Western Standard - February 17, 2022


The Pipeline. Martial law, what does it mean？


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00:00:00.000 Transcription by CastingWords
00:00:30.000 Good afternoon. I'm Derek Fildebrandt. Today is February 16th, and you're watching The Pipeline.
00:00:53.880 I'm joined today, as usual, by co-hosts Dave Naylor, Western Standard News Editor. How are you
00:00:59.520 and Dave. And as always, the pleasant and sunny Cory Morgan, our opinion and broadcast editor.
00:01:08.000 Good day. Now full opinion and broadcast editor. There's no more assistant out of it. Not a measly
00:01:13.200 assistant. You're just the full editor. So now I want an assistant. How about an assistant to the
00:01:19.280 assistant? I'm not going to get you an assistant, but I'll get you an assistant to the assistant.
00:01:23.040 Okay. You know who the perfect man for that job is? You. Oh, good. I'll get another hat.
00:01:28.400 see that's that's an office reference when uh they convinced the white to hire an assistant
00:01:34.880 to the assistant regional manager i don't think i've seen that one but uh i see where it's going
00:01:41.760 okay uh well obviously uh there's a lot weighing on us very on the whole on all canadians right now
00:01:49.840 very heavily um we're going to talk about what martial law means uh right now we we've gone
00:01:57.200 through a lot of the mainstream media well they've acknowledged there's something going on they don't
00:02:01.200 they don't acknowledge it's even martial law uh they go out of their way to make sure not to
00:02:05.920 reference that this is really just the renamed war measures act with some important differences
00:02:09.680 there are differences but uh we're gonna go through what it means there's some absolutely
00:02:13.680 bonkers stuff and the detailed orders that came out from the emergencies act uh
00:02:20.480 absolutely nutty i can't wait to get into that um the border blockades that have come down
00:02:27.200 And I mean, that's, I think most of them were coming down or were cleared even before the invocation of the Emergencies Act.
00:02:35.860 The COOTS ones come down, doesn't seem to have actually had much to do with the Emergencies Act, but blockades coming down.
00:02:41.020 We're going to talk about that.
00:02:42.560 And maybe not as sexy, but I think quite important, a very interesting by-election, the Battle of Fort McMurray or the by-election battle.
00:02:51.980 Lac-La-Bish too.
00:02:53.540 I'm sorry, Lac-La-Bish.
00:02:54.760 Don't hate on me, Lac-La-Bish listeners.
00:02:57.200 All two of you.
00:03:00.600 We got Brian Jean, who is the UCB candidate, running against Jason Kenney.
00:03:06.360 Incredible situation where there's literally not a single candidate on the ballot who supports the premier of the incumbent government.
00:03:12.920 I've never heard of a situation like this.
00:03:15.640 Even if you're a Jason Kenney fan, you have to admit, this is a funny situation.
00:03:19.580 It's bizarre.
00:03:20.480 I've never heard of a by-election where there's literally no one on the ballot who supports the government.
00:03:23.720 It's funny.
00:03:25.100 All right.
00:03:26.520 Well, before we get into it, I just want to thank all of our Western Standard members for your continued support.
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00:05:45.200 You should just be aware.
00:05:46.060 We're going to get into the Emergencies Act here.
00:05:48.680 The government, regardless of the current situation, the government has now clearly demonstrated they have an ability and a willingness to seize your money.
00:05:57.800 They can steal your money.
00:05:59.880 You might think that these guys are bad.
00:06:01.760 They should have their money stolen.
00:06:02.620 Well, guess what?
00:06:02.960 It might be you tomorrow.
00:06:04.180 And they can't steal Bitcoin.
00:06:07.300 It's even better than gold.
00:06:08.380 You can bury your gold in the ground.
00:06:09.520 If no one finds it, well, then they can't steal it.
00:06:11.840 But with Bitcoin, they can't take it away.
00:06:13.780 It's secure.
00:06:14.560 Yeah, just some clarity on that, because the government would like to get it if they could, and they can't.
00:06:18.040 What the government is coming after is bank accounts and things like that,
00:06:20.720 which is when you're putting your money into a national institution, they can potentially get at that.
00:06:25.020 They've got no way to get your wallet.
00:06:26.420 No way.
00:06:27.360 Well, if the government came after me today, I've only just begun building my own Bitcoin account.
00:06:33.060 It's pretty new.
00:06:34.040 But if the government came today and frees my assets and stole my money, well, I'd still have a little bit of Bitcoin.
00:06:40.720 Yeah, it's a hedge, if nothing else.
00:06:42.440 Yeah.
00:06:43.020 Okay.
00:06:43.460 I'm just glad I have no money.
00:06:46.360 We got the beat.
00:06:47.300 There's nothing to take.
00:06:48.700 If you have no money, don't worry about Bitcoin because there's nothing to take.
00:06:53.200 Okay.
00:06:54.080 Well, I want to talk about what martial law means.
00:06:58.780 We've done some breakdowns today.
00:07:00.300 We've had some news stories on it.
00:07:01.280 I've written a column.
00:07:03.580 So we know it's here, but there's some aspects to it that have been either entirely ignored by the government-funded media or maybe not given as much scrutiny as I think it deserves.
00:07:15.420 Dave, want to kind of give us a high-level rundown?
00:07:17.600 Sure. I'm sure I'll forget some of it, but you can help me out.
