Western Standard - July 22, 2021


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Join Western Standard editor-in-chief Dave Naylor and editor-at-large Derek Fildebrand as they discuss Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's not-so-balanced budget plan for the upcoming federal election, the legacy of Prime Minister Blackface, and the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights.

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00:01:00.000 Hi. Welcome to The Pipeline. I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
00:01:22.460 today is july 2021 i'm joined today by western news editor dave naylor dave how are you feeling
00:01:32.060 well you know i'm uh battling this bc smoke feels like i've already smoked a pack today
00:01:37.340 but they're not doing great i think bc would be a little more upset than we are
00:01:42.860 we were blowing this smoke at them well you know almost an annual event now isn't it
00:01:47.500 it's just kind of a part of the weather plan plan uh we've got about a month of fall you know
00:01:54.620 most of the year's winter brief spring a really brief summer and then smoke season yes yeah uh
00:02:00.780 cory cory morgan uh host of the cory morgan show and a political columnist how you doing cory very
00:02:06.940 good uh well today we've got a great show we've got uh a federal election almost certainly coming
00:02:14.380 We're going to be talking about how the different major parties look going into that.
00:02:19.720 We've got dueling, not-so-balanced budget plans from Justin Trudeau versus Aaron O'Toole.
00:02:26.460 One is asking for a political lifetime to balance the budget.
00:02:31.240 The other one is asking for an actual full-length human lifetime to balance the budget.
00:02:36.620 Speaking of Prime Minister Blackface, he'll be participating in a video or a history of some sorts.
00:02:43.060 dave will have the details on that about on uh on african canadians uh he is one himself
00:02:54.100 uh he really speaks from personal experience this is what they call lived experience uh justin
00:02:59.620 trudeau has been black himself multiple times in the past so we'll be speaking about his in-depth
00:03:05.220 knowledge on the subject uh and and speaking of of legacies uh his own father's legacy continuing
00:03:12.660 on well in the federal government uh canada's federal government praising cuba's communists
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00:06:47.780 Well, let's turn our attention to Canadian federal politics. I like to ignore them
00:06:53.780 as much as I possibly can, but, you know, Ottawa still exists, and we have to deal with it.
00:07:00.100 Federal election coming, we've got different polls out. I know there's a Nanos one we just
00:07:07.220 briefly saw before we came on, but there's some other ones that you've reported on, Dave.
00:07:10.260 why don't you give us the skinny sure it's the worst the worst kept secret in the country that
00:07:16.100 we're bound for an election very soon liberal staffers have been told to wrap up all their
00:07:21.220 holidays by august 15th so that's being all signs to point to a election around the end of around
00:07:29.140 the end of september since erin o'toole took over the conservative party they've been in the tank
00:07:34.020 poll was, trailing the Liberals by sometimes more than 10 figures, basically led by O'Toole's
00:07:42.660 personal unpopularity, Derek. But now there's a poll out that we reported on this week from
00:07:50.180 Angus Reid showing that they're in a statistical tie. The hatred for O'Toole has grown to an
00:08:00.420 all-time high. 58% of people don't like him, which is a huge figure, but statistically they're now
00:08:07.020 tied with the liberals. And the pollsters say the reason for this is because COVID is basically over
00:08:13.600 and done with in people's minds. They gave Trudeau a passing grade somehow for his actions during
00:08:21.320 the COVID pandemic. People sense that it's over now and they want to move on to the economy and
00:08:27.440 health. And I think that's where people are taking a step backwards and saying, you know,
00:08:32.020 taking a close look at what the Liberals are offering. And that's probably the reason behind
00:08:36.900 the Tory rise in the polls. Whether they stay that way remains to be seen.
00:08:43.080 Corey, O'Toole's been behind in the polls since the very first day he became leader. He never even
00:08:48.200 got that bounce that you normally get when the party has a new leader. People are all excited.
00:08:51.860 They don't know how bad the leader actually is yet. They're projecting good things onto them.
00:08:55.320 He never got that bump.
00:08:57.640 There's now two polls showing he's actually within striking distance, although with inefficient
00:09:02.440 seat count with concentration in the West, that still probably translates to getting
00:09:06.360 their asses kicked. 0.80
00:09:07.360 Remember last time Andrew Scheer got, I don't know, what was it, 35% or so, something in
00:09:14.820 that neighbourhood, beat the Liberals handedly in the popular vote, but they still got trounced
00:09:19.200 in the seat count because all their support's concentrated in the West, and also the West
00:09:23.200 gets left seats relative to his population anyway.
