Western Standard - April 11, 2026


THE PIPELINEļ¼š Floor crossing gives Liberals their majority


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00:00:00.000 Good day, today is April 8th, 2026.
00:00:28.000 I am Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, here watching The Pipeline.
00:00:32.480 I've got two of the three usual folks joining me, former Western Standard opinion editor
00:00:37.620 Nigel Hannaford.
00:00:40.580 Afternoon, everybody.
00:00:41.820 That's all you got?
00:00:42.740 Okay.
00:00:43.580 Senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
00:00:45.900 Good day.
00:00:47.000 And subbing in for Dave today, because we're going to be talking about a story he did.
00:00:51.700 We've got Western Standard reporter Jackson Loy.
00:00:55.100 Good afternoon.
00:00:55.700 You can often see him actually sitting kind of behind where, between where Nigel and Corey is.
00:01:00.700 I moved it actually.
00:01:01.900 You moved his desk because he didn't lie to me on the camera.
00:01:05.060 He lured from the Dave Winnick noodle incident. 0.84
00:01:07.700 Yeah, Shanghai shame. 0.53
00:01:09.200 Shanghai noodle shame.
00:01:10.620 Yeah.
00:01:11.780 Okay.
00:01:12.780 Well, of course, we're going to be talking about the floor crossing.
00:01:17.200 Conservative MP, is it Matty Gladow?
00:01:21.000 Yes.
00:01:22.080 Gladue.
00:01:22.660 Gladue. 0.97
00:01:22.980 Gladue Gladow.
00:01:23.380 crossing the floor 1.00
00:01:25.360 to the Liberals, putting them one seat
00:01:27.240 away from the majority, but there's three seats
00:01:29.260 coming up in a by-election. Liberals
00:01:31.340 stand to potentially win all three of them,
00:01:33.440 but they only need to win one now,
00:01:35.200 and they'll have their majority government. We'll be talking
00:01:37.300 about that.
00:01:39.100 As I intimated, Jackson broke a great
00:01:41.440 story
00:01:42.200 late last week.
00:01:46.180 Tell a doctor
00:01:47.120 fraud in Alberta.
00:01:49.240 You want time off of work,
00:01:51.580 and you need a sick note,
00:01:53.380 You don't even have to see a doctor. You just call a doctor on the phone and they'll just give it to you.
00:01:57.720 Better yet, they'll even give you dangerous and addictive prescription sleeping pills.
00:02:03.020 All of these things, you just call a doctor in Alberta and you can get them pretty cheap.
00:02:07.900 You pay them more. You actually get more time off of work.
00:02:09.940 You can get two, three weeks, depending on how much you're willing to pay the doctor.
00:02:13.900 So a bit of a potential brueling scandal about corruption in Alberta's or fraud in Alberta's health care system.
00:02:20.560 But first, we'll start with the big news today.
00:02:23.380 ceasefire. I'm going to use the term
00:02:26.520 armistice, because I think it's actually the correct 0.86
00:02:28.300 term here. Armistice
00:02:30.400 in the Second Iranian
00:02:32.260 War.
00:02:34.780 We'll just number it. Iran War 2.
00:02:37.180 I don't know. Or is it
00:02:38.280 Gulf War 3?
00:02:40.040 Gulf War 3? I don't know. How do you want to define
00:02:42.420 this? I don't know. Iran War 2 for now.
00:02:45.640 But an armistice.
00:02:48.340 So,
00:02:49.300 Corey,
00:02:50.600 the casus
00:02:52.360 the cause for war has always been muddled at best it was weapons of mass destruction but
00:03:00.560 i thought america and israel destroyed them six months earlier so that didn't really hold
00:03:04.980 its regime change well that also would necessitate to change the names but they all pretty much look
00:03:11.500 the same yeah uh it's other than blow a bunch of stuff up it's unclear what's been achieved here
00:03:19.060 but there is a armistice
00:03:21.660 agreement in place
00:03:23.160 there's been some violations
00:03:25.300 on different sides
00:03:26.520 as we believe in the tiff-tad of who started these
00:03:29.440 things but
00:03:30.680 for two weeks there's supposed to be a peace deal
00:03:33.400 based on a
00:03:35.260 10 point plan
00:03:36.560 put forward by the Iranians there's some dispute about what's
00:03:39.480 in that 10 point plan
00:03:40.440 but
00:03:43.160 so your take
00:03:44.620 on did America
00:03:47.660 win this war
00:03:48.660 No. And the bulk of America are, I think, scratching their heads and saying, why the hell did we get into this?
00:03:56.100 I mean, there's a lot of speculation as to why. I think your common citizen is just like, what are we doing here?
00:04:02.100 You know, you'd expect a smoking gun faster than that than if there really was something.
00:04:06.540 And it's just looking like another impulsive, strange action from President Trump.
00:04:11.020 And the brand leading to this ceasefire armistice, whatnot, President Trump's tweet or truth social posting the other night where he said he was going to eliminate a civilization.
00:04:25.440 That's beyond the paleo for Trump.
00:04:27.580 I know I've got people upset with me for saying that online.
00:04:30.160 We get over it, guys.
00:04:30.940 I mean, good Lord, you do not, in that position, no matter where you're sitting, talk about eliminating a civilization.
00:04:37.800 and thankfully it turned out to be just that he wasn't going to do anything that extreme
00:04:43.720 but I guess it was this leading up to now claiming victory well I scared them so badly they've
00:04:48.680 offered this this ceasefire which looks like a whole bunch of demands made to the United States
00:04:54.540 and not too much on the other end and now we're at as I said we had this discussion a couple hours
00:05:00.060 ago as we're getting ready for this and since then uh now the strait wars has been closed again
00:05:04.460 uh iran is launched on let's see saudi kawaii to uae israel and bahrain and israel is bombing the
00:05:12.540 hell out of lebanon so i don't know how far this ceasefire is going to last or where it's going to
00:05:17.680 go as you said the fingers are all pointing on who shot first and it's believable out of any of them
00:05:22.300 um but it's just been an interesting development i guess for the sake of not wanting to see people
00:05:26.800 die let's hope something comes together and they can shut it down for a couple weeks and bring
00:05:30.300 some sanity in here uh you know sometimes i like to say i told you so sometimes i always like to
00:05:37.340 i do a bit like i always do a bit but i don't want to be right i've always wished i was wrong
00:05:42.520 about this war but i i'll take a little victory lap i think i think i think i get to take one
00:05:49.440 here on this one and i don't want to i always wished i was wrong about it but uh let's go
00:05:54.100 through the 10 point plan just kind of really briefly again there is some dispute about the
00:05:59.800 10-point plan, it was released in Arabic
00:06:01.800 first, because it was coming through
00:06:03.480 negotiators and Pakistan,
00:06:05.760 which is funny, because the 1.00
00:06:07.420 neither 0.52
00:06:09.660 Pakistan nor
00:06:11.040 Iran are Arabic-speaking countries,
00:06:13.760 but they all have, they all know use of Arabic,
00:06:15.580 because that's their, the Quranic language.