00:07:22.240 This is the first time the Emergencies Act has ever been used.
00:07:25.700 The old War Measures Act was last used in 1970.
00:07:29.100 That was during the FLQ crisis, when people were getting murdered, and it was a very scary situation.
00:07:37.240 I was too young to remember, Corey's so old, he might have been out there protesting, but it was scary times. 0.98
00:07:43.420 He was a bummer around in a testicle at that point. 0.96
00:07:45.980 One more year before I was born. 0.99
00:07:48.100 Scary.
00:07:48.960 Family show.
00:07:50.440 Scary times for the country at that time.
00:07:53.660 Right now, we've got maybe maximum 400 truckers blockaded into downtown Ottawa
00:08:02.340 that has got the government with no clue as to what they're going to do
00:08:06.840 and how they're going to get rid of them.
00:08:08.380 So they brought in this Emergencies Act.
00:08:10.420 It still has to be passed by Parliament.
00:08:14.060 But the powers are just absolutely mind-blowing, Derek, absolutely sweeping.
00:08:19.440 like for example the tow truck drivers they can't find any in alberta to help tow with coot so they
00:08:26.980 couldn't find any in ottawa either they can now order tow truck drivers to basically you know
00:08:32.340 the point of a gun to go on and move these trucks out of ottawa and if the tow truck drivers refuse
00:08:39.060 uh they can go to jail so what we're gonna do we're gonna go through this stuff with you here
00:08:43.180 and i'm gonna come point by point back through this kind of discuss some of these interesting
00:08:46.480 powers and exemptions. So that one is, that is conscription. The ability, the government can,
00:08:52.660 so we're going through these orders today. The government or police officer representing the
00:08:56.880 government, if you want a tow truck, or even if you don't, if they just need your car that day,
00:09:01.480 or for some reason they want your boat, the government can come to you, man, will come to
00:09:05.540 you holding the gun and say, they have to issue a request. That's the funny part, is a request.
00:09:12.240 Makes it sound as if it's an option.
00:09:13.920 It's an offer you can't refuse.
00:09:15.980 And they can not just take your stuff for your use, they can make you do it.
00:09:21.440 And if you say no, you could go to a prison for up to five years.
00:09:24.900 Yeah, it's just crazy.
00:09:26.460 You know, they ban protests that they consider problematic.
00:09:31.880 I was just wondering what that means to the weekly marches across the country, including in Calgary, where you get thousands of people turning out.
00:09:39.160 They would now be breaking the law.
00:09:41.980 There's no...
00:09:42.900 Well, I should clarify, they just get, they can deem something to be an unlawful assembly if, I think I'm quoting almost exactly here, if they can reasonably believe that it could breach the peace.
00:09:56.620 Now, defining breaching the peace, I mean, calling Trudeau a mean name is a breach of the peace now.
00:10:03.760 So it depends if what we're considering breaching the peace now.
00:10:07.480 They can just, they can, all protests aren't carte blanche declared illegal, just ones that they declare illegal.
00:10:13.460 Yeah, exactly.
00:10:15.260 Part of the problems with the convoys in Ottawa and the police trying to move them along is the children.
00:10:22.420 Dozens of children are at, you know, right inside the blockade.
00:10:26.780 Government has now made it illegal for anybody under 18 to be within 500 meters of a protest.
00:10:32.620 So they can go in and take their children if they so desire.
00:10:37.480 uh there's a whole bunch of stuff in there about protecting infrastructure and the list of
00:10:42.200 infrastructure that they protect is incredibly long one thing they don't protect pipelines and
00:10:48.440 logging worlds so you know if you want to go protest or blockade a logging road or a pipeline 0.61
00:10:55.640 go ahead because that's not problematic strangely they've exempted all first nations people
00:11:03.880 and all refugees from the act and protected persons i'm not sure how we're identifying
00:11:09.880 no that but i guess that just means any uh any group the liberals like so if you're a
00:11:17.880 first nations truck driver and you go park in downtown ottawa that's okay it's just weird
00:11:25.240 weird stuff like that um they can go after your bank i mean you've talked about going
00:11:31.400 on through the bank they could go into your bank account um what else am i missing derek
00:11:38.200 well yeah there is the freezing of financial assets we kind of talked about that in the
00:11:41.720 context of bitcoin yeah as you said oh yeah they list what they call infrastructure and
00:11:46.120 major exceptions yes yeah okay so let's let's go through um so first is just uh protesting
00:11:54.120 and that includes blockading and in some aspects right now there are no blockades left though there
00:11:59.080 is just a protest around Parliament Hill. Critics call it an occupation. I mean they are occupying
00:12:05.400 a space so sure. But generally if you like a protest you call them dissenters and if you
00:12:10.840 don't like a protest you call them occupiers or rioters. So first let's talk about that. That's
00:12:18.040 that's the one the media have looked at generally the most and they've said well look not all
00:12:23.160 protesting is not banned, just the illegal protests are banned. But if you look at the
00:12:28.440 orders that are issued under the Act, it says that you can protest lawfully unless it is an
00:12:36.040 unlawful assembly. And an unlawful assembly is defined as an assembly defined by the government
00:12:43.320 as unlawful. So it's illegal unless the government says it's illegal. Basically, it just gives them
00:12:47.800 a mountain of arbitrary power. That's at the bottom line. They can declare it anytime. They
00:12:52.120 can say we've determined i mean with reasonable that's always such a loaded word right you know
00:12:56.920 i mean it's the most canadian word and it's used so uh orwellian way yeah and anybody could claim
00:13:01.800 to be reasonable with it so if they don't like which one of them is they will say it's not
00:13:05.000 reasonably expected to keep the pieces not illegal one and they'll have that authority
00:13:08.600 to do it on a drop of a hat if they get this law through um so let's talk a bit more about
00:13:17.080 conscription here um i love the language this government order uses uh this disorder around
00:13:23.640 martial law conscription they don't use the term conscription it's just called a request
00:13:28.120 so um i'm uh i'm an lvp officer i'm an rcmp officer and also uh the rcmp federal police
00:13:35.720 are now empowered to start enforcing provincial and municipal law the federal government has
00:13:40.200 subsumed provincial sovereignty over our laws so normally we get to decide well how are we going
00:13:45.960 going to enforce things? When are we going to enforce things? That's a provincial decision.
