Western Standard - The Pipeline： May 12, 2021

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00:03:00.000 Good day. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard. Welcome to The Pipeline.

00:03:23.000 Today is May 12th, 2021.

00:03:27.120 We've got a great show for you today.

00:03:29.140 I'm joined in the studio by Western Standard, Alberta political columnist and host of the

00:03:35.140 Corey Morgan Show, none other than Corey Morgan.

00:03:38.620 Good day, Corey.

00:03:39.260 Good day.

00:03:40.600 And Dave Naylor, news editor of the Western Standard, coming to us from beautiful British

00:03:45.640 Columbia.

00:03:46.680 We'll be returning back to the Western Standard mothership in downtown Calgary.

00:03:51.400 very soon. I think next week we'll have you back on the show from here. How are you doing, Dave?

00:03:56.420 I'm good. I've almost served my time, Derek, heading home.

00:04:00.320 Wow, we miss you in Wild Rose Country. Before we get started, we want to thank all of our members

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00:04:46.460 Well, let's dive straight into it.

00:04:48.980 uh very crazy uh weekend the federal the alberta government cracking down cracking down hard uh

00:04:58.260 now saying that uh scoff laws that do not respect uh the lockdown uh even for such thing as your

00:05:07.140 charter protected uh right to free speech and free assembly will not be accepted uh so dave why don't

00:05:14.420 you uh i guess there's been quite a bit of it here there's arrests and fines galore we've had

00:05:22.020 pastor uh arthur uh pulowski arrested in calgary we've had the whistle stop owner uh chris scott

00:05:29.700 arrested and ty northcott the um organizer of the rogue rodeo in bowdoin uh all faith all either

00:05:38.260 arrested or facing summons uh dave rather than us going through each one uh altogether maybe

00:05:44.100 Maybe we'll just package this crackdown all together.

00:05:47.280 Why don't you set it up for us?

00:05:49.520 Yeah, it's been a busy week for the Alberta authorities, Derek.

00:05:53.940 As you mentioned, started a couple of weeks ago with the No More Lockdowns Rodeo.

00:05:58.180 That drew 4,000 people to Bowdoin.

00:06:01.240 The next week, the RCMP descended twice on Chris Scott's Whistle Stop Cafe

00:06:06.920 in small-town rural Mirror, Alberta.

00:06:11.340 The first time, they took away all this booze.

00:06:13.780 It was like a scene from the Prohibition.

00:06:16.680 A couple of days later, they arrived at dawn and padlocked his house.

00:06:21.100 People were angry about that.

00:06:23.400 They decided they were going to hold a protest that weekend on the grounds of the Whistle Stop Cafe.

00:06:31.080 Alberta government wanted to get out in front of that.

00:06:34.320 So they went to the Court of Queen's Bench in Edmonton, and the justice there issued an injunction saying the upcoming event at the

00:06:43.520 mirror cafe would be illegal and in fact all events in alberta would be illegal organizers

00:06:50.640 faced immediate arrest and so the warning shot was given didn't stop 1500 people from showing

00:06:58.720 up in mirror on saturday for a full day protest at the end of the day once everybody had left and

00:07:06.240 went home rcmp put handcuffs on chris scott the organizer and owner of the whistle stop a couple

00:07:14.320 hours before that arthur palowski a calgary pastor who's been a thorn in the side of authorities

00:07:21.760 since day one he kept holding packed churches packed church services he was taken out of his

00:07:29.760 car in the middle of 17th avenue police waited until after he drove away from his church so there

00:07:37.360 was nobody around in terms of followers they got him out of his vehicle he knelt in the middle of

00:07:43.760 busy 17th avenue they handcuffed him and he refused to stand to walk to the police car he

00:07:50.320 said do it the nazi way and so they did they dragged him feet trailing on the road so

00:07:56.160 So, and then just on Monday, the organizer of the No More Lockdowns Rodeo, Rancher Ty Northcott,

00:08:05.460 he received a visit from the RCMP and he and his wife were charged under Public Health Act,

00:08:13.460 as was the rodeo itself, Northcott Rodeo.

