Western Standard - The Pipeline： King's Bench rejects Hinshaw's public health orders

00:00:00.000 good evening and welcome to the pipeline i'm cory morgan this is the western standards weekly

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00:00:32.240 editor dave naylor thanks for joining us for the pipeline this week dave you know i'm starting to

00:00:36.960 notice a pattern here cory you and nigel and i working nice hot summer day where's derek where's

00:00:44.480 derek i'm always filling in for derek in the summer i'm certain it was something terribly

00:00:48.640 Oh, it's very important, I'm sure.

00:00:51.040 And as well, loyally showing up on such a beautiful day, our opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford, thanks for making it into the studio today.

00:00:59.480 I've timed my vacation so that I don't miss the pipeline.

00:01:02.600 Oh, well, and our viewers appreciate that.

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00:01:10.000 I'm sure it'll happen.

00:01:10.780 I tend to escape in wintertime.

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00:02:08.000 us keep that news going and out to you. All right, we're going to start with a big one, and it's been

00:02:12.620 just rocking the website the last little while. Unsurprisingly, the Court of King's Bench, still

00:02:18.020 sounds strange saying that, it's going to take a while to get used to that, has rejected Hinshaw's

00:02:23.620 public health orders. Dave, what happened? Well, you're right, Corey, this is a blockbuster, and it's

00:02:28.880 going to cause legal waves for months, if not years. Court of King's Bench Justice threw out

00:02:38.820 of all of Dr. Dina Hinshaw's COVID orders, basically saying that it was a cabinet that

00:02:46.500 decided it. Should have come directly from her, but no, it was basically Jason Kenney and his

00:02:53.500 cabinet that that came up with them so she's the the justice has thrown them all out they're now

00:02:59.820 moot uh you know just some of the backlashes uh i mean you remember they were throwing pastors in

00:03:05.180 jail uh james coates uh uh the polowski family uh you know they were there it was crazy the the 0.78

00:03:13.660 the people that they were uh they were locking up all those charges are now irrelevant and obviously

00:03:19.540 the Crown's going to have to consider their next step.

00:03:24.860 Things like the No More Lockdown Rodeo with our good friend Ty Northcott.

00:03:30.440 You know, he's still before the courts and his wife with a whole raft of charges.

00:03:34.720 They're all moot now.

00:03:36.240 So Western Standards spoke to the Justice Minister today, Mickey Amory.

00:03:41.840 He says they're going to take a complex ruling and they've got 30 days to decide whether

00:03:47.380 or not they're going to appeal.

00:03:49.540 And I'm sure they're going to use all 30 days now, Corey.

00:03:53.040 Well, yeah, Nigel, I mean, just to dive into the political end of this problem.

00:03:56.860 And it's now become a problem that's landed on the Smiths government's lap.

00:04:00.960 Because Premier Smith has really built a lot of her base, though, in supporting the people who were upset with the lockdowns and such.

00:04:09.500 They're going to be very happy with this ruling.

00:04:12.200 But the government could find it's very, very vulnerable to a lot of legal actions and distress if this ruling stands.

00:04:19.620 So, I mean, she's between a rock and a hard place. 0.95

00:04:22.160 If she appeals this, her base is going to go bananas.

00:04:24.640 But if she doesn't appeal this, this could cost untold amounts of time and money.

00:04:29.560 Well, it certainly could.

00:04:31.900 You know, I mean, I think this is one she'd be glad to lose, you know.

00:04:35.280 and there is an obligation upon the government always to challenge rulings that seem to go

00:04:44.480 against it. Possibly she could get some advice that says you actually don't have a case about

00:04:51.140 them. Do yourself and the taxpayers a favor and don't invest a lot of money in fighting it.

00:04:58.120 But, you know, the thing that really strikes me about this one is, I'm very, obviously, I'm very glad for the pastors involved, you know, for James Coates, for Tim Stevens, for, you mentioned the Pulaski family, I'm glad for them.

00:05:17.840 Looks like they're off the hook.

00:05:20.880 But from the larger point of view of what have they just done to us in COVID?

00:05:28.120 So this is a win on a technicality.

00:05:31.580 It is not the win that I would like to have seen, which would have been won based on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, namely that what was done was unconstitutional.

00:05:43.320 I mean, that's what I believe.

00:05:45.080 I think there's a lot of people who believe that with me.

00:05:47.760 um i'm not sure that's what the courts believe but in this particular case what they struck down

00:05:56.900 was if those were not if she she distanced herself in her testimony from her own rulings

00:06:03.840 well i'd that were those are my recommendations and it was the cabinet that did it well all right

00:06:10.820 i guess they're not really proper public health orders are they and case dismissed that's great

00:06:17.360 for those who benefit from it, and it'll be great for anybody who sues and wins a lottery,

00:06:27.200 but as somebody wanting to see liberty, freedom established, confirmed,

00:06:36.480 this is not the way I wanted to see it. I wanted them to rule on the charter of rights and say

00:06:43.440 that they did not actually have the right to do what they did, we don't have that.

