THE PIPELINEļ¼ Freelandās allegiance, free helicopter rides and 'Team Americaļ¼ World Police'
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After a long break, Derek Fildebrandt and Corey Morgan are back with a new episode of The Pipeline. They talk about Chrystia Freeland's new job in Ukraine, the disappearance of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, and why Canada should be worried about what's going on in Venezuela.
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Good day! Welcome back to the Pipeline. Happy New Year!
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Today is January 7th, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and this
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is the first Pipeline of 2026. I've missed you all very much. I've also missed my dear
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colleagues here, former Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.
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I liked you not that much. I really liked doing nothing for a while.
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And I also missed our dear friend, Corey Morgan, senior Western Standard columnist.
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It has been a long break. Like I said, I enjoyed the break, but I was getting restless.
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You know, actually doing work while I'm here. I'm trying to reestablish habits, some muscle
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memory of actually working, but I'm happy to be back.
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Locked in my house with kids for that long. I love them, but it's time to send me. You're
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going back to school. You're going back to school.
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So, okay. Well, I mean, there's never news over the break. Nothing happens, right? That's
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why we don't need any reporters working. It's not like, I don't know, Canada's former deputy
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prime minister, minister of finance is going to sign up working for a foreign government
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while a sitting member of the Canadian parliament.
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Uh, oh yeah. Donald Trump goes, uh, kidnapped a guy. Kidnapped the president of Venezuela.
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Yeah. Uh, okay. We'll, we'll, we'll get to free helicopter rides in a bit. We're going
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to start the first one there. Chrystia Freeland. Uh, so this was, uh, you know, one of, uh,
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Trudeau's best girls, uh, former deputy, uh, prime minister, minister of finance, minister
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of foreign affairs, et cetera. I think she was foreign affairs, right? Uh, we don't actually
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say for a while. Yeah, no, we're thinking of, uh, what's her name? Another idiot.
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Julie. Yeah. Uh, anyway, anyway. Uh, and anyway, she is still a, she was in one of Carney's
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cabinets. She's a member of parliament right now for Canada. I should clarify member parliament
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for Canada, but she is also now the economic advisor or whatnot for Vladimir Zelensky, the
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president of Ukraine. So for those following along at home, Ukraine is this whole other
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country that is not Canada. Uh, it has its own citizenship. It has its own parliament as
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its own territory. That territory is under dispute at the moment, but it has its own territory.
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It's this whole other country. I love Ukrainians. Who doesn't? We got a lot in Alberta here.
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Uh, you know, I'm broadly sympathetic to Ukraine. I'm not all in. I don't think it's worth World
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War III over, but I'm broadly sympathetic. Um, and Canada has no formal alliance with Ukraine.
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There's no, they're not a part of NATO. Uh, we have no formal alliance. Otherwise we'd be
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a war explicitly, at least with Russia. Uh, but now Christian Freeland is now an official employee
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or working for in an official capacity, the government of Ukraine. She's not the Canadian
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representative to Ukraine on economic issues, which I'm sure would be effectively amount to the
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same thing, but it's not a Canadian appointment to represent Canada to Zelensky advising him on
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economics because everybody knows, uh, Christian Freeland has all sorts of great economic advice
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coming from her time in the Trudeau government to impart on Ukraine. Uh, they can give Ukraine
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advice on smart economic policy and how to fight corruption. That's, that'll be brilliant.
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Or they can give her Maduro. He needs a new job.
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Yeah. But anyway, it's not that. She's not Canada's special representative to Ukraine on economic
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development or something. No, she's working for Ukraine while she is a sitting member of parliament.
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That blew up pretty quick. She has announced, she will eventually in a few weeks resign her seat
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in parliament. Um, I don't know. I, I'm not one to throw around the treason word lightly. And yeah,
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I mean, Ukraine's not a hostile government to us, but it is a foreign government to us and it is,
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so it's not our government, it's not our country. And we're not even in a formal alliance with them.
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I think we'd be having a different conversation if she had become the economic advisor to Vladimir Putin.
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Certainly. Well, you know, I'm kind of surprised that it's happening with Mark Carney at the helm.
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I mean, just think about it. Brookfield management, his, his company, supposing that somebody had walked
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into the office one day while he was there and said, you know what? It's been great here at Brookfield,
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but I'm going to go and work for so-and-so. Uh, they're not paying me and I'm not leaving here,
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but I'm sure you'll understand. He would not take that. He would not accept that. And no employer
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would. It's the definition of a conflict of interest. Exactly. And that's what this, this is.
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He is evidently content with this arrangement. So really you have to ask, why would this be a good
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thing for Mark Carney to, to allow? Now, I think that once the, I think she dropped this on him on New
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Year, on Christmas Eve, was it not? So will Jeremy assume he wasn't really awake at the switch at that
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point. Uh, so, but he's had time to think about it. And the only thing he can think about is the
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fact that it's actually handy to have that vote for the next, for as long as it's there until I can
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recruit another member of the conservative party to cross the floor and take her place. So the whole
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thing stinks really badly. But at the very basement level that anybody can get at, this is a simple
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conflict of interest. She's taken a job with the Ukraine. Good luck to her. I hope she does well.
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Hope she's making, if she's going to give them economic advice, let it be to buy all your good
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stuff. Haven't they suffered enough in Ukraine? Oh, well, you know.
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Hasn't Ukraine suffered enough? Okay. So I, I, you know, just, just a shameful thing. I mean,
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uh, is she a dual citizen for Ukraine? I don't think so. No, her parents are sort of Ukrainian. Yeah.