00:08:17.900 So they've got a court date later on this month.

00:08:21.100 so uh lots of people rounded up and uh the crackdown that's uh that was promised has finally

00:08:27.580 arrived uh derek well it uh does seem to be here uh you know i've said this before i'll say it

00:08:36.300 again if you want to know what jason kenney is going to do a week from now listen to what

00:08:40.220 rachel notley is saying today uh rachel notley was uh demanding that the province uh crack down

00:08:48.860 and start more rigorous enforcement of the cabinet orders surrounding lockdowns and

00:08:55.420 bans on protests, things like that. We saw an unprecedented ex parte court injunction against

00:09:04.300 the protest at the whistle stop. Again, on private property. I have never in my life ever heard

00:09:10.360 of a protest or demonstration being banned on private property where the private property

00:09:16.700 owner is welcoming it to happen. I've never heard about that in the history of Canada.

00:09:21.940 Maybe it's happened at some point during the world war when governments are also a bit more

00:09:27.060 loosey-goosey with our civil liberties, but the Alberta government does seem now hell-bent

00:09:34.780 on trying to regain its power here. People are questioning the very right of government to do

00:09:42.520 things right now. Most of the time in Canada, when we're having a debate on any of these kinds

00:09:50.040 of issues, it's a debate on should government do something, not does government have any legitimate

00:09:55.900 right to do this. And so I think a lot of people, myself included, question the very legitimacy of

00:10:04.060 the government to do these things when they're taking actions that flagrantly violates basic

00:10:10.860 liberties and the constitution, as I see it at least. Why do you think the government is cracking

00:10:16.980 down so hard right now, Corey? Simply because they're going to look like they're doing something.

00:10:20.800 Everybody's screaming, do something, do something, do something. I blame part of it on our Canadian, 0.98

00:10:26.020 unfortunately, attitude of we feel the state has to protect us from everything. They have the power.

00:10:31.820 It's almost this childlike dream thinking the state can do something about it. That's the

00:10:36.820 the problem. So infections are going up. Of course, the media is reporting, I mean,

00:10:40.680 the most haywire statistics to make it look like the world is coming to an end and forgetting to

00:10:44.500 report that virtually nobody's dying from COVID anymore. Yet it's raised panic and it's raised

00:10:50.580 fear and people are legitimately scared. So, I mean, I can't imagine what the inboxes are for

00:10:54.480 the politicians, for their aides, everybody else is coming in from people saying, heavens,

00:10:59.120 do something. So he's come in and he's done something. Whether it's going to have any

00:11:03.240 impact? No, it's had a huge impact on our civil rights. We're seeing, I mean, so keep this in 0.85

00:11:08.680 mind and let's record this right now. The infections even were plateauing before these

00:11:13.520 restrictions, the latest ones came in. So before you start giving them credit for this thing,

00:11:17.500 starting to plateau and go down, it was happening before we shut down all the restaurants and

00:11:21.440 everything else. Jason Kenney bristled quite a bit about that when he was asked about it at

00:11:24.680 yesterday's press conference, actually. They're desperate. I think they just have to look like

00:11:28.700 they're doing something. And I think the fact that they do is kind of so grudgingly is that

00:11:32.460 they know it's not going to be of much effect, but they're doing it for political reasons rather

00:11:35.960 than real ones. Yeah. They know that, I mean, well, this is kind of a good segue into probably

00:11:47.160 our next segment. They know this is not actually doing anything. It's just a matter of maintaining

00:11:54.080 perception. They know this is not going to increase compliance. Lockdowns are only effective

00:11:58.860 if you've got about 99% plus of the population voluntarily taking part in it, if you've got even

00:12:04.920 five or 10%, then they're useless already. But when you've got, you know, I chance to say 40%

00:12:12.480 actively hostile and disobeying, leave Calgary at Edmonton, pretty much no one's wearing a mask

00:12:18.820 unless they're actually at risk and it might actually be helpful for them. Everybody's having

00:12:24.920 people over to their home who they're not legally allowed to have over to their home.

