Western Standard - The Pipeline： Is Trudeau moving towards banning all guns？

00:00:00.000 i love that intro music always pumps me up today is june 1st 2022 you're watching the pipeline

00:00:25.680 I'm Western Standard publisher, Derek Phil DeBrent.

00:00:29.640 Are you getting confused with my job now?

00:00:31.620 You know what? I want all the jobs.

00:00:33.220 I used to have almost all the jobs.

00:00:35.620 I'm down more or less to one job now.

00:00:37.040 Exactly.

00:00:38.040 The actual news editor is Dave Naylor.

00:00:40.800 How are you doing, Dave?

00:00:41.280 I'm good. Thank you.

00:00:42.960 We're out.

00:00:44.880 Are you Albertan enough to cheer for the Oilers now?

00:00:48.360 No.

00:00:48.620 Or are you too Calgarian? 0.97

00:00:50.160 Too Calgarian.

00:00:51.480 Being here 50 years, why would I want to cheer for Edmonton? 1.00

00:00:55.680 I'm just not Calgarian enough.

00:00:58.620 I guess I'm more Alberta than Calgary, I guess.

00:01:01.580 So I'm willing to swallow my pride on that one and go for the Oilers.

00:01:06.540 It's only going to last three more games anyway, so.

00:01:11.400 Yeah, maybe.

00:01:12.400 We'll see.

00:01:14.340 There's another guy in the studio here,

00:01:16.580 Western Standard Opinion and Broadcast Editor Corey Morgan.

00:01:19.160 Corey, you care about any of this stuff?

00:01:20.820 Not really.

00:01:21.460 No, not a sports guy.

00:01:22.620 Well, until the Steelers get going.

00:01:24.440 Okay.

00:01:25.680 There we go. 0.99

00:01:26.420 Surrounded by losers today. 0.99

00:01:29.680 It's not a new... 0.99

00:01:31.920 Okay, well, we've got...

00:01:33.660 There's a lot going on.

00:01:34.560 We've got an interesting show.

00:01:36.020 We're going to discuss the new federal government's gun bans,

00:01:41.800 freezing handgun sales,

00:01:44.020 and a lot of other new bans and restrictions on guns in Canada.

00:01:49.780 This isn't banning all guns,

00:01:51.320 but bit by bit, it's certainly looking an awful lot like this is where the federal government

00:01:57.660 wants to go. They're not going there right away. They're politically smart enough to know that

00:02:01.960 they can't get away with that right now. That seems to be the direction they're going in.

00:02:05.960 So we're going to be discussing, is this a part of a move towards a total firearms ban,

00:02:11.540 at least among people who don't work for the government in Canada? Also, Canada's never-ending

00:02:17.180 travel restrictions. Canada is one of the only countries left in the world. I think the only

00:02:23.380 country really with a lockdown that's lasted longer is North Korea. Lockdown world champions, 1.00

00:02:28.720 North Korea. Now, obviously, this isn't lockdown, but it is locking people into and out of Canada 0.87

00:02:34.860 in many cases. Canada's continued travel restrictions, defying all science, defying all

00:02:41.320 logic uh except for the political logic i suppose uh from the liberals perspective and the alberta

00:02:48.040 united conservative party leadership race officially underway with the first uh candidate

00:02:53.400 that is filed other candidates preparing to launch campaigns and actually have an exclusive story

00:02:59.080 that just came out hours ago uh for the western center zone rachel emmanuel about uh michelle

00:03:05.960 Rumpel Garner, testing the waters, making some calls about potentially jumping in herself.

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00:05:33.120 New gun legislation coming. Mainstream media call it gun control. Who would be opposed to gun

00:05:39.180 control? No one's opposed to gun control. This is not controlling guns. This is controlling people

00:05:43.040 and what law by firearms owners do. Dave, tell us about this new legislation.

00:05:50.180 Well, very coincidentally, it comes just a couple of days after that horrible school massacre in Texas.

00:05:57.240 So good timing, bad timing, deliberate timing.

00:06:00.500 Justin Trudeau came out and the big topic on it was handguns.

00:06:05.560 Complete freeze cap on handguns.

00:06:08.100 No longer for sale.

00:06:09.200 You can't trade them.

00:06:10.580 You can't give me one of yours.

00:06:12.520 I can't trade or get one from Corey.

00:06:15.180 Complete another cap on it.

00:06:17.540 So that was the big news.

00:06:18.720 Is there some other minor stuff about the magazine and Corey's pellet gun that can only be five shots maximum?

