The Pipeline： July 7, 2021
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BC Civil Liberties Association's Executive Director and President Harshan walia says, Burn them all down! in response to the Catholic Church fires that have been ravaging churches across Alberta and British Columbia, Canada.
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Hi, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The
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the studio today is Western Standard news editor Dave Naylor still not
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content with rubbing in England's cheating technical victory over Germany
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Derek I'm very excited we're an hour away from kickoff as you know from our
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meeting today we actually have hundreds of readers in England so come on lads
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bring it home I am I was surprised by how many readers we had in England it's
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pretty far from the west it is yeah and Cory Morgan who doesn't bother himself
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with these pleasures of the vulgar crowd how you doing court very good I'm still
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vulgar well put well we've got a great show on the pipeline today we've got the
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BC Civil Liberties Association's executive director and president saying
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as it regards church burnings burn it all down very interesting developments
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around that in British Columbia, as well as former, I don't know if he was chief of staff,
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but anyway, former top guy for Trudeau, Gerald Butts, says church burnings are understandable.
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He's okay with it. He's not saying, he's not going as far as the BC Civil Liberties Association
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saying you should do it. He's just saying, yeah, it's understandable. It's okay to burn some
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churches. You know, you got to burn some churches from time to time. It happens. Yeah. And British
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columbia and alberta reopening for the summer uh long overdue and uh good news we're going to talk
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about that we'll also talk about uh how funny it is that some people who uh think we're all going
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Well, let's turn it towards British Columbia, the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association.
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I mean, we could use a lot more of them right now.
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At least we certainly could have in the last year and a half.
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But the president of the BC Civil Liberties Association says, burn it all down.
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apparently your liberties include the liberty to burn people's churches that
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you don't know. Dave why don't you tell us about it? Lots to talk about on this
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story, Derek. The firestorm began on the weekend when the head of the BC Civil
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Liberties Association, Harshan Walia, tweeted, burn them all down in response
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to the Catholic Church fires that have been ravaging churches across Alberta
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And British Columbia seemed a strange thing to say, and the internet immediately blew up with anger, saying she should be reported to the police.
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I think that was about the nicest comment anybody said about her.
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uh she has not spoken to the media but she did speak to uh uh to a indigenous elder and told
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her it was a uh the fault of a right-wing news organization i guess that's us i think she's
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talking i think she's talking about us i thought we're left she says uh she was misquoted even
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though her quote was burn them all down forward quote that that's what we quoted what was her
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actual quote we burn them all down that's what I thought yeah so hard to
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was there anything else she said in the context not in that week no no no no so
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she said nothing before or after that nothing so we didn't pull that no no she
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tweeted it claimed she was taken out of context let's give it a little more
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context her tweet burn it all down was a sub to a retweet of a story about
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Catholic churches and anglic Christian churches in general mostly Catholic but
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Christian church is being burned down so that's some context you know she tweets
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burn it all down burn them all down yeah hard to take out of context I I'm hard
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I'm failing to see how mm-hmm the next day an Alberta indigenous lawyer by the
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name of Naomi Sayers said she would help burn them all down so of course that
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sparked even more outrage apparently complaints have been made to the law
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society about her conduct be sir Ontario NDP member of their legislature came out
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in support the president of the BC so you're not trying to remember the an
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an NDP member of the Ontario Legislature-backed Church Burnings?
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And today the president of the BCCLA, basically Wallya's boss, stood by her,
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said that also said the quotes were taken out of context and not to be not to be taken literally
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but surely a social media firestorm if you'll excuse the pun across Canada about the the
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urging of churches to be burned down the indigenous reaction has been no don't there these churches are
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still in use on some first nations land they're historical buildings more than a century old
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the church in mortonville outside edmonton and you know in the center of town beautiful historic
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building uh ruined by uh by arsonists so uh two dozen fires now across the west uh one in
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the northwest territories even in yellow knife so it's a uh it's a spreading it's a spreading
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Police forces are setting up task forces to try and find the culprits, and I think it's
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I mean, if she was going to backpedal and try to make excuses, she'd say, it was heated,
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I was emotional, I didn't mean it literally, I'm sorry about it.
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she didn't. She hasn't apologized. She hasn't backed down.
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She just locked her social media account. And I mean, this is very serious.
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This is grossly irresponsible and dangerous. I mean, yeah,
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what two dozen fires in churches so far, we're lucky.
