The Pipeline. Martial law, what does it mean？
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Derek Fildebrandt is joined by co-hosts Dave Naylor (News Editor) and Cory Morgan (Broadcast Editor) to discuss the martial law situation in Canada, the by-election in Alberta, the border blockades, and much more! Recorded in Calgary, Alberta!
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Good afternoon. I'm Derek Fildebrandt. Today is February 16th, and you're watching The Pipeline.
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I'm joined today, as usual, by co-hosts Dave Naylor, Western Standard News Editor. How are you
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and Dave. And as always, the pleasant and sunny Cory Morgan, our opinion and broadcast editor.
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Good day. Now full opinion and broadcast editor. There's no more assistant out of it. Not a measly
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assistant. You're just the full editor. So now I want an assistant. How about an assistant to the
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assistant? I'm not going to get you an assistant, but I'll get you an assistant to the assistant.
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Okay. You know who the perfect man for that job is? You. Oh, good. I'll get another hat.
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see that's that's an office reference when uh they convinced the white to hire an assistant
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to the assistant regional manager i don't think i've seen that one but uh i see where it's going
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okay uh well obviously uh there's a lot weighing on us very on the whole on all canadians right now
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very heavily um we're going to talk about what martial law means uh right now we we've gone
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through a lot of the mainstream media well they've acknowledged there's something going on they don't
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they don't acknowledge it's even martial law uh they go out of their way to make sure not to
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reference that this is really just the renamed war measures act with some important differences
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there are differences but uh we're gonna go through what it means there's some absolutely
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bonkers stuff and the detailed orders that came out from the emergencies act uh
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absolutely nutty i can't wait to get into that um the border blockades that have come down
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And I mean, that's, I think most of them were coming down or were cleared even before the invocation of the Emergencies Act.
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The COOTS ones come down, doesn't seem to have actually had much to do with the Emergencies Act, but blockades coming down.
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And maybe not as sexy, but I think quite important, a very interesting by-election, the Battle of Fort McMurray or the by-election battle.
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We got Brian Jean, who is the UCB candidate, running against Jason Kenney.
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Incredible situation where there's literally not a single candidate on the ballot who supports the premier of the incumbent government.
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Even if you're a Jason Kenney fan, you have to admit, this is a funny situation.
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I've never heard of a by-election where there's literally no one on the ballot who supports the government.
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What the government is coming after is bank accounts and things like that,
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which is when you're putting your money into a national institution, they can potentially get at that.
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Well, I want to talk about what martial law means.
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So we know it's here, but there's some aspects to it that have been either entirely ignored by the government-funded media or maybe not given as much scrutiny as I think it deserves.
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Dave, want to kind of give us a high-level rundown?
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Sure. I'm sure I'll forget some of it, but you can help me out.
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This is the first time the Emergencies Act has ever been used.
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The old War Measures Act was last used in 1970.
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That was during the FLQ crisis, when people were getting murdered, and it was a very scary situation.
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I was too young to remember, Corey's so old, he might have been out there protesting, but it was scary times.
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He was a bummer around in a testicle at that point.
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Right now, we've got maybe maximum 400 truckers blockaded into downtown Ottawa
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that has got the government with no clue as to what they're going to do
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But the powers are just absolutely mind-blowing, Derek, absolutely sweeping.
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like for example the tow truck drivers they can't find any in alberta to help tow with coot so they
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couldn't find any in ottawa either they can now order tow truck drivers to basically you know
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the point of a gun to go on and move these trucks out of ottawa and if the tow truck drivers refuse
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uh they can go to jail so what we're gonna do we're gonna go through this stuff with you here
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and i'm gonna come point by point back through this kind of discuss some of these interesting
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powers and exemptions. So that one is, that is conscription. The ability, the government can,
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so we're going through these orders today. The government or police officer representing the
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government, if you want a tow truck, or even if you don't, if they just need your car that day,
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or for some reason they want your boat, the government can come to you, man, will come to
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you holding the gun and say, they have to issue a request. That's the funny part, is a request.
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And they can not just take your stuff for your use, they can make you do it.
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And if you say no, you could go to a prison for up to five years.
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You know, they ban protests that they consider problematic.
