Western Standard - The Pipeline： Court victories for COVID refuseniks

00:00:00.000 Today, I'm Derek Vildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:16.600 Today is August 30th, 2023.

00:00:19.700 Ugh, summer is pretty much over.

00:00:23.040 Slipping away.

00:00:23.260 You can feel the autumn coming in the air slowly.

00:00:28.780 Yellow leaves already. BS. Joined as usual today by Western Standard Opinion Editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:38.760 Good to be here.

00:00:39.600 And Western Standard Senior Alberta Columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:00:43.480 Good day.

00:00:44.420 We're going to be talking about Federal Environment Minister Stephen Gilbeau's comments while advising the Chinese Communist Party on environmental policy today.

00:00:54.720 about Suncor and actions in Alberta. He took some big shots at Suncor. So we're going to talk about

00:01:03.260 kind of Jill Bow's love-in with the Chinese Communist Party and what they're doing right now

00:01:07.900 on environment policy vis-a-vis what he's saying about Alberta. Bad Alberta. A federal NDP MP,

00:01:16.260 long-time MP, Charlie Angus, is blaming the Western standard for the death of an unvaccinated

00:01:23.980 woman who was denied uh an organ transplant because of policies that he supported

00:01:32.460 so she's denied a organ transplant because she's unvaccinated policy he supports and she dies 0.71

00:01:39.100 and that is our fault so we're going to talk about that nice uh logic pretzel uh

00:01:47.260 On the other side of that, some big court victories, a very recent string of court victories for refuseniks of mandates and things like that. Pastors who refused to close down their churches during COVID, people who were not masked, people who were not vaccinated.

00:02:08.220 It's been a long time coming, and it's been very much just this delayed, but still some big wins there we're going to talk about.

00:02:16.920 And the English River First Nation in Saskatchewan is claiming they have located 93 suspected unmarked graves in the ongoing genocide in Canada.

00:02:31.720 The, I suppose, the latest evidence that the Fourth Reich continues its march of genocide across Canada, still not a single body has been found in a suspected unmarked grave. 0.76

00:02:50.080 But we're going to we're going to go through what their claims are and talk about it.

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00:03:43.880 Okay, Federal Environment Minister Stephen Gilboe, gone to China, where he is meeting with an organ of the Communist Party, which I guess has some environmental policy role, and advising them.

00:04:03.500 He, actually, in fact, he was warned by the Chinese Communist Party's mouthpiece, the Global Times, they warned him against being condescending, quote unquote, I'm assuming that translates to Chinese.

00:04:22.140 I hope they got that right. Condescending. They told him not to be condescending discussions to accelerate China's own carbon neutrality plans, which are set for 2060, a bit later than Stephen Gilboa's of 2030 or 2035, whatever that is, which is far below the Paris Accord and what Gilboa was imposing on Alberta.

00:04:48.400 So we haven't heard him say anything about China's 2060 carbon neutrality plan, but he certainly has words for Alberta saying, no, we're not doing 2035.

00:05:02.280 But then he went after Suncor.

00:05:04.040 So Suncor, obviously big oil sands giant, they're selling their wind farms and solar stuff to concentrate on what makes the money.

00:05:16.180 You know, things that aren't just subsidy machines, namely oil sands.

00:05:22.540 And so this is what Stephen Gilboa had to say about Suncor.

00:05:25.600 To see the leader of a great Canadian company say that he basically disengaged from climate change and sustainability, that he's going to focus on short-term profits, it's all the wrong answers.

00:05:36.800 If I was convinced before that what we needed to do was regulate, I'm even more convinced now.

00:05:42.600 So he has convinced himself even more that he is right. That is a sign of a good liberal.

00:05:50.600 So he is confounded that a for-profit company is prioritizing making a profit, something that Mr. Guilbeau and the overwhelming majority of liberal cabinet ministers have never actually had to do at any point in their lives.

00:06:07.280 He's confounded that they would actually try to make a profit and focus on the profitable parts of their business.

00:06:15.300 But yeah, he did that where he's out in China with the China Council for International Cooperation on Environment and Development, where he is the co-chair.

00:06:25.080 And just for clarity, that is an actual organ of the Chinese government and Communist Party.

00:06:30.740 This is not an international organization where China is just there.

00:06:34.520 This is a Chinese communist.

00:06:37.280 Organization. I don't think anything of any of this is really surprising. The liberals have a really creepy soft spot for the Chinese Communist Party. So soft that the Chinese Communist Party is seeing it as advantageous to aid them in interfering in elections. 0.60

00:06:53.580 But, I don't know, is there anything unusual about Gilbo doing this overseas while in China, meeting with the Chinese Communist Party, the biggest polluter on the planet, whose carbon neutrality goals are 2060, and he has apparently not said anything about.

00:07:13.920 Is the circumstance of this a little out for Gilbo?

00:07:17.560 Of course it is. I mean, you pretty much said it all, Derek. It's an outrageous situation. It's outrageous that the man occupies a post in another government. It's one thing to be a member of an international organization. It's another to actually be part of another government. It happens to be China. It wouldn't be any better if it was Monaco.

00:07:41.580 So, you know, you just don't, it means split.

00:07:45.740 Loyalty is always the perception of shredded interests.

