Western Standard - The Pipeline： Ho-Ho Hamas

00:00:00.000 Good evening, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching

00:00:15.700 The Pipeline. Today is December 20th, 2023. It's almost Christmas time. I'm joined as usual by

00:00:24.440 Western Standard Opinion Editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:27.600 How are you?

00:00:28.660 I'm very well.

00:00:29.680 I'm looking forward to the shortest day of the year tomorrow

00:00:33.420 when things, the light starts coming back.

00:00:36.020 Indeed.

00:00:36.620 But the light never departed, the Western Standard.

00:00:38.940 It never does.

00:00:40.560 It's always light here.

00:00:42.160 And Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Corey.

00:00:44.520 Oh, thanks, Derek.

00:00:47.420 You had Krampus on your show today.

00:00:51.180 I did.

00:00:52.260 I did.

00:00:52.940 It was a special appearance.

00:00:54.020 something different. I mean, we're the Western standard. We're not going to have some cheesy

00:00:57.120 old Santa in here. We've got to have Krampus. Nobody has Krampus. We have the exclusive on

00:01:02.940 Krampus. He also may have crashed our annual staff Christmas party, as is tradition around here.

00:01:10.180 So who's Krampus? That's confidential. Well, no, no. What's the... Krampus himself? I mean,

00:01:16.320 Derek is better to explain the origins. Germany and South Austria, the way I define it is,

00:01:22.420 kind of a good cop, bad cop

00:01:25.180 routine of Saint Nicholas

00:01:26.700 and Krampus, and Krampus is more or less

00:01:29.060 the Christmas demon, and

00:01:31.040 they go good cop, bad cop, naughty and nice,

00:01:33.620 and Krampus, you know, 0.99

00:01:35.060 he's a mean, ugly 0.98

00:01:36.060 demon, ape-like creature, and he's got a bundle 1.00

00:01:39.000 of sticks, and he beats the children for being bad.

00:01:41.420 He also has a bag that

00:01:43.140 if they're really bad, 0.99

00:01:45.240 the children go in the bag, and he takes them to hell. 0.95

00:01:47.800 I think that's more of like

00:01:49.040 a theoretical thing. They don't actually take the children

00:01:50.920 to help, but it's just there.

00:01:52.960 They don't need to know that.

00:01:54.680 Exactly. It's there just as like,

00:01:57.540 you know, don't let me get the

00:01:58.840 belt, boy, kind of thing, you know.

00:02:01.200 So anyway, yeah, Krampus

00:02:02.420 makes a few appearances around here.

00:02:04.920 He did, and it was a troublesome

00:02:06.820 guest. He kept trying to hit me with his bloody 0.91

00:02:08.920 sticks, and

00:02:09.900 he's not one for a lot

00:02:12.980 of words, but all the same, it was

00:02:14.980 a good interview. Krampus in previous

00:02:17.060 years at our annual Christmas party, he's

00:02:18.700 he's been dancing, he's danced. He has not danced this year, though. Yeah, we've had HR department

00:02:25.720 complaints about Krampus. Well, he'll take them off to hell next night. Okay, well, today we're 0.98

00:02:35.160 going to talk about Hamas supporters coming even more into the open and now trying to disrupt

00:02:42.560 Christmas shopping, Christmas celebrations. We had Hamas supporters in the Eaton's Mall in Toronto.

00:02:49.540 It's kind of the big, that's the main mall in Toronto, I guess. Hamas supporters going through

00:02:55.620 there, trying to disrupt the Santa area and the shoppers. And so you had a bunch of terrified

00:03:00.640 little kids who are just sitting on Santa's knee, looking up at a bunch of Mahajideen 1.00

00:03:05.380 terrorist supporters, dressed very much the park. Like, it's not like they're not trying to look

00:03:10.640 like terrorist supporters. They're dressed

00:03:12.540 like terrorists. The masks, 0.75

00:03:15.600 the chicken

00:03:16.500 scarves and all. They got it all. Like, these

00:03:18.560 guys look like an ISIS recruiting video, and they're

00:03:20.620 walking right through a mall, threatening 0.99

00:03:22.460 to kill people, feet 0.86

00:03:24.420 away from the police, and the police doing nothing, 0.90

00:03:26.900 and promises from Hamas

00:03:28.580 supporters to continue disrupting Christmas.

00:03:32.120 You know

00:03:32.640 the Jews might be small enough a number that they get away 1.00

00:03:34.580 with it? Effing with Christmas

00:03:36.780 could go badly.

00:03:38.940 I don't know. We'll see.

00:03:40.640 Speaking of Hamas supporters in our streets, Scotiabank says, quote, excessive immigration is driving inflation in Canada. That's coming from their VP, head of capital markets.

00:03:57.840 So, not usual to see that coming from kind of an establishment figure, but a recognition that these incredible excessive immigration numbers, you know, you don't have to be anti-immigration here, but these are eye-watering immigration numbers that we're taking in, many of which are probably supporting Hamas now in our family, in our community malls, is driving inflation. 0.77

00:04:23.040 But Ottawa promising essentially to ban non-electric vehicles within a few years,

00:04:30.540 mandating that you can only buy electric cars.

00:04:33.580 That's going to go really well.

00:04:36.120 Do they know that, you know, we can just literally cross the border and buy cars in another country and not pay the taxes here?

00:04:42.620 I don't know if he's heard of border shopping.

00:04:44.940 But can you register them?

00:04:46.180 That'll be the thing.

00:04:47.400 Ah, registration is provincial.

00:04:49.120 They'll set up tariffs.

00:04:50.180 That's federal.

00:04:50.620 They will set up tariffs, but then you're running into NAFTA or whatever has been renamed now.

00:04:55.540 So anyway, that's fun.

00:04:59.020 It sparked, I don't know, the ten thousandths front of war between Alberta and Saskatchewan on one side

00:05:06.580 and the federal government on the other.

00:05:07.920 And speaking of which, Alberta is now promising to continue its fight against Ottawa's plastics ban.

00:05:14.000 Ottawa banning things like, I don't know, real straws and grocery bags, even compostable grocery bags, if they seem too convenient.

00:05:26.060 Ottawa having lost in court, but it's promising to appeal that, to reinstitute and reimpose the ban on nice things.

00:05:35.880 And Alberta promising to continue its fight in court against it.

