Western Standard - The Pipeline February 3, 2021

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00:02:30.000 Hi, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of The Western Standard.

00:02:52.640 Today is February 3rd, 2021.

00:02:56.180 Welcome to The Pipeline.

00:02:58.240 I'm joined today by Western Standard News Editor Dave Naylor.

00:03:01.900 How are you doing, Dave?

00:03:02.700 I'm well, Derek.

00:03:04.320 Great.

00:03:04.520 And Corey Morgan, Podcast Editor and Columnist Extraordinaire.

00:03:09.640 Happy to be warm today.

00:03:11.320 It is warm in here.

00:03:12.280 It's pretty cold outside of our offices, but we're pleased to stay warm with you today.

00:03:17.900 Don't take that the wrong way, people.

00:03:20.680 Before we start, just a reminder, if you're not yet a member of the Western Standard,

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00:03:35.520 Standard is here, breaking stories that the mainstream media will ignore, covering angles

00:03:42.080 that they don't even think about, and ensuring that you keep us bailout free. Well, today we've

00:03:46.800 got some really great topics. Really, that's actually one big topic that we're going to

00:03:50.480 break up into two why is ottawa detaining people in secret and why is the mainstream media ignoring

00:03:57.280 this uh quite something it's been our all-time record uh all-time most read story uh these uh

00:04:03.920 secret detentions uh when people when canadian citizens are returning to uh airports uh it's

00:04:10.000 been our all-time most read story ever yet for some reason the media ignores it so we're going

00:04:14.800 to talk about those two things let's try not to conflate the two gentlemen let's try to keep it

00:04:18.800 uh segmented as clean as possible as always we welcome your comments um we'll we'll try to

00:04:24.880 address them if we're not already talking about it uh directly if possible uh but uh let's start

00:04:30.080 with you dave uh why don't you tell us what's happening with these uh detentions really is a

00:04:35.600 crazy story derek this started last thursday at the calgary international airport uh when a

00:04:43.200 returning traveler from Dallas was found to have the wrong COVID-19 test. She was supposed to have

00:04:52.560 a PCR, I guess, and turned out she had an antigen test. So she was whisked away by security and

00:05:01.120 police into a van and driven to the Western Airport Hotel where she was detained, put in room,

00:05:10.640 had guards at the end of her door. And the same thing was repeated. On Saturday,

00:05:17.760 a woman called Rebecca McDonald from Red Deer had driven down to pick up her son,

00:05:22.640 who had been in the States for a couple of years. He had obtained two tests in Phoenix

00:05:28.960 and was given the negative result. But again, it was for an antigen test and not the required

00:05:34.080 test to get back into the country. He was again detained, whisked away by security and police,

00:05:41.960 put in the van and taken to the West Ender. And the great problem is, or appears to be,

00:05:50.980 with the families involved, they are told nothing. This poor woman, Rebecca MacDonald,

00:05:57.140 was in tears in the concourse at the airport because nobody would tell her anything.

00:06:04.080 She was, somebody told her the door that they were going to sneak her son out at, she was able to get over there in time and give him a hug and ask the police what was going on.

00:06:16.800 They wouldn't tell her.

00:06:18.460 The police actually said they felt threatened by her husband, who was just standing there asking questions.

00:06:25.120 So, yeah, Canadians are being held at the airport.

00:06:30.120 They're being whisked away and their families aren't being told what's going on.

00:06:34.080 It's a really incredible situation to be happening in Canada in 2021.

00:06:40.780 Yeah, it's extraordinary.

00:06:47.840 It's kind of giving credence to some of the concerns that have been dismissed as conspiracy theories about these internment camps.

00:06:56.140 I think internment camp is probably the wrong term to use because, yes, people are being interned.

00:07:01.460 But I think we conjure up much darker images of darker times in history.

00:07:08.120 Not to say this is not a dark time in history and that there's anything proper about what's happening.

00:07:13.720 But, you know, these are hotels. These are not slave labor camps.

00:07:16.940 So I'd be careful about the term internment camp.

00:07:19.480 But people are being interned against their will.

00:07:22.420 And the biggest thing for me is that they're being taken away in secret.