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Um, I mean, cause she was born in Alberta. Yeah. She's, she's born in Alberta. Uh, she's Canadian,
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but I mean, this is diaspora politics is supposed to at least keep a veneer of loyalty to the country
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of which you are a member of parliament to even like the deputy prime minister until very recently,
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like the veneer of loyalty to Canada first, when you're playing this diaspora politics,
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even beyond the, I mean, I don't think it goes as far as treason, perhaps, unless it was a hostile,
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as you said, country with us, but still the ethics are just out the window bad. And even if this was
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the private market, if I had said, Hey, I'm going, I got a good gig down at the national post. Oh,
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but I'm going to keep collecting the check here. I'm not going to do anything here. Even I just expect
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you to keep paying me while I go work for the competitor. Uh, how quickly would the coffee cup hit
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my head as you're throwing me out the door with my neighbor? I have fired people for that. So she,
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it's just, it's robbery. You aren't doing your job. You're not doing the job. You're getting six
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figures and an incredible pension to do. You aren't even in the country. You should, there's one of the
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problems with accountability in the Canadian system because we don't have a mechanism to fire her.
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Only she can do that to herself. And, uh, which I understand with an MP, it should be difficult to take
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one out of office, but this is a point you can't say, I got to kick it down the road and not do my
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job for a few months for the sake of Kearney. What you're saying here is actually the liberal
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mentality, their basic assumptions about how things ought to work in their favor. You think this
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would have flown with Harper? No, they would go on bananas. Yeah. And, and as I said, it wouldn't have
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flown with Mark Curry if he was still at Brookfield and she was an employee there. So I'd say the only thing
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that makes any sense to me and it may not be the whole answer is that he just wants her around
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for the sake of her vote for a little longer. Well, you know, it should matter if we're friendly
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with Ukraine or not, at least it shouldn't, it shouldn't be the decisive factor. It should
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be maybe an aggregating factor if it's a hostile regime or not. But you gotta remember the Canadian
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federal government until extremely recently did not consider the People's Republic of China
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to be a hostile foreign actor. Uh, when all the Chinese interference, foreign interference stuff
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came up, Trudeau's first reaction was you're racist. You're racist. Uh, everybody who's talking
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about Chinese foreign interference, you're racist against Chinese people. Actually, most people
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blowing the whistle were Chinese who were being bullied and, uh, coerced by the People's Republic.
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Um, but, you know, the Trudeau government was very, very friendly with China. Maybe not to the extent
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we're friendly with Ukraine, like sending weapons, sending money, that kind of thing, but still very,
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very friendly with China. China was not seen, was not as explicitly then seen as a hostile actor.
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Um, this isn't election interference, uh, but it's worse. We've got a sitting member of parliament who is
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working for a foreign, like, how is this legal? How is this legal? I guess it, I guess it is.
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Uh, as soon as she's run this through the conflict, Finchrist commissioner, I assume a lawyer is
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saying yes. The other question is, she's probably on the brass neck to do it. I gotta think that
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Carney probably isn't thrilled with this. I, I, I, she seems to like doing things over Christmas. I
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mean, it was Trudeau where she, you know, Christmas time, she cut the legs out from when you had them
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too. Yeah, it's the Freeland's Christmas surprise. Yeah, I guess. But, uh, uh, as, as Nigel said, though,
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I mean, Carney should be saying, well, you know, pooper, get off the pot. We either got to get you out of
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that seat and run a by-election if you want to show yourself as principal, but he'd rather take the egg on
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his face and say, well, we just can't afford to have that seat become vacant before it's time,
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so, uh, please, we'll keep paying you. Well, Parliament's not sitting right now. She should
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resign immediately. You can call a by-election immediately. He actually doesn't need to
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see to this exact moment. Parliament's not sitting. True enough. There's no immediate budget vote.
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They've already done the budget vote. Um, I, I actually don't think that makes sense. He doesn't need,
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he doesn't, if there's a time for it. Unless there's an emergency sitting or something, but, uh,
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yeah, he didn't, he doesn't need it right now. He- Not desperately. He could just quickly call,
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he'll get, get one of his buddies from Brookfield, put him, that's a safe seat in downtown Toronto.
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Okay, great. He's got another- Yeah, it's not like that seat's gonna go conservative anyway.
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No, it's a solid liberal seat, so he gets to put, like, you know, some, some guy from Brookfield
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or wherever, he gets to bring in someone from the outside, maybe someone a little more competent
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in finance than champagne, and, uh, you know, like, this is actually a good opportunity for him.
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My guess actually is that she wants to keep it for some reason, and what's Carney gonna do?
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Oh, okay. So as for her reasons, I gather that this is, uh, a, uh, an unpaid position for a while,
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and she's gotta wait until around about July before she starts working for the road, the Rhodes Trust,
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which will be well remunerated. So this is a simple matter of cash flow for, for, um, Ms. Freeland.
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Very, very strange thing. The, um, what's the betting, by the way, that, uh, as the conservative
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convention comes up here in Calvary in a couple of weeks' time, there's a couple of more conservative
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MPs who've been queued to cross the floor just to muddy the waters for the different subject,
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but it has to do with, uh, you know, the number of people you have on the floor in the House of
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I'm not in the caucus. That's a good question. I'm not in the caucus, but I, I just say the math
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is very strong for Carney. Um, this, the next guy to cross the floor has massive leverage.
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You can ask for a lot. Now you might not get the cabinet post that day, so it doesn't look
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as cynical and transactional as say Belinda Stronach when she did in 2005 or whatever that was.
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But, uh, you know, you delay, you know, it'll happen in six months, but like, okay,
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six months, you're going to get a cap. This guy gives them their majority. He's going to get leverage.