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I was just wondering what that means to the weekly marches across the country, including in Calgary, where you get thousands of people turning out.
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Well, I should clarify, they just get, they can deem something to be an unlawful assembly if, I think I'm quoting almost exactly here, if they can reasonably believe that it could breach the peace.
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Now, defining breaching the peace, I mean, calling Trudeau a mean name is a breach of the peace now.
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So it depends if what we're considering breaching the peace now.
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They can just, they can, all protests aren't carte blanche declared illegal, just ones that they declare illegal.
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Part of the problems with the convoys in Ottawa and the police trying to move them along is the children.
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Dozens of children are at, you know, right inside the blockade.
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Government has now made it illegal for anybody under 18 to be within 500 meters of a protest.
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So they can go in and take their children if they so desire.
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uh there's a whole bunch of stuff in there about protecting infrastructure and the list of
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infrastructure that they protect is incredibly long one thing they don't protect pipelines and
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logging worlds so you know if you want to go protest or blockade a logging road or a pipeline
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go ahead because that's not problematic strangely they've exempted all first nations people
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and all refugees from the act and protected persons i'm not sure how we're identifying
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no that but i guess that just means any uh any group the liberals like so if you're a
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first nations truck driver and you go park in downtown ottawa that's okay it's just weird
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weird stuff like that um they can go after your bank i mean you've talked about going
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on through the bank they could go into your bank account um what else am i missing derek
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well yeah there is the freezing of financial assets we kind of talked about that in the
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context of bitcoin yeah as you said oh yeah they list what they call infrastructure and
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major exceptions yes yeah okay so let's let's go through um so first is just uh protesting
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and that includes blockading and in some aspects right now there are no blockades left though there
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is just a protest around Parliament Hill. Critics call it an occupation. I mean they are occupying
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a space so sure. But generally if you like a protest you call them dissenters and if you
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don't like a protest you call them occupiers or rioters. So first let's talk about that. That's
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that's the one the media have looked at generally the most and they've said well look not all
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protesting is not banned, just the illegal protests are banned. But if you look at the
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orders that are issued under the Act, it says that you can protest lawfully unless it is an
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unlawful assembly. And an unlawful assembly is defined as an assembly defined by the government
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as unlawful. So it's illegal unless the government says it's illegal. Basically, it just gives them
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a mountain of arbitrary power. That's at the bottom line. They can declare it anytime. They
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can say we've determined i mean with reasonable that's always such a loaded word right you know
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i mean it's the most canadian word and it's used so uh orwellian way yeah and anybody could claim
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to be reasonable with it so if they don't like which one of them is they will say it's not
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reasonably expected to keep the pieces not illegal one and they'll have that authority
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to do it on a drop of a hat if they get this law through um so let's talk a bit more about
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conscription here um i love the language this government order uses uh this disorder around
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martial law conscription they don't use the term conscription it's just called a request
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so um i'm uh i'm an lvp officer i'm an rcmp officer and also uh the rcmp federal police
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are now empowered to start enforcing provincial and municipal law the federal government has
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subsumed provincial sovereignty over our laws so normally we get to decide well how are we going
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going to enforce things? When are we going to enforce things? That's a provincial decision.
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No longer is. It's now nationalized under Ottawa. So conscription. So I'm a RCMP officer and
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Cory's a trucker. I walk up to him. You probably know I've got a gun on me. And I say, Cory,
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get in your truck. Come with me. You're working for me today. You might say, no, I don't want to
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help you. I support the cause. Or you might just say, I've got contracts. I have other things to
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do today. I don't work for you. Well, at that point, I'd probably remind you of the act. And
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if you still fail to comply, I can arrest you, imprison you, and you can serve up to five years
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in prison. But let's say you comply. Let's say you say, okay, fine. I'll walk away. I'll give up
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my conscientious objection to this, or I will abandon my other business contracts and obligations
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for the day and you do come and help me the end of it i could say thank you very much for your work
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the government will send you a check you don't get to negotiate with me about how much you're
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going to get paid the government just says here's how much you're going to get paid and and that's
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that even if you would have been forced to give up other contracts that you had that day or
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whatever else was going on um i can't think of much like that in the history of canada no i i've got
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a column that's going to be going up this afternoon at westernstandardonline.com actually
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from a phd philosophy student that was quite interesting and he went through it very carefully
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and pointing out actually that this is by definition a form of slavery and there's not
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an exaggeration that's when you take somebody and force their labor against their will even
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if there's a bit of compensation you could say the old slave owners fed the slaves and housed
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them that was compensation but there was no negotiation as you said for the number and you
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had no choice in the matter so so and he says quite clearly in the article he's not comparing
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this to of course the days of 150 years ago in the states but technically that's what we've got going
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on same with martial law people get upset on social media with me using that term but look
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up the definition and it says the suspension of civil rights by a government this is it guys this
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is exactly what it is well you know if if i compel you to do something and you don't get any say over
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what you get paid for it, well that's slavery. Yeah I mean just you know right now I mean I
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can complain and why but I can always get up and walk out the door. You have the right to not work
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here. Yes you won't be able to charge me or assault me or anything like that if we fall.