00:06:48.800 So they didn't say the restrictions were wrong, they're just saying that the way the restrictions

00:06:53.120 were done was wrong. And that presumably was in order to say we could still do it again down the

00:06:57.760 road, but now don't do it this way. Make sure that you communicate it that way. But I mean,

00:07:03.660 it's still open to hornet's nest. I imagine some other provinces have to be watching this

00:07:07.580 ruling as well. I mean, how did they do that? Well, there will be a certain amount of thumbing

00:07:11.740 back through the uh you know well just a second did we sign this or did they say yeah right now

00:07:17.880 it's lawyers whose eyes are lighting oh yeah can you imagine the amount of the number of people

00:07:22.540 that could sue the sue the province everybody who's lost their job due to vaccine mandates

00:07:27.900 you know police from police officers to firefighters to teachers uh nurses it's

00:07:35.880 endless i mean you talk about you know billions and billions of dollars with the class action suits

00:07:42.000 So, I mean, you know, Nigel's right.

00:07:46.420 Is the government going to fight it just to try and prevent that loss to the treasury?

00:07:52.120 Because, you know, I mean, the lawyers are signing up clients as we speak.

00:07:56.240 And there's a lot of damages that are difficult to measure.

00:07:58.920 You know, what about once in a lifetime incidents, graduations, weddings, funerals?

00:08:05.280 You can't have a redo on those sorts of things.

00:08:08.200 But where do you put a price tag on something like that?

00:08:11.220 People will have a very valid case to bring before the government and say, well, you can't turn the clock back, but darn it, I want some compensation for the distress you put us there.

00:08:21.000 And politically, a fallout for Premier Smith is a lot of the cabinet ministers in Kenny's government who signed off on these things are now in her government.

00:08:31.740 What does she do with him? 0.98

00:08:32.700 It's a sticky thing. I guess the only consolation she could take is the agonizingly slow pace of our court system. I mean, it's going to be years as this continues to drag out, but the precedent it's set right now, well, I guess we'll know in a month what they're going to appeal. That's something they can't drag their feet on.

00:08:48.940 You know, what she can say is, look, I knew this was wrong when they were doing it.

00:08:54.620 I said it was wrong.

00:08:56.940 And now my predecessors have left me this time bomb.

00:09:04.460 As premier of the province, I have no alternative but to do what's constitutionally expected on me, which is to appeal this.

00:09:14.160 And we will.

00:09:15.380 But I do so with no enthusiasm and with a certain amount of smug superiority.

00:09:24.140 And I call this thing right in the first place.

00:09:26.340 We'll do what we have to do, but if we lose, well, that's...

00:09:30.680 I'd certainly tell you've written some political speeches.

00:09:34.180 But, I mean, it's true, and just hedging the bets.

00:09:36.700 And, I mean, she is taking on multiple roles from her past critique,

00:09:40.160 but now she's got a broader responsibility as the premier for the whole province.

00:09:44.880 If she does not appeal, she's making a political statement, and that's a statement

00:09:51.460 a lot of people would agree with, but also she would expose her to the charge that she was not 0.92

00:09:58.880 doing her constitutional duty. And I would put it in the hands of somebody else and talk about

00:10:06.540 something more pleasant. Yeah, well, as Dave said, the lawyers are rubbing their hands together on

00:10:11.600 in every level of this, particularly the class action ones,

00:10:14.560 but even government ones, you've got a lot of security coming

00:10:16.600 when you know that there's going to be,

00:10:18.660 it'd probably be a good time to hire more courts 0.99

00:10:20.780 and judges right now.

00:10:22.560 What do you do with somebody who's been a policeman

00:10:25.940 for 20 years, won't take the vaccine that was ordered

00:10:29.640 by, apparently by Dina Hinshaw, but in fact not?

00:10:34.420 You know, it was a pretty substantial claim

00:10:36.200 for loss of income, loss of reputation,

00:10:40.520 Because, let's face it, if you were a holdout on vaccination,

00:10:44.400 people just didn't say, well, to each their own.

00:10:47.200 They actually condemned you.

00:10:49.440 You were an enemy of the people.

00:10:51.360 Vilified on social media.

00:10:52.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:53.680 And proving damages.

00:10:54.920 A smasher of pennies from the eyes of the dead.

00:10:56.940 There was no thing that was too vile for them to say about you

00:11:00.760 if you had a principal objection to taking the vaccine on the orders of the government.

00:11:06.500 Well, the vaccine passports were the big controversial thing.

00:11:09.420 with, not just from the people coerced into vaccination, but as a former restaurant owner,

00:11:13.760 I think I wouldn't have wanted that in the front of my restaurant, having my hostesses barraged 1.00

00:11:18.140 with the complaints and the customers being upset. And there's no doubt that it had a negative impact

00:11:23.500 on my revenue as a business owner. So yes, lawyers, I'm sure looking for more areas for your class

00:11:29.060 actions, reach out to the restaurant. Well, the restaurants that claim lost revenue because of

00:11:35.380 the vaccine passport. I mean, even if you supported it, when you no longer can, you know,

00:11:41.220 with the 10 or 20% of people or whatever who weren't vaccinated, that's lost customer base.