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Uh, there's going to be, you know, there's all sorts of guys who are at swing seats will
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have a chance keeping their seat as a liberal. Uh, damn good chance. And also remember there's
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the other side of the ledger. They're still working the NDP. The NDP guys are even more right
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for the plucking. That party is pretty dead. They have pretty abysmal chances. So if you're a new
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Democrat, you're probably going with showing that the NDP were on the uptick. Now that doesn't
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mean they're going to be a grand resilience, but the part is bankrupt. I mean, if I were to be,
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you know, Machiavellian and, and, and do the, the, the nasty political plays, if I were Kearney.
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Oh yeah. Well then where I would be sitting strategically, if I had, uh, negotiated a
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couple of MPs in the bag over Christmas, I wouldn't want to announce it right now. I want to do it
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week right before the conservative conference. I want to own the news cycle because that's all they'll be able to
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talk about during the conference, any messaging they had, any plans they had for the conference
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will be gone. And, uh, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a couple in the pocket already.
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So once he's got a couple more over across the floor, uh, from the conservatives, then she's free
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to go. Yeah. That could be the time too, where you take out the trash. Fine. We've brought these two
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in and oh, by the way, uh, Christian, you can go, uh, you go to do thing. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think the timing
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of that would be smart if the liberals can now, I guess the downside to that is, um,
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word leaks out. It's bad news. Uh, you don't want word if you lose the, also the guy might wiggle
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off the hook by then. Maybe the, uh, the MP who's going to cross gets cold feet, but maybe, uh, it's
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an, they don't know who each other are, right? It's not like they all sat in a group. I doubt they all
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sat in the waiting room to go outside the prime minister's office. Chicken number. Yeah. Uh, you know,
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who wants a cabinet spot, who wants to join? I doubt that was it. Oh, we'll be down to the table,
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back room to improve the holidays. The holidays are ideal because you have so many of those social
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functions and things going on where you can have informal meetings and get togethers all over the
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place. It's the best time for it. Yeah. Uh, I mean, Kanye is going to get his majority. It's going to
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happen. It's going to happen from conservative, more conservatives or some Democrats. Oh yeah.
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It's, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. These guys will always justify it.
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There, there's always some way. Oh my, I talked about it. Constituents tell me they want me to
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join Mark Carney. We've heard this play a hundred times before. And you, if it's to your team,
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this just shows we're winning and we're doing things right. And that we're on the march. Of
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course, conservatives are good. That's why everyone wants to join the conservatives. And when it's the
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other way, oh, they're traitors. There should be a by-election. They betrayed the people. They
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betrayed the party. It always depends on which direction it's going.
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Well, sometimes more than others, Derek. I mean, you get one.
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I know you're going to justify once to the conservatives right now.
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Well, actually, just, uh, just speaking in very general terms, you get one person gets a crisis
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of conscience and besides they must cross the floor. Okay. We don't like it, but it happens.
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When you have a number of people orchestrated, orchestrated to cross the floor in sequence,
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well then that's a different kind of political maneuver. And one doesn't make these people look very good.
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And I'm not bashing floor cross. Actually floor, the ability to floor cross
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is a critical part of our system. Our leaders are already far too powerful in the ability to leave
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your caucus. I've been out heavily for writing and saying that before, but there's truth to it.
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That is one of the only remaining checks on the power of leaders in the Canadian parliamentary
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system. It's one of the only things, uh, look at NBC. Now they didn't, uh, leave. It was the threat
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of, you know, they were going to lose the majority of caucus. They got, don't rust that out. The ability
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to leave caucus when you have a leader doing bad things and the party doing bad things, it's
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necessary. It gets abused all the time for, oh, this has nothing to do with the cabinet post I'm
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getting or this committee appointment, et cetera. And it never has anything to do with that. I mean,
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Well, they resign as MP and fight the election again under a different flag. How about that?
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No, I, I don't know. Cause you'll technically we're still not electing parties. We're electing
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MPs. We know that's not the case in reality, but it's one of the only checks we have on a leader at
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this point. So anyway, two across the floor we get before the convention. Yeah. Okay. You read it here
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first. So speaking of rides, let's talk about free helicopter rides in Venezuela. Um,
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better explain the joke. Oh, for the, it's funny. I think it's a joke that younger people get who
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were not around when it was taking place. Older people who were around when it was taking place
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tend not to get it. But when you talk about free helicopter rides, we're talking about Pinochet,
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the anti-communist, uh, leader of, or dictator, if you will, of Chile. And, uh, he, he was known
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for giving free helicopter rides over the Pacific ocean to communists. He would pick them up a
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helicopter and they would just go for, I don't know if they just slipped up. The communists slipped
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out and fell into the ocean. Yeah. The Guatemalan government used to do that as well. I visited Guatemala
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at the end of the eighties and, uh, still that proxy war going on. Yeah. People just disappeared.
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So I, you know, Argentinian and you want to do something similar with the Argentinian government
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background. They had kind of a Latin America technique. It was, it's kind of a Latin American
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thing, but, uh, Pinochet was the one most known. He, he really perfected the art of free helicopter rides.
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Um, so, you know, when, uh, the United States, uh, comes in and scoops up Maduro in the middle of the
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night in a helicopter, I was pretty surprised that he, you know, they didn't say, ah, the guy was
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all sweaty and wearing some pajamas. He fell out of the helicopter somewhere over the Gulf.
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Uh, uh, well, they brought him back alive. So, uh, you know, Corey, you and I, uh, we, we,
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we certainly set the cat among the pigeons with our commentary on this when it happened.
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There's no room for nuance in this. The world is an objectively better place
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without a communist dictator like Maduro in charge of the, of Venezuelan people. Yeah.
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Dr. Any, like, I don't know a ton of Venezuelans, but all the ones I know,
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you know, they're, they're having a little, uh, they don't, Marigotchi bands are Mexican,
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but particularly that any just for a population and because they had to run from their homeland.
