THE PIPELINE： Keeping (taxpayer-funded) porn out of schools
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Summary
In Alberta, the government is trying to ban the use of pornography in public schools. It s been around for a while now, but it s been slowly creeping back in over the past few years. And it s becoming increasingly clear that it s not just porn being kept out of public schools, it s explicit material being kept in them.
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G'day, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard,
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and you're watching The Pipeline today on September 3rd, 2025.
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I'm joined by the usual crew here, former Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.
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And Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
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And one of our BC columnists, Elise Mills, coming to us from West Coast.
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Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be back.
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So we're going to be talking about the Bible taking place in Alberta right now,
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keeping pornographic material out of school libraries.
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And when I say pornographic, I mean like full-blown, weird, graphic porn, pretty much,
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This is being portrayed as book-burning, book-burning by the usual suspects.
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It's taken a few twists and turns. We'll talk about that.
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Speaking of Alberta schools, Western Standard exclusive story we broke yesterday,
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an Alberta high school football coach, volunteer coach, was fired from his volunteer position
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for sharing his views on teachers and the education system pushing trans ideology on kids
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The never-ending land grabs of governments granting race-based use of public lands
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to indigenous bands, saying only people of certain races can go in a park at this time.
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And then it's just taken the cats kind of out of the bag in Manitoba with one band just declaring
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its effective ownership over a large piece of land, declaring non-native people are not allowed
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And they just declared it, without the government even handing it to them this time.
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Before we get started, though, I just want to remind everyone that the Western Standard
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We're going to start off with what's taking place in Alberta schools, Corey.
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Actually, on your show earlier today, you were talking about this specifically.
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It began, I think, with parents and parental rights organizations speaking out, saying,
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like, look at some of this weird stuff that's in here.
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The Western Standard's broken stories on some of the very weird stuff that's ended up in Saskatchewan
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This stuff is full-blown pornographic material.
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I have to do a bit of a language warning for this episode.
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There's ancient instructions on how to jerk your buddy off.
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Opponents to removing this stuff from classrooms, especially for young kids.
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Like, there's, like, grade 3 kids getting this stuff.
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For some reason, Corey, they never actually cite a single example of one of these books
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No, I mean, yeah, to give a bit more background, this one's been boiling for a little while.
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And they certainly dodged the actual books that started this whole thing.
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But, you know, which is what we should be addressing.
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How did those things even get there in the first place?
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One of the most odious, you know, and that picture's gone around the net if people want
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And it shows a couple of men performing oral sex upon each other.
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Maybe we could show a blur out version on the screen.
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Well, and there's some of the irony because Daniel Smith, Premier Smith, responded at a
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press conference, and I thought very well, in saying, well, if they can't understand
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the difference between this and what's an appropriate matter for schools, and she had
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it on monitors behind them at the press conference, you know, we're there to hold their hand.
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The reason they wouldn't show it is because the books are too graphic to show on television.
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So apparently you can show them to our children, but you can't put it on TV.
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But because of this happening, the Smith government came up with a ministerial order laying out
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some guidelines on what's appropriate to go in school libraries.
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Now, the Edmonton Public School Board did a vicious compliance, just took it to the T and
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And the timing has been astounding on how they did the release on this.
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Of course, they picked out Margaret Atwood's stuff, which is good.
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And nicely, she made sure to juice that whole book ban thing as well.
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And they had 200 books, which they banned because they said that's what Smith demanded they do.
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The nuance between, again, you know, graphic depictions of men performing oral sex on each
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other, and it was going into K-9 schools versus some classic novels that reference sex now
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And they're not there to discuss, but I think something that not many people have been
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mentioning, too, is the timing of it happening right when the Alberta school teachers turned
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So I think they're looking for a battle with Smith, and they got it.
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You know, Nigel, this doesn't surprise me coming from the Alberta Teachers Association, which
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defended keeping pedos in schools, continuing to teach after they've been successfully prosecuted
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I mean, I used to dismiss this as, ah, you know, it's a couple of flaky blue hairs around.
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This is pretty systemic, coming from the entire education bureaucracy, teachers, principals,
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the union, the bureaucrats within the education department, in some cases.
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And, you know, it's an interesting tactic that they've taken at the Edmonton School Board,
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where, you know, Corey used the term vicious compliance.
