Western Standard - The Pipeline： Liberals⧸RCMP play gun politics with NS mass murder

00:00:00.000 Oh, I love that intro. Gets you going. I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western

00:00:23.800 Standard. Today is June 22nd, 2022. We have a great show today, but as usual, I'm joined by

00:00:32.180 Western Standard News Editor Dave Naylor. Dave, you managed to get your tie on?

00:00:37.460 The tie was no problem. The mic was a little bit iffy, but I think we're good to go.

00:00:41.060 I know you're new to media, and I'm showing you all the ropes around here. You'll get used to it.

00:00:45.940 Appreciate it.

00:00:47.520 And also joined by Western Standard Opinion and Broadcast Editor Corey Morgan, who always

00:00:53.320 struggles with this tie. Yes, and

00:00:55.340 it's just not going to stop at this point. If I

00:00:57.300 haven't gotten it by this age,

00:00:59.620 we'll just make it. He refuses to get good ties.

00:01:01.420 I even gave him a tie budget, and he refuses

00:01:03.180 to use it.

00:01:05.100 I don't get a tie budget. Yeah, it's because you had good

00:01:07.320 ties. Oh, okay. He didn't.

00:01:09.860 And he just doesn't

00:01:11.320 even use it. I shouldn't have mentioned that. Now everyone's

00:01:13.400 crap, all the employees are going to hear that, but there was 0.99

00:01:15.300 a tie budget offered. I was joking. 0.99

00:01:17.160 That was a lie. I didn't mean any of it.

00:01:19.460 All right. Well, we've got a couple of

00:01:21.260 great topics today. Danielle Smith,

00:01:23.040 UCP leadership candidate pitching the Alberta Sovereignty Act. This is a very, very interesting,

00:01:31.360 the minimum and interesting piece of legislation that she's proposing in her campaign to become

00:01:36.660 UCP leader and premier of Alberta. We're going to talk about what that means because, boy, if

00:01:42.720 something like that became law, it's going to mean big things, not just here in Alberta. It's going

00:01:46.500 have massive national consequences. Speaking of the UCP, the United Conservative Party has cleared

00:01:53.900 federal Conservative MP Michelle Rempel-Garner to seek the leadership of the United Conservative

00:02:00.680 Party, clearing a major hurdle. I think we're going to see her in the race. We're going to

00:02:03.860 talk about what happened there. And well, just another day in the life of the federal government,

00:02:11.300 The Liberals and RCMP have been exposed playing very, very nasty gun politics using the massacre, one of the biggest mass murders, if not the biggest mass murder in Canadian history from Nova Scotia.

00:02:27.820 you recall just a few years ago, new information has come to light showing the Liberals and RCMP

00:02:33.720 in deep cahoots to exploit that strategy for political ends in order to build political

00:02:39.740 support for banning what the Liberals call assault-style military weapons. These words

00:02:47.280 don't even matter to them. And excellent news, the Western Standards Conservative Leadership

00:02:54.340 debate is officially on June 8th. We're going to talk about that, what we expect when the

00:03:01.020 Conservative Party of Canada leadership candidates come to Cowtown to Duke it out here, because we're

00:03:05.840 going to be talking about Western issues. Before we get in, though, we've got to thank one of my

00:03:12.260 all-time favorite sponsors, the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. We're going to get into a bit,

00:03:18.320 but as I just mentioned off the top, politicians and even the police, the federal police,

00:03:24.200 the RCMP in Canada, are willing to exploit things as tragic as the biggest mass murder in Canadian

00:03:32.260 history for their political ends. Now we've got the proof of it. We have no denial from the RCMP.

00:03:38.360 These people are willing to do disgusting things to further their political end of taking away the

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00:04:27.580 uh a little further down in the show but uh firearms these people are willing to do anything

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00:04:46.780 Okay. Well, let's jump right into it. Danielle Smith pitches the Alberta Sovereignty Act. Dave,

00:04:53.100 what is the Alberta Sovereignty Act? Basically, she promises if she becomes premier, she will

00:04:58.140 introduce such an act that will basically disregard everything that Ottawa does that could hurt

00:05:05.340 Alberta. Basically going up to the, I think you said it this morning, the line of separation and

00:05:13.260 spitting over it uh very very strong statement uh certainly the strongest out of any candidate

00:05:20.940 we've seen so far and she followed it up uh today with a vow uh no more lockdowns if she becomes

00:05:27.500 premier she will not lock down anything if there's another pandemic churches will still go schools

00:05:33.340 will open and life will be as normal uh so two very interesting uh proposals out of daniel

00:05:39.980 in the first week, I think are certainly making her stand out from her rivals.

00:05:47.480 Brian Jean announced some sort of program on lowering electrical costs,

00:05:52.420 but it was kind of short on detail.

00:05:54.600 This Sovereignty Act is huge.