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Yeah. Because the people like him, this is good for the Venezuelan people generally,
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but I'm actually pretty skeptical of this, you know, world police thing that America just
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Yeah. Let's play the song. Play the song, John.
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I mean, what a classic. When I first watched it, you know, Bush was still around. I watched it
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unironically. Then a couple of years later, I was like, Ooh. Ooh. Yeah. They're making a point here
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that I, Oh, it's a point that's salient today. Yeah.
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Actually very much so. Are they the world police? Is that the role that he should be taking on? Was,
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was Monero presenting such a threat to the United States? And again, it's not,
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that's where the discussion unfortunately goes off the rails immediately. Oh, you're defending
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him. No, I'm not. I'm just, is this the appropriate way to deal with it? And maybe it is,
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but we should be hoping to discussion on it. And right now that discussion's a little heated.
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So Nigel, I, um, I hold several mutually exclusive and contradictory opinions at the same time on
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this. Um, you know, Trump, okay. If this was Bush or Obama, if this was anyone going back to Woodrow
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Wilson, they would say this intervention is about making the world safe for democracy or some high
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falutin idea. And it's not, it's raw politics and power, uh, for, for one thing or another,
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it's, it's serving some kind of agenda and they would always try to cloak it in flowery language
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of a liberal democracy. And, you know, America's pretty cynical about that now, very rightfully.
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So I think Iraq was kind of finally finished that off. We're not, that's where it'd be.
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If America first is supposed to be about pragmatic, you know, it's, it's the tractors say, well,
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they're isolationists. No, there's a big difference between isolationists, which is we pretend that the
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oceans, the world stops at the oceans, the coasts, and the world doesn't exist. And that pretty much
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doesn't exist in America. It almost never really has. America first is America shouldn't be embroiled
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and fighting other people's wars and playing world policemen, but American power can be used for
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American interests. And Trump, he did not say, yeah, we did this for tomorrow. He's like, yeah,
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we're going to take their oil. We're going to, we're, we're, we run Venezuela now and we're,
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we're going to take back the oil. Uh, no, actually you have to, and he does have a minor point on that,
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not a minor point. Yes. At some point, Hugo Chavez had nationalized American oil assets,
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which is stealing. So America actually does have a claim to some of that oil. They stole it. Um,
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anyway, it was very cold, uh, transactional language, taking the oil. And then, you know,
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other, other, other members of the administration tried to walk it back and, and, and, and soften it.
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But, um, I don't know, is this, is this like Roosevelt on steroids that America is now going to,
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in a very muscular way, exercise its dominance of the hemisphere? All right. Absolutely.
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Uh, when you were talking about American, the world policeman, I thought, well, no, no, no,
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this has got nothing to do with being the world police. This is looking after things on the home
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front. Don't forget, it's not just the oil, although that's what we're focused on in the
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morning. It's also the drugs. It's also excluding from the Chinese. Drugs were a bit, but it wasn't
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mostly the drugs. That's what they got. That's what they're charging. But it wasn't. I disagree with you
00:22:44.100
on that. Okay. Okay. But then they would have been in Mexico first, or Columbia first,
00:22:47.460
Venezuela is a part of it, but they're not the failure. They're next. That's all. That's some
00:22:51.940
of the discussion. Yeah. You know, I'll believe it's about drugs when they go in and start murdering.
00:22:57.220
Well, I don't know. Has the price of an eight ball gone up yet?
00:22:59.220
Ready? Nothing. I didn't hear. What? He's asking if the price of Coke has gone up yet.
00:23:04.100
Uh, I imagine, uh, right. Price of oil comes down, price of Coke goes up. Well, the issue for us,
00:23:10.180
of course here in Alberta is what is this going to do? We've got what, uh, 50 million barrels of oil
00:23:17.780
going to be leaving Venezuela, ending up in the coast refineries. Uh, that's actually where
00:23:23.540
Alberta low goes. So Alberta low is going to be at a bit of a discount. Uh, not that this is the
00:23:30.340
subject of this segment, but if you want to feel mad with anybody again, feel mad with Mr. Trudeau,
00:23:36.820
who canceled arbitrarily, talk about arbitrary, we should already, Northern gateway should be
00:23:42.500
right there. And we should be pumping oil through that to new customers. Cause it's going to be
00:23:46.340
difficult when you have got a steady stream of oil coming from Venezuela. Thankfully,
00:23:50.900
the Venezuelans have been such economic illiterates for so long that it's some of the estimates I've
00:23:57.620
seen, it would take about a trillion dollars and a decade to get Venezuela's production.
00:24:02.580
Yeah. Their field's a mess to our levels. So thank God for communism. It's the only thing saving
00:24:08.980
Alberta right now. I mean, what, uh, just what next? I mean, that's just kind of the thing kicking
00:24:13.860
off the air. There's Trump being Trump though. Oh, we'll, we'll get into it. Yeah. So what I mean?
00:24:17.620
We'll get into it. There's a helicopter thing that just that I remember when, uh, when Trump said,
00:24:21.940
we don't need your oil. That's going into Tuzma negotiations. Oh yeah. He's, he's going to say,
00:24:28.180
Hey, but it don't need your oil. I got it from Venezuela. Get it, getting a little back.
00:24:32.980
It's going to take them some time now to possible ethics of this though. And the fact that he did
00:24:36.580
bring him back, he brought him alive. He's putting him on trial and going through a pair of process.
