The Pipeline: Kenney's QR Vaxport, Equalization and DST, The Senate Election
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Summary
On this week's episode of The Pipeline, we're going through some very interesting topics. First, we have Alberta Premier Jason Kenney announcing the rollout of the new QR code for vaccines. Second, we discuss the upcoming referendums on Equalization and Daylight Saving Time, and Alberta s Senate election. Finally, we hear from Western Standard News Editor Dave Naylor and Managing Editor Rob Anderson.
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Good day. I'm Derek Fildebrandt. Today is October 14th? 14th? Something like that. I do this every
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time. 13th. There you go. Today is October 13th, 2021. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the
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Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline. Today we're going to be going through some very
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interesting topics. Alberta Premier Jason Kenney announcing the rollout of the QR code for vaccine
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passports. I'm sure there's not been problems in any other provinces. We're going to be talking
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about the dueling referendums coming up for Albertans on October 18th. That'll be referendums
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on equalization and daylight savings time. And if you're in Calgary, we get to talk about fluoride
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again. That's fun. And Alberta's Senate election race. Really not getting much coverage anywhere
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else. I don't even know if you guys are interested, but we're talking about it anyway. So I hope you
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are. Before we get started today, I want to thank all of our Western Standard members for your
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continued support. If you're not yet a member of the Western Standard, please try us free for 15
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you can get a 15-day free trial. It'll be only $10 a month or $99 a year. That gets you full,
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complete access to all Western Standard content. We have a great team here at the Western Standard
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working to provide you with genuine, Western, independent, bailout-free media that doesn't
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take any money from the government. I think it's worth it. I don't know about you guys.
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Do you want anything? Yeah. It's okay. Perhaps you might want to introduce us, though. I'm going to.
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Oh, okay. I'm going to. I thought you'd forgotten. No. Okay. No. Maybe. Maybe I didn't. Maybe you did.
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Well, okay. Fine. To this side, I got the Western Standard News Editor, Dave Naylor,
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joining us today. How you doing, Dave? I'm good. You don't think it's a bit too early to be bringing
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out the Christmas ties? I had green on and green does not work in a green studio. It would have
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looked like someone caught me with a sword from neck to navel. Not everybody would be opposed to
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that look. Well, I'm not even introducing you. And then to my other side is some guy who we
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invite in here to say angry things from time to time. Some call him Cory Morgan. Before we get
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new show from the Western Standard that premiered
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Those will kind of be the three core members of
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the evening, Bill Buick. All of these hail from my time and before when I was in the
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Wild Rose party. I think these are some really smart individuals who have a lot to add and
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they're going to be talking about tough issues that you're not going to see covered much
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elsewhere in the mainstream media and certainly not with perspectives that you're going to
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be seeing in the government funded media. So check it out if you haven't already. This
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is going to be a fairly, probably a weekly, possibly bi-weekly show. We're going to figure
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that out as we go. But if the reaction is good from you guys, we're going to make it
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as frequently as we possibly can. As well, a programming note on October 18th. Is that
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Monday next week? Monday. See, I know some dates. It's just not today's. October 18th,
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Monday next week, we're going to have a live election slash referendum night special. We're
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going to be in the Western Standard Studio and with some correspondence spread across
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Alberta, covering the municipal elections. I have to admit, the municipal elections will probably
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focus largely on Calgary and Edmonton, but we're going to do our best to cover some of at least
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the medium-sized cities in Alberta. I apologize. Lacrete and Rosemary, we're probably not going
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to have live election coverage coming from villages like this, but we're going to do our
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best to not make this too Calgary and Edmonton focused because we know Alberta does not end
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But we're also going to be covering the equalization referendum with live results coming in.
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In fact, we're going to have some polling on that probably even later today, I hope,
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We're going to be covering the daylight savings time referendum as the results come in.
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I'm a one-issue voter. Fluoride. I just don't know what side of the issue I'm on.
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Okay, well, let's get started. Speaking of, well, no, we're going to get the equalization in a bit.
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We're going to start with Alberta Premier Jason Kenney introducing a QR code for the mandatory
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vaccine passport in Alberta. Dave, take it away.