00:05:57.200 If it's brought in, it'll change the face of politics in Canada.

00:06:02.680 It's that big.

00:06:04.160 So we're going to have to dive into this because there's not a lot of parallels.

00:06:08.940 Well, Quebec has done things like this, but they never put it in law.

00:06:13.600 Quebec has disregarded federal law many, many times before, but it's Quebec.

00:06:18.620 They get a pass on it all the time, so they haven't really felt the need to enshrine this in legislation.

00:06:25.580 But, Corey, let's try to flesh out what this act really means.

00:06:32.160 So Alberta is going to disregard federal laws.

00:06:36.920 What does that look like practically?

00:06:38.240 Well, I mean, it's taking an offense rather than a defense for a change, actually.

00:06:42.420 It's spoiling for a scrap and saying we're coming in

00:06:44.300 and we're just going to state where we're standing

00:06:46.060 instead of reacting when you do something because we know you're going to.

00:06:49.220 Yeah, well, let's get to the politics after,

00:06:52.100 but I want to talk about what is the practical effect of this?

00:06:54.360 What does this mean?

00:06:55.280 For example, if they want to come and seize our firearms.

00:06:58.140 Well, this is much more justified saying, you know what?

00:06:59.920 We're ending the RCMP contract right now.

00:07:02.720 We will not enforce your Firearms Act.

00:07:05.000 That's your problem.

00:07:05.880 What are you going to do about it?

00:07:06.920 Or if it's a healthcare issue where there's disputes, same sort of thing.

00:07:10.220 Well, what are you going to do about it?

00:07:11.220 I would almost call it the, what are you going to do about it law?

00:07:13.240 Like we aren't going to cooperate.

00:07:14.860 We aren't going to help you with this.

00:07:16.200 We aren't going to help you lock down here.

00:07:17.620 If you bring in health restrictions, what are you going to do about it?

00:07:20.300 That's the big question that hangs with that law.

00:07:22.700 It's, as you said, it's spitting over that line and leaves it to them.

00:07:26.080 And you know what, as you said, Quebec never needed to do that act

00:07:28.900 because they just do it.

00:07:30.360 And basically say that to the government, what are you going to do about it?

00:07:33.300 The government always says, well, we'll talk a lot.

00:07:35.300 We won't do anything about it.

00:07:36.160 So we're trying that gambit here, or she would, or says she would.

00:07:40.860 So essentially, it's just more or less the province refusing to enforce federal law.

00:07:47.340 I'm a bit more confused about how this would go in terms of effectively having different law, actively doing something.

00:07:53.760 I'm not sure, you know, we can't bring in stuff.

00:07:56.540 We can't add things to the criminal code, for example, because the criminal code is federal that Ottawa doesn't have, but we can essentially subtract from it.

00:08:04.080 So the way I read it as a very practical example is on firearms. That's very obviously relevant right now. The provincial government could just say section X, Y, and Z of the Firearms Act are violations of the rights of Albertans. We're just not enforcing it. And that means an Alberta provincial police force doesn't arrest people for it. Crown prosecutors don't prosecute for it. Effectively nullifying federal powers there.

00:08:27.460 And I think that the what are you going to do about it part, I think really the only way I can see practically that if Alberta just refused to do what Ottawa says on these fronts, what option do they have?

00:08:44.640 What can they do?

00:08:46.640 Oh, lawyers are going to get rich. 0.95

00:08:48.260 No doubt about that.

00:08:49.160 Yeah, but you can't make the government do it without, like, how do you force?

00:08:54.060 And I'm emphasizing the word force, because the only way I can see practically is if a province just says, you know, crosses their arms and says, I'm not doing it.

00:09:05.600 The only way I can see that is, I mean, Ottawa to declare Alberta to be in a state of insurrection and send the army.

00:09:12.400 And that sounds absurd, obviously.

00:09:14.420 But, you know, I don't think she's putting in there anything that Quebec doesn't have, right?

00:09:18.980 And the government has let Quebec get away with it for, you know, time in memoriam.

00:09:24.060 So maybe that's what she's hoping, that if Alberta says, look, we're just doing the same thing as Quebec, what are you going to do about it?

00:09:31.120 The thing is, we want to do it on different issues.

00:09:33.540 Quebec likes to do things that violate the rights of the Anglophone minorities or Muslims.

00:09:37.960 Sure, and they're big on immigrants. 0.63

00:09:40.000 Yeah, they want to beat up on Muslims and Anglophones. 0.75

00:09:42.400 That's kind of the popular thing in Quebec.

00:09:43.880 Whereas here, it's more or less, we don't want to enforce federal law, which is, you know,

00:09:49.540 maybe on firearms and restrictions and all sorts of things like that.