00:13:49.280 No longer is. It's now nationalized under Ottawa. So conscription. So I'm a RCMP officer and
00:13:56.280 Cory's a trucker. I walk up to him. You probably know I've got a gun on me. And I say, Cory,
00:14:03.680 get in your truck. Come with me. You're working for me today. You might say, no, I don't want to
00:14:09.280 help you. I support the cause. Or you might just say, I've got contracts. I have other things to
00:14:14.440 do today. I don't work for you. Well, at that point, I'd probably remind you of the act. And
00:14:20.640 if you still fail to comply, I can arrest you, imprison you, and you can serve up to five years
00:14:29.240 in prison. But let's say you comply. Let's say you say, okay, fine. I'll walk away. I'll give up
00:14:35.660 my conscientious objection to this, or I will abandon my other business contracts and obligations
00:14:41.600 for the day and you do come and help me the end of it i could say thank you very much for your work
00:14:47.680 the government will send you a check you don't get to negotiate with me about how much you're
00:14:52.320 going to get paid the government just says here's how much you're going to get paid and and that's
00:14:56.160 that even if you would have been forced to give up other contracts that you had that day or
00:15:01.040 whatever else was going on um i can't think of much like that in the history of canada no i i've got
00:15:08.880 a column that's going to be going up this afternoon at westernstandardonline.com actually
00:15:13.040 from a phd philosophy student that was quite interesting and he went through it very carefully
00:15:17.920 and pointing out actually that this is by definition a form of slavery and there's not
00:15:22.640 an exaggeration that's when you take somebody and force their labor against their will even
00:15:26.720 if there's a bit of compensation you could say the old slave owners fed the slaves and housed
00:15:30.880 them that was compensation but there was no negotiation as you said for the number and you
00:15:34.960 had no choice in the matter so so and he says quite clearly in the article he's not comparing
00:15:39.120 this to of course the days of 150 years ago in the states but technically that's what we've got going
00:15:44.000 on same with martial law people get upset on social media with me using that term but look
00:15:48.560 up the definition and it says the suspension of civil rights by a government this is it guys this
00:15:53.280 is exactly what it is well you know if if i compel you to do something and you don't get any say over
00:16:00.400 what you get paid for it, well that's slavery. Yeah I mean just you know right now I mean I
00:16:04.880 can complain and why but I can always get up and walk out the door. You have the right to not work
00:16:08.560 here. Yes you won't be able to charge me or assault me or anything like that if we fall.
00:16:12.960 I will beat him if he tries to renegotiate his contract. Well okay we're going to work on that.
00:16:18.720 You won't legally do it. Yeah I would not do it with the sanction of the law. Yes yes so I mean
00:16:24.960 but I mean the precedents of this are very very disturbing and distressing. I mean
00:16:28.800 I mean, they're press gangs.
00:16:30.560 You know what?
00:16:30.940 If you're sitting parked, idling with your tow truck and they feel you did everything better to do, they're going to pull you into service.
00:16:36.220 Like, this is bizarre.
00:16:37.960 And I suspect, I mean, I would say, I don't know.
00:16:40.320 I'm not a legal person.
00:16:41.000 I won't give legal advice.
00:16:41.660 But if a person said, geez, I really have the sniffles today and I think I might have COVID, it would be pretty dangerous if the state forced that person to go among other people and do their work.
00:16:50.360 But I don't know.
00:16:50.900 I think it's important to point out, Derek, that these martial laws are being brought in,
00:16:56.580 even though there has not been a single violent incident at any of the blockades. There were the
00:17:02.660 weapons found in Coots, which we'll get to later. But we've now got a story on the website today
00:17:09.620 that the parliamentary press gallery has been so intimidated by these truckers, they're asking for
00:17:14.980 armed protection so taxpayers are now paying for armed guards uh to protect the parliamentary
00:17:22.340 press gallery it's it's just the the the level of uh of violence just doesn't match the level of
00:17:29.780 non-violence it's just ludicrous that they've brought in all this stuff well yeah i mean the
00:17:33.700 things that were illegal are still illegal you can't assault people press members are not as
00:17:37.300 tempting as it may be you're not you can't do it and the law is there for that and we have law
00:17:41.140 enforcement officers for that that should be capable of doing the job, as Dave said too.