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Kenny announced this at a press conference yesterday. By November 15th, Derek, everybody
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in the province is going to have to have one to prove that they're vaccinated to to get into
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places like bars and restaurants and and cinemas uh you just download it uh on onto your your phone
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and your card and uh when you go to a bar you they'll have a machine you scan it and if you've
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had your vaccinations it'll flash a little green light and you'll be able to uh you'll be able to
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enter. Show and go, I think is what the Premier called it. He claims that there will be no
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health information in there and there's absolutely no risk of anybody getting into it or hacking
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it. Saskatchewan tried this similar thing last month and it only lasted 24 hours before
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somebody hacked into it and they had to pull the whole system down and start again. So
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I'm sure as soon as they can, the hackers will be out there trying their damnedest and we'll see how the program works.
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Well, my deepest sympathies for the Saskatchewan government.
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I mean, setting up a police state, it takes time and patience and serious technology people.
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China can do this stuff because they've been doing it forever.
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It's a bit harder when we're trying to make the great leap forward for this kind of security to keep people safe.
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My favorite QR code hacking was actually in Quebec,
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where people got the QR codes of the Premier and the Health Minister.
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So people would be, I don't know, they're going to a bar in Quebec.
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They're in Trois-Rivières somewhere, and they go to the bar.
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Corey, they're saying there's no information in it.
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It's just show and go, I don't know, I prefer with the government, I'll show you, you show
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me a mine, I'll show you, I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
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I'd like to see something from a government, but do you think, how long do you think until
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these things get either hacked or duplicated and the whole system falls apart?
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I mean, if they really want to, you know, look into the world of apps, get government
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bureaucrats out of it and consult with the porn websites.
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Those guys are always 10 years ahead on every technological advancement online.
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I'm giving good advice on economic diversification and how the government can finally get something right.
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Well hey, in BC they were talking about contracting Pornhub to build glory holes.
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I'm not sure if you at home can hear this, but our producer James is dying over there.
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there. I think he's got COVID. But that aside, I mean, this is not reinventing the wheel. QR codes
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have been used successfully for a lot of things for a long time. Unfortunately, if anybody's going
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to be able to bugger up and establish technology, it's government. And I honestly hope they get it
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right. Like businesses, whether you agree or disagree and the whole works of it, they're
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getting crushed by this purgatory status they're stuck in. Their front end people are getting
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abused by people when they turn them away uh there are people coming through who just print
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out documents that appear that they've been vaccinated or not surely no one knows how to
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use photoshop ah yes so i i could just you know and this gets back to a lot of other things i
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remember a big presser with notly i believe it was in august standing there with a big printout
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of a qr code as you say quite often if you want to see what jason kennedy is going to do just see
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what notly did a little while ago they've come right around to the qr codes but now we're in
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them, we've got them. I just hope they get it right. I don't hold out a lot of hope.
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You want them to get it right? I want them to get it wrong. This should hopefully be
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a complete disaster and we get it thrown out again. We can just go back to photoshopping
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these things. Well, and I'll use a localized example. My wife Jane was holding a course
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for some things she was doing. She scheduled it, she had it fully booked, was ready to
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go, literally like three days before the course was going to be held. The new restrictions
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came in, it got shut down, can't do it, refunded everybody's money, all that preparation down
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the tube. This is one example of thousands and thousands of small businesses that are
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having a hell of a time trying to get anything done because you don't know day by day what's
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going to be happening. I'm not saying I want the QR code just to fail. I want it all to fail.
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Oh, I understand. And looking at the broader picture, that's a bigger thing to look at.
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But we're just looking from that perspective of bar owners who are dealing with these troubles,
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store owners, it gives them a means at least, you know, I can scan it, I can set something up,
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I can actually do it, because right now it's day by day. Well, Corey, I guess, you know,
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the Western Standard is going to be compliant with the vaccine passport, so your job is now
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to stand at the door and scan the codes of everyone coming in, and be polite to them.
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We should apply for the $2,000 grant then. I was thinking that. It's not the media bailout,
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It is from the government, but it's not the media bailout.