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You know, the government didn't say, here's a list of bad books.
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You could, you could, you don't, you shouldn't even need parameters to tell them this is age
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appropriate for someone in the third grade, and this is not.
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Edmonton School Board says, well, anything with any sex at all, even alluded to, were banning
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so that, you know, Great Gatsby, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, I'm impressed that that appeared
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It's a hard read, but, you know, this was, I think, the equivalent of someone seeing, you
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know, the speed limit sign on the side of the highway says 100, says, well, to make sure
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They're driving 10 in a hundred zone to say that they're complying with the new rules
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What kind of cultural rot would drive people to fight this hard to keep pornography?
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Not, not risque, not something that's, you know, a little bit spicily ridden, a little
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No, this full-blown sick pornography being pushed on children.
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Why would they fight this hard to keep it in the classroom?
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There is a whole part of the cultural war that we find ourselves engaged in.
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And, you know, we do sound like a grumpy old man when we start talking about the cultural
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And there are people who want our children to grow up and think very different things to
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Well, there's one, there's a whole layer of, uh, understanding of this that we haven't talked
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And that is the part of the federal government in this.
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Astonishingly, you can trace this back to Heritage Canada.
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Um, we did a column on this a couple of months ago, but the, and I'm just going to quote freely
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from it, but federal and provincial governments have paid substantial grant monies to advocacy
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organizations that are seeking to normalize sexual and gender minorities.
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Now we can talk about who these, uh, organizations are, but that does leave us with a question of why
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would the federal government have an interest in promoting this through Heritage Canada?
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Well, frankly, after 10 years of Mr. Trudeau, I really don't have any answers as to why anymore,
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So here in Alberta, the Alberta Teachers Association is encouraging teachers to form, uh, DEI committees.
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And those are expected to press for inclusive materials, including the books that we're talking
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about, which are every bit as bad as what, uh, uh, uh, Corey there was, uh, talking about.
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So the fact is there are no gatekeepers on this, except your own provincial government.
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And it's your federal government and your unions that are part of the problem.
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Last point on this, Mr. Trudeau appointed to the Senate a man by the name of Chris Wells.
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He was, he was, he was an academic, he's from Edmonton, he's an outspoken advocate for queer
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Uh, we, we described him as a prominent advocate for sexual and gender minorities.
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He was appointed last fall to the Senate and he keeps coming back and this is his shtick.
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I can't, I can't elaborate too far on my thoughts, uh, Senator Wells, but, uh, at least I, I,
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I, I am guessing that, uh, on the left coast, you've, you've probably caught the same kinds
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I guess the difference is there that you don't have a, uh, a British Columbia government that
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Um, you know, these guys have been caught, no pun intended with the pants down here pushing.
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They, they, they, they, they, they've been caught here and, um, someone opened the door
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and, uh, has caught them with what they're doing.
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And, you know, I, I think what they're doing is they're trying to frame this as kind of
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footloose, stodgy, uh, you know, uh, anyone who's opposed to this educational material in
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schools is opposed to even any sexual education.
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Uh, they're, they're preaching absolute abstinence.
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You know, these people belong in another century kind of, kind of deal.
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I think that that's the message they're trying to push.
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But anytime anyone points out and says, okay, well, you know, here's an example of the pornography
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available in this school, this school, this school, and this school.
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And that's clearly not age appropriate for someone in the second, third, fourth grade.
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Um, they never actually address what is being removed from these libraries.
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You know, you, you, you're, you're the old stodges from footloose here.
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Other than the regular, you know, our, our team gets to the point, their team gets a point.
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Other than that, what could possibly drive them to continue fighting at this point?
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Uh, where, where they go into malicious overcompliance and something like this, fighting so hard to
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Well, you're speaking to somebody that has, as, as I, in British Columbia, I'm a well-known
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conservative, uh, former spokesperson, analyst.
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My child was on the receiving end of crippling abuse from her teachers.
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Uh, and to the point where one teacher had actually locked my child in a classroom while
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I happened to be on an, on-site at a school meeting.
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My daughter has been harassed by creepy older male teachers.
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And then at the same time, on the flip side of this, we are ground zero here for SOGI 1, 2, 3.
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I don't know if either, any of you remember SOGI.
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It was, it is all about, um, the very arguments that we're having today.