00:07:25.600 That authorities are not telling families where people are taking away.

00:07:30.400 I can tell you right now, if I killed Corey and Calgary Police Service arrested me and my wife

00:07:37.280 asked me where I was being held, the Calgary Police Service would tell her. They would tell

00:07:41.920 my lawyer. They would tell interested people. They might even tell the media where I'm being held.

00:07:47.600 You know, Derek is alleged to have killed Corey and Derek's being held at the downtown station.

00:07:53.840 Okay, but why would they not be telling people now? It's bizarre. Corey,

00:07:58.880 why do you think they're not telling people? Why are they doing this with such a bizarre degree of

00:08:07.800 secrecy, do you think? They fear pushback. I think they, I wouldn't be surprised. The officers

00:08:12.680 are put in such a terrible position. They have to do as they're told and they realize that the

00:08:20.460 optics, I mean, if this word gets out on this and people push back, if you've got a whole bunch of

00:08:24.500 protesters blocking the van outside of the undisclosed location, they're going to drop

00:08:28.180 them off at, this is going to look a whole heck of a lot worse. If you've got people screaming,

00:08:32.760 trying to get in to visit their families and loved ones, it's going to look bad. They want

00:08:35.880 to whisk them out quickly. They don't want the video of somebody in the airport resisting

00:08:40.040 as they tase somebody and literally drag them into a van because I think they're not stupid. 0.93

00:08:44.740 They realize whisking people out of an airport into a van and taking them to an undisclosed 0.97

00:08:48.520 location looks pretty bloody bad. I mean, Myanmar would be proud. The first notices I started 1.00

00:08:54.960 getting of this, you know, we get all sorts of emails and messages of a variable quality. I thought

00:08:59.640 as I get more and more, this is real. This is really happening. And sure. Yes, they're taking

00:09:09.420 them to a hotel, but a gilded cage is still a cage. You're taking citizens and you're locking

00:09:14.520 them up with very little communication, very little warning. It's got to be terrifying.

00:09:18.900 And they know this. That's why they're sneaking. That's why they're rushing. And this is very

00:09:24.780 disturbing this is this is just the start of it i mean this was just when it was barely being

00:09:28.300 announced that they're already starting on this uh it's it's only gonna get worse yeah it's um

00:09:34.460 you know it's the secrecy of it that's the most disturbing part to me i mean

00:09:38.540 if someone is legitimately not been cleared with a covid test to return to canada and it's clear

00:09:44.220 that you need a covid test and what that specific test is you know what i i i actually i know some

00:09:51.500 of our viewers are going to call me a communist for this but you know actually people should be 0.98

00:09:55.980 in isolation if they're coming back from outside the country and they're traveling and I would 0.98

00:10:01.660 apply that to politicians. The politicians coming back you know these kinds of restrictions on

00:10:06.700 returning travelers seem to have conveniently been implemented after all the politicians have

00:10:10.700 returned back from warmer destinations but they're doing this in secret is the more disturbing part

00:10:20.380 to me. I think the idea is by doing it in secret, their view, they thought they would keep a lid on

00:10:27.240 it. But it seems to have the opposite effect. This seems to be the worst part of it. There's

00:10:32.480 no due process. You don't get to talk to a judge there. There's no bail hearing. So if I kill Corey,

00:10:38.340 I get to go before a judge and ask for bail. My lawyer will make a case about why I might not be

00:10:47.460 a risk to flee and they may or may not release me. But there's some due process there. There's

00:10:52.580 no judge you get to go before and say, hey, I had a COVID test. It's just not the exact one that the

00:10:57.540 government wants. I'm therefore a very low risk. I should not be held against my will without trial

00:11:04.340 for potentially up to two weeks here. That's the disturbing part here. There's no due process

00:11:12.340 and people are being taken away in secret.

00:11:15.460 And that's what Rebecca MacDonald told me in an interview this morning,

00:11:19.880 that her biggest frustration after a couple of days and settling down 0.99

00:11:25.260 was just the complete lack of transparency.

00:11:29.260 And she even said, you know, she asked the police if he could be taken to jail

00:11:34.240 instead of the detention center.

