Western Standard editor Nigel Hannaford and senior Alberta columnist Corey Morgan join host Derek P. Donoughue to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the Alberta government s handling of the anti-protestors' case, the federal government's proposed budget, and the Nashville shooting.
00:04:32.400And speaking of guns, this is not part of the script here, but speaking of guns, I think we've got to give a shootout to the Nashville Police Department for their wildly efficient and quick response to the shooter at a private Christian school, I think it was, in Nashville.
00:04:52.040Marked contrast to some of the other tragic school shootings we've seen in the United States.
00:04:58.360The National Police Department was there fast, went right into the school.
00:05:03.880A lot of us have seen the video footage and these guys were like John Wick on the job.
00:05:16.800And what I heard at the time, which I was saddened in the Uvalde case, was that the standing operating instructions were get there, seal the area, wait for backup.
00:09:00.780but I'm talking to justice every day. We'll see if there's anything we can do.
00:09:05.420That's I think it. She didn't say I was talking to prosecutors. I could be wrong,
00:09:09.260you know, send us a message or the comment section here, let us know if I'm wrong.
00:09:13.020But I didn't see anywhere where she said she's talked to prosecutors. She said she spoke to
00:09:16.620justice officials. Now that includes bureaucrats, deputy ministers, political advisors,
00:09:22.700and it does include potentially prosecutors, but she didn't say prosecutors.
00:09:27.260What's the story? What's the NDP and the CBC going at here? Because I'm not, I'm not yet sure what they're lighting their hair on fire about.
00:09:38.260And you can't be from what we've heard this morning. First of all, we went back to the to the CBC story because when the CBC puts out something on video, they also back it up with a with a printed story, which is a good thing in there.
00:09:53.260So they reported pushing Justice Department officials to intervene.
00:10:02.600Well, Justice Department officials, you just said it yourself,
00:10:05.700that could include prosecutors, but it doesn't say prosecutors.
00:10:10.000And the story is that, or the allegation is that prosecutors specifically were contacted.
00:22:00.580I think it just depends what's in the news that day.
00:22:03.260If it's Black Lives Matter, well, then it's about racial justice.0.67
00:22:06.600If it's about truth and reconciliation, well, he'll declare a holiday before you go surfing,0.86
00:22:12.980but, you know, he'll jump on these bandwagons.
00:22:15.240Well, that's true. But he's been very consistent on climate change. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, COVID, it's about locking down and mandates and that kind of stuff. But I think that global warming is the old faithful. When everything else, when there's nothing else burning on the social justice, progressive, liberal front, there's nothing urgently burning, kind of flaring up, you'll go back to the well of global warming as his main state.
00:22:40.340And there was a definite piece of evidence in here about legacy, and that is that they locked in the carbon tax in a way that makes it very expensive for a future government to get rid of.
00:22:53.720Now, they already had this to an extent before.
00:22:56.600Essentially, what it means is, let's say Trudeau loses the next election, Pierre Polyev comes in, and he says, no more carbon tax.
00:23:04.000Now, there's a bunch of corporate welfare in Canada right now that is paid for by the carbon tax.
00:23:11.000So, you know, we pay, you fill up your car, some of that money goes into a fund,
00:23:16.000and Justin Trudeau gives it to corporate welfare buddies who get to spend it on different projects to make themselves money.
00:23:22.000If Polyev comes in and shuts off that source of revenue, the federal government then needs to continue to pay these corporate welfare bums.
00:23:30.000bums. And that'll have to come out of other sources of government revenue, your regular personal
00:23:34.240income tax, corporate tax. So it means, yeah, a future government can get rid of the carbon tax,
00:23:41.220but they're permanently going to have, at least for a very long time, going to have to continue
00:23:44.780to pay it. I know you think it's bad policy, Corey. Was it smart politics? He's locking an
00:23:53.940incumbent into his position. And that's kind of the long-term judge of political success.
00:23:58.580You said it shows maybe a bit more of an indication that he's doing his swan song.
00:24:03.680As Nigel said, he wants some sort of legacy.
00:24:05.480So he was the guy who took on climate change and even kept his successor from managing to undo things.
00:24:11.900I mean, I don't know if Justin was bright enough to come up with that poison clause in there, but somebody did on his behalf.
00:24:17.580The problem is, I mean, as you mentioned, with these budgets, and this wasn't unexpected with a big deficit, but it's every government that does it.
00:24:25.760I mean, just Trudeau has been the worst, but this, it's going to keep happening until Canadians get sick of it.
00:24:31.660That's what happened. It took until the nineties.
00:24:33.740And I think the big factor that gets started bankrupt before we took it serious is when that principle gets so big and people see the interest payments.
00:24:40.400The interest on that this year is going to be $44 billion. That's bigger than the deficit itself.
00:24:45.480It's up $8 billion in interest, annual interest payments over last year.
00:24:50.600And that is flushed money. That upsets Canadians. I mean, that upsets me.