00:06:27.400 My 22, yeah.

00:06:28.320 It was a rimfire, so I could have had 10 before.

00:06:31.140 Still have 10.

00:06:32.440 But theoretically, it would have to be modified to only take five.

00:06:36.520 Or a little go for a gun.

00:06:37.680 Or a little go for a gun.

00:06:38.840 And they've promised by the year end, believe it or not, that they're going to come up with their plan

00:06:43.920 on how they're going to buy back all these 1,500 different varieties of gun

00:06:48.340 that they banned last year.

00:06:50.100 So they still haven't come up with that yet,

00:06:51.880 but all the experts seem to think it'll be a billion-dollar boondoggle.

00:06:56.520 Some experts saying as much as $6 or $7 billion.

00:07:01.580 But, yeah, the big news this week, Derek, was handguns,

00:07:04.360 and obviously they think that's going to put a stop to all criminality in Canada,

00:07:08.900 but, hey, the very next day a 15-year-old boy in Toronto picked up with a handgun

00:07:13.160 And I'm charged a criminal like so.

00:07:15.120 20 bucks says that handgun was not legally sold in Canada.

00:07:18.380 I'm not taking that bet.

00:07:19.780 Yeah.

00:07:20.680 Yeah.

00:07:21.360 Well, it's been well established.

00:07:24.240 The Canadian government does not track the origin of firearms used in the Commission of Crimes.

00:07:31.820 They just, for some reason, after all of this time, decades and decades of debate around guns,

00:07:38.060 we don't track where the hell these things come from.

00:07:41.020 The only jurisdiction I'm aware of that did it in any kind of significant way was Toronto.

00:07:44.780 I think a year ago, their chief came out with a report,

00:07:47.960 and they found that the overwhelming majority of firearms used in the commission of a crime,

00:07:53.420 in Toronto at least, were smuggled from the United States.

00:07:57.800 It was 86%.

00:07:59.020 Okay, there you go.

00:08:01.640 That was on your show, wasn't it?

00:08:02.940 Yeah, that's...

00:08:04.200 Still got it.

00:08:04.800 You don't remember that from a year ago.

00:08:06.360 Okay.

00:08:06.760 Okay. Corey, I don't think we need to debate the efficacy of what they're doing here. It's clearly virtue signaling. It's clearly not going to do anything. I'm not sure the liberals even believe it does. If handguns are such a menace, they would ban them today.

00:08:23.860 They would do it now, and they'd come and try and take it from our cold, dead hands kind of thing.

00:08:28.600 But they're not.

00:08:29.780 They're going piece by piece.

00:08:33.100 What do you think the political – it's clearly a political goal they're trying to achieve here.

00:08:36.960 I think they're smart enough to know this is going to do nothing.

00:08:40.340 What is the political goal they're trying to achieve?

00:08:42.180 It's ideological and it's control, and it is clearly political.

00:08:45.660 I think the main indicator that it's political is the fact that they sat on this.

00:08:48.920 You know, it takes a while to draft legislation, get all that ready.

00:08:51.540 they could have tabled that months ago if they wanted to but they waited they waited until

00:08:56.100 the world was on edge and the right disaster was going to approach and that disaster was this

00:09:00.900 shooting in texas so they could look how reactive we are look how we're going to make sure we're not

00:09:05.560 like that we're going to keep you all safe and again it doesn't matter that none of this would

00:09:08.960 apply to what happened there or what will happen here it's a political move and it follows on

00:09:14.560 their ideology and uh that's all it's modeled for is standing up and it makes it hard because

00:09:19.960 Every time you oppose it or say something, oh, you support things like that shooting down Texas.

00:09:23.420 No, I don't. But it doesn't matter. Now you're on the defensive.

00:09:25.660 And that's the ugly kind of politics this government continues to play.

00:09:30.980 Well, it's not just the liberals doing it.

00:09:33.340 Jean Charest now is reversing his position on guns was he's not going to touch what the liberals have done so far.

00:09:42.540 He's more or less good to respect the new stuff the liberals have done, including banning all sorts of stuff.

00:09:48.700 But he's kind of added to his position now.

00:09:52.060 Well, don't forget he was the premier in Quebec when they brought it in.

00:09:55.660 So he's got a long history of supporting firearms registries and regulations and all that sort of stuff.

00:10:03.760 So it's just giving more ammunition to the people in the race who are just describing him as really a liberal and conservative sheep's clothing.