00:05:38.720 Before we get into it, though, just a quick note of one of my favorite sponsors, Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

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00:06:40.220 I love Dave Naylor, our news editor, named our first segment here. We have a few ideas,

00:06:45.700 but Dave named it Ho Ho Hamas. So we've had Hamas supporters in the streets since 1.00

00:06:53.020 the attack on Israel. Was it October 7th or so? October 7th. October 7th, you know,

00:07:01.420 massacring civilians, including women and children.

00:07:05.380 We've had Hamas supporters in the streets all over

00:07:08.700 Western cities, but in Canada in particular,

00:07:12.360 operating with impunity and holding rallies, 0.98

00:07:15.840 calling for genocide, murder of the Jewish people, 0.60

00:07:19.660 erasure of the Israeli state, but it's escalated. 0.97

00:07:23.820 They know that they're getting away with more and more

00:07:25.800 and they're getting bolder and bolder.

00:07:27.660 Now they're targeting Christmas.

00:07:31.020 I mean, I can't think of a dumber PR move to take for a movement.

00:07:35.560 Going after Christmas is just kind of, it's almost too easy to make fun of Grinch and all that stuff.

00:07:42.120 But now the latest one was significant disruption at the Eaton's Mall in Toronto.

00:07:51.320 I'm telling you, because you're going to touch it, I'm putting it on the phone.

00:07:54.960 You come near me, I'll put you lay down on the phone.

00:07:57.560 I'll lay you to sleep. I'll put you six feet deep. 0.98

00:07:59.680 I'll put you six feet deep.

00:08:07.680 You just told the cop they'll put in six feet up?

00:08:09.680 Yeah.

00:08:10.680 Let us hope we want to talk people to Palestine.

00:08:12.680 And we're going to be on their way to the front. 0.99

00:08:17.680 He's not trying to shit. He's a pussy girl. 1.00

00:08:20.680 Leave him. 1.00

00:08:21.680 Leave him. 0.78

00:08:23.680 I'll get you.

00:08:25.680 I'll get you.

00:08:27.680 Oh

00:08:57.680 Oh

00:09:27.680 All right, guys, guys, guys, enough.

00:09:49.940 He's beating, he's beating, he's beating, enough, enough.

00:09:58.940 There we go.

00:10:00.940 It's just chaos, man.

00:10:10.940 Short.

00:10:19.940 All right, so you can see there a guy doing his best impression, his best kind of cosplay Osama bin Laden, threatening to kill people feet away from police officers. 0.65

00:10:46.580 You can see police officers in this video and they're just standing there. Now, I've heard some explanations while they're trying to de-escalate. So I can perhaps see not arresting him on the spot immediately right there because his fellow Hamas supporters could very easily turn violent. 0.94

00:11:01.900 These are obviously violent people. They're advocating for violence. They're threatening violence. So I don't know. There's some police judgment to take place, although advocating violence exactly right there on the spot in front of police normally would warrant a police response at that exact moment.

00:11:21.940 Although, if I was the cop side, maybe let him talk. Let him finish saying what he's saying to gather the evidence and then arrest.

00:11:29.420 But they didn't wait till he was done for the evidence to be accumulated.

00:11:34.520 They didn't wait just till the protest was done to not spark it, turning explicitly violent, not just calling for violence and genocide there.

00:11:41.820 They just didn't place charges, period.

00:11:45.100 Their excuse was that it was not against the police, it was against an individual.

00:11:48.940 the individual just didn't want charges and create a fuss but that's not the way charges

00:11:53.500 work in Canada the police do not need your permission to place charges they might listen

00:11:58.700 to you a bit but if it's clear and you someone's committed a crime uh like if someone chopped my

00:12:03.580 left arm off and I said I don't want to press charges the police are still going to press

00:12:07.180 charges for chopping my left arm off they didn't do anything so maybe we'll start with the police

00:12:13.900 response, Nigel, what do you think can justify the police doing absolutely nothing to open

00:12:21.760 terrorism supporters and genocide supporters threatening violence right in front of them

00:12:27.680 with clear evidence and doing absolutely nothing? I think it's terrible. I mean, to your point about

00:12:33.280 it's a dumb public relations move for Hamas supporters to go after Christmas, they just did 0.95

00:12:40.580 and they just got away with it and the message that that takes is hey what does it take come on 0.85

00:12:46.660 boys let's go and do it somewhere else there was video there you'll probably pick it out at a

00:12:52.120 minute you hear the the man threatening a police officer to say i'll put you six feet under

00:12:56.640 like there is i understand that they don't want a fight they don't want an insurrection they don't

00:13:06.960 want an armed rebellion that they have to put down in the middle of a shopping mall i do get that

00:13:12.400 but what exactly if you're not going to say no to that what are you going to say no to

00:13:17.160 and the answer is we don't know yet because nobody has yet said no to this kind of behavior

00:13:24.120 i think it's absolutely asking for more trouble i understand that the i think the word went out

00:13:29.960 well let's let's hit the shopping on december the 23rd yes we'll see what happens on the 23rd but

00:13:35.040 But if there are outrageous scenes, it's going to be because they didn't stop it at this particular incident here.

00:13:43.680 The word needs to go out.

00:13:44.620 You know, Corey, we haven't seen vigilante responses to anything yet.

00:13:51.360 But when the police do nothing in the face of this, it both justifies and incentivizes vigilante responses.

00:14:01.240 You know, I'll consider you that that's going to be the inevitable result here. If the police do absolutely nothing, that Jewish people or people who simply are opposed to genocide of the Jewish people and who are opposed to Hamas and other radical Islamist organizations like this, that they're just simply going, OK, these guys say they're going to crash malls again on the 23rd, that they're going to see a bunch of people show up and take matters into their own hands if the police do nothing.

00:14:28.780 There's a very high risk of that. And, you know, when you see more and more disorder, you see less separating it and people becoming more and more offended, more and more concerned, there is a high potential for somebody saying, well, that's it, I'm going to get up and deal with this myself, which will be far worse than having the police involved.

00:14:47.440 I mean, there's a much lesser chance of some self-control or properly even, you know, vigilanteism, I mean, has its appeal in some senses, but they can often target the wrong people.

00:14:56.760 It's not a good development.

00:14:59.280 We have to lay down the law with these extremists.