00:11:45.720 You know, since you raised the matter, Corey, of restaurants, this is one of the things that

00:11:51.420 is going to make this case a very difficult one to resolve, is that regulations varied among the

00:11:59.140 provinces so restaurants you say in british columbia because of this virus they shut the

00:12:08.580 churches but closed the restaurant i'm sorry kept the restaurants open in alberta they did the exact

00:12:14.020 opposite you know yeah so it's not a consistency you are so whoever is fighting this case is saying

00:12:21.480 well why did you do what you did they did it differently somewhere else in quebec we had

00:12:27.420 curfews in alberta you didn't uh what is the on what basis were these decisions made nobody's

00:12:35.040 going to come out of this looking good no the covet's not behind us and i'm not talking about

00:12:40.200 the people saying we should still mask up and everything just the fallout from the actions

00:12:43.960 are going to go on for years and years to come well you know with the masks cory i think we've

00:12:48.840 got to take a very live and let live sort of attitude about it i was out about and i saw

00:12:54.460 people in the open air in a big parking lot going to a going to a shopping mall got the mask on

00:13:00.940 you know i don't know what their circumstances are maybe they're as long as it's not mandated

00:13:05.260 wear whatever you want you know it's it's um to each their own but that was never conceded to

00:13:12.460 people who were anti-mask or anti-vaccine while this thing was going on there's a lot of ill

00:13:18.940 feelings that need the judges will need to consider when they're handing out the judgments

00:13:24.460 Oh, the hornet's nest has been poked. I guess we'll keep watching and covering as it unfolds.

00:13:29.400 All right. Well, before we get to the next subject, I'll speak of another group that does stand up for your rights, actually, and takes legal challenges, non-COVID related.

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00:14:28.340 You'll not be sorry for it. Okay. Next, Chrystia Freeland. Oh, he's a fun subject. One of our more

00:14:38.000 senior politicians. Boy, she seems to have gotten herself into quite a mess over her transportation, 1.00

00:14:44.180 dave she have she absolutely has uh she was at a press conference down in the maritimes and a

00:14:50.980 local reporter asked her about the carbon tax and how much that's shot up the amount of gasoline and

00:14:56.900 how it's affecting people down there and what was her reaction and how should people deal with it

00:15:01.780 and she got on her high horse and said well you know i live in toronto i live 150 feet from the

00:15:07.940 subway i don't drive a car and if you're worried about fuel taxes come move to toronto and buy a

00:15:13.380 million dollar house and live next to the subway and don't buy a car and she went on about how she

00:15:18.500 cycles to work and cycles to meetings and uh but ironically corey the next day chauffeur receipts

00:15:26.820 started to appear uh from her limo rides in said toronto and it wasn't just one or two it was a

00:15:35.060 the chauffeur was billed for for for numerous days most of the days in the month actually i think

00:15:41.300 And it just, it showed the utter lack of, you know, I don't know what the word is.

00:15:49.900 Nigel, help me out here.

00:15:50.740 Well, hypocrisy.

00:15:51.980 Hypocrisy.

00:15:52.640 That brings the mind.

00:15:54.300 The hypocrisy of looking down your nose and then your weird Chrystia Freeland voice saying,

00:15:59.740 well, I don't have a car, you know.

00:16:02.860 I live like 300.

00:16:05.020 Yeah, like, like, like she's talking like a valley girl.

00:16:08.520 A senior finance minister of politics and using the word like a teenager.

00:16:12.960 And I don't think anybody's begrudging Chrystia Freeland.

00:16:16.080 She's the deputy prime minister and the finance minister of a G7 country.

00:16:20.240 She probably has every right to a limousine wherever she wants to go. 1.00

00:16:23.720 But don't be condescending to people and say, I don't drive a car.

00:16:29.940 I take the subway.

00:16:31.080 I ride my bike.

00:16:31.780 I mean, come on.

00:16:32.660 And Canadians saw through it immediately.

00:16:34.400 Yeah.

00:16:35.800 Yeah.

00:16:36.360 Yeah. You're exactly right, Dave. I mean, you cannot have a finance minister with her briefcase full of secret documents going on the bus or on the subway. Even in a cab, I have my doubts, although she says she takes a cab to the airport.

00:16:58.360 There is a lot of mean-spirited comment by people who had a similar outburst over the

00:17:06.820 Governor General.

00:17:08.860 You know, I don't like it, but I recognize that the Governor General often doesn't have

00:17:12.960 a lot of choices in where she stays or who supplies the limousine or what it costs. 1.00

00:17:19.520 I recognize that in the same way, the Deputy Prime Minister, Finance Minister Krestia Freeland

00:17:26.720 is not only merits an official car when she needs one, but actually should take one for 1.00

00:17:40.000 all kinds of reasons not limited to security.

00:17:44.780 But don't try to tell us that she is doing some noble thing and that she doesn't even

00:17:51.580 own a car.

00:17:52.680 If you can call up the pool and say, send me an Escalade, you don't need a car, do you?

00:18:00.800 No, and I mean, even Mary Simon didn't at least, you know, say that she takes the bus 0.52

00:18:07.420 or the test cab.

00:18:08.400 I mean, part of the problem, too, is it sounds like she was feeding SPS, or she's just that

00:18:12.020 disconnected, you know, Christy Antoinette, as Dave sort of said, well, just buy a house

00:18:17.840 nearest station in an urban area and you can just you know get rid of your disney channel and you're

00:18:22.960 fine for heaven's sake yeah no no she i actually don't think she is disconnected i think she's

00:18:30.080 perfectly aware of her situation uh but i also think she's she can uh she thinks she can tell

00:18:39.200 the narrative her way i mean this is all about supporting the green agenda oh no i'm i'm pure

00:18:44.000 I ride my bike to work. Well, okay, maybe once or twice a month you do. If you did it once or twice a week, good for you. I think you're taking a chance if you've got a box of cabinet documents on the back, on the pillion, but never mind.