00:11:38.100 They said, no, there's no option.

00:11:39.680 And she made the point that prisoners are treated better than her son was.

00:11:46.700 You know, at least if he was in jail, she would know where he was.

00:11:51.320 But just imagine this poor mother, you know, not being told anything about what's going on

00:11:56.660 and having her son, you know, taken away and put in the back of a van.

00:12:02.200 It must have been absolutely terrifying for her.

00:12:04.540 And, you know, she was in tears at the airport and she was just so frustrated because nobody would come and talk to her.

00:12:14.540 Nobody from border services or the health people would come and talk to her, tell her what's going on.

00:12:20.640 And, you know, that would have just calmed everything down.

00:12:23.140 She would have known where her son is and, you know, he was basically, you know, freed on Monday afternoon, driven back to the airport and dumped off.

00:12:35.320 So, and she's just, she's still furious and there's been no political pushback either.

00:12:42.520 No comments from the Prime Minister.

00:12:45.800 Jason Kenney put out what I consider a fairly weak tweet saying that there should be more transparency.

00:12:54.960 But no other politician is seeming to jump on board.

00:13:00.020 Technically, he's been the only politician to even mention that this is happening.

00:13:05.940 We broke the story.

00:13:06.900 A few days later, he issued a tweet saying there needs to be transparency around it.

00:13:10.900 He didn't call it for it to end, but he said there should be transparency around it.

00:13:15.280 I mean, and that's literally the strongest we've heard.

00:13:17.400 I haven't, unless I'm mistaken, I've heard zero from Aaron O'Toole.

00:13:22.620 Justin Trudeau, I don't think, has even acknowledged that this is happening.

00:13:25.140 He's acknowledged that there are new regulations for returning travelers, but hasn't even recognized that people are being essentially disappeared.

00:13:32.920 I don't think people are being disappeared and never showing up again.

00:13:36.080 They're not getting helicopter rides into the Pacific here, but they're being disappeared, and their families are not being notified where.

00:13:43.940 there's no due process, there's no judge to go before. There's nothing. It's extraordinary.

00:13:53.480 And it's not cheap either for these families. Trudeau said it's going to cost $2,000 to

00:13:59.700 house them and feed them, and they're going to be expected to pick up the tab.

00:14:06.380 The McDonald's son was not given a bill as he left. They may be sending it in the mail,

00:14:12.020 But Rebecca McDonald has said, well, send it away.

00:14:14.900 I'm not paying it.

00:14:16.040 Yeah, you just broke that story now, didn't you?

00:14:17.980 Yeah, it'll be published on our website as soon as we're done here.

00:14:22.520 Looking forward to it.

00:14:23.660 And we're going to stay on this story.

00:14:26.120 That's, I think, a good segue to the next part about why it is the mainstream media are ignoring what is the biggest story in Canada right now.

00:14:35.220 I mean, something else will take the headlines soon.

00:14:37.020 but um uh so let's segue into the media coverage of this we'll begin with our own coverage uh you

00:14:45.260 were already leading into this a bit about the kind of stuff we receive we get and we appreciate

00:14:50.000 it from all of you when you send us tips and things that are happening but we get a lot and

00:14:54.660 90 we don't take because it either it's just kind of conspiracy theory stuff or it's just not

00:15:02.620 provable we might have a suspicion that there's something to it but if we can't prove it if

00:15:06.780 there's not any there there, we can't run with it as proper news. But Dave, you, you know, we received

00:15:15.160 this one, you and I chatted about it. This was a real person. This was verifiable. And we ran about

00:15:21.680 so maybe just talk briefly just about how it is we kind of process this information that comes from

00:15:27.620 the public. This isn't something we went looking for. It's something that came to us. We thrive on

00:15:32.220 on tips from the public and we appreciate it but you know maybe talk about how we how we sort that

00:15:37.020 through and how we came to the conclusion that this was a real story well it came to us in a

00:15:42.060 facebook post by the the edmonton pastor and he described his emotions of not knowing where his

00:15:48.780 wife was and his wife being whisked away and it was really really heartbreaking really what what

