Western Standard - The Pipeline： Kenney's QR Vaxport, Equalization and DST, The Senate Election

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00:04:00.000 Good day. I'm Derek Fildebrandt. Today is October 14th? 14th? Something like that. I do this every

00:04:23.180 time. 13th. There you go. Today is October 13th, 2021. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the

00:04:30.560 Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline. Today we're going to be going through some very

00:04:35.820 interesting topics. Alberta Premier Jason Kenney announcing the rollout of the QR code for vaccine

00:04:42.760 passports. I'm sure there's not been problems in any other provinces. We're going to be talking

00:04:47.780 about the dueling referendums coming up for Albertans on October 18th. That'll be referendums

00:04:54.560 on equalization and daylight savings time. And if you're in Calgary, we get to talk about fluoride

00:04:59.500 again. That's fun. And Alberta's Senate election race. Really not getting much coverage anywhere

00:05:06.160 else. I don't even know if you guys are interested, but we're talking about it anyway. So I hope you

00:05:10.400 are. Before we get started today, I want to thank all of our Western Standard members for your

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00:05:32.960 complete access to all Western Standard content. We have a great team here at the Western Standard

00:05:38.300 working to provide you with genuine, Western, independent, bailout-free media that doesn't

00:05:44.620 take any money from the government. I think it's worth it. I don't know about you guys.

00:05:49.400 Do you want anything? Yeah. It's okay. Perhaps you might want to introduce us, though. I'm going to.

00:05:54.620 Oh, okay. I'm going to. I thought you'd forgotten. No. Okay. No. Maybe. Maybe I didn't. Maybe you did.

00:06:00.780 Well, okay. Fine. To this side, I got the Western Standard News Editor, Dave Naylor,

00:06:05.640 joining us today. How you doing, Dave? I'm good. You don't think it's a bit too early to be bringing

00:06:09.940 out the Christmas ties? I had green on and green does not work in a green studio. It would have

00:06:16.420 looked like someone caught me with a sword from neck to navel. Not everybody would be opposed to

00:06:22.320 that look. Well, I'm not even introducing you. And then to my other side is some guy who we

00:06:28.840 invite in here to say angry things from time to time. Some call him Cory Morgan. Before we get

00:06:35.940 into the show as well, though, I want to

00:06:38.040 just give a shout-out to a

00:06:39.940 new show from the Western Standard that premiered

00:06:41.940 last night, Western Standard Uncensored.

00:06:44.960 This is, I think,

00:06:45.880 a great new show. We had a great

00:06:48.040 premiere of it last night

00:06:49.340 at 7 o'clock live.

00:06:51.920 It's moderated by

00:06:54.000 Bruce McAllister.

00:06:57.080 And on the panel, we've

00:06:57.920 got Danielle Smith and Rob

00:06:59.860 Anderson. We had a special guest.

00:07:01.680 Those will kind of be the three core members of

00:07:03.940 this, but we had another guest come in for

00:07:05.880 the evening, Bill Buick. All of these hail from my time and before when I was in the

00:07:12.000 Wild Rose party. I think these are some really smart individuals who have a lot to add and

00:07:17.080 they're going to be talking about tough issues that you're not going to see covered much

00:07:20.180 elsewhere in the mainstream media and certainly not with perspectives that you're going to

00:07:23.460 be seeing in the government funded media. So check it out if you haven't already. This

00:07:27.720 is going to be a fairly, probably a weekly, possibly bi-weekly show. We're going to figure

00:07:32.540 that out as we go. But if the reaction is good from you guys, we're going to make it

00:07:36.460 as frequently as we possibly can. As well, a programming note on October 18th. Is that

00:07:43.300 Monday next week? Monday. See, I know some dates. It's just not today's. October 18th,

00:07:48.820 Monday next week, we're going to have a live election slash referendum night special. We're

00:07:55.420 going to be in the Western Standard Studio and with some correspondence spread across

00:07:59.320 Alberta, covering the municipal elections. I have to admit, the municipal elections will probably

00:08:06.640 focus largely on Calgary and Edmonton, but we're going to do our best to cover some of at least

00:08:11.740 the medium-sized cities in Alberta. I apologize. Lacrete and Rosemary, we're probably not going

00:08:20.880 to have live election coverage coming from villages like this, but we're going to do our

00:08:24.880 best to not make this too Calgary and Edmonton focused because we know Alberta does not end

00:08:29.560 at the two big cities' boundaries.