00:12:29.500 You've got probably 40% actively resisting and probably another 20% that just don't really

00:12:36.400 care anymore, but they're not going to make us think about it. So you've got, there really is

00:12:42.440 no way to enforce compliance. There's not enough police on the planet to stand inside every home

00:12:48.240 and force us at gunpoint to comply. It's just not going to work.

00:12:51.560 Yeah, well, those of us who remember that the first real lockdown was last spring.

00:12:54.820 When everybody was scared, we didn't know.

00:12:56.200 We thought this could be something really horrible coming.

00:12:58.360 It was horrible, but it was nothing like we were warned.

00:13:00.760 There was none of the 30,000 people dead or any of that.

00:13:03.240 But the streets back then were ghostly.

00:13:05.280 I mean, you would go out and the traffic on a weekday, midday was empty.

00:13:09.360 Go outside today.

00:13:10.100 Come on.

00:13:10.420 It looks barely any different than it does any other day, except for all the out of business

00:13:14.500 signs and all the restaurants and stores as you drive down the streets.

00:13:17.200 But otherwise, people are out, they're about, they're visiting, they're interacting.

00:13:21.560 again, the impacts of these restrictions are negligible.

00:13:26.980 Yeah. Well, let's, I think that's a good segue to our next topic. Dave, you've made some

00:13:36.460 annoying phone calls to Alberta Health Services. That is the agency that is a part of the Alberta

00:13:42.380 government reporting to the Minister of Health. That's largely spearheading much of the crackdown

00:13:48.780 here they were they're the one who received uh applied for the injunction to ban the protest

00:13:53.260 in mirror alberta and other protests around alberta um but you've got um they've come back

00:14:01.580 and said uh quite grudgingly i think but uh admitted uh that there has been no covid 19

00:14:08.860 cases linked to the rogue rodeo in bowden uh why don't you tell us about uh what it is you found

00:14:15.580 out from them and maybe elaborate on what it is they said. Yeah, the AHS banned large gatherings

00:14:24.680 because they feared super spreader events, you know, where everybody's at close quarters and

00:14:31.000 it would spread like wildfire. There are 4,000 people at the Bowdoin Rodeo, the No More Lockdowns

00:14:38.600 Rodeo over two days. I wasn't there, you guys were, but I don't think there were too many masks

00:14:44.640 being worn there, but when we checked with AHS yesterday, 10 days after the event, nine days

00:14:51.360 after the event, they said there has been no cases yet linked to those 4,000 people, but, and they

00:14:59.620 did say a but, there's no reason that there couldn't have been asymptomatic people going

00:15:04.860 around infecting everybody and not knowing it, and they say that for the most part, the COVID

00:15:12.280 virus takes about 14 days to uh to percolate through the system and uh before you're becoming

00:15:19.000 sick so they've grudgingly admitted it's a big uh big zero at the moment derek uh uh but they're

00:15:25.240 they keep throwing out these butts it could happen but this about that but uh at the moment it's zero

00:15:31.000 cases linked to the rodeo well um that's uh not quite the super spreader event that they were

00:15:39.720 saying. I remember you had Ryan Jespersen, people on the CBC, the politicians saying that everybody

00:15:46.720 who went, which I suppose includes you and I, Corey, are murderers. We have blood on our hands.

00:15:51.960 You had Drew Farrell, a city councillor in Calgary, trying to see if it was possible to

00:15:58.460 charge people with manslaughter for these events. Absolutely wild stuff. Turns out it was just a

00:16:05.320 rodeo. My pillow was tear-stained with knowing I was such a murderous, terrible person that night,

00:16:10.700 but I got older. How can you live with Drew Farrell thinking that about you? I try not to

00:16:15.300 think of Drew thinking about me. Yeah, so as you said, Dave, there was nary a mask in sight. I think

00:16:23.080 I saw one or two people wearing them, and that's their choice. They decided they're on private

00:16:31.080 property, and they decided as free people that they wanted to attend, but that they were going