00:17:46.660 I mean, you know, the other incidents where they're having anything, borders and so on,
00:17:50.900 the existing law enforcement capabilities were able to manage it.
00:17:54.660 Well, let's go on to infrastructure here. So I crashed your show, came in,
00:18:02.180 because I came in all excited. I was like, oh my God, we found this insane crap in the emergency 0.89
00:18:07.780 order here uh i read off or you read off a very extensive list that's i don't have it memorized
00:18:12.580 but it's a very long list of uh items that are protected including bus stations watch bus stops
00:18:19.620 bus stops are considered critical infrastructure here uh covet 19 vaccination next critical
00:18:25.860 infrastructure you're not allowed to protest or block entrance to in any way those kinds of places
00:18:30.020 not on this very extensive list was oil pipelines.
00:18:36.180 Corey, why?
00:18:38.060 But just hazard a guess why oil pipelines might not be included
00:18:42.480 on the very otherwise extensive list of critical infrastructure that's protected.
00:18:47.040 Well, I mean, for one, we do have an ideological prime minister
00:18:49.760 who just doesn't like oil pipelines anyway, so we wouldn't be sad about it. 0.99
00:18:53.080 But, of course, there would be a lot of sticky protesters in the First Nations communities,
00:18:56.900 and the court doesn't represent all the First Nations.
00:18:58.640 we've been over that who may choose to or might already be in the process there's always one
00:19:03.600 protest or another going on on an oil pipeline and the government does not want to feel compelled
00:19:07.760 to have to deal with that they are always scared witness of dealing with those protests so they're
00:19:11.680 making sure not only having racial aspects built into their emergencies act but uh the the ability
00:19:17.600 now to protest on certain types of infrastructure but not others it's ridiculous so the the the
00:19:23.920 The logging road at the Ferry Creek site on Vancouver Island is now a protective infrastructure.
00:19:30.140 The RCMP have made 1,200 arrests over the last several months at that site,
00:19:34.700 but now there's certainly been no order for them, a full cabinet order, emergency order, to clear them out.
00:19:42.780 Well, there's been acts of violence there.
00:19:45.480 They've tried to starve workers from getting food in, stop them from getting heating fuel in.
00:19:51.240 Those are clear acts of violence, the likes of which we've seen none of these protests, none of these blockades.
00:19:57.560 Yeah, the coastal gas link blockade that the hereditary chiefs did, that sort of thing.
00:20:01.260 Yeah.
00:20:04.020 So that leads me to think, I know how the truckers can keep on protesting.
00:20:08.940 I know they don't want to leave Parliament Hill.
00:20:10.540 I know they don't want to leave there.
00:20:11.700 But if they just turn their trucks back on, drive away from Parliament, and find the nearest oil pipeline, just protest there.
00:20:20.180 You don't have to protest against the oil.
00:20:21.900 Just protest against it doing its piping oil through it.
00:20:26.400 It'll still bring the economy to its knees, but it's legal.
00:20:30.800 You can do that.
00:20:31.340 Go block line five.
00:20:32.840 Yeah, coming up.
00:20:33.660 Why not?
00:20:34.680 Go block line five.
00:20:35.760 That's a wonderful idea.
00:20:37.600 Okay, let's talk about some other funny exemptions in this.
00:20:41.360 I could not believe my eyes reading through when I saw this part,
00:20:46.180 but then somebody thought, this is Justin Trudeau and this is Canada.
00:20:50.180 can't believe it. So section two of the emergency order states that persons in the following
00:21:00.340 categories are exempted from section one, which is pretty much all the limitations.
00:21:05.860 And the first exempt category was persons defined as Indians under the Indian Act.
00:21:11.860 I use the term Indian, it's kind of old school, so First Nations people, but Indian has a technical, legal, legislative term.
00:21:18.840 So official status Indians, if you have official Indian status, you're totally exempt. 0.97
00:21:26.520 None of this applies to you. 1.00
00:21:28.180 You're scot-free. 1.00
00:21:29.680 Then after that, there were several categories of refugees, and then vaguely defined protected persons. 1.00
00:21:41.860 Corey, we're speechless.
00:21:45.220 I know.
00:21:45.640 What do you say to this? 0.95
00:21:47.620 I mean, it's race-based law. 0.98
00:21:49.320 We already have it. 0.97
00:21:50.180 We have it with the Indian Act and a whole number of things, but it's just complete absurdity.
00:21:54.860 Why do you think they said these groups of people, First Nations, refugees, and whatever else protected persons is, why does this not apply to them?
00:22:09.040 They've exceeded my ability to imagine on this one. 0.97
00:22:12.360 I really, it's just, it's ridiculous. 1.00
00:22:15.120 I mean, there are First Nations people out there at the protests. 1.00
00:22:19.020 So, you know, it's not technically a First Nation protest, but there's First Nation people out there.
00:22:23.460 They're citizens like everybody else.
00:22:25.400 And now how are they going to parse this?
00:22:27.400 We're going to evict these ones, but not those ones.
00:22:29.960 Show me your status card before I hit you with a truncheon. 1.00
00:22:32.940 Or, you know, if you're a First Nations tow truck driver, I guess you won't have to necessarily work. 1.00
00:22:37.200 It's just absurd. 1.00
00:22:38.180 And I don't know what you're trying to do.
00:22:40.620 It's not like there was a large element of First Nations to try and quell or exempt him.