00:08:32.100 But we're also going to be covering the equalization referendum with live results coming in.

00:08:37.160 In fact, we're going to have some polling on that probably even later today, I hope,

00:08:41.360 that we're going to get released to you.

00:08:44.060 We're going to be covering the daylight savings time referendum as the results come in.

00:08:49.200 And then, of course, the fluoride referendum.

00:08:52.340 Everybody's talking about it.

00:08:53.340 I'm a one-issue voter. Fluoride. I just don't know what side of the issue I'm on.

00:08:58.920 Okay, well, let's get started. Speaking of, well, no, we're going to get the equalization in a bit.

00:09:05.020 We're going to start with Alberta Premier Jason Kenney introducing a QR code for the mandatory

00:09:11.460 vaccine passport in Alberta. Dave, take it away.

00:09:14.880 Kenny announced this at a press conference yesterday. By November 15th, Derek, everybody

00:09:20.240 in the province is going to have to have one to prove that they're vaccinated to to get into

00:09:24.720 places like bars and restaurants and and cinemas uh you just download it uh on onto your your phone

00:09:32.800 and your card and uh when you go to a bar you they'll have a machine you scan it and if you've

00:09:39.040 had your vaccinations it'll flash a little green light and you'll be able to uh you'll be able to

00:09:44.080 enter. Show and go, I think is what the Premier called it. He claims that there will be no

00:09:51.580 health information in there and there's absolutely no risk of anybody getting into it or hacking

00:09:57.860 it. Saskatchewan tried this similar thing last month and it only lasted 24 hours before

00:10:04.460 somebody hacked into it and they had to pull the whole system down and start again. So

00:10:10.840 I'm sure as soon as they can, the hackers will be out there trying their damnedest and we'll see how the program works.

00:10:18.740 Well, my deepest sympathies for the Saskatchewan government.

00:10:21.400 Big government is hard.

00:10:23.100 I mean, setting up a police state, it takes time and patience and serious technology people.

00:10:29.100 China can do this stuff because they've been doing it forever. 0.99

00:10:32.180 It's a bit harder when we're trying to make the great leap forward for this kind of security to keep people safe.

00:10:40.280 I know they had a great case.

00:10:42.660 My favorite QR code hacking was actually in Quebec,

00:10:46.140 where people got the QR codes of the Premier and the Health Minister.

00:10:48.880 So people would be, I don't know, they're going to a bar in Quebec.

00:10:52.500 They're in Trois-Rivières somewhere, and they go to the bar.

00:10:54.520 They try to get in.

00:10:55.580 You scan it, and, well, I'm Francois Legault.

00:10:59.620 I got my pass.

00:11:01.000 I'm good to go in.

00:11:02.760 Corey, they're saying there's no information in it.

00:11:06.800 It's just show and go, I don't know, I prefer with the government, I'll show you, you show

00:11:11.800 me a mine, I'll show you, I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

00:11:15.680 I'd like to see something from a government, but do you think, how long do you think until

00:11:20.060 these things get either hacked or duplicated and the whole system falls apart?

00:11:24.360 I don't know, I hope not long.

00:11:26.400 I mean, if they really want to, you know, look into the world of apps, get government

00:11:30.500 bureaucrats out of it and consult with the porn websites. 1.00

00:11:34.460 Those guys are always 10 years ahead on every technological advancement online.

00:11:38.460 What is this, 10 seconds into Corey?

00:11:40.460 Five or 10 seconds?

00:11:42.460 I'm giving good advice on economic diversification and how the government can finally get something right.

00:11:48.460 Those guys secure their stuff.

00:11:50.460 Well hey, in BC they were talking about contracting Pornhub to build glory holes.

00:11:54.460 So this is not actually as far out.

00:11:58.460 I'm not sure if you at home can hear this, but our producer James is dying over there.