00:06:18.460 So there's dispute around this,
00:06:19.780 but here's what
00:06:20.820 is generally considered to be
00:06:23.760 the 10-point plan.
00:06:25.480 U.S. guarantee of non, U.S. and Israeli agree of non-aggression,
00:06:27.960 they won't attack Iran again.
00:06:29.800 I got rich to sell you, if you can take that to the bank. 0.61
00:06:34.180 Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz. 0.94
00:06:38.640 So Iran has to guarantee people to come through it.
00:06:42.180 But they get to toll ships going through.
00:06:46.060 Not only have they been towing $2 million going through.
00:06:48.240 I mean, that, I mean, your eyes pop out.
00:06:51.260 It made it worse.
00:06:52.020 Holy hell, things are worse if that's the case. 0.99
00:06:55.220 Iran, recognition of Iran's nuclear enrichment rights.
00:06:57.840 So it has to be peaceful, has to be for industrial reasons, can't be for weapons.
00:07:03.080 If that's been the deal, that's right.
00:07:05.680 So that's a gain, too, because the United States and Israel saying no enrichment at all.
00:07:09.420 We don't trust you to do industrial and not take it to highly enriched uranium for weapons.
00:07:14.020 So that would be another huge defeat for the Israelis and the Americans.
00:07:18.340 Lifting of all sanctions on Iran. 0.85
00:07:22.300 Like gigantic victory.
00:07:25.500 Termination of the UN Security Council resolutions.
00:07:27.840 against Iran. Cessation of regional wars, so complete and permanent end to the conflicts in
00:07:33.280 Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Yemen, Houthis. I mean, I think that's just a generally good thing.
00:07:42.740 I'm not sure if that's a victory for one side or another, but I think it turned out Iran's proxies 0.96
00:07:47.520 like Hezbollah and Houthis turned out not to actually be all that valuable in this. They got 0.76
00:07:51.460 that crap kicked out of them. 0.99
00:07:53.460 Iran's main form of retaliation was missiles. 1.00
00:07:57.320 That was actually pretty successful for Iran's part.
00:07:59.900 U.S. troop withdraw.
00:08:01.540 So a removal or significant reduction
00:08:03.500 in the American military presence in the region.
00:08:06.720 And provisions for war damage
00:08:08.460 and economic recovery support
00:08:09.860 with possible reparations for Iran.
00:08:12.100 Okay. 0.54
00:08:13.240 I have a hard time believing
00:08:14.800 that actually is the 10 points 0.86
00:08:16.320 because it sounds like an Ayatollah wet dream.
00:08:19.620 Sounds more like demand, actually.
00:08:20.840 Yeah.
00:08:21.060 yeah i uh that being the case it's a bit early to say that that's a victory for the iranians until
00:08:27.140 somebody actually agrees to that yeah but they're saying this is the framework for discussions of
00:08:33.620 you know making sure this is not a two-week temporary armistice but an actual piece
00:08:38.100 so we're going to take mr trump's word that this is actually something that they can work with
00:08:42.340 i i haven't i have a hard time at this this is it as even a starting point for negotiations
00:08:49.700 this is a total collapse of american military and political diplomatic influence in the entire
00:08:56.320 region you've done starting negotiations haven't you pardon you've done trading union negotiations
00:09:01.140 haven't you i negotiated with you guys no look you know the union walks into into the office
00:09:08.520 and they lay down their list of demands and you think whatever and after that you start to go
00:09:13.320 backwards and forwards and eventually an agreement comes out that doesn't look significantly different
00:09:18.040 from what you started with just a little more money a little more there this is the uh this
00:09:22.920 is the iranian trade union saying in a perfect world this is what we would like including control
00:09:28.440 of the uh straits of vormuz i don't think they're going to get it i mean okay yeah in a negotiation
00:09:36.920 one side something especially with a union you know it comes one side comes with wild demands
00:09:41.480 but this was not the starting point of demands this is the agreed to shared framework again
00:09:47.400 there is dispute about about this carolyn live at the uh press secretary of the president is
00:09:52.760 saying no it's not but not really saying well what what is the framework that they've agreed
00:09:56.520 to they have agreed to 10 points what are the 10 points you've agreed to so this is not a starting
00:10:01.320 point this is at least as far as we know this is the starting uh this is the shared framework for
00:10:06.760 if so this is an object total defeat of the united states and humiliation of it in the region well
00:10:13.960 if that was in fact if that becomes the permanent agreement you would be right but i don't think
00:10:21.560 it's going to be that in part of anything else from what we're hearing it's going to start up
00:10:26.520 again in 24 hours if not 24 48 and it won't be a won't be a framework for anything other than
00:10:33.160 What did you call it? A wet dream?
00:10:35.280 Ayatollah's wet dream.
00:10:37.100 I mean, a trademark and something right now. 1.00
00:10:39.100 That's usually a goat's dancing across. 0.91
00:10:45.040 Jackson, I know 0.96
00:10:46.800 these warmongers are trying to walk
00:10:49.320 their previous statements back.
00:10:51.040 I think you've had a bit of a different day on it.
00:10:58.640 I don't say I put up a meme of, you know,
00:11:00.680 we all remember, too young for you,
00:11:02.800 You're too young, but George Bush on the aircraft carrier with the mission accomplished.
00:11:06.720 Yeah.
00:11:07.760 We had when we photoshopped Donald Trump onto it.
00:11:11.940 I feel like that is even too far because at least and thank God they didn't go too far.
00:11:19.660 I think they very much wanted a ground invasion, a full dirty war here.
00:11:24.440 But the chief of staff for the U.S. Army resigned over this.
00:11:31.860 and roughly half a dozen generals
00:11:34.740 that we're aware of,
00:11:35.660 a lot of the upper brass,
00:11:37.100 they were either fired, resigned,
00:11:39.700 or forced to resign,
00:11:40.540 combinations of these things.
00:11:42.280 It seems they couldn't find a general
00:11:44.860 willing to carry out the orders here
00:11:47.300 for a ground invasion.
00:11:48.560 And so they just kind of threw up their hands.
