Western Standard - September 29, 2025


THE PIPELINE： Killing gun rights, ostriches, and the notwithstanding clause


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Length

49 minutes

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163.97336

Word Count

8,077

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557

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

24


Summary

Derek Fildebrandt is joined by Western Standard columnist Corey Morgan and editor-in-chief Elise Mills to talk about all things "killing good things" in Canada, including gun rights, the notwithstanding clause, and the "Buy-in" program.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 G'day, today is September 24th, 2025.
00:00:29.080 I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.
00:00:31.900 You're watching The Pipeline.
00:00:33.600 I'm joined by my usual crew of good friends here,
00:00:37.060 former Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.
00:00:40.200 Here again, on time.
00:00:42.140 Yeah, Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.
00:00:44.940 Always a pleasure.
00:00:46.400 And Western Standard BC columnist, Elise Mills.
00:00:51.720 Hi, guys.
00:00:53.520 Coming to us from the left coast.
00:00:54.960 Okay, well, there's a common theme today about
00:00:59.080 killing good things.
00:01:01.600 Killing the notwithstanding clause.
00:01:05.480 Moves by the feds to fight the use of the notwithstanding clause in Quebec
00:01:10.860 around some of the usual Quebec Frenchie issues.
00:01:15.260 Resistance to using it in Alberta
00:01:17.560 for radical things like keeping boys out of girls' sports.
00:01:24.540 Killing the credibility of the BC Conservative Party.
00:01:29.000 quickly descending into chaos as there are major questions arising
00:01:35.740 about the validity of the leadership review of BC Conservative leader,
00:01:40.340 John Rustat, as that caucus continues to lose members.
00:01:44.260 It feels daily.
00:01:45.320 It's not daily, but they're just continuing to shed MLAs.
00:01:48.000 So, killing the BC Conservative Party, slowly.
00:01:53.740 And killing ostriches, BC.
00:01:56.660 BC's twice on the list today.
00:01:58.500 We have the continuing ostrich scenario.
00:02:02.740 As the government,
00:02:05.380 there's been a stay of execution by the courts
00:02:08.000 to stop ostrich Waco going down.
00:02:12.100 We're going to talk about that.
00:02:13.080 Well, we're going to start with killing gun rights.
00:02:18.040 We'll start with Corey here.
00:02:20.160 The Liberal Public Safety Minister's last name
00:02:22.580 I will not even begin to try and pronounce.
00:02:26.600 Well, I know as much about how to pronounce his name
00:02:29.180 as he seems to know about gun rights.
00:02:30.740 He was notoriously slaughtered in the House of Commons
00:02:33.440 in a debate with Andrew Lawton.
00:02:35.120 The guy has no idea
00:02:36.760 on even the most rudimentary of rudimentary.
00:02:41.120 Oh, here's his last name.
00:02:42.420 Anna, Nasson, Gary.
00:02:45.240 Yeah, well, they just call him Gun Grab Gary.
00:02:47.640 Gun Grab Gary.
00:02:49.060 Gun Grab Gary.
00:02:49.860 Let's just go with that
00:02:51.340 rather than Massacre name.
00:02:54.080 The guy knows not even an entry level
00:02:57.360 of information about gun...
00:02:59.460 Like, if this guy tried to write
00:03:01.240 the Possession Acquisition License test,
00:03:04.660 they'd laugh him out.
00:03:06.520 Like, he'd get almost zero.
00:03:08.400 He'd get zero out of ten.
00:03:09.260 But then, there was a recording.
00:03:14.220 A surreptitious recording of him
00:03:15.800 with, I guess, someone who rents a property from him
00:03:18.260 who's a gun owner and not too happy.
00:03:20.680 And, in short,
00:03:21.940 I think I'm getting this right, Corey.
00:03:24.540 He says,
00:03:25.280 Yes, I know.
00:03:26.160 It's stupid.
00:03:27.300 None of this is going to work.
00:03:28.540 It's going to be expensive.
00:03:29.540 And, it's just going to possibly make crime worse.
00:03:32.700 But, we're doing it anyway
00:03:34.000 because Quebec.
00:03:36.380 Yeah, and you're pretty much paraphrasing it,
00:03:38.380 but that's what it comes down to.
00:03:40.200 I'm barely paraphrasing.
00:03:41.880 And, just the inability
00:03:46.040 to get people to turn these things in.
00:03:48.160 This buyback program.
00:03:49.300 I mean, it's not a feasible
00:03:50.720 buyer article.
00:03:52.380 Buyback always in quotes.
00:03:53.380 Because the government never had them
00:03:54.340 and they're not buying.
00:03:54.920 And, they, you know,
00:03:56.620 if you want to go back to that thought
00:03:58.880 that this is all based on trying
00:04:01.320 to win votes in Quebec,
00:04:03.600 unfortunately, it goes all the way back
00:04:05.160 to the terrible massacre of women
00:04:07.780 at the Polytech.
00:04:10.860 And, since then,
00:04:11.900 with their failed efforts
00:04:12.760 with the gun registry,
00:04:13.860 they've brought in,
00:04:14.520 they spent billions of dollars
00:04:15.580 when it was supposed to cost millions of dollars.
00:04:17.900 They failed to register
00:04:18.940 most of the firearms in the country.
00:04:21.040 And, then it got scrapped by Stephen Harper.
00:04:23.040 But, it's like,
00:04:23.420 they just will not give up on this hang-up.
00:04:25.520 So, now it's a case of,
00:04:26.620 well, we're not going to register them.
00:04:27.780 We're just going to
00:04:28.720 incrementally illegalize them.
00:04:30.920 And, because Canadians
00:04:32.160 are all such law-abiding citizens,
00:04:33.700 they will just happily come in
00:04:34.960 and turn in their firearms.
00:04:37.300 And, it's just been a failure
00:04:39.520 right from the beginning.
00:04:40.760 I mean, it's been five years
00:04:41.660 since Trudeau illegalized
00:04:43.560 all those different firearms.
00:04:45.560 And, they still haven't managed
00:04:46.980 to get any brought in.
00:04:47.800 They've extended the amnesty now
00:04:49.120 to 2026.
00:04:50.100 They just keep kicking that down the road.
00:04:51.680 And, it's signaling to every firearm owner
00:04:54.440 to basically never admit
00:04:57.420 that they're a firearm owner
00:04:58.440 and just don't comply.
00:04:59.340 The liberals will never get it together
00:05:00.460 and come down.
00:05:01.000 But, it was a rare moment of honesty
00:05:03.140 from a liberal minister.
00:05:04.360 It's the reality.
00:05:05.220 He's up the creek for being honest.
00:05:08.460 Nigel,
00:05:09.060 I have to give credit where it's due.
00:05:12.980 The minister,
00:05:13.860 Gun Grab Gary,
00:05:14.640 was on CBC Power Politics.
00:05:16.700 and, the host of the show,
00:05:19.580 I can't recall his name.
00:05:20.860 He, he actually did a fairly good interview,
00:05:23.580 I thought, with him
00:05:24.360 where he read some of his quotes
00:05:27.280 to him and says,
00:05:29.840 do you agree with yourself?
00:05:31.640 And, he would read one piece
00:05:33.420 and he'd say,
00:05:33.960 oh, no, uh, you know,
00:05:36.100 no, I don't really need it,
00:05:37.120 more or less.
00:05:38.000 Oh, no, I, well,
00:05:39.100 I just shouldn't have said that.
00:05:41.060 Why don't you give us
00:05:41.580 maybe some of the greatest hits?
00:05:42.600 You've got Jeremy,
00:05:43.220 Western Standard,
00:05:43.800 uh, uh, reporter,
00:05:45.600 Jeremy Borg's, uh, story here.
00:05:47.680 Why don't you give kind of
00:05:48.460 some of the greatest hits
00:05:49.400 of his candid moments
00:05:50.840 on him admitting
00:05:52.200 how terrible an idea this is?
00:05:54.540 Yeah, so, uh,
00:05:55.840 here we go with, um,
00:05:57.780 at a press conference on Tuesday,
00:06:00.300 uh, he,
00:06:02.140 I, uh,
00:06:03.760 I made,
00:06:05.500 Quebec has been impacted
00:06:06.940 by gun violence,
00:06:08.020 by mass casualty events
00:06:09.300 over a number of decades,
00:06:10.380 so it was a live real issue
00:06:11.600 for Quebecers.
00:06:12.480 Well, there was that one,
00:06:14.000 dreadful one that,
00:06:14.840 uh, that, um,
00:06:17.080 that, that, um,
00:06:18.080 Corey, uh,
00:06:19.280 Mark Lefebvre.
00:06:20.240 Yeah, it was a commentary
00:06:21.440 in terms of the ability
00:06:22.880 of police.
00:06:23.480 Well, that's,
00:06:23.880 he's responding there
00:06:24.820 because, because in private,
00:06:25.840 he says,
00:06:26.580 the police are not going
00:06:27.800 to do this.
00:06:28.940 Uh, that he's just saying,
00:06:30.240 well,
00:06:30.980 he's flubbing it off.
00:06:33.500 So it's, uh,
00:06:34.580 this may not be the story
00:06:35.720 you thought it was.
00:06:36.420 No, no, no,
00:06:36.820 we've got a different one
00:06:37.520 up with, uh,
00:06:38.040 with all his quotes.
00:06:39.140 Uh,
00:06:39.560 but, yeah,
00:06:40.560 he's,
00:06:41.520 he's just said,
00:06:42.660 I know this is not
00:06:43.840 going to work.
00:06:44.640 The police aren't
00:06:45.680 going to do it.
00:06:46.500 Firearms owners
00:06:47.160 are not going to comply,
00:06:48.780 uh,
00:06:50.080 at all.
00:06:50.780 Uh,
00:06:51.100 we're not even providing
00:06:51.900 full compensation.
00:06:53.400 Uh,
00:06:53.720 I doubt even most gun owners
00:06:55.060 would end it in even
00:06:55.660 if it was full compensation
00:06:56.860 because you want your guns.
00:06:58.360 Ah, here we are.
00:06:59.160 Uh, gun grab Gary
00:07:00.000 in his own words.
00:07:01.860 Uh,
00:07:02.720 yeah,
00:07:03.080 it's,
00:07:03.740 I don't think this is
00:07:04.440 a CBC one,
00:07:05.160 is it?
00:07:06.260 No,
00:07:06.600 no,
00:07:06.820 this is the,
00:07:07.320 it's,
00:07:07.480 it's the transcript.
00:07:08.220 Okay,
00:07:08.500 well,
00:07:08.660 here we go.
00:07:09.180 Well,
00:07:09.540 that's the full,
00:07:10.000 we can't read through
00:07:10.680 the full transcript.
00:07:11.320 It's fairly long,
00:07:12.240 but it's,
00:07:12.920 it's just,
00:07:13.660 the guy is admitting
00:07:14.580 we are doing
00:07:16.080 a stupid thing.
00:07:17.240 We know that we are
00:07:18.180 doing a stupid thing
00:07:19.260 and we're doing
00:07:20.300 this stupid thing
00:07:21.320 because we have
00:07:22.500 too many votes
00:07:23.160 at stake in Quebec.