00:15:03.660 Hamas isn't pretending to be nice. 0.78

00:15:05.980 They're going out of their way to show that they are violent, evil, and murderous, and their supporters are doing so as well.

00:15:11.400 And it's like they keep upping the game, and it's the Western world that denies it.

00:15:14.620 You know, they attacked a music festival, and there were people saying, oh, they wouldn't have done that.

00:15:18.980 They gave you the video of it.

00:15:21.520 They broadcasted it live.

00:15:22.740 They didn't rape people. 1.00

00:15:24.000 They gave you video of them raping people. 1.00

00:15:27.480 Well, they're not calling for the death of all the Jews. 0.99

00:15:29.680 It's in their mandate. 0.57

00:15:32.340 Like, quit denying this.

00:15:33.740 And their supporters are doing the same.

00:15:35.440 They're getting on the streets, and they're saying, we're here.

00:15:38.020 We're going to put you six feet under.

00:15:39.640 We're going to shut down your businesses.

00:15:41.120 We're going to assail your local traditions.

00:15:42.940 they're just going to keep moving forward and forward until somebody says stop and it's going

00:15:48.500 to be a heck of a lot better if it's the authorities that draw the line in the sand rather than some

00:15:54.400 upset citizens who get in there and then we could have a riot happening in a shopping mall and

00:15:59.040 nobody's going to win with that. The problem here, Corey, is that the politicians who should be

00:16:03.080 dealing with it are afraid to because they feel that they will be branded as racist or that they

00:16:08.320 will lose that ethnic vote. So they shut up and are silent when they should be. It's utter cowardice. 0.94

00:16:14.580 Where are the police here? Like the police are, there's some political directive and things from

00:16:21.360 mayors and whatnot. And some of it is just their own, you know, they're operating independently

00:16:25.860 on operationally on the ground. It's a combination of things. And the accountability can get pretty

00:16:30.980 fuzzy, but they're just allowing this. And it's not just Toronto. We shouldn't just pick on the

00:16:37.400 Toronto police. It's everywhere that we've seen this across most of the Western world.

00:16:41.860 Strangely enough, I think the only place I've seen police have zero tolerance and just

00:16:46.020 arrest, sometimes with significant force if necessary, people calling for genocide against

00:16:52.340 Jewish people in these protests is in Germany, where there's just a very longstanding law that

00:16:56.140 you're not allowed to call for genocide of the Jews. When those laws are written, they probably 0.99

00:17:01.280 didn't think it would be used against migrants, but that is what it is. So that's the only place 1.00

00:17:05.620 you're seeing hardcore crackdowns on it outside of Israel, I suppose. But we're just seeing

00:17:11.140 almost no police crackdown against this kind of thing. When I have a feeling that like,

00:17:16.340 if it was a bunch of white guys with shaved heads, going around saying the exact same things, 0.66

00:17:22.100 I think we'd be rightfully seeing some cracked skulls. We'd be seeing a hard police crackdown, 0.91

00:17:26.980 but they're not doing it here for some reason.

00:17:28.960 No, and it's a dangerous intimidation. I mean, you think of the rights of the others. They always

00:17:32.720 to overlook the rights of the others what about the business owners in the mall what about the

00:17:36.480 families that just wanted to go shopping and people saying well they didn't attack anybody come on

00:17:40.320 that is intimidating you are not comfortable you do not feel safe when you have a bunch of masked 1.00

00:17:45.840 people screaming death threats walking around you this isn't a civilized country when you can allow

00:17:50.880 that sort of thing to happen same sort of thing outside of a indigo where they laid out a bunch

00:17:54.800 of fake body bags in front of the door and and were screaming and chanting outside because the

00:17:59.360 Because the company has some Jewish ownership.

00:18:00.640 Yeah, and I saw some people defending it, the Canadian progressives, saying,

00:18:03.980 well, people could still go in and out of a store.

00:18:06.740 Your average person isn't going to walk that gauntlet to go into a business,

00:18:10.400 and they know bloody well that they won't.

00:18:13.000 But again, I think, Nigel, the analogy is like the kid.

00:18:15.960 They're always putting the, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you,

00:18:18.080 and they're going to see how far they can get until you finally wind up and crack it.

00:18:21.000 Well, they are touching it now.

00:18:21.780 They're threatening murder in front of police and police doing nothing.

00:18:27.760 I think it was supposed to be yesterday or the day before.

00:18:30.960 Hamas supporters were saying they were going to hold marches through the plus 15s in Calgary.

00:18:36.060 For those of you not in Calgary, the plus 15s are kind of the, think of it as an above ground tunnel network.

00:18:41.880 And it's easy to kind of get around the business district of downtown Calgary.

00:18:46.120 It's kind of funny because it wasn't very cold.

00:18:47.840 I don't know why you'd hold it in the plus 15s unless it's very cold.

00:18:51.480 People are actually on the streets, but they're promising to hold it.

00:18:53.860 We sent some reporters around the plus 15s.

00:18:55.960 we actually didn't see this happening. It seemed to just

00:19:01.780 think these groups are getting smaller, which I think is why

00:19:04.360 they're getting a little more extreme to though, right? We're

00:19:06.160 not seeing the perhaps a broader rational group anymore. But

00:19:10.780 you're seeing the core, the the real nutty ones that and that's

00:19:14.620 part of why we're seeing escalating things as well,

00:19:16.240 because they're in smaller numbers. I think they wanted to

00:19:17.980 hit the plus 15. But when only 30 people, you know, RSVP, they

00:19:21.560 said, Oh, well, we're not gonna I think they also feel they

00:19:24.460 need probably bigger numbers for the plus 15s because who's in the plus 15s? It tends to be

00:19:29.820 fairly kind of right-wing, conservative Calgary business folk. And if there's only 30 of them,

00:19:35.580 they don't have the numbers to be able to sufficiently intimidate. So if it's only like

00:19:39.080 30 Hamas supporters walking around, they're not going to be able to throw their weight around 0.99

00:19:43.720 and threaten violence without getting a little bit of it back themselves, I think. So they're

00:19:47.780 going to need bigger numbers than that to be able to pull off a plus 15 protest in downtown Calgary.

00:19:51.600 If they do, I propose closing the doors and filling them with water so they can get a taste of home from the river to the sea.

00:19:56.820 That's right. All right.

00:20:00.520 Well, I mean, it's semi related.