00:11:51.520 You know, Trump is,
00:11:53.060 according to Trump,
00:11:53.560 he's never lost anything in his life.
00:11:54.660 We've won, tremendous victory,
00:11:56.060 total victory, unconditional surrender.
00:11:57.760 And he even said it's regime change
00:11:59.580 and it's literally just the sun
00:12:01.060 of the Ayatollah.
00:12:03.860 What do you think finally got the Americans
00:12:06.080 just to go from 24 hours earlier
00:12:08.440 threatening genocide
00:12:09.820 and like implying nuclear war
00:12:12.420 to seemingly agree to a framework
00:12:16.240 that is a total humiliation?
00:12:18.080 I think from the get-go of this war,
00:12:19.560 there's been really, 0.60
00:12:21.260 the reason for the invasion,
00:12:22.760 or for the, not the invasion,
00:12:23.780 the attack on Iran has been muddled.
00:12:27.760 There's been no clear,
00:12:28.780 at least with Iraq
00:12:29.620 with iraq and with the gulf war there was it was regime change and they said from the outset no
00:12:33.860 it was weapons of mass destruction at least they had just two whereas with iran is from the start
00:12:40.500 there's been no clear objective and so when you start a war with no clear objective
00:12:44.660 and then claim victory when the end goal will be what if in the when the best case scenario
00:12:49.780 will be status quo from beforehand so i can't see how they can come out of this in any sort of
00:12:56.420 positive manner like i mean i guess in trump's eyes he's he's killed the ayatollah so that's a
00:13:01.760 victory but again i don't think the americans understand is when you're dealing with a regime
00:13:05.880 like iran that martyrdom that sense of like dying for the cause will only bolster support with the
00:13:11.700 iranian people and before this is there was a sort of a a simmering support for the return of the
00:13:17.280 shah and kind of you know persian monarchism and that but now it's it like you threaten to annihilate
00:13:24.360 the people you're not gonna be winning popular support and getting those people to rise up to
00:13:28.000 support the person who says we're gonna annihilate you it just it doesn't make sense well i mean this
00:13:32.720 is one of the uh well should have been lessons of say the second world war is demanding unconditional
00:13:38.140 surrender means that people are not going to be willing to overthrow their regime to attain better
00:13:44.080 peace terms it's like you know when it becomes clear like we're going to annihilate you we're
00:13:48.480 going to crush your cities carve up your territory people will not people tend to rally behind the
00:13:53.720 regime even if they don't like the regime and you can you threaten annihilating a civilization 0.65
00:13:59.720 intimating essentially a nuclear attack people like you know and you start blowing up civilian 0.98
00:14:05.600 infrastructure you can turn me into a friggin ayatollist i'll go blow myself like god at that 0.75
00:14:10.520 point well not just that but the threatening of energy infrastructure and on another point i don't 0.84
00:14:14.920 think trump i think trump understands like i don't think he truly understands the word unconditional
00:14:18.780 surrender means i think he's heard it and same with pete heggs as well i think he just heard that
00:14:22.660 that's what you get when you win a war you get unconditional surrender so they're saying
00:14:25.420 unconditional surrender you will not get that with this regime and it would that was that was
00:14:29.680 never going to happen iran is like iran is not afghanistan is a country of 90 million people
00:14:34.000 you were never going to be able to fully it's assert your will on that country so any thoughts
00:14:39.720 of that was was well it's also a misinterpretation of the atmosphere on the ground too though i mean
00:14:44.680 there had been a lot of activity looking like maybe the citizenship were ready to rise up like
00:14:48.620 If we could just shake down the regime enough, the people themselves were going to get up and, you know, have a revolution, which didn't happen.
00:14:56.580 If anything, actually, it seems to have unified them.
00:14:59.940 But, you know, there were mass protests.
00:15:02.180 There were people pushing back against the regime.
00:15:05.020 I guess when push came to shove, though, they were still saying, well, we'd rather the dictator who's our guy over the overseas dictator who's not.
00:15:13.780 Do we have that in writing somewhere?
00:15:15.900 with the express will of the, you know, the ordinary Iranian.
00:15:20.820 No, I mean, that's a hard thing to read, but I mean, at least, you know, your hope 1.00
00:15:25.780 would be if there was such an atmosphere that they were ready to overthrow.
00:15:29.240 If you've weakened the regime enough, that's when people are going to see that opportunity
00:15:31.940 and say, let's go for it because they tried a couple of months ago and tens of thousands
00:15:36.240 of them died for their efforts and, you know, you would see what happens when they start
00:15:42.200 slipping weapons in the back door in iran that might have been more of the which is i think
00:15:48.840 quietly being attended to well that should have been done maybe it seems like something you do
00:15:53.640 before you yeah you know like you'd be in a position like no you'll see you know one thing
00:16:00.760 is for sure there ain't going to be any iranian nuclear weapon in the very near future or even in
00:16:05.000 the midterm future well actually i i would leave this point um we don't really know what the status
00:16:11.000 of the Iranian nuclear program was we don't know if they were actively building weapons with the
00:16:14.720 first Iranian war six months ago. We don't know if they were building one this time. They provided
00:16:18.860 essentially no proof both times. But, you know, as I've made the point before, they claimed that
00:16:26.360 they utterly annihilated their program and set it back decades, six months ago, and then they
00:16:31.180 claimed to be doing it again now. So I am hesitant to believe U.S. and Israeli intelligence around
00:16:38.380 this, following also Iraq
00:16:40.180 before that. I'm pretty hesitant to believe
00:16:42.300 that. But I can
00:16:44.100 just gaming things out, 1.00
00:16:46.580 I'll tell you, if the Iranians 1.00
00:16:48.360 weren't building a nuclear weapon 1.00
00:16:50.340 before, they are now.
00:16:52.060 That is the only guarantee they have that this
00:16:54.300 doesn't happen in a third war. They want to.
00:16:56.580 They certainly are in no position to do so.
00:16:59.020 I'm not. Who knows?
00:17:00.500 Who knows? We'll see what else will be.
00:17:01.840 Or you could just go buy some dirty bomb parts
00:17:04.040 from someone else who's already got them.
00:17:06.160 I don't know. But I
00:17:07.500 if the Iranians were playing ball before, 1.00
00:17:10.260 and again, I don't believe any of the intelligence,
00:17:12.740 I don't believe the propaganda from either sides,
00:17:14.500 I don't know what to believe.
00:17:16.160 But if they weren't building a bomb before,
00:17:17.640 they are definitely building one right now.
00:17:19.900 They have to build a bomb, essentially.