00:10:14.080 Corey, do you think, am I being overly paranoid here?

00:10:17.000 Have I got my Alex Jones tinfoil hat on too much here?

00:10:21.320 Or do you think they really are trying to move towards a total firearms ban?

00:10:27.000 Absolutely.

00:10:27.780 They've always wanted to.

00:10:29.360 Look, this goes all the way back to the discussions from the early 90s with the registry and Alan Rock.

00:10:33.860 You know, back then, there was only one point to registering long guns.

00:10:37.340 Only one.

00:10:38.320 You can't seize them if you don't know where they are.

00:10:40.560 Their intent was to find out where every firearm was in Canada and then to take them.

00:10:45.140 And it failed dismally.

00:10:47.000 And now they're trying other means of doing it, you know, incrementally banning individual

00:10:51.480 firearms, making individual firearms illegal. Like some of them, I was talking to Tony Bernardo

00:10:56.800 from the Shooting Sports Association. Some of those changes to the magazine capacity,

00:11:00.360 they can't be fixed in these firearms. These firearms are now going to be illegal and they

00:11:04.800 will have to be, if a law abiding person would turn them in and trash them. It's just bit by bit

00:11:09.520 and they'll keep adding to these things. They want to disarm the entire country. They want to do as

00:11:13.480 Australia did. And they're going to have a hard time though. A lot of people forget Canada actually

00:11:18.920 is one of the most highly armed countries civilian wise in the world. We're 13th, I believe it is. I

00:11:24.880 mean, the Americans are well and beyond us, but still we have tens of millions of firearms in

00:11:29.560 this country and the government doesn't know where most of them are. And these efforts are just going

00:11:33.260 to cost a fortune. And it's just going to drive things underground again. Talking to a buddy

00:11:38.920 yesterday, he's got a plethora of handguns. He says they're either going to fall over the side

00:11:43.480 of a boat or they, you know, they may get stolen in the break and enter where the fee magically

00:11:48.260 leaves behind a thousand bucks. You know, it's just going to drive more and more stuff on the

00:11:52.920 ground, which, you know, always seems to happen with the liberals. You know, I had some angry guy

00:11:58.800 on Twitter just the other day, you know, I was bashing this bill and he says, well, do you have

00:12:04.900 some kind of interest in the black market, implying that I must be a kind of black market

00:12:08.540 gun runner. My dream job actually isn't the Western Senate. It's to be a gun runner into

00:12:12.720 places like Venezuela, to arm their population, to overthrow their government. That's my real

00:12:17.220 dream job. I never imagined my dream job actually might be running guns into Canada.

00:12:22.660 All you need is a drone.

00:12:24.980 It's not hard.

00:12:26.000 That's what's happening in Ontario now. They're being flown in by the dozens of drones.

00:12:29.440 We've got a 9,000 kilometer border just to the United States. We've got coasts on either side

00:12:33.920 of us. Nothing is going to stop firearms from coming in. Yeah. The black market is,

00:12:41.160 but what my response was, well, if the government can pass a legislation like this,

00:12:46.660 I am going to have an interest in the black market. I don't know many gun owners who will

00:12:50.960 willfully surrender their guns to the government. I don't expect many gun owners to barricade

00:12:56.940 themselves up in a strong room in their house and shoot whoever tries to take it. I don't think

00:13:02.660 we're going to see that, but I think we're going to see exactly what you described there is,

00:13:07.380 well, I lost the guns. And then you get in trouble for that. You know what happens if

00:13:11.760 you misplace a restricted firearm in Canada? You know what the federal government can do?

00:13:16.340 They can take your gun license away. Well, who cares? If they're taking away our guns,

00:13:21.200 you don't need the gun license anyway. So, you know, you're going to have all of these guns

00:13:25.380 that people own lawfully right now, and the government's going to abandon them. And eventually

00:13:30.480 they're going to send a guy to your house to come and take them. I don't know where they are.

00:13:36.020 Yeah, we had a boating accident and they're gone. And what we're going to have is all of these guns.

00:13:40.380 And, you know, I'd rather see my own guns in the black market in the hands of some,

00:13:46.160 I'm not going to say the words, unrighteous politician who would seize them from me.