00:20:04.880 So Derek Holt, he is vice president, head of capital markets at Scotiabank, saying something that you don't expect to hear from a Scotiabank VP type.

00:20:17.280 Here's just a bit of what he said.

00:20:18.320 It says, immigration is excessive, full stop. Canada just added about 431,000 people in Q3 alone here. That's like, presto, here's a new city of London, Ontario, created in one quarter, or almost a new city of Hamilton, a 1.1%, quarter over quarter, non-annualized increase in population of one quarter.

00:20:41.360 StatsCan noted that even just in the first nine months of this year exceeded population growth for any other year since Confederation in 1867.

00:20:52.360 It goes on from there.

00:20:56.360 So, I mean, you don't have to be a shut the borders, build a wall, anti-immigration type to think that 400,000 people a quarter is maybe a bit excessive for a country, Canada's size and population, particularly when Canada is facing a massive housing shortage when we still have areas of significant unemployment in the country.

00:21:21.360 This is entirely a way outside of the cultural or religious arguments and some groups probably assimilate a bit easier than others. I'd argue that Hamas lovers are not going to be an easy integration into Canada. 0.97

00:21:35.960 But we'll start with you, Corey, about, you know, do you think something like, so Holt here is not, you know, he's not Bob from Red Deer who, you know, people expect have a problem with immigration.

00:21:51.340 This is a Laurentian senior banker.

00:21:55.600 Do you think this is going to have any impact on Ottawa's policies at all?

00:21:59.000 I hope so. Like if it's the beginning of some, you know, respectable people in high positions coming out and saying the emperor has no clothes, saying the numbers that other people and pundits have been saying now for quite some time, just that these numbers right now are unsustainable.

00:22:14.280 We can't manage this. We don't have enough houses. We don't have enough health care facilities. We don't have the ability to do that.

00:22:19.860 So it might embolden others in his sort of position in the business community, maybe the political community, to be able to come out and say what I think everybody's already been thinking, that we just can't do this.

00:22:31.060 The problem is bringing in these immigrants is pumping up our GDP, and it's keeping us from going into a technical recession. 1.00

00:22:40.140 That's why the Liberals are doing it.

00:22:41.820 But the reality is the GDP per capita is sliding into the toilet.

00:22:45.760 And, you know, people with any economic knowledge, such as the gentleman from Scotia, know this and understand this.

00:22:52.520 And I don't see too many more standing by and allowing the federal government to basically crater Canada's economy just to try and avoid a recession that might be politically unpopular.

00:23:03.500 I think there's also an element of these, I think there's an expectation within the Trudeau liberals that these are people who are going to vote for them.

00:23:12.420 Now, strictly speaking, they can't vote until they've been here three years.

00:23:16.820 Well, it's an assembly line of voters.

00:23:18.560 It's an assembly line of voters who are going to be sympathetically disposed.

00:23:22.620 This whole thing is so counter other elements of federal policy.

00:23:28.200 For example, you're trying to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

00:23:32.340 Well, guess what?

00:23:33.260 You've just brought in an increase.

00:23:36.500 I gather it's been a million people this year, so that's like 2.5% of the population.

00:23:41.260 And you are now asking everybody else to dampen their carbon emissions so that you can keep...

00:23:49.840 1.25 million.

00:23:51.160 1.25 million.

00:23:52.860 So it's an even larger percentage.

00:23:56.320 So there we go.

00:23:59.300 It doesn't work.

00:24:01.060 If you want to bring down carbon emissions, packing people in is not going to work.

00:24:05.620 Well, the idea of reducing carbon emissions is we have to make people poorer because poor people emit less carbon.

00:24:10.880 So we need, therefore, we should keep them in poor countries and keeping these people poor. 1.00

00:24:14.700 But that should be the argument then, right?

00:24:17.100 Yeah, I'll let you make that one.

00:24:18.460 But I mean, as far as bringing people into Canada, it just goes against what they're over here. 1.00

00:24:23.960 They're bringing the people in.

00:24:24.960 Over there, they're trying to lower carbonations.

00:24:28.620 Well, those two don't go together.

00:24:30.000 And meanwhile, you're creating a massive housing shortage.

00:24:34.920 And mark my words, the day will come when people will look at your house and say,

00:24:38.800 well, you know, you've got spare rooms. Why aren't you opening up your spare rooms to take these

00:24:43.400 unhoused people who we keep bringing in? And when you've filled your spare rooms,

00:24:48.580 we've got more people we can bring in. I mean, that hasn't happened yet. But that's the kind of

00:24:55.280 liberal blame people who have something if they feel it's in their interest to do so.

00:25:02.320 The government used to call it billeting. And it was one of the triggers of the American 0.98

00:25:05.500 revolution certainly was and during the uh the years of the soviet revolution in the early 1920s

00:25:11.740 ayn rand talks about this in her book we the living how people actually were basically

00:25:17.100 dispossessed of their homes in order that they could pack people in so i mean it's happened

00:25:22.940 before it may not happen in this case but uh you can see how the the mind might be working back in

00:25:28.540 in Ottawa.

00:25:30.560 Yeah, and it's a driver of inflation,

00:25:33.700 particularly around housing.

00:25:34.900 Housing is one of the biggest drivers of,

00:25:37.780 and again, maybe I kind of,

00:25:39.260 I quibble a bit with the language here.

00:25:41.480 That's not inflation, that's cost of living.

00:25:43.200 And they're closely associated,

00:25:45.040 but inflation is devaluation of the currency, of money,

00:25:50.100 not necessarily how far your dollar goes.

00:25:52.000 And those things are closely related.

00:25:53.480 The taxpayer association guy comes out every time.

00:25:55.620 I quibble with it a bit.

00:25:56.700 It's like, you know, an increase in taxes is not an increase in inflation.

00:26:02.200 It's increasing cost of living.

00:26:04.140 Those things are closely related, but they're not the same.

00:26:05.960 So I'm going to quibble a bit with their language, but whatever.

00:26:09.280 We'll say inflation because I guess that's what people call it.

00:26:12.340 But it's not really what it is here.

00:26:14.020 But it's driving up massively the cost of living through housing.

00:26:17.780 And I just don't know how they're supposed to square the circle with the voting public that we have this huge housing shortage.

00:26:28.060 We promise we're trying to solve it. So there's supply and then there's demand.