00:17:21.440 Or their resolve has been strengthened in that.
00:17:23.160 Yeah.
00:17:23.460 It's like, you're not installing a,
00:17:25.840 killing the top brass is not going to make them be,
00:17:27.520 okay, you're a friendly power we can deal with. 0.82
00:17:29.080 Even if I was like a secular, liberal,
00:17:31.700 Persian monarchist regime in Iran,
00:17:34.860 I would be quietly building a bomb right now. 0.99
00:17:36.760 It's pretty clear that that's the only deterrent to stop war every six months.
00:17:41.180 I don't know about that.
00:17:41.640 I mean, that's the one and only thing that could get the world on side with the U.S. again to go in.
00:17:45.680 Because that is the one regime I really don't want to see getting a bloody bomb.
00:17:50.380 And I understand it's questionable the word of Trump or even Bush when it came to weapons of mass destruction.
00:17:56.300 But if they really start building one and that evidence really comes up, boy, the United States would love to be able to point to that.
00:18:01.400 That's when you can get a coalition.
00:18:02.200 But will anybody believe their evidence now?
00:18:03.880 It's the boy who cried wolf. 0.57
00:18:05.040 You've had Iran 1, you've had Iran 2, and there's been no solid evidence provided any of those three times. 0.75
00:18:12.620 So Iran could build a bomb now, and who's going to believe the Americans or Israelis if they claim it? 0.85
00:18:18.580 And they might be true this time, but that's what happened with the boy who cried wolf. 0.91
00:18:22.480 Let's see if any enriched uranium is produced as a result of these negotiations, because that's part of the 10 as well.
00:18:29.880 Okay, all right, we'll move along something a little less dreary.
00:18:35.040 So, Jackson, you did a great report this week, and we were chatting this morning.
00:18:45.220 I think it deserves more attention, so we won't talk about it on the pipeline.
00:18:49.620 You've got a bottle of pills in front of you, and you've got some sick notes that you were able to pay for through the Western Standards.
00:18:58.040 just tell folks what the hell you did and what you found what's going on with these
00:19:03.320 uh kind of telehealth doctors in alberta well basically i've been able to i i could have been
00:19:07.480 off work until uh tomorrow i there no a couple days from now i could be at home loungering but
00:19:12.840 i'm not i'm here unfortunately um but so basically we started an investigation just to see how easy
00:19:17.720 it would be to get um well it started out as sick notes you know fake sick notes if you just call
00:19:22.200 a doctor's i have a headache i don't want to go to work well they write you a sick note found out
00:19:26.600 they will if you want if you want to and you didn't have to see a doctor didn't have to
00:19:30.520 face i'm a doctor just over the phone what's your symptoms i'm stressed from work i don't
00:19:35.400 know i need two weeks off okay sure here's here's uh two weeks oh you want three weeks
00:19:39.640 90 you want a month 100 like it's it's a pay-to-play sort of system and then it became
00:19:44.920 what can we get out of this how much can we get and found out you can get pretty serious stuff
00:19:49.960 like so okay tell us what you got so this is zopaclone it's a uh it's called a zed drug uh
00:19:56.600 put it on the camera. I don't want to put the name
00:19:58.660 there, but you can see there. Yeah, I don't put
00:20:00.580 the name of the thing there, but
00:20:01.960 Derek's going to start taking it. We're going to
00:20:04.500 block that little part out
00:20:06.160 if you saw it. I'm sure we don't get doxxed.
00:20:09.080 But yeah, so basically I was able to
00:20:10.280 have a phone call with one of these online doctors.
00:20:13.420 Told them,
00:20:14.580 oh, I'm not sleeping well. Stressed out from work.
00:20:16.680 A bit of headaches. I didn't even ask. I didn't say,
00:20:18.700 oh, I want, can you give me some sleeping pills?
00:20:20.820 She said, would you like some?
00:20:22.680 I said, of course. They just offered them.
00:20:24.240 Of course, I'd like some. And what do you know, I went to my pharmacy that that night, $15 later, and I've got a little thing, sleeping pills that I can now take and drink some liquor and kill myself with. So 15 tablets. Yeah. I mean, you take those all at once with a bottle. You're having a knife.
00:20:42.220 when i talked to uh dr monte gauche at the university of calgary and he basically was
00:20:46.780 very informative and told me that you know these pills are like you hear about oxytocin and all
00:20:51.340 these other like you know benzos and stuff that this this isn't a benzo but this is still a you
00:20:55.420 know a highly addictive uh sleeping pill that should not be able to get that you should not
00:21:01.500 be able to get through just a phone call to a online physician yeah so yeah this started because
00:21:07.180 Because we thought there might be suspicions about how easy is it to get a sick note.
00:21:15.820 Yeah, I know.
00:21:16.380 When I'm, you know, if I'm sick, I guess I don't have to give myself a sick note now.
00:21:20.180 But, you know, we allow people to take some sick days here within reason.
00:21:24.580 But, you know, if someone wants, you know, kind of an extended leave, you know, we require a sick note.
00:21:29.000 We don't require a sick note for taking one day off.
00:21:31.440 You got the flu.
00:21:32.620 You know, that's no one wants to get up and go to the doctor's office to see that.
00:21:35.580 But I would always expect that doctors don't provide it to me, if someone's going on long-term medical leave, that they would have seen a doctor.
00:21:47.060 You think?
00:21:47.960 You didn't even have to FaceTime.
00:21:48.920 You're just on the phone with them.
00:21:51.300 Nigel, I know you've been, I don't mean this meanly, but you've been in the workplace a while.
00:21:57.400 You know, traditionally, you would expect you'd see a doctor.
00:22:00.540 But this is a new thing.
00:22:02.320 I'm not sure exactly how new, but it's relatively new.
00:22:05.580 And Chris Oldcorn, our reporter in Saskatchewan and opinion editor, he tried at Saskatchewan with at least one of these telehealth places.
00:22:13.200 They told him pound sand.
00:22:15.560 They're like, we'll give you two days at most.
00:22:17.820 And that is so that you can go take the time off work to go to a doctor and get some tests and see what's wrong with you.
00:22:24.160 They did not seem to have the same problem, Nigel.
00:22:27.300 But, yeah, we, you know, Jax had found this endemic in Alberta and it's pay to play and they'll give you more.