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And the parents in certain communities that were pushing back on SOGI, which was about, uh, non-binary,
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gender, fluidity, trans rights, all the whole spectrum of sexuality was captured in this.
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And it was a mandated curriculum for the classrooms of British Columbia.
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And the argument that we were, you know, banning literature or banning, uh, you know, the, you know,
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the right to, for children to have a education in sexual health, for example, was absolutely backwards.
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I actually equate it to alcohol age requirements.
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I would say there's a good reason why we're whipping away vapes from young kids.
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There's a good reason why we stop alcohol or do our best to stop the, the process of the exchange of,
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It is because you are not able and ready physically and mentally to manage the consequences of that.
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Um, and so I really understand the fight that Albertans have there.
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I think we're all really exhausted being dragged from, you know, post-Apilic in these culture wars
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that are what I would consider tradecraft by the left.
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This is the endorsement of, I think, uh, I, I actually don't know if I should say this on air,
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but I, I feel it's the endorsement of some extremely, um, what I would consider unbelievably
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And when you actually see, and I'm very glad that your minister of education and the premier
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released the books, because if you Google any of those books, there's some of them have
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websites and videos on YouTube associated with them.
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And that will make your script, your skin crawl.
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So coming from a province that has had many of these battles continues to have these battles
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with what's happening, um, in the argument of, you know, the transgender movement and the
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indoctrination of children in British Columbia there.
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So this is all very familiar to me, but I would say my argument about, um, what the, what the
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school board did was that it was very calculated and contrived.
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I would not put it past them to have contacted Atwood, Margaret Atwood, prior to them, uh, pulling
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All of these movements require some version of a celebrity endorsement.
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And so I think you're, I think we're underestimating, uh, their abilities and their commitment
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I think to that, to that point, at least the Alberta Teachers Association actually has written
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and published a guide to teachers on how to deal with sexual matters from the perspective
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It's called the prison kit there and everybody's encouraged to go and get it.
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So there's a lot of leadership from the top that is being directed against parents and, and
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I haven't, I haven't seen that Nigel, but I will say that, um, British Columbia is sort
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of the handbook, uh, the, the, this, the tale of how every left leaning extremist group should
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And I know we're going to get into this later in the show, but in indigenous truth and
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This all starts always in British Columbia and it is embarrassing and it completely is
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counterintuitive to the judiciary and to our regulatory system and our democratic process
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And this is the argument that British Columbia parents have had as well.
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So that handbook or that guide to indoctrination, as I, as I call it, Nigel, that has probably
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roots to the BCTF, um, and some of the school boards here.
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And, uh, we're every fall, every semester, there's one teacher that's fired here or one
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school board trustee that seems to be canceled.
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And I'm, and I'm happy to see parents holding the line.
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And I think it's very important that we do that.
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Well, that's, this is a good segue, uh, to where we're going now.
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Uh, I was at the Labor Day Classic, uh, where Calgary smashed Edmonton pretty well on, um,
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And, uh, a guy also, uh, sits near me and, uh, at McMahon Stadium there told me about something
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that's going on at, uh, at a high school in Sylvan Lake, Sylvan Lake, Alberta, a small
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Uh, where a volunteer high school football coach, uh, he's coached this team for 10 years.
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Um, he had posted a video on TikTok, um, where, uh, you know, he, he said that, you know,
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trans ideology is being pushed on children aggressively and, uh, as a cure-all for anything
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I mean, no one's come through high school and not been a little bit off.
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You know, you might be depressed, you're unusual, uh, you're, you're changing, you're
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going through puberty, all these, it's a weird time in your life.
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And the trans ideology, uh, or, or just gender ideology more broadly is being pushed on children
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And, you know, he made the link that, you know, this messes up a lot of kids.
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And in some cases, it catastrophically messes them up.
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And he pointed to the example of the mass shooter in, uh, Minnesota, who went out and
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shot up, uh, a school church full of kids, killing two and injuring many more.
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Um, I mean, what he said was factually correct.
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I think it's within the broad mainstream of opinion in Alberta, probably even Canada more
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broadly, but certainly far outside the mainstream of an ideologically captured organization like
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the Alberta Teachers Association, which, as I pointed out in our last segment, has defended
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the right of a pedophile to continue teaching in Alberta schools.
