Western Standard - The Pipeline： June 16, 2021

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00:03:00.000 Good day, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching

00:03:17.580 The Pipeline. Today is June 16, 2012. Today we're going to be discussing the heating up

00:03:25.100 senate elections in alberta uh calgary mayors naheed nenshi and uh edmonton mayor don ivison

00:03:33.900 talking about continuing the mask mandates long after covet ceases to be a major crisis and uh

00:03:41.100 the bill 10s c10 uh censorship legislation in ottawa hits a snag uh today i'm joined by western

00:03:49.500 standard news editor dave nailer how you doing dave it's a wonderful wednesday at western standard

00:03:54.540 world headquarters there world headquarters world headquarters right and uh cory morgan

00:04:00.620 uh alberta political columnist and host of the cory morgan show how you feeling cory oh good good

00:04:05.820 all right well uh before we dive into it we want to thank all of our western standard members

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00:05:56.420 Okay, well, we'll get into the issues.

00:06:00.160 The Alberta Senate election, we haven't had one of these since 2012.

00:06:04.820 It was held in conjunction with the provincial election that year.

00:06:08.320 Remember when Alison Redford was elected to majority government?

00:06:12.960 At the same time, we held a Senate election.

00:06:16.020 We're now going to be having another Senate election in conjunction with our municipal elections and the equalization referendum on October 18th of this year.

00:06:25.160 Dave, why don't you give us a primer?

00:06:26.900 It's going to be a very long ballot for people to fill in when they go to the polling station on October 18th.

00:06:33.640 As you mentioned, Derek, you've got your civic election to vote for.

00:06:37.180 You've got the provincial government's equalization referendum to vote for.

00:06:41.420 And now you're going to be voting for two Alberta Senate candidates.

00:06:47.500 The government will put forward the top two winners to the Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, to fill two seats that are vacant in Alberta.

00:06:56.500 Some are saying the exercise is a waste of time because there'll be little or no chance of Justin Trudeau ever appointing an elected senator.

00:07:05.740 uh it's also interesting that the uh the provincial parties cannot be represented you

00:07:11.660 have to be uh you have to be a federal party uh representative if you want the the name on the uh

00:07:18.940 the uh the ballot the conservative party announced this week that they will put forward the names of

00:07:24.940 three people to run under the federal conservative banner erin o'toole will uh will announce those

00:07:31.500 winners at a later date the nomination process is now open if uh if you wanted to click on the uh

00:07:37.740 the conservative website and fill in the forms and all the details are there you mean i can run

00:07:42.780 as a you could run you could run oh that would be interesting to get you in the red chamber

00:07:48.620 the uh sober second thought area a little red for me it's a little red for you uh there are

00:07:53.420 a couple of uh independent people that have already announced uh former ucp party president

00:07:58.780 Well, she's not running as an independent.

00:08:00.360 No.

00:08:01.620 So she's not an independent.

00:08:03.620 Well, there's two names out there.

00:08:06.480 Erica Barutz, former head of the United Conservative Party.

00:08:11.300 United Conservative Party.

00:08:12.120 She'll be running under the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:08:15.080 If she gets the nomination, I guess.

00:08:18.280 And also a gentleman called Duncan Kinney, who's running to abolish the Senate.

00:08:24.300 So that'll be interesting to him.

00:08:27.100 But it's another political intrigue angle going on in Alberta at the moment.

00:08:34.240 What strikes me as interesting here is that provincial parties are prohibited from being on the ballot.

00:08:41.840 And call me a conspiracy theorist, which might be fair, but I'd say there's something up to that.

00:08:49.320 So provincially, you know, you've got the United Conservative Party would obviously run candidates.

00:08:54.300 They believe in an elected Senate.

00:08:56.780 I'm not sure they really talk much about secret redistribution.

00:09:00.880 Right now, Alberta's got half as many seats pretty much as just New Brunswick,

00:09:05.260 which is, I think, one-fourth our population or something like that.

00:09:09.160 But they believe in an elected Senate, so the United Conservative Party will run a candidate.