00:12:03.460 there. I think he's got COVID. But that aside, I mean, this is not reinventing the wheel. QR codes

00:12:09.100 have been used successfully for a lot of things for a long time. Unfortunately, if anybody's going

00:12:13.400 to be able to bugger up and establish technology, it's government. And I honestly hope they get it

00:12:19.460 right. Like businesses, whether you agree or disagree and the whole works of it, they're

00:12:23.640 getting crushed by this purgatory status they're stuck in. Their front end people are getting

00:12:28.740 abused by people when they turn them away uh there are people coming through who just print

00:12:33.340 out documents that appear that they've been vaccinated or not surely no one knows how to

00:12:38.120 use photoshop ah yes so i i could just you know and this gets back to a lot of other things i

00:12:44.240 remember a big presser with notly i believe it was in august standing there with a big printout

00:12:48.660 of a qr code as you say quite often if you want to see what jason kennedy is going to do just see

00:12:52.720 what notly did a little while ago they've come right around to the qr codes but now we're in

00:12:57.020 them, we've got them. I just hope they get it right. I don't hold out a lot of hope.

00:13:02.140 You want them to get it right? I want them to get it wrong. This should hopefully be

00:13:06.860 a complete disaster and we get it thrown out again. We can just go back to photoshopping

00:13:10.500 these things. Well, and I'll use a localized example. My wife Jane was holding a course 0.51

00:13:15.480 for some things she was doing. She scheduled it, she had it fully booked, was ready to

00:13:19.260 go, literally like three days before the course was going to be held. The new restrictions

00:13:24.120 came in, it got shut down, can't do it, refunded everybody's money, all that preparation down

00:13:28.440 the tube. This is one example of thousands and thousands of small businesses that are

00:13:31.660 having a hell of a time trying to get anything done because you don't know day by day what's

00:13:35.800 going to be happening. I'm not saying I want the QR code just to fail. I want it all to fail.

00:13:41.100 Oh, I understand. And looking at the broader picture, that's a bigger thing to look at.

00:13:45.160 But we're just looking from that perspective of bar owners who are dealing with these troubles,

00:13:49.380 store owners, it gives them a means at least, you know, I can scan it, I can set something up,

00:13:54.020 I can actually do it, because right now it's day by day. Well, Corey, I guess, you know,

00:13:59.240 the Western Standard is going to be compliant with the vaccine passport, so your job is now 1.00

00:14:02.980 to stand at the door and scan the codes of everyone coming in, and be polite to them.

00:14:09.560 We should apply for the $2,000 grant then. I was thinking that. It's not the media bailout,

00:14:16.380 It is from the government, but it's not the media bailout.

00:14:18.680 I mean...

00:14:19.380 We could donate it to something of fun use, actually, I'm sure if we do.

00:14:23.360 We'll donate it to free Photoshop downloads for people.

00:14:25.980 I like that.

00:14:26.980 There we go.

00:14:28.160 Okay, well, let's move it on.

00:14:30.140 We have dueling three referendums if you live in Calgary coming up.

00:14:34.920 Maybe there's a couple other referendums in smaller communities around Alberta.

00:14:38.360 But two across Alberta and one more in Calgary.

00:14:42.080 Equalization, daylight savings.

00:14:43.720 We're not going to get in the floor.

00:14:44.540 I don't know what the hell.

00:14:46.380 I don't know.

00:14:48.380 This is one of the few things where I actually prefer someone smart figure it out.

00:14:53.380 I want to vote on half of what the government does.

00:14:56.380 I think a lot more direct democracy would be good.

00:14:58.380 But let's make it on broad general issues, not what does some nerdy dentist say about fluoride.

00:15:05.380 I don't know.

00:15:06.380 Or daylight savings time.

00:15:07.380 And daylight savings time.

00:15:08.380 No one knows.

00:15:09.380 So we had a great guest column that we published over the weekend.

00:15:15.380 Dr. Antle from the University of Calgary.

00:15:19.380 Sleep scientist, basically.

00:15:21.380 I'm sure it's invigorating work.

00:15:23.380 Yeah.

00:15:24.380 Be good doing research.

00:15:26.380 Yeah.

00:15:27.380 Just napping all day.

00:15:28.380 Yeah, like I paid sleep.

00:15:30.380 Yeah.

00:15:31.380 So, really, I have really nothing to say about daylight savings.

00:15:34.380 I only had one question for him.

00:15:35.380 How does it affect duck hunting?