00:15:54.940 he had to go through uh so we decided look this is a pastor he's publicly describing this in a

00:16:01.260 in a facebook post uh he's not going to make it up uh you know so we we we ran with the story

00:16:09.020 and the same thing happened with uh rebecca mcdonald first came to our attention through

00:16:14.220 facebook she put up a very uh emotional video of herself walking through the the airport hallways

00:16:21.900 crying wondering where her son was uh so you know this had actually happened it was involving real

00:16:29.420 people and you know the police put out a statement saying they had nothing to do with it it was all

00:16:36.860 federal health officials the alberta health services got a hold of me late saturday night

00:16:43.100 and put out a statement saying hey nothing to do with us either they knew what the fallback

00:16:48.380 was going to come and and they made it clear it was strictly federal health officials that were

00:16:54.540 doing it so you know the the powers that be also confirmed that it was happening.

00:17:00.420 Do we know which police were executing this? What police force?

00:17:03.420 It was Calgary City Police. They're in charge of security at the airport.

00:17:08.620 Well that's interesting though because they, Calgary City Police don't answer to Ottawa.

00:17:12.620 They don't even answer the province. They answer to the city and the city is allowing this to happen.

00:17:17.900 That's an interesting point to keep in mind.

00:17:20.300 As Corey said, the officers are being put in a bad position.

00:17:25.720 So we knew right away that this was a hot story, and we followed it throughout the weekend with several stories,

00:17:33.460 and we'll be continuing to follow it in the upcoming days.

00:17:37.120 And it's in accord with people.

00:17:40.260 We had record readership this weekend, put us over $2 million for the month of January, which is a huge milestone.

00:17:48.020 And people want to know what's going on.

00:17:50.220 But, you know, for some reason, it's being completely ignored by the mainstream media.

00:17:56.060 I haven't seen a word in any newspaper, never mind Canada, but the entire country.

00:18:01.160 So we're going to turn to why the mainstream media is ignoring this in just a second here.

00:18:04.720 But Corey, you had something to add?

00:18:06.020 Oh, I just want to say, I believe, yeah, the Calgary City Police are in contract to the Calgary Airport Authority, though.

00:18:10.320 So they're kind of at that point.

00:18:11.780 they take their orders not from city hall but from the airport authority which by token takes

00:18:17.640 theirs from canada customs and federal authority so it's a little convoluted there but uh as much

00:18:24.100 as i like to leave things on city hall this one isn't really on there there's a lot there's enough

00:18:28.100 blame uh to go around without making it up so that's that's a good that's a good point to add

00:18:31.680 uh so let's talk about the media coverage of this we've talked about our coverage of it

00:18:36.380 it is our biggest story it's our most read story in the history of the western standard

00:18:41.860 It put us over 2.1 million readers last month.

00:18:45.600 Obviously, that wasn't just that story, but that coming at the end of January put us over that hump to hit a milestone there.

00:18:52.740 This story was out for, I think, about three days, and there was nothing.

00:18:58.400 I mean, some of the other alternative media touched it after you broke it, Dave, but there was nothing whatsoever from the mainstream media.

00:19:07.500 there was these nebulous stories alluding that there was something happening saying

00:19:12.760 there's new restrictions on returning travelers, but they would not talk about any of these specific

00:19:18.620 cases. They wouldn't talk about people getting disappeared and their families not being notified.

00:19:24.360 It was just kind of very high level, like, well, here's a government news release,

00:19:27.540 and the media would kind of regurgitate that news release for people. The kind of

00:19:30.880 boring, generic crap you see all the time. 0.99

00:19:34.820 Corey, why do you think they have completely ignored this until really just now? 0.98

00:19:40.020 I mean, I should add, after three days and the mainstream media started to put out these

00:19:45.000 kind of nebulous, generic stories about it, Jason Kenney issued his tweet.

00:19:49.380 And once the leader of a government mentions something, well, then the media can say,

00:19:53.240 OK, I guess it's official news now because a politician's talked about it.

00:19:56.740 Why do you think they've just been so reticent to talk about the story? 0.68

00:20:00.880 because they're terrified of the cancel mob.