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A firefighter hasn't been killed yet or a bystander or somebody in one of those
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I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few churches where some people are sitting
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out the night waiting to make sure they guard their church and that could lead
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This trend has to come to a stop and to have some clown like her who has a
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degree of profile to go out and say burn it all and it really did at least it was
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good to smoking out the extremists in our country to see like an you know an
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MPP in Ontario coming out and and the lawyer in Alberta to say they support
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this this kind of an artistic dangerous crap we can't put up with this this is
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not acceptable I mean I'm a free speech person but it's like the old saying of
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you know a fire in a theater when you're preaching doing harm to others you've
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changed the whole actually it's worse than screaming fire in a theater it's
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saying set fire to the theater and people actually taking you up on it just imagine if somebody said
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string him up yeah and rightly so whoever said that and there's very few contexts where that
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would be acceptable they would be pillory they would be uh completely sidelined and there has
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been good backlash against uh this case though i mean most people rational people realize that was
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a completely irresponsible and gross statement it's just too over the top what do you think
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Corey, what do you think the chances are that, you know, if police manage to catch any of these people, what do you think the chances are this would be considered a hate crime?
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That's for people with more legal knowledge than me to set that bar at, I guess.
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I mean, you are targeting a religious group, but then, you know.
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You know, for sure, if it's been synagogues or mosques, there would be no doubt this would be considered a hate crime.
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This is definitely targeting, but whether it happens, I would move to.
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I would point out the few people that have been arrested for knocking statues down have
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only been charged with mischief, which is slap on the wrist material.
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The one thing I will predict is if we catch some of these arsonists, I'll be quite surprised
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if many, if any of them are actually First Nations people, I'll be more likely, I think
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we're going to find white middle-class social justice warriors who crawled out of their
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parents basements and decided to well in one of the churches uh it wasn't being uh burned but it
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was being vandalized with paint uh they actually did get some video and uh these people were
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wearing masks but as long as far as we could tell these were white karens these are white karens
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doing this uh yeah maybe i'm mistaken but uh judging from my own two eyes these people were
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as white as snow and uh they're just uh creating violence on behalf of people that they're agreed
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before. What they're doing, though, is they're actually going to incite hatred and resentment
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towards First Nations people. And as well, one thing that gets lost here, there's a few exceptions
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like Bourneville, but most, the overwhelming majority of these churches are Indigenous churches.
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Indigenous people, you know, Nathan Gita, our BC political columnist, was the Nathan Gita of the
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Mountain Standard Time show. He's got a great column coming out today just on this. He's First
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Nations himself. I mean, most headcounts show that Indigenous Canadians are more likely to be a
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practicing Christian than non-Indigenous Canadians. And these churches matter to very large numbers of
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people in these communities, and you are burning their churches. I mean, church burnings are wrong
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to begin with, but you should probably come and burn, I don't know, a white guy's church before
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burn the indigenous church if this is what you're angry about you're burning down the churches of
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indigenous people on their behalf and most the overwhelming majority of indigenous people do
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not seem to appreciate it but so it hurts their churches they're the victims of it but also it
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you know the perception is going to be even though it very much might not be the case
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the perception is going to be that it's indigenous people burning down uh non-indigenous churches and
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There's nothing good coming out of this, nothing.
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And to see people try to justify it like that is just repugnant.
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Well, Justin Trudeau certainly didn't jump in front of the first microphone he could find when this started happening.
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Not in as strong a language as he would expect for other institutions being burned.
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But his former top staffer, Gerald Butts, not so keen to condemn.
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He tweeted last night that while burning down churches was not, quote, cool,
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I guess, I mean, again, social media jumped all down his throat to the, you know, the
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Is it understandable to burn down things, you know?
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Obviously, I'm not able to put myself in the position of those who are doing the burning
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down uh as an outsider i can't accept that it's understandable uh corey where do you stand church
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burnings uh understandable or not no not in the slightest it just goes without question to anybody
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rational and sane and it's ironic that you know these guys call critics of them extremists and
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such when you're putting out rhetoric like that um i'm just appalled i mean but whatever it might
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Maybe he isn't an idiot, but he certainly presented himself as one with this.
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You know, can we just imagine if a former top staffer to Stephen Harper said that burning mosques or synagogues was understandable?
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Can we just wrap our mind around that for a second?
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But, Dave, what do you think would be, what do you think would happen if Ian Brody, former
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Chief of Staff to Steve Harper, he says, burning mosques is understandable.