00:15:36.380 And he said, well, is your duck hunting done before November 7th?

00:15:39.380 I said, yeah.

00:15:40.380 He's like, well, no matter what happens, it doesn't change that.

00:15:42.380 So, fine.

00:15:44.380 But, I don't know, maybe why don't you just quickly summarize his argument in the column and just so we have some information for people about what this bloody referendum is about.

00:15:55.880 Yeah, well he thought it was good when he first heard that there was going to be a referendum, but he did some more looking at it and says no, this is not a good thing.

00:16:06.380 And you look at, if you live in northern Alberta, you're not going to see the sun in the winter

00:16:11.120 until 10 o'clock in the morning. It's, you know, it's just craziness. So he made a persuasive

00:16:21.180 argument. The story is still on the front page of our website. So I encourage everybody to go

00:16:26.600 and take a look at it. But he's definitely a hard no. And, you know, he lays out all his reasons,

00:16:34.280 including those late, late sunrises. I mean, could you imagine living in Hinton or something like that and not seeing the sun until almost lunchtime?

00:16:43.280 Hinton is your example of far northern Alberta?

00:16:45.280 Well, you know, it's...

00:16:46.280 I thought I was a southerner.

00:16:47.280 La Crete then, how's that?

00:16:49.280 Well, Frank, I think everything north of Erdry is practically Edmonton.

00:16:52.280 Exactly.

00:16:54.280 Alright, well I think we have a bit more to say about equalization. I just don't know much about daylight savings time.

00:17:01.280 One equalization is coming up, Albertans vote on Monday, Dave, why don't you tell, how is

00:17:09.060 it coming along right now, what's expected, I know we were promising people some polling

00:17:13.040 data, we were teasing that last week, we were trying to raise money for it, we got the money.

00:17:18.280 Why don't you kind of set the table, what can we expect on Monday?

00:17:21.040 Well I think when Premier Kenney first announced the vote, everybody thought it was going to

00:17:24.800 be a slam dunk.

00:17:26.520 course Albertans don't want to see billions and billions going out and not getting anything

00:17:31.520 in return and seeing Quebec balance their budget with equalization payments and Alberta

00:17:37.340 struggling with billions of dollars worth of debt.

00:17:40.660 So when the referendum was announced, I think everybody thought, oh, easy, 95% are going

00:17:47.960 to oppose equalization or demand changes.

00:17:50.780 But the personal unpopularity of Kenny is making the vote tight.

00:17:56.900 And it's going to be a lot closer than a lot of people initially thought, I think, Derek.

00:18:00.800 And it's certainly not a slam dunk at this point.

00:18:06.160 And I think the numbers in our poll later on today will show that.

00:18:10.660 Yeah, so I don't want to give too much, but I've been begging our pollster for some results.

00:18:16.200 So we have a preliminary rough understanding.

00:18:20.300 So I might have to eat this in just a few hours when we have the numbers, but the preliminary

00:18:24.160 results that we've gotten, again, not official, is that it's about 60% intend to vote yes,

00:18:31.100 that is to remove equalization from the Constitution.

00:18:35.800 Corey, what are your, I mean, I guess, I agree with Dave, maybe not, it was probably never

00:18:42.740 going to be 95%, but I expect it to be 75, 80%, and I think in normal times we probably

00:18:48.200 would achieve that. Do you think the unpopularity of Premier

00:18:53.120 Kenney is the primary driving factor behind this? Or is it perhaps that Albertans are

00:18:59.600 just kind of losing interest on the issue?

00:19:01.200 A bit of everything. And in some of it, there's some heavy duty opponents. You know, the people

00:19:05.640 who love the status quo, like Andrew Leach, Notley's favorite economist, has been beating

00:19:11.840 on this right from day one to saying, you're wasting your time. We shouldn't be wasting

00:19:16.000 even ballot money on this, we shouldn't be doing this.

00:19:18.300 They're using every approach they can

00:19:20.780 to keep people from voting against this.

00:19:22.640 And plus, of course, they're trying to say,

00:19:24.780 do this to give Kenny the finger.

00:19:26.340 That is what they're doing.

00:19:27.580 I hope and think most Albertans see through that.

00:19:30.780 I mean, if anything, you're still allowed

00:19:32.460 to be upset with Kenny before voting on this thing

00:19:35.160 and after on this thing.

