Western Standard - The Pipeline November 18, 2020

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00:02:30.000 Welcome to the Western Standards Pipeline.

00:02:58.000 I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.

00:03:00.000 With me today on my left, your right, is Dave Naylor, news editor of the Western Standard,

00:03:06.000 Corey Morgan, podcast editor and columnist for the Western Standard.

00:03:11.000 Today is November 18th, 2020.

00:03:15.000 We're going to be dealing with a number of current topics today.

00:03:19.000 We're going to be talking about what is looking increasingly like another big lockdown or

00:03:26.000 shutdown in Alberta.

00:03:29.000 The Great Reset.

00:03:30.000 Justin Trudeau and other world leaders talking about using the pandemic as an excuse for a

00:03:36.000 massive overhaul of social and economic policy on a national and even international level.

00:03:43.000 And defund the police Calgary and the Calgary City Council's predilection for getting on the

00:03:50.000 latest BLM bandwagon.

00:03:53.000 Well, thank you all very much for joining us.

00:03:55.000 Before we get into it, I want to thank all of our members of the Western Standard for your

00:04:00.000 generous support.

00:04:01.000 We are now actually a one year of the Western Standard, Dave.

00:04:05.000 We're just a little over one year.

00:04:06.000 I think, Dave, you're pretty much on your one year holiday right now.

00:04:10.000 I only predate you by a few.

00:04:11.000 Wait a minute.

00:04:12.000 I should be on holiday?

00:04:13.000 Anniversary.

00:04:14.000 Oh, okay.

00:04:15.000 You know, there's no holidays here.

00:04:17.000 One year anniversary at the Western Standard.

00:04:20.000 Hell of a job.

00:04:21.000 Thank you.

00:04:22.000 You know, I actually think your name is actually possibly even more associated with the

00:04:28.000 Standard now than even mine.

00:04:31.000 I mean, early on, I guess it was maybe seen as my hobby horse, but, you know, in charge

00:04:35.000 of the news division, you've done a hell of a job.

00:04:38.000 You know, you brought a great reputation from your time at the Calgary Sun News Desk

00:04:43.000 or City Desk to the Western Standard, and you've just done an incredible job with us

00:04:48.000 and very grateful.

00:04:49.000 And I think our members are, too.

00:04:50.000 Thanks, Derek.

00:04:51.000 Corey, you're not there yet.

00:04:53.000 No, I got it.

00:04:55.000 But we appreciate it all.

00:04:57.000 Certainly one of our top red columnists. 0.99

00:05:00.000 So, yeah, thank you to all our members who have been with us.

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00:05:27.000 Because if you don't, in time you'll be just back to the CBC and the same old government subsidized newspapers.

00:05:32.000 But let's get to it.

00:05:33.000 We'll start with the current semi-lockdown, sort of semi-voluntary but not really voluntary lockdown that's taking place in Alberta right now.

00:05:43.000 And what's increasingly pointing towards, I think, another lockdown happening here in Alberta.

00:05:48.000 Dave, why don't you tee it up?

00:05:50.000 The numbers haven't been good, Derek, the last week or so.

00:05:53.000 Alberta recorded over a thousand cases in one day over the weekend.

00:05:58.000 The Kennedy government has brought in some, what some people say are fairly weak regulations.

00:06:04.000 They're making the bars and pubs close at 10pm.

00:06:09.000 They've shut down kids dance classes and group exercises.

00:06:14.000 But most people, most experts say that's probably not enough.

00:06:19.000 And as you look at most of Western Europe, they're now back in severe lockdowns.

00:06:24.000 Ontario, Manitoba, lockdowns.

00:06:28.000 Manitoba announced, I just did a story on the website, they're hiring private security guards this weekend to start handing out tickets.

00:06:36.000 They're trying to cut back on the COVID scoff laws.

00:06:41.000 So, a lot of people say...

00:06:43.000 And encouraging people to snitch on their neighbours if they're having a dinner party.

00:06:46.000 Snitch on their neighbours.

00:06:47.000 1-800-SNITCH.

00:06:48.000 COVID-SNITCH.

00:06:49.000 So, the numbers are improving a little bit over the last couple of days.

00:06:54.000 We were down to 773 cases, I believe, on Tuesday.

00:06:59.000 Monday, we had a terrible death toll.