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I will beat him if he tries to renegotiate his contract. Well okay we're going to work on that.
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You won't legally do it. Yeah I would not do it with the sanction of the law. Yes yes so I mean
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but I mean the precedents of this are very very disturbing and distressing. I mean
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If you're sitting parked, idling with your tow truck and they feel you did everything better to do, they're going to pull you into service.
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And I suspect, I mean, I would say, I don't know.
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But if a person said, geez, I really have the sniffles today and I think I might have COVID, it would be pretty dangerous if the state forced that person to go among other people and do their work.
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I think it's important to point out, Derek, that these martial laws are being brought in,
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even though there has not been a single violent incident at any of the blockades. There were the
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weapons found in Coots, which we'll get to later. But we've now got a story on the website today
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that the parliamentary press gallery has been so intimidated by these truckers, they're asking for
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armed protection so taxpayers are now paying for armed guards uh to protect the parliamentary
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press gallery it's it's just the the the level of uh of violence just doesn't match the level of
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non-violence it's just ludicrous that they've brought in all this stuff well yeah i mean the
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things that were illegal are still illegal you can't assault people press members are not as
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tempting as it may be you're not you can't do it and the law is there for that and we have law
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enforcement officers for that that should be capable of doing the job, as Dave said too.
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I mean, you know, the other incidents where they're having anything, borders and so on,
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the existing law enforcement capabilities were able to manage it.
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Well, let's go on to infrastructure here. So I crashed your show, came in,
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because I came in all excited. I was like, oh my God, we found this insane crap in the emergency
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order here uh i read off or you read off a very extensive list that's i don't have it memorized
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but it's a very long list of uh items that are protected including bus stations watch bus stops
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bus stops are considered critical infrastructure here uh covet 19 vaccination next critical
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infrastructure you're not allowed to protest or block entrance to in any way those kinds of places
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not on this very extensive list was oil pipelines.
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But just hazard a guess why oil pipelines might not be included
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on the very otherwise extensive list of critical infrastructure that's protected.
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Well, I mean, for one, we do have an ideological prime minister
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who just doesn't like oil pipelines anyway, so we wouldn't be sad about it.
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But, of course, there would be a lot of sticky protesters in the First Nations communities,
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and the court doesn't represent all the First Nations.
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we've been over that who may choose to or might already be in the process there's always one
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protest or another going on on an oil pipeline and the government does not want to feel compelled
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to have to deal with that they are always scared witness of dealing with those protests so they're
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making sure not only having racial aspects built into their emergencies act but uh the the ability
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now to protest on certain types of infrastructure but not others it's ridiculous so the the the
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The logging road at the Ferry Creek site on Vancouver Island is now a protective infrastructure.
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The RCMP have made 1,200 arrests over the last several months at that site,
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but now there's certainly been no order for them, a full cabinet order, emergency order, to clear them out.
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They've tried to starve workers from getting food in, stop them from getting heating fuel in.
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Those are clear acts of violence, the likes of which we've seen none of these protests, none of these blockades.
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Yeah, the coastal gas link blockade that the hereditary chiefs did, that sort of thing.
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So that leads me to think, I know how the truckers can keep on protesting.
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I know they don't want to leave Parliament Hill.
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But if they just turn their trucks back on, drive away from Parliament, and find the nearest oil pipeline, just protest there.