00:18:59.920 And there is history of cabinet ministers leaving documents behind, right?

00:19:04.560 There was a Maxine Bernier, if I remember.

00:19:08.640 And British politicians are always getting caught, you know, losing stuff on the tube.

00:19:13.260 So you really don't want Canadian politicians who have to carry top secret documents.

00:19:19.060 You don't want them on the subway.

00:19:20.580 It's just the lies and this is honestly a bit wrong.

00:19:22.520 Oh, it is.

00:19:23.100 Absolutely.

00:19:23.780 You see it everywhere.

00:19:24.880 And here's another one.

00:19:26.020 Well, that's the politics, as we know.

00:19:27.580 I mean, people keep bringing up the old orange juice thing.

00:19:29.800 it's not really necessarily the cost, but how it's resonating with people and something the

00:19:34.000 Liberals don't seem to quite have grasped yet, I think. With the recent polling we talked about

00:19:38.400 last week, they're dropping quite heavily and they are losing among women and young people who

00:19:44.160 that poll also identified by far the biggest concern for everybody in Canada, like the number

00:19:51.340 one listed, is the cost of living. The environment is way down at like sixth place, about 30%. We're

00:19:57.860 talking 70 some percent of people look at the cost of living. So these people aren't comforted

00:20:03.020 when they hear her say, oh, well, I ride my bike to save the environment. They're worried about

00:20:07.360 paying the rent. They're worried about affording a car. These people have been in power for 10

00:20:13.020 years. It's not as though they're a new government just learning, right? Chrystia Freeland's been

00:20:18.680 deputy prime minister and finance minister for ages now. She's not a rookie politician,

00:20:24.740 So we can't say she should know better.

00:20:28.240 So it was just dumb.

00:20:29.800 It was dumb.

00:20:31.140 Even less appetite for that sort of behavior.

00:20:33.540 You know, when the economy is really good and everything's booming,

00:20:35.300 people might be able to overlook a little more excesses going on.

00:20:39.120 But, you know, you've got to watch your timing.

00:20:40.940 And right now is not a time when people are willing to accept a lot of these things.

00:20:44.700 This is ever so slightly off topic.

00:20:47.360 But it is very interesting to look back at the cabinet shuffle, which she survived intact, and realize that the problem as the prime minister sees it, think about what he said.

00:21:02.780 He said, people who can better articulate our vision going forward.

00:21:07.920 He doesn't say, no, actually, some of our policies really don't work out the way we intended.

00:21:13.120 We need a new team to do things differently and hopefully do it better.

00:21:17.360 I didn't say that. As far as he's concerned, policies are great. It's all how they're messaged.

00:21:22.380 So this is the team that is going to communicate our government strategies and policies as we run up to the next election.

00:21:30.640 Oh, so it's not the policies, it's just the messaging.

00:21:34.020 And this, I think, is one, to bring it back to Chrystia Freeland, this is precisely the problem.

00:21:40.440 It is one of messaging.

00:21:42.800 Yeah, it wasn't a good messaging out of this.

00:21:44.860 And again, she is a veteran politician, cabinet minister, and she is one of the brighter ones, I would concede, in Trudeau's cabinet, actually.

00:21:52.800 She typically not wanted to stick her foot in her mouth, you know, too, too much. 0.87

00:21:56.420 But this one didn't do herself any favors this week. 0.95

00:21:59.360 No.

00:22:01.440 All right, something a little more of a darker and serious note, the trucking company.

00:22:07.100 Yeah, it was ordered to reinstate a drunk driver.

00:22:10.060 You know, we've had some of the worst tragedies from trucking truckers and, you know, I mean, they're large units.

00:22:16.060 They're moving fast. A lot of people can be harmed.

00:22:18.880 Last place you'd want to see a drunk, but apparently you have the right to be a drunken alcoholic truck driver.

00:22:24.640 According to a Quebec tribunal, you do.

00:22:27.900 This was a woman driving a semi, admitted she'd had nine beers before she got into an accident. 0.95

00:22:36.040 But the adjudicator said, well, the company didn't take into consideration the fact that she was an alcoholic and she should have got help for that.

00:22:47.060 And it was up to the company to find her basically a desk job, you know, and she was ordered to be to be reinstated.

00:22:55.200 uh this goes back to what you talked about today on your show cory about personal responsibility

00:23:01.280 and and dealing with dealing with crime and how little there seems to be and how and it seems to

00:23:07.600 be our our legal system is now agreeing with it and letting this drunk truck driving uh drunk truck 0.99

00:23:15.280 driver off uh you know ordering her to get her job back hey nigel you were driving trucks on 1.00

00:23:21.760 your model ford t on the old alaska highway weren't you you wouldn't be driving uh

00:23:26.880 hard to believe but it's 50 years ago now 50 years driving for short tomkins a sailor on the muskeg

00:23:33.520 seas but um you know obviously alcohol was a problem in those days as well but it was not

00:23:40.720 tolerated if it came to light it was dealt with and you were off the job simple as that

00:23:46.720 it's just too much of a risk not merely to the person who's driving drunk but

00:23:54.880 everybody else around you I mean the work we were on was putting up taking

00:23:59.380 down drilling rigs that's actually dangerous stuff one false move not to