00:07:02.000 20 people died in the province and that we're now about 430 people dead in the province.

00:07:09.000 So, I don't think Premier Kenney wants to have a lockdown.

00:07:13.000 But he may have no choice coming up.

00:07:18.000 Corey, do you think...

00:07:23.000 Is this laying the groundwork for a lockdown?

00:07:28.000 Or do you think this is a genuine attempt to see if they can stop it?

00:07:31.000 Or have they already decided that...

00:07:33.000 I think we can agree that Kenney and his government...

00:07:37.000 It's not their first reflex to shut down the economy.

00:07:40.000 It's not something they want to do.

00:07:41.000 I don't think they see it as the great virtue signalling the many Liberal premiers or Premier Doug Ford sees in Ontario.

00:07:48.000 That it shows how great moral you are to shut down the economy.

00:07:51.000 I don't think it'd be fair to say that they fall into that camp.

00:07:54.000 But to you, do you think this is a genuine attempt to see if they can stop it?

00:07:58.000 Or have they already decided that from what we think, we're going to have to shut it down.

00:08:04.000 But the political climate is not there for another shutdown right now.

00:08:07.000 And we're going to have to do this first to lay the political groundwork for it.

00:08:10.000 Which one do you think? Do you think it's one of those two?

00:08:12.000 I think they're still hoping to somehow avoid a full out lockdown.

00:08:16.000 I mean, some of it is, of course, they're under so much pressure.

00:08:19.000 Everybody's screaming, do something.

00:08:21.000 That's the thing. You got to do something.

00:08:22.000 If you aren't going to change something, people are saying, well, you're doing nothing.

00:08:25.000 And the politics are getting played and then they're trying to lay fatalities at the feet of the government, whether fairly or unfairly.

00:08:33.000 So they're doing, I think, surgical moves to say, well, we're doing this, we're doing that, we're targeting this.

00:08:38.000 Some of it, perhaps, again, they are saying we're following the science.

00:08:42.000 You know, the number of trackable infections to, for example, restaurants and bars has been very, very minimal, very small.

00:08:49.000 So why would you rush out to shut those places down if that doesn't seem to be where these infections are blossoming?

00:08:55.000 A lot of it was talking about a lot of these are happening because of people at households getting together.

00:09:00.000 There might have been a lot of Halloween parties contributing to this spike right now.

00:09:03.000 And that's the hardest thing to control.

00:09:06.000 I mean, you can legislate, but again, with the neighbors snitching and so on, but it's difficult.

00:09:10.000 So that's where they're asking people at least to voluntarily, please stop putting a bunch of people in your houses right now.

00:09:16.000 I don't think they want to go, but they're running out of options.

00:09:19.000 And we're watching just some, I found it nauseating political play going on.

00:09:24.000 Mayor Nenshi in Calgary, basically putting a plea to Trudeau to try and get him to override our provincial.

00:09:29.000 Government.

00:09:30.000 What the hell do you think you're doing and where are you coming from?

00:09:35.000 But again, it's more, I'm afraid that it has very little to do with calming the infections as opposed to undercutting the provincial government, as well as some of the doctors who've been very outspoken calling for lockdowns.

00:09:49.000 It turns out, again, maybe genuinely concerned about things, but very tightly tied to the NDP.

00:09:55.000 So we're seeing a very ugly game unfolding here.

00:09:59.000 The numbers are going up and people are worried.

00:10:02.000 I mean, we want to do something, but the question is whether or not a lockdown even will do anything to stop this.

00:10:07.000 I think frustrations are also growing, gentlemen.

00:10:10.000 I'll give you a brief example.

00:10:12.000 I've got a pub in my community that I am known to frequent.

00:10:16.000 And they have a wood area where they offer people sitting at the bar service.

00:10:21.000 And they've got glasses lined up along the wood.

00:10:24.000 And the AHS came in and saw what they had done was they covered all the glasses with several sheets of plastic.

00:10:31.000 And they had four visits from the AHS.

00:10:34.000 And all four of those inspectors gave them approval for that.

00:10:37.000 And then on Friday, they got another visit.

00:10:40.000 And this inspector says, no, that's no good.

00:10:42.000 So they had to shut down their wood service for a week until they could get a plexiglass installer in to install plexiglass.