00:26:32.520 So we're going to moderately increase supply, but we're going to we're just going to bring in a tidal wave of new demand.

00:26:39.160 We bring people to this country. We better well have a place to put them.

00:26:42.940 And I'm fine with bringing people here.

00:26:44.880 Most, all three of us at some point, our families came here,

00:26:47.940 not even family, you're an immigrant. 1.00

00:26:51.280 So I'm fine with it.

00:26:53.400 I mean, I'm totally, I came out to the colonies

00:26:57.600 with my own free will and assist.

00:26:59.340 Now then, I'll be critical about that.

00:27:02.480 It was your colonies at the time perhaps, yeah.

00:27:07.380 But you know, you have to bring in reasonable numbers

00:27:10.700 people and you you need to make sure they can reasonably adapt and assimilate now assimilation 0.89

00:27:15.740 is a bad thing apparently in canada they're not supposed to assimilate at all but we don't even

00:27:19.980 seem to care about the numbers so we're supposed to pay lip service on the supply side for housing

00:27:25.180 but we just bring in a tsunami of people driving up demand uh and let's talk about the conservatives

00:27:31.900 here because the conservatives are so terrified talking about immigration they won't touch this

00:27:36.300 Yeah, and Polyev is bolder than previous conservative leaders on a lot of topics, but he's afraid on this one because conservatives, if they even talk reasonably and moderately about immigration, even a moderate center left, just not towing the line of the extreme open borders, unlimited immigration line, they get tart as racist and xenophobic and anti-immigration.

00:28:00.800 Is there any hope here that the Conservatives are going to be able to grow a pair here?

00:28:06.300 Because they're rightfully afraid of it.

00:28:08.020 Conservatives get tarred with it so damn easily.

00:28:10.260 Are they right to stay silent and probably do nothing about it?

00:28:14.260 Do it smart.

00:28:15.360 You know, do it as politically as you do.

00:28:17.460 And don't make Polly of the front man to talk about.

00:28:20.060 Get one of the members of Parliament.

00:28:22.300 I know it sounds crass, but it's the way it works.

00:28:24.500 Who is a new Canadian or a settled Canadian to come up and speak about it then?

00:28:28.320 So it's a little more difficult to smear it, you know, when it is somebody who has located within Canada to speak about this.

00:28:35.860 I mean, enough Canadians are speaking out.

00:28:37.420 It's as I said.

00:28:38.180 I mean, we're seeing the head, you know, VPs and banks that are starting to speak out.

00:28:41.960 If enough people, respectable people are speaking against this, the safety in numbers, I think, should allow more to speak up.

00:28:49.600 You know, in the Harper years, the rhetoric was always about new immigrants.

00:28:53.300 Why do they come to Canada?

00:28:54.540 Well, because it's a bit Reagan-esque about it.

00:28:57.560 It's a shining city on a hill.

00:28:59.580 People come here because they value the freedom.

00:29:02.880 They value the democracy.

00:29:04.580 They value the ability to go out and live their dreams, build their life.

00:29:12.940 That's the kind of people that we thought were coming in.

00:29:16.500 I think largely were coming in, and they were coming in at that time at the rate of about 200,000 a year.

00:29:22.240 Even that is a huge immigration number.

00:29:24.460 It was still record immigration at that time.

00:29:26.460 We're just twice that now.

00:29:27.880 I know we're much more than twice.

00:29:29.560 We're four times.

00:29:30.260 1.25 million, did you just say?

00:29:32.280 Yeah, we're five times that now.

00:29:33.460 So I have to wonder how many of that 1.25 million

00:29:36.740 that said, ah, Canada, I get off the plane,

00:29:39.220 I kiss the soil, here I will live out my dreams.

00:29:42.300 Oh, quite what their motivation might be.

00:29:44.520 Well, you know...

00:29:45.340 May not be what I just said.

00:29:46.700 Another challenge that's going to come from this,

00:29:49.040 and I'm surprised we haven't seen more of it yet too, though,

00:29:51.320 is with the lack of resources,

00:29:52.340 and it's unfair to the people coming here

00:29:54.100 when they find out, oh, wow, this is a cold country.

00:29:56.120 There's not good housing to find myself in.

00:29:58.280 The cost of living is high.

00:29:59.660 They're going to try and go south of the border.

00:30:01.740 And our neighbors are going to start getting crabby with us.

00:30:04.080 If, you know, they're dealing enough with people coming north from the south border, 1.00

00:30:07.960 and now they get people coming south from the north border.

00:30:10.720 We could see some bigger repercussions of this whole thing.

00:30:13.960 If they try to cross north to south, they'll just get shipped right back again.

00:30:18.520 Why?

00:30:19.380 It's a whole nother discussion when they're coming south to north.

00:30:22.860 But the problem is it's the world's largest undefended border, and we want it to stay an undefended border, open border.

00:30:32.580 That is a good open border, free flow of goods, people and services.

00:30:37.360 But if it becomes a serious security concern for the United States, it's going to become a little less free because it's easy to cross. 0.95

00:30:45.680 I crossed it once in a farmer's field outside of Coutts, I don't know, probably a decade ago, just for fun.

00:30:52.860 I just saw the Milk River, it's just a barbed wire fence.

00:30:56.380 No, there wasn't even a fence there.

00:30:57.780 It's literally a cornfield and there's like a divide of, you know,

00:31:01.160 there's like a little goat path for the U.S.-Canada border.

00:31:04.180 And I stepped over it just to be like, ha-ha, I snuck in the United States.

00:31:07.640 I stepped back over it.

00:31:08.720 It's easy.

00:31:09.980 It's easy.

00:31:10.700 We want it to stay easy.

00:31:12.500 So, okay.

00:31:14.960 Well, let's move on.

00:31:15.900 So Ottawa is very open, you know, about letting in anyone who thinks they might even vaguely want to come here, but very restrictive about products that can make your life better in some ways, like, I don't know, the ability to drink a iced cappuccino with Tim Hortons without your straw turning to mush before your eyes. 0.95

00:31:39.760 So, you know, for some time Ottawa's had, it's been on single-use plastics, including plastic straws and even compostable plastic style grocery bags, absolutely moronic stuff.

00:31:53.340 I just buy a bunch of plastic straws on Amazon and keep it in my truck.