00:24:06.040 mention the fact that later you've got a whole thing a couple of hundred miles

00:24:09.160 somewhere else and in this particular case that we're talking about she was

00:24:14.400 driving on a highway in pennsylvania imagine what had happened what imagine the story

00:24:23.280 if she had had a you know a k-car full of uh you know the family of seven or something like that

00:24:30.560 and they're all dead and she's she's hauled poured out of out of the out of the cap

00:24:36.720 it is absolute insanity to say that that she should not have been fired and that they have

00:24:47.440 to make her a job now it is legal same thing would happen in alberta if we if one of us is uh you 1.00

00:24:57.820 know is an alcoholic and we we register as such then it's up to the owner of the company and he's

00:25:05.960 going to love this but uh it's up to the owner of the company to help you get treatment and keep

00:25:12.260 you going and so forth and so that's the way the law has developed but it's what it really tells

00:25:17.880 you is just how asinine the law has become and our society has become where nobody is held

00:25:25.880 accountable for what they do sometimes for what they think but never for what they do

00:25:31.380 and it's a dangerous

00:25:34.060 dangerous precedent

00:25:35.320 I mean alcoholism

00:25:36.580 I'm very familiar with it

00:25:38.740 and it doesn't absolve

00:25:41.420 an individual of responsibility

00:25:43.400 if there's any area

00:25:45.240 I mean the company would have been

00:25:47.480 irresponsible to keep her on

00:25:49.160 a justifiable dismissal

00:25:51.960 she was not just doing something dangerous

00:25:53.900 she was doing something outright illegal 0.66

00:25:55.960 while on company time

00:25:57.400 if she'd been robbing banks on company time

00:25:59.740 they could have fired her 1.00

00:26:00.840 I just, you know, there's this excuse with it. I mean, it's certainly something that I'm sympathetic. It's difficult to deal with. The person needs treatment. The person needs a lot of hopefully family support to get through alcoholism. But that's not the company's problem. And it shouldn't be.

00:26:18.980 And you've been open, right? It's personal responsibility, right? You took responsibility

00:26:25.460 when you talked about it, when you decided you were an alcoholic, you took responsibility and

00:26:30.600 you stopped and you haven't drank since. Or I accepted I was an alcoholic. It took a number

00:26:35.740 of false starts and it takes some time. And thankfully I hadn't done something as foolish

00:26:40.940 as drinking in the field and put somebody at risk and hurt themselves. I was just getting

00:26:45.080 myself wasted at night, but it still wasn't good. I wasn't performing a hundred percent actually

00:26:49.960 during the day. A hangover is still actually quite, you're not performing well, but I get

00:26:55.740 frustrated with these sorts of things where it basically, again, is just putting it on the lap

00:27:00.960 of the employer. I mean, put it on her to dry out, prove yourself dry, reapply to that company or

00:27:08.700 find another one. I mean, I don't believe she'd have a life sentence because she was irresponsible, 1.00

00:27:12.560 but to force the employer to take on somebody who's done that is just not.

00:27:17.840 You know, the ironies of it are that if things had gone differently and she had killed somebody,

00:27:24.740 this is a good case for Mothers Against Drunk Driving and the other advocacy organizations

00:27:29.300 to say we need to crack down on it.

00:27:31.480 Well, all right, let's say I agree with you.

00:27:33.800 You need to crack down on it.

00:27:36.180 This is cracking down.

00:27:37.560 Give her a job back. 1.00

00:27:38.460 you know say well we'll keep you in the office so you can still keep drinking but you won't kill

00:27:44.280 anybody while you're at it uh you know until she she defecates her own liver out and drops i mean 0.98

00:27:49.800 this is a you know this is a person who should be encouraged into dealing with the problem not

00:27:54.700 facilitated but i guess back to that enablement attitude we've got with with addicts in general

00:27:59.720 i mean it's an alcohol's an addiction and guys you gotta stop it when you're addicted there's

00:28:04.800 halfway. No, and what the tribunal's decision did was just to enable or can you continue doing what

00:28:10.680 you did? I don't know what it's going to take to turn around or if it will. As Nigel said,

00:28:16.760 that's the way the laws are. It frustrated me as a bar owner. I mean, you get that drilled into you

00:28:21.360 as well. If a person is over served, I'm on the hook as a bar owner. My staff might be on the

00:28:28.760 hook as a bar owner if they go out and hurt themselves. Now, if I'd seen them, they don't

00:28:33.960 allow any room for judgment, though. If I'd have seen them stumbling with their face against the

00:28:37.140 table and I allowed them three more shots of tequila, yes, I'm being irresponsible. If they

00:28:41.240 got six shots of tequila before they even came to my bar, I have no idea. And we've seen court

00:28:46.000 cases where that's happened. People traveled, go bar hopping, and ended up suing every bar they'd

00:28:50.500 went to because they went and got into a drunken accident and hurt themselves. Do we need a justice

00:28:56.160 reform to stop this? Like, how do we take this? How do you teach personal responsibility? You

00:29:03.560 You know, that's the question, you know.

00:29:05.040 Hey, maybe there's something wrong with me because I went to four bars and three shots

00:29:08.940 of keel in each one and then drove and killed somebody.

00:29:11.580 Where do I learn that personal responsibility?

00:29:14.320 Is it a parental role?

00:29:16.580 School role?