00:22:46.100 I don't know why and where they're going with this. 0.57
00:22:48.300 I can just see the right police going through and they're looking around. 1.00
00:22:51.160 Okay, is that guy a status Indian? 1.00
00:22:53.740 Okay, let's beat him. 0.99
00:22:55.240 Because there's a, you know, it's not anything close to the majority.
00:22:58.160 But there's a not insignificant contingent of First Nations people there.
00:23:01.800 As much as some of the government press tries to ignore that that's a fact. 0.94
00:23:06.340 But are they literally going to go around and start checking the color of people's skin here to see if they can be removed?
00:23:12.080 That's just a case of another example of how woke this government is, how woke Justin Trudeau is.
00:23:18.080 You know, we're certainly a long way away from sunny days of 2000 and sunny waves of 2015, aren't we?
00:23:27.480 Oh, it's just long lost.
00:23:29.460 He's a vindictive, angry man. 0.79
00:23:32.380 There's something wrong with him.
00:23:33.460 I lost faith in Canada quite a while ago, but this just shows there really is no institutional
00:23:43.980 protections against tyranny in this country.
00:23:46.200 You can just do anything.
00:23:47.200 If you have a government, it used to be just a majority government, and Trudeau effectively
00:23:50.860 has a majority government because the NDP will back them on virtually anything as long
00:23:54.180 as it goes further in that more extreme direction.
00:23:57.760 It's baffling to me.
00:23:59.320 I was watching Tucker Carlson, his monologue last night, and he said, you know, Canada's fallen.
00:24:07.280 It's gone.
00:24:08.620 Like, it used to be a couple months ago, we'd all chuckle at Australia.
00:24:11.740 Look at these guys.
00:24:12.660 They're back in a prison colony.
00:24:16.500 Well, now who's chuckling at us?
00:24:18.720 They didn't even implement martial law in order to do that or an emergencies act or measures.
00:24:23.520 You know, all the things you want to call it.
00:24:24.600 I mean, it's a suspension of civil rights that, again, it's not justified.
00:24:28.800 Not even close.
00:24:29.580 We're a penal colony now without the nice weather.
00:24:32.200 It's absolute madness.
00:24:34.960 Okay, well, there's been some movement on the border blockades.
00:24:39.420 Coutts, Ambassador Bridge, I believe, one in Manitoba.
00:24:43.360 Yeah, so why don't you give us an update, Dave?
00:24:45.240 Sure.
00:24:45.540 There was an RCMP release on Monday, I believe, about a caster of weapons being discovered in Coutts.
00:24:54.520 Not an insignificant amount of weapons either.
00:24:56.700 handguns, what looked like automatic, semi-automatic weapons, body armor.
00:25:07.760 This was, 11 people were arrested.
00:25:11.200 Nobody from the truckers group really knows who they were, they weren't part of the overall
00:25:17.540 group.
00:25:18.540 They just came in, they were obviously interlopers, you know, had their own experience.
00:25:21.940 Yeah, our reporters who have developed pretty close relationships and know people on the ground here, according to all of our sources, protesters on the ground, blockaders, whatever you want to call them, they didn't know who any of these people were.
00:25:33.000 No. Right after the announcement, the real convoy organizers down there met, and I think they got the sense that we've lost sort of moral high ground with this now. We cannot be associated with this type of action.
00:25:48.280 So they decided to remove their barricades.
00:25:52.160 So they came down.
00:25:53.660 The one in Emerson, it came down this morning.
00:25:56.960 The final trucks left there.
00:25:59.620 And the Ambassador Bridge was cleared out fairly easily and without drama on Saturday or Sunday morning on the weekend.
00:26:08.800 So right now there are no border blockades in the country.
00:26:12.440 The only protest going on, the only major protest going on is the one in Ottawa.
00:26:21.560 But, you know, as Corey said on his show today, this is the weekend to get out there and show your support for the convoy
00:26:28.240 and your disdain for the martial law that, you know, people have to take to the streets.
00:26:33.380 Basically, I mean, we've been doing it right so far, and it has been shaking up the government.
00:26:37.300 It has. I mean, they're shaking. They're panicked.
00:26:39.440 And they're panicked by peaceful protest.
00:26:41.480 We can keep peacefully pressuring these guys, you know, don't let this, in my view, I mean, this is my activist coming out.
00:26:47.600 I'm going out this weekend.
00:26:49.060 I'll be out this Saturday.
00:26:49.980 I'll find a protest.
00:26:52.060 Well, and that's how you keep the moral high ground. 0.56
00:26:54.040 I mean, as soon as you start acting like BLM goons and going around, breaking windows, lighting something on fire, you lose the moral high ground. 0.64
00:27:03.280 And those guys might get a pass.
00:27:04.800 I mean, those guys can burn down cities in the United States, hence declared mostly peaceful.
00:27:09.240 and guys who are supporting lifting restrictions
00:27:12.860 can set up a hot tub at a bouncy castle
00:27:14.640 and it's called, you know, a Nuremberg rally.
00:27:17.320 And the ones that could, as Dave said,
00:27:18.700 they're reasonable.
00:27:19.340 I mean, they saw the other stuff that,
00:27:20.480 oh, man, okay, this is getting beyond our control.
00:27:22.480 This isn't what we wanted to start.
00:27:24.000 We don't want violence.