00:22:34.820 they will do offer pills that you don't even ask for there's going to be people phoning you up
00:22:39.180 asking for contact information um good for some good for saskatchewan but this actually is a much
00:22:45.160 bigger deal than um just in just in alberta it's continent wide uh the i did a little bit of scan
00:22:54.320 on the you know good old internet and um there are think of three tiers very common employees
00:23:02.500 exaggerating illness seeking a convenient sick note which is i think where you were where you
00:23:09.140 then there's the occasional people doctor shopping for prescriptions but there are also
00:23:15.540 that's rare but they're also fake doctors you know this is an organized uh an organized fraud
00:23:24.820 ring and it's continent-wide this problem in the united states a lot of individual states
00:23:30.260 have clamped down on it, have brought in specific legislation
00:23:34.280 to make this kind of thing impossible.
00:23:39.780 One wonders how successful they have been.
00:23:43.000 But, you know, the real sad thing about all this,
00:23:46.840 do you ever take a sick day?
00:23:48.840 Do you ever take a sick day?
00:23:50.200 I work from home, but not a sick day.
00:23:53.760 A lot of people think there's nothing wrong with ripping off the employer
00:23:57.500 and work and staying home i assure you there is yeah there are a lot of people who think like
00:24:03.720 that yeah and the sickness here i mean there's a sickness among people who will write you a
00:24:09.600 prescription for a fee whether you deserve it or not the real sickness is people who are asking for
00:24:14.360 it 100 percent kind of despicable yeah and it's just it looks like also to a degree what's happened
00:24:19.740 is is common is a good program gone bad like the intent is to get people out of clinics that's
00:24:25.680 really taking up a lot of our front end health care and when you're sick you don't want to go
00:24:28.800 in with minor issues whether it's sick days or prescriptions like some of the moves were pretty
00:24:32.400 good like uh pharmacists can now give some basic prescriptions you go in you got a burning in an
00:24:37.520 area here's some tetracycline no sense taking up the doctor's time for that particular issue
00:24:43.440 uh but that's still seeing a professional face to face uh i i think we can't take away i mean you
00:24:49.440 know nurse practitioners as well that's an area we're expanding where maybe you don't necessarily
00:24:52.800 need a full doctor for some of these things as well even sick days because that's somebody looking
00:24:57.040 to take your temperature do a few things this this phone-in thing i think is a real problem
00:25:02.480 i mean if you walked in you mean i mean this is a story about phone-in doctors all right
00:25:07.440 but if you had actually walked in they'd have taken one look at you and say well what's the
00:25:10.560 matter with you you're fine yes you look fine to me of course yeah well and even the scary thing i
00:25:14.720 said i must stress this is i really like again if you watch the video though there's some of the
00:25:19.760 the audio from my conversation with these doctors and i i don't push i don't try i just say well i
00:25:25.740 don't i don't feel so great i don't well the order i gave to you was play hard to play hard to get
00:25:29.840 exactly hard to get see how much they offer you without you pressing so it's not even like you
00:25:33.540 can like it's not even like you're trying or exaggerating your symptoms and oh you're it's
00:25:38.360 on the patient to to lie it's the it's the doctors facilitating it or the you know not again not all
00:25:43.960 there's a place for this kind of system they don't get paid unless they're getting enough and you can
00:25:47.420 your turnover a heck of a lot with a phone assistant just out of curiosity
00:25:51.080 any idea where's that little pack of the pulls 15 tablets what's that worth on the
00:25:58.940 street it's a good question I'm not really sure I just your next story yeah
00:26:02.780 it's a good out there right in right to the back
00:26:06.740 I've already given you orders to commit fraud for pills and sick notes now I'm
00:26:14.840 order and he'd be a drug dealer.
00:26:17.160 Love the Western Stab.
00:26:18.200 I mean, we go bust and beyond here.
00:26:20.620 Once you get busted, we don't know you anymore.
00:26:22.800 Yeah.
00:26:23.040 No, if you don't go and sell them on the streets here for a story, we're going to have to pop
00:26:26.800 these and drink it with audio wisers.
00:26:29.820 Next week.
00:26:30.580 Yeah.
00:26:31.540 Yeah.
00:26:31.780 Next week on the show.
00:26:33.960 Yeah.
00:26:34.560 And just no reaction from the Alberta government you've contacted.
00:26:38.220 There's, I guess, kind of a variety of health ministers.
00:26:40.080 Yeah.
00:26:40.460 Just total silence.
00:26:41.320 I guess the College of Physicians and Surgeons
00:26:43.620 has spoken out against it.
00:26:45.420 But silence from the government here.
00:26:48.820 Any idea why?
00:26:49.960 Reached out to the addictions minister
00:26:51.480 and the health minister.
00:26:52.540 Didn't hear anything back from the addictions minister,
00:26:54.600 which is a little concerning.
00:26:56.480 And the health minister, Basie, just said...
00:26:58.460 Oh, there you go.
00:27:00.460 Addicted to silence.
00:27:01.440 Yeah.
00:27:02.080 But I've reached out to the health minister
00:27:03.440 and basically just said,
00:27:04.380 we hope that doctors act professionally.
00:27:06.820 And that was about the extent of the statement I got.
00:27:08.720 And it is...
00:27:10.380 again it is i i've heard back from the cpsa and that is good and i and i followed up with them
00:27:15.180 to see if they'll you know i provide them the name of the of the physicians that i had and
00:27:18.700 i hope that they follow up with them to really eke out what is going on here but it is worrying
00:27:23.980 that there's been basically mum from the government and and like i said in saskatchewan obviously there
00:27:29.180 must be maybe it was luck of the draw with chris he got one that was actually stuck to their guns
00:27:33.660 and stuff principle of course not this is not an attack on physicians or doctors we're not even
00:27:37.900 sure that these people who maybe these notes for prescriptions and signals we're not even sure that
00:27:41.580 they were doctors we can't verify well there's there's enough to suggest that they are but but
00:27:47.100 it's still like again it's still over the phone how can how can you be sure so so it can't be sure
00:27:55.500 i mean you can call in with somebody else's i did information and oh yeah presumably get a
00:28:01.180 prescription yeah yep there's no confirmation no not at all well i i'm gonna have to update
00:28:05.580 our internal policies here on sick notes that you have has to be from a doctor in person yeah
00:28:11.260 uh you know for all we know these the guys answering given these prescriptions and sick
00:28:16.440 notes we they could be sitting in nigeria or bangladesh or something uh just you know
00:28:21.360 give them 403 number and wrote it through yeah okay uh much more fun uh so uh maddie
00:28:32.560 Gladue? Gladue.
00:28:35.040 Gladue.
00:28:38.160 She's been a 1.00
00:28:39.280 Conservative MP for a few terms. 0.85
00:28:41.540 Ontario MP
00:28:42.500 across the floor today.