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Um, that turned out to be a, probably a bit of a tactical error for them.
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But, um, he was, uh, no pun intended, sacked from his, uh, job as one of the assistant coaches,
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Um, and, uh, this is resulting in a, in a huge backlash.
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Uh, I've spoken to a ton of those students who are outraged by this.
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They say he's never once preached his politics or cultural views on the field.
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I've talked to, uh, other assistant coaches and staff who have resigned.
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Some are threatening to resign if he's not reinstated immediately.
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And they said, one of them even said, I didn't even know he held any kind of socially conservative
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views, even if you'd call that socially conservative.
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I think it's pretty damn mainstream at this point is people have gotten the courage to speak
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Um, but, uh, you know, then, uh, I talked to the principal last night and, uh, you know,
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she said, I, I, I can't, uh, I, I can't comment on this because the investigation's ongoing.
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To which I said, you mean you fired him before you investigate to which she says, I can't
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Uh, I think she realized she, uh, she stepped with it on that one.
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A guy who dedicates his time, his time to help these kids.
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I can't believe how these kids talk about this guy.
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Uh, I've had some great coaches in my life where I've never looked up to one, the way
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He sees it as his, his job to mold young boys, uh, sorry, boys into young men.
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Um, and, and then you've got, he says his, his far left, crazy woke high school principal,
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Alex Lambert is her name, uh, in Sylvan Lake who's done this and it's just created this,
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Um, and, and none of this was done on school property.
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None of this is, most of the kids didn't even know he talks about this kind of thing on
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Um, it's, it's total madness poisoning our schools.
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And I, I, I guess comes back to the theme of what we were just talking about.
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I, I don't understand why these people are so, they're not subtly pushing things anymore.
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And they didn't get the memo 2025, you can't silence us.
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You can't bully people into silence the way they have been for the last nearly decade of
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silencing people just by saying, you know, you should have said you're a racist, you're
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a sexist, you're a homophobe, you're a transphobe.
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I, I think in the end he'll be vindicated because in everything that has been declared
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to be wrong in the last five years was actually declared has been the common understanding of
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humanity through all races, all religions for however many thousand years you want to
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But this is the only society, this one that we're living in right now, this is the only
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one that has ever suggested that large numbers of young people are born in the wrongs, in
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the wrong body and ought to have been born something other than what they were and that the right
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thing to do is surgery to, to correct what nature clearly got wrong.
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So, you know, it may take a few more years yet, but eventually, and it's, I don't mean eventually
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in the distant future, I expect to live to see it, but people say, I can't believe that
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So this gentleman will have, if not a laugh, he'll have the last word and will be vindicated.
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But it goes to show the force and the incredible viciousness of people who, saying that they
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want to be kind to kids who are going through a difficult stage, actually use it as an excuse
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to sexualize them and presumably in the years to come, who knows what.
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But at any rate, they're not doing the kids any favor.
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And in the end, he will be vindicated, as will the rest of us who've taken this point of view.
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And this is the culture war we refer to in the first part of this program.
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At least, you know, when I called the principal and I called the superintendent, they were totally
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unprepared, which leads me to believe that they didn't think this would be a controversy,
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You said something that doesn't toe the party line on trans and gender ideology.
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Two years ago, they could, eh, it was starting to get tough even then.
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But three years ago, they could, they could definitely do this and no one would stand up
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Uh, and maybe there'd be a few of us, but even though, you know, most people in their
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hearts knew this was madness, that this was child abuse, uh, that were, that were harming
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Everybody knew it, or most people knew it, but everyone was afraid.
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Um, but these parents and the kids are not afraid.
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Uh, the kids have, have been taken aside and told not to speak up, leave this to the, to
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the teachers and the school board and the superintendent.
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They've been told to shut up because they've been, uh, they've been emailing, uh, their support
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for their teacher, uh, for their, uh, coach teacher.
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They've been, uh, sending their support saying, this is, this is bullshit.
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I've talked to students are calling for the firing of the principal now.
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Um, but these guys are still acting like this is 2022 and you could just shut someone up
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by using an ism or an ist and label them and shut it down.
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And I, every, and I watched your interview with him, Derek, and I thought it was a really
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interesting, uh, perspective because he, he made it very clear.