00:13:53.480 And I think a lot of people feel the same way. We're going to see, now a lot of those guns will

00:13:57.080 to make it to otherwise fine, otherwise law-abiding people, but some people be less

00:14:01.800 scrupulous. And the real black market, the black market that traffics in criminal guns,

00:14:08.360 that's going to be flooded. That is who's going to benefit here is organized crime and pushing

00:14:13.200 around illegal guns. There was a report this week, four years ago, the Liberals decriminalized pot

00:14:19.560 and a report out four years later shows the black market and pot, the drug dealers are getting

00:14:24.560 richer and richer. They're making more money now than they ever have. And they're selling more pot

00:14:29.080 than the legalized, you know, government stores. Same thing will happen with guns, no doubt about

00:14:35.440 it. All right. Well, we're more restrictions on guns, but the restrictions on the ability of

00:14:46.640 every Canadian citizen to freely enter, leave and travel within their country is not changing.

00:14:52.500 We're staying extremely restrictive. I suppose we're not, you know, North Korea is on what their 75th year of lockdowns. We're on, we're going to be approaching a year of severe travel restrictions on the unvaccinated in Canada. You still can't fly between, you can't get on a plane or a ferry if you go between provinces. You can't, it's virtually impossible to enter and leave on a plane.

00:15:19.800 you can, but you have to pretend to quarantine for a few weeks. You can get away with it, but

00:15:24.780 it's still, you're still technically breaking the law. Dave, there's some news on this,

00:15:29.620 the federal government renewing the travel ban. Yeah, they voted this week. The vote comes up

00:15:35.400 every month that they have to renew it. Is the vote of the cabinet? No, this is a vote of

00:15:39.440 parliament. The liberal, sorry, the conservatives put in a motion to rescind all the travel

00:15:44.860 restrictions and the the liberals the bloc the green and the ndp all said no no we must keep

00:15:51.420 them uh the conservatives of course voted no to uh to rescind them so of course the majority rules

00:15:57.100 and they're here for another month so the the conservatives can bring it up again june 30th

00:16:02.460 and interestingly the head of west jet today was flying in europe and uh took a picture of himself

00:16:07.900 not wearing a mask you know it's nice to fly mask free uh so the head of c or the ceo of west jet

00:16:13.740 today uh you know announcing this is ridiculous he's joining a long list of people including

00:16:20.060 alberta premier jason kenny who have argued this this for months and there just doesn't seem to

00:16:24.860 be any medical reason for it doesn't there's not a one well so there clearly is none the science

00:16:32.300 you know the liberals love to say follow the science they say it on everything every other

00:16:36.620 country did yeah uh we're clearly not following the science it's clearly political what do you

00:16:42.380 why would they do this, do you think? This is pure spite, ego, and embittered prime minister

00:16:49.240 who just does not want to back down an inch on anything that people pushed back on him for. He

00:16:54.800 was embarrassed by the truckers' convoys. He does not want to look like he's backing down on

00:17:00.540 anything. There's no other basis for this. It's killing our tourism industry. Another month now

00:17:05.320 of people rescheduling their trips. And let's not pretend it's a minor amount. I mean, there's a lot

00:17:09.940 of unvaccinated people in the world. That's a large hit to our tourism industry, not to mention 0.99

00:17:14.240 just the hassle of crossing the border. This comes into people's consideration if they're

00:17:18.920 going to go somewhere. We've got a whole world competing. We've got Mexico down there who wants

00:17:22.440 to take tourists in. We've got Americans who will travel within the United States. And all of this

00:17:27.660 just because we've got a prime minister with a chip on his shoulder. There's no science

00:17:30.840 whatsoever to support keeping these vaccine mandates. And you know who's taking a big hit

00:17:35.920 this week is the stampede uh you know all those americans who are going to come in uh just a 0.99

00:17:41.840 month away away you know they had their plans they're going elsewhere now although the unvaccinated

00:17:46.820 people in toronto we were hoping to come and visit for a week not coming anymore so i guess all we

00:17:51.860 have to hope for is that kevin costner's vaccinated or they'll be trying to find a new uh stampede

00:17:57.080 parade marshal one of the cast members from uh that show there was that video he put out a while

00:18:02.020 saying he wanted to travel up.

00:18:03.840 And, you know, I can't remember his name.

00:18:05.700 He was going to go on the red carpet.

00:18:08.720 And they, I think it was the screen actor's bill.

00:18:10.900 And they wouldn't let him.

00:18:12.560 I can't go because I'm not vaccinated.

00:18:14.880 Well, he won't be coming up.

00:18:16.520 It was scheduled.

00:18:17.540 But this costs, this comes at the real cost.

00:18:20.600 And it shouldn't be dismissed.