00:24:53.720I loathe that when I'm paying credit card interest if I haven't paid off the balance.
00:28:31.640It's just the price of an appetizer on the governor general's plane. So I mean, it's a
00:28:35.960cold camembert cheese for a senator. It doesn't make that much impact. It's a token gesture.
00:28:42.280All right. This is a fun one. Now, a trigger warning for those of you who don't like people
00:28:50.600who get triggered. This story is not about the CFL being racist. It's about a policy designed
00:28:58.680to do something that's unintentionally sort of racist. So there was a, you know, about one or
00:29:07.480two months ago, Nigel, we were sitting in the newsroom, kind of shooting the breeze with some
00:29:12.600of the folks. We're talking about these racial hiring quotas and affirmative action programs
00:29:19.000at University of Calgary. And I said something, someone says something along the lines of, you
00:29:24.040You know, if I see someone in a job or in a program, and they're a part of a group that benefits from quota hiring, I can't have, I don't really, I just can't help but not have confidence that they're not the best person for the job.
00:29:51.080Canadian football fans are going to be offended by this but we all know that the Americans by and
00:29:58.760large with some notable exceptions Americans are just generally better at football because they
00:30:03.320have a wildly better football program it's part of their culture you want doesn't really matter
00:30:07.640your income group for the most part you know as long as you're like above seven years old you
00:30:12.620want to play football in America you got a shot at playing football you go all the way to the top
00:30:16.400if you're good work hard not that way in Canada so we you know you see Canadian
00:30:20.900football players you know for the most part they're not as good and there is a
00:30:24.260quota in the CFL that I think is 21 members of the team so bit under 50% have
00:30:30.260to be Canadian and that's designed to ensure that the Canadian Football League
00:30:33.500is at least plausibly largely Canadian it's not a no not a majority and then I
00:30:41.840then I got to thinking after I said yeah you know it's like affirmative action for
00:30:45.140uh canadian players it occurs to me that most of the canadian players are white and most of
00:30:51.380the american players are black and we have a quota to hire canadians i wonder is this canadian player
00:30:58.980quota unintentionally resulting in hiring less black people for the job who are better qualified
00:31:05.940for it than some of these white guys so we did the research uh one of our reporters jonathan
00:31:10.180Bradley ran the numbers for me, and boy, that's what it turned out. Among the American players
00:31:18.740in the CFL, there's an average, the average team has five black or non-white players, and it's
00:31:24.980football. Most black players. Five black players to every one black player among Americans in the
00:31:32.180CFL. But in the Canadian side, which benefits from quotas, there's two white players to every one
00:31:38.660black or non-white player um and that means by forcing teams to hire more canadians than you
00:31:48.340know just a totally merit-based system the canadian canadian football players tend to be
00:31:53.060white and american football players tend to be black ergo the cfl is racially discriminating
00:32:01.380unintentionally uh i don't believe for a minute that these guys are intentionally hiring based
00:32:07.140on race that's not the thing but they are hiring based on nationality just based on nationality
00:32:11.540one's going to be whiter and one's going to be blacker than the other uh Nigel is there a lesson0.74
00:32:16.820in here about unintended consequences and quota hiring here well I think there is for sure um
00:32:23.700it is the one example that I've heard of in which a system of doing things actually does produce
00:32:32.820a result that you're probably a little embarrassed by. Does that mean that we shouldn't do it?
00:32:41.220So that's the big question here. There is a reasonable goal in that quota. It's that the
00:32:51.740Canadian football league should have some Canadians playing in it. And as I said,
00:32:54.540God, I... CFL is the only league I watch, and I beat it up all the time. It's such a typically
00:33:01.000canadian thing but can you know canadian football is players are just not for the most part the
00:33:06.440caliber of americans there's big exceptions like bc's roark uh incredible quarterback canadian
00:33:13.240top talent uh he's definitely headed for the nfl one day if he's not already signed he actually
00:33:17.320might be i'm not sure um the goal is to ensure the cfl's canadian and that makes sense because
00:33:23.880if we didn't have a Canadian quota on a team, CFL teams would be almost entirely American,
00:33:31.160almost entirely American. That's the inevitable consequence of what would happen.
00:33:36.680So is it, despite the result of this having some racial skewing, is it still a good idea to keep
00:33:42.840the quota? The only alternative seems to be get rid of it and accept that the CFL would become
00:33:47.400an American game on Canadian soil. Well, I guess there was one option as you're trying to
00:33:51.240try and persuade some americans to become canadian citizens well that does that does happen some
00:33:56.200long-time cfl players do become canadians and the but the other thing is you know we talk a lot
00:34:01.160about discrimination and just the very sound of the word uh people start to start to freak out
00:34:07.240but we actually discriminate for a lot of reasons and nobody complains if you are an airline pilot
00:34:14.280Your career comes to an end at a certain age. Why do they do that? Because your health is at
00:34:22.700greater risk as you get older. So, therefore, everybody comes, I think, at 65. I think everybody
00:34:29.340stops flying commercially at 65. That's discriminatory. If Fred earns more money
00:34:39.180than bill fred will pay a higher rate of income tax that is discriminatory but we accept that
00:34:46.980because we think that in some way it is fair just as yeah well i'm sorry i like the flat tax in
00:34:53.800alberta but that's that to me is fairness but i understand that there's a an argument that the
00:34:59.160more you are in the more you should contribute so you know you don't have to agree with it most
00:35:03.880people think it's absolutely acceptable. And if that is discrimination, they're all for it.