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And I, I did watch the original TikTok video and thankfully you've put some of it up there
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Um, but what I, what wasn't lost on me was everything he was saying in that regular good
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guy way was what the scientists in Europe and the medical doctors are saying about the,
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the rush to the, you know, the transgender ideology and this assumption that if a child
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and there's still a child, you know, 13, 14, 15, their front lobe is engorged.
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There's a reason, again, we don't allow them to gamble and we definitely don't want them
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vaping and we don't want them smoking and we don't want them drinking.
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Um, in BC, we obviously still give them street drugs, but it's sanctioned by the government.
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Um, but I just had to throw that in because BC is upside down land, but everything he was
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saying was regular, normal, common sense, Canadian way of really his interpretation.
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Whether he understood this or not is what Europe and the UK have put forward, which is something
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Canada is not doing, which is a, and in simple terms that the, Hey, slow down, step back.
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You can't identify as one gender or another when you're 10, we are going to reset the rules.
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I, and I was quite surprised, surprised when the UK made that shift, but the courts had
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So politically, I don't think they had another exit strategy, but the EU has taken that,
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A lot of what we see with preteen and teenage kids, especially for girls.
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And I'm a girl mom is their, you, their front lobe is actually engorged with blood.
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When I say it's like them being tipsy, like a drunk driver, and there is a constant stream
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of emotions and what they like on a Monday, they won't like on a Tuesday.
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And if you have a depressed girl and girls, I hate to say this, I'm not sure if you gentlemen
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know this, but teenage or preteen girls are most targeted to the gender, um, ideology
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Those are the trans activists are targeting preteen and teenage girls.
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That is the majority of the group they're looking to.
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And so we are once again, not only having to deal with men in our washrooms and men in
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our sports and men in our spaces, but we actually have activists that are actively targeting,
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uh, young women who are expressing or young girls who are expressing depression and certain
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And that is not because they don't identify as being a woman.
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And this world is, I hate to say it is a pretty awful world right now.
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Limited, um, you know, social interactions are contributing to this.
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Um, and, and I agree with you, the problem that you have in Alberta, which is what the
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BCTF has realized here in school birds have realized here is the alarm gets rung very quickly.
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Now, if they start firing or canceling people and they can, you know, Edmonton school board
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or sorry, the Edmonton or other teachers in Alberta, other school boards, they are playing
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these games that the BCTF was playing maybe five, six years ago, uh, Derek.
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And I would recommend that they, you know, kind of get to the end of the book and see
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how it's worked for the BCTF, how it's worked for the teachers.
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I hope that he continues on his campaign to speak for freedom of speech.
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You know, Corey, I think the libertarian in me has died.
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I, I, I used to agree that I will defend to the death your right to say something if I
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disagree with it, but it's only one side playing by those rules.
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And if it's only our side playing by those rules, we will lose every time.
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That's why the right loses every culture war battle, uh, until extremely recently, it's
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lost every battle because we buy play by one set of rules.
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Uh, you know, when we were talking about foict, uh, concerts getting canceled by the
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left, I, you know, I said, you know, maybe, maybe we, uh, we need to break the Geneva
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convention to make them, uh, agree to sign the Geneva convention here.
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We're going to cancel some left-wing concerts just to show them we can do it too.
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Um, they cancel volunteers for expressing a pretty non-controversial opinion that just
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I, I, I think we have to take the gloves off here.
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We don't just, we don't, we don't, uh, we don't accept that.
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Okay, well, you know, we're going to limit it to fine.
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I think we have to purge our schools of these people when the other people are in power.
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I think we have to fight back just as hard now.
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And when we say cultural war, I'm not, I mean the war, the word war very lightly.
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I think this, this, we're now fighting for the soul of Western civilization and we can't
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control everything everywhere, but we can control it here at home in Alberta.
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I think we need to damn right purge our schools.
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This principle needs to be fired, but then we need to start proactively going after the
00:32:08.220
others because they proactively come after our people.
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And we're the only ones fighting by the rules of war here.
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And if only one side's fighting about it, you're going to lose.
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Well, and I appreciate that you brought up the name of the principle.
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Some of the people are going to be held responsible for this because what we need to do is turn
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the camera back towards the mob and the pitchforks because we always keep the camera on the
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And even if the person gets away that they were chasing, the mob has gotten away with
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impunity and they need to be exposed for who they are and what they've done.