00:09:12.580 That's expected.

00:09:14.000 The NDP has never run in a Senate election that I'm aware of in Alberta.

00:09:18.720 They oppose the existence of the Senate, and that's fine.

00:09:21.400 I oppose the existence of the House of Commons, but I still vote for someone to go there.

00:09:25.860 But the federal NDP is strictly against it as well, plus the NDP traditionally wouldn't have had a chance of winning one of these things.

00:09:34.020 They actually might now, but they're unlikely to run.

00:09:36.860 And since it has to be under the federal banners, the provincial NDP doesn't even have the option of putting someone on the ballot unless there's independence.

00:09:44.220 And no one in Alberta has ever elected anyone with independence beside their name since the early 80s, and certainly not on a province-wide scale.

00:09:51.400 You have the Alberta Party, which I don't really know what their position is on the Senate or if they even have one, but I'd say there's a chance they would possibly want to run, but they're not allowed to be on the ballot because they don't have a federal party, although some would cynically say that's the Liberals, but that's not for me to say.

00:10:10.420 More interesting, though, would be to the parties to the right of the UCP, Wild Rose Independence Party, things like that.

00:10:17.280 There's obviously no federal Wild Rose Party.

00:10:19.880 So Wild Rose is not allowed to run in the Senate elections.

00:10:23.760 They might say, well, what about the Maverick Party?

00:10:25.420 Well, the Maverick Party is quite different across four provinces.

00:10:28.760 I think it's a little less spicy.

00:10:31.260 And it's, I think, importantly, from the Tories' perspective, it's about one-tenth in the polls from where Wild Rose is.

00:10:39.460 Wild Rose is at 20%. Maverick is sitting around soaking wet, 4%, maybe up to 6%, depending on the

00:10:48.320 poll. But they're significantly below where Wild Rose is. So I think the Tories would much rather

00:10:53.280 face any opposition on the right. They'd much rather face Maverick than Wild Rose, if the polls

00:10:58.000 are any indication. Corey, do you think that's, am I just being overly cynical? Or do you think

00:11:06.060 this is the reason they're kind of playing with it, saying only federal parties can run?

00:11:12.400 He's taken an exercise that's been a point of principle for conservatives for quite some years

00:11:16.460 now. I mean, all the way back to Stan Waters and ruined it. He's ruined it. He's taken out that

00:11:22.340 regional importance, that portion of it. I mean, the goal would be to have a senator who would

00:11:27.480 stand up for Alberta on a federal front and Kenny doesn't want to step on Aaron O'Toole's toes. So

00:11:33.740 this way, he's taken that out of the mix. You know, things like Aaron O'Toole's carbon tax.

00:11:38.020 Yeah, I want a senator to say, Aaron, take your carbon tax and stuff it. That's not an Albertan

00:11:42.320 thing. And we won't get that now because they're going to be tied to the federal party, which means

00:11:46.180 they will tow the federal line and do what they need to do to win Quebec as usual. So what I do

00:11:51.320 like about it is it still shows the absolute futility of trying to change things on the federal

00:11:55.640 front within the broken system. You know, there's only one way out. And let's just keep batting your

00:12:01.360 head against the wall. This, the equalization, that's fine. And let's see our federal parties

00:12:05.100 tell us to jam it. And then we can move on to the real referendum that'll be important down the road

00:12:09.940 that I'm really looking forward to. Well, that's an interesting segue. I don't want to get too

00:12:14.220 off course, but Rachel Notley, I think not a lot she does, I agree with. And I don't necessarily

00:12:19.640 agree with her motivations, but I think she was right to do this. She put the question to Erin

00:12:23.560 O'Toole that if, okay, Jason Kenney holds this referendum in the fall and Albertans vote to

00:12:27.900 abolish equalization. Are you going to take him up on it? Is there going to be any change to

00:12:32.080 equalization if you're prime minister? And he is silent as the night. He doesn't have any. Of

00:12:38.160 course, he's as silent as the night. And Rachel Notley, I think, expected that. I think what she's