00:09:54.060 is there, Corey, like, is there really anything Ottawa can do short of send in the army if we

00:10:00.100 refuse to enforce federal law? It could cut transfer payments, but I would see that being

00:10:04.200 the first step to Alberta saying, that's fine. We're collecting all our own taxes now. We're

00:10:07.380 not sending them out to you. So now you can come begging us. And that's something Quebec could

00:10:11.460 never really do because they're in that recipient. Yeah. So, you know, again, it's spoiling for the

00:10:16.960 fight. It forces their hand. And I, I'm, it's very interesting. The thing I showed is concerned

00:10:23.080 though on the show today and in a column i got coming is this is going to sell with the ucp

00:10:27.460 membership i can see to a good degree but i'm not sure how keen the alberta electorate's going to be

00:10:31.620 on this much of a in-your-face attitude that's what's going to see it shows you how little

00:10:37.100 jason kenny did on the file and in three years you know he talked a good game but really didn't

00:10:42.180 do anything well we saw virtually nothing from the fair like fair deal panel was weak enough in

00:10:46.940 itself but it had some great ideas but it it really stopped short of a lot of what a lot of

00:10:50.760 us were hoping for. And it still did virtually none of it, except for, and we're back to guns,

00:10:55.000 they appointed an Alberta chief firearms officer. That was it. Nothing else. It held a referendum

00:10:59.840 on equalization. And then did nothing. Yeah. Yeah. But that was the end of it. Should have

00:11:04.320 been on the plane the next day. Okay, well, let's, since you open the door, Dave, let's,

00:11:11.800 let's talk about what she said about lockdowns. And this is interesting. Obviously, there's

00:11:15.660 tremendous frustration with the kenny government uh with lockdowns and mandates and things like

00:11:21.940 that she said she'll bring in an amendment to the human rights act which would enshrine medical

00:11:26.300 choice around the stuff she said uh a line i've used before which is i'm not pro-choice for just

00:11:32.240 a single thing i'm pro-choice for everything and that's that's why i the exception of people like

00:11:37.860 cory i just generally don't call these people pro-choice anymore because they mean one choice

00:11:42.340 and no choices for anything else. So she's talking about choices around vaccines, but also

00:11:46.980 an end to lockdowns. Even I'm, I know some of our viewers are going to be angry at me for this, but

00:11:54.780 I can see a situation where we've got the next black death. The plague is here. 1.00

00:12:02.140 The kind of thing these laws were really meant to do for a pandemic with high casualty rates,

00:12:08.980 not just among seniors with multiple comorbidities, but it kills the young, it kills the children,

00:12:14.440 it kills the healthy. I can see a situation, you know, not that we've ever experienced it in this

00:12:20.440 in many generations, but I can see in that kind of situation, a break glass in case of situation

00:12:27.060 where a lockdown could theoretically be justified. I know some people are going to scream at me right

00:12:32.540 now that I'm a lockdowner. No, I'm about as anti-lockdown as you get. But there is the

00:12:35.900 theoretical situation where that, I think, could be justified. This throwing out the baby with the

00:12:44.320 bathwater, or is this just a case of, yeah, maybe it's justified sometimes, but the government abuses

00:12:49.440 the power too much. We just have to take away that government's power. Well, I think Albertan's

00:12:53.000 frustration with Jason Kenney was he kept moving the goalposts, kept changing it. You know, best

00:12:57.560 summer ever. No, we're locking down. No, best winter ever. No, we're locking down. I think what

00:13:01.620 Danielle's saying is, okay, well, no more lockdowns for COVID-like pandemics, right?

00:13:09.300 COVID, basically, severe flu-like things.

00:13:13.100 She said no lockdowns ever.

00:13:14.860 Yes, yes. 0.99

00:13:15.600 But I think it would be her prerogative if the Black Death does come back to change her mind.

00:13:21.220 Maybe it's just hypothetical.

00:13:25.280 You know, I guess we'd have to question her about it.

00:13:28.080 If they remove that government power, that means it's not there then.

00:13:31.620 True, true. But again, I think you're, you're talking hypothetical, hopefully something that never happens. You know, she has found future. No, she said never, never again. So, but I think in a case of the Black Death, she could say, well, you know what, I've changed my mind. Jason Kenney did a few times.

00:13:50.160 Then you'd have to, if she outright takes away the government's power, and I'm very open to anti-lockdown legislation. Governments clearly have abused that power over the last two and a half years. They cannot be trusted with that power. I'm just worried that if we formally remove the power, if and when that, the real one, comes, we're going to be left without an appropriate response.

00:14:13.740 Corey, do you think this, is it too far?

00:14:17.380 And I can't believe I'm saying this because I always want politicians going way further than I do.

00:14:21.420 I'm kind of with Dave with it.

00:14:22.560 You know, it's a good, solid statement and everything.

00:14:24.200 But if we really suddenly had this thing going around that had something like a 10% mortality rate,

00:14:29.020 you know, people are terrified and hospitals are truly overlaid.