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Just protest against it doing its piping oil through it.
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It'll still bring the economy to its knees, but it's legal.
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Okay, let's talk about some other funny exemptions in this.
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I could not believe my eyes reading through when I saw this part,
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but then somebody thought, this is Justin Trudeau and this is Canada.
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can't believe it. So section two of the emergency order states that persons in the following
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categories are exempted from section one, which is pretty much all the limitations.
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And the first exempt category was persons defined as Indians under the Indian Act.
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I use the term Indian, it's kind of old school, so First Nations people, but Indian has a technical, legal, legislative term.
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So official status Indians, if you have official Indian status, you're totally exempt.
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Then after that, there were several categories of refugees, and then vaguely defined protected persons.
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We have it with the Indian Act and a whole number of things, but it's just complete absurdity.
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Why do you think they said these groups of people, First Nations, refugees, and whatever else protected persons is, why does this not apply to them?
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They've exceeded my ability to imagine on this one.
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I mean, there are First Nations people out there at the protests.
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So, you know, it's not technically a First Nation protest, but there's First Nation people out there.
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We're going to evict these ones, but not those ones.
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Show me your status card before I hit you with a truncheon.
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Or, you know, if you're a First Nations tow truck driver, I guess you won't have to necessarily work.
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It's not like there was a large element of First Nations to try and quell or exempt him.
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I don't know why and where they're going with this.
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I can just see the right police going through and they're looking around.
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Because there's a, you know, it's not anything close to the majority.
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But there's a not insignificant contingent of First Nations people there.
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As much as some of the government press tries to ignore that that's a fact.
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But are they literally going to go around and start checking the color of people's skin here to see if they can be removed?
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That's just a case of another example of how woke this government is, how woke Justin Trudeau is.
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You know, we're certainly a long way away from sunny days of 2000 and sunny waves of 2015, aren't we?
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I lost faith in Canada quite a while ago, but this just shows there really is no institutional
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If you have a government, it used to be just a majority government, and Trudeau effectively
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has a majority government because the NDP will back them on virtually anything as long
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as it goes further in that more extreme direction.
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I was watching Tucker Carlson, his monologue last night, and he said, you know, Canada's fallen.
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Like, it used to be a couple months ago, we'd all chuckle at Australia.
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They didn't even implement martial law in order to do that or an emergencies act or measures.
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I mean, it's a suspension of civil rights that, again, it's not justified.
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We're a penal colony now without the nice weather.
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Okay, well, there's been some movement on the border blockades.
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Coutts, Ambassador Bridge, I believe, one in Manitoba.
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Yeah, so why don't you give us an update, Dave?
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There was an RCMP release on Monday, I believe, about a caster of weapons being discovered in Coutts.
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handguns, what looked like automatic, semi-automatic weapons, body armor.
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Nobody from the truckers group really knows who they were, they weren't part of the overall
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They just came in, they were obviously interlopers, you know, had their own experience.
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Yeah, our reporters who have developed pretty close relationships and know people on the ground here, according to all of our sources, protesters on the ground, blockaders, whatever you want to call them, they didn't know who any of these people were.
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No. Right after the announcement, the real convoy organizers down there met, and I think they got the sense that we've lost sort of moral high ground with this now. We cannot be associated with this type of action.
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And the Ambassador Bridge was cleared out fairly easily and without drama on Saturday or Sunday morning on the weekend.
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So right now there are no border blockades in the country.
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The only protest going on, the only major protest going on is the one in Ottawa.
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But, you know, as Corey said on his show today, this is the weekend to get out there and show your support for the convoy
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and your disdain for the martial law that, you know, people have to take to the streets.
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Basically, I mean, we've been doing it right so far, and it has been shaking up the government.
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It has. I mean, they're shaking. They're panicked.
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We can keep peacefully pressuring these guys, you know, don't let this, in my view, I mean, this is my activist coming out.
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Well, and that's how you keep the moral high ground.
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I mean, as soon as you start acting like BLM goons and going around, breaking windows, lighting something on fire, you lose the moral high ground.
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I mean, those guys can burn down cities in the United States, hence declared mostly peaceful.
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and guys who are supporting lifting restrictions
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oh, man, okay, this is getting beyond our control.