00:12:42.000 trying to do is expose that like this is an effort and an exercise in futility, of which I think it

00:12:47.820 is an exercise in futility. But I think it's an exercise in futility worth having. Well, that's

00:12:52.640 it. I want people to get out and pick a senator no matter what, just so that that senator can

00:12:56.260 against the wall anyways and i'm not actually sure about that because i mean if you're if you

00:13:01.780 do not support aaron o'toole and the conservative party of canada and therefore a carbon tax

00:13:07.380 why would you vote for a conservative senator because so if there is a part if there is no

00:13:10.980 party that you support federally i think you should take your senate ballot and you spoil it

00:13:15.940 because you you need to register that you believe in the right to to vote for a senator but you might

00:13:22.180 not necessarily believe any candidate is worth supporting it's difficult maybe an independent

00:13:25.940 will come up. I mean, what I see also is an exercise. Independents have zero percent chance

00:13:29.500 of winning. I don't know about that this time around. No independent has been elected even in

00:13:33.120 a minor constituency since 1982. But this is a Senate election. This is a little different.

00:13:37.700 Somebody can make a point of principle. One thing like Duncan Kinney is a no. Not to cut you off,

00:13:42.240 but an independent, no one does the research. No one, most people don't even know who their

00:13:47.880 candidate for MLA or MP is. And without a party name next to them, they have zero percent chance

00:13:53.980 of winning. But it depends who the candidate is, sure. Okay, if you run Jesus Christ, maybe.

00:13:58.580 But if you've got somebody that's well-known, prominent, that would look good on the federal

00:14:03.340 stage, I'm kind of with Corey. I don't think you can rule out. I'll bet you $10,000 that no matter

00:14:10.040 who runs as an independent, they don't win. And I'll give you two to one odds. Well, you're going

00:14:13.640 to have to increase my salary a little bit too. No, this is about increasing mine. You'll be paying

00:14:18.660 me. But I mean, you know, Nunziata did it a long time back. I mean, things that do happen. They're

00:14:24.080 anomalies. There's no doubt about it. But as I said, this is an exercise we can still make some

00:14:28.100 use of as Albertans. Like I said, I've got no use for Duncan Kenny. He's a pure weenie, but he's

00:14:32.400 doing the right thing this time around. He's getting in and he's utilizing the process to

00:14:36.160 make a point. It was much like me running for the NDP nomination like I did a couple of years ago.

00:14:40.280 I knew the NDP would kick my ass out of there, but I made a very solid point and I undercut one of

00:14:44.960 ways of actually attacking other parties. So, I mean, I'm just saying this election, yeah,

00:14:49.620 unfortunately, Kenny's made it in a way to make it almost useless, but let's take advantage of

00:14:53.020 that uselessness and we could certainly use it to make some political votes. Sure. Look, there could

00:14:56.420 be independents running who might support things that a lot of Western Standard readers might

00:15:01.120 agree with, but they'll have zero chance of winning. I'm not saying don't vote for them. I'm

00:15:05.220 saying they have no chance of winning because, I mean, who is the most prominent person in Alberta?

00:15:11.720 Okay, maybe Stephen Harper, maybe Stephen Harper could win as an independent.

00:15:18.240 That's about it.

00:15:19.720 I cannot think of anyone else who would have any chance of winning a Senate election as an independent.

00:15:24.020 No one has the profile because most voters have no idea who the candidate is, even if they're prominent.

00:15:30.160 A prominent candidate is lucky if they're known in a single constituency.

00:15:34.180 Good luck finding someone who don't have a candidate.

00:15:35.660 What about a Danielle Smith?

00:15:37.260 I don't think she could win as an independent.

00:15:38.900 She could win as a conservative.

00:15:39.900 They only have to come in the top three, I believe, or something as well, right?

00:15:42.580 You don't have to be the number one one.

00:15:43.840 There's going to be a number of them will be senators in waiting.

00:15:45.920 Well, I guess let's back off this whole thing.