00:07:51.180 So that's the first thing.

00:07:52.720 But, you know, Mr. Giobo, frankly, is almost becoming a caricature of himself.

00:07:59.920 He is, everything that he does is just slightly crazy.

00:08:04.100 And the idea of going to China.

00:08:06.280 Slightly.

00:08:06.840 You're being very polite today.

00:08:07.900 Well, look, you know, we're going to get to Charlie Angus later.

00:08:11.580 The man is obviously single-minded, obsessive about his chosen passion, which is climate change, and nothing else matters to him.

00:08:26.920 A senior politician, an environment minister is senior, a senior politician needs to be able to operate across the spectrum.

00:08:35.880 he can think of nothing else. And go over there and chastise a Canadian company on from foreign

00:08:42.440 soil is the height of disloyalty. You don't do that sort of thing. You just keep that within

00:08:48.360 the family. There it is. He's nuts. Corey, I mean, I mean, him, Gilbo not saying anything,

00:08:56.920 at least that we know of so far about China's genuinely appalling environmental record.

00:09:03.400 um you know even if you are on the the climate train uh 2060 is a less ambitious goal than

00:09:11.460 even alberta we're saying 2050 china's saying 2060 whatever potato potato but you know less

00:09:18.980 ambitious than even alberta's goal um do you think are canadians going to see this um

00:09:28.640 in anything other than just Gilbo cares about environment is that going to be kind of the main headline coming out of this or is the fact that he's attacking a Canadian company for having the audacity to focus on profit, which they're have a fiduciary duty to do.

00:09:45.640 Do you think this is going to be anything beyond just the regular headlines of Gilbo, Headset Company?

00:09:54.440 Does it add to it substantively from average Canadians to think that he's doing this while operating as an arm of the Chinese Communist Party as a part of the China Council for International Cooperation on Environment and Development?

00:10:07.720 I think just the fact that he was sitting on that panel alone, I mean, that already made headlines when it was found that he was going to it.

00:10:13.800 And that kind of hit across the country.

00:10:15.640 As far as his fight with Suncor, I think that's just going to be more regional, and he knows it.

00:10:19.800 It's going to infuriate us in the West. They don't care. If anything, it's advantageous to them.

00:10:25.080 And it shows a difference in attitude. I mean, that's why he's so mortified with Suncor.

00:10:29.800 Companies like Suncor were put in the corner. What they're saying is we've gotten no benefit,

00:10:34.760 no thank yous, nothing for this virtue signaling we've done for years. We've tried to play by your

00:10:39.000 rules. We try carbon capture. We buy into the renewables, and still you keep moving the goal

00:10:44.520 posts and saying you're going to shut us down well to heck with you we're going to focus on 0.71

00:10:48.680 you know with selling oil that's what we do and then we're not going to apologize for it anymore

00:10:53.520 and uh I think it's just the beginnings of a bigger showdown though it is notable because

00:10:58.420 Suncor I've kind of chuckled at Suncor for a while is like they've trying to be such a boy scout

00:11:05.200 they've been sucking up to Ottawa and look what it got them yeah they've you know they uh could

00:11:11.600 be wrong, but I'm 90% sure they even went along with Rachel Notley's carbon taxes. They thought

00:11:16.440 it would buy them social license. They knew it was dumb policy, wouldn't do anything for the 0.92

00:11:19.380 environment, would hurt the bottom line, but hey, whatever, maybe some people will like us for it. 0.91

00:11:25.240 They've gone along with a lot of this stuff. Somebody's probably gone along a little less

00:11:29.800 with them historically is Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. She had some words today. I'm

00:11:34.780 going to just quote at length from her statement. Stephen Gilbo has once again shown his utter

00:11:39.320 contempt for Alberta, our economy and how our energy and our energy workers. While advising the

00:11:44.860 Chinese Communist Party about its environmental policies, Minister Gilbo stated that due to an

00:11:49.780 Alberta oil and gas company's decision to focus on oil and gas production, he has increased his

00:11:53.980 resolve to introduce an emissions capital effectively for his companies to cap their oil and gas

00:11:57.860 production. Minister Gilbo's comments are a continuation of his provocative verbal attack

00:12:02.840 attacks on Alberta's energy sector, the most environmentally responsible and ethical energy

00:12:07.480 energy producing jurisdiction in the world. His involvement in China Council for International

00:12:13.180 Cooperation Environment Development has turned, has him turning a blind eye to China's environmental

00:12:18.260 record while they add the equivalent of two new coal emission plants every week.

00:12:26.120 It should continue from there, but I think we get the point.

00:12:29.560 I think it's maybe a gift for Alberta that Gilboa has done this. I think it gives some political cover for Smith to fight harder that he's operating as an organ of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:12:43.560 He is turning a blind eye to their environmental record, which is, I mean, even if you're not a greeny global warming alarmist, China is still bad. 0.89

00:12:54.700 I mean, if you just care about the environment, you look at China, holy crap, turning a total blind eye to them as an organ of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.66

00:13:03.660 And while he's freaking there, operating in that position, coming after Alberta, I think this provides political cover to Smith and the Alberta government and Saskatchewan by extension to push back. 0.91

00:13:18.700 Oh, of course it does. This is absolutely a gift. Even people who were lukewarm about

00:13:26.460 Danielle Smith see that and they see hypocrisy. The only other thing that's interesting about it

00:13:32.620 is that it comes the day after we had almost lost power. This just fortifies Danielle Smith's point

00:13:43.580 that if you have a stage three alert, because what?