00:09:28.080 But then we've also got nails out showing that, I mean,
00:09:32.160 the Tories are going to get absolutely trounced.
00:09:34.060 They're going to lose seats.
00:09:35.100 Trudeau's going to get a thumping majority.
00:09:38.400 I don't know.
00:09:39.540 What's your sense?
00:09:40.320 Which side is right, and do you see much movement as we get into a campaign?
00:09:45.800 Possibly a bit of both is right.
00:09:48.240 I mean, perhaps that popular vote is rising up.
00:09:50.360 Some of the undecideds in the West are saying yes.
00:09:53.200 But, as you said, it's all about where your votes are concentrated.
00:09:57.900 I mean, you could have 90% support in the West.
00:09:59.860 It doesn't matter.
00:10:00.780 If you don't win Ontario and Quebec, you're not going to form government,
00:10:04.160 and that's been the ongoing issue.
00:10:05.980 Because that recent one, the Nanos one, I believe,
00:10:08.680 that was more of the breakdown, looking at the regional seats and so on.
00:10:11.380 So seat projections, which look dire and terrible
00:10:13.980 with the way that vote concentration is going.
00:10:16.360 I mean, still, any sort of movement on the part of the Conservatives going up.
00:10:19.380 I mean, as you said, since he's winning the leadership,
00:10:21.220 He's been just stagnant and sitting there.
00:10:23.620 If it can show a little bit of momentum, I mean, they've got to welcome it.
00:10:28.100 There's no doubt there's an election coming within the next couple of months.
00:10:30.600 He doesn't have much time to hustle and try and turn that around.
00:10:33.040 But election periods are volatile.
00:10:35.420 I mean, you know, it's prior to your time, but getting way back to Kim Campbell's doomed run,
00:10:41.040 she came in high in the polls and coming off of the highest majority in Canadian history, I believe,
00:10:46.060 and finished with two seats by the time that campaign was done.
00:10:49.180 So things can change. We'll see.
00:10:53.280 Well, I mean, she did have a pretty good post when she became leader,
00:10:57.060 but she had taken over from Brian Moore Rooney.
00:10:58.840 It was an exceptional circumstance.
00:10:59.900 And he was in the single post. People had just said,
00:11:03.000 ah, new leader, let's give him a chance.
00:11:05.020 That bump in the post she had was about a couple of weeks.
00:11:08.600 And then she went from probably on her way to at least a minority government 1.00
00:11:12.620 to the biggest defeat of any party in the history of the democratic world.
00:11:17.040 And the main point is just that during that campaign period, though, a lot of stuff can change really radically.
00:11:21.800 Yeah, don't forget the debates, too.
00:11:24.040 I'm sure we'll have those, which are always sort of not great in Canada because there's too many people on stage.
00:11:30.640 But, you know, election gaffes, social media, you know, plenty of time for both parties to screw up.
00:11:38.700 You know, O'Toole could get caught wearing blackface, and he'll win, he'll become prime minister. 0.93
00:11:46.140 That could be the case.
00:11:47.320 That's a prerequisite now.
00:11:49.280 I suspect the blackface, there's a certain side of the spectrum you've got to be on to get away with that one, apparently. 1.00
00:11:55.300 Well, you know, that's just a heck of a segue.
00:11:57.540 We're going to come to the balanced budgets in a bit, but let's just segue from there.
00:12:01.220 Prime Minister Blackface is going to be doing some kind of video.
00:12:06.320 Dave, you've got a story on this. Why don't you tell us what's going on?
00:12:09.220 Yeah, it's a hypocrisy with a capital H, Derek.
00:12:12.420 We'll all remember Trudeau appearing at least three times in Blackface.
00:12:17.360 He says he can't remember how many times he did it.
00:12:20.780 But when he was finally exposed...
00:12:22.860 That's a quote for more than three times.
00:12:23.780 I think it's a quote for more than three times.
00:12:26.000 But at the end of it, he apologized, said he didn't know he was being stupid.
00:12:30.880 He was just a young drama teacher and said it's very bad to do.
00:12:36.400 So now, just before the election, Heritage Canada has come out with a $110,000 YouTube video on slavery, set to go August 4th, live on your TVs.
00:12:49.340 It's a documentary basically focusing on the anniversary of the British abolition of slavery, and our favorite blackface Prime Minister actually has the gall to be the narrator. 0.73
00:13:02.660 I think he's going to try to do a Morgan Freeman voice.