00:16:36.300 to wear a mask, and that was fine. But other than them, the only people I saw wearing masks

00:16:42.220 were not actually there. They were CBC and CTV camera crews standing in the ditch without another

00:16:49.000 human within 500 meters of them. I don't know if they thought they were going to get COVID from

00:16:53.080 the cows. I don't know how they thought they were going to get infected, but everybody's sitting

00:16:58.800 around there. I mean, I suppose we could still have a case emerge from it. But at this point,

00:17:04.500 there does not appear to be a single case linked to it. Seems it was fair. You know, I was talking

00:17:10.640 with Kelly Kryman. She's a correspondent at the Globe and Mail. And I talked about this should be

00:17:18.000 about everyone's own individual risk tolerance. We shouldn't be irresponsible. We shouldn't do

00:17:22.700 something that is likely to get you infected. But you have to have a risk tolerance if you're going

00:17:26.680 to live your life with any sense of normality. What I said was, look, if that rodeo was indoors,

00:17:33.120 that probably would have been beyond my own risk tolerance. I would have supported the right of

00:17:38.880 others to go to it, but it would have been beyond my risk tolerance. But outdoors, it seemed perfectly

00:17:44.700 fine to me. Dave, have we heard anything from Jason Kenney, Rachel Notley, or Dina Hinshaw yet

00:17:51.680 about this super spreader rodeo?

00:17:55.260 No, you've just had the Jason Kenney comments

00:17:58.520 to his caucus the day,

00:18:02.740 the Sunday that the rodeo event wrapped up.

00:18:07.080 The famous, I want a new base comments. 1.00

00:18:10.580 Rachel Notley was jumping over herself in glee

00:18:13.240 when the rest started happening on the weekend.

00:18:18.220 She was praising it and saying it's about time.

00:18:21.980 And Dina Hinshaw has been fairly quiet, mainly because the mainstream media who get to ask questions at these things haven't asked her about it yet.

00:18:32.360 But we'll continue to try, Derek.

00:18:36.160 Well, I know that Jason Kenney has never taken a question of yours at a press conference.

00:18:42.900 But if you do manage to get a question in the somewhat near future, Dave, let's make sure you ask him if he has anything to say to the people that he called disturbing, selfish, and several other schoolyard names that he called the people who attended in light of there being no infections.

00:19:05.220 And I will state for the record here now that if infections are, in fact, confirmed to be linked to the rodeo, we will talk about this, even though this is something I know that maybe doesn't fit with what I want to be the case.

00:19:22.080 I want, you know, it's in our Western Standards Mission Statement that we will tell the truth

00:19:26.640 even when it hurts. And that would be truth that hurts. It's not something that I want to be in

00:19:31.800 the news. But if there is a COVID case that is linked to the rodeo, we will talk about it.

00:19:38.000 Unlike our government funded competitors who have utterly ignored, 100% ignored

00:19:44.600 AHS statements, now that we've put this story out there, that there's been no cases linked to this.

00:19:54.600 Maybe they will pick it up at some point. I'm not too optimistic.

00:19:57.660 No, well, and, you know, I want to go as far as Minister Matt, who said the other day,

00:20:02.480 but I think there was a lot of people who wouldn't have been too sad if it had turned into a super spreader event.

00:20:07.100 They wanted something to point to.

00:20:08.140 They wanted to say, I told you so.

00:20:09.520 And, you know, I'm not saying they're really wishing death on people,

00:20:12.540 but they wanted to say, see these guys were irresponsible and there's a price. So rest

00:20:15.800 assured if there's anything that could link to it, we would be hearing about it, not just

00:20:19.000 from us, but from everybody else. But you know what? I'm trying to think of any outdoor

00:20:24.120 event that turned into a super spreader one that all the, you know, the doomsayers freaked

00:20:28.860 out and said would happen. I mean, remember Sylvan Lake last summer when people went out

00:20:32.120 and Notley was again doing cartwheels. I mean, her hair was standing on end almost. Oh my

00:20:36.100 God, there's going to be a super, it didn't happen. We saw that with Super Bowl. It didn't