00:15:47.980 There is also a 0% chance that anyone who gets elected, party or independent, is ever actually going to sit in the Senate.

00:15:53.960 Oh, well, that's the more important point in the end.

00:15:55.620 So that's why I'm saying this is an exercise, though, that a lot of things can be positive change can come from this in a way, if not in the way that it was modeled for in the first place.

00:16:04.560 You know, Justin Trudeau was so stridently opposed to electing senators that I think that even if he had someone in mind to appoint them, but if they happen to get elected, he wouldn't appoint them on principle that they've been elected.

00:16:20.020 That would be fun as well.

00:16:21.240 So let's get the liberals to run.

00:16:22.600 So let's say you're a big liberal and you're being vetted right now to go to the Senate.

00:16:29.520 And Justin Trudeau said, yeah, you're my man.

00:16:31.200 and then you said, great, you went out and said, I want a popular mandate to be in the Senate,

00:16:35.120 and you won first place, I'm pretty sure Justin Trudeau would say, sorry, Corey,

00:16:39.780 we don't have, legislators in this country are not supposed to be elected.

00:16:43.240 Yeah, that would be magnificent. I mean, I just want to see that demonstration. Let's put,

00:16:47.560 you know, old clown shoes on the spot.

00:16:49.320 The thing is, I'm not sure this election is legitimate, not for the same reasons as some

00:16:53.260 on the left are saying, which is, well, it's not legitimate because the prime minister appoints

00:16:56.920 whoever he wants. No, that's not the reason. I mean, these are technically consultative elections.

00:17:00.480 the reason I don't think it's legitimate is because the government has rigged the whole

00:17:04.720 ballot itself to exclude anyone who would have any chance probably of beating them I mean the

00:17:10.420 provincial NDP would have a chance of beating the UCP on the ballot but the provincial NDP is not

00:17:15.760 allowed to run only the federal NDP and the federal NDP has never had a senator they've never even run

00:17:20.660 for a senate seat they're not going to and then similarly you've got Walrose they would I think

00:17:26.720 have a chance of winning uh at least a couple of these spots but there's obviously no wild rose

00:17:34.680 party of canada that that doesn't make sense so they've rigged it so i'm i actually think it's

00:17:40.060 probably an illegitimate election to believe it to begin with even though we should be having a

00:17:44.020 senate elections they have done it in such a way that i i think it lacks a lot of legitimacy oh

00:17:47.800 it's unfortunate it really is it should be a provincial exercise there's no doubt about it

00:17:51.300 it's supposed to pick provincial representatives i mean to take it and stick it right into the

00:17:55.580 federal realm has just ruined it off the bat so I'm just saying let's you know try to salvage this

00:17:59.540 this this well the way we had the election the last time we had one was in 2012 and I think that

00:18:05.860 made sense they had provincial parties running and then if you got elected under your party's

00:18:10.980 banner or however you got elected independent or with a bar with a provincial party you could then

00:18:15.380 decide to sit with a federal party in the senate so so Doug Black Scott Tannis they got elected

00:18:20.980 progressive conservatives and then they they got to ottawa and said well i'm gonna sit with the

00:18:25.820 conservative party of canada no one found that controversial but i would imagine you'd also have

00:18:31.300 uh uh well there is no federal ndp caucus in the senate so they'd have their own or say a wild

00:18:38.440 roser got elected they might sit with the conservative party probably not they would

00:18:42.680 probably just form their own small wild rose god well the senate's just a facade anyways i mean

00:18:47.120 Trudeau, remember, has said that actually they're all independent now, though they vote in liberal

00:18:51.700 order as they always have. So again, if it's going to be a joke institution, which I think it is,

00:18:56.260 let's work with the joke. I'm saying I'm putting it out there now. Let's find that independent

00:19:01.300 candidate or a maverick candidate or somebody just to throw the turd into the punch bowl. Let's have

00:19:04.960 some fun with this exercise. Let's get into the Senate debates. Let's bring those issues to the

00:19:09.380 forefront and utilize this for what it's worth, which unfortunately isn't a lot now that it's

00:19:14.740 been put into the federal realm. I would have been more excited about participating if they

00:19:18.000 allowed provincial parties and had a more legitimate election, even if there's not a

00:19:22.040 very good chance they're going to get to there. It would have been better. There's no doubt.