00:29:18.480 Well, actually, since you mentioned school, I do think that's where you start, that and

00:29:23.500 in the home, teaching responsibility.

00:29:25.900 But there is so little support for it in the system that we work in, the legal system,

00:29:33.200 the work system, every excuse is given, and then when something dreadful happens,

00:29:40.540 they just say, oh, well, that shouldn't be allowed.

00:29:43.100 Well, right, it shouldn't.

00:29:44.820 Maybe we start earlier.

00:29:47.320 Well, they're cracking down on the responsible.

00:29:49.220 That frustrates me.

00:29:50.620 It's bad enough.

00:29:51.240 See, if somebody, you know, that case, I wish I'd have thought of this in advance,

00:29:54.060 I'd have pulled it up, because there was a bad one.

00:29:55.820 A woman had gone, place, place, place, place, place. 1.00

00:29:57.520 It sued them all, and, you know, just a double punishment.

00:30:02.440 the bar did nothing wrong. There was another case in Ontario I saw with an idiot who got drunk. He

00:30:09.080 was drinking with co-workers after bar closing and they went to a park, drank some more, went to

00:30:14.360 another bar somewhere, drank some more, and then he tried diving into some water and it turned out

00:30:19.720 it was only a foot or two deep and had a concrete bottom. You remember he broke his neck and he was

00:30:23.560 a paraplegic. He sued his co-workers. He sued every bar he'd been to. He'd sued the city for

00:30:28.360 for not putting signs out to warn him that the water was shallow.

00:30:31.860 Now, having an irresponsible fool suing everybody around him, that doesn't shock me.

00:30:35.820 What shocks me is the judge let him win every single bit of it.

00:30:39.460 He bankrupted his co-workers, he shut down the bars, and he hit the city for a bunch of money.

00:30:43.920 Like, this is ludicrous, and this was some years ago.

00:30:47.440 Yeah.

00:30:48.340 Yeah, look, I think we've all, I'm pretty sure we've all got every sympathy for somebody who finds themselves addicted.

00:30:55.500 I don't think anybody sets out with the idea that I am going to make myself into an addict

00:31:02.360 so that I can do whatever I like and not be held accountable.

00:31:06.520 So whatever it was that drove this woman to drink, so be it. 0.54

00:31:14.640 But, you know, it wasn't even a bar involved.

00:31:17.700 She loaded up with two six-packs before she stuffed it in gear and headed off down the highway.

00:31:22.980 that's a pretty intentional act and it wasn't until a week after the accident that she fessed

00:31:32.220 up and said well yeah I guess probably I am this is what the story says anyway that maybe I maybe

00:31:36.980 I'm an alcoholic after all well loading up a 12 12 beer heading out down the highway with it

00:31:46.080 drink nine of them before you hit something yeah there's there were clues there yeah and you can't

00:31:52.300 pretend that there weren't already policies, or I didn't know the company didn't make it clear to

00:31:56.560 me that I'm not supposed to drink and drive. I mean, nobody with a driver's license in Canada

00:32:01.180 is unaware that you are not to be driving whilst drunk. Right. So admit you're an alcoholic,

00:32:08.720 get the treatment you need, and as you said, go apply again, right? Something else that might be

00:32:13.780 frustrating, maybe she's not an alcoholic and she just went on a one-time bender, but she used that 1.00

00:32:18.860 is an excuse because again more sympathy when it comes to trying to get your job but it's just

00:32:24.780 again we're indulging the irresponsible where will it end all right well let's turn the page a little

00:32:33.760 and get on to some federal provincial fighting always a favorite subject of mine anyways and

00:32:39.680 it's really been ripping things up quite a bit it looks like with the big housing initiative

00:32:45.540 We're having housing affordability problems.

00:32:47.540 The federal government is putting out big transfers and big programs to try and keep everybody housed affordably.

00:32:53.860 But Alberta got a little shortchanged. 0.97

00:32:56.320 Alberta screwed by the feds. 0.98

00:32:57.900 Who would have thunk it?

00:32:59.260 Who would have thunk it?

00:33:00.360 This time it's with housing.

00:33:03.100 It's cost problems in tens of millions of dollars in transfer payments.

00:33:07.660 And Minister Nixon pointed it out today at a press conference in Calgary on Tuesday.

00:33:14.260 I think, what did you say, Corey? Calgary's got, or Alberta's got 12% of the country's population

00:33:20.420 and only got 2% of the grants, shortchanging, and it was more than $100 million to build

00:33:27.080 affordable housing. And there's, you know, affordable housing is an absolutely crucial

00:33:31.140 issue at the moment. And Alberta's getting screwed by the feds once again. I know your eyes lit up 0.99

00:33:40.080 you could probably sell some more books but it's uh it's you know how how often does it have how

00:33:46.080 often does it have to happen you know it's a it's a repeated pattern and it's happened again with

00:33:51.120 housing this time i mean you can see the government it's a it's a handy tool to buy political favor

00:33:57.760 in regions where they gain more benefit from support than others and you know to be honest

00:34:03.840 they've got little to gain or lose in alberta so they i don't think they really care if the

00:34:08.000 short changes i would say no i you know one of the irritating things in the last week has been

00:34:14.640 watching mr trudeau say well housing that's not really a federal responsibility strictly speaking

00:34:21.840 looking at it from a college politics 101 student textbook example yeah well it isn't a federal

00:34:31.360 responsibility but what he chooses to ignore and of which he's perfectly well aware is that

00:34:38.000 It is the policies, the financial policies, that the federal government has followed that has put us in this situation.