00:27:25.060 We don't want problems.
00:27:25.540 You know what?
00:27:25.880 We can't seem to separate the wheat from the chaff here, 0.99
00:27:28.500 so we're just going to disband this one.
00:27:30.580 I don't think they're done protesting.
00:27:32.020 They're just done with that.
00:27:33.020 Yeah.
00:27:33.500 I think you'll see rolling convoys, you know,
00:27:37.160 down at the border.
00:27:37.860 they don't they wouldn't stop they wouldn't blockade they could just drive them slowly
00:27:41.860 in circles yeah there's lots of things to be done but they can do it around major cities and things
00:27:45.780 like that uh there are things that i yeah i don't think we've seen the last of them i i think the
00:27:51.060 freedom block convoys which became freedom blockades are becoming probably become just convoys
00:27:55.860 again exactly yeah and there's less opportunity in a convoy for someone who's looking for trouble
00:28:01.620 Like these guys who, you know, got busted with a, I always like it when the press say a large cache of guns and ammunition.
00:28:09.820 And I'm like, it's not that much.
00:28:12.700 But, I mean, it was.
00:28:14.480 The context of where it was is distressing.
00:28:16.320 It was.
00:28:16.940 It's not more than I take out to shoot a goose with or something.
00:28:21.100 It was.
00:28:22.300 You wouldn't shoot a goose wearing body armor.
00:28:24.820 I've had some pretty mean geese.
00:28:26.200 You ever fought a goose?
00:28:27.400 I know they're mean.
00:28:28.360 They're mean.
00:28:28.780 I always wear full body armor when I go goose hunting.
00:28:33.940 Okay.
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00:30:19.180 Blackford.
00:30:21.100 You know what? 1.00
00:30:22.460 Screw you, Laclebiche. 1.00
00:30:24.840 I've got it out for you. 1.00
00:30:26.280 I'm sorry.
00:30:26.760 I love Laclebiche.
00:30:27.740 Okay.
00:30:29.460 It's a French name.
00:30:30.500 I don't know why they have to get a French name.
00:30:32.000 I don't know.
00:30:32.920 Anyway, before I get in trouble, let's move on.
00:30:35.880 It's your turn to get in trouble.
00:30:37.800 Who's going to discipline me?
00:30:42.420 It's the whole reason I started to stand back up.
00:30:44.440 No one can tell me what to do.
00:30:47.880 Okay.
00:30:48.420 So, you know, bioactions are often interesting.
00:30:50.760 Some more than others.
00:30:52.740 Normally a by-election in a safe seat for any party is not that interesting.
00:30:58.980 The most interesting by-election in the recent history of Alberta had a familiar name in it in, I think, 2009 or 10.
00:31:09.880 A guy by the name of Paul Hinman.
00:31:11.900 He was the outgoing leader of something called the Wild Rose Party at the time.
00:31:16.600 He ran in Calgary, Glenmore, and at a north.
00:31:20.220 He defeated the PCs.
00:31:21.360 The PCs fell from first, third, liberals, second.
00:31:24.440 Paul Hinman entered as the first Wild Rose Party member of the legislature.
00:31:29.680 You know, he's since lost a seat after.
00:31:32.920 He's now the leader of the Wild Rose Independence Party.
00:31:36.260 And so he's running there.
00:31:38.900 So we'll get to him in a bit.
00:31:40.420 But that's just kind of teeing up that there is a history of some interesting by-elections.
00:31:45.500 And the most interesting guy for the most interesting by-election is running in this one, too.
00:31:51.660 But, Dave, why don't you tell us what also makes this by-election so interesting?
00:31:55.620 Well, the fact that the UCP candidate wants to remove Kenny from power.
00:32:01.340 As you said, Derek, unprecedented in our history.
00:32:07.180 Brian Jean has been running a SNARK campaign or whatever you want to call it for months now.
00:32:14.500 Four years.
00:32:15.500 Four years.
00:32:16.500 Four years.
00:32:17.500 You remember he lost the leadership race for the UCP to Jason Kenney.
00:32:23.260 So he won the nomination up there in the UCP colors.
00:32:29.580 So you've got a candidate for a party, a governing party who wants the leader removed.
00:32:36.060 Very, very, very, very strange.
00:32:38.260 You mentioned Paul Hinman.
00:32:40.980 I think secretly, Jason Kenney would probably hope the NDP would win over Brian Jean.
00:32:50.220 I had an exclusive interview with the Premier late last week, and I asked him,
00:32:56.140 I'm like, well, any plans to go out there for the UCP candidate and do some campaigning?
00:33:01.280 No.
00:33:02.140 The short answer was basically no.
00:33:03.740 I listened to the audio of that after.
00:33:05.000 He didn't say the word no, but it was a lot of, well, I haven't thought that far ahead in my schedules, full, and, you know, I've got a budget to prepare, a throne speech.
00:33:14.440 I've got to see a man about a horse.
00:33:15.800 Yeah.
00:33:16.600 You can take it to the bank, and you're not going to see Jason Kenney in Fort McMurray or Laklovich during the campaign.
00:33:24.700 So it's going to be interesting.
00:33:27.860 It's going to be an interesting – March 15th is the vote date.
00:33:31.620 So we're not even going to talk about the NDP candidate here.
00:33:34.260 I could be wrong, but the NDP is not going to win there.