00:20:03.000 There is an orthodoxy, a COVID orthodoxy,

00:20:06.580 and you are expected to fall in line

00:20:09.500 with whatever that mainstream orthodoxy is.

00:20:12.120 When we've seen media figures who even talked about

00:20:14.280 alternative treatments for COVID in the early days,

00:20:17.100 and people were screaming with the pitchforks and torches,

00:20:19.360 saying we should shut down those media outlets

00:20:20.900 or cancel those hosts who even dared talk

00:20:23.320 about those sorts of things.

00:20:25.220 Last week, I interviewed Drew Barnes,

00:20:26.960 and he dared to question the accuracy

00:20:29.300 of some of the testing methods.

00:20:30.500 and look what happened. The leader of the official opposition was taking quotes from it and going

00:20:35.400 haywire, and Drew Barnes actually backed down and apologized. I mean, they are outright scared of

00:20:41.560 touching anything outside of what they're fed to regurgitate. Let's be honest, that's what the

00:20:47.020 mainstream media is doing these days. They don't have the courage to dive into these issues anymore.

00:20:51.400 The cancel mob knows how to hurt them and to scare them. They don't even call the offices of the

00:20:56.220 mainstream media anymore. They call the sponsors and they say, if you touch that again, we're not

00:21:01.060 going to buy a car from you or this and that. And the sponsors get scared that they call the media.

00:21:04.320 It comes all the way down the line. I mean, this illustrates the importance of alternative media

00:21:07.900 because the mainstream media is neutered. They knew about this story. They want to get the traffic

00:21:13.620 and report on these things. These are people that really hate other journalists. They want to get

00:21:17.660 out there, but they're scared. So it's all just milk and toast and follow the line. And we're

00:21:22.320 seeing it today. And don't forget about the government money there, Corey. The mainstream

00:21:28.580 media gets a huge amount, millions of dollars. 600 million. 600 million from Justin Trudeau's

00:21:34.340 liberals. So, you know, the bosses know that the story makes the government look bad. So,

00:21:40.680 you know, maybe that's the reason they're not covering it there. Yeah. I mean, at the end of

00:21:46.280 the day media is a business unless you're the CBC but media is a business and you have to respond

00:21:53.080 to what the people paying you say that is your sponsors and if your sponsors are worried uh well

00:21:59.240 and if your prime sponsor is the government and then i was gonna say your other spot if your

00:22:03.080 single biggest sponsor is now the federal government and they're increasingly beating

00:22:07.640 their chest and look uh facebook wouldn't even let us boost the post uh at our own cost facebook

00:22:13.720 wouldn't let us boost the post on this story because it's critical of COVID orthodoxy. And

00:22:20.920 we're not peddling conspiracy theories here. COVID is real. This is not a fake thing.

00:22:25.880 It's not a plandemic. It's a real thing. Governments are taking advantage of it to

00:22:31.240 pursue their own ends. They're pushing their own agendas, taking advantage of the situation,

00:22:35.400 but we're not pushing any conspiracy theories here. This is factual. This is a real woman

00:22:40.360 that we have talked to and verified and Facebook tries to suppress it and you know it's no worry

00:22:46.520 that the other guys are are worried about it about getting cancelled themselves I'm keeps me up at

00:22:52.040 night wondering if you know when are we going to get deplatformed maybe it makes sense for us to

00:22:56.280 be a little less nosy on these kinds of issues because we'll have no business if we get cancelled

00:23:02.520 so there's a real fear there but also I think it's I think there's also a general sense

00:23:09.320 of compliance within most of the mainstream and there are some exceptions within the mainstream

00:23:13.560 media there's some good columnists and reporters out there who are still working behind enemy lines

00:23:18.840 doing good work i don't want to take away from them but i'm talking corporately and on aggregate

00:23:24.040 within the mainstream media i think uh there is a belief that even if these stories are correct

00:23:31.080 and and true that they are still dangerous information to get out because it undermines

00:23:36.680 government's authority that's what uh what's the name of that Quebec federal minister Stephen

00:23:41.560 Gilbert or whatever Gilbert yeah I can't pronounce his name wants to control the internet yeah the