00:10:51.000 So I guess it's a sense of almost confusion amongst bar owners and restaurant owners.

00:10:58.000 What exactly are the rules?

00:11:01.000 And I don't think they're being explained very well.

00:11:03.000 Well, this is we're in a bizarre spot right now.

00:11:07.000 So, you know, things are being shut down that don't make sense.

00:11:10.000 And we're being told this is kind of a volunteer.

00:11:12.000 No, it's not voluntary.

00:11:13.000 It's just not the full hyper draconian shutdown that we've seen before.

00:11:18.000 My daughter's dance class is shut down.

00:11:20.000 You know, we, you know, you had a story on that with other dance classes being shut down.

00:11:25.000 My daughter is three years old.

00:11:26.000 There hasn't been a single case of COVID that's come from this.

00:11:29.000 When I go there, it is crazy safe.

00:11:32.000 The girls dance in these little taped off squares. 0.95

00:11:37.000 They stay in these squares.

00:11:38.000 They enter and exit the room and numbers.

00:11:41.000 I have no, I can't control my daughter to do that kind of discipline. 1.00

00:11:46.000 But these dance classes have been very, very good about it.

00:11:49.000 They've been complying with everything.

00:11:50.000 And now it's shut down.

00:11:51.000 My three-year-old now is supposed to go to a dance class on Zoom.

00:11:55.000 How am I supposed to do that?

00:11:57.000 That's, I mean, some, you know, person in a comfortable remote job can work through Zoom.

00:12:03.000 And that's great for them.

00:12:04.000 But you can't get social interaction through Zoom.

00:12:08.000 I mean, when the first lockdown took place, that was when the modeling was showing.

00:12:13.000 We were looking at Spanish flu type numbers.

00:12:15.000 We're looking at massive numbers of deaths.

00:12:17.000 We know that all of the, well, we have a comment now from Roger, Robert O'Leary.

00:12:24.000 Dr. Roger Hawkinson told the Edmonton City Council that lockdowns are utterly ridiculous in dealing with COVID-19.

00:12:31.000 Just last night, Dave broke the story about Dr. Hawkinson.

00:12:35.000 I haven't seen that on any other news outlet.

00:12:37.000 They have, let's just say they have declined to report on it.

00:12:42.000 But, you know, blasting these measures, saying face masks are utterly useless.

00:12:47.000 That's a direct quote.

00:12:48.000 That the lockdowns aren't working, that they're leading to suicides and business failures and depression.

00:12:54.000 Humans are social animals.

00:12:55.000 We need to see other people.

00:12:56.000 If people are going to be convinced of the need for a lockdown, we have to be convinced that the threat is consummate with destroying absolutely everything else.

00:13:05.000 And when the first lockdown took place, I grudgingly was, I took, fine, I'll comply.

00:13:12.000 We'll see how it goes.

00:13:13.000 But it turns out the modeling, you know, you've written some great stuff on this, Corey.

00:13:15.000 The modeling was not even close.

00:13:18.000 It is a bad, it is like a very, very, very bad flu season.

00:13:24.000 Funny enough, there have been zero influenza cases in Alberta this year.

00:13:29.000 I think I'm not mistaken, but that would be the first time in the history of Alberta that there are zero influenza cases.

00:13:37.000 Only 17 in the entire country.

00:13:39.000 17 cases in the entire country.

00:13:41.000 How could that be possible?

00:13:42.000 You know why?

00:13:43.000 It's not.

00:13:44.000 It's being overreported.

00:13:46.000 Dr. Hawkinson's advice was that we should stop mass testing of everybody because it's pretty flimsy testing to begin with.

00:13:54.000 What we should do is you get tested.

00:13:58.000 If you feel symptoms, you go into the hospital or you go to your doctor, you get tests then.

00:14:04.000 Because right now we're overreporting when we're comparing data across months of people being infected.

00:14:09.000 Well, if you test more people, you're going to get more positive results.

00:14:12.000 And many of these positives we've seen are not actually positives.

00:14:16.000 They're false positives.

00:14:17.000 So just to clarify on Robert's note there, it's Dr. Hawkinson.

00:14:23.000 Yeah, is the correct name of the gentleman.

00:14:27.000 Yeah.

00:14:28.000 That's part of the question.

