The Pipeline: July 21, 2021
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Join Western Standard editor-in-chief Dave Naylor and editor-at-large Derek Fildebrand as they discuss Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's not-so-balanced budget plan for the upcoming federal election, the legacy of Prime Minister Blackface, and the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.
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Hi. Welcome to The Pipeline. I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
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today is july 2021 i'm joined today by western news editor dave naylor dave how are you feeling
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well you know i'm uh battling this bc smoke feels like i've already smoked a pack today
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but they're not doing great i think bc would be a little more upset than we are
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we were blowing this smoke at them well you know almost an annual event now isn't it
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it's just kind of a part of the weather plan plan uh we've got about a month of fall you know
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most of the year's winter brief spring a really brief summer and then smoke season yes yeah uh
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cory cory morgan uh host of the cory morgan show and a political columnist how you doing cory very
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good uh well today we've got a great show we've got uh a federal election almost certainly coming
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We're going to be talking about how the different major parties look going into that.
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We've got dueling, not-so-balanced budget plans from Justin Trudeau versus Aaron O'Toole.
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One is asking for a political lifetime to balance the budget.
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The other one is asking for an actual full-length human lifetime to balance the budget.
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Speaking of Prime Minister Blackface, he'll be participating in a video or a history of some sorts.
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dave will have the details on that about on uh on african canadians uh he is one himself
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uh he really speaks from personal experience this is what they call lived experience uh justin
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trudeau has been black himself multiple times in the past so we'll be speaking about his in-depth
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knowledge on the subject uh and and speaking of of legacies uh his own father's legacy continuing
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on well in the federal government uh canada's federal government praising cuba's communists
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they're only cracking down because of covid and you know people get crazy from covid you gotta
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you gotta keep those people in line uh so canada praising uh cuba's uh cuba's commies
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and so we'll be talking about that and how canada's been a beacon for freedom in the world
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uh along those lines okay so we've got before we get started of course we want to thank all
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Well, let's turn our attention to Canadian federal politics. I like to ignore them
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as much as I possibly can, but, you know, Ottawa still exists, and we have to deal with it.
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Federal election coming, we've got different polls out. I know there's a Nanos one we just
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briefly saw before we came on, but there's some other ones that you've reported on, Dave.
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why don't you give us the skinny sure it's the worst the worst kept secret in the country that
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we're bound for an election very soon liberal staffers have been told to wrap up all their
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holidays by august 15th so that's being all signs to point to a election around the end of around
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the end of september since erin o'toole took over the conservative party they've been in the tank
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poll was, trailing the Liberals by sometimes more than 10 figures, basically led by O'Toole's
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personal unpopularity, Derek. But now there's a poll out that we reported on this week from
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Angus Reid showing that they're in a statistical tie. The hatred for O'Toole has grown to an
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all-time high. 58% of people don't like him, which is a huge figure, but statistically they're now
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tied with the liberals. And the pollsters say the reason for this is because COVID is basically over
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and done with in people's minds. They gave Trudeau a passing grade somehow for his actions during
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the COVID pandemic. People sense that it's over now and they want to move on to the economy and
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health. And I think that's where people are taking a step backwards and saying, you know,
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taking a close look at what the Liberals are offering. And that's probably the reason behind
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the Tory rise in the polls. Whether they stay that way remains to be seen.
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Corey, O'Toole's been behind in the polls since the very first day he became leader. He never even
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got that bounce that you normally get when the party has a new leader. People are all excited.
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They don't know how bad the leader actually is yet. They're projecting good things onto them.
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There's now two polls showing he's actually within striking distance, although with inefficient
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seat count with concentration in the West, that still probably translates to getting
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Remember last time Andrew Scheer got, I don't know, what was it, 35% or so, something in
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that neighbourhood, beat the Liberals handedly in the popular vote, but they still got trounced
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in the seat count because all their support's concentrated in the West, and also the West
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gets left seats relative to his population anyway.
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But then we've also got nails out showing that, I mean,
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the Tories are going to get absolutely trounced.
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Which side is right, and do you see much movement as we get into a campaign?
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I mean, perhaps that popular vote is rising up.
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Some of the undecideds in the West are saying yes.
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But, as you said, it's all about where your votes are concentrated.
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I mean, you could have 90% support in the West.
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If you don't win Ontario and Quebec, you're not going to form government,
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Because that recent one, the Nanos one, I believe,
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that was more of the breakdown, looking at the regional seats and so on.
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So seat projections, which look dire and terrible
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I mean, still, any sort of movement on the part of the Conservatives going up.