00:24:41.380
I mean, we go back to kind of the last time the Americans did something similar when they got
00:24:45.060
Osama bin Laden. And here's where the only time when I really throw my tin hat on, because I still
00:24:51.460
don't believe that they killed him there. It was this weird that, oh, we shot him and we just whipped
00:24:55.700
him off and dumped him into the ocean because we didn't need any other evidence and everything
00:24:58.260
else. Everybody else forget about it. We'll just move on with life. I got a strong, it's a little
00:25:01.620
weird. I got a strong suspicion that perhaps he went somewhere for a very uncomfortable month or two,
00:25:06.020
just to make sure they could get every other bit of information on Al Qaeda out of him before he did
00:25:10.740
eventually disappear in the ocean. The Americans aren't above and beyond that, perhaps, or CIA or
00:25:16.820
Mossad or the side, but other countries that do those sorts of things. They took some fingernails before
00:25:19.940
the drug. Yeah, either. I can't be wrong. That's certainly, but it just, it was odd. They didn't, I think they did
00:25:25.540
kill bin Laden, but did they get him right then? Who knows? Yeah, but there was no effort to, this
00:25:30.820
wasn't an assassination attempt. They didn't just take a drone and blow up his bedroom or he didn't
00:25:35.780
fall out of a helicopter or, you know, choke on a green bean on his first day in prison or anything
00:25:41.620
of the sort. So I think they are still trying to frame themselves a little bit of saying this is a
00:25:46.100
police action versus a power play. It is an act of war. I mean, snatching the head of state,
00:25:52.020
that's an illegitimate one who obviously rigged all, you know, several elections. He's illegitimate,
00:25:57.460
but he is the head of state according to their law, because they have obviously their judicial
00:26:02.260
system is corrupt, but that judicial system recognizes him as the president. That doesn't
00:26:05.860
mean he's legitimate, but it means he's legal. And those are different things. I think we've got a
00:26:11.140
legal government that is illegitimate, but, um, you know, he is the head of, he is the head of state
00:26:18.580
and snatching him is an act of war. America committed an act of war. Question is, is it
00:26:24.580
justifiable? They're not doing it on the grounds of democracy. I think the byproduct, I mean, still
00:26:30.980
way too early to say, we don't know how it's going to develop in Venezuela. Are they going to have a new,
00:26:35.780
you know, some legitimate elections at some point that are overseen by international observers?
00:26:41.780
Very possibly, but we don't know. Uh, I imagine probably wants to get there at some point, but, um,
00:26:49.940
uh, that's a, he's seen that as a byproduct and, and he's, and he's not doing the Bush and Obama
00:26:57.860
and Clinton thing where he's just like, we're doing this for democracy and blah, blah, blah, blah. We're
00:27:01.540
doing it for them. Say, no, we're doing it for us. And at least that is. And it's offering a chilling
00:27:08.260
effect to other countries that are obstinate or, or dictators as well. This didn't go like they have
00:27:13.460
pigs or even the Iran attempt to rescue hostages. This went without a hitch. I mean, it's quite a
00:27:17.860
gamble. If their special forces had landed in there and they'd been pushed back and lost a few members
00:27:23.300
and it could have turned into a catastrophe. Obviously their intelligence was amazing.
00:27:30.420
Uh, so you know that every dictator right now is looking around their room.
00:27:34.580
I'm not sure it's just dictators. Greenland and Denmark. We're going to get there, but
00:27:39.940
So, I mean, uh, it's making them sweat though. I mean, where else is the next CIA agent?
00:27:45.620
They're going for Trudeau at Cary Perry's, uh, Cary Perry's apartment.
00:27:48.500
God, I think they've got him on a leash already with that.
00:27:50.980
They're just keeping occupied with a pop star. I won't have to worry about him anymore.
00:27:54.180
I don't know. There's a, there's a lot going on here. Then the bigger picture, I, we didn't stay
00:28:04.980
there, but keeping the Chinese out of Central America is a very big thing for Trump. Uh, yeah,
00:28:11.700
the oil is a big thing. The drugs are a big thing, but you may remember two years ago, there was quite
00:28:17.380
a foofer that, uh, the, the Chinese that gained effective control of the Panama canal. Uh, they,
00:28:24.580
they had their people running it at each end and obviously everything that went through, went through
00:28:28.740
with the, with the, uh, blessing of the government of China. That's not a plate. That's not a situation
00:28:35.060
that the Americans can tolerate. Yeah. And so here is another situation that that production was going
00:28:42.900
straight to China. So now they're scrambling to find another 400,000 barrels a day of oil from the
00:28:48.580
world market. Uh, they've got a problem and they know they're not going to be able to do what they
00:28:54.740
want to do in, in the central, in Central America. So yeah, you know, it's an act of war. That's what
00:29:02.580
nation states do. Unfortunately, if they were powerful enough, if they're not powerful enough,
00:29:07.780
then they form a league of nations or a United nations organization and try to moralize about it.
00:29:13.860
But in the end, the international court, if you want to take it that far, can only enforce a
00:29:19.300
judgment if it has the backing of the largest nation makes right. I mean, I mean, 10, this is
00:29:24.660
about international justice or years of liberal international moralizing about this act. Then we
00:29:30.980
go back to the end of the first world war and the link of the nations at the end of the day,
00:29:34.420
it's all bullshit. I mean, it's nice. I mean, the world is nicer when we go by that, but
00:29:41.380
we don't ever actually go by it. We just kind of pretend to, and maybe it does give us more norms to
00:29:46.580
go with some guardrails, but end of the day, it's all bullshit. The world courts and all that too. It's
00:29:51.860
funny. Some of the people decrying though, what Trump did with Maduro are the same ones who were
00:29:56.020
saying that Netanyahu should be arrested if he steps foot outside of Israel. Actually, with what I saw
00:30:01.380
he's doing with the Christians in Israel, I'm actually kind of coming around to that. I've
00:30:05.220
seen it with Tony, but he's doing to Christians there. I'm coming around to that now. Either way,
00:30:10.580
the ability to take a leader into custody for another state is the question.
00:30:17.140
Well, that is a whole other thing. That's like going to Israel and stashing up Netanyahu.