00:13:47.680 Because the wind is not blowing and the power is not coming

00:13:51.220 and you have to kick him with the natural gas

00:13:53.160 so that people can just keep the lights on,

00:13:55.220 keep the air conditioning going,

00:13:57.220 do everything else you do with electricity.

00:13:59.320 And then the next day, the environment minister federally 1.00

00:14:02.080 is coming out and making a stupid statement about Suncor 1.00

00:14:06.100 that just is dressed to her mouth. 1.00

00:14:09.460 She couldn't have bought that.

00:14:11.740 It's great stuff for Danil.

00:14:14.900 Well, speaking of blaming strange parties, let's turn now to federal NDP MP, a very long time MP, Charlie Angus.

00:14:25.360 So he's MP for Timmons, James Bay in Ontario.

00:14:28.720 So he was responding to a tweet from Pierre Polyev about Alberta resident Sheila Annette Lewis, who passed away because she was denied a transplant over her COVID vaccination status.

00:14:47.760 What he said was, disinformation and conspiracy costs lives.

00:14:52.520 That was his reply, his little missive on Twitter as it happens.

00:14:58.720 He said, it's appalling that Polyev continues to fan the flame of anti-vax conspiracy.

00:15:04.600 The fact that he is cheering on a candidate who was kicked out of Doug Ford's caucus is telling he is promoting a party of extremism.

00:15:10.680 He's referring to Roman Babber, who is now a federal conservative candidate who was kicked out of Doug Ford's PC caucus in Ontario for not going along with lockdowns and mandates.

00:15:20.640 We did a story on that, just a straight news story that here's what Angus says about Polyev.

00:15:26.940 And Charlie Angus then retweets our story and says, and actually that story was called Charlie Angus blames disinformation for death of woman denied organ transplant because she refused to get vaccinated.

00:15:40.680 And he says, yup, right-winged disinformation is toxic and tragic.

00:15:45.980 So I guess the Western Standard, the few other remaining independent media in Canada, and Pierre Polyev are responsible for the death of Sheila Lewis.

00:15:59.640 I guess because we told her not to take a vaccine.

00:16:03.260 I've never told anyone.

00:16:04.580 I don't think we were ever that specific.

00:16:06.320 I have never told anyone ever not to get vaccinated.

00:16:08.900 I don't think the Western Standard has ever said not to get vaccinated.

00:16:12.100 We have taken a hardline position on your right to decide if you get vaccinated or not, that this is a personal medical decision.

00:16:21.400 We've reported on adverse effects from vaccination, and people can make up their own minds if the risk reward is the right balance for them.

00:16:28.780 But, I mean, we've been adamant that we don't tell people what personal medical decisions to take here.

00:16:35.120 uh me thinks cory that charlie angus saw this story and it's gnawing at his conscious that

00:16:45.980 the lockdowners and the mandate politicians they killed sheila lewis they killed her her blood is 0.99

00:16:54.720 on their hands because this is their policy and they know it but you know it's hard to admit that

00:17:00.620 kind of thing to yourself because everyone thinks that they're a good person you have to morally

00:17:03.600 justify your own existence. I think he's just lashing out because he probably has a guilty

00:17:11.620 conscience that a policy he supports killed an innocent woman. Well, yeah, I mean, you should 1.00

00:17:16.760 look at whether you agree with the vaccinations or not, realizing just how deep seated the terror

00:17:22.040 of the vaccination was for her when it turned out she would literally rather die of organ failure

00:17:27.600 than get the vaccination. And it's really unfortunate, but it says so much about the

00:17:32.640 state. Well, she was willing to take the risk of dying of organ failure. Well, in the end, she died.

00:17:36.960 I don't know if she knew she would die. Well, she'd had a number ticking. They told her,

00:17:40.000 if you don't get that transplant, you're going to die. And likewise, we've got a system so

00:17:45.220 intractable and so stubborn that would say, we are going to let her die of organ failure 1.00

00:17:48.920 before allowing her to get that while unvaccinated. It was just a completely tragic end that never

00:17:57.300 needed to happen. It was a standoff, I think a point of principle almost on the part of both

00:18:02.960 And it's just sad to watch.

00:18:05.960 It never needed to happen.

00:18:08.320 I think, yeah, everybody wants to point the other way to feel that perhaps they're, you know, played no part or weren't complicit in any sort of way.

00:18:15.000 And Angus is lashing out a bit that way.

00:18:17.880 And kind of as implied before, too, Angus just doesn't think and opens his mouth.

00:18:22.440 I mean, he's not the most, we seem to have a theme today with politicians who really aren't the most stable or sane or rational.

00:18:30.080 and he fits the irrational description.

00:18:32.900 Nigel, you had a really good column on this, I think, yesterday.

00:18:38.260 And there is some context to provide in this.

00:18:42.240 It is longstanding policy that other health factors, including vaccination status,

00:18:50.360 can play a role in eligibility for high priority in getting an organ transplant.