00:20:39.740 happen. We saw 40,000 people at a Texan baseball game. It didn't happen. These outdoor super

00:20:44.540 spreaders don't happen. And that's part of what some people are almost disappointed with. Not so

00:20:48.940 much. They didn't hate the rodeo so much that they feared people would be harmed, but that they would

00:20:52.580 be proven wrong again. One of the stories I did this week, guys, was comparing Alberta to Texas

00:21:00.660 and how Texas is now wide open and their infections are dropping drastically, as are

00:21:08.320 their hospitalizations and and death rates i know it on the weekend on saturday the uh

00:21:14.000 the house that jerry jones built the stadium there in uh near dallas 70 000 people crammed

00:21:20.800 into it for a world championship boxing match and uh nary a uh covet case out of that so far

00:21:28.320 Sure. Well, speaking of, you know, I think the need for media to tell the truth and actually

00:21:41.360 speak up on issues, regardless of what government wants us to do, that's, I like a good segue.

00:21:47.640 That's, I think, a decent segue into Bill C-10. Bill C-10 is the, it's a bill put forward by the

00:21:55.700 federal liberal government under Trudeau, but it's being pushed forward by Minister Jebeau.

00:22:04.640 I think he's from Montreal. He is the heritage minister. And this bill, I think many of our

00:22:10.660 listeners have probably already heard of this bill. It is seeking to regulate digital broadcasting

00:22:18.840 under the CRTC, the Canadian Radio Television Commission, if I got that right,

00:22:26.920 bring it under the CRTC and start regulating it as terribly as we're already regulating

00:22:33.840 television and radio to start treating them like that. He's saying, oh, this is just about

00:22:41.100 Canadian content and blah, blah, blah. I mean, that's ridiculous in and of itself. If something's 0.92

00:22:48.060 good we're going to listen to it if it's crappy well you can listen to it on the cbc you know

00:22:52.480 we don't need canadian content rules we've got we've had canada's produced a lot of great artists

00:22:57.180 and great not too many great shows actually um we've had the odd little uh we've had the odd

00:23:02.360 one that's done well schitt's creek was outstanding schitt's creek was great trailer park boys it's

00:23:07.520 my cup of tea uh maybe not yours but there's some talent if people would have made those things

00:23:11.180 without yeah that's a bigger discussion but yeah we have talent we don't need the government to

00:23:15.700 Yeah, but the concern now is that this bill is quite explicitly going to regulate social media accounts.

00:23:25.280 So if you're, you know, they've kind of waffled back and forth through committees and whatnot and different amendments.

00:23:31.520 But essentially the bill as it stands now is going to directly regulate not just digital broadcasters like the Western Standard that don't do formal television cable.

00:23:45.160 We don't do radio. We don't do that. I made a conscious decision. I've had a lot of people try

00:23:51.620 to approach us about maybe investing in that area. And I've said, no, I will never work in

00:23:56.320 a regulated industry under something like the CRTC as long as I am a owner of the Western

00:24:02.540 Standard. It's not happening. But now they're going to start regulating things like the Western

00:24:10.020 Standard since we're a company. And even individuals who aren't a company, but they

00:24:14.320 just happen to have a lot of subscribers on YouTube or a lot of likes on Facebook. It's

00:24:19.080 madness. But this bill has attracted a lot of attention. The minister Jabot says, I never

00:24:25.880 know if I'm pronouncing that name right. That's a tough one. But let's call him Jabot. He has

00:24:34.000 said that the whole controversy about this is a conspiracy of big corporate interests.

00:24:40.060 That's quite bizarre since it's actually the big corporate interests that are already regulated by

00:24:44.080 the CRTC, the Rogers, the Shaws, the Taluses, CBC, CTV, all of these big conglomerates,

00:24:51.640 they're the ones who actually want this to happen because they don't like their competitors being

00:24:55.200 out there unregulated. Dave, why don't you tell us if I've missed any background on this bill and

00:25:01.620 what it means, and why don't you tell us where it's at now that it's hit a snag in the committee?