00:23:47.480 heritage minister essentially he's the goal or something uh no no something with a g yeah

00:23:55.560 but you know minister of heritage is a very weird Orwellian way of naming that department in Canada

00:24:01.240 that's the minister of information that's the minister of propaganda that's the minister who

00:24:05.240 controls the CBC, the CRTC, regulate social media. And he's talking about government law criminalizing

00:24:16.120 speech online, particularly from news outlets, but people in general who undermine faith in

00:24:21.000 government institutions. You know what? The best thing to come out of COVID is losing faith in

00:24:25.640 government institutions, losing faith that the people in charge are always right because they

00:24:30.760 appear on the television. Guess what, people? Just because Dave and Corey and I are sitting on

00:24:36.600 video with a background behind us doesn't mean we necessarily know anything. I think we do. I think

00:24:42.840 we have something to add. That's why we're talking. But just because we're appearing on video on a

00:24:46.760 broadcast doesn't make us smarter than we otherwise are. But it's a magic trick the media can do.

00:24:52.120 It's a magic trick politicians can do. You appear on the live feed of parliament and people say,

00:24:57.000 well he must have some kind of intelligence to what he's talking about it's a magic trick

00:25:02.280 and the media are a part of it so um you know covet if there is something good that's coming

00:25:08.920 out of covet it's making people realize that maybe we actually aren't free because you don't

00:25:15.400 have a freedom you don't have a right if that freedom or right can just be taken away with a

00:25:18.840 stroke of a pen whatever you did have was then just a government-granted privilege a right a

00:25:24.280 of freedom is something that cannot be taken away that your government is there to guarantee

00:25:28.920 under all circumstances and if they can just take it away at the stroke of a pen

00:25:32.680 that means it was just a temporary privilege that they grant you when it is convenient and now we're

00:25:37.880 now we're seeing the federal government talk about criminalizing uh speech online particularly from

00:25:44.040 media that would undermine faith in government institutions well i think that undermining of

00:25:49.960 of faith is the one damn good thing that's come out of COVID so far. Well, it's something I said

00:25:55.200 before, the healthiest thing that a person can hold right now is a distrust of government.

00:25:59.820 I mean, among all your health issues and so on. But you know, that docile Canadian nature is

00:26:05.000 catching up on us, though. I don't think enough people pay attention or think about or realize

00:26:09.420 the importance of these fundamental rights that are being eroded right now. I mean, people who

00:26:14.900 drafted these rights, these charters, these bills of rights and countries knew about these things.

00:26:19.680 They realize that you have to enshrine these abilities for citizens to move around, for citizens to speak, to communicate with each other, to have a free press.

00:26:28.840 And the government has taken full advantage of this emergency to cut into these very critical rights.

00:26:33.780 And not enough people, I think, understand how scary this is.

00:26:37.880 I mean, look at the basis of what seems to, you know, almost cliche is Miranda, right?

00:26:42.080 So you see them on every cop show on TV and everything.

00:26:44.540 But I mean, there was a reason those things are enshrined.

00:26:46.580 You have to go through quite a process before you're going to detain somebody.

00:26:51.160 You have to make sure that person knows every right they have before you detain them.

00:26:55.220 Even the most odious of murderers get that or those rights as a basis before you can take them into custody.

00:27:02.640 And we've lost that.

00:27:04.140 Former Security Minister Stockwell Day put out a tweet on the weekend blasting the government for doing this.

00:27:12.000 And he followed up with another tweet last night saying, you know, Canadians have to start saying enough is enough and protesting this type of thing.

00:27:21.020 And he said, if we don't, then we deserve everything we get when more and more rights are taken away.

00:27:27.620 And he's probably right.

00:27:29.360 There's a lot of truth in that.

00:27:31.620 And we've seen it with the great restaurant revolt or the restaurant revolution that you've written about, Corey.

00:27:37.960 I know you've reported on as well, Dave.