00:33:38.400 But you've got, I guess, so there's going to, the Alberta party doesn't have a candidate yet.
00:33:42.420 But the media obsess about the Alberta party.
00:33:45.020 They're just consistently a nothing.
00:33:47.080 The Liberals, I don't know if they're even technically alive.
00:33:52.780 I think David Kahn has just got the casket that far closed on before he left the leadership of the Liberals.
00:33:57.020 No, no, I think it's already got nails.
00:33:58.360 And the question is, have they encased it in a pyramid yet?
00:34:02.820 Yeah.
00:34:04.260 Cement sarcophagus.
00:34:05.600 Yeah, so forget them.
00:34:07.940 Then the Alberta Advantage party. 1.00
00:34:09.740 Oh, yeah, Marilyn Burns is running up there as well. 1.00
00:34:12.760 Something. 1.00
00:34:14.220 There's only two that worry about.
00:34:16.440 Only two that worry about.
00:34:17.560 Well, there's three that are worth concerning over it all.
00:34:24.400 The UCP with Brian Jean is an ADP candidate.
00:34:26.840 I think she's a school teacher or something.
00:34:28.000 I don't recall her name.
00:34:29.100 And then Wildrose is Paul Hinman.
00:34:30.340 And I don't realistically think Paul is likely to win there.
00:34:37.240 In another circumstance, he might be able to.
00:34:40.380 But when you've got all three significant candidates who are all opposed to Jason Kenney,
00:34:47.880 the Wild Rose Party is opposed to him from the right, the MVP is opposed to him from the left,
00:34:53.800 and Brian Jean is opposed to him from inside the UCP,
00:34:58.120 If you're anti-Jason Kenney, you've got so many places to cast your vote.
00:35:04.260 So, Corey, do you think that just takes too much of the wind out of Wild Rose's sails to be able to capitalize there,
00:35:10.120 if you could vote UCP and still vote against Kenney?
00:35:12.340 Yeah, it makes it very tough.
00:35:13.600 I mean, I worked on that campaign when Paul won back in 2010, and the theme of it was send Ed a message.
00:35:20.420 It was what Ed's still not.
00:35:21.400 Yeah.
00:35:21.760 And you only had one real solid candidate to do that.
00:35:25.780 You know, you had Diane Collier-Cart and Paul Hinman, and then you started getting liberal in the NDP beyond that.
00:35:31.960 But if you were conservative, you were discontent with the leadership, you had that option to put that vote towards.
00:35:36.600 And that's what happened. They went to Paul.
00:35:38.460 And in this case, as you said, the discontented UCP members know that the middle finger that could send Kenny might even be bigger by voting for the UCP than by voting for Paul.
00:35:48.860 And that's what makes this so bizarre.
00:35:50.140 And it makes it more difficult for Paul to carve a wedge.
00:35:52.640 The only thing that stands out, though, is Paul is a tireless campaigner.
00:35:56.400 He's been up there for a month and some already.
00:35:58.440 He's been beating those doors.
00:35:59.700 He works the ground like nobody else.
00:36:02.460 But if you're getting that public feel and attention and media,
00:36:06.840 it's going to be very difficult for him to surpass it.
00:36:09.820 I mean, I never like to underestimate it, but it's going to be a tough one.
00:36:12.560 Well, let's play a fun scenario.
00:36:14.460 Let's assume that Brian Jean wins.
00:36:17.200 What does Kenny do?
00:36:19.740 I don't know.
00:36:22.640 I'm astounded that he is the official candidate.
00:36:25.440 Okay.
00:36:26.160 Yeah, you said he was going to lose.
00:36:27.380 Yeah, we talked a while back.
00:36:27.960 No, no, I didn't say he was going to lose.
00:36:29.140 You said it was never going to happen.
00:36:29.460 No, I said it was never going to happen.
00:36:30.740 Right.
00:36:31.260 And technically, I'm not yet wrong.
00:36:34.020 No, we've got 28 days now.
00:36:35.680 Yeah, no, no.
00:36:37.540 Technically, it looks unlikely to happen, but technically, at any moment, he can just not sign his papers.
00:36:47.120 He can fire him as the UCB candidate and appoint his own.
00:36:50.100 Now, Gene would then run as an independent, and then, well, then we're splitting the vote.
00:36:54.060 God knows how many ways.
00:36:55.140 Who knows what happens.
00:36:56.300 Then maybe Paul's got a chance.
00:36:57.840 And then maybe the NDP's got a chance.
00:37:00.500 I mean, who knows?
00:37:02.120 I don't think that's likely to happen.
00:37:05.000 It's just no one can eat.
00:37:07.000 There was not a single candidate on the UCP ticket in the last election who did not have his personal blessing.
00:37:12.540 Some of them were not his very first choices, but he was at least okay with all of them.
00:37:16.760 Most of them were even his first choices.
00:37:17.940 But Gene was in such a weird position, because if he would have discounted or disqualified
00:37:27.000 Gene from being allowed to run for the UCP nomination, well then Gene would have run
00:37:31.320 as an independent, or maybe Wildrose, who knows, and very possibly won there.
00:37:37.400 They were counting on their candidate, what was his name, I can't remember, Joshua, the
00:37:46.080 a favorite Kenny candidate, recruited by Casey Maddow, they thought he was going to win,
00:37:51.560 and then he didn't.