00:31:59.260 About a week ago, I was with my daughter to Tim Hortons, and I ran out of my big plastic straws for a nice cappuccino.

00:32:05.960 And I was like, oh, crap, I have to use what they have.

00:32:07.840 So I just ask for five, ask for five straws, and as soon as it gets limp, you throw it away, you know. 0.83

00:32:15.180 I don't know how this is saving the environment.

00:32:17.380 I go through half a tree just to drink one iced cappuccino at this point.

00:32:20.960 But to my surprise, Ottawa lost in court on this one.

00:32:27.120 This, you know, is unconstitutional, ultra-virus outside of Ottawa's jurisdiction.

00:32:33.780 And the federal government's fighting it.

00:32:35.680 They've now, Environment Minister Stephen Gilbeau, to no one's surprise, announced that, no, Ottawa was going to press forward and appeal the court's decision that said that this ban was unconstitutional.

00:32:49.740 And, yeah, and Alberta saying it's going to get intervener status and go to fight it.

00:32:57.980 Where does the fight go from here, Nigel?

00:33:00.100 Well, there's a couple of things.

00:33:01.440 One is that as Premier Smith said this morning in the interview that we had, which will be up later today when it's been processed, the environment minister is 99 percent ideologue.

00:33:20.020 There is no pragmatism in him at all.

00:33:23.700 And so if they get an order that they don't like, they just ignore it.

00:33:29.020 They just barrel on through.

00:33:30.260 I mean, we're talking now about the straws, but they lost on Bill C-69.

00:33:38.640 They treat it as if the court never spoke.

00:33:42.400 And I understand that in that particular case, there are a few technicalities surrounding it,

00:33:48.140 but they do not respect the spirit of the judgments.

00:33:51.140 They do not respect the actuality of the judgments.

00:33:53.860 And the other thing is that this is one of these word games that they play.

00:34:00.260 Obviously, we are surrounded by plastic.

00:34:05.180 There is nothing toxic.

00:34:06.840 I put this in, you know, lick this, I'm not going to die.

00:34:09.860 If I go into hospital, everything they put near me, in me, is going to be made of plastic.

00:34:15.580 Why?

00:34:16.140 Because it is sterile.

00:34:17.780 It is pure.

00:34:18.940 It is fresh out of the packet, and it is sterile, pure, and not toxic.

00:34:22.440 And yet, the environment minister will stand there, and in the one breath, say that carbon dioxide,

00:34:28.380 which is plant food is pollution and in the next breath say that this thing is going to kill you

00:34:33.780 it's toxic so there is some very there is some very serious you need to follow the science

00:34:40.720 nigel oh i tell you then it goes on but you ask what's what's what's this about um the problem

00:34:49.700 you know the smith government is going to fight it they will probably win it because it's

00:34:56.020 self-evidently obvious. I don't know. Now goes to Supreme Court, which is pretty stacked by Trudeau.

00:35:01.000 I mean, but it's made some decisions recently that surprised me. It has surprised me. They gave you C-69. They may too. Don't forget, these people are political in a different way. And they can see that the liberal government is actually not commanding the support of the people.

00:35:19.400 polls continue to plunge and when they're deciding things they're supposed to be looking for

00:35:26.100 what is the consensus of the Canadian public it's right there in the in the Constitution Act so

00:35:33.380 I think they may take the view most people don't think plastic is toxic otherwise they wouldn't

00:35:40.640 put it anywhere near their lips mouths or eyes so I wouldn't count on them winning that but I also

00:35:47.880 It wouldn't count on the federal government respecting their judgment when they lose.

00:35:53.100 I suppose that's where the Sovereignty Act comes in, Corey, that, you know, I mean, the Sovereignty Act seems to be, it was weaker than the original proposed version during Smith's leadership campaign.

00:36:03.980 But the version we have in legislation now more or less just puts the onus on Ottawa to sue Alberta to stop rather than the other way around.

00:36:13.420 Because, you know, traditionally, Alberta sues Ottawa. And even if you know, we have to wait years for a judgment, even if we win, Ottawa disregards it doesn't do it anyway. So Alberta is just going to go ahead and do its own thing. And Ottawa is going to have to come in and stop and stop us themselves. So, I don't know, maybe talk about how the Sovereignty Act.

00:36:34.260 Well, it's difficult. I'm not sure if it can. I mean, it's already act as I've seen it just keeps clarifying things and gives us a basis to go in with legally. And as you said, sort of makes forces them on the defensive to have to come in and justify things to us. But Ottawa, this particular government has made every policy a hill to die on, no matter how many court losses, public opinion losses, legislative losses, anything that happens, they will fight it to the bitter end. They won't just say, okay, that kind of failed. We'll just kind of let it

00:37:04.240 die by the wayside, move on with the rest of our agenda. No, they're going to appeal it to the

00:37:07.520 Supreme Court. And if the Supreme Court says it's unconstitutional, I got a feeling like with other

00:37:11.820 things in this night, so they're just going to power ahead. And what can we do provincially to

00:37:16.700 stop them? I mean, we can say we aren't going to comply. But the problem is, it's a private business

00:37:20.420 that orders these products from over the border, which is federally controlled. And you start into

00:37:25.740 a whole, ironically, I mean, we've got straw bans that might threaten the actual unity of the

00:37:31.560 country, because if the government isn't abiding by Supreme Court rulings on the Constitution,

00:37:35.400 we don't have a country. There's a great straw breaking the cannon's back reference in there.

00:37:40.100 Yeah, well, it's all about optics, right? That's why they didn't want to see the co-op bags. I mean,

00:37:45.760 even if they were compostable, because you can see the bag, you look at it, it looks like plastic.

00:37:50.360 That bugs them more than the reality of the plastic. I mean, I know there's real issues.

00:37:54.560 You know, my property bounds on Fish Creek, and in 10 years, I haven't seen a porpoise in there yet,

00:37:58.460 And it's probably due to the straws that have gone into the water.

00:38:01.320 But we've got to find better ways to cope with it.

00:38:03.560 But like I said, it's a game of optics.

00:38:04.860 It's that absurd.

00:38:05.720 And that's why I use the Prittus Creek analogy with it.

00:38:08.940 Like common sense has been thrown out the window.

00:38:11.180 As Nigel said, or you said, Gilboa is a pure ideologue.