00:27:42.000 the government's taken away your right to earn a basic living, to keep your business functional

00:27:47.960 and to keep your mortgage paid. People are losing their livelihoods that they've worked their entire

00:27:52.860 lives for. And it took about 10 rogue restaurant owners to say, you know what? Screw it. I have a

00:28:01.520 binary choice now between bankruptcy and destitute or fines and arrest. You know what? If I'm going

00:28:09.220 lose money. I'm going to lose it going down fighting and these guys open their doors. I

00:28:13.780 know you are out in the field that some of them are particularly cold January day and they opened

00:28:19.220 up and 10 restaurant owners changed the course of things at least here in Alberta. The government

00:28:26.500 was then faced with a choice. You could send men with guns to shut down restaurants and that's a

00:28:30.740 bad look for a government that fashions itself as the defender of small businesses and freedoms 0.87

00:28:35.300 or they could at least give them a light at the end of the tunnel.

00:28:38.600 Now, I think their reopening plan is way too soft.

00:28:41.200 I think it's a soft, but it's at least designed to give the hope of light at the end of the tunnel.

00:28:47.840 We would not have that.

00:28:49.360 And Jason Kenney admitted such, and he doesn't mean this in a good way.

00:28:52.180 He was very angry about it.

00:28:53.380 But he admitted as such that they're only doing this because of the restaurant revolt.

00:28:59.080 They had no choice because they were not prepared to send men with guns and arrest people like you saw with that barbecue joint in Ontario.

00:29:05.300 They had to do something. So I guess across the board, people have no choice but civil disobedience, nonviolent and non-property damaging civil disobedience. Isn't it nice when you can actually change something without burning a city down?

00:29:22.300 Yeah, some people got really upset with me pointing out, you know, that this was more effective than all of the rioting and burning that some other groups had been doing over the last year.

00:29:29.620 Some restaurants dared to feed people, and it worked.

00:29:32.920 I mean, that's how civil disobedience works.

00:29:35.940 The passive non-riotists, I mean, and again, going back to the real, not these fake trumped up things that people feel others are civil rights battles these days.

00:29:44.220 The real ones from the 60s and 70s, they weren't violent, crazy things.

00:29:47.400 These were people who dared to sit in a cafe.

00:29:49.200 They dared to sit on a bus.

00:29:50.400 They didn't?

00:29:51.020 Well, some people rioted, but those were not the people who changed things.

00:29:53.560 It was people who wrote the Freedom Riders.

00:29:55.760 It was people who sat in cafes.

00:29:56.980 They changed things.

00:29:57.940 They were brave people who were facing the threat of the government beating down on them, and they stood up for it.

00:30:03.380 And again, the government backs off because they fear that snowballing.

00:30:06.280 They do fear the citizens if the citizens will stand up, and we've seen it.

00:30:09.880 Because that was just a small glimmering, but they knew.

00:30:11.880 They didn't fear 10 restaurants.

00:30:13.020 They feared 100 restaurants, and if they didn't stop this.

00:30:14.560 The next day, it was probably going to be 50.

00:30:16.780 Yes.

00:30:17.160 And then the day after that, you'd probably get into the hundreds.

00:30:19.020 Well, and as I said, I've owned a restaurant before.

00:30:21.080 It's a tough business, and I couldn't imagine what they're going through right now,

00:30:24.180 and they need, as I said, a light at the end of the tunnel, even if it's a glimmer.

00:30:27.080 But what they'd been left with was nothing, and it just seemed like every press conference

00:30:31.440 that came out, they came up with a new excuse as to why we're not going to open up again,

00:30:35.000 and the final straw was kind of, well, you can go to a massage or a rub-and-tug,

00:30:38.240 but you can't get a bite to eat because that's dangerous, and we're not going to say why.

00:30:43.200 How do you know the rub-and-tugs are open?

00:30:45.560 Rumor.

00:30:47.080 Old Uncle Tickles told me.

00:30:49.020 The selective nature of the reopenings is, oh God, I'm going to sleep in the office

00:31:03.280 tonight. But you know what I mean? I mean, and it's not the truth. I mean, we've got

00:31:08.680 these shady, I would imagine, not terribly healthy environments to be in, and you can

00:31:14.420 do that, but you can't sit down with somebody and have a bite to eat.

00:31:17.320 We would imagine.

00:31:19.720 So we're told.

00:31:20.720 So we're told.