00:18:24.020 Well, that's because we have Jamie Dutton for our prime minister.

00:18:28.060 Yeah, that's very good.

00:18:30.240 All right.

00:18:31.600 Well, speaking of all this, our next sponsor is the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:18:38.100 I've been a member of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association for well over a decade, long before I started this with the Western Standard here.

00:18:46.040 So, you know, when I vouch for them as a great firearms rights organization, you know I'm telling the truth because I've been a member of them long before they were a sponsor of ours.

00:18:55.000 The Canadian Shooting Sports Association is important right now more than ever.

00:19:00.420 When you have politicians who wish to take who use tragedy for political ends, like you're seeing in Canada right now, you know, the Canadian left wishes they had America's problems. They wish we had, you know, more. The Canadian left never had their 60s moment. We didn't have a Vietnam War. When when, you know, racial minority communities said we want to be treated equally. Canadians said, well, it sounds reasonable. Okay, you know, like we had problems and we sort of

00:19:30.360 them out pretty well here. And the Canadian left was jealous. They never had their 60s. They just

00:19:35.900 never had to have that moment. And so they're constantly trying to recreate America's problems

00:19:41.320 here because they want to fight problems that we just don't have. And that manifests itself

00:19:46.880 all too often on the backs of law-abiding firearms owners who just want to be left alone

00:19:52.280 to do what they do safely and responsibly. And that's why we need organizations like the Canadian

00:19:58.620 Shooting Sports Association right now who are fighting against this kind of cynical, corrupt

00:20:03.860 politics that seeks to steal your firearms simply to appease some liberal voters in downtown Toronto 1.00

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00:20:17.960 the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, you really should be. I am, and it's necessary if

00:20:23.880 you believe in your right to own, use, and safely carry firearms in Canada.

00:20:28.720 Corey, what's their website?

00:20:29.900 It is cssa-cila.org.

00:20:34.220 Okay.

00:20:35.580 This production, we're going to make a note.

00:20:36.840 I want a jingle made with that, with a little bouncy ball along the bottom.

00:20:41.980 Every time Corey says it, we should do it with a jingle.

00:20:44.840 Okay.

00:20:45.720 Speaking of jingles, the United Conservative Party of Alberta's leadership race is now

00:20:52.260 officially underway.

00:20:53.880 We had the first, he's not announced yet.

00:20:56.900 We know it's coming because he's registered.

00:20:58.200 We had the first registration just a few days ago, right?

00:21:01.060 And an announcement followed quickly that day.

00:21:03.740 Travis Taves is the first official candidate in the race.

00:21:06.920 Kicked it off with a very slick media presentation up in the Grand Prairie

00:21:11.020 where his riding is at a press conference.

00:21:13.960 And he was all kitted out in his cowboy duds and riding a horse.

00:21:17.600 A little barbecue sauce.

00:21:18.880 It was either a fly or a barbecue sauce.

00:21:21.180 I think a barbecue sauce.

00:21:22.160 some people send both so they're both pretty albertan they're both pretty albertan yeah

00:21:26.720 uh maybe a mosquito in there too uh too would have helped but uh yeah and there are lots of

00:21:31.880 other developments now uh as you've mentioned we've got michelle rempel gardener testing the

00:21:36.740 water we've already got um danielle smith and brian gene who have said they're going to just

00:21:42.300 haven't filed a paperwork yet uh as a rebecca schultz is also testing the water um so yeah

00:21:48.940 It's getting more and more exciting.

00:21:53.240 Kenny was asked who he's going to support.

00:21:55.120 Obviously, he says he's not going to support anybody,

00:21:57.900 but he's waiting for a couple of weeks

00:22:00.040 until he does a full cabinet shuffle

00:22:01.500 because he thinks more cabinet ministers

00:22:04.520 are going to join the race.

00:22:06.980 So, yeah, it's going to be a fun few weeks.

00:22:09.040 It is tough with these kinds of cabinet shuffles

00:22:11.420 because one person leaving is not just a simple,

00:22:14.860 stick something, these are ripple effects

00:22:16.980 and you've got to move all over.

00:22:18.400 So when you've got multiple people dropping out of the cabinet for something like this, it's pretty tough.

00:22:24.140 That actually probably is a smart move to wait, just have these jobs temporarily folded in the meantime.

00:22:30.400 Travis Taves is out. He's not announcing him as such, but he's well known to be sort of the kind of the Kenny establishment candidate.