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We could donate it to something of fun use, actually, I'm sure if we do.
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We'll donate it to free Photoshop downloads for people.
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We have dueling three referendums if you live in Calgary coming up.
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Maybe there's a couple other referendums in smaller communities around Alberta.
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But two across Alberta and one more in Calgary.
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This is one of the few things where I actually prefer someone smart figure it out.
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I want to vote on half of what the government does.
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I think a lot more direct democracy would be good.
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But let's make it on broad general issues, not what does some nerdy dentist say about fluoride.
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So we had a great guest column that we published over the weekend.
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So, really, I have really nothing to say about daylight savings.
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And he said, well, is your duck hunting done before November 7th?
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He's like, well, no matter what happens, it doesn't change that.
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But, I don't know, maybe why don't you just quickly summarize his argument in the column and just so we have some information for people about what this bloody referendum is about.
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Yeah, well he thought it was good when he first heard that there was going to be a referendum, but he did some more looking at it and says no, this is not a good thing.
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And you look at, if you live in northern Alberta, you're not going to see the sun in the winter
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until 10 o'clock in the morning. It's, you know, it's just craziness. So he made a persuasive
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argument. The story is still on the front page of our website. So I encourage everybody to go
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and take a look at it. But he's definitely a hard no. And, you know, he lays out all his reasons,
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including those late, late sunrises. I mean, could you imagine living in Hinton or something like that and not seeing the sun until almost lunchtime?
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Hinton is your example of far northern Alberta?
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Well, Frank, I think everything north of Erdry is practically Edmonton.
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Alright, well I think we have a bit more to say about equalization. I just don't know much about daylight savings time.
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One equalization is coming up, Albertans vote on Monday, Dave, why don't you tell, how is
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it coming along right now, what's expected, I know we were promising people some polling
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data, we were teasing that last week, we were trying to raise money for it, we got the money.
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Why don't you kind of set the table, what can we expect on Monday?
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Well I think when Premier Kenney first announced the vote, everybody thought it was going to
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course Albertans don't want to see billions and billions going out and not getting anything
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in return and seeing Quebec balance their budget with equalization payments and Alberta
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struggling with billions of dollars worth of debt.
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So when the referendum was announced, I think everybody thought, oh, easy, 95% are going
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But the personal unpopularity of Kenny is making the vote tight.
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And it's going to be a lot closer than a lot of people initially thought, I think, Derek.
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And it's certainly not a slam dunk at this point.
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And I think the numbers in our poll later on today will show that.
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Yeah, so I don't want to give too much, but I've been begging our pollster for some results.
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So I might have to eat this in just a few hours when we have the numbers, but the preliminary
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results that we've gotten, again, not official, is that it's about 60% intend to vote yes,
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that is to remove equalization from the Constitution.
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Corey, what are your, I mean, I guess, I agree with Dave, maybe not, it was probably never
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going to be 95%, but I expect it to be 75, 80%, and I think in normal times we probably
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would achieve that. Do you think the unpopularity of Premier
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Kenney is the primary driving factor behind this? Or is it perhaps that Albertans are
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A bit of everything. And in some of it, there's some heavy duty opponents. You know, the people
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who love the status quo, like Andrew Leach, Notley's favorite economist, has been beating
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on this right from day one to saying, you're wasting your time. We shouldn't be wasting
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even ballot money on this, we shouldn't be doing this.
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I hope and think most Albertans see through that.
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to be upset with Kenny before voting on this thing
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they're brighter and that's what we're gonna see.
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I think 60, 65 against, it would have been higher
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if they hadn't managed to have such an anti-campaign,
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so you're pro-equalization, you're pro this broken system
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that has stunted the economic development of Canada for decades?
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Well, they don't seem to be able to run, to fight those guys
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because there is no yes campaign from the government.
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He knows that if soon as he puts his face on television
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and tells people that, and gets out there and puts his face on this,
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I expect it to pass without a triumphal margin,
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but if Kenny went out there and started campaigning,
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So this means that there is no big organized yes campaign.
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and I think a few other groups working together.
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It's, you know, just kind of these ragtag groups doing their thing.