00:30:20.260
Oh yeah. That's an act. Good luck on that. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck.
00:30:25.300
You know, could it get to the Mediterranean before they stop in the, yeah. Um,
00:30:30.820
okay. So we can take the, we'll take this a bit more broadly, zoom out, you know, America,
00:30:36.340
team America here. Um, some of this stuff, like I, you know, we, we talked about Iran,
00:30:43.460
Iran, you know, when Iran happened back in, uh, it was in October. So I, I, I was not for that one
00:30:50.420
because I don't think that was America's interest. There was no evidence, still no evidence really
00:30:54.580
provided. Um, nothing solid, at least 600 feet deep. Yeah. But I don't trust governments with just
00:31:02.980
saying the evidence is down there somewhere and you're going to trust me. They said that in the
00:31:05.700
Gulf War too, didn't they? Yeah. Uh, I, I've just not taken anyone's word for it anymore. Uh,
00:31:10.420
we've, we've, we've just seen that abused enough, but I don't think that was in America's interest.
00:31:15.060
That was other interests. Venezuela is America's interest. Now, is it the right thing to do?
00:31:21.940
Is it nice? No, it's not. But is it the right thing to do from an America, America first national
00:31:28.500
self-interest perspective? I mean, time will tell, but very possibly, but this is now being applied
00:31:34.900
very aggressively elsewhere. You've got, you know, we're talking about Panama, uh,
00:31:40.420
America built the damn thing. There's a pretty strong argument for it. Actually, Panama exists
00:31:43.620
as a country because of America. They formatted world.
00:31:45.380
And then I'm going to show you the book. I'll, uh, he grabbed Noriega. So that's it.
00:31:50.180
Iron Maiden had a hand in that as well. If I recall, give a credit where it's due. Well,
00:31:54.180
they were blasting Iron Maiden outside when they were, uh,
00:31:56.820
already got it. Yeah. That's pretty America. That's, that's America. Uh, but then, you know,
00:32:02.420
but then, uh, it's, you know, we were saying earlier, it's not just dictators got friendly.
00:32:06.820
Like, can you think of a more, but benevolent country in the world, the Denmark, at least,
00:32:12.340
at least for the last thousand years, Denmark, Canada, Sweden, they just don't stir the world.
00:32:18.660
They're in the Canadian club of these benevolent, don't bother nice guys. Yeah. Yeah. Like
00:32:23.860
the super nice guys. Now, uh, the last time Denmark was at war, they actually have the record
00:32:30.020
to this day for being the shortest, but when they were attacked by Germany, the second world war,
00:32:34.900
I think it was literally a matter of hours. They literally just dropped paratroopers on
00:32:38.340
the presidential palace and the war was over. I think it was the shortest invasion in world
00:32:42.500
history. Uh, and I imagine an American invasion of Greenland would go similar. Uh, it would be,
00:32:49.140
it would be an unopposed. Like there is no point in fighting, um, you know, American carrier rolls
00:32:55.060
off the coast of Greenland. I'm sorry guys, it's over. Uh, it'd be like if they came for us. Uh,
00:33:01.060
but this is their NATO partner. If America took an aggressive military action against
00:33:06.100
Greenland, technically that's an act of war against NATO. Yeah, that's a different line
00:33:11.780
crossed. But Ukraine attacked NATO when they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. So
00:33:17.300
technically we should be at war with Ukraine for that. Um, but I, I read, uh, send them Christy
00:33:21.620
or Freelance. I mean, it's opened up so much discussion and then part of it is everybody's
00:33:26.020
got to speculate what, what is the big plan in the orange man's head. And it's hard to try and guess
00:33:30.420
what he's really looking at. As you said, I mean, somebody wrote a good piece, actually,
00:33:33.940
I think it might've been the globe. I do read that, but, uh, on, well, if he went into Greenland,
00:33:39.540
it might be the end of NATO. And if it's the end of NATO, then we got some other bigger issues going
00:33:44.100
on throughout the rest of Europe. Uh, there's a lot of, you know, ripple effects that comes from these
00:33:50.420
actions. You may be right about that, but I personally do not think that the object is to make
00:33:56.180
Greenland the 54th state or the 52nd or the 53rd. What are they going to do with a, where the
00:34:04.340
the continent is covered by ice? It actually, it's pretty small. It only looks big because
00:34:09.380
it's actually quite small. It's easy, right? It's a, it's a lot of real estate covered by ice.
00:34:13.540
You can't do anything with it except on a few little coastline clouds. So the deal is going to be,
00:34:18.820
we need this and we need that. There's where we're going to put our bases.
00:34:22.260
Uh, but they already have the bases there. There's been an American military presence
00:34:26.340
there. So you're in the middle of the second world war. Uh, well, now they want more.
00:34:31.140
Yes. And, and, and news and, uh, Denmark and Greenland have said they can have it.
00:34:35.220
Yeah, but there's a lot of military secrets. If you're paying the lease, hell, you can have it.
00:34:38.660
They haven't invited them to do it. What I think this is, is Trump has got a big board of a big
00:34:45.300
risk board sitting somewhere in the Oval Office and he wants to paint more stars and stripes.
00:34:50.660
America looks bigger, cooler, more badass. He wants to leave legacy as he's been in America.
00:34:56.900
Shaving your bushes to make the tree look. There's an insecurity going on.
00:35:00.500
This is, and I don't even mean these words pejoratively, but this is about demonstrating
00:35:05.220
American expansion, manifest destiny over the hemisphere, um, making America look cooler.