00:14:31.720 All the stuff we were warned was going to happen really starts happening.

00:14:35.480 It's just like there used to be a balanced budget act.

00:14:37.580 It used to be illegal not to balance the budget.

00:14:39.040 And all the government has to do is throw out a new law, majority votes on it, and it changes.

00:14:44.840 And in that circumstance, I don't think she would have to pay a terrible price because the public would be terrified in such a dire thing.

00:14:50.700 And as a gesture, though, it still looks good because they're not going to do it for the sniffles.

00:14:54.240 They're not going to do it for something minor.

00:14:56.160 She also addressed the lack of ICU capacity.

00:14:58.560 So she was being realistic and saying this might happen.

00:15:01.500 We might get another wave.

00:15:02.500 We might have problems.

00:15:03.220 So we've got to address how we're going to deal with it without locking down.

00:15:06.940 So I think she's been pretty smart about this.

00:15:09.040 But again, she's got to be careful if she treads into that anti-lockdown, anti-vaccine type camp, which they probably have a Bernier, you know, cornered, very strong supporters, very dedicated, but very, there's a solid cap on that.

00:15:26.220 You know, then you get 10, 15% and you can't get past there.

00:15:28.780 So she's got to watch who she's courting, but it's an interesting tactic.

00:15:34.180 And I'll just mention before we move on, Brian Jean had something on this.

00:15:37.900 I think much, much softer, but said, you know, after 60 days of lockdowns, there'd have to be

00:15:44.140 a vote in the legislature. I mean, that's an improvement over now where there's just literally

00:15:47.360 the cabinet says it and the legislature has no say and that there have to be an automatic inquiry

00:15:52.480 after for this kind of thing. So, you know, more of accountability additions to it, which would be

00:15:58.220 an improvement on the current system. But I think a fair bit softer than Danielle's more

00:16:03.740 thermonuclear approach, which is

00:16:06.480 the government can't be trusted with it, take away

00:16:08.440 their powers.

00:16:09.620 That's generally where my instinct would be, is

00:16:12.260 you just can't trust them with this stuff.

00:16:14.920 Okay.

00:16:16.660 So in the UCP leadership

00:16:18.200 race, really the only big

00:16:20.140 question hanging over the field right now 1.00

00:16:22.100 is Michelle Rumpelgarner. I think 0.99

00:16:24.240 all the major candidates are in.

00:16:27.020 We had an exclusive story

00:16:28.360 from Western Standards, Rachel Emanuel

00:16:30.420 that 0.94

00:16:30.920 um well actually quite a few weeks ago that she was seeking an exemption um because she had she

00:16:38.080 was like two or three weeks short the six month you have to have your membership for six months

00:16:41.880 before then these things actually do lapse it's pretty regular to grant these kinds of exemptions

00:16:47.040 jason can't even need an exemption to run for ucp leader he's like the primary founder of the party

00:16:52.540 he needed one when i was in entering politics i needed an exemption to run for the wild rose

00:16:57.520 These things are routinely given.

00:16:59.040 You generally only don't give it unless it's more or less like that guy's crazy

00:17:02.860 and we want an excuse to keep him off the ballot.

00:17:05.000 She needed one.

00:17:05.580 And you still got in, huh?

00:17:06.680 They still let me through.

00:17:07.880 Unbelievable.

00:17:08.580 I mean, holy, it's crazy how crazy Wild Rose was back in the day that I was the not crazy guy.

00:17:13.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:16.120 Anyway, Michelle Remples needed an exemption. 1.00

00:17:18.920 There was a meeting just the other day. 0.88

00:17:20.340 We had the scoop on the story.

00:17:21.900 We did.

00:17:22.280 What happened? 0.95

00:17:23.340 Yeah, Rachel's had a couple of good scoops on it.

00:17:25.760 the election committee 0.99

00:17:27.920 or whatever they want to call themselves

00:17:29.320 offered up

00:17:31.940 you know, if any

00:17:33.660 MLAs, UCB MLAs wanted to talk about

00:17:35.840 it and want to throw in their two cents

00:17:37.980 they were welcome to. Apparently

00:17:39.640 13 out of 17 MLAs

00:17:41.800 didn't want the

00:17:43.800 exemption to be given

00:17:45.200 but at the end of the

00:17:47.920 day they did. So

00:17:49.640 she is now, Michelle Rumpelgardner

00:17:52.080 is now free to enter 0.96

00:17:53.760 the race if she wants to.

00:17:56.620 Actually, we're still the only media reporting that.

00:17:58.940 No one else has been able to confirm that for days now.

00:18:01.000 We're the only ones with it.

00:18:02.900 Hopefully we're right.

00:18:04.340 Yes.