00:19:24.140 I just, I don't really want to legitimize a corrupted process that's already corrupted to

00:19:29.960 begin with. So, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. And I think a lot of people

00:19:34.380 probably, people probably more likely to take your position than mine.

00:19:38.960 Okay. Well, let's, we'll bring it a little closer to home. Calgary Mayor Naheed Nenshi,

00:19:43.740 Edmonton Mayor Don Iveson just don't want to let go of COVID. They just, it's the good times.

00:19:53.940 The government's in charge. Masks, everybody knows at this point masks are bullshit.

00:20:00.420 I'm not going to name the restaurant, but I went out last week after work. I went to one store to

00:20:05.720 buy something. I walked in. I just hold a mask over my face. I don't wear it. I hold it over

00:20:09.640 my face because it just doesn't fit with my beard and the guy looked at me and she said take it off

00:20:15.420 it's bullshit at this point anyway and then i went in i picked up a pizza to take home to the family

00:20:19.440 and it was the same thing and the owner saw me and she said take it off it's all for show at this

00:20:25.880 point um it's clearly all for show i mean 70 or more of albertans are vaccinated tons of people

00:20:33.960 have two vaccines. This is going away. This is in the rear view mirror. There's no point to it

00:20:39.840 anymore, but Nancy and Iverson not content to let the mask mandate go away. Why don't you tell us

00:20:46.180 what happened with that, Dave? Well, don't forget that both cities have mask bylaws in place

00:20:51.060 right through till the end of the year. So despite Alberta, if they take away their mask

00:20:58.160 recommendations city does not have to they can keep them in place right through till till next

00:21:03.920 year in calgary mayor nancy lifted the state of emergency last week but kind of hinted that if

00:21:10.560 the province drops their mask mandate which they could do in stage three which is just a matter of

00:21:19.200 perhaps as little as two weeks away that calgary would likely keep their mask province is looking

00:21:25.360 at a 70% vaccination rate of first doses, and she says doctors he talked to have said

00:21:31.740 that it could be, what you should be aiming for is 70% of people with second doses, and

00:21:36.880 there's a huge, huge difference in terms of population with that at the moment. So Nancy

00:21:43.740 said it was more than likely that the mask bylaw in Calgary could stay through until

00:21:48.280 the end of July, which of course would incorporate the stampede. He says that won't have much

00:21:55.040 in effect because it's just a bylaw for indoor spaces and the stampede last week issued a

00:22:01.040 statement that said their staff was going to be required to wear masks during the 10-day event

00:22:07.120 well that'll be fun uh in a hot beer tent wearing a mask but who the hell's gonna want to do that

00:22:13.440 exactly uh edmonton mayor ivison has sort of uh said similar things uh so calgary council is

00:22:21.600 debating it uh this week i believe it's uh sorry next week i believe it's on tuesday

00:22:27.280 uh so i guess we'll see what uh what the city has to say but if the province uh the province

00:22:34.240 drops their mask bylaw derek and the cities don't i think you're going to see a big backlash

00:22:39.440 uh against the cities for doing it corey uh what why do you think nancy and iverson would do this

00:22:47.060 The provincial mask mandate seems like it's going to go away pretty soon.

00:22:51.340 Anyone who's driven outside of the city limits of Calgary and Edmonton knows that the mask mandate is kind of like old witchcraft laws on the books.

00:22:59.080 No, very few people adhere to it there.

00:23:02.460 Why do you think, what do you think the reasoning is for Ninchy?

00:23:05.800 Like, forget their public reasoning.

00:23:07.960 What do you think they really want to achieve?

00:23:10.700 Two, I mean, for one, they don't like giving up control.

00:23:12.560 They don't.

00:23:13.260 It's not in their nature.