00:28:46.300 So she now
00:28:47.160 sits with the Liberal Government and Caucus.
00:28:49.340 This brings the Liberals, Nigel, within
00:28:51.080 one seat of a
00:28:53.260 majority. There are three by-elections taking place
00:28:55.300 right now. The Liberals are
00:28:57.040 guaranteed to take one,
00:28:59.480 very likely to take a second, 0.68
00:29:00.960 and stand a damn good chance in the third. 0.74
00:29:04.580 I think for all intents and purposes, 0.88
00:29:07.100 today is the first day of a liberal majority government.
00:29:10.760 For all intents and purposes.
00:29:12.360 You know, there's a lot of things about this
00:29:13.980 that just really disappoint conservatives.
00:29:18.160 One is that there's some hypocrisy here.
00:29:20.880 Gladue had actually gone on the record.
00:29:24.900 I found this great little story.
00:29:26.740 We don't often get a chance to quote the small newspapers, but I'll tell you about the Lambton Independent back there in Sarnia-Lambton.
00:29:38.660 I can't pronounce that.
00:29:40.660 There's a third word. 1.00
00:29:41.860 B-K-E-J-W. 1.00
00:29:44.020 Oh, my goodness.
00:29:45.260 So we got this little paper, and they go out and they ask their MP the last time there was a defection, what she thinks about that.
00:29:54.440 And she told that paper, allowing MPs, sorry, she's okay with if you quit and sit as an independent, but she quoted in the paper saying really the whole point of being an MP is to represent your constituents.
00:30:14.440 so if they're voting you in under one platform for you to switch for whatever reasons just
00:30:22.260 seems to me to not be representing what you're supposed to be there to represent in other words
00:30:29.300 she's saying they should go to a by-election well she is not going to a by-election she has gone in
00:30:34.100 kissed the ring i don't know what the deal is but at any rate she's not being true to what she said
00:30:40.320 even three months ago uh and in her area there was actually a actually a petition going around
00:30:48.800 that there should be by elections of anybody crosses the floor so that's one thing i i think
00:30:54.240 that she is she's not a particularly good representative for her own point of view the
00:30:58.720 other thing kind of a conservative are you if you dump your uh if you dump your party you know um
00:31:06.320 And there's five people have decided that they don't really have political convictions and that if there's a good deal by crossing the floor, like there isn't a good way to look at this.
00:31:19.840 It's just a shameful lack of principle.
00:31:22.760 i i don't like floor crossing discussions too much because for the most part everyone's view
00:31:30.460 on floor crossing cory is if it happens from another party to mine it's a good thing if it
00:31:35.220 happens from my party to another it's a bad thing it uh as gladu herself essentially seems to
00:31:41.680 demonstrate so uh my colleague crossed the floor from the conservatives to the liberals that 0.92
00:31:45.780 traitorous bastard he should stand in a by-election or sit as an independent uh but when i do it 0.98
00:31:52.160 Well, this is what my constituents want and I'm serving the community, blah, blah, blah. It's always fine when it's yourself. And I know a lot of people, probably most people watching or listening to this, they're angry about this. But here's the thing in our system. You don't elect parties and you don't elect prime ministers and leaders. You elect MPs. 1.00
00:32:12.700 So if you're upset about this, you should also pick it up with the leader who kind of recruited that person to run as a candidate.
00:32:23.840 Because I know we all love the MPs and MLAs on our own team, but here's the fact. 0.97
00:32:29.620 Most are bums and hacks.
00:32:31.800 Most of them, most people, Mark Hardy's not an example of this, but for most people, it's the best job they're ever going to have in their life.
00:32:38.020 They're never going to make more money.
00:32:39.320 They're never going to be more important.
00:32:40.440 they're never going to be more recognized
00:32:42.040 this is the pinnacle of their career
00:32:43.880 and you don't even know who your own MP is most of the time
00:32:46.840 she's been there for a while
00:32:48.640 I bet you half the people in her writing probably don't even know
00:32:50.620 who she is 0.99
00:32:51.400 they're bums and hacks on both sides 1.00
00:32:54.820 and there's certainly a bunch 0.64
00:32:56.800 of exceptions but this is
00:32:58.380 the default because 0.99
00:33:00.160 leaders like bums and hacks 0.99
00:33:02.860 as MPs and MLAs because 0.71
00:33:04.480 they're more compliant
00:33:06.140 you could sit
00:33:08.920 on this committee, you could be
00:33:10.140 shadow minister of this you can be the parliamentary secretary of that or if you behave really well
00:33:14.640 you can be a minister of government uh they're more pliable you know and so this is part of the
00:33:20.460 over centralized party and leadership system that we have this is one of the results is that um
00:33:26.860 you're going to attract less people to politics who are of strong conviction um you know you might
00:33:33.580 like them or not but you'll never see like uh you know like a scott reed he's an mp in the ottawa
00:33:39.500 Valley of rural Ontario, hard right wing. You'll never see him cross the Liberals because he is
00:33:44.700 he is a hardcore conservative. His problem is that his party are a bunch of wimps but so if he leaves
00:33:50.140 he would sit as an independent or join the PPC or something but he's never going to join the Liberals
00:33:54.140 no matter what they really offer him because it's just too far past. But we tend not to recruit
00:33:58.860 people like this as candidates because they're more problematic. I like to think that case in
00:34:03.740 scott reed's case but if you look at uh gladu's history she's a blue tory she was uh most of her
00:34:11.340 questions have been on ending the gun grab on uh checking into vaccine and you just have to slap
00:34:16.300 down my whole point my thesis right there yeah you got a point she i mean some of them when we
00:34:21.180 look at general he was always kind of a mushy red he's a hack yes but she actually came from the
00:34:27.660 unapologetic hardcore conservative and uh what i gotta wonder about some of the consequences
00:34:32.300 this and i agree with you like the the ability to cross the floor is important and i know we've had
00:34:36.220 those discussions a lot of listeners will always get as much as it sucks it's part of this key to
00:34:40.300 the functioning constitution of a party it'll centralize the power even more if you get that
00:34:44.140 away yeah but uh in her case i think i have a feeling some liberals aren't going to be too 0.99
00:34:49.420 thrilled with having them sit or sitting next to them either this isn't she has to sit with 0.94
00:34:52.860 new democrats in the caucus that across the floor say her and steven cabot in the same party now 1.00
00:34:56.780 the reek of the opportunism on her part uh the completely throwing away of everything she claimed
00:35:02.940 she stood for in the past like this is i i don't i agree like scott reed's well established i don't
00:35:08.780 think we would ever he would sit as an independent before we go i could be proven wrong but i i could
00:35:13.180 but she politically and ideal ideologically was very much on the same bench as him and she threw 0.99
00:35:19.020 that to the wind because she wants to as you said wants that more importance a little more money a
00:35:23.740 few more committees to say i'm a part of the government and it just creates so much cynicism
00:35:28.780 among people this is what makes people throw their hands up give up and not even vote at all which
00:35:33.500 is as ineffective as voting might feel like not doing it at all will make it worse you know
00:35:38.140 changing the parties doesn't even really change the government very much but right now the
00:35:41.980 government itself could change even without an election to your point on her principles
00:35:47.740 she was actually actually voted against the ban on conversion therapy which sets her as a
00:35:55.740 sort of right of me yeah so it wouldn't be surprising and i don't know it to the case
00:36:01.660 wouldn't be surprising if she was pro-life because the two tend to go together in which
00:36:06.780 case she's now in a party that theoretically doesn't she's not allowed to be a part of not
00:36:11.100 allowed to be a part of yeah the other thing that you have to like about her at the time was that 0.91
00:36:15.340 she voted um voted for ending uh mandates during the covet area she called lifting the federal 0.54
00:36:24.300 vaccine mandates affecting travel and federally regulated workers was defeated of course but she
00:36:29.980 was on the right side so this is a there's more to this and i just do not frankly understand
00:36:37.260 frailty as i name his woman jackson um it was just a few months ago the conservatives national
00:36:45.020 Convention was in town.