00:18:07.080 Corey, 13 of the 17 or so MLAs who spoke were all against allowing her to run,

00:18:13.440 I think, and we published the names,

00:18:15.340 at least according to the sources that we're speaking with the standard.

00:18:18.920 And all of those MLAs have endorsed, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

00:18:23.380 And they've all endorsed either Travis Taves, former Kenny finance minister, or Rebecca Schultz, who was Kenny's child services minister, although she's not really as inner circle as Taves was.

00:18:36.700 Do you think there's any coincidence that these MLAs were saying she should not run?

00:18:41.640 Yeah, no, the establishment doesn't want more candidates coming into the mix.

00:18:47.380 Though I don't know if that's not, you know, strategically that wise a move.

00:18:50.920 I mean, if we've got a lot of alternatives diluting that vote over there, it might leave a better field for people like Paves who have a solid but perhaps hard cap on their support or Schultz if she's trying to slide up as a second choice sort of thing.

00:19:04.460 But they're fearful of Rempel or otherwise they wouldn't want to stop it.

00:19:08.000 I mean, if it was a star candidate they really wanted, you know, they'd put a thumbs up.

00:19:11.020 It's a rather arbitrary rule, I think.

00:19:13.020 Well, I think in general, you only really will oppose them if they're going to be eating your

00:19:20.080 votes and not someone else's. I think Rempel, I'm not sure if this will play out or not, but

00:19:25.100 you know, the Wild Rose wing of the party has two former Wild Rose leaders running in it. So the

00:19:31.480 Wild Rose side of the party has got a pretty crowded field right now. The more progressive

00:19:35.320 conservative side, even though Travis Tabes wasn't a progressive conservative politician,

00:19:40.420 I think he's viewed as coming a bit more from that progressive conservative tradition.

00:19:45.060 Michelle Rempel, federal conservative, I think probably she's hard to peg. 0.95

00:19:50.000 Like on some issues, she kind of seems like a wild rose. 0.82

00:19:52.140 And other issues, she very much seems like a very progressive conservative, depending on the issue, depending on the day.

00:19:59.680 But I think she's probably perceived as coming more from the progressive conservative side.

00:20:04.420 and that would be eating into Travis Tave's votes because you didn't see really any opposition from

00:20:10.640 MLAs backing Brian Jean. I'm not sure if there's any MLAs backing Danielle Smith in the caucus

00:20:14.720 right now, but there's at least Dave Hanson, maybe one or two others who are backing Brian Jean.

00:20:22.180 None of them were speaking against Danielle. You really only saw it from the Travis Tave's

00:20:27.020 Rebecca Schultz side. Dave, do you think, is that it? Just that they want to keep the

00:20:33.920 more kind of former PC side

00:20:36.000 more open to themselves?

00:20:37.060 Of course, very mercenary.

00:20:39.460 Anything that will lead away their vote,

00:20:41.140 they don't want them

00:20:41.780 anything to do with the race.

00:20:44.080 So yeah, that's,

00:20:46.040 as Corey said,

00:20:46.740 the establishment playing politics again.

00:20:51.020 Okay, well, let's talk on

00:20:52.340 what the effect of it is.

00:20:53.100 I think we've already set up

00:20:54.520 a little bit of it,

00:20:55.440 but let's take for granted now 0.99

00:20:57.420 Michelle Rampelgarner's in.

00:20:59.800 Actually, we just had news.

00:21:01.160 This wasn't from The Standard today.

00:21:02.320 I think it was

00:21:02.900 one of the wire services, maybe Canadian Press or Associated Press broke that

00:21:07.100 the chairman of the Patrick Brown campaign has quit that to come and chair Michelle's campaign.

00:21:15.180 She's totally in. She's not officially in, but she's jumped off the dock. She's underwater.

00:21:22.080 She just hasn't emerged to say, I'm in yet. But she's in. What kind of effect, Corey, do you think

00:21:30.620 Michelle is going to have? How big a contender is she going to be to actually win this? Because 0.94

00:21:36.000 it's a pretty big field. That's a tough question. It really is. I mean, she's got some profile.

00:21:41.420 She's definitely got some connections. I guess it depends. There's part of what the establishment's

00:21:46.260 worried about too. I mean, there's a lot of shared support between the federal and provincial

00:21:49.360 conservatives. She's going to be dipping into the fundraising pools of Taves and Shoals and

00:21:54.460 others as well. I mean, they're the same people often you're going to. So she's going to split

00:21:58.180 that up. It really depends on how our campaigns manage. It's so hard to speculate. I mean, 1.00

00:22:02.160 what sort of ground is she going to kind of corner? As you said, she's one of the hardest 0.99

00:22:06.060 ones to pin down. I mean, she's made some statements on Twitter that sounded like a 0.98

00:22:09.900 woke NDP-er. And on the other hand, she's talked about things like the Buffalo Declaration,

00:22:14.900 where she sounds like the most conservative of Wild Rosers. So to try and see where she's going