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Normally when the government launches a referendum, it, you know, does something, but they can't.
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He said this week, you know, he only needs 50% plus one, right?
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I mean, to me, that would be an abject failure.
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You know, he was certainly when he announced it, hoping for a lot larger majority, but
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He says he'll be happy with, you know, just the 50%.
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I mean, one of the main critiques of Kenny, I think,
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from those of us on the conservative end of the spectrum has been
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the Fair Deal panel has just been a farce kicking it down the road.
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This was one of the things you came through on.
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So, I mean, at least show him, again, get out there,
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don't worry about Kenny and so on, vote on this,
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because he can use this as an excuse not to carry forward
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Apparently they're comfortable with Ottawa and the way things are.
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So we don't need to do all the other stuff that I promised in order to get elected.
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Well, I'm not, the problem is, like, yeah, I'm going to vote yes.
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The only way anything would happen is if you, if I say, Corey, I'm angry at you.
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And this is, so voting yes in this referendum is saying,
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Corey, I'm really angry and I'd like you to change.
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Alberta has no gun pointed at Ottawa saying, you fix this or else.
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And so we're going to have this and it'll, I'm sure it'll feel good,
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Well, let's help and load the gun for our man in Edmonton,
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who has been weak-kneed with Ottawa since he got in despite his tough talk.
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So, again, it's more pressure to say, look, we want you to do something on this.
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Do it during your last couple of months in power.
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Hunter Buck says within two years, nothing changes.
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Okay, yeah, but the equalization formula, nothing's changing unless something crazy happens.
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Corey becomes the UCP leader and the premier of the province.
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Okay. Well, let's turn towards the Senate election. Dave, we've got six candidates running from the CPC and PPC and a number of other independents. Maybe set the table of where are the different campaigns at right now and what are your predictions for what happens on Monday with the Senate election?
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I think it'll be a case of if the voters educated themselves, if they know what they're voting for, or if they're just going to blindly vote along party lines.
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You know, the People's Party of Canada was picking up support in Alberta when the election, federal election ended.
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Do they, does their slate of candidates get elected?
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Or does Alberta, as they normally do, vote a conservative slate in?
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And then the question is, will Trudeau ever appoint any of them?
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And, you know, he certainly snubbed Alberta when he appointed the last senator from the
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You know, he could have chosen an elected one, but he didn't.
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And as you said, it's not getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream media.
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But it is, yes, it's almost like the equalization vote.
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It's a way to show your disdain for the current system by getting out there and voting for
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the Senator of your choice and hopefully one day they live long enough to get appointed.
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I think it'll probably be, why don't we split it, let's say two Conservatives, one PPC.
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You think a PPC will get them to the top three, eh?
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And is there any point to these Senate elections anymore?
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I mean, there's a 0% chance any of them are really going to the Senate likely.
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Well, there's less than 1% with the current Prime Minister.
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I believe it's, what, a five or eight year mandate for elected Senators to sit in waiting.
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So perhaps the government might have changed radically within a few years and then a new
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I mean, over the course of the next two years, there's no way they're getting in.
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I'd rather stand on principle than loose, and at least just keep pushing and saying.
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So we will have some high ground to stand on when Trudeau picks some liberal hack.
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David Kahn or somebody who did their time leading the flaccid Alberta Liberal Party
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and give them their reward in the Senate, much like Grant Mitchell and others.
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One of the things they can't counter with was, well, who would you rather see?
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We put that in front of you and you refused to acknowledge it.
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So it's a limited exercise, but I still support it.
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Second part of my question, what's your prediction?
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The two and one, perhaps, if the PPC can concentrate that support.
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It's difficult, though, because a conservative supporter is going to go out
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and probably pick all three conservatives.
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The PPC is going to come out and pick all three PPC,
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I mean, strategically, in this unique kind of election,
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It's difficult. The PPC might have been better to have one candidate to just try and stand out and garner that much focused voting.
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It's really weird math, because if you did just one candidate, I would suppose, maybe not all, but a lot of PPC voters would say they'd vote for their one PPC candidate,
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and then the Tories get extra two votes on everything else, and then it would put them way over the top.