00:38:14.760 You cannot reason with him.

00:38:16.960 And I just don't know.

00:38:18.660 I mean, we're running out of options on how to fight back with these guys.

00:38:21.340 I think it's worth picking up on that point about him being an ideologue.

00:38:25.540 He is.

00:38:27.360 But they let him be.

00:38:28.460 Why do they let him be?

00:38:30.460 He was brought on specifically because he is a fanatic.

00:38:33.460 He has one boss.

00:38:34.460 It's not just that he's an ideologue, it's that he's a fanatic.

00:38:37.460 And that was very intentional.

00:38:39.460 Trudeau knew who he was when he recruited him as a liberal candidate.

00:38:42.460 And I think the idea was to shore up their flank on the extreme left with the Greens and the NDP.

00:38:50.460 So they don't continue to believe that. 0.99

00:38:53.460 more serious and that is that every stupid thing of which we've been talking just now he can 0.98

00:38:59.740 shoulder it and then when he has served his usefulness he will be dispensed with and now 0.99

00:39:06.380 we've got liberals you can reason with you know there has to be a reason why they allow this man

00:39:13.660 to drag their fortunes down the way they do it is can only be he'll get it done and then he'll get

00:39:19.680 dropped and I'm not sure he has brought their fortunes down because yeah he might cost them

00:39:24.640 some votes on in the center and the moderate center right but he probably gets them votes

00:39:30.260 with people who might switch between the liberals and NDP or the liberals and the greens

00:39:34.280 I mean he yeah he's not going to get the many votes in Alberta but they don't care about votes

00:39:40.220 in Alberta they don't care about votes in Saskatchewan there's just not much in the

00:39:43.600 way of seats and votes for them to get here they care about it in other parts of the country

00:39:47.780 And Gilboa could be valuable for that.

00:39:50.420 They're losing right across the board.

00:39:52.300 Well, now they are, but that's because it's a general meltdown.

00:39:54.200 And, you know, this thing that Gilboa announced yesterday about the electric vehicles, I don't want to take you off topic.

00:40:01.140 Well, you're just going to – that's our next topic.

00:40:03.380 What's that?

00:40:03.960 That's our next topic.

00:40:05.100 All right.

00:40:05.460 Well, let's go to it.

00:40:06.200 So –

00:40:07.040 It's time anyway.

00:40:08.460 You know what?

00:40:08.800 I'm going to let – I think you may as well host.

00:40:11.020 You can host.

00:40:12.620 All right.

00:40:12.960 So Ottawa's e-vehicle mandates.

00:40:15.980 So, I don't have the date off the top of my head, but in the not-too-distant future, it's going to be illegal to buy real cars and trucks.

00:40:24.620 2035. That's the hard line.

00:40:26.980 And that's banned at that time. Can't buy them.

00:40:30.040 100%.

00:40:30.320 Yeah. And in the not-too-distant future, these mandates are going to get in hard.

00:40:34.720 I guess the idea being that gas-powered and diesel-powered vehicles are evil, destroying the earth.

00:40:40.100 So now we need to buy stuff made from African slave labor children who are working in cobalt and lithium mines. 0.99

00:40:52.100 So I guess the idea being they could subsidize e-vehicles as much as they want.

00:40:59.100 Most people just don't want to buy them.

00:41:01.100 A lot of us, it just doesn't make sense.

00:41:04.560 Those of us who take our vehicle out into the bush from time to time.

00:41:08.820 And we in hell, we're taking an e-vehicle.

00:41:11.520 It's not reliable.

00:41:12.940 It's just not going to do the trick.

00:41:14.940 Anyone who lives outside of a downtown core of a major city, it just doesn't make much sense.

00:41:20.440 So they can subsidize this stuff up the wazoo, but it's just not enough.

00:41:25.780 People don't want them.

00:41:27.800 Sales are dropping for this stuff.

00:41:29.760 So if you can't subsidize them, they're just going to mandate them.

00:41:35.260 You're going to have to, though, buy them.

00:41:36.700 You want to take more than the bus anywhere?

00:41:38.800 Well, you're going to have to buy an e-vehicle.

00:41:41.940 This is obviously going to create an absolute crisis in the vehicle market because it'll create scarcity.

00:41:48.620 So actually, your used vehicle, hang on to, if it's gas.

00:41:51.700 Oh, it's going to be worth a lot of money.

00:41:52.680 You know, it's going to be worth a lot more money than before, because I'll buy a 20-year-old gas-powered vehicle over a brand new electric vehicle, because I just depend on it more.

00:42:04.780 Let's pretend the Liberals stay in power here.

00:42:07.620 Highly doubtful the Liberals are going to be in power by 2035, I think.

00:42:12.180 Maybe they'll be back in power by then.

00:42:13.740 Alberta will be on its own by then, if that's the case.

00:42:15.760 Yeah.

00:42:16.680 But let's just pretend.

00:42:18.340 Let's just pretend this happens, and Gilbo is still there, Frudeau is still there.

00:42:22.000 Or maybe Gilboa was the prime minister.

00:42:23.400 Who knows?

00:42:23.760 Whatever dystopian world we're in here.

00:42:27.080 Yeah, it's a lot scarier than Krampus.

00:42:31.000 What does this look like?

00:42:32.680 Are people actually going to be actually driving these?

00:42:37.840 We'll start with you, Corey.

00:42:39.800 What does it actually look like when they've mandated this?

00:42:41.980 I don't know.

00:42:42.500 The interventionist tone he's taken, I mean, when we're talking about Gilboa's ideological bent,

00:42:47.840 and this is to the point of madness.

00:42:50.460 He's talking, look at some of those short-term numbers.

00:42:52.380 By 2026, two years from now, he wants every dealership to be 20% EV sales.

00:42:59.580 You're saying we're putting, and they said they're going to fine them if they don't.

00:43:03.420 So these are private businesses.

00:43:05.160 You're told if you don't have 20% of your market being this product, we will sanction you with fines.

00:43:12.460 It's madness.

00:43:13.580 I mean, I just don't know any other terms for it.

00:43:16.640 I mean, I understand where they want to go.

00:43:18.800 I don't agree with subsidies, but, I mean, it's a way I could see bringing it about more.

00:43:24.020 But if these dealerships could sell them, they already would.

00:43:27.360 They've had every incentive.