00:19:37.220 We need to separate it.

00:19:38.320 I hope Albertans and I think, you know,

00:19:40.020 they're brighter and that's what we're gonna see.

00:19:41.520 I think 60, 65 against, it would have been higher

00:19:44.000 if they hadn't managed to have such an anti-campaign,

00:19:47.060 such a, you know, turn back and ask people,

00:19:48.900 so you're pro-equalization, you're pro this broken system

00:19:52.280 that has stunted the economic development of Canada for decades?

00:19:55.700 That's a pretty indefensible point.

00:19:57.420 Well, they don't seem to be able to run, to fight those guys

00:20:00.720 because there is no yes campaign from the government.

00:20:03.380 Because, I mean, Kenny is no dummy.

00:20:06.060 He knows that if soon as he puts his face on television

00:20:09.080 and tells people that, and gets out there and puts his face on this,

00:20:13.700 it could actually lose.

00:20:14.780 I expect it to pass without a triumphal margin,

00:20:17.200 but probably pass comfortably,

00:20:18.960 just not the supermajority we'd expect.

00:20:21.000 But if Kenny goes out on the television

00:20:22.780 and starts trying to hold rallies,

00:20:24.440 who knows how many shows up to them,

00:20:25.940 but if Kenny went out there and started campaigning,

00:20:28.540 we'd probably see this thing fail.

00:20:30.080 So this means that there is no big organized yes campaign.

00:20:33.940 There are some groups, fightequalization.ca,

00:20:36.380 that's Canadian Taxpayers Federation,

00:20:38.020 and I think a few other groups working together.

00:20:40.620 But that's not particularly well funded.

00:20:42.820 It's, you know, just kind of these ragtag groups doing their thing. 1.00

00:20:48.180 Normally when the government launches a referendum, it, you know, does something, but they can't.

00:20:53.800 Kenny's already lowering expectations.

00:20:56.260 He said this week, you know, he only needs 50% plus one, right?

00:21:00.060 I mean, to me, that would be an abject failure.

00:21:04.260 You know, he was certainly when he announced it, hoping for a lot larger majority, but

00:21:09.920 He says he'll be happy with, you know, just the 50%.

00:21:13.080 I mean, one of the main critiques of Kenny, I think,

00:21:15.400 from those of us on the conservative end of the spectrum has been

00:21:17.540 the Fair Deal panel has just been a farce kicking it down the road.

00:21:20.720 He's been weak with Ottawa.

00:21:21.780 That's a lot of why he's lost his base.

00:21:24.520 This was one of the things you came through on.

00:21:27.100 So, I mean, at least show him, again, get out there,

00:21:29.300 don't worry about Kenny and so on, vote on this,

00:21:32.580 because he can use this as an excuse not to carry forward

00:21:35.320 with these other things too.

00:21:36.380 He'd say, well, Auburn's aren't really that,

00:21:37.580 Apparently they're comfortable with Ottawa and the way things are.

00:21:40.160 So we don't need to do all the other stuff that I promised in order to get elected.

00:21:44.480 Get out there and vote on this one.

00:21:47.160 Well, I'm not, the problem is, like, yeah, I'm going to vote yes. 1.00

00:21:51.140 Get rid of the damn thing. 0.99

00:21:52.720 But nothing's going to happen. 1.00

00:21:54.860 The only way anything would happen is if you, if I say, Corey, I'm angry at you.

00:22:03.380 And I want you to do something.

00:22:05.220 And you're going to say, or what?

00:22:08.660 And this is, so voting yes in this referendum is saying,

00:22:11.940 Corey, I'm really angry and I'd like you to change.

00:22:14.520 And then you're going to say, or what?

00:22:16.300 And I'm going to say, or nothing.

00:22:18.420 Alberta has no gun pointed at Ottawa saying, you fix this or else.

00:22:24.120 And so we're going to have this and it'll, I'm sure it'll feel good,

00:22:28.400 but nothing's going to happen.

00:22:29.420 Well, let's help and load the gun for our man in Edmonton,

00:22:31.800 who has been weak-kneed with Ottawa since he got in despite his tough talk.

00:22:35.220 So, again, it's more pressure to say, look, we want you to do something on this.

