldn't admit it and those people

00:31:09.440 who are now calling for a public inquiry into the whole covert incident are on the right track it's

00:31:15.760 great that we have the uh you know the private enterprise one but nobody's paying any attention this time

00:31:21.840 it's time for a proper royal commission on how the government handled that whole issue

00:31:28.480 uh korea paul wells uh had a interesting column on his substack yesterday uh about the need for a

00:31:36.000 public inquiry here the uh i think it was uh the british medical journal uh as as their main editorial

00:31:44.400 demanding the need for it most countries have had some kind of public inquiry around their response

00:31:49.920 to covet now i imagine these things would be fairly sanitized and would probably not deal very much with any

00:31:58.000 violations of people's liberties and freedoms uh but probably deal more on just a technical more

00:32:04.000 bureaucratic level but so far uh the liberals have refused to have a public inquiry they generally just

00:32:09.760 don't like public inquiries uh regardless of the evidence but um you know they said they've committed

00:32:16.160 we're going to review it but they've never said and they just keep on stating every six months or so

00:32:21.680 they get asked by reporters are we gonna have an acquired well we're gonna review it have you even begun

00:32:25.360 to review it no they haven't done anything what hesitancy do you think the liberals would have in

00:32:30.640 a public inquiry because they would get to frame the terms of reference and would probably pretty

00:32:34.960 strictly i would imagine if the liberals did this probably pretty strictly exclude any issues around

00:32:41.760 the authoritarian tendencies of the government politically around freedoms probably just deal with

00:32:47.680 this from a purely bureaucratic public health perspective why do you think they're so hesitant

00:32:52.400 to do this i think some of these threads tie together and uh you know into another inquiry

00:32:57.040 that they really want to avoid i mean there were a lot of conspiracy theories all over the place

00:33:02.480 there really were some of where this virus came from when it was emerging when it was happening

00:33:07.440 ironically the one that was the theory that was most plausible evidence-based was the one they wanted

00:33:12.880 to shut down and call a conspiracy theory i mean my theory at the time was that it was actually from an

00:33:16.720 undercooked bat sandwich in the lunch room of the wuhan lab i was close but not quite there but

00:33:24.240 you're mixing your theory well i was i was getting in in the right direction but i mean the reticence in

00:33:31.440 entertaining that particular one as you kind of mentioned before well that starts getting a little close to

00:33:37.200 insulting the chinese communist party or its competency and they shy away from that we know darn well that

00:33:44.400 there's some ties and some influence but the degree of which and where and how something might

00:33:50.080 come out in an inquiry as he said they typically tend to manage to mask everything coming out anyways

00:33:54.000 but you might get somebody who finally says you know what it's time to spill some beans you know this

00:33:58.000 is the correspondence i got saying why we don't entertain this potential scenario and this was why and

00:34:05.360 they really there's some why going on out there that they do not want us to see and they're fighting

00:34:09.520 every kind of inquiry with all their might and i suspect there's a thread here that leads over to

00:34:14.080 the chinese thread that is just turning into that big mess they want to keep a lid on all right uh

00:34:20.560 well we're going to bring in western standard business reporter sean polzer right now uh sean

00:34:26.800 has been covering in a fair bit of detail almost daily uh the move from still federal environment minister

00:34:36.080 stephen gilbo uh to end what he calls uh oil subsidies uh you know sean uh this is a confusing one uh

00:34:48.160 subsidies are i mean they could take different forms uh but generally it involves the government giving

00:34:54.160 businesses money uh that they in one form another can keep uh the federal government has financial

00:35:04.560 relationships obviously with oil companies they pay taxes and there are different things but uh

00:35:09.680 stephen gilbo has had some he's been very adamant he's gonna kill subsidies to oil and gas but he's

00:35:15.200 had a hard time defining what these are how's it to say the least um normally you you hand subsidies

00:35:24.560 out to money losing industries not the ones that generate about 10 of your gross domestic product

00:35:30.480 um he was in calgary on wednesday to talk to some oil leaders and some business leaders and you know

00:35:38.160 kind of walked away and said one thing and then on monday you know it initially it seemed like quite a

00:35:44.000 shock when you come out uh with uh eliminating oil and gas subsidies and uh you know kind of made my

00:35:51.120 head spin but you know the fact is is that there really are none and it kind of depends on what your

00:35:56.880 definition of a subsidy is well i suppose uh if your definition of a subsidy i think the definition

00:36:06.080 of a subsidy is giving money to a business if you don't like it so if you're giving money to the

00:36:12.000 toronto star to the calgary herald to the national post it's not a subsidy it's uh

00:36:18.000 uh i don't know um a bailout um democracy bonus support it's support it's investment it's investment

00:36:25.760 and support if you like it it's a subsidy if you don't uh but there is no such money in that way

00:36:34.320 going to the oil and gas industry there are things like you know um capital cost allowance that allows

00:36:40.960 uh you know energy firms to defer taxes for capital reasons so that they can actually do

00:36:46.800 capital intensive investments and be allowed to pay the taxes on that later um is that something

00:36:52.880 they're trying to define as a subsidy well no so um the the the thing that it pivots on is something

00:37:01.200 called an unabated subsidy so the idea is um a project that doesn't try to abate carbon emissions so