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I mean, as you said, since he's winning the leadership,
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If it can show a little bit of momentum, I mean, they've got to welcome it.
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There's no doubt there's an election coming within the next couple of months.
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He doesn't have much time to hustle and try and turn that around.
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I mean, you know, it's prior to your time, but getting way back to Kim Campbell's doomed run,
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she came in high in the polls and coming off of the highest majority in Canadian history, I believe,
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and finished with two seats by the time that campaign was done.
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Well, I mean, she did have a pretty good post when she became leader,
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but she had taken over from Brian Moore Rooney.
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And he was in the single post. People had just said,
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That bump in the post she had was about a couple of weeks.
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And then she went from probably on her way to at least a minority government
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to the biggest defeat of any party in the history of the democratic world.
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And the main point is just that during that campaign period, though, a lot of stuff can change really radically.
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I'm sure we'll have those, which are always sort of not great in Canada because there's too many people on stage.
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But, you know, election gaffes, social media, you know, plenty of time for both parties to screw up.
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You know, O'Toole could get caught wearing blackface, and he'll win, he'll become prime minister.
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I suspect the blackface, there's a certain side of the spectrum you've got to be on to get away with that one, apparently.
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We're going to come to the balanced budgets in a bit, but let's just segue from there.
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Prime Minister Blackface is going to be doing some kind of video.
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Dave, you've got a story on this. Why don't you tell us what's going on?
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Yeah, it's a hypocrisy with a capital H, Derek.
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We'll all remember Trudeau appearing at least three times in Blackface.
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He says he can't remember how many times he did it.
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I think it's a quote for more than three times.
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But at the end of it, he apologized, said he didn't know he was being stupid.
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He was just a young drama teacher and said it's very bad to do.
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So now, just before the election, Heritage Canada has come out with a $110,000 YouTube video on slavery, set to go August 4th, live on your TVs.
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It's a documentary basically focusing on the anniversary of the British abolition of slavery, and our favorite blackface Prime Minister actually has the gall to be the narrator.
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I think he's going to try to do a Morgan Freeman voice.
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that would be good that would be good or maybe affect an urban black accent oh
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man I'm just so I mean come on you know you know that Monday Night Football
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thing where they say come on man this is come on man Trudeau narrating a video on
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slavery mr. blackface himself he he's been black many times he understands how
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that ethnic group is you know certainly suffering from the persecution that's
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for sure Cory good idea okay your Trudeau's advisor you're you're the next
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girl box and you're sitting around and this idea comes across the desk and
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And I'm Justin Trudeau, I'm looking at you in blackface, and I say, good idea or bad idea, should I do this documentary?
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Justin, I've got somewhere you've got to go on that day, I'm sorry, it's all tied up.
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We're going to find somebody from the caucus who can speak perhaps a little better to this.
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You know, we've got a bridesmaids gathering you can go kiss or something, and just get Justin away from that.
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I mean, this is just brutal, but, I mean, he's the epitome of privilege.
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I mean, you know, he was a trust fund baby, his father was the prime minister, and he can't help that.
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That's fair enough, you're born into it, but I mean, that's what led to his non-thinking of making a parlor trick out of dressing in blackface.
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And to put that imbecile on, to speak to slavery when he's had a life of such coddled luxury, he's just the last person in this country who should be speaking to it.
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I've never seen you this speechless about a topic before.
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It will be his sultry tones that you hear talking about the history of slavery.
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Let's be fair, maybe he's going to use it as an educational experience and, you know, that might prevent him from doing a blackface in the future.
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Well, this is also, there's actually a bit of an abuse of power in this that hasn't been picked up on as an angle.
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Heritage Canada is a department. It is not a political arm of the government, in theory, at least.
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It's not the minister's office. It's a department.
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And when it puts out material, it's supposed to be, you know, I remember these, remember the Heritage Minutes?
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I mean, some of them were really crappy and hokey, but some of them were pretty good.
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And there's a couple, I think, that we should restart them.
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Like, one, I think, would be Jean-Claude Jean-Claude Chocin, that guy.
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As we talked about earlier, August 15th is the holiday deadline for the liberals to go into the election.
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So what is the Heritage Department doing, basically giving the prime minister a free platform?
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but I don't think I have anything else to talk about.