00:36:47.000 Polyev was pretty
00:36:48.840 triumphant in his leadership review. I forget exactly
00:36:51.100 what it was, but it was, I think, fairly high.
00:36:52.900 87? 87, yeah.
00:36:55.000 Pretty solid. It wasn't Danielle Smith,
00:36:57.160 North Korean territory, but
00:36:58.980 it was very strong. 0.87
00:37:00.720 He seemed unassailable.
00:37:02.960 But, I mean, the floor crossings had already
00:37:04.940 started. Some of us
00:37:06.980 around the office, myself
00:37:08.800 included, were speculating that floor crossing
00:37:10.880 could happen during the convention to try and demoralize
00:37:13.240 everyone while they're there. That didn't happen.
00:37:15.020 But Jenner, I think, went right after the convention.
00:37:20.340 He's passed his leadership review vote solidly, but that is never a guarantee you actually make it to the next election.
00:37:26.900 And I've generally considered theories that, you know, he'd be ousted to be fantastical, kind of Doug Ford projecting, wanting things to happen rather than actually sober analysis of things.
00:37:38.600 um but today's the first day where i've at least allowed a little bit of doubt that
00:37:44.420 huh it's been four or five now that's a lot yeah um you know think back when daniel smith was the
00:37:53.200 wild rose leader core remember this she uh thumped she triumphed in her leadership review vote
00:37:58.820 uh but right after she had two floor crossings against her and a month and a half after that
00:38:04.700 She crossed the floor with two-thirds of the caucus. 1.00
00:38:07.580 The bottom fell out in a nuclear spectacular fashion.
00:38:13.760 You know, you've, you think, in Alberta,
00:38:17.200 Ed Stelmack passed his leadership review months later, gone.
00:38:21.740 Alison Redford passed her leadership review months to a year later, gone.
00:38:26.400 Passing a leadership review gets you through a major hurdle that you have to cross, 0.52
00:38:32.480 but it doesn't guarantee you make it to the next election.
00:38:34.700 I don't know what do you think the chances are now as as these numbers continue to pile up
00:38:41.880 that eventually it's just going to be you know the caucus could say you've got the support of
00:38:47.060 the members generally and we love you but clearly the center can't hold here you gotta go I just
00:38:53.480 think like it's a really unfortunate time for polyps what I think because you know he he had
00:38:58.300 the leadership review and he's trying no more softer approach or more you know he's not he's
00:39:03.280 He said he doesn't want to attack Kearney as he did Trudeau, which I think is something that probably will benefit him.
00:39:08.820 And we've seen his polling numbers kind of stabilize around 34, 35 percent, which historically is that's that's election winning numbers for the for a conservative party or close to it.
00:39:17.640 Anyways, minority numbers. Do I think he I really couldn't say like because when you look at the kind of the coalition that Mark Kearney is building, he's he's trying to match that.
00:39:31.140 i think he's trying to match that sort of calm leadership that carney is now sort of generating
00:39:38.520 but i i like at least with with when you look at the ndp i don't agree with the leader they've
00:39:44.160 they've elected but at least that's something that carney that's a base current does not have
00:39:48.780 he does not have that left wing base poly of now is with as more people sort of even the more like
00:39:57.540 socially conservative people like Glado
00:39:58.920 who are now migrating to Carney's party
00:40:01.580 it's going to be increasingly difficult for him
00:40:03.520 to justify
00:40:05.200 what his policies are, why he's
00:40:07.660 different, what makes him an attractive candidate to vote
00:40:09.660 for instead of the Liberal Party
00:40:11.460 which I wouldn't have said two years ago
00:40:13.760 when he was polling at 47%.
00:40:16.700 We all
00:40:17.660 saw
00:40:18.020 Poliev on Joe Rogan experience
00:40:20.780 and a lot of people
00:40:22.680 commented that this was a new statesman-like
00:40:25.640 this was the grown-up Poliev
00:40:27.340 of doing his best to give the dad vibes that Mark Carney might give,
00:40:35.020 depending on who you're talking to.
00:40:37.440 Certainly more dad vibes than, say, Justin Trudeau would project.
00:40:40.660 That's easy.
00:40:41.760 But, you know, he was talking about, you know,
00:40:45.260 the Liberals taking his policies.
00:40:46.620 He's like, that's good.
00:40:47.380 I want them to steal my policies.
00:40:50.580 But does he want the Liberals to steal his MPs?
00:40:55.220 This is a lot now.
00:40:57.000 This is a lot. This is not just, you know, you can't just say, hey, this was just this one miscontent and caucus, and we're glad that guy's gone. This is a lot now, as Corey said, Gladue, you know, as he said in blowing up my thesis around who crosses floors, this was not fitting the profile of, say, a Matt Jenner, who's like a really red Tory, kind of a political hack and a swing riding.
00:41:24.040 that this is different so you know like as we're sitting here as i was just saying that i got a
00:41:30.980 text from a friend of mine i won't just give their name on here this is a poly of supporter
00:41:36.920 this is a fairly significant conservative in alberta and he's just it's over for pp uh
00:41:42.300 i won't go that far yet but i'll say today is the first day where i've thought post-election
00:41:48.140 his job is not guaranteed until the next vote.