00:14:29.000 I mean, if you line up 10 experts, you're going to get 10 points of view.

00:14:32.000 And that's, you know, I'm certain many of them are genuine, but there's just a whole lot in the air still on this whole thing.

00:14:38.000 People are scared and they want to see something, but at the same time, from all I can see, they don't really know how to stop this.

00:14:45.000 But we do know.

00:14:46.000 One thing we know is we can do a heck of a lot of damage trying to stop it.

00:14:50.000 And that's something I think is being underreported.

00:14:52.000 We're forgetting the COVID overdoses, the bankruptcies.

00:14:55.000 I mean, most of the strongest voices calling for lockdowns are people who are on salary who can work from home.

00:15:01.000 They are not the construction workers who are suddenly going to be out of work.

00:15:04.000 The hospitality sector workers are going to be out of work.

00:15:07.000 The small business owners who are going to go bankrupt.

00:15:09.000 Yeah.

00:15:10.000 The number of cases that have been transmitted and identified to hospitality, you know, bars and restaurants, it's incredibly, incredibly low.

00:15:18.000 And now, you know, you've got guys like Palliser in Manitoba who's now hiring private investigators to go out and bust people and encourage people to snitch on people for having people over for Christmas.

00:15:30.000 I mean, I don't I might be wrong, but I think at the very least, a large number of people, probably a small majority, at least in Alberta, if not in other provinces, are not going to buy in the kind of social license, if you will, to another massive shutdown, particularly at Christmas.

00:15:49.000 People are going to say, look, we bought into this the first time it was it turned out to be unnecessary.

00:15:55.000 We can point to examples now like Sweden, which have done extremely well without shutdowns, taking reasonable, moderate measures.

00:16:02.000 I don't think there's going to be anything close to universal compliance.

00:16:08.000 And unless you have that kind of moral authority for universal compliance, the shutdown doesn't matter.

00:16:14.000 Everybody, absolutely everybody needs to do it together or it's utterly useless.

00:16:19.000 And so I think what the government's doing right now, I think they've it as we said, I don't think it would be fair to say Kenny wants a shutdown.

00:16:26.000 I do not think it's fair to say he sees this as a great moral virtue signaling that say Doug Ford does.

00:16:32.000 But he's I think he is bending towards Hinshaw and whatnot, what you're telling him, you need to do this.

00:16:39.000 The media is banging the drum for media outside of us are doing that.

00:16:44.000 And I think what we're seeing right now is they're just trying to lay the groundwork for it, saying, hey, guys, we tried this lesser shutdown didn't work.

00:16:51.000 We have to do this. I'm sorry. I don't want to.

00:16:54.000 But I think it's a big problem because as the pandemic has become strangely ideologically divided, most of the people against these lockdowns, they're not just the conspiracy theorists.

00:17:06.000 This is all mind control people. I think a majority of people take it seriously.

00:17:11.000 They understand this is a bad thing. This is not fake.

00:17:15.000 There is a real pandemic, but we we simply can't.

00:17:20.000 It's not as bad as we were told it was going to be. We can't shut down society for years on end.

00:17:25.000 And guess what? There's a vaccine on the way.

00:17:28.000 Pfizer and and another company.

00:17:31.000 There's two there's two vaccines on the way with a ninety five percent really promising.

00:17:37.000 That is a very strong rate. Ninety five percent.

00:17:40.000 That is on the way.

00:17:41.000 It'll start probably with health care professionals and VIPs and then it'll work its way down to plebs like us.

00:17:48.000 But that's hope is on the horizon and we've got to move forward.

00:17:54.000 So I think without almost universal buy in for a lockdown like there was with the very first one in March or whatever last year, it's useless.

00:18:03.000 And it really just becomes a purely political virtue signaling operation, even if that's not really what the government's trying to achieve.

00:18:14.000 Anything else on that one, guys?

00:18:16.000 Oh, we could fill a whole show on that. We should move on.

00:18:19.000 Well, speaking of politicians and the pandemic, the Great Reset.

00:18:25.000 Now, the Great Reset has been a term that's been floated around by some of the hard left for some time to use the pandemic as an excuse for a massive reset of Western society and Western economy in their centrally planned, all knowing beliefs.

00:18:52.000 Now, a lot of the people who've been talking about this have been generally on the fringe.