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We can't seem to separate the wheat from the chaff here,
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they don't they wouldn't stop they wouldn't blockade they could just drive them slowly
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in circles yeah there's lots of things to be done but they can do it around major cities and things
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like that uh there are things that i yeah i don't think we've seen the last of them i i think the
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freedom block convoys which became freedom blockades are becoming probably become just convoys
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again exactly yeah and there's less opportunity in a convoy for someone who's looking for trouble
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Like these guys who, you know, got busted with a, I always like it when the press say a large cache of guns and ammunition.
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It's not more than I take out to shoot a goose with or something.
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I always wear full body armor when I go goose hunting.
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our other sponsor today is the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
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maybe not quite so physically making a presence,
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speaking for all law-abiding firearms owners in Canada.
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These guys launched legal challenges against crazy arbitrary laws
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These guys conduct advocacy campaigns to educate Canadians and Westerners
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on what is good and reasonable firearms policy in the country.
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They have done so much to support your right to own, purchase,
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Without these guys, I think we'd have a lot more legal guns owned safely by safe firearms owners of Canada
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and a lot more guns on the streets in the hands of criminals.
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So I'd encourage you guys, do what I've done over a decade ago.
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Go and join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
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See, I didn't even have to look at the screen for that.
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Anyone from the CSSA is watching this, please change your URL.
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People search things nowadays rather manually type most often.
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So Canada Shooting Sports Association, you'll find them.
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I don't know why they have to get a French name.
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Anyway, before I get in trouble, let's move on.
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It's the whole reason I started to stand back up.
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So, you know, bioactions are often interesting.
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Normally a by-election in a safe seat for any party is not that interesting.
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The most interesting by-election in the recent history of Alberta had a familiar name in it in, I think, 2009 or 10.
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He was the outgoing leader of something called the Wild Rose Party at the time.
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The PCs fell from first, third, liberals, second.
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Paul Hinman entered as the first Wild Rose Party member of the legislature.
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He's now the leader of the Wild Rose Independence Party.
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But that's just kind of teeing up that there is a history of some interesting by-elections.
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And the most interesting guy for the most interesting by-election is running in this one, too.
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But, Dave, why don't you tell us what also makes this by-election so interesting?
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Well, the fact that the UCP candidate wants to remove Kenny from power.
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As you said, Derek, unprecedented in our history.
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Brian Jean has been running a SNARK campaign or whatever you want to call it for months now.
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You remember he lost the leadership race for the UCP to Jason Kenney.
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So he won the nomination up there in the UCP colors.
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So you've got a candidate for a party, a governing party who wants the leader removed.
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I think secretly, Jason Kenney would probably hope the NDP would win over Brian Jean.
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I had an exclusive interview with the Premier late last week, and I asked him,
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I'm like, well, any plans to go out there for the UCP candidate and do some campaigning?
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He didn't say the word no, but it was a lot of, well, I haven't thought that far ahead in my schedules, full, and, you know, I've got a budget to prepare, a throne speech.
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You can take it to the bank, and you're not going to see Jason Kenney in Fort McMurray or Laklovich during the campaign.
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It's going to be an interesting – March 15th is the vote date.
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So we're not even going to talk about the NDP candidate here.
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I could be wrong, but the NDP is not going to win there.
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But you've got, I guess, so there's going to, the Alberta party doesn't have a candidate yet.
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The Liberals, I don't know if they're even technically alive.
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I think David Kahn has just got the casket that far closed on before he left the leadership of the Liberals.
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And the question is, have they encased it in a pyramid yet?
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Oh, yeah, Marilyn Burns is running up there as well.
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Well, there's three that are worth concerning over it all.
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And I don't realistically think Paul is likely to win there.
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But when you've got all three significant candidates who are all opposed to Jason Kenney,
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the Wild Rose Party is opposed to him from the right, the MVP is opposed to him from the left,
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and Brian Jean is opposed to him from inside the UCP,
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If you're anti-Jason Kenney, you've got so many places to cast your vote.
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So, Corey, do you think that just takes too much of the wind out of Wild Rose's sails to be able to capitalize there,
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if you could vote UCP and still vote against Kenney?