00:41:52.780 Well, you know, I kind of, I understand what you're saying,
00:41:57.680 but I think there's something wrong with the way that the Conservative Party has chosen its candidates.
00:42:04.740 We all know that a lot of strings were pulled to put certain people in place.
00:42:11.680 Those have not necessarily gone well.
00:42:13.640 and it is time we have a few more scott reeds and a few less people who just don't conservative
00:42:19.560 because they think it's the thing to do to your point the uh it's a little early to call it yet
00:42:26.120 but uh just as pierre has been the victim of a lot of bad luck he can also become the victim of
00:42:33.480 some good luck courtesy of mr lewis he made the point that that's a base that mr carney doesn't
00:42:39.080 have well you know what mr carney actually won about two million and maybe a little more two
00:42:44.760 million ndp votes to put his majority together abby lewis is almost a socialist out of central
00:42:54.200 casting and i think the nutters will come back to him and give him a lot of steam now it's going to
00:43:01.000 take a few months before we see that but i think the ndp is going to come storming back they're all 0.91
00:43:07.880 mad what they're proposing is is rubbish but it sounds so good if you are a commie you know 0.62
00:43:17.620 we are going to have free groceries we are going to make the rich pay you know but wouldn't those 0.90
00:43:24.480 people already be the the ndp base who voted who were the what the seven percent six percent they
00:43:28.640 got in the last election i feel like all this does is just consolidate that base to lewis
00:43:32.620 Okay, we got to move on to parting shots, though, because we are out of time.
00:43:38.580 But since I had to cut Jackson off there, Jackson gets first parting shot.
00:43:42.420 Although I didn't even tell you to prepare one.
00:43:43.680 No, well, I'll say something. 1.00
00:43:45.160 I think that it'll be interesting to see, and just going off the Pollyhead stuff here, 1.00
00:43:49.720 there's been lots of talk about, I did an analysis piece a couple weeks back 0.95
00:43:52.960 when the Nunavut MP from the NDP crossed the floor to the Liberals.
00:43:57.040 And I just think, obviously, Carney has been, he's been soaring right now in the polls,
00:44:01.380 And he's, you know, got seemingly the mandate of heaven at the minute with all these floor crosses and everything.
00:44:07.440 But that's with the public perception that he has a minority.
00:44:12.640 So I wonder if maybe this public perception will change once he has a majority and if he's unable to do the things he's promised.
00:44:19.080 I just I wonder if that will happen.
00:44:20.360 And that's something that I really think maybe Paul is banking on.
00:44:23.880 I don't know.
00:44:24.600 I think when the next election comes, he's going to say he needs a strong, stable, majority, carny government.
00:44:31.380 Corey, there's an ideological shift that has been happening in Congress City Hall.
00:44:36.140 They actually reversed the blanket rezoning, which was the hallmark of the Gondek government there, I guess you could say.
00:44:42.760 And I just reminded people, watch Mike Thomas.
00:44:44.380 He's been covering this, and this actually happened.
00:44:46.780 We're going to see what becomes of that next, though, because people don't watch their municipal politics closely enough.
00:44:52.720 And, hey, the Western standards actually hit really well at City Hall.
00:44:55.560 Indeed.
00:44:57.400 Sometimes it's the little things that give away the bigger picture. 0.77
00:45:00.320 And Prime Minister Carney, given his due, thinks it's a big deal that a Canadian spoke
00:45:06.440 French en route to the moon.
00:45:08.920 He actually put out a press release saying, what a good this thing and historic.
00:45:13.580 Meanwhile, the Canadian in question, good man, I have no doubt, but he's sitting in
00:45:17.980 an American-made spaceship funded by the American taxpayer, and if all goes well, is
00:45:23.820 about to be plucked out of the Pacific by the U.S. Navy.
00:45:26.460 Now, if he had to speak French at all, maybe Mr. Carney could have just said, merci, Monsieur Trump.
00:45:37.200 You know, how do we manage to make a French moment out of an American achievement?
00:45:41.620 It's just a little sad.
00:45:44.720 I think you're missing the bigger picture here.
00:45:46.520 This is Quebec's plan to establish a colony on the moon.
00:45:49.860 It can go.
00:45:50.380 the the language bill 101 and language laws will be in effect on the moon okay uh i just want to
00:46:01.500 give uh note to uh poll came out uh just the other day showing a slim majority 53 ish percent
00:46:09.260 of canadians polled say that they believe canada should join the european union i think as you
00:46:16.180 played it before we came on, I think it was you and I were going to say
00:46:18.360 before we started recording, was
00:46:20.440 that, you know, file us under polling 1.00
00:46:22.320 for stupid. I mean, 1.00
00:46:24.220 it's a hypothetical.
00:46:26.500 Almost certainly would never happen, but, you know,
00:46:29.120 we are in a crazy world
00:46:30.460 where things are in wild flux.
00:46:33.480 I would say
00:46:34.400 never. I think it's highly improbable.
00:46:37.500 But I
00:46:38.420 just, and if you look at, you know, the cross
00:46:40.420 tabs here, you know, it tends to be like
00:46:42.300 boomer liberals who like
00:46:44.560 the idea of joining the eu i think they visited europe when europe was still european so they're
00:46:49.060 probably remembering it more fondly than it should get at this point yeah um but you know these are
00:46:54.980 this is the elbows up crowd that is terrified of becoming the 51st state yeah i don't think that
00:47:01.600 would be a good thing i don't want to join the states uh but i didn't take trump particularly
00:47:05.220 seriously about it uh even if i think it was kind of a glint in his eye of something he'd like
00:47:09.300 these people freaked out
00:47:11.640 about the idea of joining the United States
00:47:14.160 that we're joined at the hip to
00:47:15.460 but the idea of just surrendering our sovereignty
00:47:18.000 to a supranational federation
00:47:19.940 that's even worse and even more
00:47:22.100 dysfunctional than the United States
00:47:23.560 I
00:47:25.120 I need to move
00:47:28.160 to the moon
00:47:28.920 I clearly just don't belong with DCM
00:47:31.200 this is a parting barrage
00:47:32.860 parting rocket
00:47:35.220 okay
00:47:36.780 I agree with you
00:47:37.840 Nigel, Corey, Jackson, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you for John running the studio today and all of you for joining us on the pipeline. Remember, we need your support. Go to westernstandard.news, click on subscribe. It's $10 a month or $100 a year to get unlimited access to all Western Standard content and to support the work that we are doing here. Thank you very much and God bless.
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