00:18:57.000 I've seen it kind of going around a lot of the more conspiracy theory related groups.

00:19:01.000 And, you know, you see the guy who would have the sign saying the end is nigh before the pandemic has beware the Great Reset sign now.

00:19:10.000 So it's been easy to kind of dismiss this as a fringe and kooky thing, but it no longer is.

00:19:15.000 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau just the other day used those exact words and the need to use the so-called Great Reset to usher in a great new Trudeopian age.

00:19:29.000 Dave, why don't you queue up what it is the Prime Minister said and what he was trying to really dig at?

00:19:35.000 He was speaking to a United Nations committee in September, Derek.

00:19:39.000 And basically, I think you summed it up nicely.

00:19:42.000 He was basically saying the pandemic is a good excuse to completely do a Great Reset, to reset Canadian financial thinking, to reset Canadian social plans, environmental plans,

00:19:56.000 basically scrub everything we've got now and start again and do it all over again.

00:20:02.000 Sort of got into the woodwork for a little bit, but now it's starting to come out.

00:20:08.000 And a lot of people are certainly talking about it across the country.

00:20:11.000 That's for sure.

00:20:12.000 Well, that's it.

00:20:14.000 It has been around for a while.

00:20:16.000 It's unfortunate.

00:20:17.000 Like this is part of the UN and the UN's agenda 30.

00:20:20.000 I don't like how the UN... 0.73

00:20:21.000 Do you sound like a crazy man as soon as you say that?

00:20:23.000 I hate their titles because they had agenda 21 too, which as soon as people talk about it, it sounds like people with Area 51 and aliens.

00:20:29.000 But these things are entrenched.

00:20:31.000 Go to the UN website.

00:20:32.000 You can read these.

00:20:33.000 The main thing was that they're put together by pointy headed academics and ideologues, and they do these papers at great expense to the developed world.

00:20:41.000 And they put it out there.

00:20:42.000 But most rational leaders say, okay, these are lofty goals and things and they just dismiss it.

00:20:47.000 And then they came out with a new 2031, which again, we can dismiss. 0.98

00:20:51.000 Okay, that's what these clowns want to do. 0.96

00:20:53.000 But no serious leader is going to pursue that. 0.99

00:20:55.000 It would be a catastrophe.

00:20:57.000 Suddenly, Prime Minister Clown Shoes is actually talking about it.

00:21:00.000 Now that brought it into a whole new level.

00:21:02.000 It's out of the academic corners of talking about these theoretical things.

00:21:06.000 And he spoke directly of the, you know, the UN agenda on that and the Great Reset, which again, yeah, I mean, it's a horrific theory.

00:21:14.000 It's talking about and Trudeau went a little further.

00:21:17.000 He didn't just use the term that people are saying is taking out of context.

00:21:20.000 He was talking about reshaping our economic system.

00:21:23.000 Like we're, that is huge.

00:21:26.000 It's monstrous and needs to be expanded upon.

00:21:30.000 He dipped his toe into, I mean, the Great Reset and using that term for it.

00:21:34.000 Well, that means you tear it down to the ground floor.

00:21:36.000 You bankrupt the nation and then rebuild a socialist system from the rubble.

00:21:40.000 That in a nutshell is what the Great Reset is.

00:21:42.000 I'm fine with the Great Reset as long as we burn it all to the ground and don't do anything after that.

00:21:45.000 Well, then there's the great anarchy and that's fine.

00:21:47.000 And I can end with that.

00:21:48.000 I mean, I live on an acreage and I'm well armed, but not everybody is going to perhaps go through that as comfortably.

00:21:55.000 It's just, it was astounding to hear a world leader.

00:21:58.000 Well, that's the thing is, you know, the, you know, these, you only hear UN's agenda 21, agenda 2030.

00:22:05.000 I mean, it's, it's kooky stuff, but you're right.

00:22:08.000 We normally, you know, these are aspirational goals written by a bunch of UN bureaucrats and politicians who are fine to put their name to it.

00:22:15.000 Cause it's, it's not binding.

00:22:17.000 I mean, I'm not one of these guys who believes that the UN has any power.

00:22:21.000 It doesn't.

00:22:22.000 How many troops does UN have?

00:22:23.000 None.

00:22:24.000 Only whatever anyone gives it.