00:22:39.020 And I'm not really meaning that pejoratively, but he's backed by that inner circle around Kenny.

00:22:43.980 A lot of senior people in the party affiliated with Kenny.

00:22:49.260 On the other side, on the other polar opposite, you've got, not really by policy, but more in personnel, you've got Gene as the ultimate anti-Kenny.

00:22:59.320 Anti-Kenny, but maybe not as outspokenly so.

00:23:01.500 We've got Danielle Smith.

00:23:04.540 But with the exit from the race, unexpectedly, of Doug Schweitzer, we expected to kind of carry that more of the progressive conservative flag.

00:23:13.040 That left a bit of a hole there on that side of the party, and we might see that being filled to some extent by Michelle Rempel-Garner.

00:23:23.620 Actually, Dave, I'm going to go to Corey for your comment in a second.

00:23:27.140 Why don't you tell us, we had the Western Standard's Rachel Emanuel break that just hours ago, an exclusive story about her testing the waters.

00:23:34.160 Yeah, three sources Rachel had. 0.94

00:23:36.720 Apparently a survey was put out asking, you know, who people thought would be good for the race. 1.00

00:23:41.540 and Michelle Rampel-Gardner did quite well.

00:23:45.320 She hasn't spoken to us.

00:23:47.460 We haven't been able to get a hold of her.

00:23:49.920 But, yes, I mean, I think she's done federally supporting – what's his name?

00:23:56.180 The mayor – supporting Patrick Brown was a very strange thing, I think, for her to do.

00:24:02.500 He's obviously not going to win, so she may have cut off her nose to spite her face there.

00:24:07.280 So she may be looking for other opportunities, and I think she would probably do fairly well in Alberta.

00:24:14.040 Corey, I think for some time, Michelle Rempel's been very frustrated with federal politics.

00:24:20.680 I think she's actually spoken publicly about frustration with the Conservative Party catering to, you know, kind of that central Canadian too much.

00:24:28.400 She, you know, when the Conservative Party voted roughly 50-50 on a free vote about giving Quebec seats that its population does not deserve in the next redistribution of seats, she was very critical of her own party.

00:24:41.720 I feel like she's been kind of checking out for some time.

00:24:46.720 But she's an interesting candidate.

00:24:48.680 I don't think you could peg her, you know, that neatly as a traditional progressive Conservative.

00:24:53.860 You know, one day, you know, she's like signing the Buffalo Declaration, which is a pretty hard line. Alberta and Saskatchewan rights document with maximum autonomy and respect within Canada, constitutional change, stuff that people don't want to talk about anymore.

00:25:11.560 The next day, she's kind of, you know, speaking almost in kind of woke language.

00:25:20.380 Then the day after, she's hard on firearms rights and fits right in at, you know, the Calgary Gun Show. 0.65

00:25:28.020 How do you think she would fit into this race? 0.78

00:25:31.200 I don't think she would well, to be honest.

00:25:34.420 She hasn't been well established in the provincial political scene.

00:25:37.400 And so she, I mean, there are a lot of overlap and there's a lot of, you know, operators federally as well as provincially, but getting a team will be a little more difficult.

00:25:44.420 But that Brown, as Dave said, is sunk her not just federally. 0.92

00:25:47.700 I mean, the performance of Brown and some of the stunts they've done, including from Michelle's own Twitter account, you know, with trying to label opposing candidates as racists and that sort of garbage.

00:25:57.360 She's not endeared herself to the Albert and Conservative set right now.

00:26:01.140 As well, I mean, you could say it's somebody who's their own person and has a broad set of policies because she is hard to pin down, but it also can make her look inconsistent.

00:26:09.940 I mean, if you are a really red of the red Tories, you don't like the regionalism, the autonomy move.

00:26:14.840 Well, the Buffalo Declaration, rather than bringing in more that can make deal breakers for her on the other end or with a hardcore social conservative, her very socially liberal stances could sour some of them on things.

00:26:27.140 So, I mean, she would be fresh, at least on the scene, which is something a lot of people are asking for. 0.99

00:26:31.740 So fair enough there. 0.97

00:26:33.480 But I don't know the way she bounces around, if she'd be able to consolidate the support needed in one spot to win her leadership. 0.90

00:26:39.840 Well, she's also, she would also be the only Calgary, although Rebecca Schultz would, I guess, count.

00:26:43.860 But I mean, with all respect to Rebecca Schultz, I don't think she'll be really a contender to win.