00:13:05.180 that would be good that would be good or maybe affect an urban black accent oh
00:13:14.300 man I'm just so I mean come on you know you know that Monday Night Football
00:13:20.300 thing where they say come on man this is come on man Trudeau narrating a video on
00:13:26.960 slavery mr. blackface himself he he's been black many times he understands how
00:13:35.400 that ethnic group is you know certainly suffering from the persecution that's
00:13:41.540 for sure Cory good idea okay your Trudeau's advisor you're you're the next
00:13:51.560 girl box and you're sitting around and this idea comes across the desk and
00:13:56.360 And I'm Justin Trudeau, I'm looking at you in blackface, and I say, good idea or bad idea, should I do this documentary? 0.97
00:14:05.640 Justin, I've got somewhere you've got to go on that day, I'm sorry, it's all tied up.
00:14:09.060 We're going to find somebody from the caucus who can speak perhaps a little better to this.
00:14:14.380 You know, we've got a bridesmaids gathering you can go kiss or something, and just get Justin away from that.
00:14:20.220 I mean, this is just brutal, but, I mean, he's the epitome of privilege.
00:14:23.660 I mean, you know, he was a trust fund baby, his father was the prime minister, and he can't help that.
00:14:28.900 That's fair enough, you're born into it, but I mean, that's what led to his non-thinking of making a parlor trick out of dressing in blackface.
00:14:36.980 And to put that imbecile on, to speak to slavery when he's had a life of such coddled luxury, he's just the last person in this country who should be speaking to it.
00:14:48.200 So, carry on, liberals, carry on.
00:14:50.760 Dave, I don't know what we can say.
00:14:55.760 You're speechless.
00:14:56.760 I've never seen you this speechless about a topic before.
00:15:00.760 It's rare.
00:15:03.760 So he's narrating this thing?
00:15:05.760 He is the narrator.
00:15:06.760 He's the narrator.
00:15:07.760 It will be his sultry tones that you hear talking about the history of slavery.
00:15:13.760 Okay.
00:15:16.760 Let's be fair, maybe he's going to use it as an educational experience and, you know, that might prevent him from doing a blackface in the future. 0.87
00:15:25.860 Well, this is also, there's actually a bit of an abuse of power in this that hasn't been picked up on as an angle.
00:15:31.860 Heritage Canada is a department. It is not a political arm of the government, in theory, at least.
00:15:39.480 It's not the minister's office. It's a department.
00:15:41.480 And when it puts out material, it's supposed to be, you know, I remember these, remember the Heritage Minutes?
00:15:47.660 Yes.
00:15:48.160 And that was the part.
00:15:49.660 I mean, some of them were really crappy and hokey, but some of them were pretty good.
00:15:54.720 I remember, it was part of our Heritage.
00:15:56.860 And there's a couple, I think, that we should restart them.
00:15:59.500 Like, one, I think, would be Jean-Claude Jean-Claude Chocin, that guy.
00:16:03.180 The Schwinigan Strangler, that was beautiful.
00:16:04.880 The Schwinigan Shake.
00:16:05.740 That was the high point of his prime minister.
00:16:07.840 I thought that was great.
00:16:08.220 Yeah, everybody liked him to that.
00:16:10.020 The guy's really being killed.
00:16:11.480 But you do make a good point.
00:16:16.400 This is coming out right before the election.
00:16:19.080 August 4th is the world premiere on YouTube.
00:16:22.540 Make sure you've got your popcorn ready.
00:16:24.400 August 4th.
00:16:25.560 As we talked about earlier, August 15th is the holiday deadline for the liberals to go into the election.
00:16:31.480 So it will be within weeks.
00:16:33.920 So what is the Heritage Department doing, basically giving the prime minister a free platform?
00:16:39.660 you know, certainly questions should be asked.
00:16:44.660 I'm told that my sound is still not very good.
00:16:48.660 So the men with the sound board in the back,
00:16:52.660 if you can make this sound less terrible.
00:16:55.660 Okay, well, I don't know.
00:16:57.660 We could just make fun of this all day,
00:16:59.660 but I don't think I have anything else to talk about.
00:17:01.660 Like I said, it still is just so striking.
00:17:04.660 It really is.