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I think it would be the banner headline in the next day's Toronto Star, without a doubt.
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Again, this is just a perfect example of how the liberal mainstream media treats their
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well let's look at something almost as hot as church fires so this damn summer
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has been pretty hot just in time for masks to stop being mandatory we're
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reopening if you downtown Calgary starting to feel a small sense of
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normality right now Dave tell us about the reopening plans BC Alberta and
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actually one of our readers says Saskatchewan's opening up on the 11th so
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City of Calgary this week, sort of the last holdout,
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Town of Canmore, I believe, did the very next day.
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No restrictions in restaurants or pubs or outdoor gatherings.
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uh you know uh funerals are back on weddings are back on so it's uh it's a great time to be alive
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who would have thought uh we'd ever say uh funerals are better yeah yeah and it's uh i know a few
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people who have uh suffered losses during the uh you know the pandemic and it wasn't pleasant that
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they were not able to hold proper ceremonies to uh say farewell to their loved ones yeah i've uh
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i was in that case as well and i think most people are yeah we you know people die we lose people
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and to not be able to honor them was a tough time um uh corey uh you know you wrote a great column
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on this um on unmasking nenshi nenshi uh fought to keep mandatory masks till the bitter end
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kicking and screaming uh tell us about how that council meeting went uh and how the mass mandate
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was finally defeated and who were the people who fought to the absolute bitter end to keep it and
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who were the people who essentially just kind of pulled it at the end yeah well it was interesting
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to uh it was ugly political gamesmanship that was going on you know even going back to the first
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vote to to keep those i mean we could see they were trying to put their their finger in the eye
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of premier kenny they do not like premier kenny they do not want the summer reopening to be a
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success they just don't want things to be happy i mean it's as simple as that so they figured the
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way to do it was we're going to maintain this law beyond what the rest of the province did and they
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really did think though i think it fell apart for them when edmonton their council stood up
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and said well we're not doing that if edmonton is uh being more if edmonton's council is being a bit
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more uh libertarian than calgary's it gives pause for concern and then cal and then left bridge
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followed uh and then uh even banff with uh mayor karen sorenson who was very uh outspoken to keeping
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the mask so then she was found himself standing alone they kicked it down the road until the fifth
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the city administration prior to that had been saying we want to keep the mask bylaw until at
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least the end of july uh jody gondek was positioning herself uh mayoral uh hopeful
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uh saying she wanted to see well into august everybody was lining up on how they're going
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to be the hero saving alberta but a couple of others uh they only needed to lose one vote
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and a couple dropped off, so they were left standing with a lost mandate. But the predictable
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far left of council, because that's what it was, was Drew Farrell, Jody Gondek, Giancarlo Carras,
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and who was the last one? Shahal. Shahal, the fourth one. Who is that?
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He's been drawing the Dale Hodges approach to city council. You know, nobody moves,
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nobody gets hurt you hide in the background you can make a 30-year career out of it uh i've heard
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he might be looking to make a federal move coming up a little while which might be the first time
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for some reason we've seen him jump into this with this masking thing there's a lot to read
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into these moves and then drew farrell pulled a procedural stunt i mean because they decided they
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were going to get rid of the mask law they needed three readings of it but typically when it when
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it's been in council and the majority have said okay it's done it's just going through the motions
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you get unanimous consent the second one is done but no no and she is a 20-year veteran of that
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council said no i'm going to dig my heels in i'm not voting i'm not giving you an ass consent which
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forced them to hold a special meeting in the afternoon just to do that and put it out that's
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how stubborn politicized and stupid this got but the bottom line is the mass parlors are gone aside
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from in city properties on transit and with provincial regulation in taxis and unfortunately
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for me and uber but the what it did was clear lines on the two front runners for the merrill
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t candidate jeremy farkas fought hard against the mask jody gondek fought hard for the mask
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she was one of the four uh fabulous left who voted against the final uh the final uh
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you're lying in the sand the drew the drew motion so you can't not get any more clearer decision
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uh for the campaign well there we go so if uh we're not all dead come october 18th i guess
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jeremy parkas uh gets proven right uh yeah we'll see but if we're all dead then um i guess gondek
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gets to be in there yeah well that's close to one these days anyways yeah but we'll see what happens
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I mean, nobody really wants to see infections go, but the numbers are great.
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And it's funny, though, again, watching some of that play, because you can see Mayor Nenshi
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was already backpedaling a bit on Friday and then starting to pad his landing for Monday,
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saying, well, the numbers are going to continue to decline.