00:43:29.280 In fact, they're overstocked with the bloody things.

00:43:32.120 I don't see where this is going to go, but it's going to disrupt the market.

00:43:35.640 I could see it, again, dealers, manufacturers, service, they're going to say, I'm out of Canada.

00:43:40.540 I'm done with this.

00:43:41.420 We don't want any part of this mad country because we can't do business there.

00:43:44.940 Well, they put that mandate in, but they haven't promised that there will be 20% more electricity.

00:43:50.000 No, there's many, many more questions about the infrastructure and ability to manage these, even if it happens.

00:43:55.340 So the Premier is kicking around some interesting numbers here.

00:43:58.020 I understand that she's making a political point, so this would stand further analysis.

00:44:02.840 But she says that in Alberta, they sell 200,000 vehicles a year.

00:44:09.360 Last year, how many were electric? 2,000.

00:44:12.700 so if that unless they grow the interest in electric vehicles and you're trying to project

00:44:21.460 how many cars you can sell that's like 8,000 gas jobs a year that you're going to be able to sell

00:44:30.080 if they manage to kick it up to 3,000 electric cars a year and maybe they can because if you

00:44:36.120 can't get a gas car you probably buy what you can get maybe that's the federal thinking but

00:44:42.080 But there's this enormous disconnect between what the public wants and what the government

00:44:47.920 is prepared to say.

00:44:48.920 And she's saying if it's 20% in 2026 and it's 60% in 2030, then you'd better go out.

00:44:57.680 If you want a gas-powered car, you better go out and buy one now because you're going

00:45:02.020 to be on a waiting list for years.

00:45:04.400 It's going to be like the – she didn't say this, but I'm saying it'd be like the

00:45:07.260 Soviet Union.

00:45:08.260 Wait for your lot of –

00:45:10.260 Yeah, you turn 16, you get on the waiting list to get your, you know, little Soviet jalopy in 20 years or something, you know, maybe, maybe we'll, maybe we'll just go the route of Cuba that like, we'll have just, you know, 20 30 years from now, we'll just have all these classic cars on the road, we'll start fixing our cars, they're not going to physically, at this point, at least physically seize our combustion engine, combustion combustion engine.

00:45:40.260 vehicles. They're just not going to allow new ones to be sold. So like in that case, I'm just

00:45:46.640 keeping my truck forever. My truck's good for a while longer, but eventually I would probably get

00:45:50.840 a new one. Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll just drive my F-150 until the day I die. Punishing extra

00:45:56.480 gasoline tax. We know he's not going to achieve these goals, but he can do a terrific amount of

00:46:01.720 damage trying. That's the problem, you know? And again, with these poor auto dealers, what the

00:46:08.580 heck are they supposed to do when they're caught in the middle like this is basically gilbo admitting

00:46:12.740 a policy failure he's saying we don't know how to make everybody else buy these things so we're

00:46:17.380 gonna find the heck out of you if you don't find a way to make everybody buy these things

00:46:21.460 and it's out of our hands and uh it's it's irresponsible and it's it's frightening i think

00:46:26.100 was reagan who said if it uh if it moves tax it if it still moves regulate it if it when it stops

00:46:34.100 moving nationalize it so okay vehicles were going well tax carbon tax still

00:46:41.480 moving we wanted to stop so now they're gonna directly regulate it they're gonna

00:46:45.800 regulate what vehicles you can buy so eventually they'll probably killed the

00:46:50.660 auto industry and that's Ontario's problem so okay but it'll become a

00:46:55.040 Canadian problem because we can't get the cars we want so then we'll end up 0.90

00:46:58.640 nationalizing it which actually Stephen Harper partially

00:47:03.500 I still haven't forgiven him for it.

00:47:05.000 No, no, no.

00:47:05.480 We sold the shares.

00:47:06.620 We made money.

00:47:08.040 No, we did not make money in the end because we rode off a bunch.

00:47:10.720 We rode off a bunch.

00:47:12.380 We bought them at unfair prices.

00:47:14.600 Either way, we nationalized the auto industry.

00:47:19.240 Undeniable.

00:47:20.440 We bailed it out. 0.99

00:47:21.700 We bailed the shit out of it.

00:47:22.840 But we bought some of it, too, which was nationalization.

00:47:25.840 And then we sold it again.

00:47:26.940 So let the record show.

00:47:28.420 Yes.

00:47:28.800 We denationalized it after we nationalized it. 0.77

00:47:31.280 But mark my words, they'll kill this.

00:47:34.900 And eventually the federal government might end up opening dealerships because no one's going to want to sell it because no one's going to buy these cars.

00:47:41.880 Some people buy electric vehicles.

00:47:44.440 There's a market for it.

00:47:46.080 It's just not 100% of the market.

00:47:48.100 It's somewhere above zero and somewhere below 100.

00:47:51.140 I don't know exactly where it is.

00:47:53.060 But it's far closer to zero than it is to 100.

00:47:56.460 I'm willing to wager.

00:47:57.760 Statistics prove that out, yes.

00:47:59.840 Yeah.

00:48:00.020 Well, people are just scared that they're not going to have the electricity available to charge.

00:48:03.960 Well, of course, we think that's what we don't have the we don't have the generating capability to begin with, especially with the federal right new regulations.

00:48:13.220 They're trying to impose on the provinces for generation, especially in places like Alberta.

00:48:16.680 We're clearly not going to have the generation. And also just are we going to have a charging station every few kilometers the way we do gasoline?

00:48:24.380 And who's willing to sit around and wait a few hours for your vehicle to charge?

00:48:27.480 Derek, I know where you live.

00:48:29.880 How many people are served by the transformer out there?

00:48:32.540 The first person who gets an electric car is going to be fine.

00:48:36.220 The second one will be all right.

00:48:37.560 How many electric cars can that area afford before the transformer is thrown?

00:48:44.380 You don't want to find out.

00:48:45.860 No.

00:48:46.360 And you know what?

00:48:47.480 I'm sure there's probably, I'm sure there's an EV in my neighborhood somewhere.

00:48:51.220 But I don't recall ever seeing one other than an Uber that came in with a fake Mustang symbol.

00:48:57.480 on it because I guess that's what Ford does they take their EVs and call them Mustangs

00:49:01.840 all right anyway uh we're gonna we're out of time we're gonna wrap it up there thank you

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