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getting a little beyond the humorous aspect of it anybody else i mean in that role literally
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anyone multiple times you know i mean lied about it the first time he was caught and said that's
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it that's all until two more popped up well okay except for those ones so i i mean when we're
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talking about the polls turning in that and him doing something that seems so counterintuitive
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and stupid is have him do it a video on slavery it might work for them you know it's not black
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face is trans-racial. And he identifies as black some day. So, I mean, that's his decision,
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and we have to respect him. We have to respect his decision to identify as black when he
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gets drunk. Well, and, you know, I did put a, you know, a little revealing picture out
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on Twitter the other day of myself dressing for a costume party. Oh, loincloth. Yes.
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But most of what my point was making was I did stupid, odd, bizarre things.
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Well, I still do occasionally, but not like that one.
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But even then, never for a second did I think, I'm going to get some shoe polish and blacken up for this.
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It didn't, even in the early 90s, you know, that excuse with Trudeau, like what?
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But blackface was considered bad in the 60s, for crying out loud, much less in the 2000s.
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Yet again, he does have Teflon, because the makeup slid off, and so did the stigma.
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He was a teacher at multiple schools while he was doing blackface as a regular thing he would do.
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We all knew, like, I grew up, you know, I was a kid in the 90s and the early, early 2000s.
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high school. It would have never dawned on me. And I did all sorts of, I dressed up as
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Colonel Gaddafi for Halloween, but I didn't darken myself. I wore a wig, but, you know,
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it would never occur to me. It's just a line you just don't do. It's actually a subculture
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of certain elites in overall North America. And it particularly applies just, I think,
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within kind of liberal, bougie circles where, oh, I can do it because I can't possibly be
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I'll make it back to that privilege, that world he's in, that separate one.
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But in fact, the fact that the electorate keeps giving him a pass on it, as I said,
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Well, let's come back to other, I guess, more substantive federal issues.
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Trudeau and O'Toole, they're dueling balanced budget plans.
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I mean, you don't even have a theoretical promise.
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Well, let's start with Trudeau's plan and then we'll go to O'Toole's.
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I wonder, tell us what the Parliamentary Budget Officer said about Trudeau's plan.
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This comes from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and their friend Franco Teresana.
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They crunched the numbers from recent PBO releases and said the budget will not be balanced until 2070, 2070.
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So, after all, everybody on this panel will be well dead, and probably a lot of our listeners.
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So that's if the Liberals continue their current way.
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You remember Trudeau's election promises that the budget will balance itself.
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We no more need to get into that mockery again because it's obviously that they don't.
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They've been on a spending spree through COVID.
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The CTF figures by 2070, the interest just on what we owe will be $3 trillion a year.
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an incredible figure I mean just imagine how many schools and nurses and doctors and and police
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officers that could fund so your other alternative is the Erin O'Toole and the conservative party who
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says we don't need 2017 we can do it by 2030 we can do it in just a decade and as you'll explain
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Derek a decade is basically three majority conservative terms which hasn't happened in a
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long time so it's you know when it actually happens it's anybody's guess
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but we'll long be dead and our grandchildren may be middle-aged yeah
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so okay so yeah Trudeau's not even got a theoretical plan it's just kind of out
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there and that's assuming they don't increase spending any further that's
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just based on current current and you believe that Justin Trudeau is not going
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increase spending any further I got a bridge to sell you or I can try to convince you of the
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conservative plan so Aaron O'Toole says I'm a tough fiscal conservative I'm true blue but I need 10
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years to balance the budget 10 years so each if you have a majority government you get four years
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that is three majority governments the last conservative leader in Canada to have three
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consecutive majority governments, or three majority governments, period, not even
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consecutive, was Sir John A. Macdonald. There is not a person alive
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Erno Toole is going to just light everyone on fire with his incredible charisma
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and win a smashing majority government, and then he's going to do it again, and then he's
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going to do it again, and he's going to balance the budget.
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and then every year it goes out and out and out
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Trudeau the first never got to a balanced budget
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he paid more lip service to it than Pierre Trudeau
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he had two majority he promised to do it one term
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he didn't even do it with two and his second term he extended actually to five years
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and kind of an extraordinary move that they have the constitutional right to do
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even though it's not usual you know here in Alberta you had
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Ed Stelmack with his balanced budget plan he never got there
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Prentice definitely never got there he was gone pretty quick
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uh jason kenney it remains to be seen i mean i mean oil is doing really good i mean it's possible
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maybe he does it but he's running the biggest deficits in alberta history yeah there's never
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been bigger provincial deficits in alberta's history by far but i mean maybe oil bills met
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at the end of the day hard hard to say so far but this is a very try and true strategy where
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you pay lip service to a balanced budget and you never actually get there because it's so far up
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Corey, what do you think the chances are that Aaron O'Toole can win three majority governments?