00:35:11.940
America is growing occasionally. It's not a risk. I think that's what he's doing there. Uh, I like
00:35:18.100
playing strategy games and I like to paint the map of whatever country I'm playing here. You know,
00:35:24.180
the map looks bigger for me. I've taken it over. And I think that's what he's doing because America
00:35:29.460
can put all of the military installations and hardware and personnel that it wants in Greenland.
00:35:34.260
They have since like 1942. There's no restriction on what America can do there really.
00:35:41.380
He doesn't need to own it to do that. I think it's just because it's cool.
00:35:46.900
Well, it is cool. It is cool. I'm sorry. It's playing on words there.
00:35:52.340
The thing is that he is sending the message every time he does something extreme. Don't mess with me.
00:35:58.900
I will bomb your underground nuclear factory. Don't mess with me. I will have you out of your
00:36:04.980
cottage and into a New York pen and we will take your oil. Uh, you know, everything he does is
00:36:12.580
calculated to build the reputation of don't mess with me. That is actually a very safe thing to do
00:36:19.140
because the one thing where wars really start, I'm talking about the serious ones, is when people
00:36:25.940
can't quite sure what the other side is going to do. The first world war is a classic example of that.
00:36:31.300
The second world war, you could make the same argument. It would just take longer to do it.
00:36:35.940
If he says to China, stay out of Taiwan, the Chinese are not going to invade while he is president.
00:36:41.380
And all of these things contribute to that image of irresistible force not to be trifled with.
00:36:48.340
It might be that, but actually the Taiwan example, I think might, might be backwards.
00:36:55.220
Trump, I don't think there's any grand doctrine of Trump that you can really,
00:37:02.900
But I think one of the general things he sees is he sees the world as
00:37:06.820
transactional, great power, multipolar politics, and America should be the greatest pole of that.
00:37:12.500
But he recognizes spheres of influence. And recognizing spheres of influence, arguably,
00:37:18.020
could have maybe stopped both world wars. Maybe. Hard to say. But the idea is, okay, Ukraine,
00:37:25.140
that's Russia's sphere of influence. Always has been. Nothing we can do about it. So we're going to
00:37:30.020
write off Ukraine, but that's Russia's sphere of influence. Taiwan, we like Taiwan, but it's China's
00:37:39.220
But then he just wasn't intercepted two tankers that were bound for Russia, weren't they?
00:37:44.660
Yeah. I was saying he's a rest of his actions here.
00:37:47.780
He's posturing onto the other side of the Eastern Europe line too.
00:37:49.940
Sure, but he's saying, no, no, no. Russia, you can do what you want in Ukraine.
00:37:54.340
Maybe he's saying tacitly that China can do what it wants at the time. Maybe I'm reading too much of
00:38:00.260
that one. But he's saying the Western hemisphere, no one gets to play here. This is Monroe
00:38:04.980
doctrine on steroids. Venezuela, you're not being a proxy for Russia and for China anymore.
00:38:12.500
You work for Daddy Trump. That's what's going on here.
00:38:15.380
Well, it's got a lot of panel on all of this. Some Western hemisphere and America's the boss.
00:38:20.900
And as a result, the other big powers, you get to do what you want in your backyards.
00:38:25.380
I think broadly, I would agree that he has a view of spheres of influence. But the Chinese are so
00:38:31.380
obviously making the whole world their sphere of influence, but especially around the United
00:38:36.180
States, this is what concerns him. But yeah, there is a strong element of pushback. And Taiwan,
00:38:41.220
of course, is the point at which the Chinese could challenge him. And I think if he says no,
00:38:48.420
stay out of it, they'll wait until the next Democrat.
00:38:51.380
I don't know. Well, you may be right. But I don't think he sees Taiwan as America's
00:39:01.300
national vital interest. Is it worth World War Three? I don't think it is. I'm sorry for Taiwan.
00:39:06.900
I mean, it's always come to World War Three, because what he says will simply be taken.
00:39:10.740
It's not worth taking the risk. We'll wait till the next Democrat.
00:39:15.460
Chinese do like thinking long term. That's one thing to give to them. They're the opposite of
00:39:18.980
Trump. Trump is like, tomorrow morning, the whole plan could be different.
00:39:22.660
The Chinese could be thinking a generation ahead. And if they got to wait out an administration,
00:39:27.540
it's just an administration. But I just had to laugh on a similar subject with people who
00:39:32.340
were uncomfortable or worried about the states unrealistically or realistically. I don't know
00:39:35.620
if you saw the Toronto Star headline that Ford now has to watch his back. Doug Ford.
00:39:41.220
They're going to kidnap Ford. That's going to the Toronto Star.
00:39:43.380
They're going to kidnap Ford. They're going to come get done like they want them.
00:39:48.660
But this is the absurdity of Canada's legacy media. I just, you know, it should have been a
00:39:53.220
parting shot, but I already have one. So I just, and it ties into this issue. But the ludicrousness
00:39:58.020
of people's responses to this whole affair, you know, it's just another, it's just another reason to
00:40:03.620
criticize Trump. Well, so that guy couldn't even do something good. Nevermind. The, uh, Trump cultivating the,
00:40:10.580
uh, major, I'm the crazy guy. I'll, I'll do it. You know, okay. You saw the, you know, remember
00:40:15.300
little rocket man, North Korea, Kim Jong-un. Okay. I mean, he's been doing that. And I get
00:40:20.660
the strategy from that perspective, but Greenland, Denmark, it backfires there potentially because
00:40:28.740
yes, in politics, in international politics, it's important that your adversaries believe you
00:40:35.060
that I am crazy enough. I will come snatch you out of your presidential palace in the middle of
00:40:38.820
the night. Uh, I will bomb your ass. But at the same time, trust from your friends and allies
00:40:45.380
is important. People have to believe your friendship is worth something, that your alliance
00:40:49.860
means something, that your signature on this treaty means something. And, you know, essentially I, I
00:40:57.140
doubt anyone would get killed in taking Greenland. Uh, there's, I would be utterly shocked if there was
00:41:02.260
any kind of battle at all. The landing mode hit a rock or something. Yeah. Um, you know, there'll be
00:41:08.260
nothing, but you know, it could still be a nonviolent occupation, military action, that kind of thing.