00:23:15.200 The other part is they want to undercut Jason Kenney's best summer ever.

00:23:19.540 They want the Stampede to be miserable.

00:23:21.560 They want, because they've been saying right off the bat that it's premature,

00:23:24.740 at least implying, you know, and saying it's irresponsible to have this.

00:23:27.760 A Calgarian shouldn't get out to this.

00:23:29.400 And they want to make sure that it's just not fun.

00:23:32.620 So you're sweating in that beer tent with your mask on and so on.

00:23:35.420 The only upside is, you know, some of those carnies will probably look better with a mask than without.

00:23:39.420 Oh, that's a mean, mean.

00:23:41.860 oh but I mean you know your bigger hazards yeah I mean what's your hazard you know the COVID or

00:23:46.620 yeah getting on there with that hungover carny with the loose parts laying underneath the zipper

00:23:49.860 there I mean I don't know how I survived through the 80s going on those things in the first place

00:23:53.080 but they're I mean it's just about political points it really is and then they want to drag

00:23:59.360 it out to the end I suspect by the end of July uh you know Nenshi and Iverson it should be noted

00:24:03.380 they aren't running again for mayor as well so they don't mind taking off Calgarians with that

00:24:06.780 law a bit and things get forgotten uh but they just want to rub it in one little bit before the

00:24:11.640 end i think well yeah we saw with stampede as well um uh the city essentially nenshi uh banning

00:24:19.640 there being a real parade there's no real parade allowed we're gonna have a virtual parade so if

00:24:24.600 you're watching it on tv at least on paper it's not any different than usual normally it's a camera

00:24:29.160 more a couple of cameras in a single spot with a few different angles but when you think about it

00:24:35.320 from the participant uh from the point of view of a participant in the parade why would you go through

00:24:40.920 all the effort of creating a float or bringing your your uh your horses into town and saddling

00:24:47.320 up and your get up and all that because you've got about 10 seconds soaking wet in front of a camera

00:24:53.640 so you may as well ride a hundred meters and then just get off your horse and get off your float

00:24:58.040 it's the point of the parade is you you know if you're if you're in it they're enjoying they're

00:25:02.040 waving at people or they're throwing candy or doing whatever you do in a parade and it goes

00:25:06.280 throughout the downtown and it's several kilometers long lots of people and so it's actually enjoyable

00:25:11.640 to participate in the parade from beginning to end with this who in their right mind is gonna

00:25:17.960 i mean the only ones will do it'll be a couple of companies trying to flash their logos around

00:25:22.360 but you know so maybe we'll do it but you know i western standard float yeah i just don't see the

00:25:28.120 point of it it's it when you know the good tv of the parade is people waving who are these people

00:25:35.160 going to be waving to in a closed stampede ground you have to fake wave pretend there's you know

00:25:40.280 like we pretend there's a city of calgary behind us they have to pretend there's a crowd in front

00:25:44.040 of hey no that's the window from our sorry our great free mistake yeah it's gonna be uh it's

00:25:49.800 always the same weather yeah it's gonna be the weirdest stampede ever yeah i i think there is

00:25:54.920 something to this that they don't want to from there you know from i i would say it's probably

00:26:00.440 fair to say most western standard readers and those of us here in the studio think that kenny's

00:26:06.120 been wickedly too hard and draconian cracking down but necci and i doesn't fall into the camp

00:26:11.060 they're to the left of kenny uh they think he's been as laissez-faire libertarian uh terms i would

00:26:18.060 not use to describe the premier or not many people would use um they kind of want to demonstrate that

00:26:24.160 they're tougher on covet it's kind of a it seems to me a virtue signaling thing to effectively make

00:26:28.740 this crappy virtual parade and then try to make everyone miserable by wearing masks on the ground.