00:35:09.600So you've got to think, when is discrimination acceptable? Because obviously some discrimination
00:35:16.560is. And I think the CFL quota system, yeah, you're right. It would just be American players
00:35:21.980playing on Canadian fields if there wasn't some way to, if it was solely on merit.
00:35:27.420Corey, what do you think would be the best way to deal with this? Is it, because this is, if I might say so myself, a little self-flattering, I think it kind of encapsulates the decision here.
00:35:40.380You either have a large contingent of Canadians playing in the Canadian Football League, and you've accepted that that's going to result in some unintentional racist hiring practices, or you're going to eliminate unintentional racist hiring practices, and you just accept it's an American team.
00:36:00.660those are the only two kind of plausible ways i see forward other than kind of micro micro quotas
00:36:07.960within the canadian quotas and we'd just you know be a laughing stock to do that it's difficult yeah
00:36:12.440i mean they see i'm opposite i watch nothing but nfl and i can't bring myself to really enjoy cfl i
00:36:17.480know there's some good ball and some good players but i want to see the best i want to see the
00:36:21.600elites i want to see those bizarre outstanding athletes who can tiptoe on the sideline for that
00:36:27.360And that's what I'm talking about. That's why I watch it, because I know that the CFL almost purposely handicaps.0.92
00:36:33.260Pretend for a moment you care about your Alberta's own football team. Pretend you care for a moment.
00:36:40.460And I do care because I know their identity would be completely overwhelmed if you just allowed the superior base of players to flood in.
00:36:48.940And even then, they still wouldn't have a team that could compete with an American NFL.
00:36:52.840No, just the money's not there to compete with the NFL.
00:36:54.800Yeah. So they're in a tough spot. It was unintentional, as you said, maybe just if anything, they want to try and develop more broad-based football player development within Canada so we can get more up and coming players who are up. But again, that won't change the racial makeup.
00:39:06.360I like to fashion myself a scrapper, but you got to know when to hold them and know when to fold them.
00:39:14.100I feel bad about publishing this article because I, and I could tell like in the comment sections who actually read the damn thing and who didn't.
00:39:26.220You know, you see on Facebook, people see the headline.
00:39:29.260You know, they see the headline, the CFL's Canadian football, Canadian player quota is unintentionally pretty racist.
00:39:36.360Well, if you don't know the Western Standard, you might just assume that's another woke headline saying everything is racist, everything is racist today.
00:39:45.700So I could tell really quickly who has a Western Standard membership and pays to read this stuff and who just reads the headlines and rage comments.
00:40:02.120You're not the Americans, but I love our Canadian football players.
00:40:06.920You're the best, in my view, in my hope.
00:40:11.420Okay, before we wrap up, though, we'll talk real quickly about this last story.
00:40:16.520The federal government, you remember during the Freedom Convoy, blacklisted a bunch of people who were involved,
00:40:24.700people, organizations, and businesses that donated or involved in any way with the Freedom Convoy,1.00
00:40:30.240Blacklisted them, ordered the banks to freeze their bank accounts, all sorts of wild stuff that belongs in third world countries, banana republic stuff.1.00
00:40:39.920We knew this had happened, but just recently, maybe you fill us in more, Nigel.1.00
00:40:45.200The federal government has admitted that they shared this blacklist with foreign governments, including enemy states like the Chinese Communist Party.
00:40:53.280They've shared the blacklist with them, asking their financial institutions to blacklist these people.
00:40:57.320And God forbid that they get any kind of banking services overseas.
00:41:03.180Yeah, well, I doubt that too many of them were dealing in South Korea.
00:41:06.760But, you know, it's actually quite a long list.
00:41:12.560I'm crediting Blackbox with this because it's their article.
00:41:15.500But I shared the black list in the Bank of China, the State Bank of India, BNP Paribas of France, Citibank, New York, Habib Bank of Pakistan,
00:41:26.760Hanna Financial Group, I won't read them all.
00:41:29.300There's about 20 foreign banks that have received the proprietorial information
00:41:33.920about Canadian companies including their account numbers
00:41:40.580because that's what was frozen, was the account.
00:41:44.780It wasn't don't do business with ABC trucking.
00:41:47.340It's don't do business with ABC trucking.
00:41:49.280And if you see anything going into this account, cut it off, freeze it.