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Actually, if you don't run three, there's almost a 0% chance any of them would.
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So, no, hopefully, you know, I'd like to flavor it up.
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The game theory around Senate elections, because there's three, and it's not preferential.
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If it was preferential ballot, I would agree, but it's not preferential.
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It's just three equal votes with three equal standings.
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And part of what hurt this, too, was, again, unfortunately, our Premier here just can't seem to get anything right,
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I remember Reform actually had to form a provincial branch of a party just so that they could run candidates.
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If you remember way back, because they kept that Reform party actually registered as a provincial party in Alberta for quite some years,
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But it used to be a provincial endeavor, and you had a variety of parties.
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And it was a provincial party only for the purpose of Senate candidates.
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Exactly. And now, you know, with Premier Kennedy doing it this way, you have to be a federal party, so the Wilders Independence Party is out.
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But the federal parties can't spend money. You then have to have a provincial party behind it, but the provincial party doesn't appear on the ballot.
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It's a ridiculous thing, you know. It's a bizarre system.
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And the Alberta party, perhaps? Maybe they would have thrown somebody in if they'd had the chance. Who knows?
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Yeah. Well, at the very least, no one can, there's no boogeyman about splitting the vote.
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because, well, other than some independents running,
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So you're saying Duncan Kinney's got no chance.
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And Doug Horner, Alston Redford's finance minister,
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probably just three and three Tories, but I would expect the PPC is probably going to make a fairly
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strong showing. Probably, I imagine they're going to probably outperform their province-wide vote
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from the last federal election. What was that like? What was it? Roughly 10-ish. 8 to 10. I mean,
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they could probably do 15, maybe as high as 20. I'd be surprised if they make it into the top three,
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But I think they're going to significantly outperform how they did the federal election
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It's not going to change who the government is.
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In fact, this person is very, very, very unlikely to even take their seat.
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We talk about the equalization vote and the hatred for Kenny.
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There may also be some fallback on Aaron O'Toole for his performance in the federal election.
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You may get some conservatives out here who didn't appreciate his campaign and vote PPC.
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Are people going to, this is maybe another question for you guys.
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Are people going to, on the ballot it says Conservative Party of Canada, but it's a provincial election in this weird, bizarre system we've been failing to explain to people.
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Are people going to view these Senate candidates from the Conservative Party as Aaron O'Toole candidates or as Jason Kenney candidates?
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Yeah, officially it says Conservative Party of Canada, but eh, it's definitely makes sense.
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Is the average voter going to see this as Aaron O'Toole's people or Jason Kenney's people?
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I think because it's happening with all the other provincial stuff.
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I would think more people would lean towards the Kenney side.
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These Kenney's people or these O'Toole's people?
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I think the candidates are hoping it will be O'Toole's people considering Kenney's popularity right now.
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But, yeah, being a provincial initiative, I think they're going to look at it that way.
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Yeah, it'll be weird, but I suspect it'll be a lot more provincial than they would like it to be perceived as.
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I mean, Aaron O'Toole is not widely liked in Alberta, but he's not outright loathed the way Jason Kenney is by many right now.
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I think people have just a large enouye towards Aaron O'Toole, which is a much better spot to be in than, say, Jason Kenney.
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People will have to watch our special on Monday night for the results.
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Yes, Monday night, 7 o'clock, Mountain Standard Time.
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We will be doing a live election slash referendum night special.
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I'll bring, maybe I'll bring my barbecue into the office.
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Also, I don't have the date of it yet, but stand by the Western Standard Uncensored,
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our new panel of Bruce McAllister, Danielle Smith, and Rob Anderson.
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going to be back. We're going to give you a date for their next show coming up fairly
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soon here. But if you haven't seen what they've done yet, go back and watch the show they
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did last night. It was really good. I was impressed. I normally don't watch any of this,
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but it was the first show we did of that series, so I had it on in my ear as was being recorded
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live over in my office, and it was damn good. I watched it the second time. I'm not even
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in it. Maybe that's why it was good. I thought you were at the start. Oh, well, yeah, I'm
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