00:37:52.900 And he got not just lost, he got smeared in the nomination.
00:37:56.140 I mean, he just got totally annihilated.
00:37:58.480 It wasn't a goal.
00:37:58.880 Yeah.
00:37:59.480 So what does Kenny do?
00:38:02.940 I mean, it's such an insane position.
00:38:04.400 And the timing isn't going to be any worse either.
00:38:06.180 So, you know, assuming it's Brian Jean, the thing is, no matter what happens, whoever
00:38:10.040 wins this by-election, Jason Kenny still loses. 0.84
00:38:12.220 He's the guaranteed loser.
00:38:14.340 NDP, you know, in that long shot that that gets in, that freaks out all the UCP voters to say, 0.93
00:38:20.320 if we keep Kenny, we're getting Notley back.
00:38:22.640 If Paul wins, it's saying the UCP, again, almost similarly, is so split with the right and everything,
00:38:28.160 we're going to get Notley back. 0.97
00:38:29.200 And if Gene wins, well, then you've got this thorn in Kenny's butt. 0.98
00:38:32.400 Three weeks from Kenny's leadership review, he's screwed. 0.96
00:38:36.280 I'm projecting right now, Kenny loses the by-election.
00:38:40.680 There's a safe prediction.
00:38:41.660 Oh, but, you know, you had a point, Dave.
00:38:44.880 I want to pick this up.
00:38:46.900 I think his least losing option is the NDP.
00:38:52.300 If Wildrose, Wildrose is highly unlikely, but let's just say hypothetically, because they'll probably pay place respectively, but probably not going to be enough to win anything like that.
00:39:01.220 But if they won, well, then you have a visible representation of the Wild Rose back in the legislature in the face of the United Conservative Party.
00:39:11.840 It shows that there would be hemorrhaging support to the right.
00:39:15.020 It would further damage his leadership.
00:39:16.820 People could say, look, we can't do this again.
00:39:19.960 You got to go.
00:39:21.160 And send a message to the feds.
00:39:22.740 And send a message to the federal conservatives and federal liberals.
00:39:26.160 But I'll be very worried about that.
00:39:28.100 Brian Jean wins.
00:39:28.940 We just talked about that. 0.53
00:39:29.820 I mean, you'd have a bull in the China shop of caucus.
00:39:33.420 He's not just another dissenter like some of the current MLAs who are unhappy and want to change out of the leadership.
00:39:39.140 You'd have Brian Jeanin elected on a mandate to get rid of him right before the leadership race.
00:39:45.020 The NDP, well, it was unlucky.
00:39:49.740 Bob Rose split the vote, and this just shows why Bob Rose has got to go away.
00:39:53.940 We've got to unite.
00:39:56.040 What are your thoughts?
00:39:57.460 What's the best case?
00:39:58.420 I think that is the best case.
00:40:01.680 You know, one more NDP.
00:40:04.380 That's right.
00:40:04.780 Governments tend not to win by elections overall.
00:40:07.860 Well, except in safe seats.
00:40:09.100 And this was a safe UCB seat.
00:40:11.440 They were in the high 60s or 70s when they won this.
00:40:13.680 Yeah.
00:40:15.140 I think Kenny just may go bury his head in the pillow and go into the fetal position on March 15th.
00:40:22.080 There is really no good scenarios.
00:40:24.740 No, and I haven't looked into when is the legislative stage scheduled.
00:40:28.420 I'm guessing that
00:40:31.380 if I'm going to guess, I don't even know if they've said yet
00:40:33.660 but I'm going to guess it's not until after the leadership
00:40:35.600 review is over. There's no way Kenny is going to
00:40:37.540 be dealing with the legislature while he's
00:40:39.160 well that's what I mean. So I mean the thing is you can still
00:40:41.500 keep it I guess try and keep it a little quiet
00:40:43.440 while Gene is in assuming it's him
00:40:45.540 is not in the legislature
00:40:47.480 you know sitting amongst
00:40:49.500 your caucus. I mean basically whispering
00:40:51.420 in each ear and starting the caucus revolt
00:40:53.260 you won't have those options. I wonder if there's any
00:40:55.200 tricks he can play to prevent him from being
00:40:57.460 sworn in until the legislature comes back, and therefore not be an official member of
00:41:02.520 the caucus?
00:41:03.520 Possible.
00:41:04.520 One of the spokes in the spanner, in the wheel, is the budget.
00:41:09.280 We're going to have a good news budget because of the soaring oil prices, and he's going
00:41:13.600 to have money to throw around, and I'm going to assume he wants to do that before he can
00:41:17.700 live.
00:41:18.700 Yeah, so he would have to bring the legislature back in to do that.
00:41:22.220 Yeah.
00:41:23.220 Well, actually, no, government's going to announce things all the time.
00:41:26.620 can announce things you just can't necessarily actually if they want to get good news out they
00:41:31.080 can leak it that's a great way to do it uh if you're watching right now uh yeah pre-mckinney
00:41:36.300 if you're watching right now and you you want to get this budget news out before the legislature
00:41:39.920 comes just uh let's talk sure yeah nice job last week actually i thought it was an amicable interview
00:41:48.040 i thought it was very interesting got some questions he's probably not used to getting
00:41:52.020 from uh the mainstream press okay well uh let's wrap it up there uh dave and corey thank you
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