00:41:16.500
Those happen. Um, how could NATO survive that? Look, I'm not shilling for Trump. I'm just saying that,
00:41:23.780
you know, this is, this is his game plan. I don't know. Like you said, they've had, um, bases there
00:41:29.940
for a long time. What's different about this one? I don't know. But, uh, maybe he's just negotiating a
00:41:34.980
lower lease rate. Or maybe he's like, maybe the message isn't for the Danes, it's for somebody else
00:41:40.980
altogether. Don't screw around with me because I'm, uh, you know, you guys in NATO can go on.
00:41:45.460
Um, I mean, NATO, yeah, so, so. Largely obsolete in many ways. It's, and, and actually, you know,
00:41:52.100
that America, that foreign policy paper that the White House put out, uh, roughly a month or so ago
00:41:57.300
does look at Europe as now an unreliable partner in the long term, that Europe is undergoing radical
00:42:04.820
demographic replacement. Europe is already almost not European anymore, and it is becoming increasingly
00:42:12.820
less so by the day. And America sees that. And okay, you're no longer our brother that we know.
00:42:20.340
We don't, we're no longer going to share common civilization very soon. NATO is, in many respects,
00:42:27.060
obsolete. And this could be by intention. This could be Trump intentionally trying to just finally
00:42:32.500
scupper NATO because it's, it's already finished. I mean, the, the lazy, you know, kind of closure on
00:42:37.780
it just is that 2026 is kicking off. The whole world picture is changing now. We're in for a
00:42:42.100
heck of a ride this year. Nothing happened over the break. Real quiet on the news front.
00:42:48.100
Okay. Gentlemen, uh, who wants first parting shot? Oh, you go for a story, huh? I just wanted to
00:42:54.260
remind everybody of all those recalls that, uh, legacy media and some professors and others were
00:42:58.900
saying, we're going to force Danielle Smith into a spring election out of terror. The most possible,
00:43:04.740
feasible one of them all was Nicholas, or I mean, uh, Nicolaides. And it was the one based on
00:43:10.580
him being the education minister and teacher strike. And it was a razor thin margin mining.
00:43:14.260
Yeah. It was very close. It was one that's conceivable, not even vaguely close to making
00:43:18.340
the signature barrier. It's going to fail and the rest will fail even more so obviously. So that was
00:43:24.260
just a bunch of show and, uh, an abuse of the system and, uh, the bar that was set in the legislation
00:43:30.580
is appropriate. I think if we did have a, an ax murderer in the legislature, then the bar would be
00:43:35.300
achieved, but this wasn't enough. Thank you for demonstrating the efficacy of the legislation,
00:43:40.180
Gil. Uh, better luck next time. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. So, you know, for my, for my two
00:43:47.540
panels, I think we were just, we're about to see now where the Kearney is serious about a pipeline to
00:43:53.540
the coast. Uh, for all this happened in Venezuela, we've talked about it for half an hour. You know,
00:43:59.140
the case for getting an, uh, an alternative export route has for Alberta oil never been more obvious.
00:44:07.220
So if something isn't on, on the rails in 12 months, we'll know without doubt that his green values
00:44:14.740
mindset is what animates him. And he's been just looking for a way to make it look like he's serious,
00:44:21.140
but also to make it go away. So I, I, I'm kind of pessimistic about that. And I have to say,
00:44:28.580
what has, you know, what does Kearney actually accomplished in 10 months? Can you think of
00:44:33.780
anything that's really, he got government free, save the liberals, save the levels. All right. Well,
00:44:38.340
thanks. Thanks very much for that. Now we've got somebody we can criticize, you know, we could have
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found something else. No, he's done nothing for, for nine months, uh, except made plans. It's like
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somebody who is very unconfident of their EA job. They spend all the time rearranging the desks. So now we've
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got a, you know, a ministry of, uh, fast track products, but we've got no products.
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So what's, there's the most disappointing tenure of office.
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I came straight here from a meeting and I actually didn't prepare mine, but I've pulled one out of my
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arse and it feeds right into what we would say about where is America going next. We've got actually a
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pool. You can't see it on the camera here, but I'm, uh, we've got kind of a glass wall over there.
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And I like to write out wagers. I make with the staff. Sometimes this one, uh, I'm just,
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I'm the house. I'm giving odds on one country. Uh, Trump will make a significant intervention
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with next defining as a significant act of war. It doesn't have to mean a war actually breaks out,
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but an act of war. So, you know, it could be major bombings. It can be
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snatching the president out of the palace or something. Uh, so I'm given, uh, one-to-one odds,
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Iran or Mexico, uh, two-to-one odds on Colombia, Cuba, and Panama, five-to-one odds on Greenland,
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uh, and 15-to-one odds on Canada. Uh, and I, and I, so don't sweat it folks.
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And I made a subcategory for Alberta, 10-to-one odds. Uh, now I'm not, that's not, uh, you know,
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I don't know how legitimate those odds are that I'm given. Uh, but the fact that I'm, you know,
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15-to-one, the fact that it's not a billion to one, the fact that it's not a billion to one,
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I would obviously not. I'm going to win the bet. I'm willing to give 15-to-one odds on Canada.
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I, I probably should give even better odds, but, you know, I'm not going to collect pennies here.
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But, uh, yeah, the fact that it's not a billion to one shows you that we're in a very interesting
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new world. All right, Cory, we are, Nigel. Thank you. And, uh, John for running the show.
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