00:25:07.080 Yeah, you know what, Derek? I'm as confused as you are. I'm as confused as every Canadian is

00:25:12.200 what exactly is going on here.

00:25:15.020 Minister Gilbeau appears on the weekend talk shows

00:25:18.660 and he's so confusing.

00:25:20.300 Even the talk show hosts don't know what he's talking about.

00:25:23.100 But what he did say this last weekend was that

00:25:26.200 if you've got a popular internet channel,

00:25:29.540 popular YouTube or popular Facebook account,

00:25:32.920 like Corey, I guess, you could face regulation.

00:25:36.140 You could face censorship.

00:25:38.180 So I think we are starting to see a bit of a backlash

00:25:41.800 from the from the public former colleague of mine former head of the CRTC

00:25:48.100 Peter Menzies is being very vocal in terms of saying this is absolutely

00:25:53.140 outrageous and and Canadians as a whole need to rise up MPs are getting

00:25:59.380 thousands of letters a day through lobby groups and whatnot so where it's at on

00:26:06.820 the committee level is a committee this week has voted to bring the whole thing

00:26:10.780 to a halt even liberals on the committee sort of realizing the way the wind is blowing have stopped

00:26:17.660 it and they are going to bring in their lawyers all the federal lawyers department of justice

00:26:23.020 lawyers and ask them if it is in breach of the charter of rights and freedoms and that's what

00:26:29.820 the entire argument of the opposition has been that if you censor cory morgan you are breaching

00:26:36.060 his uh rights and freedom so the bill has now been stopped the lawyers are going to be coming

00:26:42.700 the uh attorney general of canada will be called towards the committee uh minister gilbo himself

00:26:49.660 will have to go and and ask questions so it's a very concerning uh very concerning law that i

00:26:57.260 think all canadians need to be need to be worried about because once you start letting the government

00:27:03.340 do some censorship. You just never know where it's going to end up there.

00:27:08.700 Corey, I want to ask you why you think they're doing this. I can see the liberals. They are

00:27:18.600 obsessed with this heritage thing. I mean, Jebo is from Quebec. And if media in Quebec is not

00:27:24.920 receiving subsidies and regulatory favoritism, then it pretty much doesn't exist in Quebec.

00:27:31.120 Quebec Media doesn't exist without government support, and it's particularly federal government

00:27:34.860 support. That's not the case in English Canada. I mean, we're obviously making a go at it here,

00:27:40.160 not unregulated, but without subsidies, period. So I can see him maybe wanting to,

00:27:49.120 despite his rhetoric saying that it's the big corporate guys who are against this,

00:27:52.820 we know for a fact that they're, for the most part, in support of it. So he might be

00:27:58.300 trying to regulate internet broadcasters like ourselves as a part of that why do you think he

00:28:03.840 what would be their reasoning for wanting to regulate I mean if you stop with us tomorrow

00:28:09.720 and you just did your own thing on YouTube why would he care about you it's control the bottom

00:28:15.600 line is it's control authoritarians want to have control on information that's going out and it's

00:28:21.800 it's funny because the bill started I mean it's odious right from day one I you know it's a

00:28:25.820 terrible control bill, but they got greedy and it showed because, you know, it really didn't hit the

00:28:30.060 fan until that amendment recently when they broadened it. I mean, it was already ugly enough

00:28:34.520 and one of the liberal MPs in the committee amended it to say that's going to include individual

00:28:38.620 broadcasters. Yes, like myself, like people who do workout videos, like any internet influencer.