00:37:10.080 uh in the last budget here we have um 40 to 50 uh capital cost allowances and rebates for carbon

00:37:17.200 capture well those aren't being touched so because they abate emissions so he was pressed to put a

00:37:25.360 dollar figure on exactly what these subsidies were and exactly what they are and he was completely

00:37:30.560 unable to do it because there are no direct subsidies for upstream oil and gas direct production

00:37:38.240 um the canadian association of petroleum producers put out the statement said that they were generally

00:37:42.560 aligned on the policy and i kind of thought you know like that seems odd yeah they're aligned with

00:37:48.640 it because there are none you know you know and they've said that there are no direct subsidies for

00:37:52.720 oil and gas production in canada period right but jibo he has to play to his audience of his um

00:37:59.120 supporters these environmental supporters you know the birkenstock crowd in ontario and quebec and he's

00:38:04.240 taking it with him to the g20 because he wants to hold up canada as some kind of a bright light

00:38:09.360 uh you know we're gonna be the first country in the world to eliminate unabated oil and gas subsidies

00:38:14.640 right well we have none so we particularly you know yeah it's funny you have our abated subsidies

00:38:22.080 there's tons of government subsidies both from alberta saskatchewan and ottawa for oil and gas companies

00:38:28.960 that are doing things to reduce their emissions so okay uh maybe for carbon capture and storage for

00:38:36.000 converting to hydro sorry into hydrogen things like that there's a lot of subsidies there but

00:38:41.440 there doesn't really seem to be that much in the way of subsidies that are so-called unabated just

00:38:48.960 supporting oil and gas in fact the only time the federal government really significantly subsidized

00:38:56.000 uh the oil and gas industry was when the last trudeau was prime minister and they tried to

00:39:01.440 nationalize the industry and they ended up subsidizing it because it kept on dying when exposed

00:39:07.680 to what they were doing um cory um what's the win here because there's there doesn't actually seem to

00:39:15.920 be anything he's going to do you can say they're cancelled but there doesn't appear to be really

00:39:21.040 anything he could do and it's really murky because it's like well does this mean they're not they don't

00:39:26.320 qualify for any subsidies that apply to all industries like say the canada summer jobs program

00:39:31.360 that you get no matter if you're making widgets or anything like what what's he gonna do here to

00:39:36.000 actually say he got he's not subsidizing them anymore i don't know well i guess you'll just have

00:39:40.080 to say it stopped which is great the win is is with the energy sector he's done what we've been unable

00:39:45.360 to counter for the last 15 years when you're arguing with people keep saying we're holding up your

00:39:49.440 industry we're shoring it up we're giving subsidies into it and they could never answer where they

00:39:53.520 were well now minister gilbo says they're gone so it's done don't worry about it it's over the

00:39:58.320 subsidies are finished we all win we're happily going home and of course nothing technically has

00:40:02.800 changed yeah i don't i think it's worth mentioning that uh mr gilbo was actually not at the swearing in

00:40:09.440 this morning he had gone to another of these hot air fests that they love to go to so as he goes he is

00:40:17.280 able to say in his speech we have stopped subsidies to the oil industry well nobody there is going to

00:40:24.240 ask him what subsidies how many how much what does it really mean he gets a nice clean sound bite

00:40:30.000 and farms that out to the people that he feels he needs to to influence and stay sweet with and he's

00:40:37.360 happy and i guess as the there were no subsidies in the first place so none got stopped so is the oil

00:40:44.080 industry so sean you know you can't i i don't you don't know inside this guy's head for sure but

00:40:51.360 is there any gonna be is there gonna be any change in policy that you would predict would you predict

00:40:56.400 there'll be any actual change in federal policy over the so-called oil subsidies or is it going to be

00:41:04.560 literally nothing changes and he pronounces now there are no more subsidies well he's talking about

00:41:11.920 public financing for things like uh the trans mountain pipeline that they actually own um so

00:41:20.080 putting up loan guarantees to get the thing finished because it's about 75 percent in the ground and

00:41:25.680 they're having you know hard time pushing it over to the finish line so um you know uh if they really

00:41:32.960 wanted to pull uh loan guarantees and public financing for oil and gas projects i suppose that would be the

00:41:38.960 place to start except they own the damn thing so yeah um they would just be shooting themselves in

00:41:46.720 the foot um i don't think that this is really going to amount to much i think um if they really wanted

00:41:53.200 to push it they you know they might try to get the canada pension plan to divest its oil and gas holdings

00:41:59.440 um i don't know if you could call that a subsidy or some kind of form of public financing but uh it would

00:42:05.600 definitely have an impact on everybody's rsp in this country because everybody who has cp in this

00:42:11.600 country owns oil and that's just the fact well this might be the least terrible thing

00:42:20.400 steven gilbo's managed to do or arguably as corey argues may be good maybe maybe the greenies will

00:42:26.400 finally say hey there are no more subsidies we killed it well they were always sure pointing that

00:42:30.800 gun about these subsidies at us and now he's shown that it was a blank so they're gonna have to find

00:42:35.200 something new to attack which i'm sure they will but i just wish the liberals had an equal zeal for

00:42:40.160 getting rid of subsidies for other industries like i don't know the legacy media wouldn't that be

00:42:46.560 wonderful hey okay uh sean uh nigel corey thank you very much for uh being here today i thank all of

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