00:22:20.020 to land, she could very well be competitive, but we can't really speculate until we see what she's 1.00

00:22:24.120 going to do. It's an hard one. I think on name recognition alone, she gets into the top four 1.00

00:22:28.820 right now. And her political organizational ability is very good. Her writing, one of the

00:22:36.820 top Tory writings in the country in terms of organization. So if she can, you know, use that

00:22:44.080 organization to help her run provincially, she may have a chance. But just right at the start,

00:22:49.620 name recognition gets her a lot of media attention. And I think it puts her, puts her in a good place

00:22:56.020 to start. She's a contender. And she is a killer organizer. The mainstream media pays a lot more

00:23:03.940 attention, I think, than we do to the, for this kind of thing, the regional issues within Alberta

00:23:10.020 politics, Calgary, Edmonton, rural, really everything outside, so the north and the south.

00:23:16.840 And that has had an impact in the past. Ed Stelmack was seen as kind of a rural northern rebellion that kind of being on the outside of the PC party. The conservative leaders traditionally come from Calgary, though. It's been dominated by, you know, Klein, Lougheed was Calgary.

00:23:34.080 um this is not so no no but between uh getty getty was edmonton but then but other than getty

00:23:41.140 it was you know laugheed calgary klein calgary um you had uh so stalmack rural north but then back

00:23:51.540 to uh redford calgary prentice calgary and uh kenny calgary so it's very calgary dominant

00:24:01.700 um also calgary kind of being the fulcrum of the politics of the province you have

00:24:07.040 rural right uh edmonton left sorry edmonton uh and then calgary is where elections are decided

00:24:14.500 and so you know and it's where the biggest money is it's where a lot of the political power is based 0.90

00:24:19.540 cory how big a factor do you think it's going to be that she's kind of the big so there's

00:24:25.380 rebecca shoals here uh but really remple is going to be the big calgary candidate is that a

00:24:31.440 how big an advantage is that going to be like do conservative members here think yeah i want a

00:24:37.280 calgary leader or or is it or is it more it could also be well we need a calgary leader because we

00:24:43.300 need to win the calgary seats i don't think the members think that strategically really as a whole

00:24:48.020 i mean a few will but for the most part i think her advantage of being in calgary is just that

00:24:52.520 you're in a spot with good strong conservative base anyways you're you're in person where you're

00:24:56.760 It's a one member, one vote deal here.

00:24:58.580 There's no regional waiting or anything.

00:25:00.340 So a person can win by concentrating memberships in just one region rather than being forced to travel the whole area,

00:25:06.940 which doesn't pay off in the long run in the general election, but for a leadership race could work. 0.82

00:25:10.500 Ed Stelmack won like half of his votes were just like Ukrainians scattered around the rural north. 1.00

00:25:15.420 I'm not joking. 1.00

00:25:16.520 Like it was it was incredibly just signed up Ukrainians and Ukraine took over Alberta. 0.97

00:25:21.560 If you can consolidate support somewhere, you know, that's how it works. 0.87

00:25:24.880 I mean, Stelmach wasn't resonating well in downtown Calgary, but he got the numbers.

00:25:29.340 So, Rand Paul Garner, I mean, she's got a lot of competition in Calgary in dealing with that, but she's got a solid base here.

00:25:35.780 I just don't think the members think so much strategically that we need a Calgary person in versus an Edmonton person as much.

00:25:42.880 You know, we certainly have our regional loyalties, but I don't know if they think about that in a leadership race.

00:25:47.700 And I think you have to give Daniel Smith honorary citizenship in Calgary.

00:25:51.580 You know, years on the radio, you know, lived here, you know, recently moved to High River.

00:25:57.940 Well, she's been in High River for a while. 0.83

00:25:59.020 Yeah, she's been in High River for several years, but she's an honorary Calgarian.

00:26:03.400 Yeah, I think that's fair, that she largely counts as a Calgary, a big Calgary presence,

00:26:10.640 even though her bases tend to be the rural south and central.

00:26:13.900 But she's clearly a big personality here.

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00:27:33.600 Give us the skinny on the little hanky-panky.

00:27:36.640 What was the name of the Halifax newspaper?

00:27:39.640 Chronicle Examiner.

00:27:41.000 Halifax Examiner did a great job of covering the inquiry into the horrible shootings that left 22 people dead.

00:27:50.640 What has happened was RCMP Commissioner Brenda Luckey contacted the investigators,

00:27:57.640 contacted the police down there, and demanded to know what weapons were involved.

00:28:02.620 So we should get it out, get it to the government, get it to Bill Blair, then the emergency minister, get it to Justin Trudeau.

00:28:10.240 Oh, he was public safety minister.

00:28:11.260 Public safety minister.

00:28:13.660 Get it to the prime minister's office and Justin Trudeau so they could basically play politics with it and get their gun laws passed and introduced.