00:18:56.400 because when you get an organ transplant, you know, I've had members of my family who have

00:19:00.720 received kidneys and things like that. You're put on immunosuppressants so that your body will

00:19:06.500 accept the new tissue. It's traumatic to the body. It's a foreign object. Even if you're compatible,

00:19:12.960 the body still tries to reject it and fight it. So you're put on immunosuppressants. You're more

00:19:16.700 likely to accept it. And immunocompromised people are much more likely to get sick and die,

00:19:22.280 including of COVID. So there's been requirements before that, you know, you have to be vaccinated

00:19:30.160 for like polio and things like that. But this vaccine is a bit different, especially at the

00:19:36.600 time. It was still quite experimental at that time. And I think you explained very well in your

00:19:41.240 call it? Yes. The thing with Ms. Lewis was that she was concerned that, first of all, it wasn't

00:19:54.800 a vaccine in the sense that a smallpox vaccine is a vaccine. It's a different product, operates

00:20:00.680 in a different way, and actually had to be redefined as a vaccine by the Center for Disease

00:20:06.380 control in the united states in order for it to be commonly accepted and so that they could say

00:20:11.340 get vaccinated they had to declare something that was not a vaccine in the understood sense

00:20:17.260 of the word to be a vaccine in the sense that they wanted you to understand so there's a propaganda

00:20:22.540 element in this before she even enters center stage the second part of it was that you know

00:20:30.460 it wasn't the western standard that was advising her it was physicians of her own choosing and she

00:20:36.460 had advice from a number of people who said look don't take this thing it's probably not going to

00:20:42.620 be good for you are you going to say that those physicians were battling disinformation i suppose

00:20:50.060 mr angus might obviously it's something different from the official line therefore it must be

00:20:56.460 disinformation in the eyes of people who work in government. But people in good faith advised her

00:21:02.220 not to take it. And one of the reasons that they gave her was that she had already beaten COVID

00:21:09.500 twice. Yeah, that's an important piece of context. So she already had natural immunity. She had it

00:21:15.660 twice and beat it. That's right. And I think it's one of the vicious ironies of this whole story

00:21:20.380 is that having beaten COVID twice,

00:21:24.380 she dies because she refused

00:21:27.660 the so-called defense against COVID,

00:21:32.040 which, frankly, the jury is out on at the moment

00:21:34.860 as to how effective it was and how...

00:21:38.060 Apparently the new...

00:21:39.480 What the hell do they call this new one?

00:21:41.820 Some string of letters.

00:21:43.940 No, the Griffin.

00:21:44.820 The Griffin, yes.

00:21:45.500 The Griffin variant or whatever.

00:21:47.440 Apparently it comes for you,

00:21:48.680 especially if you do have the vaccine.

00:21:50.380 I don't know. I don't know. Some maniacs in the states are already masking up.

00:21:56.660 You know, it's not really on our topic, but you guys all saw the video, I'm sure, of these maniacs in B.C.

00:22:03.560 They were protesting outside the office of the B.C. Premier demanding a return of mask mandates.

00:22:11.740 These just these little boners. That's my new term. I'm calling people.

00:22:17.260 I think it's PG enough I can say it and not get bleeped.

00:22:19.620 These boners are demanding return of mask mandates. 0.75

00:22:24.460 And I guess there was another guy out there who disagreed.

00:22:26.580 He has a sign, I guess, counter-protecting.

00:22:28.900 I don't know what his sign says.

00:22:29.960 And they attack him. 0.96

00:22:30.820 They beat the crap out of this guy, kicking him to the ground and screaming at him. 0.95

00:22:36.520 I mean, maybe we should bring back, we should have gulags. 0.99

00:22:41.380 We'll just put the maniacs up somewhere in Athabasca.

00:22:44.760 Well, it's hard to understand why people would demand an oppressive measure for anything. 0.95

00:22:49.920 So let's oppress them. 0.99

00:22:50.880 Let's put them in a gulag. 1.00

00:22:51.920 Let's lock down. 1.00

00:22:52.720 Let's lock them down.

00:22:53.480 It reminds me of that meme going around, though, of a protest with a bunch of protesters against a police line and saying, you know, protesters demanding more government.

00:23:03.900 And this girl's getting a face full of pepper spray from the cop. 1.00

00:23:06.120 It's more government.

00:23:07.280 Yeah.

00:23:08.360 Give them what they're asking for.

00:23:09.980 Then here you can have a controlled life up there.

00:23:11.800 You can cut fire breaks, you know, by hand for the territories or something.

00:23:15.800 Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

00:23:19.000 You heard it here first.

00:23:20.780 I mean, at the same time, though, I have to feel terrible for this woman and her family.

00:23:27.120 And I get she did not take it.

00:23:28.980 She refused, as it should at least be her right.

00:23:34.040 Perhaps not in Canada, it's not your right, but it should be in a free country.

00:23:37.620 because of, I guess, her concerns and probably a matter of principle. 0.94

00:23:42.420 But, I mean, like, it's a gun to her head, and you'll do anything with a gun to your head.

00:23:50.160 I don't actually, like, she was going to die.

00:23:53.340 I mean, it's easy for us to say, well, good for her sticking to her principles, but she died.

00:23:59.100 Like, at some point, why didn't she just say, well, this one might kill me, she fears,

00:24:05.400 and the other one will certainly kill you.