00:22:39.740 Do it during your last couple of months in power.

00:22:42.600 Hunter Buck says within two years, nothing changes.

00:22:47.160 Well, the leader of the UCP might.

00:22:49.860 Okay, yeah, but the equalization formula, nothing's changing unless something crazy happens.

00:22:55.260 Corey becomes the UCP leader and the premier of the province.

00:22:58.620 Well, then it'd be called foreign aid.

00:23:03.940 Fair enough.

00:23:05.220 Okay. Well, let's turn towards the Senate election. Dave, we've got six candidates running from the CPC and PPC and a number of other independents. Maybe set the table of where are the different campaigns at right now and what are your predictions for what happens on Monday with the Senate election?

00:23:23.480 I think it'll be a case of if the voters educated themselves, if they know what they're voting for, or if they're just going to blindly vote along party lines.

00:23:35.160 You know, the People's Party of Canada was picking up support in Alberta when the election, federal election ended.

00:23:42.320 Does that momentum continue?

00:23:43.900 Do they, does their slate of candidates get elected?

00:23:47.900 Or does Alberta, as they normally do, vote a conservative slate in?

00:23:55.120 I think it remains to be seen.

00:23:56.740 I think it could go either way.

00:23:59.200 And then the question is, will Trudeau ever appoint any of them?

00:24:04.960 And he certainly...

00:24:06.360 You're a funny guy.

00:24:08.640 I'm here all week.

00:24:09.740 And, you know, he certainly snubbed Alberta when he appointed the last senator from the

00:24:16.920 province.

00:24:17.920 You know, he could have chosen an elected one, but he didn't.

00:24:20.040 He chose the mayor of Banff.

00:24:23.660 So yeah, it's an important issue.

00:24:25.620 And as you said, it's not getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream media.

00:24:31.900 But it is, yes, it's almost like the equalization vote.

00:24:37.260 It's a way to show your disdain for the current system by getting out there and voting for

00:24:42.980 the Senator of your choice and hopefully one day they live long enough to get appointed.

00:24:48.080 Predictions?

00:24:49.080 I think it'll probably be, why don't we split it, let's say two Conservatives, one PPC.

00:24:56.380 You think a PPC will get them to the top three, eh?

00:24:59.380 Maybe.

00:25:00.380 Third.

00:25:01.380 Corey, I guess two questions.

00:25:03.980 And is there any point to these Senate elections anymore?

00:25:07.480 I mean, there's a 0% chance any of them are really going to the Senate likely.

00:25:11.480 Maybe I'll eat my words, but I don't think so.

00:25:14.100 Let's say less than 1%.

00:25:15.700 And what do you think is going to happen?

00:25:17.020 Well, there's less than 1% with the current Prime Minister.

00:25:19.500 I mean, that may change.

00:25:20.780 I believe it's, what, a five or eight year mandate for elected Senators to sit in waiting.

00:25:26.960 So perhaps the government might have changed radically within a few years and then a new

00:25:30.680 government wants to appoint them.

00:25:32.580 I mean, over the course of the next two years, there's no way they're getting in.

00:25:37.480 I still think it's important.

00:25:39.300 We're making our points.

00:25:40.380 I'd rather stand on principle than loose, and at least just keep pushing and saying.

00:25:44.520 So we will have some high ground to stand on when Trudeau picks some liberal hack.

00:25:48.860 David Kahn or somebody who did their time leading the flaccid Alberta Liberal Party

00:25:52.760 and give them their reward in the Senate, much like Grant Mitchell and others.

00:25:57.100 We have much more ground to get upset.

00:25:59.780 One of the things they can't counter with was, well, who would you rather see?

00:26:02.140 Well, we did tell you who we'd rather see.

00:26:04.180 We put that in front of you and you refused to acknowledge it.

00:26:07.280 So it's a limited exercise, but I still support it.

00:26:11.220 Second part of my question, what's your prediction?

00:26:13.580 I'm with Dave on it.

00:26:15.700 The two and one, perhaps, if the PPC can concentrate that support.

00:26:19.580 It's difficult, though, because a conservative supporter is going to go out

00:26:21.800 and probably pick all three conservatives. 0.88

00:26:23.660 The PPC is going to come out and pick all three PPC,

00:26:26.600 and they don't concentrate it on one person.