00:28:24.020 For me personally, if the Aga Khan vacation scandal was a five, this is a nine and a half.

00:28:29.880 This is absolutely unbelievable where you've got the nation's top police officer being politically involved, politically motivated for the PMO, for Justin Trudeau, for Bill Blair.

00:28:44.000 Yet, unbelievably, there appears to be no sign of anybody running out of resignation left.

00:28:50.680 It's wild.

00:28:51.840 So there's a bit more background.

00:28:52.860 We need to talk about this as well.

00:28:55.120 The guns used by the Nova Scotia shooter, none of them were actually the ones that were banned when the Liberals brought in this cabinet order.

00:29:05.220 Further, none of those guns were even legally bought in Canada.

00:29:08.560 They were smuggled through the main border from the United States.

00:29:11.740 They were smuggled guns.

00:29:13.240 They were different guns.

00:29:14.800 But the Liberals still demanded that this be brought out and spun in such a way as to give political impact so that the Liberals could say,

00:29:22.520 aha look all these poor dead people and we're banning the guns that did this so even that's

00:29:28.320 not true um cory is there going to be any price to pay here is this finally the one i hope so i

00:29:37.200 mean this is where the ndp and the conservatives should be demanding an independent inquiry get

00:29:41.280 to the bottom of this i mean the quotes from the police officers said she promised the prime

00:29:46.260 minister and bill blair that she was going to get this information for them she took over the

00:29:50.460 communications broke protocol. And she didn't deny it. No, she did not deny this in her statement.

00:29:55.200 And I mean, a politicized commissioner of the police isn't actually new. They're appointed

00:29:58.300 by the prime minister. They might go to ribbon cuttings with them and show a little leaning.

00:30:01.900 That's fine. But meddling with an active investigation, only hours after it happened,

00:30:08.000 this is beyond the pale. Like this is putting it at risk. And that's what some of these officers

00:30:11.400 are saying. Like they were trying to find the origin of these guns at that time. And they're

00:30:17.460 saying, we've got to keep this tight because now we have an, it was an international investigation

00:30:21.020 because they had found out there from the United States, we can't leak this stuff right now. We

00:30:24.800 can't let it out. And she wanted to, and they refused to their credit. And she got upset about

00:30:30.400 it. That's documented as well. And she was pressuring and twice it's mentioned that it

00:30:34.240 was on behalf or at least pressured by the prime minister's officer, uh, office and the safety

00:30:39.980 minister. Now this government loves throwing people under the bus. I won't be shocked to see

00:30:44.380 lucky. Should be the one to go, obviously. But I think the stronger thing we got to be looking at

00:30:49.420 is a prime minister's office that tried to interfere on an investigation. We're not talking

00:30:53.700 about a carjacking or something. We're talking about the biggest mass murder in Canadian history.

00:30:58.340 And we're not talking a year later. We're talking in the hours just after they'd shot this guy.

00:31:02.360 Like this is incredibly dangerous political play. This is messing with a very important

00:31:06.780 investigation. And we need to find out what the hell happened. 22 people get murdered in cold

00:31:10.560 blood and the first thing our nation's politicians think about is how could we score some points on

00:31:17.780 this one like i mean and you see this all the time and there's mass shootings in the states you know

00:31:22.420 it's a bit more common there um people want to play politics right away and both sides can be

00:31:28.540 guilty of that i think the anti-gun side seems to do it more but the pro-gun side can do it as well

00:31:33.860 like oh well every one of those teachers should have had a gun like no stop playing a lot of

00:31:39.560 people play politics with this right away but it's rare to see it behind the curtains like this

00:31:45.120 we're seeing the sausage get made we're seeing it done in the real dirty right now um we're just

00:31:51.120 within hours like so it was hours by the time it came down to the cops doing the investigation that

00:31:55.640 means this must have been right away for the politicians uh bill blair possibly trudeau i'm

00:32:02.480 sure we'll never really know but the politicians at the highest level must have immediately said

00:32:06.920 aha, we can make some political hay out of this.

00:32:11.480 What should happen, Dave?

00:32:13.360 What needs to be the consequences? 1.00

00:32:15.520 Brenda Luckey should resign in a perfect world. 1.00

00:32:17.860 Trudeau, or at the very least, Bill Blair, should resign.

00:32:22.240 You know, the full independent inquiry.

00:32:25.240 But it's not going to happen.

00:32:27.280 This is Canada.

00:32:28.340 I mean, how many, going all the way back to SNC-Lavalin,

00:32:31.360 how many scandals has this government had

00:32:33.060 that in other parts of the world,

00:32:35.100 any one of them would have brought down the government?

00:32:36.920 But as news of this scandal is breaking, Trudeau is walking up the stairway into his nice little jet to fly off to Africa.

00:32:47.260 So he misses yet another scandal.