00:17:05.660 The cancel culture we're in today, though,
00:17:08.660 getting a little beyond the humorous aspect of it anybody else i mean in that role literally
00:17:15.220 anyone multiple times you know i mean lied about it the first time he was caught and said that's
00:17:19.780 it that's all until two more popped up well okay except for those ones so i i mean when we're
00:17:25.220 talking about the polls turning in that and him doing something that seems so counterintuitive
00:17:29.060 and stupid is have him do it a video on slavery it might work for them you know it's not black 0.94
00:17:35.780 face is trans-racial. And he identifies as black some day. So, I mean, that's his decision, 0.87
00:17:44.320 and we have to respect him. We have to respect his decision to identify as black when he
00:17:51.820 gets drunk. Well, and, you know, I did put a, you know, a little revealing picture out
00:17:57.520 on Twitter the other day of myself dressing for a costume party. Oh, loincloth. Yes.
00:18:02.120 It was in a loincloth, ladies and gentlemen.
00:18:04.720 Parental advisory.
00:18:05.880 Did no one go to a Cory's lawyer account?
00:18:08.040 Nothing good can come from that.
00:18:09.240 No, probably not.
00:18:10.700 But most of what my point was making was I did stupid, odd, bizarre things.
00:18:16.660 Well, I still do occasionally, but not like that one.
00:18:18.940 Back in my drinking and youthful days.
00:18:20.600 But even then, never for a second did I think, I'm going to get some shoe polish and blacken up for this.
00:18:27.040 It didn't, even in the early 90s, you know, that excuse with Trudeau, like what?
00:18:30.640 But blackface was considered bad in the 60s, for crying out loud, much less in the 2000s.
00:18:37.500 Yet again, he does have Teflon, because the makeup slid off, and so did the stigma.
00:18:42.040 And I don't get it.
00:18:42.520 And also, he was not some stupid teenager.
00:18:44.820 He was a teacher.
00:18:46.380 He was a teacher at multiple schools while he was doing blackface as a regular thing he would do. 0.98
00:18:53.840 We all knew, like, I grew up, you know, I was a kid in the 90s and the early, early 2000s.
00:19:00.280 high school. It would have never dawned on me. And I did all sorts of, I dressed up as
00:19:04.460 Colonel Gaddafi for Halloween, but I didn't darken myself. I wore a wig, but, you know, 0.75
00:19:11.760 it would never occur to me. It's just a line you just don't do. It's actually a subculture
00:19:19.920 of certain elites in overall North America. And it particularly applies just, I think,
00:19:28.340 within kind of liberal, bougie circles where, oh, I can do it because I can't possibly be
00:19:35.040 racist because I'm a liberal.
00:19:36.500 I'll make it back to that privilege, that world he's in, that separate one.
00:19:40.780 But in fact, the fact that the electorate keeps giving him a pass on it, as I said,
00:19:43.940 maybe he's right.
00:19:45.460 That's distressing.
00:19:49.040 All right.
00:19:50.520 Well, let's come back to other, I guess, more substantive federal issues.
00:19:54.700 Trudeau and O'Toole, they're dueling balanced budget plans.
00:20:00.700 Trudeau has no plan whatsoever.
00:20:02.700 I mean, you don't even have a theoretical promise.
00:20:05.700 It's just not at all.
00:20:07.700 Parliamentary Budget Officer today.
00:20:09.700 Well, let's start with Trudeau's plan and then we'll go to O'Toole's.
00:20:12.700 I wonder, tell us what the Parliamentary Budget Officer said about Trudeau's plan.
00:20:16.700 This comes from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and their friend Franco Teresana.
00:20:22.700 They crunched the numbers from recent PBO releases and said the budget will not be balanced until 2070, 2070.
00:20:35.700 Oh, I thought you said 70 years.
00:20:37.700 No, 2070, but it's 50 years.
00:20:41.700 Okay.
00:20:42.700 So, after all, everybody on this panel will be well dead, and probably a lot of our listeners.
00:20:49.700 So that's if the Liberals continue their current way.
00:20:53.280 You remember Trudeau's election promises that the budget will balance itself.
00:20:58.900 We no more need to get into that mockery again because it's obviously that they don't.
00:21:05.200 They've been on a spending spree through COVID.
00:21:07.980 We now owe more than a trillion dollars.
00:21:11.180 The CTF figures by 2070, the interest just on what we owe will be $3 trillion a year.