00:26:49.440 She'll probably have a respectable campaign. 0.57

00:26:51.640 but I don't see Rebecca Schultz as having the horsepower and the name recognition necessary to 1.00

00:26:56.360 win a race like this. Michelle Rempel does have the name recognition. You know, for all the talk 1.00

00:27:02.040 of the Federal Conservative Party being an Alberta-based party, most people can name very few

00:27:07.080 Federal Conservative MPs right now. I think if you asked, if we walked outside of the building

00:27:11.240 here or onto the LRT line and we asked people to name a single Federal Conservative MP,

00:27:15.480 probably named Michelle Rempel.

00:27:18.380 Anyone else?

00:27:20.860 You're the average person on the street?

00:27:22.260 No, she might be it.

00:27:23.900 She really might be it.

00:27:25.040 So she's got name recognition.

00:27:28.800 But where she kind of fits,

00:27:30.420 because these are coalition parties

00:27:32.240 and there's tribes within the tribes.

00:27:35.900 The winner normally needs to have

00:27:37.300 some kind of broad appeal, 1.00

00:27:38.580 but she's got opinions that appeal to people 0.99

00:27:41.540 on different sides and different tribes.

00:27:43.560 but she's also got very public opinions on and policies on issues that very much put them off

00:27:48.860 but i think you're right though the patrick brown campaign was a very curious choice i'd put that

00:27:56.280 that's my polite term for it um you know and and that campaign is you know it's bizarre it's been

00:28:03.100 courting exclusively ethnic and religious minority communities that's all and you know

00:28:09.340 that is a part of politics in canada it's part of politics in alberta but normally that's kind

00:28:12.920 of a side do a campaign to give you a give you an edge over everyone else. But it's been

00:28:17.000 exclusively that and then it's been going around accusing everyone of being racist. And, you know,

00:28:23.160 that's not necessarily her, but you know, she she's a major part of that campaign.

00:28:29.660 Is there any thought you guys have any thoughts on just how much her affiliation with the Patrick

00:28:33.420 Brown campaign might hinder what she does here? Well, I think you got to look at candidates in

00:28:39.380 terms of how much stink do they have on them uh travis taves was a member of kenny's inner circle

00:28:45.760 was a participant in the sky palace fiasco uh but he seems to have come out of it with less

00:28:52.560 stink than say a tyler shandro uh that's because no one even knows who he is yeah exactly so he

00:28:59.380 he you know he comes out of it with with with sort of smelling not too bad despite the fact 0.94

00:29:05.360 he was in the inner circle. Michelle Rempel-Garner's stink is all federal and all what she's, you know, 0.94

00:29:11.480 as Corey's already talked about, it was strange that she joined Patrick Brown to begin with

00:29:15.420 and some of her actions during the campaign are inexplicable. I know there's a lot of Albertans

00:29:22.680 that were all so upset that she seemed to spend a lot of time down in the States during all the

00:29:27.760 restrictions with her husband down there in Oklahoma. So she's got that stink on her. So I 1.00

00:29:34.420 I mean, it's all a matter of who's got the less stake.

00:29:37.460 Yeah, and also, as Derek said, too, it's a tribal thing.

00:29:40.480 Like, that's what I wonder about.

00:29:41.660 She hasn't really been around and establishing with the UCP tribe.

00:29:46.740 I mean, she could consolidate a lot of opposition to herself among the others who are already gathering.

00:29:52.180 Again, it's not impossible to overcome, but she's got a big disadvantage if she's going to kind of almost parachute back into a provincial race.

00:29:57.960 Well, maybe that's why she's looking for people to help her.

00:30:00.300 Let's test the waters.

00:30:01.480 Well, so let's talk about that coming from Federal or Provincial here. She's obviously a prominent Federal Conservative MP right now. But we've had a lot of Federal Conservative MPs come in, and the track record's not been great so far. You know, Jim Prentice came from on high, and it ended spectacularly.

00:30:22.680 Brian Jean was a federal. Now, Brian Jean doesn't get actually tied with it as much for some reason.

00:30:29.400 Maybe it's because he was not a very prominent MP. He was definitely a backbencher and was not

00:30:35.000 very well known beyond his constituency. But he was a federal MP and came in with the Wild Rose

00:30:40.840 and then for the UCP. Jason Kenney, obviously another very prominent federal conservative MP,

00:30:47.100 came in, and that has now ended in disaster.

00:30:52.680 I mean, there is a record of it maybe going poorly,

00:30:55.580 but there is a record of federal conservative MPs

00:30:58.360 being very successful in winning party leaderships.