00:31:21.200 Yes, yes.

00:31:22.200 I'm sorry.

00:31:23.060 I'm just trying to broaden our advertising base.

00:31:25.280 I can imagine some of the inquiries.

00:31:26.560 When I see a weakness, you know I have to just pounce and rip you for everything it's worth.

00:31:31.460 I believe that they're open, yeah.

00:31:34.660 You know I had to delve into bad taste.

00:31:36.540 Yeah.

00:31:36.940 It's with my nature.

00:31:37.960 Yeah.

00:31:38.720 You know, it's pretty rare I can make Corey blush.

00:31:41.400 You're normally the one who gets us going.

00:31:43.340 Thankfully, Gene rarely watches my show.

00:31:46.660 Yeah.

00:31:47.320 uh yeah no it's um it isn't and it's too bad because i think there are some reasonable safety

00:31:53.960 precautions people should be making when i'm coming uh into the offices here in downtown

00:31:58.280 calgary i take the lrt and i wear a mask there uh because we're in close quarters uh it's a pretty

00:32:05.080 empty train there's not too many people going to work on the train but i wear a mask on it i mean

00:32:09.560 it's closed environment the problem is the government's gone so radical in what they're

00:32:15.240 doing so authoritarian in what they're doing that people need to engage in peaceful non-compliance.

00:32:23.320 I would just encourage people who want to go down that route to do so reasonably just because you

00:32:30.680 have a right, well at least a natural right, maybe not a government right anymore, just because it's

00:32:36.520 important to protest against something and to peacefully non-comply with what's happening,

00:32:42.920 still be reasonable so i would ask you know restaurant owners who want to reopen

00:32:46.840 before the government says that you have the privilege to earn a living again

00:32:50.520 i'd encourage you to still you know keep keep the tables apart some reasonable social distancing

00:32:56.200 it's the basic measures just because you want to engage in peaceful non-compliance which i i

00:33:00.520 encourage folks to do right now i would not encourage people to unreasonably do so to actually

00:33:05.800 put people at risk we need to demonstrate that we're responsible in what we're doing with this

00:33:10.440 not not just floating things for the sake of floating things but let's show that uh

00:33:14.520 because with every right i believe is also an equal responsibility and if we're going to show

00:33:19.560 that we uh we deserve our rights we have to demonstrate that by by still being responsible

00:33:26.520 uh closing thoughts gentlemen well i just said we'll you know we'll keep on top of uh this story

00:33:33.560 of the secret detentions and uh the mainstream media keeps ignoring it uh fine with me uh you

00:33:39.880 You all know where to get the latest news, westernstandardonline.com.

00:33:45.160 Corey?

00:33:45.720 I'm left speechless.

00:33:46.720 I'm not talking.

00:33:48.840 Hey, Corey has finally known when to stop.

00:33:52.540 Oh, that is a milestone moment.

00:33:54.600 It is a first time for everything.

00:33:56.420 I'm sorry.

00:33:58.520 Okay.

00:33:59.080 Well, folks, I very much appreciate all of you joining us here today.

00:34:02.980 It's my blood's boiling, so I should probably get back to some more boring administrative office work here.

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00:34:23.980 independent media serving Western Canadians we're here for you but we hope

00:34:28.460 that you'll be there for us as well also just a bit of a teaser we're gonna be

00:34:32.320 piloting a new show Mark Petroni you might remember him as the Calgary

00:34:36.220 bureau chief of Sun News Network when it was around. He currently has a radio show in the

00:34:42.680 Toronto area, a morning show. He's sort of a Daniel Smith of that area, but he's actually

00:34:47.340 a Westerner. He's just exiled out east for now because who thought we'd come to see the

00:34:53.380 day where you go east to get jobs and leave the west, but that's what he's doing. But

00:34:56.580 we're going to bring him back here, and we're going to be piloting him here as a regular

00:34:59.940 show. The first show is going to be noon, 12 o'clock Mountain Standard Time. And we're going

00:35:08.920 to go for an hour to pilot the show. We'll have me and Dave will be on as guests, but we're going

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00:35:21.000 you think. Thank you very much for all your time joining us today. God bless.

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