00:24:08.480 I guess she was crowdfunding to try and get a transplant in the States. 1.00

00:24:11.660 She got about a quarter of the way to the half million dollars she needs. 1.00

00:24:15.600 But I don't know.

00:24:19.520 No, it's a tragic case, all right.

00:24:21.720 And, you know, the other thing that bothers me about this situation is that there are certain professions,

00:24:29.380 and i call them professions advisedly engineer lawyer doctor where you the the individual

00:24:38.020 are responsible you're a you're an engineer you design a building you put your name to it the

00:24:45.440 thing falls down you have just you are responsible and there are penalties that go with that but they

00:24:52.480 know who you are the judge looks the condemned man in the eye and says you are guilty sir and

00:24:59.260 And in the old days, they sentenced them to death.

00:25:03.020 And in the present day, it's present or whatever the penalty is.

00:25:06.900 But the judge is known.

00:25:09.420 We report judge so-and-so said this, did that.

00:25:14.660 It is public information.

00:25:18.100 This panel that actually denied Ms. Lewis.

00:25:24.520 Her effective judges.

00:25:25.840 Are comparable.

00:25:27.340 They are professional people.

00:25:28.600 They are responsible for their opinions, but they refuse to own them publicly.

00:25:34.080 Yeah, the judge protected their names.

00:25:35.820 I have a problem with that.

00:25:37.000 Dr. A, Dr. B, Dr. C through F.

00:25:39.600 Yeah.

00:25:40.400 There's something wrong with that system.

00:25:43.600 Well, it's crooked from top to bottom.

00:25:46.640 Well, okay, let's go to a bit more happier COVID news, if you can ever say that.

00:25:51.740 um so beginning pretty quickly after the first you know during the first lockdown most people

00:25:58.260 you know we didn't really know when most people generally complied it was just coming out of

00:26:02.760 china and china was lying about what was going on but then once we got second lockdowns and we saw

00:26:07.960 some funny stuff you know calgary police beating up a kid for playing hockey on an outdoor rink

00:26:13.340 uh costco's allowed to be open but the mon pa shop is not started getting that stuff

00:26:19.120 um well then we started getting the refuseniks people who refuse to comply with masking people

00:26:24.700 refuse to comply with vaccine mandates uh people who refuse to close their businesses pastors who

00:26:30.800 refuse to close their churches well they all got charged and um there was a lot of great

00:26:37.420 organizations out there uh canadian constitution foundation uh justice center for constitutional

00:26:43.420 of freedoms, the democracy fund, a lot of these things that took on these cases, often, very often,

00:26:50.420 majority of the cases pro bono. They haven't all gone terribly well, because the Canadian judiciary

00:26:55.600 is extremely deferential to the power and authority of the state. But there's been some big wins,

00:27:00.980 largely recently on a technicality. But so there was the Ingram decision. And this was a decision

00:27:06.060 in an Alberta court that ruled that, in short, the health orders weren't actually legally valid

00:27:15.020 because they were made by the Kenney cabinet and not by Dina Hinshaw, the chief health officer.

00:27:21.940 Legally, they needed to be made by Hinshaw and not the cabinet. Now, the judge unfortunately ruled

00:27:27.480 that, well, and the government can make up whatever rules it likes for COVID because that's important

00:27:31.500 and we think the government should have power to do anything it wants. So the constitutional case

00:27:35.500 was not unfortunately successful but the ingram decision because it meant that the law was

00:27:41.500 technically invalidated retrospectively has gotten all this stuff thrown out of court all

00:27:47.660 this stuff and uh some very big ones chris scott um owner of the whistle stop cafe and where was

00:27:54.260 it somewhere middle of nowhere oh by mirror yeah yeah it's a little place in the middle of nowhere

00:27:59.380 it's like the only it's like the only place to get food in the town right yeah he's got a neat

00:28:03.100 little spot, gas station. He's got a stage. He's been doing quite a few things. I remember seeing

00:28:07.800 video of police coming in on the orders of the Kenney government and taking his booze out,

00:28:15.520 shutting him down, padlocking his doors. Then he comes back at night and cuts the doors open to

00:28:19.700 his own place. He says, screw you, I'm opening up. He was a brave resistor to government power. 0.98

00:28:26.160 All charges dropped. Chris Scott is in the clear. Now, he'd be probably bankrupt if he didn't have

00:28:31.720 a lot of these different constitutional rights groups that were helping them out.

00:28:39.080 But then just this morning, we got word that Pastor James Coates of Grace Life Church,

00:28:44.860 this was a galvanizing moment in the fight against COVID restrictions in Alberta.

00:28:52.260 James Coates, Grace Life Church, I think just west of Edmonton, refused to shut down,

00:28:58.180 refused to kick people out of its church.

00:28:59.940 if the government said there was too many people in the building.

00:29:02.740 They just went about things.

00:29:04.840 And you remember, he was refusing to comply with the orders repeatedly,

00:29:08.740 and then eventually they sent tactical teams,

00:29:12.020 and they kicked everyone out of the church,

00:29:14.860 and they erected barricades around it,

00:29:16.820 something I have never seen in Canada,

00:29:18.920 the government kicking people out of a church

00:29:21.260 and erecting barricades around it to keep it out

00:29:23.720 as if we were in North Korea or something.