00:31:02.300 I'll get from both of you.

00:31:03.900 Handicap this.

00:31:05.500 Is this, this time around,

00:31:08.600 is this going to be a help or hindrance?

00:31:10.020 Is this a net positive or net negative for Rempel

00:31:13.200 as a federal MP, as a potentially running for the UCP?

00:31:16.740 Well, what she's got, as everybody said, is the name recognition. And you can't beat the name recognition, because a lot of people that go, you know, when you're voting for city council, you may recognize, oh, yeah, I recognize that person's name. And that's why they get the vote. So it gives her a good advantage. I mean, it gives her, you know, one step ahead of anybody else that's considering running, certainly. But she's got to get organized.

00:31:41.260 But do you think there's any fatigue with the idea of federal conservative MPs coming down to the Alberta level or not?

00:31:49.280 I don't think so at the moment. I mean, let's hear what she has to say. We're just in hypothetical situations at the moment. Let's hear her platform. But you're right, though. There's not been a single one of them that's covered themselves in glory, has there?

00:32:05.180 I'm a lot with you on that.

00:32:06.740 And the federal, I mean, there's an advantage of getting that profile.

00:32:09.180 Actually, just about 20 minutes before we left to do this show,

00:32:11.460 I threw out a quick poll on Twitter of four candidates who looked to have declared.

00:32:15.160 I don't know Twitter polls.

00:32:16.440 They are.

00:32:17.340 But I got about 120 responses before we came in here, you know, a quick little measure.

00:32:21.260 And I had Brian Jean, Danielle Smith, Travis Tays.

00:32:24.620 And something that we haven't mentioned is that Rajon Sani.

00:32:27.800 Rajon Sani.

00:32:28.540 She's our transportation minister.

00:32:30.640 Yeah. 0.94

00:32:31.520 And in that 120 votes, she garnered two of them. This is a federal, this is a provincial cabinet

00:32:37.840 minister. This should be a prominent person, but nobody knows who the hell she is. You can't 1.00

00:32:41.200 pronounce her name. Exactly. And my apologies for the race. We'll get to know each other. I'll get

00:32:46.720 better with it. But I mean, that name recognition is essential. It puts you at a terrible disadvantage

00:32:53.040 again, if people don't even know who you are to begin with. So the profile that Rempel Garner

00:32:58.400 bill federally, I think it certainly helps, I mean, more than hinders. And she'll have some

00:33:03.600 sort of organization in Calgary, obviously just limited to within her riding, but she handily 1.00

00:33:08.840 wins her riding every election. So, you know, she's got that in place. Well, she, and she does

00:33:14.440 beat the, you know, even compared to other conservative MPs in the city, she is a rare

00:33:18.880 conservative MP in a safe seat. And she doesn't really treat her seat as very safe. She is,

00:33:26.300 door knocks between elections furiously. She's organizing, fundraising, whereas most, you know, 1.00

00:33:32.780 rural Alberta and suburban Calgary MPs, really outside of the two inner city ridings here,

00:33:39.080 they take the seat for granted because they can. I mean, there's no reason really to break a sweat

00:33:45.560 because you're going to win every time. And she doesn't. And while that, you know, that maybe 0.71

00:33:51.660 runs up her score a little bit, it does mean that she actually has a team in place that are

00:33:56.900 good ground game organizers. So I wouldn't discount her. I think she comes to it also

00:34:03.220 probably able to bring a lot of federal conservatives with her as well. I think she'd be,

00:34:08.000 I think she could be a contender to win it that we weren't really talking about so much last week.

00:34:12.220 Yeah. And during the all federal election, she's out in other MPs writings,

00:34:17.000 helping them, right? So it'll be time to call back a favor and we'll get some help being

00:34:21.500 brought into the city. 1.00

00:34:22.560 Those kind of chits matter 1.00

00:34:23.320 when this happens. 1.00

00:34:25.420 All right.

00:34:26.600 Well, that's it for today.

00:34:28.500 Corey and Dave,

00:34:29.400 thank you for joining me today.

00:34:30.620 How drunk do you think

00:34:31.820 Johnny Depp is right now in England?

00:34:34.440 I think he's recreating

00:34:35.780 his favorite scenes from Blow.

00:34:38.420 Well, I bet you he is.

00:34:39.660 Yeah.

00:34:40.380 Johnny Depp won big.

00:34:42.560 Yeah, absolutely.

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