00:21:19.240 an incredible figure I mean just imagine how many schools and nurses and doctors and and police
00:21:25.720 officers that could fund so your other alternative is the Erin O'Toole and the conservative party who
00:21:33.160 says we don't need 2017 we can do it by 2030 we can do it in just a decade and as you'll explain
00:21:40.600 Derek a decade is basically three majority conservative terms which hasn't happened in a
00:21:46.900 long time so it's you know when it actually happens it's anybody's guess
00:21:56.260 but we'll long be dead and our grandchildren may be middle-aged yeah
00:22:02.560 so okay so yeah Trudeau's not even got a theoretical plan it's just kind of out
00:22:07.120 there and that's assuming they don't increase spending any further that's
00:22:09.820 just based on current current and you believe that Justin Trudeau is not going
00:22:15.580 increase spending any further I got a bridge to sell you or I can try to convince you of the
00:22:21.740 conservative plan so Aaron O'Toole says I'm a tough fiscal conservative I'm true blue but I need 10
00:22:30.240 years to balance the budget 10 years so each if you have a majority government you get four years
00:22:35.680 that is three majority governments the last conservative leader in Canada to have three
00:22:41.460 consecutive majority governments, or three majority governments, period, not even
00:22:44.940 consecutive, was Sir John A. Macdonald. There is not a person alive
00:22:49.720 on the planet today who is alive
00:22:52.700 while the prime minister. So the chances of
00:22:57.080 Erno Toole is going to just light everyone on fire with his incredible charisma
00:23:01.260 and win a smashing majority government, and then he's going to do it again, and then he's
00:23:05.540 going to do it again, and he's going to balance the budget.
00:23:07.980 this is the same kind of thing you saw
00:23:11.640 Pierre Trudeau used to say the same thing
00:23:13.960 oh well you know things have happened
00:23:16.460 it's tough it's not my fault
00:23:17.880 I'm going to balance the budget
00:23:19.220 and he'll have some projection
00:23:20.960 at the end of the projection
00:23:22.140 they show this mythical balanced budget
00:23:24.140 and then every year it goes out and out and out
00:23:26.480 Trudeau obviously never got
00:23:28.860 Trudeau the first never got to a balanced budget
00:23:30.640 Brian Mulroney did the exact same thing
00:23:32.860 he paid more lip service to it than Pierre Trudeau
00:23:34.760 because he's conservative
00:23:35.720 he paid lip service to it at least
00:23:37.180 he had two majority he promised to do it one term
00:23:40.360 he didn't even do it with two and his second term he extended actually to five years
00:23:44.440 and kind of an extraordinary move that they have the constitutional right to do
00:23:48.420 even though it's not usual you know here in Alberta you had
00:23:52.640 Ed Stelmack with his balanced budget plan he never got there
00:23:56.540 Alison Redford with hers she never got there
00:23:59.440 Prentice definitely never got there he was gone pretty quick
00:24:03.560 Rachel Notley never got there
00:24:05.300 uh jason kenney it remains to be seen i mean i mean oil is doing really good i mean it's possible
00:24:11.300 maybe he does it but he's running the biggest deficits in alberta history yeah there's never
00:24:16.920 been bigger provincial deficits in alberta's history by far but i mean maybe oil bills met
00:24:21.280 at the end of the day hard hard to say so far but this is a very try and true strategy where
00:24:25.940 you pay lip service to a balanced budget and you never actually get there because it's so far up
00:24:30.380 But you could tell people, I have a plan.
00:24:33.160 Corey, what do you think the chances are that Aaron O'Toole can win three majority governments?
00:24:37.860 I doubt he's going to win one minority government.
00:24:41.400 But, I mean, again, look at the spot he's in.
00:24:43.660 You know, high spending, lack of foresight is in.
00:24:46.520 I mean, that's what people want to hear.
00:24:48.160 They want sunshine blowing up their butts.
00:24:49.880 If he came out with an austerity campaign to say, you know what?
00:24:54.080 Because you know what nobody's talking about is cutting.
00:24:56.760 Nobody's talking about cutting.
00:24:57.600 At best, when they're talking about pursuing a balanced budget, they're trying to find more revenue tools.
00:25:02.260 They're talking about the other areas where they're going to tax.
00:25:05.200 Why are they doing it?
00:25:06.220 Because their focus groups are saying that's what people want.
00:25:08.660 They're doing it because they see if he came out and said, I'm going to cut this, this, this, and this, he's not going to get elected.
00:25:16.020 And I'm afraid it's going to take a wake-up call on the part of the electorate more than on the politicians before this changes.
00:25:23.740 You know, Greece figured it out the hard way.
00:25:25.720 And I'm afraid we're on the same track.