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I mean, I worked on that campaign when Paul won back in 2010, and the theme of it was send Ed a message.
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And you only had one real solid candidate to do that.
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You know, you had Diane Collier-Cart and Paul Hinman, and then you started getting liberal in the NDP beyond that.
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But if you were conservative, you were discontent with the leadership, you had that option to put that vote towards.
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And in this case, as you said, the discontented UCP members know that the middle finger that could send Kenny might even be bigger by voting for the UCP than by voting for Paul.
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And it makes it more difficult for Paul to carve a wedge.
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The only thing that stands out, though, is Paul is a tireless campaigner.
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He's been up there for a month and some already.
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But if you're getting that public feel and attention and media,
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it's going to be very difficult for him to surpass it.
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I mean, I never like to underestimate it, but it's going to be a tough one.
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I'm astounded that he is the official candidate.
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Technically, it looks unlikely to happen, but technically, at any moment, he can just not sign his papers.
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He can fire him as the UCB candidate and appoint his own.
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Now, Gene would then run as an independent, and then, well, then we're splitting the vote.
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There was not a single candidate on the UCP ticket in the last election who did not have his personal blessing.
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Some of them were not his very first choices, but he was at least okay with all of them.
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But Gene was in such a weird position, because if he would have discounted or disqualified
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Gene from being allowed to run for the UCP nomination, well then Gene would have run
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as an independent, or maybe Wildrose, who knows, and very possibly won there.
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They were counting on their candidate, what was his name, I can't remember, Joshua, the
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a favorite Kenny candidate, recruited by Casey Maddow, they thought he was going to win,
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And he got not just lost, he got smeared in the nomination.
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And the timing isn't going to be any worse either.
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So, you know, assuming it's Brian Jean, the thing is, no matter what happens, whoever
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wins this by-election, Jason Kenny still loses.
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NDP, you know, in that long shot that that gets in, that freaks out all the UCP voters to say,
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If Paul wins, it's saying the UCP, again, almost similarly, is so split with the right and everything,
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And if Gene wins, well, then you've got this thorn in Kenny's butt.
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Three weeks from Kenny's leadership review, he's screwed.
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I'm projecting right now, Kenny loses the by-election.
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If Wildrose, Wildrose is highly unlikely, but let's just say hypothetically, because they'll probably pay place respectively, but probably not going to be enough to win anything like that.
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But if they won, well, then you have a visible representation of the Wild Rose back in the legislature in the face of the United Conservative Party.
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It shows that there would be hemorrhaging support to the right.
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People could say, look, we can't do this again.
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And send a message to the federal conservatives and federal liberals.
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I mean, you'd have a bull in the China shop of caucus.
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He's not just another dissenter like some of the current MLAs who are unhappy and want to change out of the leadership.
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You'd have Brian Jeanin elected on a mandate to get rid of him right before the leadership race.
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Bob Rose split the vote, and this just shows why Bob Rose has got to go away.
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Governments tend not to win by elections overall.
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They were in the high 60s or 70s when they won this.
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I think Kenny just may go bury his head in the pillow and go into the fetal position on March 15th.
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No, and I haven't looked into when is the legislative stage scheduled.
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if I'm going to guess, I don't even know if they've said yet
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but I'm going to guess it's not until after the leadership
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review is over. There's no way Kenny is going to
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well that's what I mean. So I mean the thing is you can still
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you won't have those options. I wonder if there's any
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sworn in until the legislature comes back, and therefore not be an official member of
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One of the spokes in the spanner, in the wheel, is the budget.
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We're going to have a good news budget because of the soaring oil prices, and he's going
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to have money to throw around, and I'm going to assume he wants to do that before he can
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Yeah, so he would have to bring the legislature back in to do that.
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Well, actually, no, government's going to announce things all the time.
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can announce things you just can't necessarily actually if they want to get good news out they
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can leak it that's a great way to do it uh if you're watching right now uh yeah pre-mckinney
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if you're watching right now and you you want to get this budget news out before the legislature
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comes just uh let's talk sure yeah nice job last week actually i thought it was an amicable interview
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i thought it was very interesting got some questions he's probably not used to getting
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from uh the mainstream press okay well uh let's wrap it up there uh dave and corey thank you
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