00:22:25.000 It's not the great powerful organization something. 0.98

00:22:29.000 It does all sorts of kooky, crazy and stupid things, but I don't believe the Illuminati are running this thing. 0.94

00:22:34.000 But you don't, I don't take it seriously because no one else, none of these world leaders generally take it seriously. 0.97

00:22:42.000 But then we have the prime minister of our country explicitly endorse this stuff and take it seriously and saying, this is something we're going to do.

00:22:49.000 Well, then I have to sit up and take notice of that.

00:22:51.000 It's no longer in the kooky, the end is nigh guy, sign holding guy.

00:22:56.000 This is now the prime minister holding up the sign.

00:22:59.000 So that should set up alarm bells.

00:23:03.000 The federal Tories have been remarkably quiet about this stuff with the notable, notable exception of Pierre Polliver.

00:23:09.000 And if I'm not mistaken, maybe a bit Michelle Rempel. 0.99

00:23:12.000 There's, there's been a few who have struck out.

00:23:14.000 True blue, Aaron O'Toole has been very red since having the job.

00:23:20.000 And as soon as you have the support of your, your party members in the leadership race, you always run to the center.

00:23:27.000 That's just what happens.

00:23:28.000 Don't ever believe it's going to be different folks, but I mean, with the exception of a few folks in the Tory ranks, the Tories have been very quiet about this.

00:23:39.000 Maybe they don't want to sound conspiratorial because a lot of this talk often is associated with that.

00:23:44.000 But I mean, this is Trudeau trying to use, and he's not the only world leader doing it, but he's the only one I'm aware of so far who's explicitly endorsed it in this language.

00:23:56.000 Joe Biden says build back better and all the crap rhetoric associated with that.

00:24:00.000 Trudeau was pretty blunt and straightforward with it. 0.94

00:24:02.000 You know, one of the arguments I did see from some other people on Twitter and saying, you know, well, look, Trudeau is not some shadowy cerebral sort of mustache tweaking backroom monster. 0.99

00:24:13.000 The argument they're making basically is Trudeau's too stupid to come up with something like that. 0.99

00:24:16.000 That's the good news. 1.00

00:24:17.000 And they've got a bit of point there.

00:24:18.000 But unfortunately, Trudeau parrots what his handlers tell him to do.

00:24:22.000 So he's not pulling this up out of nowhere.

00:24:24.000 If he was going to pull it up out of nowhere, he'd bring up his pop up books for the day.

00:24:27.000 He's getting this stuff from somewhere and he's putting it forward.

00:24:31.000 So again, be concerned, be very concerned.

00:24:33.000 Sure, he's the mouthpiece, he's the figurehead, but he's the one who's got the signature.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, we should be grateful that he's not smart enough to mastermind something like this because he would probably want to.

00:24:42.000 His father was smart enough.

00:24:44.000 His father was much more dangerous for that reason.

00:24:46.000 But in a different sense, Justin Trudeau was also dangerous because he doesn't really have a mind of his own.

00:24:52.000 He is controlled by other players surrounding him to a degree that most other Canadian or provincial leaders are not.

00:24:59.000 You do get the sense that Gerald Butts is behind this somehow, don't you?

00:25:04.000 He usually is.

00:25:05.000 I'm careful not to attribute everything to Gerald Butts because he isn't pulling the strings on everything.

00:25:13.000 But God, he's got to be pulling along.

00:25:15.000 He's a bottom.

00:25:16.000 He's one of the wizards behind the curtain.

00:25:18.000 Yeah, I think there's one thing that does need to be burned down and a complete reset, and that's the United Nations.

00:25:23.000 Yes.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, why don't we reset the UN?

00:25:27.000 Well, what a disreputable organization.

00:25:30.000 Somebody tweeted out the list of the 2021, I put that on my rants the other week, I listed that, of the Human Rights Council.

00:25:38.000 Every, not just most of them, every single one of them were countries that had horrific human rights records.

00:25:44.000 These are the guys that are supposed to lecture.

00:25:46.000 You guys take yourself seriously when you got Somalia and China and Iran. 0.92

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 Until France is off the Permanent Security Council, I am not putting up with the UN.

00:25:55.000 France off, and time for some more important countries to come in.

00:25:59.000 What's France done lately?