00:07:25.380 That's it.
00:07:27.180 So,
00:07:27.740 what tenant says,
00:07:29.540 I thought it was voluntary
00:07:30.580 and Gary says,
00:07:31.720 oh,
00:07:31.900 it is voluntary.
00:07:33.220 So,
00:07:33.680 let me ask you this.
00:07:34.500 If it's a voluntary buyback,
00:07:35.900 some people call it
00:07:36.740 confiscation.
00:07:37.600 Yeah.
00:07:38.080 So,
00:07:38.480 I've got a couple of options.
00:07:39.580 My option is to go
00:07:40.440 have it deactivated
00:07:41.440 at my cost.
00:07:42.540 You'll get compensation
00:07:43.300 for that.
00:07:44.460 Okay,
00:07:44.840 so I get compensation
00:07:45.860 for deactivation,
00:07:47.040 but so I basically
00:07:47.800 have a firearm
00:07:48.440 that would never be able
00:07:49.200 to be used again.
00:07:50.160 It's basically an ornament.
00:07:51.660 So,
00:07:52.300 give it to you.
00:07:53.980 Well,
00:07:54.260 it's easy.
00:07:54.880 I mean,
00:07:55.200 who's collecting
00:07:55.980 a collection agency
00:07:57.200 as well?
00:07:58.060 What?
00:07:58.700 You know?
00:07:59.260 So,
00:07:59.620 anyway,
00:07:59.960 get shot back.
00:08:01.360 Yeah.
00:08:02.060 So,
00:08:02.640 at least this is,
00:08:04.300 I have never seen
00:08:06.040 anything quite like this.
00:08:07.180 I mean,
00:08:07.380 it is kind of a shame
00:08:09.140 nowadays that you're
00:08:10.000 never really private.
00:08:10.900 Someone might be
00:08:11.600 recording you,
00:08:12.680 but his privacy
00:08:14.600 is not my concern here.
00:08:16.040 I mean,
00:08:16.380 I wouldn't like it
00:08:16.960 if someone did it to me,
00:08:17.900 but if I was a minister
00:08:19.420 of the crown
00:08:20.060 in charge of a very important
00:08:21.820 section of public policy
00:08:23.520 and I was admitting
00:08:24.740 in black and white language
00:08:26.540 at length
00:08:27.700 in several different ways
00:08:29.300 that I know
00:08:30.560 I'm doing a stupid thing
00:08:31.960 that will not work
00:08:33.640 and will probably have
00:08:34.420 negative outcomes,
00:08:35.320 but I'm doing it purely
00:08:37.160 for partisan political reasons.
00:08:39.180 I feel
00:08:40.620 like that might be
00:08:42.340 a moment
00:08:42.740 for a mature,
00:08:44.100 grown-up government
00:08:44.920 as this is supposed to be
00:08:46.120 led by Mark Carney
00:08:46.860 to say,
00:08:47.400 you know what?
00:08:48.440 We're going to take
00:08:49.080 a pause on this.
00:08:51.400 We're going to go back
00:08:52.340 to the drawing board.
00:08:52.960 We'll get back to you later.
00:08:53.920 I feel like
00:08:54.320 that would be an excuse
00:08:55.660 for Carney
00:08:56.160 to back out
00:08:56.800 of this Trudeau-era policy.
00:08:58.860 Well,
00:08:59.180 there's a couple of things.
00:09:00.140 So,
00:09:00.360 first of all,
00:09:01.160 the minister,
00:09:02.520 I've had a problem
00:09:04.080 with this minister
00:09:04.720 from day dot.
00:09:06.000 This minister
00:09:06.560 has attachments
00:09:07.720 to Tamil Tigers,
00:09:10.280 which is a terrorist
00:09:11.160 organization.
00:09:12.400 There has been
00:09:12.960 lots of questions
00:09:13.980 about his,
00:09:15.200 what should we say,
00:09:17.220 his previous CV.
00:09:18.900 Why he's still there,
00:09:20.640 I don't know
00:09:21.060 what he has
00:09:21.700 on Mark Carney
00:09:22.460 because I can tell you
00:09:25.000 right now
00:09:25.440 there are several
00:09:26.540 other better qualified
00:09:28.320 people in that caucus
00:09:29.480 to be a minister
00:09:30.500 of public safety
00:09:31.420 and yet he hangs
00:09:32.980 on to Gary.
00:09:34.800 Gary has,
00:09:36.820 I would ask our viewers
00:09:38.280 to take a look
00:09:39.140 at the trajectory
00:09:39.960 of Gary's career.
00:09:41.020 this is not somebody
00:09:42.840 that I think
00:09:43.540 the Americans
00:09:44.400 would be particularly
00:09:45.480 impressed to be
00:09:46.420 doing business with
00:09:47.280 considering he also
00:09:48.680 has the other
00:09:49.720 hot potato file
00:09:51.140 of the,
00:09:52.580 what was the border plan
00:09:54.240 under Trudeau,
00:09:55.300 which is now
00:09:55.820 the Carney border plan.
00:09:57.600 But getting back
00:09:58.360 to the origin story
00:10:00.840 of this,
00:10:01.340 so to speak,
00:10:02.420 the minister
00:10:02.940 wasn't there
00:10:03.880 to have this conversation.
00:10:05.920 The minister
00:10:06.440 started this conversation.
00:10:08.400 The person
00:10:09.740 that taped him
00:10:11.180 or recorded him
00:10:12.120 without his permission,
00:10:13.340 which I agree
00:10:14.120 is an absolute violation,
00:10:16.660 was doing so
00:10:18.580 in their mind
00:10:19.820 because they believed
00:10:21.480 they needed to capture
00:10:22.580 what he was saying
00:10:23.240 because they had something
00:10:23.960 to do with a housing issue.
00:10:25.740 I'm not quite sure
00:10:26.800 what that was all about.
00:10:28.760 But then the minister
00:10:29.620 out of nowhere
00:10:30.360 launches into,
00:10:32.000 with no probing
00:10:33.320 or prodding
00:10:33.980 by the other individual
00:10:35.360 in this conversation,
00:10:36.840 goes into the gun,
00:10:37.980 buyback program,
00:10:40.480 which tells me
00:10:41.880 that this,
00:10:42.540 it further encourages me
00:10:44.300 to encourage everyone else
00:10:45.740 to ask why Gary
00:10:47.700 is the minister
00:10:48.660 of public safety.
00:10:50.240 It's not like
00:10:50.880 he's the minister
00:10:51.600 of women's,
00:10:52.680 you know,
00:10:53.340 women's issues,
00:10:54.100 which we know
00:10:54.540 is a fake,
00:10:55.440 fake ministry.
00:10:56.660 He would probably know
00:10:57.260 more about women's issues
00:10:58.400 than guns, though.
00:10:59.900 Well, he,
00:11:00.520 well, yeah,
00:11:01.280 I, well,
00:11:01.980 yeah,
00:11:02.400 depending on,
00:11:03.120 well, we could,
00:11:03.780 I speculate on that
00:11:04.760 considering his relationship
00:11:05.840 with the Tamil Tigers,
00:11:06.740 who has a propensity
00:11:09.120 for violence,
00:11:10.620 but he's definitely
00:11:12.860 not the right person there,
00:11:14.100 and everybody
00:11:14.600 in the press gallery
00:11:15.580 is scratching their head.
00:11:16.580 Why is he still there?
00:11:18.660 It's become a running joke,
00:11:20.080 but I would also say
00:11:21.280 that his,
00:11:22.880 the way that he speaks
00:11:25.280 to the issue
00:11:26.140 really demonstrates,
00:11:27.460 I think,
00:11:28.220 what he's hearing
00:11:28.840 in caucus,
00:11:29.620 what he's hearing
00:11:30.400 from even the prime minister.
00:11:31.740 This is all political stagecraft
00:11:34.460 to keep Quebec on side.
00:11:37.420 It's still bloody awful.
00:11:39.700 It's still absolutely wrong,
00:11:41.700 as it was in its first incarnation
00:11:43.440 in 1998
00:11:44.320 under what was then C-48,
00:11:47.120 the long gun registry,
00:11:48.860 which was an absolute nightmare,
00:11:50.660 but this is just another
00:11:51.640 iteration of this.
00:11:54.080 But I don't think
00:11:55.420 the liberal caucus
00:11:56.660 or cabinet
00:11:57.360 has their heart in this,
00:11:58.960 and I think his sentiment
00:12:00.780 or the statements
00:12:01.720 he's making
00:12:02.340 and the comments
00:12:02.880 he's making
00:12:03.460 and sort of the flagrant
00:12:05.100 sort of informality
00:12:08.100 of what he's,
00:12:09.320 of how he's talking about this,
00:12:10.840 I think really speaks
00:12:11.760 to that as well.
00:12:13.340 But I,
00:12:14.180 it's definitely not sincere
00:12:15.520 and then you see,
00:12:16.400 you know,
00:12:16.680 Premier Smith come out
00:12:17.580 and direct,
00:12:19.100 you know,
00:12:19.460 law enforcement,
00:12:20.360 do not waste your time
00:12:21.340 picking up people's guns
00:12:22.460 or taking people's guns.
00:12:24.380 And I would also say
00:12:25.780 that Quebec has retorted
00:12:27.180 or responded to this
00:12:29.180 by saying actually
00:12:30.200 this gun law
00:12:31.960 or this buyback program
00:12:33.440 has nothing to do
00:12:34.540 with what we actually asked for.
00:12:36.400 And there is one particular
00:12:38.140 semi-automatic weapon on there
00:12:40.260 and I can't remember,
00:12:41.340 you gentlemen might know it.
00:12:42.840 Yeah,
00:12:43.100 that wasn't even included.
00:12:44.780 So this is all stagecraft.
00:12:46.760 That's because the SKS,
00:12:48.740 I don't know if it's
00:12:49.140 politically correct,
00:12:50.100 but screw it.
00:12:50.800 It's because it's commonly used
00:12:52.500 by indigenous people
00:12:53.940 for hunting.
00:12:54.480 The SKS is a very,
00:12:58.080 it's,
00:12:58.400 I believe it's Czech made.
00:12:59.880 It's kind of a Soviet.
00:13:00.920 There's Chinese ones too.
00:13:02.160 Yeah,
00:13:02.280 there is a Chinese ones.
00:13:03.160 Yeah.
00:13:03.340 They're cheap.
00:13:03.780 But it was,
00:13:04.100 I think it was originally
00:13:04.700 a Chinese made,
00:13:05.880 I mean,
00:13:06.560 to the uninitiated you look at it,
00:13:07.900 it looks kind of like an AK-47,
00:13:10.220 but it's very much not.
00:13:11.360 It's semi-automatic.
00:13:12.500 It functions pretty much
00:13:13.980 like any other hunting rifle,
00:13:15.000 but it's cheap.
00:13:16.060 I mean,
00:13:16.360 the communists couldn't make
00:13:17.500 anything well and cheaply
00:13:18.980 except for small arms.