00:34:47.900 If you borrow hundreds of millions of dollars and increase the national debt, cause inflation, drive up interest rates, guess what?

00:35:01.540 You have just made it more difficult for people to buy houses.

00:35:06.160 So it's a knock-on effect.

00:35:08.000 of what they have already been doing.

00:35:10.960 If you also, at the same time, hugely inflate the supply

00:35:15.580 by ramping up the number of immigrants,

00:35:18.700 let me say, for those who are watching our words

00:35:21.860 to see whether we're saying something,

00:35:24.080 not anti-immigrant.

00:35:26.060 I am an immigrant.

00:35:28.060 However, if you ramp up the demand on a limited supply,

00:35:33.920 you will drive up prices.

00:35:35.700 And if you do drive up those prices with your increased immigration and with your stupid financial policies, then all of a sudden, if somebody can't buy a house in Toronto, can't find a house that they can afford in Vancouver, can't find something that they could at least get started with in Calgary, yeah, it's a federal problem.

00:36:01.220 And it's yours, sir.

00:36:03.140 And just look at the streets of Toronto today.

00:36:06.720 Refugees coming to this country for a better life, being forced to live on the street in 10 cities because they have nowhere to go.

00:36:14.920 They can't afford, there's no affordable housing for them because it's not being built.

00:36:20.860 And that is in the lap of the, you know, the feds.

00:36:25.180 And you're 100% right.

00:36:26.840 And it's only going to get worse, right?

00:36:28.880 Because you've got this half a million refugees coming, and I'm a migrant too, right?

00:36:33.700 So where are you going to put them?

00:36:35.480 Where did this guy come from?

00:36:36.920 I sprouted out of the ground out here in Alberta, so I didn't come from very far.

00:36:40.620 But where are you going to put them all, right?

00:36:41.700 Where are they going to live?

00:36:42.580 You realize you're a minority.

00:36:44.540 I can live with that.

00:36:47.980 White men are a minority now.

00:36:50.040 But, yeah, it's just logistics.

00:36:53.000 It's not pro or anti-immigration when it gets to this point.

00:36:55.980 You bring people in, they need a home.

00:36:57.800 This is a winter country.

00:36:58.880 this could become a very big crisis very soon. But not only is the cause, as you pointed out,

00:37:04.800 there's some responsibility because bad federal policy has raised our cost of living,

00:37:09.200 but he's assumed responsibility when, I mean, how can you say in one hand, okay,

00:37:12.720 it's not my responsibility for this. I'm going to create a program with hundreds of millions

00:37:16.960 of tax dollars and disperse it. Well, now you've assumed some responsibility then,

00:37:21.440 and that responsibility should have been dispersing it based on population or even

00:37:26.080 in where's the areas with bigger growth where we got the bigger problems and guess what alberta if

00:37:31.040 anything should possibly even have more than what our population represents rather than less

00:37:35.840 so yeah that that dodge saying he's not responsible sorry you jumped into it mr prime minister

00:37:42.240 well i guess he had other things on his mind but it's um yeah i you know i kind of read that

00:37:51.600 first glory and it almost went over the top of me because i thought well what else would you expect

00:37:58.080 but you're right and nixon is right this is actually wrong this is exactly how you

00:38:07.840 deepen the divisions within a country and when you're elected you govern for the entire country

00:38:15.200 I remember when Harper got elected in 2006, that was the theme of his election night acceptance speech, when he just told everybody, look, this is not a matter of the conservatives winning.

00:38:30.740 We are here to govern for everybody, whether they are liberal, conservative, or NDP.

00:38:37.520 Remember that very clearly.

00:38:38.780 And then, you fast forward to 2023, is not this federal government here to govern on behalf of all Canadians?

00:38:51.020 In which case, if you think that putting money into housing is a good idea, then you prorate it evenly around the country.

00:38:59.180 Well, and as you put it out, you know, to people like me who have been long advocating

00:39:03.300 increased Western independence, if not fallout independence, and even flogging books to say as

00:39:09.140 much, this makes my case easier. This makes it easier for me to bang that drum. This isn't

00:39:13.740 equalization even, you know, people always focus on equalization, and they forget. There's a lot

00:39:18.320 of other areas where we get shorted, actually, in the West, and particularly in Alberta. This is,

00:39:23.840 They love using the transfer program as a way to preferentially fund some parts of the country and not others.

00:39:30.280 It's just that equalization is the most blatant of it.

00:39:32.720 But when we see these sorts of things exposed, hopefully some people start asking, well, what are some of those other transfers?

00:39:36.900 Are we getting the same shake with the health transfers or the road infrastructure transfers?

00:39:41.160 There's more and more ammunition for Premier Smith and the eventual use of the Sovereignty Act, I guess, on something.

00:39:48.420 Well, creating some odd alliances.

00:39:50.320 I mean, did you really think you'd see Jason Nixon and Mayor Sohi and Mayor Gondek all hand in hand on the same cause at any point short of a large natural disaster?

00:40:01.500 They've unified some pretty disparate political personalities.

00:40:05.880 Politics made strange bedfellows, that's for sure.

00:40:09.120 One thing's for sure, Corey, anybody who has a house, has a home that they can afford, they need to be grateful.