00:26:28.760 I mean, strategically, in this unique kind of election,

00:26:31.580 It's difficult. The PPC might have been better to have one candidate to just try and stand out and garner that much focused voting.

00:26:39.580 It's really weird math, because if you did just one candidate, I would suppose, maybe not all, but a lot of PPC voters would say they'd vote for their one PPC candidate,

00:26:49.580 and then the Tories get extra two votes on everything else, and then it would put them way over the top.

00:26:55.580 Actually, if you don't run three, there's almost a 0% chance any of them would.

00:26:58.580 Yeah, so I missed that on that.

00:26:59.740 So, no, hopefully, you know, I'd like to flavor it up.

00:27:03.280 The game theory around Senate elections, because there's three, and it's not preferential.

00:27:07.840 If it was preferential ballot, I would agree, but it's not preferential.

00:27:10.740 It's just three equal votes with three equal standings.

00:27:13.660 And part of what hurt this, too, was, again, unfortunately, our Premier here just can't seem to get anything right,

00:27:19.900 went and made this a federal party issue.

00:27:22.020 It was always provincial ones, always.

00:27:23.540 I remember Reform actually had to form a provincial branch of a party just so that they could run candidates.

00:27:28.900 This is getting a long time back.

00:27:30.680 Is that what happened?

00:27:31.480 If you remember way back, because they kept that Reform party actually registered as a provincial party in Alberta for quite some years,

00:27:37.580 even though they never did anything for years.

00:27:38.940 It's still registered?

00:27:39.620 Is it still?

00:27:40.260 Randy Thornton said that.

00:27:42.440 Either way, well, that's a new one.

00:27:45.400 But it used to be a provincial endeavor, and you had a variety of parties.

00:27:48.500 And it was a provincial party only for the purpose of Senate candidates.

00:27:50.780 Yes, exactly.

00:27:51.640 Exactly. And now, you know, with Premier Kennedy doing it this way, you have to be a federal party, so the Wilders Independence Party is out.

00:27:59.580 But the federal parties can't spend money. You then have to have a provincial party behind it, but the provincial party doesn't appear on the ballot.

00:28:04.760 It's a ridiculous thing, you know. It's a bizarre system. 0.79

00:28:06.480 And the Alberta party, perhaps? Maybe they would have thrown somebody in if they'd had the chance. Who knows?

00:28:10.840 But now we've got what we've got.

00:28:13.580 Yeah. Well, at the very least, no one can, there's no boogeyman about splitting the vote.

00:28:17.560 because, well, other than some independents running,

00:28:21.100 like there's no lefties on the ballot.

00:28:22.400 You got CPC and you got PPC

00:28:24.480 and then a variety,

00:28:27.000 a garden variety of different independents.

00:28:30.040 So you're saying Duncan Kinney's got no chance.

00:28:32.880 Oh, no, he's got it.

00:28:35.100 And Doug Horner, Alston Redford's finance minister,

00:28:38.040 absolutely making a big comeback.

00:28:40.520 I guess I can't dodge my own question I asked.

00:28:43.080 I forced both of you to ask predictions.

00:28:44.900 probably just three and three Tories, but I would expect the PPC is probably going to make a fairly

00:28:51.480 strong showing. Probably, I imagine they're going to probably outperform their province-wide vote

00:28:57.500 from the last federal election. What was that like? What was it? Roughly 10-ish. 8 to 10. I mean,

00:29:04.360 they could probably do 15, maybe as high as 20. I'd be surprised if they make it into the top three,

00:29:11.020 But I don't know.

00:29:13.640 But I think they're going to significantly outperform how they did the federal election

00:29:16.580 because there's no risk.

00:29:18.280 It's like a by-election.

00:29:19.160 It's not going to change who the government is.

00:29:20.460 In fact, this person is very, very, very unlikely to even take their seat.

00:29:24.400 It's just kind of do whatever you want.

00:29:27.060 We talk about the equalization vote and the hatred for Kenny.

00:29:30.580 There may also be some fallback on Aaron O'Toole for his performance in the federal election.

00:29:35.900 You may get some conservatives out here who didn't appreciate his campaign and vote PPC.