00:13:20.540 Yeah.
00:13:21.480 They've made a nice
00:13:21.980 7.6-235 ammunition.
00:13:23.920 If I had one,
00:13:27.440 that's what I would buy.
00:13:28.260 Yeah,
00:13:28.580 if I did,
00:13:29.100 yes.
00:13:30.600 So can we just,
00:13:32.080 can we just say,
00:13:33.180 can we just add
00:13:33.920 that this,
00:13:36.240 yeah,
00:13:36.540 and this is another example
00:13:37.860 of two tiers of justice
00:13:39.280 in this country,
00:13:40.160 right?
00:13:40.640 Look at,
00:13:41.260 I mean,
00:13:41.460 we're going to get into this
00:13:42.440 about the hostage situation,
00:13:45.280 but First Nations are,
00:13:47.620 even down to sentencing,
00:13:49.800 that stagecraft that's going on,
00:13:52.380 that political maneuvering
00:13:53.580 is breaking this country,
00:13:54.980 right?
00:13:55.340 When Canadians realize
00:13:56.620 that this is all a sham
00:13:57.900 and it's all political theater
00:13:59.760 for Quebec,
00:14:00.580 especially for those in the West
00:14:01.960 who have been asked
00:14:03.140 to put a lot of water
00:14:05.440 in their wine repeatedly,
00:14:07.160 this is just another brick
00:14:09.440 on the pile
00:14:10.140 that's going to break
00:14:10.980 the backs of especially
00:14:12.080 Western Canadians
00:14:13.060 in their trust
00:14:14.120 in their government.
00:14:14.920 But look,
00:14:16.620 I don't begrudge
00:14:18.140 a politician
00:14:18.920 for doing politics.
00:14:21.580 I mean,
00:14:22.500 it's one of the downsides
00:14:24.900 of a democracy
00:14:26.260 is that
00:14:27.020 the objective
00:14:28.900 is to get votes
00:14:30.040 to get in power
00:14:30.680 and keep votes
00:14:31.440 to stay in power.
00:14:33.040 Politicians
00:14:33.600 are going to do politics.
00:14:35.580 But the value proposition
00:14:37.620 of Mark Carney
00:14:38.920 was that
00:14:40.760 he's above politics,
00:14:42.300 he's the grown-up
00:14:43.560 in the room,
00:14:44.140 he's not going to be
00:14:44.760 the pandering
00:14:45.820 amateur hour
00:14:47.140 Justin Trudeau,
00:14:48.580 he is Mark
00:14:49.700 freaking Carney
00:14:50.820 and he's going to make
00:14:51.680 decisions
00:14:52.320 non-ideologically.
00:14:53.840 Now,
00:14:54.100 if you believe that,
00:14:55.560 I got a gun buyback
00:14:56.780 program for you.
00:14:57.980 But
00:14:58.180 now we've got them
00:15:00.740 bloody admitting it.
00:15:02.520 I would,
00:15:03.260 you know,
00:15:03.560 and I,
00:15:04.420 so okay,
00:15:04.800 he wants to keep his votes
00:15:05.780 in Quebec.
00:15:07.140 But,
00:15:07.540 you know,
00:15:07.860 Nigel,
00:15:08.640 wouldn't this,
00:15:09.740 this would be
00:15:10.540 an opportunity
00:15:11.320 with,
00:15:11.640 you know,
00:15:12.020 with this,
00:15:13.020 you know,
00:15:13.220 the leak of the
00:15:14.080 recording
00:15:15.360 with the minister
00:15:16.000 here,
00:15:17.180 this would be
00:15:17.860 an opportunity
00:15:18.340 for him to say,
00:15:19.680 you know what,
00:15:20.680 I wasn't all that
00:15:22.180 briefed on this
00:15:23.060 when I became
00:15:23.500 prime minister.
00:15:24.080 I was a prime minister
00:15:24.720 for a couple days,
00:15:25.640 like a week or two,
00:15:26.440 and we called an election,
00:15:27.560 you know,
00:15:27.740 I signed some fake
00:15:28.540 executive orders
00:15:29.300 like I was president.
00:15:31.280 It's become apparent
00:15:32.240 this was a bad idea.
00:15:33.880 But do we still believe
00:15:34.840 in getting assault-style
00:15:36.120 guns,
00:15:36.940 you know,
00:15:37.440 out of people's hands?
00:15:38.480 We'll get back to you.
00:15:39.260 And this is a way
00:15:39.860 to let it die.
00:15:41.320 They have decided
00:15:43.320 not to do that.
00:15:44.380 They're still going
00:15:45.300 forward here.
00:15:46.040 I think this is
00:15:47.920 going to be,
00:15:48.840 I don't think it's
00:15:49.500 going to hurt the
00:15:50.260 liberals with liberal
00:15:50.980 voters.
00:15:51.420 Liberal voters
00:15:51.940 can't tell the
00:15:52.580 difference between
00:15:53.080 the BB gun
00:15:53.740 and the bazooka.
00:15:54.940 And so they see
00:15:56.080 scary guns
00:15:57.020 and they want
00:15:57.520 them gone.
00:15:58.400 I don't think it's
00:15:58.940 going to hurt them
00:15:59.300 with liberal voters,
00:16:00.180 but I think it will
00:16:01.620 hurt them with some
00:16:02.260 of the moderate
00:16:02.680 conservative voters
00:16:03.600 who were hoping
00:16:05.520 that he was that
00:16:06.260 grown-up in the room,
00:16:07.500 the Mark Carney
00:16:08.180 value proposition.
00:16:08.920 It would have been
00:16:09.460 pretty easy to do
00:16:10.740 for this,
00:16:11.200 what he did
00:16:11.560 for the EV rule.
00:16:15.340 Just say,
00:16:16.000 we've got to think
00:16:16.520 this one through,
00:16:17.380 give us a year,
00:16:18.400 and just get it
00:16:19.620 off the table
00:16:20.140 for now.
00:16:21.240 I mean,
00:16:21.720 I do find it
00:16:22.260 surprising that
00:16:22.900 there isn't a
00:16:23.360 stronger hunting
00:16:24.160 lobby in Quebec.
00:16:25.140 I do know that
00:16:25.720 people in Quebec
00:16:26.360 hunt,
00:16:27.420 and that they have
00:16:29.740 firearms in the
00:16:31.400 home for all the
00:16:31.900 same reasons that
00:16:32.640 people in Alberta
00:16:33.360 have firearms in
00:16:34.400 their own.
00:16:34.780 so why this is
00:16:37.820 such a priority
00:16:39.460 for Quebec
00:16:40.720 and for the
00:16:41.860 Bloc Quebec,
00:16:42.480 well,
00:16:42.980 I mean,
00:16:43.360 they have their
00:16:44.060 own reasons,
00:16:44.620 I'm sure,
00:16:45.480 but it would have
00:16:46.100 been an easy
00:16:46.880 enough one for
00:16:47.640 Mr Carney to
00:16:48.420 step back from
00:16:49.180 and just give
00:16:50.680 people more time.
00:16:51.920 Meanwhile,
00:16:52.860 I'm very encouraged
00:16:53.680 to see the
00:16:54.800 response in
00:16:56.600 Ontario of all
00:16:57.540 the places
00:16:58.040 that they didn't
00:16:58.440 expect.
00:16:59.380 They're not keen
00:17:00.820 on going out
00:17:01.920 and taking guns
00:17:03.140 out of people's
00:17:03.740 houses here in
00:17:04.840 Alberta,
00:17:05.620 best place to
00:17:06.280 be in Canada
00:17:07.040 if gun rights
00:17:08.100 are important
00:17:08.620 to you.
00:17:10.820 I can't see
00:17:11.760 this thing
00:17:12.200 flying nationally
00:17:12.900 because there
00:17:13.940 are too many
00:17:14.860 people in the
00:17:15.540 provinces who
00:17:16.340 are against
00:17:16.720 it.
00:17:17.560 So,
00:17:17.940 well,
00:17:19.460 surprise,
00:17:19.840 Quebec,
00:17:20.060 Quebec.
00:17:20.900 Speaking of
00:17:21.820 provinces,
00:17:22.440 now let's
00:17:22.880 shift to
00:17:24.160 Elise's area
00:17:26.000 of the woods
00:17:26.480 here.
00:17:28.320 The B.C.
00:17:30.020 Conservatives,
00:17:30.760 you know,
00:17:32.120 they had a
00:17:32.500 meteoric rise.
00:17:33.480 They came from
00:17:34.040 nothing to
00:17:34.800 something.
00:17:35.340 They swallowed
00:17:36.020 the B.C.
00:17:36.800 United Liberals
00:17:37.840 whole.
00:17:38.920 It was,
00:17:40.200 you know,
00:17:40.540 I've told
00:17:41.380 friends in B.C.,
00:17:42.900 you know,
00:17:43.200 because they had
00:17:43.700 a lot of chaos
00:17:44.240 since the election.
00:17:45.200 I told them,
00:17:45.740 you know what,
00:17:46.480 don't be too
00:17:47.280 worried about it.
00:17:48.900 You know,
00:17:49.440 I'm a veteran,
00:17:50.080 Corey Morgan's a
00:17:50.780 veteran of the
00:17:51.380 Wild Rose PC Wars
00:17:52.680 here in Alberta.
00:17:53.960 You would think of
00:17:54.360 the reformed PC Wars
00:17:55.640 federally.
00:17:56.580 You guys had
00:17:57.420 by far the
00:17:58.680 cleanest
00:17:59.620 conservative civil war
00:18:01.160 and you settled
00:18:01.740 it before you
00:18:02.540 even get it
00:18:02.880 getting to an
00:18:03.440 election,
00:18:03.840 more or less.
00:18:05.160 So good on you
00:18:06.200 guys.
00:18:06.980 You'll get through
00:18:07.620 it.
00:18:07.920 It's growing.
00:18:08.260 Your growing pains
00:18:08.820 are a lot less
00:18:09.440 than we've had.
00:18:11.100 But they're not
00:18:11.940 stopping.
00:18:12.400 They seem to be
00:18:12.960 getting worse.
00:18:14.180 They lost a couple
00:18:15.000 of MLAs a number
00:18:15.800 of months ago
00:18:16.600 for comments that
00:18:17.720 John Rustad
00:18:18.280 declared to be
00:18:19.300 racist or
00:18:22.100 something.
00:18:22.620 And they were
00:18:22.900 not.
00:18:23.380 They were very
00:18:23.840 much not.
00:18:24.360 I thought it was
00:18:24.760 ridiculous putting
00:18:25.660 out Dallas Brody
00:18:27.360 there and then
00:18:28.020 some others
00:18:28.440 followed her
00:18:29.060 in solidarity.
00:18:30.840 And then
00:18:31.560 they've had this
00:18:33.500 leadership review
00:18:34.340 and there was
00:18:35.920 definitely some
00:18:36.400 discontent coming
00:18:38.560 through this.
00:18:39.020 But it was a
00:18:39.500 bizarre leadership
00:18:40.140 review.