00:40:17.860 It is a, you always used to think, all these years, that buying a house was just what you did, and all of a sudden, it's starting to look like, thanks to this government, this federal government, it's starting to look like a privilege.

00:40:38.300 That is wrong.

00:40:39.480 It is.

00:40:39.840 So speaking of distractions, you know, I will kind of round it out.

00:40:44.340 I mean, we sort of alluded to it.

00:40:45.720 We don't want to get too deep into it, but I think it's worth addressing.

00:40:48.400 We should talk about it.

00:40:49.680 It's an issue that's going to dominate some news and it's going to distract from from other things.

00:40:54.180 But it was announced just recently that the prime minister and his wife will now be separating.

00:40:59.440 And, you know, something I said on my show and I said on social media, too, as much as I'm a harsh, nasty guy on social media and things like that.

00:41:06.520 it's still a family they're still human we can forget it at times it's it's tough and particularly

00:41:12.440 on their kids that that i really feel for you know i mean when you're going through a family

00:41:17.920 breakup like that it's hard on a person uh as as a kid even but you know when my parents went

00:41:23.800 through it it was something but at least it wasn't broadcast through the tv and the newspapers and

00:41:26.840 there was some such thing as social media uh i guess you know just a lot of people happy to

00:41:32.120 dance on justin trudeau's the grave of his relationship at the same time people should

00:41:35.160 temper it with a little yeah absolutely as you say this is a family there you know a lot of people

00:41:41.300 have been through it i certainly have and it leaves the emotional scars and kids can be cruel

00:41:46.640 cory let's not forget kids can be cruel and when the trudeau kids go back to school in september

00:41:52.220 they're going to face a ton of trouble so yeah remember the kids yeah indeed yeah and in the

00:41:59.100 general confession i'm i too i'm a divorced man there's very little that i can say um that i would

00:42:08.540 you know i can't condemn the man there are it is one of the disappointing things that looking at

00:42:15.180 some of the comments on the that we get um a lot of people uh how do i put it without offending

00:42:26.580 our readership sometimes you know what what happens in a person's family really nobody anybody

00:42:34.740 anybody else's business there is nothing here to take pleasure from we will criticize mr trudeau

00:42:41.260 for his policies we will criticize him for the many hypocrisies that he has demonstrated in his

00:42:49.420 public life and the private life that came before it but on the matter of his marriage i just wish

00:42:54.840 him and Sophie and the kids.

00:42:57.160 I wish them well.

00:42:58.560 And the parallel was sort of drawn, though.

00:43:00.820 I mean, just of note, the last time a sitting 0.99

00:43:02.920 prime minister actually experienced a divorce

00:43:04.700 while in office was Pierre Trudeau,

00:43:07.860 Prime Minister Justin

00:43:08.980 Trudeau's father, of course, back

00:43:10.780 in 77. But his,

00:43:13.540 I believe it was the

00:43:14.740 walk in the snow that same year? Yes.

00:43:17.240 Later that year,

00:43:18.900 78, I think the divorce was finalized

00:43:21.000 and the walk in the snow was

00:43:22.920 later that year. A kid at the same time,

00:43:24.840 I mean, we could still be dignified and not dig into the reasoning and such.

00:43:27.880 But we could also discuss it does impact the mindset and possibly the choices of a prime minister.

00:43:35.640 I mean, that could have been part of what influenced Pierre Trudeau when he made his mind up.

00:43:39.980 And Justin Trudeau is having a tough time in government right now with this stacked on top of it.

00:43:45.140 It may influence his career choices in the next few months.

00:43:49.920 It could go either way.

00:43:50.980 It could go either way, I think.

00:43:51.960 It could say, okay, now I'm going to focus on this instead of that, and focus on battling Polyev, or, yeah, you're right, he could just do what his dad did and say, that's enough for me, and I'm out of here.

00:44:06.180 It's just a factor that's happening.

00:44:08.380 Again, we can't ignore that it's happening, but at the same time, you know, it's speculating on the causes of the personal affairs or such, it's really not.

00:44:15.800 I just think we have a bit restrained about how we talk about it.

00:44:20.440 When you have something of that magnitude on your mind,

00:44:27.440 it's got to affect your on-the-job performance.

00:44:30.440 If that's what you're saying, I would agree with you.

00:44:32.440 Or even he might, as Dave said,

00:44:34.440 it might improve his performance.

00:44:35.440 He might focus different people who react differently in stress,

00:44:37.440 but I'd say it might affect some of his personal decisions,

00:44:41.440 perhaps, and how long he's going to stay as a prime minister

00:44:43.440 or possibly move along and see about different good choices.

00:44:48.440 But, well, we will watch and see.

00:44:51.460 There's lots to watch, policy-wise, and we'll spend plenty of time dissecting

00:44:54.880 and critiquing his choices when it comes to the governing of our country anyways,

00:45:00.220 the governing of his household's up to him.

00:45:03.000 100%, yes, well put.

00:45:05.520 All right, well, Dave, Nigel, thank you very much for helping me through this.

00:45:13.240 Another episode of the pipeline.

00:45:14.540 I think I'm four out of five of the last ones, Mr. Gilder.

00:45:17.640 don't worry winter's coming he'll come back there's a lot of talk about taking you on study

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The Pipeline： King's Bench rejects Hinshaw's public health orders

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