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I doubt he's going to win one minority government.
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You know, high spending, lack of foresight is in.
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If he came out with an austerity campaign to say, you know what?
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Because you know what nobody's talking about is cutting.
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At best, when they're talking about pursuing a balanced budget, they're trying to find more revenue tools.
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They're talking about the other areas where they're going to tax.
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Because their focus groups are saying that's what people want.
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They're doing it because they see if he came out and said, I'm going to cut this, this, this, and this, he's not going to get elected.
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And I'm afraid it's going to take a wake-up call on the part of the electorate more than on the politicians before this changes.
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you said even if we got the conservatives it's just the same training it's just going maybe a
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little slower and eventually we've got a crash i mean it's it's just math but you know and we
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crashed in the early 90s when i mean it pains me to say this it's not something i want to say
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but jean chretien was the best physical conservative prime minister in canada since
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um sir wilfrid laurier and that that pains me to say it because i don't like jean chretien i remember
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you know where i grew up we were supposed to hate him we didn't like him but i mean god i would take
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him over stephen harbour when it comes to budgets though was that also you're coming off of the 80s
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and into the 90s and you had those double digit interest rates like the amount of interest we
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were paying on debt even the most you know lay person in economics could look and say holy cow
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look at all this money going out so that's where suddenly mike harris and ralph klein i mean it was
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in to finally balance your budget romano yeah so we aren't feeling it yet it's not until the
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electorate really feels that kick in the butt unfortunately before we see the will to change
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and i don't see it but you know yeah one of the big changes in the early 90s was yes the creditors
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were calling their loans in and we were facing a genuine crisis but you also had a change in
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political climate you had some people with balls you had press demanding in the reform party
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You had groups at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the Fraser Institute were really catching
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on with people, breaking through, and you had political leadership, as I said, with
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And Manning never got to be Prime Minister, but a lot of his agenda was at least partially
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He was definitely influencing the politics in Ottawa.
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And Aaron O'Toole does not seem to have the stones to stay by anything conservative to
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His goal is to chase the centre, and that almost always fails, because everyone else—because
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If that worked, we'd have had an Alberta Party government five years ago.
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I guess one of the questions is, what are the Liberals going to do about it?
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So your income tax is likely to get raised, and then they're talking about a wealth tax.
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Okay, well that doesn't affect anybody at this table.
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You've got to be over, you know, making over $5 million, but the wealthy won't be
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well we can live in hope but the inheritance tax that could be huge when they start taxing
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inheritances i think that's when when cory says the electorate's going to start to stand up and
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take notice equity tax you've worked your entire life to build to get a house and it's doubled in
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value and the feds are going to come in and take 50 of that that's going to get people upset so
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So we're moving slowly, inexorably, whatever the word is, towards desperate times.
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And when desperate times, there's going to be desperate measures.
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And these are all coming down the pipe, I think.
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Pamela Jones-Kenny says, Gretchen over Harper, are you nuts?
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Not because I was in high school and elementary school while he was Prime Minister.
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Jean Chrétien massively cut spending in the 1995 budget,
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took Canada's deficits from Banana Republic Greece level to massive surpluses.
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And he did it without very significant increases in taxes.
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And I think he was an unethical prime minister.
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But where he got it right was with the budget and his finance minister at the time, Paul Martin.
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And I hate to say it, because Stephen Harper was the great hope for many of us who believe in these things.
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And Stephen Harper, until Justin Trudeau, ran the biggest deficits in Canadian history.
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Stephen Harper borrowed more money to fight the 2009 recession than we borrowed to fight the First and Second World Wars combined.
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So Stephen Harper, and I don't necessarily blame him, I just don't think you can have a conservative government in Canada.
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I think the East is so fundamentally locked into their worldview of government that that's a necessary thing to win and retain power.
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I don't think there is such a thing as a good federal government in Canada.
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But I'd like the Conservatives to at least try.
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That's all I'm asking of O'Toole here, is that he at least tries.
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Don't tell us you have a balanced budget plan if you don't have a balanced budget plan.
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Ten years is even more ridiculous than, remember, Justin Trudeau said when he was first in the campaign leading up to him being first elected prime minister in 2015,
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he said, I'm just going to run a small temporary deficit.
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Well, that's a plan that if you believed, again, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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And equally, if you believe Aaron O'Toole's plan that he can do this in ten years, well, you may as well have voted for Trudeau as well.
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O'Toole's promise of 10 years is even more liberal than Justin Trudeau's promise of just a small little budget.
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Don't forget that O'Toole also promised he'd never bring in a carbon tax.