00:18:40.540 It was not held
00:18:41.100 on a single day
00:18:41.760 the way every
00:18:42.620 other leadership
00:18:43.120 review that I'm
00:18:43.700 aware of in the
00:18:44.280 history of Canada
00:18:44.980 and every political
00:18:45.580 party has been
00:18:46.340 done.
00:18:46.900 It was held over
00:18:47.500 I think several
00:18:48.220 months,
00:18:48.900 riding by riding.
00:18:50.940 I mean,
00:18:51.800 that doesn't make
00:18:52.440 it necessarily bad,
00:18:53.400 but it's an odd
00:18:54.120 thing to do.
00:18:55.480 I guess it allows
00:18:56.100 the leader to go
00:18:56.740 to the people
00:18:57.420 voting and be
00:18:58.280 there face to
00:18:58.880 face,
00:18:59.240 make a good
00:18:59.640 impression.
00:19:00.520 These things are
00:19:01.000 always stacked in
00:19:01.840 favor of the
00:19:02.340 leader.
00:19:02.580 That's just the
00:19:03.060 way it works.
00:19:03.660 So that's not
00:19:04.120 too untoward,
00:19:05.120 but he apparently
00:19:07.940 passed it,
00:19:08.660 not that strong
00:19:09.440 with about 70
00:19:10.340 ish percent or
00:19:11.640 the high 60s,
00:19:12.940 high 60s.
00:19:13.620 And then he
00:19:14.140 immediately kicked
00:19:15.000 someone else out
00:19:15.940 of caucus.
00:19:16.660 Now,
00:19:16.800 not because they
00:19:17.300 were too
00:19:17.600 conservative,
00:19:18.100 but I guess just
00:19:19.080 as we weren't
00:19:19.460 getting along
00:19:20.040 irreconcilable
00:19:21.020 differences,
00:19:21.740 kicks them out
00:19:22.040 of caucus.
00:19:22.460 No vote of
00:19:23.080 the caucus.
00:19:23.760 Again,
00:19:24.020 just unilaterally
00:19:25.060 kicks them out,
00:19:25.640 not as a
00:19:25.960 caucus decision,
00:19:26.540 but as a
00:19:27.000 leader's
00:19:27.340 decision.
00:19:30.020 So,
00:19:30.860 and then,
00:19:31.420 you know,
00:19:31.620 we've had some
00:19:32.400 reporting,
00:19:33.820 I think,
00:19:34.200 I think it was
00:19:34.640 just yesterday
00:19:35.160 from the
00:19:35.540 Western Standards
00:19:36.080 BC Bureau
00:19:36.940 Chief Jared
00:19:37.760 Yager,
00:19:38.840 with some
00:19:39.240 really interesting
00:19:39.920 information that
00:19:40.860 casts doubts
00:19:42.080 on even if,
00:19:43.040 and a fairly
00:19:43.700 low leadership
00:19:45.040 result he got
00:19:46.360 already below
00:19:47.020 70%.
00:19:48.000 I'll let you
00:19:50.320 go,
00:19:51.000 Elise,
00:19:51.400 and set it
00:19:51.860 up about,
00:19:53.380 there's some
00:19:53.820 pretty serious
00:19:54.280 questions that
00:19:55.000 have now been
00:19:55.520 raised about the
00:19:56.180 validity of
00:19:56.720 even that
00:19:57.180 result.
00:19:58.700 It was the
00:20:00.280 most strange
00:20:01.640 leadership review
00:20:02.620 I have ever
00:20:03.780 seen,
00:20:04.480 and I have
00:20:05.460 been around
00:20:06.200 politics starting
00:20:07.420 in BC for
00:20:08.260 25 years.
00:20:09.940 And to have
00:20:12.000 a staggered
00:20:13.320 leadership review
00:20:14.360 without there
00:20:15.620 being a convention
00:20:16.560 at the end of
00:20:17.280 it.
00:20:17.720 I mean,
00:20:18.060 you can do
00:20:18.640 the weekend
00:20:19.520 leadership review
00:20:21.460 if you want,
00:20:22.680 but there always
00:20:23.560 should be the
00:20:24.220 convention at the
00:20:25.000 end of it,
00:20:25.740 where the
00:20:26.040 results are
00:20:26.620 announced publicly.
00:20:28.000 So one of the,
00:20:29.180 I just want to
00:20:29.820 preface this,
00:20:30.520 it has been a
00:20:31.900 clown car of a
00:20:34.020 ride for roughly
00:20:36.500 four or five
00:20:37.120 months,
00:20:37.420 but it's been
00:20:37.960 chaotic for,
00:20:39.560 I would say,
00:20:40.040 even since last
00:20:40.880 year,
00:20:41.660 even before the
00:20:42.700 election last
00:20:43.540 year.
00:20:44.320 And I think
00:20:45.920 one thing that
00:20:47.120 people across the
00:20:47.900 country need to
00:20:48.380 understand is we
00:20:49.360 didn't have a
00:20:50.000 civil war because
00:20:50.920 the BC liberals
00:20:51.760 laid down arms.
00:20:53.420 They just
00:20:53.760 walked away.
00:20:54.920 There wasn't
00:20:55.340 even either,
00:20:56.460 nobody even
00:20:57.320 threw a,
00:20:58.240 threw a little
00:20:58.700 pebble that
00:20:59.740 way.
00:21:00.580 Kevin Falcon
00:21:01.140 saw the
00:21:02.240 writing,
00:21:02.760 you know,
00:21:03.340 on the wall
00:21:03.940 and basically
00:21:04.900 just sort of
00:21:06.240 once Eleanor
00:21:07.140 Sturko,
00:21:07.940 the MLA that
00:21:09.200 we're talking
00:21:09.800 about today that
00:21:10.580 was booted from
00:21:11.380 caucus,
00:21:12.180 once she crossed
00:21:12.900 the floor,
00:21:13.840 the die was
00:21:14.660 cast for Kevin
00:21:15.640 Falcon.
00:21:16.580 I will say,
00:21:17.760 and also let's
00:21:18.640 just talk about
00:21:19.240 Eleanor Sturko.
00:21:19.960 why she was
00:21:21.460 booted from
00:21:21.980 caucus is from
00:21:24.320 some of the
00:21:24.840 very same
00:21:25.780 tradecraft and
00:21:27.520 trickery that
00:21:28.280 John Rustad
00:21:29.100 himself got up
00:21:30.160 to when I was
00:21:31.680 working with the
00:21:32.280 BC liberals under
00:21:33.280 Gordon Campbell
00:21:34.020 and he was an
00:21:35.120 MLA and he was
00:21:36.360 a minister of,
00:21:37.680 I believe it was
00:21:38.340 Forrest.
00:21:39.420 He joined a
00:21:40.340 ragtag group of
00:21:41.240 15 MLAs and
00:21:43.080 they quickly
00:21:43.920 formed into an
00:21:44.840 aggressive force
00:21:45.900 that challenged
00:21:46.880 my former boss
00:21:47.960 and my former
00:21:49.000 party to
00:21:49.960 in a very
00:21:50.680 aggressive way.
00:21:52.100 Now when all
00:21:52.860 was said and
00:21:53.360 done and there
00:21:54.060 was, I would
00:21:54.680 say that Mr.
00:21:55.200 Campbell and
00:21:56.980 the, and his
00:21:57.900 staff around him
00:21:59.280 managed that
00:21:59.880 really well because
00:22:01.040 Mr.
00:22:01.800 Rustad was
00:22:02.480 folded back into
00:22:03.480 caucus.
00:22:04.060 And I want to
00:22:04.520 remind everybody,
00:22:05.900 if a premier or
00:22:07.200 a leader managed
00:22:09.120 the way that
00:22:09.740 John has every
00:22:10.960 dissenting voice,
00:22:12.160 you wouldn't have
00:22:12.880 a caucus left.
00:22:13.860 people on the
00:22:14.880 outside don't
00:22:15.600 realize how rough
00:22:16.560 and ready it
00:22:17.280 gets in certain
00:22:19.000 provinces and in
00:22:20.780 certain political
00:22:21.480 parties and ours
00:22:22.460 was one of them.
00:22:23.760 This is the same
00:22:24.880 situation that's
00:22:25.760 happened in the
00:22:26.780 BC Conservative
00:22:27.660 Party.
00:22:28.440 This also stems
00:22:29.520 from Mr.
00:22:30.180 Rustad not
00:22:30.860 actually taking
00:22:32.040 strong leadership
00:22:33.040 in how he managed
00:22:35.540 his caucus.
00:22:36.140 These issues have
00:22:36.840 been allowed to
00:22:37.600 pile up and pile
00:22:38.780 up and pile up
00:22:39.860 and it really
00:22:40.780 started with the
00:22:41.720 exodus of Dallas
00:22:43.100 Brody, which you
00:22:43.800 mentioned, Derek.
00:22:44.980 And you're right,
00:22:45.740 her, the comments,
00:22:47.420 the headline was
00:22:48.840 pretty egregious
00:22:50.280 compared to what
00:22:51.680 really happened.
00:22:52.600 She was questioning
00:22:53.480 residential school
00:22:55.500 unmarked graves,
00:22:57.080 which I think we
00:22:57.780 now know a lot of
00:22:58.560 people have
00:22:59.000 questioned.
00:23:00.060 I don't want to
00:23:00.940 tumble into that
00:23:01.960 bee's nest of a
00:23:03.460 policy conversation.
00:23:05.140 But with her,
00:23:06.480 she took three,
00:23:08.120 or she took,
00:23:09.040 yeah, she took
00:23:09.520 three MLA's with
00:23:10.500 her and she
00:23:10.960 took a chief
00:23:11.480 of staff with
00:23:12.100 her.
00:23:13.160 And that has,
00:23:14.440 and then they
00:23:14.900 created their own
00:23:15.620 party, 1BC.
00:23:17.160 So now we have
00:23:18.200 two conservative
00:23:19.580 parties on the
00:23:21.100 spectrum here.
00:23:22.520 And the BC
00:23:23.680 United or BC
00:23:24.740 Liberals turned
00:23:25.360 into BC United.
00:23:26.600 They're still
00:23:27.020 technically a party.
00:23:28.680 Then their party
00:23:29.660 that didn't, or
00:23:30.540 their members that
00:23:31.200 didn't like that
00:23:32.260 Kevin Falcon had
00:23:33.100 sort of folded and
00:23:34.080 allowed, not ran
00:23:36.000 any candidates during
00:23:36.860 the October election
00:23:37.940 from last year.
00:23:40.040 They, the
00:23:40.960 decision, created
00:23:42.820 the Liberal Party
00:23:43.720 of British Columbia,
00:23:44.920 which we fought
00:23:45.800 to get rid of
00:23:46.640 when we changed
00:23:47.260 their name to
00:23:47.780 BC Liberal and
00:23:48.780 then BC United.
00:23:49.760 So it's a real
00:23:50.860 mess.
00:23:51.740 And right now,
00:23:52.420 what's really sad
00:23:53.300 about this is that
00:23:54.120 John Rustad had
00:23:55.520 the advantage.