00:25:27.600 you said even if we got the conservatives it's just the same training it's just going maybe a
00:25:30.720 little slower and eventually we've got a crash i mean it's it's just math but you know and we
00:25:36.560 crashed in the early 90s when i mean it pains me to say this it's not something i want to say
00:25:42.160 but jean chretien was the best physical conservative prime minister in canada since
00:25:47.840 um sir wilfrid laurier and that that pains me to say it because i don't like jean chretien i remember
00:25:54.480 you know where i grew up we were supposed to hate him we didn't like him but i mean god i would take
00:26:00.480 him over stephen harbour when it comes to budgets though was that also you're coming off of the 80s
00:26:06.080 and into the 90s and you had those double digit interest rates like the amount of interest we
00:26:09.920 were paying on debt even the most you know lay person in economics could look and say holy cow
00:26:15.440 look at all this money going out so that's where suddenly mike harris and ralph klein i mean it was
00:26:20.720 in to finally balance your budget romano yeah so we aren't feeling it yet it's not until the
00:26:28.240 electorate really feels that kick in the butt unfortunately before we see the will to change
00:26:32.320 and i don't see it but you know yeah one of the big changes in the early 90s was yes the creditors
00:26:38.320 were calling their loans in and we were facing a genuine crisis but you also had a change in
00:26:42.800 political climate you had some people with balls you had press demanding in the reform party
00:26:47.040 You had groups at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the Fraser Institute were really catching
00:26:52.720 on with people, breaking through, and you had political leadership, as I said, with
00:26:56.500 Preston Manning, getting people engaged.
00:26:59.120 And Manning never got to be Prime Minister, but a lot of his agenda was at least partially
00:27:02.900 enacted.
00:27:03.900 He was definitely influencing the politics in Ottawa.
00:27:07.100 And Aaron O'Toole does not seem to have the stones to stay by anything conservative to
00:27:13.520 bring...
00:27:14.520 His goal is to chase the centre, and that almost always fails, because everyone else—because
00:27:19.280 it's relative.
00:27:20.280 If that worked, we'd have had an Alberta Party government five years ago.
00:27:23.280 Yeah.
00:27:24.280 I guess one of the questions is, what are the Liberals going to do about it?
00:27:28.760 The only thing they can do is raise taxes.
00:27:31.240 So your income tax is likely to get raised, and then they're talking about a wealth tax.
00:27:36.240 Okay, well that doesn't affect anybody at this table.
00:27:38.600 You've got to be over, you know, making over $5 million, but the wealthy won't be
00:27:42.680 happy.
00:27:43.680 well we can live in hope but the inheritance tax that could be huge when they start taxing
00:27:50.240 inheritances i think that's when when cory says the electorate's going to start to stand up and
00:27:55.920 take notice equity tax you've worked your entire life to build to get a house and it's doubled in
00:28:02.760 value and the feds are going to come in and take 50 of that that's going to get people upset so
00:28:09.800 So we're moving slowly, inexorably, whatever the word is, towards desperate times.
00:28:18.600 And when desperate times, there's going to be desperate measures.
00:28:21.520 And these are all coming down the pipe, I think.
00:28:24.880 Pamela Jones-Kenny says, Gretchen over Harper, are you nuts? 1.00
00:28:30.160 I hate to say it.
00:28:32.020 I voted for Stephen Harper.
00:28:33.720 I never voted for John Gretchen.
00:28:35.480 Not because I was in high school and elementary school while he was Prime Minister.
00:28:38.720 But you've got to go based on the facts.
00:28:42.440 Jean Chrétien massively cut spending in the 1995 budget,
00:28:46.660 took Canada's deficits from Banana Republic Greece level to massive surpluses.
00:28:53.540 And he did it without very significant increases in taxes.
00:28:57.880 And I think he was an unethical prime minister.
00:29:00.380 I think he was terrible in all sorts of areas.
00:29:02.840 But where he got it right was with the budget and his finance minister at the time, Paul Martin.
00:29:08.720 And I hate to say it, because Stephen Harper was the great hope for many of us who believe in these things.
00:29:14.820 And Stephen Harper, until Justin Trudeau, ran the biggest deficits in Canadian history.
00:29:21.240 Stephen Harper borrowed more money to fight the 2009 recession than we borrowed to fight the First and Second World Wars combined.
00:29:31.140 So Stephen Harper, and I don't necessarily blame him, I just don't think you can have a conservative government in Canada.
00:29:36.180 I think the East is so fundamentally locked into their worldview of government that that's a necessary thing to win and retain power.