00:26:33.820 They want him to fail. I mean, you know, like I said, I think Casey Maddux crossed the line too

00:26:37.920 far. I don't think Iverson and Notley and the others are so inhuman that they actually want

00:26:41.800 to see the infections blossom or anything like that. They don't want anyone to die. They just

00:26:45.360 want it to be considered a flop. They want low turnouts. They want people to say this was a

00:26:49.600 half-ass in Denver. It wasn't very good. You know, and the irony is, and I believe it, is that

00:26:54.440 opposition thing. If Kenny hadn't opened

00:26:56.620 things up, they would all be decrying on

00:26:58.620 how his rigidness while

00:27:00.620 the infections are dropping is allowing an

00:27:02.540 institution like the Stampede to

00:27:04.180 fade into the night

00:27:06.300 due to these restrictions. He can't win.

00:27:08.880 Yeah.

00:27:12.760 I think that's what it comes down to with the

00:27:14.500 masks is they just want to make us miserable as

00:27:16.540 possible. We should keep in mind though

00:27:18.460 that municipalities

00:27:20.200 only have powers that are given to them

00:27:22.560 override the province. The province could, with the snap of their finger, take away the city of

00:27:26.880 Calgary's right to have a mask mandate. They get the power from the province. Constitutionally,

00:27:33.240 there is no constitutional municipalities. They're created by legislation and regulation.

00:27:40.560 So, I mean, if the county government was serious about Stampede, they could say, well,

00:27:45.980 that's nice, Nancy. You can keep your mask mandate in place, but the province is striking it down.

00:27:50.200 They have every right to do that.

00:27:52.060 I don't think he wants to go to war with the mayor.

00:27:54.540 He's got enough on his plate.

00:27:57.000 Well, I'm looking forward to Stampede,

00:27:58.720 but I'm not going if I have to wear a muzzle on my face

00:28:01.380 the whole time in the hot weather.

00:28:03.160 Not happening.

00:28:04.120 Indoors or outdoors.

00:28:06.500 Okay, well, let's move further away

00:28:08.060 to the center of the universe in Ottawa.

00:28:12.300 Bill C-10, the censorship bill,

00:28:15.060 continues, obviously, to be very controversial.

00:28:19.240 The Liberals made a bunch of, in a very strange way, made a bunch of amendments to this bill

00:28:23.880 in the committee stage. Dave, why don't you tell us about what those amendments were

00:28:29.100 and what snag did it hit when it came out of that committee?

00:28:32.860 Bill C-10 is a scary bill. It will give the government powers to legislate and censor the

00:28:40.700 internet. For example, they could censor this show for Corey calling a Senate candidate a weenie

00:28:46.580 or calling carnies ugly.

00:28:50.460 That was a bit rude.

00:28:51.660 It was.

00:28:52.520 It was.

00:28:53.340 But it was very court.

00:28:54.240 Yeah, not necessarily untrue.

00:28:58.560 So the government's been fighting.

00:29:00.420 Heritage Minister Stephen Gilbeau has been fighting for weeks to get Bill C-10 through to a course of opposition.

00:29:08.300 The Prime Minister and Gilbeau both said people against this are just right-wing extremists

00:29:15.120 wearing tinfoil hats.

00:29:17.640 The Conservative government,

00:29:19.980 Conservative opposition, excuse me,

00:29:22.340 conducted a filibuster

00:29:23.840 to try and prevent this

00:29:25.140 from going through committee.

00:29:27.420 The NDP and the bloc support this bill now.

00:29:30.660 It's just the Conservatives

00:29:31.660 fighting themselves.

00:29:33.620 So Jolbeau and the Liberals

00:29:35.460 imposed a gag order,

00:29:36.980 cutting off debate into the bill.

00:29:42.120 And they also proposed

00:29:43.320 a whole bunch of different amendments

00:29:44.520 that weren't even up for debate.

00:29:46.460 They weren't even in the main bill.

00:29:48.740 So the Liberals took it through

00:29:50.200 and it passed the House of Commons this week.

00:29:53.300 But the Speaker, in a bit of a shocking ruling,

00:29:55.740 because he's a Liberal, he's a Liberal appointee,

00:29:59.100 was so offended by these new amendments

00:30:01.600 that he struck them down

00:30:02.740 and ordered the bill to be rewritten

00:30:06.600 without those amendments that were passed without debate.