00:23:56.680 Right after that
00:23:57.440 election, it was,
00:23:58.740 it was a razor
00:23:59.620 edge election.
00:24:01.380 Mr.
00:24:01.960 Evie definitely
00:24:02.560 does not have a
00:24:03.860 secure mandate and
00:24:04.940 we could go into
00:24:05.720 an election at any
00:24:06.560 time.
00:24:06.800 And quite frankly,
00:24:07.480 we should be going
00:24:08.380 into an election
00:24:08.940 at any time.
00:24:10.120 But the reality is,
00:24:11.360 is this BC
00:24:11.980 Conservative caucus
00:24:12.780 has not been ready
00:24:13.760 for a very long
00:24:14.880 time.
00:24:15.540 It's incredibly
00:24:16.360 disappointing.
00:24:17.120 And when he kicked
00:24:17.700 Eleanor Sturko out,
00:24:18.700 who, by the way,
00:24:19.960 former RCMP
00:24:20.900 officer in the
00:24:22.100 battlefields of
00:24:22.960 Surrey, she was
00:24:23.980 tough on crime.
00:24:25.340 She was, she was a
00:24:26.420 force to be reckoned
00:24:27.240 with.
00:24:27.460 And when she crossed
00:24:28.340 over from BC
00:24:29.120 United and endorsed,
00:24:30.760 basically endorsing the
00:24:31.820 BC Conservatives'
00:24:33.040 platform on crime
00:24:34.940 and justice,
00:24:36.260 many people came
00:24:38.180 with her and it
00:24:39.380 bridged the gap
00:24:40.120 between the ardent
00:24:41.160 social conservatives
00:24:42.280 of the BC
00:24:42.920 Conservative Party
00:24:43.760 that for the last
00:24:45.060 eight years,
00:24:45.980 nine years,
00:24:46.560 haven't been able
00:24:47.140 to get out of
00:24:47.600 their own way
00:24:48.280 and make any
00:24:49.520 advances with
00:24:50.880 the electoral,
00:24:51.700 with the voters
00:24:52.280 here in British
00:24:52.900 Columbia.
00:24:53.620 It bridged the gap
00:24:55.300 between the ardent
00:24:56.300 social conservatives,
00:24:57.920 the sort of social
00:24:58.760 conservatives and
00:24:59.480 fiscal conservatives,
00:25:00.200 and then just the
00:25:01.080 fiscal conservatives
00:25:01.920 and what I would
00:25:02.600 call the blue
00:25:03.160 liberals.
00:25:04.340 I wasn't necessarily
00:25:05.520 totally pleased by
00:25:06.860 bringing more blue
00:25:07.700 liberals over because
00:25:08.440 I thought we got
00:25:09.000 rid of them with
00:25:09.660 the BC United,
00:25:10.580 but I understood
00:25:11.600 that this is
00:25:12.280 British Columbia
00:25:13.000 and we need to,
00:25:14.780 we need to have a
00:25:15.700 larger tent than
00:25:16.540 maybe what they
00:25:17.240 wanted.
00:25:17.900 She brought all of
00:25:18.900 that and she brought
00:25:19.500 credibility.
00:25:20.400 She was the strongest
00:25:21.340 performer in the
00:25:22.200 caucus.
00:25:22.900 There's two other
00:25:23.600 strong performers in
00:25:25.020 the caucus that I can
00:25:26.020 immediately name.
00:25:27.320 Judy Torr and,
00:25:29.060 oh, I said I was
00:25:29.720 going to immediately
00:25:30.200 name them and I
00:25:30.780 forgot the other
00:25:31.340 person's name.
00:25:32.520 But they are
00:25:33.640 strangely quiet and
00:25:35.280 what I understood
00:25:36.120 from somebody that
00:25:36.980 was close to what
00:25:38.600 happened in the
00:25:39.160 caucus room on
00:25:40.620 Monday is it
00:25:42.020 wasn't just one
00:25:43.120 person that was
00:25:43.840 descending,
00:25:44.780 descending from
00:25:45.560 John Rustad's
00:25:46.480 leadership or
00:25:47.020 questioning it.
00:25:47.860 They, there were
00:25:48.620 many, many, many
00:25:49.820 MLAs that were
00:25:50.840 yelling out about
00:25:51.820 how we don't
00:25:52.500 cancel our MLAs.
00:25:53.820 We don't, we're not
00:25:54.460 in the business of
00:25:55.160 cancel culture.
00:25:55.900 They had put up
00:25:56.500 with it, put up
00:25:57.040 with it with Dallas
00:25:57.740 Brody, but they
00:25:58.700 weren't going to put
00:25:59.300 up with it with
00:26:00.000 Eleanor Sturko.
00:26:01.720 And by the way,
00:26:02.900 those were the
00:26:03.640 socially ardent
00:26:04.680 conservatives or the
00:26:05.640 ardently social
00:26:06.320 conservatives that
00:26:07.360 were defending the
00:26:08.460 somewhat liberal
00:26:09.600 Eleanor Sturko.
00:26:10.820 So right now, John
00:26:13.240 Rustad is an
00:26:14.000 anointed leader.
00:26:15.720 He's not an
00:26:16.780 elected leader.
00:26:17.940 It is time for a
00:26:19.440 leadership race.
00:26:20.920 The fraudulent,
00:26:22.420 what is it, 2100-ish
00:26:24.700 votes that ended up
00:26:26.060 being fraudulent for
00:26:28.280 this leadership race
00:26:29.320 demonstrate that
00:26:31.320 there's a significant
00:26:32.080 problem.
00:26:32.740 They all came from
00:26:33.680 one area and there
00:26:35.100 were two IP addresses
00:26:36.560 that were attached to
00:26:37.620 those.
00:26:38.260 There were three
00:26:38.760 credit cards that
00:26:39.620 were used.
00:26:40.080 But the problem
00:26:40.620 is now, Derek,
00:26:41.880 and the rest of
00:26:43.040 you, that we
00:26:44.100 don't know who,
00:26:45.440 if votes got
00:26:46.920 through before we
00:26:47.800 canceled their
00:26:48.340 memberships, all of
00:26:49.240 the above, the
00:26:50.200 whole thing's a
00:26:50.780 mess.
00:26:51.340 We look stupid.
00:26:52.660 We look like we
00:26:53.280 can't get it
00:26:53.740 together.
00:26:54.560 So now it's time
00:26:55.320 for a leadership
00:26:55.740 race.
00:26:56.100 And if Mr.
00:26:56.560 Rustad wants to
00:26:57.340 run again, then
00:26:59.060 he has that
00:27:00.100 opportunity.
00:27:01.160 But we need a
00:27:02.020 leadership race.
00:27:03.400 So, Corey, I
00:27:06.280 mean, it's the
00:27:07.740 unofficial bar for
00:27:09.340 staying in the
00:27:09.760 leadership is pretty
00:27:11.880 much barely what
00:27:13.400 John Rustad got.
00:27:14.600 It was kind of
00:27:15.260 unofficially said at,
00:27:16.560 what was it, 66 or
00:27:17.700 68 by Joe Clark in
00:27:19.760 the late 70s, early,
00:27:23.120 I think in the early
00:27:23.660 80s.
00:27:24.140 Yeah, early 80s.
00:27:25.860 He didn't make it
00:27:26.960 and Cass very
00:27:29.060 honorably stepped
00:27:30.120 down from the
00:27:30.660 leadership and then
00:27:31.400 ran in that
00:27:31.880 leadership again,
00:27:32.660 which he lost to
00:27:33.500 Brian Mulroney.
00:27:34.300 And ever since then,
00:27:35.080 that's kind of been
00:27:35.700 the bar at, you
00:27:36.860 can't hit above
00:27:38.400 two-thirds of
00:27:39.700 your, because
00:27:39.960 this is your own
00:27:40.760 members.
00:27:41.280 This is not, you
00:27:42.480 know, and when
00:27:43.600 you're a leader, you
00:27:44.160 have incredible
00:27:44.920 powers of
00:27:45.720 incumbency.
00:27:46.540 It's a captive
00:27:47.020 audience.
00:27:47.540 They vote right
00:27:47.980 after you talk and
00:27:49.060 everyone's there.
00:27:50.000 Leader, leader,
00:27:50.520 leader.
00:27:51.400 It's extremely rare
00:27:52.840 that leaders outright
00:27:53.900 lose.
00:27:55.020 Jason Kenney would
00:27:56.180 have got, I think
00:27:57.020 he got 51%.
00:27:57.800 He would have
00:27:58.420 gotten well below
00:27:59.000 that if they
00:27:59.440 hadn't rigged that
00:28:00.280 one repeatedly.
00:28:01.760 Thomas Mulcair lost
00:28:03.220 got below 50%.
00:28:04.340 And then John
00:28:05.800 Diefenbaker, for
00:28:06.440 who was created.
00:28:07.620 And that's the
00:28:08.220 reason we have
00:28:08.700 leadership with
00:28:09.220 views now.
00:28:10.860 It was already
00:28:11.960 pretty razor thin
00:28:13.240 at the edge of
00:28:13.860 what's considered
00:28:14.360 an acceptable
00:28:15.140 amount to stay
00:28:16.360 on.
00:28:16.740 I got, I've got
00:28:17.780 no bone to pick
00:28:18.440 with John Rustad.
00:28:19.200 I tend to like
00:28:20.960 the guy, but he
00:28:23.340 has got a very
00:28:25.360 tenuous grasp on
00:28:26.880 his caucus, it
00:28:27.520 seems right now.
00:28:28.300 It seems people
00:28:29.220 are being kicked
00:28:30.420 out for what do
00:28:31.100 not appear to be
00:28:32.140 valid reasons.
00:28:34.200 Maybe I'm
00:28:35.040 projecting a bit,
00:28:36.180 but he's just
00:28:38.680 pushing out anyone
00:28:39.640 who seems to
00:28:41.820 be, have a
00:28:43.420 different opinion
00:28:43.960 on issues.
00:28:47.160 He barely
00:28:48.160 passed an
00:28:49.680 acceptable level
00:28:50.360 of the race,
00:28:51.060 even if those
00:28:51.560 numbers were
00:28:51.920 valid.
00:28:52.660 There is now
00:28:53.400 quite sufficient
00:28:54.400 evidence that
00:28:55.340 this was not a
00:28:56.400 legitimate vote.
00:28:57.560 There were a
00:28:58.440 very significant
00:28:59.220 number of
00:29:00.520 eligible voters,
00:29:02.540 voters, and
00:29:02.840 therefore very
00:29:03.820 likely ballots
00:29:04.860 cast in this
00:29:05.680 leadership that
00:29:06.880 were fraudulent.
00:29:08.960 Derek, it's
00:29:10.200 important to
00:29:10.720 note that
00:29:11.200 elections BC is
00:29:12.320 going to begin,
00:29:13.200 it's very, very,
00:29:14.520 I mean, we're all
00:29:14.960 expecting it, it's
00:29:15.600 going to begin an
00:29:16.180 investigation because
00:29:17.080 they've broken
00:29:17.540 section two of the
00:29:18.500 elections act here.