00:29:25.600 And the visual of that was devastating to the Kennedy government's authority to impose its will anymore.

00:29:33.160 At that point, they lost the plot.

00:29:36.560 Well, Pastor James Coates, who was denounced as, you know, kind of a COVID killer and bad guy by the government at the time,

00:29:46.380 free man, all charges dropped.

00:29:49.180 But he did spend five weeks, five uncomfortable weeks in jail.

00:29:55.600 and that should never have happened well and he should i think the government owes him compensation

00:30:00.320 for that he's an innocent man who spent five weeks in jail when we jail people who are innocent the

00:30:06.960 government has to pay i think the government owes this guy money compensation and a full pardon

00:30:11.520 well he doesn't need a pardon because he was acquitted well never like it never happened yeah

00:30:16.400 no and you know the trouble is the government i'm actually surprised it was a kenny government i know

00:30:22.800 we've had our differences with Mr. Kenney, but I'm still surprised because I know that he is

00:30:28.560 strong in his faith, but governments think church is a hobby. They do not realize that for those

00:30:36.480 people who have faith, it is central to who they are. We hear a lot about identity politics these

00:30:42.160 days, and your sexual orientation is central to who you are, or some other characteristic is

00:30:49.440 absolutely, you know, unviolable. Do you believe in God? Well, that's not central to who you are.

00:30:55.840 Shut your church. You don't need to go to church. Like, where's that mentality come from? It is

00:31:00.000 surprising that came from Kenny, because I don't think his faith is a hobby to him. I think he

00:31:04.880 does take it very seriously. I think it is central to who he is. Absolutely. He, I guess,

00:31:10.800 either, you know, we talked about this a lot at the time it was happened. He either believed,

00:31:16.080 I think seriously that he had to do this because it was such an emergency that we had to shut down these churches, we had to barricade these rebels, we had to arrest these pastors because they were such a threat to public safety and possibly to government authority.

00:31:32.720 Or on the other side, the politician got the better of him and he saw it as good politics.

00:31:39.720 That maybe arresting these pastors would win him support with centrist voters who are maybe a bit more deferential to the authority of the state to impose these kinds of measures.

00:31:50.720 I don't think Kenny ever saw it as a church as a hobby.

00:31:56.720 hobby. I don't think he saw it that way. But either he probably believed in his heart that

00:32:01.680 it was so important that we had to jail these pastors, we had to shut down these churches

00:32:05.520 to preserve public health and public order, or it was just good politics.

00:32:10.400 To me, it was exquisitely precise. I think it was Alberta Health who actually moved in on

00:32:14.960 the orders of the Alberta government, though. They were doing this under the authority

00:32:18.240 of decisions made by the cabinet. And that's what the Ingram decision came down to, is

00:32:23.280 The decisions were ordered by the cabinet and not by Henshaw.

00:32:27.140 The thing is, you couldn't go to church, but you could go to a restaurant.

00:32:32.260 Other way around in B.C., by the way, they closed the restaurants down.

00:32:38.620 But, I mean, when you look for consistency and logic in all of this mess, it's so hard to find it.

00:32:45.820 How can that be a consistent policy that's fine, this is not?

00:32:49.520 And I thought that, you know, I mean, I was a strong supporter of Kenny when he was on his way in and up.

00:32:54.360 And I'd always heard of him as being a strong supporter outside of the faith aspect of civil liberties.

00:32:58.840 I mean, you don't get much more faithless than I.

00:33:00.860 And I strongly understand the incredible importance, though, of the preservation of the right to practice and gather to take part in your religion.

00:33:10.400 It's an absolute right that must be protected, violated only at the most extreme of last resorts.

00:33:16.460 And so I was just as horrified watching them fence in a church and keeping people away from their social gathering and their faith as anybody should be.

00:33:27.360 I mean, COVID turned everything upside down.

00:33:29.780 Yeah, it really did.

00:33:30.940 I think you hit on a really strong point, Nigel, that I think a lot of church, non-church goers view it as going to like your bridge club.

00:33:41.220 They know it's a little more serious than going to a bridge club, but I mean, you can wait.

00:33:46.800 You don't really need to do it.

00:33:48.940 You know, we're working from home now.

00:33:51.680 You can wait.

00:33:52.680 The importance of a central social place, though.

00:33:55.620 Somebody talked about a bit in the past as a bar owner.

00:33:57.500 I don't want to fully compare, you know, going to the bar or going to church, but it's true. 0.91

00:34:01.020 Everybody has their social structures that are very important to them.

00:34:04.040 Their gatherings weekly, daily, and so on.

00:34:06.780 And I saw the suffering of my regular bar goers used to come to our bar.

00:34:10.700 There was nothing else for them.

00:34:11.920 When they were locked out of the bar, they had nowhere else to go.

00:34:14.740 And I can't relate the specifics.

00:34:16.000 There's a couple of fellows, they really succumbed to alcoholism because, I mean, whereas they'd have one or two at the bar, now that they had no outlet, stayed in their homes and just drank themselves out.

00:34:26.620 Like, it's important to people to have their social gathering, the people with them, whether it's through faith or through all these other outlets.