00:29:47.140 I don't think there is such a thing as a good federal government in Canada.
00:29:51.820 It doesn't really exist.
00:29:53.820 But I'd like the Conservatives to at least try.
00:29:57.620 That's all I'm asking of O'Toole here, is that he at least tries.
00:30:02.100 And just be honest.
00:30:03.700 Don't tell us you have a balanced budget plan if you don't have a balanced budget plan.
00:30:08.660 Ten years is even more ridiculous than, remember, Justin Trudeau said when he was first in the campaign leading up to him being first elected prime minister in 2015,
00:30:18.020 he said, I'm just going to run a small temporary deficit.
00:30:21.560 Well, that's a plan that if you believed, again, I've got a bridge to sell you.
00:30:26.780 And equally, if you believe Aaron O'Toole's plan that he can do this in ten years, well, you may as well have voted for Trudeau as well.
00:30:33.320 O'Toole's promise of 10 years is even more liberal than Justin Trudeau's promise of just a small little budget.
00:30:40.340 Remember Steve Humpern making fun of him.
00:30:42.080 Just a little tiny budget.
00:30:45.960 Don't forget that O'Toole also promised he'd never bring in a carbon tax.
00:30:50.580 And look where that's got us.
00:30:52.680 O'Toole is proposing a carbon tax that is even worse than Justin Trudeau's now.
00:30:57.500 So this is where I caution a lot of people.
00:31:00.200 You can be conservative in your ideology or your worldview.
00:31:03.320 but don't be unquestioningly conservative in how you vote.
00:31:08.600 Only if you're conservative in your worldview,
00:31:11.420 consider not voting conservative if they aren't being conservatives.
00:31:16.580 Your party label does not define their beliefs.
00:31:20.940 So I think it's important for conservative voters,
00:31:24.520 conservative members out there to hold their own party accountable,
00:31:28.040 hold their leaders accountable,
00:31:29.900 and demand that they at least live up to the things they campaigned on.
00:31:33.320 can we talk about something happier now like communism communism but it's communism in the
00:31:38.360 sun i mean that is true and you get free medicare if i'm if i'm gonna live in communism i prefer
00:31:44.680 cuba over siberia like the point i mean not all communists are created equal so uh okay let's go
00:31:53.800 The Trudeaus, long-time fans and friends of the Castro communist regime in Cuba, the federal
00:32:06.800 government now issued a statement for its diplomats around the world, Dave you've got
00:32:11.800 the story, tell us about it.
00:32:14.800 Yes, and don't forget that years ago Trudeaus said he admired communism in China as his
00:32:20.300 favorite government because they can get stuff done so fast forward to 2021 when the uh canadian
00:32:29.260 diplomats put together a briefing paper for foreign minister mark garneau it was to be a big uh
00:32:35.580 communist con congress in in cuba so they were giving him the dope on on that and they praised
00:32:42.860 cuba to high heaven saying they're starting to come around they're offering uh greater free speech
00:32:48.540 and, you know, more social programs.
00:32:52.280 And this was, of course, literally weeks before COVID came.
00:32:56.520 And, of course, everything went out the window with COVID and the communists.
00:33:00.280 They're now rounding up people, throwing them in jail.
00:33:03.460 Street protesters are being hauled in and jailed without trial.
00:33:09.520 The Internet has been shut down.
00:33:12.260 Even Amnesty International is getting on their cases.
00:33:15.880 But, you know, the diplomats say, well, you know, we wrote this before COVID and COVID changed everything.
00:33:23.320 But, you know, even without COVID, it was still a communist country.
00:33:28.180 They're still limiting their citizens' freedoms.
00:33:31.480 But that didn't stop Canadian diplomats from singing their praises.
00:33:36.980 It's not just the diplomats.
00:33:38.340 I know what they call Global Affairs Canada, which we used to call Foreign Affairs,
00:33:42.480 because we're so global
00:33:44.760 so global here
00:33:45.920 it's very metropolitan
00:33:49.100 or what's the term
00:33:50.780 anyway
00:33:52.000 the federal government's statement
00:33:55.180 when these anti-communist protests
00:33:57.480 broke out was hilarious
00:33:58.480 they never mentioned the word communism once
00:34:01.160 they didn't mention authoritarianism or totalitarianism
00:34:03.700 they just said
00:34:05.080 the people of Cuba are just demanding
00:34:07.560 more action on COVID
00:34:08.740 they wanted food
00:34:13.300 They wanted food and freedom. Food and freedom is what they want. Not a mention of this.