00:29:19.420 So this is not
00:29:21.280 just a political
00:29:22.260 issue.
00:29:23.260 This speaks to,
00:29:24.820 this is what
00:29:25.560 Eleanor Sturko as
00:29:26.660 a former RCMP
00:29:27.740 member who's
00:29:29.260 misjustice, law,
00:29:30.780 and order, which
00:29:31.480 is why we wanted
00:29:32.700 her in the BC
00:29:33.280 Conservatives, or
00:29:33.900 they wanted her in
00:29:34.620 the BC Conservatives,
00:29:36.000 the reality is this
00:29:37.340 breaks the law if
00:29:38.680 proven true, and
00:29:39.700 it's a death
00:29:40.760 nail for John
00:29:41.780 Rustad's leadership.
00:29:43.580 You know, and
00:29:43.960 it's not the only
00:29:44.740 thing, no leader
00:29:45.760 goes down on one
00:29:46.800 issue, they go down
00:29:47.740 by a thousand cuts
00:29:48.780 and there's been a
00:29:49.540 thousand and one.
00:29:51.000 So I just wanted to
00:29:52.060 point it out, it's
00:29:52.660 not just a political
00:29:53.460 issue, it's now
00:29:54.300 could be an
00:29:54.880 election, a legal
00:29:55.540 issue.
00:29:56.020 Yeah, it could
00:29:56.840 now be legal, but
00:29:59.300 I mean, yeah, it's
00:30:00.420 as Lee said, it's
00:30:01.380 a, you know, it's
00:30:02.360 a piling up of
00:30:03.780 issues.
00:30:04.240 There's been a lot
00:30:05.380 of issues here.
00:30:07.900 Can he stay on
00:30:09.160 without outing
00:30:09.860 another race at
00:30:10.600 this point?
00:30:11.420 Or at a
00:30:12.080 minimum, do they
00:30:12.680 have to do the
00:30:13.120 leadership review
00:30:13.660 again?
00:30:14.300 I don't know, I
00:30:15.180 mean, even, let's
00:30:16.100 just assume that it
00:30:16.840 was valid.
00:30:17.940 That's a tepid
00:30:19.060 endorsement for a
00:30:20.140 man who hasn't been
00:30:20.700 leading very long and
00:30:21.920 long after an
00:30:22.960 election.
00:30:23.320 I mean, we've seen
00:30:23.920 cases where there
00:30:25.140 was an attempt to
00:30:25.760 take a run at
00:30:26.680 Daniel Smith at the
00:30:27.500 last AGM and she
00:30:28.640 surpassed 90%.
00:30:29.980 She got like high
00:30:31.380 90.
00:30:31.780 Yeah, and then
00:30:32.480 Ralph Klein, before
00:30:33.740 his, you know,
00:30:34.840 decline was, Ralph
00:30:36.400 Klein used to win
00:30:37.120 those with 80, 90%
00:30:38.780 way up there.
00:30:39.980 A strong leader
00:30:40.580 should be up there.
00:30:41.260 And the 70 is,
00:30:42.100 that's your warning
00:30:43.420 shot.
00:30:43.740 You're clinging for
00:30:44.360 your life.
00:30:44.880 You've got to do
00:30:45.500 something dramatic
00:30:46.380 because that's going
00:30:47.200 to fester.
00:30:48.240 That's going to get
00:30:48.740 worse.
00:30:49.560 And I don't know, by
00:30:50.500 firing a caucus
00:30:51.200 member the day
00:30:51.720 after is the
00:30:52.360 dramatic move you
00:30:53.160 want to be doing.
00:30:54.140 So he's got a
00:30:55.760 hornet's nest on
00:30:57.600 his hands and he
00:30:58.700 has to make some
00:30:59.840 sort of large pivot.
00:31:01.600 I don't know what
00:31:02.340 that pivot is, but
00:31:03.460 he's in dire, dire
00:31:04.520 trouble.
00:31:04.880 I would say the
00:31:07.140 pivot is that they
00:31:08.020 have to, what he
00:31:09.340 is lacking, mean no
00:31:11.900 offense to the
00:31:12.620 incumbent of the
00:31:13.360 present office, where
00:31:14.620 there isn't a chief
00:31:15.380 of staff running
00:31:17.160 that, everything that
00:31:19.280 happens behind the
00:31:20.840 background, behind the
00:31:23.460 facade, if you don't
00:31:24.660 have a strong party
00:31:25.700 apparatus, which
00:31:26.440 manifestly he
00:31:27.240 doesn't, then these
00:31:29.020 things will happen.
00:31:29.860 And it's not
00:31:30.280 surprising.
00:31:30.760 It all came
00:31:32.580 together at the
00:31:33.240 last minute, well
00:31:34.580 figuratively speaking,
00:31:36.100 what are they, 18
00:31:36.720 months old now?
00:31:38.120 There's a sudden
00:31:39.160 desperate rejection
00:31:42.040 of the NDP and
00:31:43.220 all the NDP stood
00:31:44.220 for.
00:31:45.840 Well, they are.
00:31:47.760 But they are a
00:31:49.000 decade old, decade
00:31:50.420 plus old.
00:31:51.360 I mean, they've been
00:31:51.880 around since I was
00:31:52.920 the ancient history,
00:31:55.700 but in terms of
00:31:56.360 being an electoral
00:31:57.040 force.
00:31:57.320 We go back to
00:31:58.060 like Wacky Bennett
00:31:58.980 and stuff.
00:31:59.320 Well, you should
00:32:00.900 also, I think the
00:32:02.900 viewers would be
00:32:03.460 interested to know
00:32:04.100 one of the greatest
00:32:04.960 problems that I
00:32:06.560 myself have had, but
00:32:08.200 so many others that
00:32:09.600 are more deeply
00:32:10.320 involved have had, is
00:32:11.760 how many NDPers and
00:32:13.380 former NDP chiefs of
00:32:14.620 staff and organizers
00:32:15.720 this guy's hired on
00:32:17.280 his staff.
00:32:18.480 That, to me, spoke
00:32:20.400 volumes.
00:32:21.620 And, I mean, these
00:32:22.520 are people that I
00:32:23.400 literally had very
00:32:26.740 aggressive arguments
00:32:28.540 with when I was
00:32:30.000 when I was a pundit
00:32:31.940 and spokesperson with
00:32:32.680 the BC Liberals.
00:32:33.920 These are people that
00:32:34.840 attacked me during the
00:32:36.120 2011 and 2015
00:32:37.480 federal conservative
00:32:38.620 campaigns, and he
00:32:39.960 brought them on.
00:32:41.440 And then there was
00:32:42.240 this mea culpa.
00:32:43.380 They wrote these
00:32:43.920 letters.
00:32:44.460 They reached out to
00:32:45.060 some of us.
00:32:45.740 We're so sorry for
00:32:46.840 our sins.
00:32:47.660 That has left a
00:32:48.740 terrible taste in the
00:32:49.860 mouth of many, many
00:32:51.620 conservatives.
00:32:52.260 So, yeah, there's
00:32:54.540 that as well.
00:32:55.720 We got to fit for a
00:32:58.340 bit in today, so we
00:32:59.340 have to wrap it
00:32:59.960 there, but I'll just
00:33:00.960 leave with this.
00:33:02.720 If you're watching,
00:33:04.120 John Rustad, you
00:33:05.940 got to tighten your
00:33:07.800 shit up.
00:33:09.380 You got to bring back
00:33:10.440 all the MLAs who
00:33:12.420 have been kicked out
00:33:13.880 or have followed
00:33:15.480 others in solidarity
00:33:16.600 for getting kicked
00:33:17.500 out.
00:33:17.860 you've got to
00:33:20.300 rebuild the party
00:33:20.960 apparatus, and at a
00:33:22.540 minimum, you got to
00:33:23.500 redo this leadership
00:33:24.340 review.
00:33:25.380 I like you.
00:33:26.520 I want you to
00:33:27.160 succeed, but this is
00:33:28.820 not going to succeed.
00:33:30.000 You got to tighten
00:33:30.620 this shit up.
00:33:32.380 All right.
00:33:33.420 Speaking of madness
00:33:34.880 in BC, let's turn to
00:33:36.460 something I can't
00:33:37.460 call it later.
00:33:40.420 Somehow, in a very
00:33:41.860 dark and twisted way,
00:33:43.540 funnier-ish?
00:33:44.820 I don't know.
00:33:45.800 It's bizarre.
00:33:46.520 The ostrich farm
00:33:48.700 owners probably don't
00:33:49.440 consider it funny, but
00:33:50.220 it's just kind of
00:33:50.780 funny in that it's
00:33:51.300 become an international
00:33:52.320 story.
00:33:53.280 The ostrich crisis.
00:33:55.540 Yes, I've got many
00:33:56.400 more puns and
00:33:57.880 attempts at being
00:33:58.780 funny about this
00:33:59.660 coming your way.
00:34:01.060 I've also called it
00:34:01.840 ostrich Waco.
00:34:03.480 Someone in our
00:34:03.980 newsroom called it
00:34:05.300 ostrich Ridge,
00:34:06.660 alluding to Ruby
00:34:07.340 Ridge.
00:34:09.380 So, you know,
00:34:10.560 very long story
00:34:11.200 short, concerns
00:34:13.320 about avian flu and
00:34:14.220 whatnot, but none of
00:34:15.260 the existing birds
00:34:16.020 have any traces of
00:34:16.920 it that we know
00:34:17.600 of, and the
00:34:18.420 government is
00:34:18.900 hell-bent on
00:34:20.020 murdering, massacring
00:34:21.400 these poor, noble
00:34:24.180 birds.
00:34:25.740 But the owners are
00:34:26.720 not putting their
00:34:27.380 head in the sand.
00:34:28.640 They're fighting on.
00:34:29.540 See, I can keep
00:34:30.340 going.
00:34:30.820 I see that.
00:34:31.640 I got more.
00:34:33.160 I'm here on.
00:34:35.520 They're fighting on.
00:34:38.100 The cops showed up
00:34:39.520 yesterday with a
00:34:42.020 warrant to take the
00:34:44.740 birds away.
00:34:45.720 The owners of the
00:34:47.140 birds and the
00:34:47.640 farm did not
00:34:48.600 comply.
00:34:49.180 They were arrested,
00:34:51.000 taken away from
00:34:52.220 their beautiful birds,
00:34:54.160 and I guess the
00:34:56.480 RC, maybe it was the
00:34:58.140 RCs, but there was
00:35:00.000 cops there with the
00:35:01.700 wildlife guys.
00:35:03.560 Set up barriers so
00:35:05.280 that the news cameras
00:35:06.860 couldn't get any
00:35:08.540 footage of them
00:35:09.460 murdering the birds.
00:35:10.560 And then I got to
00:35:11.920 give hats off to a
00:35:12.920 friendly competitor
00:35:13.560 here.
00:35:15.200 Rebel News rented a
00:35:16.600 friggin' helicopter.
00:35:19.220 It started circling
00:35:20.620 above.
00:35:21.200 Let's make sure we
00:35:21.760 got some footage
00:35:22.360 playing on the side
00:35:23.120 here.