00:30:11.860 So bills being rewritten,

00:30:14.200 It's going to be in the hands of the Senate, and now the Liberals are in a race to get it done.

00:30:19.360 I think they now have six business days left before the summer recess,

00:30:23.840 so it will really be a race against time to see if the Senate will pass it

00:30:29.080 or if the conservative members in the Senate try and delay it as much as they can.

00:30:36.760 Corey, do you think C10 has actually become a problem for the Liberals?

00:30:42.920 are they um oh jesus are is this become like obviously around here people hate it it's pretty

00:30:54.020 universal but uh the liberals aren't really caring that much about southern alberta and

00:31:00.440 or really anywhere in alberta for where they're going to win any seats is c10 actually a political

00:31:06.480 liability for them at this point or is this something really just relegated to the right

00:31:09.960 that's not voting for them anyway. I think this has turned into a mess for them all around actually

00:31:14.980 you know some people are quite concerned about internet centers I mean even the NDP to a degree

00:31:18.680 were speaking against this at least they were you know reticent about supporting it I mean it always

00:31:23.920 comes down to that pushing match where eventually they're going to threaten some sort of a confidence

00:31:29.220 vote or something to scare the other parties away from from opposing this bill but I mean I hats off

00:31:34.920 and I should have remembered his name the name of the liberal speaker right now I mean it's one of

00:31:38.600 rare times though when the parliamentary system when the checks and balances worked and he stood

00:31:42.520 up on principle because he is supposed to be a non-partisan role he said the procedure and the

00:31:46.440 process was abused it was wrong we can't have these put through like this and i just won't let

00:31:51.240 you have it but when they've got their own speaker doing that hopefully some of the the people in

00:31:56.360 senior levels of the liberal party realize this is just not working out uh this is not a hill to die

00:32:02.040 on they've got the opportunity to let this die in the senate in the next six days and i i hope they

00:32:05.880 do they do seem to think this is a hill to die i don't know they have received a ton of bad press

00:32:10.360 not just from say our corner but you know pretty broadly this this bill has been opposed um it

00:32:16.920 gets them a lot of bad press i mean technically censorship is not supposed to be a left right

00:32:21.800 issue very often is but it's not supposed to be um they they are pushing so hard on this and

00:32:30.040 continuing on with it despite everything. I think that they think this must be necessary for their

00:32:36.200 political fortunes. They are willing to die. They would really like this in place before the next

00:32:41.160 election because if you can gag outward communication and reporting before election

00:32:46.280 time, you know, that's most practical for them. But again, I don't know. I mean, isn't it Michael

00:32:51.720 Geist, I believe is the name of the professor who really speaks up on these issues and he's been

00:32:54.840 pretty nonpartisan over the years and he's quite respected in, you know, again, those vaunted halls

00:32:59.640 of academia in central Canada and out there. And he is very outspoken about the way this bill is

00:33:05.140 going. I just, well, again, I mean, I'm expecting a liberal majority. We'll move on with our other

00:33:09.900 moves later anyways. But I mean, I think they should pull the pin on this thing and they have

00:33:15.220 the opportunity. We'll see if they take it or not. The only good thing about this gentleman is that

00:33:19.540 it's going to be tied up in courts for years. And, you know, they may not even get enforced in our

00:33:24.900 lifetime the way the court system moved well we've got you know former heads of

00:33:30.000 the CRTC are openly openly campaigning against this CRTC is not a good

00:33:37.680 organization it's it's a statist organization to begin with but even they

00:33:42.420 seem to recognize this is this is a few bridges too far well and as Dave's saying

00:33:46.980 I mean this will go to the courts you know they can put in their threats

00:33:50.460 before the election they're eager for it but do you think for a second we would

00:33:53.400 calm down or or refuse to say anything in light of that bill i mean come on we'll be speaking out

00:33:57.960 during the election and we'll say bring it on indeed okay well we're going to wrap it up there

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