00:28:45.140 I think that's part of the term they don't like. It's influencer because these people

00:28:48.040 are influencing minds. They're influencing thoughts. They're breaking stories. They're

00:28:53.000 getting stuff out that as we've seen with the government controlled media, I'm not saying it's

00:28:56.960 a giant conspiracy that totally clamps down on the media, but it makes them less inclined to cover

00:29:00.760 some stories than others. And if they can keep that tamped down, they will do so. Government

00:29:06.420 likes to have their fingers in and on everything. And, you know, some of it might be a bit well

00:29:11.900 meaning where they have this distorted idea that the state will maintain cultural preservation and

00:29:16.740 language, which again is wrong. But a lot of them, I think it's just a matter of they don't like the

00:29:23.920 messaging getting out there outside of their control. And the more they can do so, the more

00:29:28.000 they will do so. Well, we're actually quite pressed for time here. We have some technical issues in

00:29:34.580 the background. So we're actually going to switch right away to our final segment here. Will the

00:29:40.900 Eastern bastards actually freeze in the dark? You know, this is the second time we've been able to 1.00

00:29:46.000 play with that headline at the western standard i remember when we had the rail strike in uh i

00:29:50.960 think november of 2019 the western standard that was our western standards first full month we

00:29:55.760 were brand new and we had all sorts of interesting stories coming out um and i wrote a column will

00:30:00.880 the eastern bastards actually freeze in the dark uh and i apologize to our eastern viewers most of 0.91

00:30:06.080 you are not bastards just the people you elect but um we um we're now looking at line five which 0.99

00:30:13.060 supplies about half of the petroleum products to eastern Canada. Yes, the East gets a lot of foreign 0.94

00:30:18.620 oil, but most of the oil that they don't get from Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Russia, Venezuela,

00:30:27.080 places like this, comes through line five. And Democratic Michigan governor, her name escapes me, 1.00

00:30:33.520 Gretchen Whitmer, she is just about to flip the switch and turn this pipeline off. I gotta say, 0.99

00:30:42.020 of all the pipeline cancellations that we've faced in the last decade, I'm the least sad about this

00:30:49.600 one. If nothing else, I hope, not that I'm terribly optimistic, but it's our best hope of

00:30:57.160 helping the East understand that you need oil and gas and you need it from us. We are the reliable

00:31:03.000 source. And when you let foreign entities get in the way, you're jeopardized in that. Dave,

00:31:08.700 Dave, real quick, since we don't have a lot of time, give us a rundown of what's happening with Line 5, and do we expect the Easterners to freeze in the dark?

00:31:17.100 Too early to tell, Derek. We're talking about a 6.4-kilometer section of pipeline that was granted 67 years ago under the Straits of Mechanic.

00:31:29.220 As you mentioned, the governor in November gave Enbridge a shutdown order, and it has to be closed down by today.

00:31:36.980 The feds filed court papers yesterday saying all the reasons why they didn't.

00:31:43.180 They're currently still in mediation at the moment.

00:31:47.440 And Seamus O'Regan, the national or natural resources minister, says he's hopeful that things will come to a good conclusion.

00:31:57.180 He says he's not just representing, well, he's representing Alberta, Ontario, everybody in Quebec down east because all of the oil going into Sarnia comes from that pipeline.

00:32:08.900 So it would really be a huge impact on the eastern provinces if it does get shut down.

00:32:15.000 But Whitmer today put Enbridge on notice that any oil going through the pipeline tomorrow, she will consider hers, Michigan's property, and they will take the profits from it.

00:32:27.660 So it's going to be interesting, Derek.

00:32:30.800 Yeah.

00:32:31.580 So one of our commenters said that the plan of Enbridge is now to ship the oil by tanker through the Great Lakes.

00:32:38.800 Have you heard anything about that, Dave?

00:32:40.780 There's several ways they can go.

00:32:42.620 uh rail rail would seem to be the quickest and most convenient i'm sure farmers will love that

00:32:49.660 having capacity taken over by uh bio oil i'm not sure there's the tanker availability in the great

00:32:57.420 lakes to be honest with you to keep that level of of oil going but uh uh hopefully you know the

00:33:04.780 courts in the states move pretty quickly hopefully before the end of the week we'll get uh a certain

00:33:10.460 resolution anyways and i'm sure will be appealed and appealed and appealed so uh it's basically

00:33:17.580 status quo with threats going on either side at the moment uh corey i don't know if you have any

00:33:23.500 strong opinions about this um you know there was something called energy east that was being

00:33:28.860 proposed um the federal government effectively killed it i know uh the alberta government at

00:33:35.340 at the time under Rachel Notley, said pretty much nothing about it when it was killed.