00:35:23.680 Rebel News rented a
00:35:24.880 friggin' helicopter.
00:35:27.220 I think it would have
00:35:27.980 been cheaper to get a
00:35:28.580 drone, but anyway,
00:35:29.960 they got a helicopter,
00:35:30.720 made it more funny,
00:35:31.940 and going overhead,
00:35:33.380 and just before the
00:35:34.700 axe comes down to
00:35:35.640 murder these birds,
00:35:38.420 they get a court
00:35:39.060 injunction, putting a
00:35:41.020 stay on, a stay of
00:35:41.880 execution, maybe you'd
00:35:43.080 call it.
00:35:44.040 So the birds are
00:35:45.280 alive right now,
00:35:47.760 but they're still
00:35:48.520 slotted to be killed.
00:35:51.060 I don't know who
00:35:51.840 wants to pick up this
00:35:52.740 one.
00:35:53.780 Well, you know, as a
00:35:54.980 sort of an animal
00:35:55.680 lover and a
00:35:56.300 sentimentalist, of
00:35:57.520 course, I'm delighted
00:35:58.720 that the birds are
00:36:00.420 going to make it.
00:36:01.020 This has got all the
00:36:02.600 makings of a Disney
00:36:03.640 movie one day, or
00:36:05.720 at least it would have
00:36:06.300 been days when Disney
00:36:07.160 wasn't so crazy, but
00:36:08.240 at any rate, this is
00:36:09.360 a happy story because
00:36:10.540 people are rallying to
00:36:13.100 the defense of the
00:36:14.260 defenseless birds.
00:36:17.220 I feel a little sorry
00:36:18.360 for the police.
00:36:19.040 I don't think this is a
00:36:19.820 job that makes them
00:36:20.680 look good, and they're
00:36:21.520 probably a very, you
00:36:23.060 know, they don't want
00:36:23.760 to be doing this.
00:36:27.120 But, you know, there's
00:36:29.080 one small thing that
00:36:31.340 takes the thrill out of
00:36:33.540 it for me, and that is
00:36:34.860 that the stay of
00:36:35.820 execution was based on
00:36:38.600 an argument that this
00:36:41.060 farm is on native land,
00:36:43.660 therefore, the native
00:36:46.360 land is, you know,
00:36:48.420 basically, we're not in
00:36:49.540 favor.
00:36:50.120 That's the grounds for
00:36:51.560 not murdering the birds?
00:36:52.720 Yeah, like, as if Indians
00:36:57.000 wouldn't eat ostriches if
00:36:58.140 they ever had them, but
00:36:59.000 wasn't there a long
00:36:59.640 saying, any ostrich
00:37:00.940 hunting tribe out there
00:37:02.280 in interior B.C.?
00:37:03.340 I don't know.
00:37:04.840 Was there?
00:37:05.480 No, I don't think so.
00:37:07.300 I think that's fake news,
00:37:08.340 Corey.
00:37:08.700 Yeah.
00:37:09.020 I think that's fake news.
00:37:09.780 You know what I think it
00:37:11.160 was?
00:37:12.160 I think what it is, is up
00:37:13.760 in northeastern B.C.,
00:37:15.900 there's a, it's a, you'll
00:37:17.800 recognize it, it's got a
00:37:18.960 real Albertan feel to it,
00:37:20.640 you know, freedom and
00:37:21.880 liberty and all the above.
00:37:23.560 And out there, there are
00:37:25.980 many First Nations that,
00:37:28.060 like the gun buyback
00:37:29.860 program, will oppose
00:37:31.540 what was happening with
00:37:34.760 the ostriches.
00:37:35.580 And I think what they did
00:37:36.820 was they rightfully so
00:37:38.480 laid down their
00:37:40.160 ancestral rights as a
00:37:41.840 way of just blocking
00:37:42.880 it.
00:37:43.720 I don't think this was
00:37:44.640 meant to be, I
00:37:45.600 understand your concern,
00:37:47.060 Nigel, a lot of people
00:37:48.000 have remarked upon that,
00:37:50.020 but this, I think, was
00:37:51.160 friendly fire in the
00:37:52.720 sense of, okay, well,
00:37:54.660 then we're going to use
00:37:55.540 our title, right?
00:37:57.080 And because it had
00:37:58.320 turned into a nutcase
00:38:00.000 situation.
00:38:01.460 Well, I have to say, if
00:38:03.320 our Canadian border
00:38:04.200 services operated like,
00:38:06.280 you know, the Canadian
00:38:07.320 Food Inspection Agency,
00:38:08.440 we would know where
00:38:09.820 those 178 very dangerous
00:38:12.840 illegal aliens are
00:38:14.280 residing in this
00:38:15.440 country.
00:38:16.300 They, I, and I
00:38:17.980 commend our competitor
00:38:19.280 Rebel, because what
00:38:20.260 began to happen was
00:38:21.480 there was these
00:38:22.920 clandestine movements by
00:38:25.180 the Food Inspection
00:38:26.400 Agency, and it had
00:38:28.280 nothing to do with the
00:38:29.220 RCMP.
00:38:30.200 They were acting like
00:38:31.160 they were on the hunt
00:38:32.040 for Bin Laden, and
00:38:33.840 they actually cut the
00:38:34.880 power to the ranch,
00:38:36.360 right?
00:38:36.700 So you're watching this
00:38:38.680 in real time.
00:38:39.920 I think our reporters
00:38:41.080 covered it.
00:38:41.940 Many others covered it
00:38:43.160 too.
00:38:43.700 And it reminded me of
00:38:44.840 that Bin Laden video
00:38:46.660 that you saw where it's
00:38:47.700 dark and the seals come
00:38:48.840 out.
00:38:49.380 That was what was
00:38:50.200 happening.
00:38:50.780 So it's a total
00:38:52.300 embarrassment.
00:38:53.520 I'm embarrassed.
00:38:54.720 I'm really embarrassed
00:38:55.640 of the Canadians.
00:38:56.640 I was kind of shit
00:39:00.360 posting last night when
00:39:01.380 I said it was Ostrich
00:39:02.400 Waco, and then video
00:39:04.160 play.
00:39:04.420 Let's put the video up
00:39:05.260 of someone alleged it
00:39:08.200 was fire, that there
00:39:09.680 was fire going on in
00:39:10.780 the Ostrich Sarm.
00:39:12.000 And I thought, oh my
00:39:12.840 God, the FBI and ATF
00:39:14.100 are using CS gas?
00:39:15.680 They're trying, what,
00:39:16.540 they're going to cover
00:39:17.100 it up by murdering
00:39:18.100 everybody?
00:39:19.220 Now, I was, I did
00:39:20.880 comment on that video
00:39:21.740 because I couldn't
00:39:22.300 verify it was the
00:39:23.040 farm.
00:39:23.300 It has since been
00:39:24.120 verified.
00:39:24.360 Yeah, there was, I
00:39:25.220 guess, a fire at the
00:39:26.220 farm.
00:39:27.020 Yeah.
00:39:27.520 I don't know how the
00:39:28.460 hell that happened,
00:39:29.220 but as far as I know,
00:39:31.420 no, they did not use
00:39:32.700 CS gas and murder all
00:39:34.660 of the...
00:39:35.580 Bring some barbecue
00:39:36.540 sauce and make the
00:39:37.360 most of it.
00:39:37.920 Yeah.
00:39:38.260 Oh, and just fact
00:39:39.840 checking you, I think
00:39:41.060 ostriches are indigenous
00:39:42.240 to Australia.
00:39:43.500 Yes.
00:39:44.040 No, but just a side
00:39:45.420 note for where I was
00:39:46.200 going with that.
00:39:47.040 There was a case in
00:39:49.040 interior BC where
00:39:50.700 First Nations band won
00:39:52.420 by claiming that this
00:39:54.220 valley is an area
00:39:55.180 where they had been
00:39:55.760 hunting and managing
00:39:56.660 wild horses for
00:39:57.540 hundreds and hundreds
00:39:58.140 and horses, but the
00:39:59.220 horses aren't
00:39:59.760 indigenous either.
00:40:00.960 No, because
00:40:01.740 because indigenous
00:40:03.200 science is to be
00:40:04.240 considered unquestioning,
00:40:06.400 the judge still ruled
00:40:07.380 in their favor and
00:40:08.000 said, well, if they
00:40:08.520 said so, then I
00:40:09.460 guess screw the
00:40:10.560 lack of...
00:40:10.800 Well, me and my
00:40:11.680 ancestors have been
00:40:12.760 hunting ostriches of
00:40:14.240 Rocky View County for
00:40:15.100 five years.
00:40:15.560 So they could claim
00:40:16.420 to be ostrich hunters
00:40:17.280 and might have a case
00:40:18.220 handmade.
00:40:18.520 But the end of the
00:40:20.220 story is that the
00:40:21.020 taxpayers are now
00:40:22.120 footing the bill for
00:40:23.160 the health and the
00:40:24.140 food and the care of
00:40:25.440 these ostriches, as
00:40:26.500 our former agriculture
00:40:27.880 minister, Jerry
00:40:28.640 Ritz, pointed out on
00:40:30.960 Twitter today.
00:40:32.980 Now it's all up to the
00:40:35.360 state to take care of
00:40:36.440 them because they're
00:40:37.060 literally in a holding
00:40:38.200 pattern or a holding
00:40:39.620 pen right now.
00:40:40.600 Nobody has...
00:40:41.860 It's my understanding
00:40:42.720 or Jerry's
00:40:43.260 understanding.
00:40:43.760 The original owners
00:40:46.200 or the true owners
00:40:47.420 don't...
00:40:48.300 They have no
00:40:49.120 interaction with these
00:40:50.000 ostriches.
00:40:50.500 So it's back to the
00:40:51.200 taxpayers it goes, as
00:40:52.760 per usual in Canada.
00:40:54.360 But I will say this.
00:40:55.600 If my suspicion is
00:40:56.940 correct and the
00:40:57.680 First Nations there
00:40:58.480 did this just to push
00:41:00.160 back, this is where
00:41:02.880 we can come together.
00:41:04.060 I like that.
00:41:05.240 It's kind of a nice
00:41:06.320 part for the story.
00:41:08.360 The big lab deal
00:41:09.800 search was good too.
00:41:10.980 What the reconciliation
00:41:11.580 looks like.
00:41:12.540 Yeah, you know, yeah.
00:41:13.760 We're using it for
00:41:14.740 good.
00:41:15.580 And I'll just say
00:41:16.600 this.
00:41:17.420 This is how we've
00:41:18.140 been harping on the
00:41:18.800 government for murdering
00:41:19.680 these poor birds.
00:41:20.680 But there is a place
00:41:22.620 for culling.
00:41:23.660 Avian flu is very
00:41:24.880 serious.
00:41:25.560 It can sweep through
00:41:26.600 a flock and get
00:41:27.920 beyond that flock and
00:41:28.900 damage other flocks at
00:41:30.340 other farms.
00:41:31.280 There is a place for
00:41:32.880 state intervention in
00:41:33.980 culling animals
00:41:34.780 sometimes.