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O'Toole is proposing a carbon tax that is even worse than Justin Trudeau's now.
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You can be conservative in your ideology or your worldview.
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but don't be unquestioningly conservative in how you vote.
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consider not voting conservative if they aren't being conservatives.
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Your party label does not define their beliefs.
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So I think it's important for conservative voters,
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conservative members out there to hold their own party accountable,
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and demand that they at least live up to the things they campaigned on.
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can we talk about something happier now like communism communism but it's communism in the
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sun i mean that is true and you get free medicare if i'm if i'm gonna live in communism i prefer
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cuba over siberia like the point i mean not all communists are created equal so uh okay let's go
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The Trudeaus, long-time fans and friends of the Castro communist regime in Cuba, the federal
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government now issued a statement for its diplomats around the world, Dave you've got
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Yes, and don't forget that years ago Trudeaus said he admired communism in China as his
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favorite government because they can get stuff done so fast forward to 2021 when the uh canadian
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diplomats put together a briefing paper for foreign minister mark garneau it was to be a big uh
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communist con congress in in cuba so they were giving him the dope on on that and they praised
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cuba to high heaven saying they're starting to come around they're offering uh greater free speech
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And this was, of course, literally weeks before COVID came.
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And, of course, everything went out the window with COVID and the communists.
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They're now rounding up people, throwing them in jail.
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Street protesters are being hauled in and jailed without trial.
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Even Amnesty International is getting on their cases.
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But, you know, the diplomats say, well, you know, we wrote this before COVID and COVID changed everything.
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But, you know, even without COVID, it was still a communist country.
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They're still limiting their citizens' freedoms.
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But that didn't stop Canadian diplomats from singing their praises.
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I know what they call Global Affairs Canada, which we used to call Foreign Affairs,
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they didn't mention authoritarianism or totalitarianism
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They wanted food and freedom. Food and freedom is what they want. Not a mention of this.
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The Trudeau government's statement on it actually called for quote,
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restraint on both sides, as if these protesters are holding the government hostage,
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that they're oppressing the poor government. I don't know. Corey, do you think there's
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any political hate that's going to come out of this or is it just kind of baked into the political
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price in Canada that the liberals support the Cuban Communist Party and have I mean we've seen
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the pictures of Margaret and Justin and Fidel and whatever relationship they had and and uh
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purely Pierre no read in what you will uh and Pierre would you know occasionally would pop
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down and such too but I mean that blind spot with communism and you know it's repugnant it's
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sickening I mean this is something Cuba's one of the last bastions of a disgusting system that
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killed tens of millions of people throughout the 20th century there should be absolutely no sugar
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coating that gross oppressive totalitarian system I mean Castro pushed his people down he was a
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dictator he was a totalitarian they had the people locked up and I mean again for progressives they
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Or look at some of the quotes of Che Guevara on black people.
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The people, the ones who have to live in it.
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It's all these liberals, these ivory tower academics
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But those damn ingrate citizens down there
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just don't seem to know how good they've got it
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because they keep trying to swim to Miami on rickety rafts
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Well, there's tons of people getting on rafts, fleeing Miami,
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Sure, how many people are crossing into North Korea as well?
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Cuba has great potential, and the people there have had enough.
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They're protesting against the system and the government
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You don't want to wade into the middle of that.
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But don't be unsupportive of the citizens standing up for themselves.
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They're standing up against a system that's done nothing but hurt them for generations.
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And it's just an embarrassment that Canada can't find its balls in the Foreign Service
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to call out on these badass countries out there.
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You know, I've been planning a winter vacation.
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I haven't taken a winter vacation in some time.
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And, you know, a lot of people tell me how beautiful Cuba is.
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But, you know, part of me is slowly letting me a little bit of my guard down, thinking, well, the communists aren't going to go make our peace with them and whatnot.
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But then you see this, and then you see the disgusting reaction of Canada's federal government that is probably actually, outside of Venezuela, Canada is the closest ally of Cuba's communist regime, after only Venezuela, which is also a communist regime.
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I mean, I'm going to go to its neighbor, probably Dominican or Mexico, something in the area.
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I'll go pretty much anywhere, other than Siberia.
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So, yeah, if you're thinking about your winter vacation, please consider not giving your money to the communist regime in Cuba.
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If we want that government to fall, it can't be supported by an influx of largely Canadian money.
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Canada is by far the largest tourism source for Cuba, and that is their biggest source of revenue for that government,
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So, well, let's wrap it up there on a nice, sunny Cuban note.
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