00:34:20.420 The Trudeau government's statement on it actually called for quote,
00:34:24.340 restraint on both sides, as if these protesters are holding the government hostage,
00:34:30.020 that they're oppressing the poor government. I don't know. Corey, do you think there's
00:34:37.700 any political hate that's going to come out of this or is it just kind of baked into the political
00:34:43.240 price in Canada that the liberals support the Cuban Communist Party and have I mean we've seen
00:34:49.600 the pictures of Margaret and Justin and Fidel and whatever relationship they had and and uh
00:34:56.040 purely Pierre no read in what you will uh and Pierre would you know occasionally would pop
00:35:03.900 down and such too but I mean that blind spot with communism and you know it's repugnant it's
00:35:08.740 sickening I mean this is something Cuba's one of the last bastions of a disgusting system that 0.99
00:35:14.260 killed tens of millions of people throughout the 20th century there should be absolutely no sugar
00:35:20.240 coating that gross oppressive totalitarian system I mean Castro pushed his people down he was a
00:35:29.040 dictator he was a totalitarian they had the people locked up and I mean again for progressives they
00:35:33.880 They weren't nice to gay people.
00:35:35.660 Or look at some of the quotes of Che Guevara on black people.
00:35:38.740 These guys were sick, nasty dictators.
00:35:41.240 It's time to call them out.
00:35:42.580 And the people are standing up.
00:35:43.920 The people, the ones who have to live in it. 1.00
00:35:45.720 And that's what really gets me.
00:35:46.640 It's all these liberals, these ivory tower academics
00:35:50.240 talking about how great Cuba is.
00:35:52.120 But those damn ingrate citizens down there 1.00
00:35:54.040 just don't seem to know how good they've got it
00:35:55.980 because they keep trying to swim to Miami on rickety rafts
00:35:59.000 and such and get the hell away from them. 1.00
00:36:00.160 Well, there's tons of people getting on rafts, fleeing Miami,
00:36:02.880 fleeing capitalism in Miami going to Cuba.
00:36:05.380 Sure, how many people are crossing into North Korea as well?
00:36:08.620 We've got to call this out.
00:36:10.180 Cuba has great potential, and the people there have had enough.
00:36:14.100 We should be encouraging those protesters.
00:36:15.640 They're not protesting against Cuba.
00:36:17.500 They're protesting against the system and the government
00:36:20.260 that has been holding them down for decades.
00:36:22.400 And I understand you've got diplomacy.
00:36:25.420 You don't want to wade into the middle of that.
00:36:27.660 But don't be unsupportive of the citizens standing up for themselves.
00:36:30.700 They're standing up against a system that's done nothing but hurt them for generations.
00:36:34.580 And it's just an embarrassment that Canada can't find its balls in the Foreign Service
00:36:39.660 to call out on these badass countries out there.
00:36:42.980 You know, I've been planning a winter vacation.
00:36:45.680 I haven't taken a winter vacation in some time.
00:36:47.360 I was planning taking one this coming winter.
00:36:50.740 And, you know, a lot of people tell me how beautiful Cuba is.
00:36:53.660 I should check it out and have to go.
00:36:57.140 But, you know, part of me is slowly letting me a little bit of my guard down, thinking, well, the communists aren't going to go make our peace with them and whatnot.
00:37:09.480 But then you see this, and then you see the disgusting reaction of Canada's federal government that is probably actually, outside of Venezuela, Canada is the closest ally of Cuba's communist regime, after only Venezuela, which is also a communist regime.
00:37:26.560 So, I can't do it.
00:37:31.540 I mean, I'm going to go to its neighbor, probably Dominican or Mexico, something in the area.
00:37:35.760 Colombia's been getting nicely.
00:37:37.640 Yeah.
00:37:38.520 You know what?
00:37:39.520 I'll go pretty much anywhere, other than Siberia.
00:37:43.180 I won't do Siberia.
00:37:44.080 I don't want a Googlog vacation.
00:37:45.980 So, yeah, if you're thinking about your winter vacation, please consider not giving your money to the communist regime in Cuba.
00:37:54.200 It's just propping it up.
00:37:55.620 If we want that government to fall, it can't be supported by an influx of largely Canadian money.
00:38:03.200 Canada is by far the largest tourism source for Cuba, and that is their biggest source of revenue for that government,
00:38:12.580 because apparently 100% taxes is not enough.
00:38:16.360 So, well, let's wrap it up there on a nice, sunny Cuban note.
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