00:32:39.260
They need to stand up then and defend or try to, and I don't think they can, what they've
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been doing because they've gotten away with it.
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The school board of Edmonton in this coming election in two months from now, I hope there's
00:32:57.440
candidates running against them with brochures saying this one supported this material in
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Turn the camera back to them because right now it's always on defense.
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It's always the person who's been accused and they have to defend themselves, but we
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forget who's the one accusing, who's the one with the finger pointing, who's the one
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In this case, it's that school board in Edmonton.
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And yes, we have to push back, not canceling, even it's still democratic.
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Enough parents phone up and say, look, I don't want that person entrusted with my children
00:33:29.320
in that school because she's got a vendetta against free speech.
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That's where some of the people got to get off their own butts.
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I'm canceling all those books, banning those books and maintaining porn in Alberta libraries.
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I bet you they didn't run on the basis that this is what they would do if the issue came.
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I think that would be possibly the single greatest, more selective piece of political
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You know, everyone at the doors gets these boring brochures with a smiling politician.
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They'll literally print off some of the porn that the incumbent school trustees at Edmonton
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And put their face on it and say, this candidate supports this material in your children's classroom.
00:34:25.040
There was one person today who discussed the idea of having principals and assistants or
00:34:34.560
If the left is going to hijack education and trying to indoctrinate our kids prior to even,
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you know, grade one, then what is the answer going to be?
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Because parents are feeling like they're losing control.
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And a very legitimate person I was speaking to today said, you know, brought up the idea
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But the more that's marinated, you know, in my brain throughout the day, the more I think
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that might be something places like Alberta and Saskatchewan look at.
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Saskatchewan has a very similar problem with the types of books that Alberta has, the minister
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I mean, they actually might even have it a little worse.
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So, you know, we need to be looking to the story, chasing the story to Saskatchewan.
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And I suspect something will be bubbling up in the next few days there as well.
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Our Saskatchewan reporter, Chris Oldcorn, exposed some of the very, very sick things
00:35:31.480
that have been peddled in schools in Saskatchewan to very young kids.
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I think the answer is actually to abolish our public school systems and convert every single
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The board then elects the superintendent or chooses the superintendent and the principal,
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I don't think as a parent, I actually have the qualifications to probably figure out who
00:36:08.640
And you limit the voting, here's the big kicker, to just the parents at the school, not everyone
00:36:15.080
around so that the union, which is the only organized entity, that's why the unions win
00:36:19.540
these school board elections almost every single time.
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They have a vested conflict of interest in electing friendly boards themselves.
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You limit the franchise purely to the mother and the father of the children going to that school.
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And I bet you real quick, you're going to get better outcomes.
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You're going to get rid of a lot of these crappy teachers.
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You're going to get rid of the teachers who are trying to hold parents hostage by threatening
00:36:46.860
a strike just as school comes back, not holding their strike in the middle of the summer when
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they're getting paid to sit around doing nothing.
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I suspect as the weeks go on, Derek, there'll be part two, part three, part four, et cetera,
00:37:08.180
because I think this is an issue that's really resonating with Canadians, not just parents.
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B.C. has been doing quite a brisk business as of late and just handing land over to different
00:37:28.180
You know, in some cases there might be legitimate disputes to title.
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B.C. did not have nice neat treaties the way we did in Alberta.
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There's a lot of room for nuance in these things, granted.
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But on a grand scale, B.C. has been leading the way in handing land over.
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B.C. or allowing bands to declare that this park is off limits to everyone with the wrong color of skin.
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But then it's gone to a whole new level in Manitoba, Nigel.
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Well, you know, Derek, there is a bigger picture that is starting to emerge from the mist and the shadows here.
00:38:12.240
And that is that when we hear about, for example, the graves story,
00:38:18.580
children were murdered, give us money, we'll go and look for it.
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Well, nobody has turned up, nobody has even done the excavations.
00:38:28.500
But the stigma of the allegation that children were murdered remains and it is used as a moral weapon to lever us,
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everybody who is not indigenous, into granting more and more privilege in the name of reconciliation.
00:38:52.060
Because everybody is in favor of reconciliation, even if they are not quite sure what they are reconciling for.
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But what we are seeing now is a very, we are seeing a start of a land back movement,
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where land is returned full title to indigenous peoples.