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And they played the, oh, think of the children card.
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And one of their big arguments was, well, children haven't been vaccinated.
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there you know there's no stats out there showing that you know the children are transmitting
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or even dying from the disease in large numbers so yeah that was their final card they had and
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it failed well uh let's talk about some of these holdouts at least hold out until there's a good
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time to be had uh alberta premier a former premier and current ndp leader rachel notley
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um i mean she has been um pretty successful in getting kenny to do what she wants for most
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pandemic uh she says crack down harder kenny says no you just you're locked down happy then a week
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or two later he does it that's been most of the case uh but i think kenny has now finally said
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okay a year and a half of this of this is enough we're done i think he's been essentially forced
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into it politically but at the regardless of how we got here we're in a good spot rachel notley
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says, no, everyone's going to die, can't reopen, we need to keep locking down, should not be the
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best summer ever. That was until it, well, it got official. Masks are gone, lockdowns are gone,
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it's done, Stampede's going forward. Notley says Stampede should not happen, at least until recently
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she's changed her mind. Dave, tell us about this change of part of Rachel Notley. Giddy up, Derek,
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she uh did change her mind uh and is going to have a big stampede bash this thursday at prairie
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windspark five o'clock bring your own blanket uh she's been fighting against the stampede
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since may uh at the end of may uh notley and kenny had a terse exchange in the legislature
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she brought up the fact uh you know other canadian exhibitions like the cne and the pe and the sorry
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Peany and the Formula One race in Montreal were all cancelled and questioned whether or not Kenny
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was pandering to the stampede and setting the July 1st date just so the stampede could go ahead.
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Kenny responded saying, well, if it was up to Notley, the NDP would be locked down the entire
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summer. So many people are calling her a hypocrite. The NDP advertised this big party yesterday.
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We did a story on it, which Kenny took great joy in mocking Notley with it, saying, basically, welcome to the party, Rachel.
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So, yeah, it does seem a complete political about face.
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Corey, I mean, flip-flopping hypocritical politicians is not a particularly new thing on left or right.
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I mean, this is supposed to be a super spreader death match,
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They said they're going to have a fun-filled Stampede week.
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I think I saw something with something like 11 events she was officially attending or something.
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Politicians are always at Stampede, but, I mean, it might be a super spreader event,
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How do you think she's going to square this politically?
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You know, I play on Twitter and I looked at her tweet with it.
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Of course, I took part in mocking her as well because I love mocking hypocrites, right?
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And she got ratio, which means, you know, very few people actually liked her tweet,
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I would say the majority cutting into her were coming from the left, not the right.
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Her own supporters are pretty upset about this.
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They took, you know, a stand on this. They supported her. They pushed. They said the
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stampede's irresponsible. And now suddenly, whoa, I'm looking at the fool. Rachel, you're leaving
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me hanging me here. You know, in the long run, how much it costs, I don't know. But hypocrisy,
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as we know, does cut. And politicians can't pass up in the stampede. She painted herself in a
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corner because, I mean, I guess taking that stance, she was kind of hoping that it wouldn't happen.
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But you can't miss out on that two weeks of ass kissing and pancake flipping. I mean,
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it's important. That's why we see the prime minister come out for this. There's any chance
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you're going to see a prime minister in Alberta sitting one is during stampede or any of the
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other major political figures is during the stampede. So she couldn't lose that opportunity.
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I think she gambled on, well, being exposed as a hypocrite, and you are, is still better than
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missing out on the two-week opportunity of some face-to-face campaigning on the ground in a city
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that's probably going to be a swing one in the next election. Yeah. I'm a bit more cynical,
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But I don't think hypocrisy tends to hurt politicians most of the time.
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I mean, if there was a bigger price to be paid, they would be less critical.
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Consistency, people say they like consistency, but consistency actually doesn't generally lead to a particularly good political outcome most of the time.
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If it was an election, she was facing one this fall, this might hurt.
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But this will be long forgotten by the time they go to the polls.
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but it's still she does look foolish out of it and i'm going to make sure and others just to
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rub her nose into it um i did i remember tweeting about that weeks ago when the stampede battle was
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going on i was saying i want to see all these people we're saying the stampede is irresponsible
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let's see how many of these politicians are actually at the stampede when the time comes
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yeah we're already seeing they're all going to be there they're not doing this yeah so okay well uh
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