00:32:50.640 And he'll be over in Africa and Europe for a week or so.

00:32:54.120 He didn't even have to pretend to have COVID this time.

00:32:56.200 No, no.

00:32:57.420 I'm sure he'll have COVID when he gets back.

00:32:58.840 But it's, yeah, it is, I think it's the similar worst scandal of his prime ministership.

00:33:07.140 And I'd be very doubtful if anything happens.

00:33:10.620 If Alberta needed another reason to get out of the RCMP, here's another one. 1.00

00:33:14.860 Right now, it's clearly politicized from the highest levels of Ottawa.

00:33:18.540 It's an Ottawa police force.

00:33:20.000 There's tons of great RCMP cops.

00:33:21.720 I've, you know, the RCP officers on the ground in Alberta are overwhelmingly great men and women who I'm proud to have serve in the community.

00:33:32.120 But boy, they got the wrong bosses.

00:33:35.080 They can change uniforms.

00:33:36.720 Yep.

00:33:37.120 That can happen.

00:33:38.260 We just slap a new badge on them.

00:33:40.520 Welcome to the APP.

00:33:42.620 The rot is at the top.

00:33:44.780 All right.

00:33:46.880 We'll have to stick the Alberta Rat Patrol on them.

00:33:48.820 Okay, well, we're going to finish up with this one. The Western Standard Conservative Party of

00:33:56.240 Canada leadership debate is back on. We had originally planned this for the 9th of July

00:34:01.880 during the Calgary Stampede. For that to take place under that program, we were very heavily

00:34:08.180 reliant on a massive number of tickets, but without the participation of all the candidates,

00:34:13.220 we had to downgrade the venue a bit so that we were less reliant on ticket sales.

00:34:17.540 so we had originally cancelled the 9th but I think about 24 hours later we brought her back

00:34:22.860 on the 8th of July and we're going to be having it at 3 p.m. at the Calgary Petroleum Club

00:34:29.700 so far confirmed there's Jean Charest, Patrick Brown, Roman Babber and Scott Acheson

00:34:38.040 unfortunately Leslyn Lewis wasn't able to make it the rescheduling of it and Pierre Poliver

00:34:43.740 just didn't seem to confirm it.

00:34:47.700 He was probably going to be upset about the way you pronounced his name.

00:34:51.760 I just, I can't do it. 0.58

00:34:53.860 Polyev.

00:34:55.120 Oliver.

00:34:57.700 And he's going to be the moderator.

00:34:59.300 You want to pronounce it out for me?

00:35:01.840 Polyev.

00:35:02.360 Poly.

00:35:03.260 Ev. 0.95

00:35:04.400 Ev.

00:35:04.980 Say the whole thing.

00:35:05.980 Polyev.

00:35:06.620 Oliver.

00:35:07.260 Okay.

00:35:07.820 Okay.

00:35:10.920 What do you think he didn't, you know, I can't even ask you.

00:35:13.420 because you do know why.

00:35:14.780 We just can't even have the inside talk here

00:35:16.560 because I've already said,

00:35:18.160 we already know all the,

00:35:19.300 we already know the skinny of it.

00:35:20.860 But I think it's a shame.

00:35:22.000 I think, I think Poliver would have had

00:35:24.180 a pretty welcome reception in Calgary.

00:35:26.000 He's got a lot of support here.

00:35:27.520 I think he's definitely,

00:35:28.640 he's generally leading nationally,

00:35:30.480 but I think really his sport

00:35:32.260 is probably most red hot here in Calgary.

00:35:35.620 And he's the best debater of the group.

00:35:37.840 You know, he's shown that

00:35:38.740 in all his hosts of Commons skills

00:35:41.080 and the debates that we've had, he's the best there is.

00:35:45.900 I guess he's just afraid of making such a gaffe that it'll derail his campaign.

00:35:50.520 Well, he is going to be in for an interview with Corey here.

00:35:55.300 But Corey, you're going to have to ask him, why didn't you come?

00:36:00.400 Why? Give me the answer.

00:36:02.280 Why?

00:36:02.520 Why didn't you come to the debate?

00:36:04.480 I'll do my best impression of it, yes.

00:36:05.800 Why, Mr. Polliver, why did you not come to the debate?

00:36:07.960 Why?

00:36:09.320 I'll try and corner him on it.

00:36:11.080 All right. Well, that's it for today. Dave, Corey, thank you very much for joining me as usual. And thank all of you for joining us on the pipeline. We love your attention. Please like and share the video. Get it out. If you're not yet a member of the Western Standard, sign up now. It's only $10 a month or $99 a year. Go to westernstandard.com. Sorry, westernstandard.news. Sign up and you'll get unlimited access to all Western

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Western Standard - June 23, 2022

The Pipeline： Liberals⧸RCMP play gun politics with NS mass murder

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