00:34:34.820 His bar that he owned in Prittis was effectively the local church.

00:34:39.260 Well, to some people in a sense, I'm just meaning it's people underestimate the damage done when you shut people away from their social outlets.

00:34:47.180 We won't get into it, but also of note, Pastor Hildebrandt in Ontario.

00:34:52.920 Now, they didn't have the Ingram decision there that just nullified everything because it's Ontario, different.

00:35:00.700 But he, the government dropped all charges but one, and he ended up pleading guilty to one.

00:35:07.260 ended up paying a big fine. But he got most things let off on him, and he was a very strong

00:35:13.220 refusenik there as well. But unfortunately, there's going to be less justice done in Ontario

00:35:18.380 than in Alberta, because here, our government was dumb enough to not follow its own rules, 0.95

00:35:22.520 and who actually signs off on the orders. So thank you. We've talked about this previously 0.84

00:35:27.760 with, like, you know, the new heritage minister. Pebble Rodriguez was, no, no, no, no, on public

00:35:35.640 safety. Where I kind of like, when you have a bad government, I kind of prefer them to be

00:35:41.160 incompetent than smart, because you can get a, they're less effective in oppressing you when

00:35:46.260 they're incompetent. And Alberta's government was incompetent enough that they didn't do the 0.90

00:35:50.160 paperwork right, which nullified all their own mandates post facto. So, unfortunately,

00:35:57.180 Ontario seems to have actually crossed the T's and dotted the I's a little more, and so less

00:36:02.060 justice to be done for the refuse next there. Okay. So I think just yesterday, we had the English River First Nation chief, their chief, Jenny Wolverine. Cool.

00:36:19.960 That's cool. Jenny Wolverine said that they've used ground penetrating radar and have uncovered 93 or identified 93 potential unmarked graves, 79 suspected to be children, and another, I think, nine suspected to be nine or so, 14, sorry, expected to be infants.

00:36:44.960 And her statement was very interesting. Let me read this.

00:36:49.960 We need to pool our resources, First Nations and Métis to continue. 1.00

00:36:55.960 We need Canada and Saskatchewan to step up, acknowledge and provide meaningful resources that meet physical, emotional, mental and spiritual needs of survivors and addresses the Internet generational impacts to families.

00:37:08.960 Now, maybe I missed it, but what I'm seeing here is asking for money to deal with the trauma of these anomalies that she calls them our graves.

00:37:23.840 No call to get to the bottom of this and get the facts.

00:37:28.060 No call to do a gentle and respectful excavation of the site to see if these are in fact graves.

00:37:36.660 And if they are graves, to do the proper, I don't know what you call it, but the proper forensic work to see if there is any evidence of foul play in any of the corpses that could potentially be recovered.

00:37:54.380 I didn't hear any of that. Not, let's get to the bottom of it, let's get to the facts, and if the facts show that this was foul play, and these are in fact mass graves or unmarked graves of people who died wrongfully, then we need to take steps for some kind of post-generational justice.

00:38:12.780 That, I would have said, amen sister, I'm with you, we can do that. But instead, what I heard was, give me money.

00:38:20.480 Well, you know, three times they've excavated GPR anomalies now in three different locations where they suspected these bodies, and not a one has been found yet.

00:38:30.340 If they were serious, and again, I'm getting more blunt about it with Kamloops because I've been waiting since, you know, that was the one that set it all off.

00:38:37.420 Apparently 200 children buried, and still not a teaspoonful of dirt has been moved to follow up on that.

00:38:44.520 I hate to say it, but I think a lot of the activists are pretty confident that there's no bodies down there.

00:38:49.020 and the show will be over if they actually excavate.

00:38:52.380 If they cared, they would want excavation

00:38:55.560 so we could find the perpetrators,

00:38:56.980 so we could find the victims,

00:38:58.100 so we could reunite the remains with the families

00:39:00.080 or the reserves they came from.

00:39:01.580 But to sit here and say, yes, we found the remains of 200

00:39:04.020 and not only just an unmarked cemetery apparently encampments.

00:39:07.360 These were supposedly, surreptuously murdered

00:39:09.820 and buried in the night by other children.

00:39:12.380 And we're just going to let that go.

00:39:13.900 And by the way, give me money.

00:39:15.100 I mean, that's really what it keeps coming down to.

00:39:16.840 I'm getting tired of it

00:39:19.140 we've got to follow up with these investigations

00:39:20.920 not just keep doing this GPR and saying

00:39:22.700 that's where we're going to stop

00:39:24.160 it's not good enough

00:39:25.860 we haven't found one body yet

00:39:29.900 not one

00:39:30.680 for a genocide 0.99

00:39:32.880 this is one shitty genocide 0.88

00:39:34.900 if you can't find one body 0.98

00:39:38.180 it begs the question

00:39:40.720 but

00:39:41.760 even if

00:39:42.940 I'm sure there are bodies around some of these places

00:39:46.100 They had cemeteries. These places were very often isolated in the middle of nowhere.

00:39:50.620 People died. Tuberculosis was rampant in these places.

00:39:55.420 This particular location, the English River one, had a fire that apparently killed quite a few people, 20s or something a long time ago.