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And I think that this present government that we have is wholly in favor of it.
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Derek just mentioned a moment ago that there was a land deal that has to be tested in court,
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but a court rule that land in Richmond needed to be returned to the people who are traditional to that area.
00:39:38.480
Then you had Mr. Eby giving special privileges to the indigenous peoples when it comes to approval of development.
00:39:51.500
In the north of British Columbia, you have something called an indigenous protected and conserved area.
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And this is a federal idea, but B.C. has bought right into it, where basically you can't move.
00:40:07.900
If you can't do any serious exploration or development without the whole, never mind the court-ordered provisions,
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you can't, the indigenous peoples of that area have control.
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Derek raised that question right at the start of this program.
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They said, look, this is not the government saying.
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It's just saying the local band there is declaring it, and nobody's objecting.
00:40:43.980
But if you're not indigenous, then you don't get to hunt in that part of Manitoba.
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So what you're seeing here, what the developing picture is, is more and more demands that are not resisted.
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And you have to ask, well, where does it end, and where do you think indigenous people think it's going to end?
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What does our federal government think about it?
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So that brings me to my question for you, Elise.
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We seem to be, our governments, our betters seem to be willing and able partners in this.
00:41:30.700
This is the billion-dollar question, multi-billion-dollar question.
00:41:36.480
So just to provide a little bit more context and to expand on what Nigel was talking about,
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this actually, this land creep began very quietly almost a year ago.
00:41:53.140
It actually began in some parks outside of Metro Vancouver, I would say, just to sort of give a good geographical sense.
00:42:04.520
This, ironically, was traveling down the political highway at the same speed that the EB government was putting forward their own Bill C-5,
00:42:15.560
which is to rush projects forward, to move without much consent.
00:42:20.480
Even the business community was against it because it had a lot of regulatory issues, but it passed no matter what.
00:42:31.220
You've got, here you can have all the land you want.
00:42:40.400
And at the same time, we've passed this legislation.
00:42:43.480
It is a political and regulatory, chaotic, hot dumpster fire in British Columbia.
00:42:51.020
Businesses, if you look, the AC is in a recession.
00:42:58.540
We've had land grabs in very prominent, very high public use parks.
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The beach in Tofino grabbed national interest because I think it was most recognizable to those that are outside of British Columbia.
00:43:15.020
But this land creep has actually, or these land grabs have actually are more numerous.
00:43:21.160
And even recently over the past weekend, another First Nations group came together and refused to reopen access to the public.
00:43:35.320
And as you might know, we're reaching 37, 38, even 40 degrees today on the West Coast, which is breaking all sorts of records.
00:43:42.900
And these are places that families need to go because we don't have air conditioning here.
00:43:47.620
There's kids that want to have access to these parks and these pools and these lakes, and they can't have access to it.
00:43:56.120
They're also schizophrenic in most of their approaches.
00:44:00.400
And unfortunately, I don't think our opposition, led by John Rustad, has been strong enough or loud enough or at least presented what I would consider to be a legal path forward.
00:44:12.240
He has made some comments about the Richmond land grab and, yes, and what their ideas are around it.
00:44:21.040
But what we really need in this province is a group of legal experts to come forward and tell us what the options are, because you can see where this is going.
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I hate to put a pin in there, but we're out of time.
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We have to do a truncated version of parting shots.
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I'm going to give the first one to Corey, since I didn't let you have lost word on that segment.
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The civic elections lining up in Alberta and Calgary.
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Gondek is in the lead, the most unpopular mayor in living history.
00:44:52.780
You can't put her back in after that performance.
00:44:55.520
And people on the non-socialist side should probably figure out and get behind one candidate.
00:45:02.800
So it's pretty clear what the federal government's approach to unemployment is.
00:45:23.600
Canada is now officially in a technical recession.
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If you think it's bad now, I think we wait for the worst.
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And God help Ontario and their subnational debt.
00:45:39.220
And I want to give a tip of the hat to Juno News, our friendly competitor.
00:45:45.100
They had a great story just the other day that, you know, we have to bring in temporary foreign workers because there's just not enough Canadians working.
00:45:55.820
The CBC is using the temporary foreign worker program.
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We have to subsidize and save journalism in Canada.
00:46:04.360
But we're going to import people to work for the CBC.
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