00:41:36.900 It would appear,
00:41:38.360 though, that this is
00:41:38.920 overzealous that they
00:41:41.020 have gone to
00:41:41.740 significant lengths to
00:41:42.680 prove that there is
00:41:43.860 no avian flu in the
00:41:44.640 remaining birds.
00:41:45.380 Some did die from
00:41:46.400 it.
00:41:46.940 Some died and they're
00:41:47.860 not sure what from.
00:41:50.140 But I mean, so what
00:41:51.740 I'm not saying that
00:41:52.840 there is never a time
00:41:53.740 to kill the ostriches.
00:41:55.360 I'm just saying this
00:41:56.220 was probably not it.
00:41:57.540 And the government's
00:41:58.040 making an ass of
00:41:58.720 itself.
00:41:59.680 And I also think we're
00:42:00.980 missing a huge
00:42:01.640 opportunity to test how
00:42:03.160 they got such a strong
00:42:04.920 herd immunity.
00:42:05.680 immunity.
00:42:07.240 But I think that the
00:42:08.560 government is hell
00:42:09.360 bent on this.
00:42:10.180 I think they're
00:42:10.620 probably going to try
00:42:11.340 and test them for
00:42:11.980 COVID next.
00:42:12.800 I'm not so sure.
00:42:14.080 They'll come up with
00:42:14.800 some sort of animal
00:42:15.580 COVID.
00:42:17.100 But I agree with you,
00:42:19.020 Derek.
00:42:19.200 The one thing we need
00:42:19.920 to remember is look
00:42:20.720 what happened in the
00:42:21.480 UK with the cows.
00:42:22.740 Look what we you have
00:42:24.380 to take this very
00:42:25.260 seriously.
00:42:26.140 But I think they've
00:42:26.880 proven time and time
00:42:27.860 again in this case that
00:42:28.820 there is a strong herd
00:42:30.140 immunity.
00:42:31.620 And the problem is,
00:42:32.340 is the Canadian Food
00:42:33.100 Inspection Agency is
00:42:34.220 using the comparables of
00:42:35.480 the analysis from
00:42:36.300 chickens on on avian
00:42:38.560 flu.
00:42:39.180 This is a completely
00:42:40.020 different species.
00:42:41.760 And and they have been
00:42:43.640 able to demonstrate
00:42:44.400 that.
00:42:44.980 So it'll be interesting
00:42:46.140 to see what their
00:42:48.260 legal appeal or their
00:42:49.460 court case looks like.
00:42:50.420 And I'm sure they're
00:42:51.200 going to have lots of
00:42:51.960 lawyers volunteering to
00:42:53.220 join to support them.
00:42:55.640 Her immunity is just a
00:42:57.040 myth meant by invented
00:42:58.540 by anti-vaxxers to not
00:42:59.920 do their duty for
00:43:00.620 society.
00:43:03.000 It's so interesting.
00:43:04.140 We don't have time for
00:43:07.760 our last segment because
00:43:08.540 we've had to fit the
00:43:09.780 hostage crisis in.
00:43:11.780 So we're just going to
00:43:12.620 go to we're going to go
00:43:14.060 with a parting shot.
00:43:14.780 But what I'm going to do
00:43:15.420 is I'm just going to make
00:43:16.020 that last fourth segment
00:43:17.140 my parting shot on the
00:43:19.480 notwithstanding clause.
00:43:20.900 You've got the NDP here
00:43:22.620 in Alberta fighting
00:43:24.880 against using the not
00:43:26.420 withstanding clause,
00:43:27.480 which appears to be the
00:43:28.840 Alberta government's
00:43:29.500 intention here to pass
00:43:31.460 what they call anti-trans
00:43:33.080 legislation, which is
00:43:34.080 things like keeping boys
00:43:35.800 out of girls sports
00:43:36.920 and, you know,
00:43:40.920 giving making sure
00:43:43.220 schools don't change
00:43:44.780 the pronouns of young
00:43:46.700 children without parental
00:43:47.920 knowledge or consent,
00:43:49.760 that kind of thing.
00:43:51.260 They're fighting against
00:43:52.320 the right to use the not
00:43:53.020 withstanding clause there.
00:43:54.220 And then in Quebec,
00:43:55.920 Quebec government, I don't
00:43:57.080 know all the details of
00:43:57.860 their bill, but it's
00:43:58.420 another one of these
00:43:59.140 Quebec identity bills.
00:44:02.080 Quebec being Quebec,
00:44:03.620 doing Quebec stuff.
00:44:05.640 And in it, they're using
00:44:06.960 the notwithstanding clause,
00:44:07.980 which they've done many
00:44:09.120 times in the past.
00:44:11.460 And the federal government
00:44:12.840 is fighting them in court
00:44:13.880 for their ability to use
00:44:15.040 it.
00:44:16.520 The notwithstanding clause
00:44:17.900 could be used for
00:44:19.020 illegitimate purposes.
00:44:19.840 If I was an Anglophone
00:44:21.160 living in Quebec, I would
00:44:22.220 not like its use.
00:44:25.120 But that is not how the
00:44:27.000 notwithstanding clause is
00:44:27.740 written.
00:44:28.060 It doesn't say if you
00:44:29.320 agree with using it or
00:44:30.120 not with using it.
00:44:31.040 It is a part of the
00:44:32.340 Charter of Rights and
00:44:33.060 Freedoms.
00:44:33.560 It was put forward by
00:44:34.620 Albertus Peter Lougheed.
00:44:36.660 The Charter of Rights and
00:44:38.160 Freedoms would not have
00:44:39.620 been passed.
00:44:40.240 They come into existence
00:44:41.120 without the notwithstanding
00:44:42.800 clause in it, because it
00:44:44.120 was meant to prevent the
00:44:45.360 hyper-presidentialization and
00:44:47.920 written constitutionalization
00:44:49.580 or Americanization, if you
00:44:51.060 will, of our
00:44:51.980 constitution, intruding on
00:44:53.420 our Westminster
00:44:53.960 traditions.
00:44:54.600 It's a perfectly legitimate
00:44:59.300 tool to be used, sometimes
00:45:00.560 for good reasons, sometimes
00:45:01.760 for bad.
00:45:02.240 That'll depend on your
00:45:03.480 reasons.
00:45:04.160 But the liberals are trying
00:45:05.500 to get the courts here to
00:45:07.820 unilaterally rewrite the
00:45:10.340 constitution itself.
00:45:11.480 It's one thing, and probably
00:45:13.440 not good, but it's one thing
00:45:16.080 when the courts rewrite
00:45:17.600 legislation.
00:45:18.740 It's something else entirely
00:45:20.200 when they rewrite the
00:45:21.400 constitution itself.
00:45:22.960 That invalidates the
00:45:24.540 constitution if the judges
00:45:25.820 get to write it.
00:45:27.060 Couldn't agree more.
00:45:28.840 Excellent.
00:45:29.580 No.
00:45:30.500 So I'm just, you know, doing
00:45:32.240 the headline scan for this
00:45:34.360 program today.
00:45:36.380 So I see two things.
00:45:38.280 On the one hand, Carney
00:45:39.980 recognizes Palestine.
00:45:41.680 That is going to make it
00:45:42.880 harder to deal with the
00:45:43.760 United States, because the
00:45:45.120 United States is not
00:45:46.320 recognizing Palestine, nor
00:45:48.740 should they, and nor should
00:45:51.320 we, but it is going to make
00:45:52.880 the trade, it's like poking
00:45:54.920 your finger in Trump's eye
00:45:57.260 and it's just, why would you
00:45:58.980 do that?
00:45:59.980 He did it, even though
00:46:02.020 neither of the two
00:46:03.780 conditions that he announced
00:46:05.020 a month ago have been met.
00:46:06.760 Hamas is not disarming, and
00:46:08.260 there's no commitment to a
00:46:09.820 two-state solution on the
00:46:11.080 other side.
00:46:12.260 So anyway, there's your one
00:46:13.520 headline.
00:46:14.820 Then on the other, this is
00:46:16.560 the National Post, I'm sorry,
00:46:17.940 but Carney touts trade
00:46:19.960 possibilities with China.
00:46:22.280 Aims to meet with Xi.
00:46:25.020 You get it?
00:46:26.260 Screw the U.S.
00:46:27.400 We're going to work with
00:46:28.380 China, and this is what
00:46:31.560 Canada's future looks like
00:46:34.360 with Mr. Carney.
00:46:36.320 Not a good thing.
00:46:38.360 Corey.
00:46:39.680 Well, BC NDP Finance
00:46:42.540 Minister Brenda Blair went to
00:46:44.160 Boston and blew over $6,000
00:46:46.460 riding around in a limousine.
00:46:48.520 This is a pure socialist and
00:46:50.020 socialist action, telling
00:46:51.180 everyone to tighten their
00:46:52.480 belts for the sake of the
00:46:53.520 collective whilst riding in
00:46:55.200 luxury.
00:46:56.080 These are the gems that
00:46:57.520 Rustad's missing out on
00:46:58.860 while he's busy fighting with
00:47:00.420 his own party.
00:47:00.980 Limousine liberals.
00:47:03.560 Limousine Marxist millionaires.
00:47:06.400 Champagne socialists.
00:47:08.120 Well, I hope that wasn't you.
00:47:09.460 It was a BC one, so I hope
00:47:10.840 Corey can steal that from you.
00:47:13.080 No, I saw that.
00:47:15.100 Well done on you, Corey,
00:47:16.220 because that was, well, I'm
00:47:18.360 from BC.
00:47:19.080 I know this NDP.
00:47:20.140 It was not a surprise to me.
00:47:22.160 Has anyone heard of Uber
00:47:23.380 Black?
00:47:24.000 I mean, $6,000 on a limo.
00:47:26.880 Champagne socialists.
00:47:27.940 So my one show, we'll have
00:47:36.120 to talk about how my gender
00:47:37.800 seems to be scandal ridden the
00:47:40.600 moment they get into the
00:47:41.740 Governor General's residence.
00:47:42.960 We haven't had one, three in a
00:47:44.600 row.
00:47:45.220 My parting shot, my parting
00:47:47.380 shot, it bleeds out from what
00:47:49.900 Corey just said.
00:47:50.980 It's time for John Rustad to
00:47:52.380 call a leadership race.
00:47:53.860 BC is in serious financial,
00:47:56.300 economic, and social trouble,
00:47:58.580 and we are not going to be able
00:48:00.180 to get to where we need to get
00:48:01.760 to with the NDP.
00:48:03.840 EB's leadership is very shaky.
00:48:05.980 His own caucus is looking at him,
00:48:07.680 questioning whether they want to
00:48:08.780 go with him, they want to go
00:48:10.740 any further.
00:48:11.440 We need a conservative leadership
00:48:13.520 race in British Columbia.
00:48:15.640 All right.
00:48:16.760 There we go.
00:48:18.240 Elise, Corey, Nigel, thank you
00:48:20.360 very much.
00:48:21.480 Thank you, gentlemen.
00:48:23.140 Elise.
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