00:40:07.740 And I actually do believe, because these were very often terrible places,

00:40:14.060 I do believe there probably were some people who were killed, like by beating or something, but hardly any kind of genocide-level extermination taking place here.

00:40:28.460 But I'm sure there were people who died in foul play at these places, almost certainly.

00:40:34.240 But even if they find bodies, we then have to do the proper work to see if there was foul play involved.

00:40:40.240 And I know it's a long time and the evidence decays with time, but there just hasn't been a shred of evidence of genocide yet.

00:40:49.940 Just please for money.

00:40:51.420 And you know, there isn't actually a shred of evidence that anybody was murdered.

00:40:56.720 We know that some bad things were done, sexual assault, that has been tried.

00:41:01.300 We definitely have a lot of sexual assault.

00:41:03.560 But I think it is highly probable that people, that beatings may have gone, because people were beaten at these places.

00:41:09.360 beatings going too far and it took place over such a long period of time it is

00:41:13.980 highly improbable that no one died. Actually I think it is improbable but

00:41:21.100 anyway we can we can differ on that I just don't. One thing about the that has

00:41:27.100 not been done at that school or any of the others is a careful check of the

00:41:32.820 records. These schools were paid under the per capita grant system just as

00:41:37.980 schools are paid now by the government. And it was very much in the interest of the schools to know

00:41:44.060 how many kids they had and to make sure that they got paid for each one. The records, therefore, are

00:41:51.700 very well kept, very precise, and they're still there to be consulted. Now, English River,

00:41:59.260 were there 97 children or 97 minus 14 infants who would not have been registered as students

00:42:08.220 who are recorded as dying there if they died what did they die of you referred to tuberculosis

00:42:16.000 there was a fire there there was a fire maybe i may be incorrect about this but i i did hear of

00:42:24.060 one of these residential schools that was set on fire by students who had enough of it,

00:42:29.940 perhaps that was the one.

00:42:30.840 Most kids have driven it.

00:42:31.660 I believe that's the one, and it was over a Christmas celebration being canceled.

00:42:35.220 Something like that.

00:42:36.200 A Christmas celebration.

00:42:37.080 Well, okay.

00:42:37.920 Well, anyway, so look, there are records there that could be extremely helpful in knowing

00:42:42.840 whether there are any, you know, if you've got records of 50 kids and you've got 90 grand

00:42:47.820 disturbances, well, it'd be good to know what the other 40 were.

00:42:52.240 Who's there?

00:42:53.080 Is it a grave?

00:42:54.060 even you know but frankly until somebody actually investigates removes the topsoil

00:43:01.580 and says well who's this is there is there anything here or is this old tiling systems

00:43:06.700 as is believed to be the case at Kamloops or is it until somebody does that we won't know for sure

00:43:12.700 and as Corey said just a moment ago nobody on the other side of this argument on the

00:43:17.900 indigenous side is particularly keen to push that because once it is disproved well there goes that

00:43:24.060 there goes that request for money

00:43:26.580 and also the ability to guilt the federal government.

00:43:33.100 And like I said, for some who might be that unscrupulous

00:43:37.220 or however it might be,

00:43:38.060 there's always a handful of activists and so on.

00:43:39.940 If they really felt there were bodies there,

00:43:42.700 look from the point of view of one of the,

00:43:44.440 an unscrupulous activist who just wants to grind for money.

00:43:46.780 They would exhume them slowly day by day

00:43:48.940 with a big press conference with each and every one of them

00:43:51.720 and horrify the nation daily.

00:43:53.300 And the fact that they aren't doing that again tells me they got a feeling there aren't any remains either.

00:43:57.820 Before we wrap up, I want to go back to, you know, following Kamloops.

00:44:02.560 There was, I think also in Saskatchewan, Cowessus, and the chief there, you know, they had suspected graves.

00:44:10.900 And I'm not sure where it's gone from there, but I do remember the chief used careful and precise language.

00:44:18.460 Suspected or possible, I'm not saying it is.

00:44:22.140 I think calling for further investing, you know, ask for money to investigate. That kind of ask for money, I think, is eminently reasonable. I think that is absolutely the duty of the federal government to step up and provide.

00:44:35.120 Let's investigate, 100%. But then the press didn't actually use his language. They just threw it right into the Kamloops narrative of found mass graves, genocide. Took it right out of his mouth. Didn't listen to the words he actually used. And I'm not sure what's come from it yet. I know we still have got no bodies, but I'm not sure if an excavation or exhumation has taken place there or not.

00:45:03.320 Oh, if it had been done and finished already, I suspect we'd know the outcome, but it may be in process.

00:45:08.140 But I remember just that chief, I want to recognize using intelligent and precise language and not just a plea saying nothing.

00:45:18.140 Oh, we don't need any evidence, but just give us money.

00:45:20.580 Well, the chief here, Chief Jenny Wolverine, no, no saying let's get to the bottom of this, just money up.

00:45:30.340 And that's not going to do credit to any potential victims that might actually exist out there.

00:45:37.180 All right. Let's wrap it up there. Corey, Nigel, thank you very much. Thank all of you for joining us today. If you're not yet a member of the Western Standard, make sure you go to westernstandard.news right now. Sign up. It's only $10 a month or $100 a year for unlimited access to all Western Standard content.

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The Pipeline： Court victories for COVID refuseniks

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