00:29:42.460 Are people going to, this is maybe another question for you guys.

00:29:46.860 Are people going to, on the ballot it says Conservative Party of Canada, but it's a provincial election in this weird, bizarre system we've been failing to explain to people.

00:29:57.920 Are people going to view these Senate candidates from the Conservative Party as Aaron O'Toole candidates or as Jason Kenney candidates?

00:30:05.900 Yeah, officially it says Conservative Party of Canada, but eh, it's definitely makes sense.

00:30:10.900 What do you think?

00:30:11.900 Is the average voter going to see this as Aaron O'Toole's people or Jason Kenney's people?

00:30:15.900 I think because it's happening with all the other provincial stuff.

00:30:20.900 I would think more people would lean towards the Kenney side.

00:30:23.900 These Kenney's people or these O'Toole's people? 0.92

00:30:25.900 I think the candidates are hoping it will be O'Toole's people considering Kenney's popularity right now.

00:30:30.900 But, yeah, being a provincial initiative, I think they're going to look at it that way.

00:30:36.360 Yeah, it'll be weird, but I suspect it'll be a lot more provincial than they would like it to be perceived as.

00:30:44.380 I mean, Aaron O'Toole is not widely liked in Alberta, but he's not outright loathed the way Jason Kenney is by many right now.

00:30:51.440 I think people have just a large enouye towards Aaron O'Toole, which is a much better spot to be in than, say, Jason Kenney.

00:30:59.820 Absolutely.

00:31:00.900 People will have to watch our special on Monday night for the results.

00:31:04.700 Excellent segue, Dave.

00:31:06.800 Yes, Monday night, 7 o'clock, Mountain Standard Time.

00:31:10.440 We will be doing a live election slash referendum night special.

00:31:15.380 You can tune in.

00:31:16.140 We're going to have a lot of great guests on.

00:31:18.500 I promise it will be a good time.

00:31:20.260 Bringing in pizza?

00:31:22.120 Well, some kind of food.

00:31:23.720 And we'll try not to get drunk before 10.

00:31:26.220 No promises, though.

00:31:27.660 Beer and probably pizza again.

00:31:29.680 What else would you want besides pizza?

00:31:30.900 Oh, exactly.

00:31:31.900 Okay.

00:31:32.900 It's a newsroom tradition.

00:31:33.900 I'll bring, maybe I'll bring my barbecue into the office.

00:31:35.900 That'd be good, eh?

00:31:36.900 Yeah, but you did the alligator last week. 0.92

00:31:38.900 That's just disgusting.

00:31:39.900 Well, you know.

00:31:40.900 Oh, but you had the mud bugs, though.

00:31:42.900 We were eating mud bugs.

00:31:43.900 Oh, I miss those.

00:31:44.900 Okay.

00:31:45.900 Also, I don't have the date of it yet, but stand by the Western Standard Uncensored,

00:31:51.900 our new panel of Bruce McAllister, Danielle Smith, and Rob Anderson.

00:31:56.900 They're going to be back.

00:31:57.900 going to be back. We're going to give you a date for their next show coming up fairly

00:32:00.800 soon here. But if you haven't seen what they've done yet, go back and watch the show they

00:32:04.840 did last night. It was really good. I was impressed. I normally don't watch any of this,

00:32:10.300 but it was the first show we did of that series, so I had it on in my ear as was being recorded

00:32:15.420 live over in my office, and it was damn good. I watched it the second time. I'm not even

00:32:20.320 in it. Maybe that's why it was good. I thought you were at the start. Oh, well, yeah, I'm

00:32:24.020 there to say hi and then I screw off. Okay, well, I want to thank all of our Western Standard members

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00:32:54.940 Simple.

00:32:56.120 Well, Corey, Dave, Ben a Slice. 0.70

00:32:59.800 Actually, I'm not talking to you.

00:33:01.160 I forgot.

00:33:02.120 Thank you very much for joining us here today.

00:33:04.560 And thank you all of you who have joined us by podcast or video

00:33:08.480 and sharing your time with myself, Corey, and Dave.

00:33:13.700 Thank you very much and God bless.

00:33:20.960 Thank you.

Western Standard - October 14, 2021

The Pipeline： Kenney's QR Vaxport, Equalization and DST, The Senate Election

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