00:33:40.320 And federal conservative leader Erwin O'Toole has said that Energy East is a no-go if the

00:33:46.220 Quebec government doesn't agree to it. So he's effectively agreed that Quebec gets a veto.

00:33:50.480 Agreed that our constitution doesn't mean anything.

00:33:52.440 Yeah. So, you know, in light of all of that, this might be a loaded question,

00:33:59.800 but I actually mean in all seriousness. Should the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark? 0.99

00:34:04.960 Yes. I'll go straight to it. Look, we've been screaming this from out here. I mean, prior to Energy East, I mean, a term that I hope that starts to come on the lips of Central Canadians who vote in these guys. Energy security. Think about it, you clowns. Windmills aren't going to do it. You can't damn any more rivers. You can't build the nuke plants that fast. You need this stuff. You need it. And you're finally going to feel it. 1.00

00:34:28.700 And I don't, you know, we started by warning. We started in November. We were shouting this. She's serious about this. People said, no, she's not. Don't worry about it. She was serious about it. Look at it today. There's a line drawn in the sand. The environmentalists are lining up behind her. She is allied with Joe Biden. She is now going to try and seize assets from a legally operating company to shut this thing down.

00:34:51.320 it wasn't a bluff our clown shooed prime minister is at six months to work on this and he's acting

00:34:57.600 like it snuck up on him so you know what it's gone beyond the point of warning to try and prevent an

00:35:02.220 offense happening and now i'm thinking you know what let it happen because some people need a

00:35:05.960 reality check it shut it down for just a month let the price spikes happen let it's not january

00:35:12.060 yeah yeah we're not going to kill people though you know because uh propane i mean all these

00:35:16.460 things that have to be shipped to pearson international gets all of their jet fuel from

00:35:20.320 there. And hey, I don't mind if nobody goes to Toronto. We're not going to get to go to Toronto.

00:35:24.840 But I mean, you need this taste of it. You can't fly a plane with a windmill, you guys.

00:35:30.260 You can't. Gliders. Yeah. We need gliders. That's wind powered planes. I mean, maybe people should

00:35:34.300 be building fireplaces for this winter because if you can't get propane by then, you're going to be

00:35:37.760 up the creek. And it will be around, but it'll only be the rich who are getting it. So welcome

00:35:41.700 to the realities of choking your market ability and that you have. And as you said, we had the

00:35:48.000 means. We had Energy East. If we had a diverse number of clients and outlets for our product,

00:35:52.820 I don't think Whitmer would have pulled this crap because she knows she's got us by the 0.97

00:35:56.060 short and curlies because we've let ourselves get like that. So I'm looking forward to it. 0.98

00:35:59.900 That may have been the first appearance of the term short and curlies on this show. I'm sure

00:36:03.560 it is not the last. I mean, if anyone here is listening or watching from the East, I recommend

00:36:11.720 You buy every jerry can you have, fill it with gas, fill it with oil, go and fill up

00:36:19.360 your propane, like get out, buy as every, like there should be a run on oil and gas

00:36:25.800 in Ontario and Quebec right now.

00:36:27.860 People should be hoarding this.

00:36:30.000 I would put a lock on the fuel door in my car because people should be siphoning it

00:36:34.840 out, stealing it.

00:36:35.560 It's going to be like water in the desert there very soon, quite potentially.

00:36:41.720 Looks like it will be, but not yet 100%, but it looks like it will be. 0.87

00:36:49.260 Let's see if the East wakes up a bit. 0.68

00:36:51.420 Maybe they'll say the answer is just to import more oil from Saudi Arabia.

00:36:54.520 But at the very, very least, you're going to see a huge spike in your prices at the pump.

00:37:00.400 Hope you enjoy it.

00:37:02.740 Well, thank you all very much for joining us today.

00:37:05.760 This was a fun show, so we have to cut it a little short.

00:37:08.960 But hey, we had other things to do here, so that's good.

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