00:26:01.000 Actually, you know what?

00:26:02.000 Actually, I got to give, I have to eat that.

00:26:06.000 France actually has shown more balls lately on free speech issues than almost any other country on the planet.

00:26:11.000 Macron gave the extremists the finger. 0.81

00:26:13.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 And Macron is not some right wing conservative.

00:26:16.000 He's a centrist.

00:26:17.000 But I think he's a genuine center.

00:26:20.000 He's not one of these like center left who calls himself center.

00:26:23.000 I think he's actually kind of a genuine centrist for whatever relative fluid term that might mean.

00:26:29.000 So you know what?

00:26:30.000 I'm going to eat my words.

00:26:31.000 France hasn't done a lot of good lately, but they were great on that.

00:26:35.000 And then we saw the cowardice of Justin Trudeau standing with the leaders of Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

00:26:42.000 You know, these tin pot medieval dictatorships that were saying it should be illegal.

00:26:52.000 Free speech should have limitations on it if it offends Muslims. 1.00

00:26:56.000 Justin Trudeau standing with them rather than with France and the actual free world.

00:27:02.000 So I never thought I'd say it.

00:27:05.000 But geez, France is better run than Canada.

00:27:07.000 Okay, well, we're gonna move on from there to more madness, much closer to home.

00:27:14.000 As you can probably tell, we are in our Calgary offices, the Western Standard here.

00:27:20.000 And not very far away from our offices, probably above not more than a kilometer to our east is Calgary City Council, where they are have already voted to, but not yet finalized their plan to partially defund the police.

00:27:36.000 Partially defund the police, I don't think it'd be fair to say this is defunding the police the way the hardcore BLM activists say, although that doesn't mean anything.

00:27:44.000 Where they had the opportunity to defund the police in the Chas zone in Seattle, I think it was, they just replaced it with a bunch of gangland warlords instead of the police. 0.98

00:27:55.000 That worked out real well.

00:27:56.000 You know, I wish Chas was still around.

00:27:58.000 That was a great source of news.

00:27:59.000 I just, it's actually good to have a couple communist states around just so we can watch what's happening. 0.50

00:28:05.000 Although, as Chas fell apart, inevitably, they very quickly said that wasn't real communism.

00:28:10.000 So we're, the world is still awaiting our first real communist state.

00:28:13.000 Dave, why don't you break down what's happening with this whole defund the police movement with city council?

00:28:20.000 Where it's at, and where are the kind of political, you know, how the different sides to drawing the political lines?

00:28:27.000 Well, that's going to be the big issue in the campaign next year, I think, Derek.

00:28:32.000 Councillor Evan Woolley has proposed taking $20 million out of the Calgary Police Service budget over two years, $10 million a year,

00:28:40.000 and giving it to various social service agencies around the city, you know, to help battle homelessness and drug addiction and whatnot.

00:28:49.000 That has been approved by a city committee, and will now go to a public meeting of Calgarians on November 23rd,

00:28:58.000 before going back to a final vote on city council, which seems very, very split on this issue.

00:29:05.000 Councillor Farkas, who has announced he's running for mayor, yesterday started a petition that seems to be doing very well,

00:29:13.000 getting thousands of Calgarians to say they don't want the police defunded.

00:29:22.000 Councillor Sean Chu is also on Farkas' side.

00:29:25.000 He's a former Calgary police officer, served for 21 years, so I think he knows what he's talking a little bit about.

00:29:32.000 Well, that seems to be split with the Nenshis and the Woolies of the world. 1.00

00:29:37.000 In fact, it's got so bad, Woolie called Chew a moron last week. 0.97

00:29:42.000 So, I think that's going to set the tone of the debate for the next year, 0.93

00:29:47.000 and we're just under, what, 10 months away from the next election. 0.99

00:29:51.000 Yeah, well, it just, it is something, and along with calling Chew a moron, 0.95

00:29:56.000 something else that was distressing in that same sentence that Woolie spat out that day was,

00:30:01.000 he was also saying he wanted to target any developers who contributed to Sean Chu.

00:30:05.000 I'm not, you know, he didn't expand on what targeting means and what he's going to do to these,

00:30:11.000 but, so these politicians are actually going after the funders of their competing members on council over a vote.

00:30:18.000 It's just absurd. That sounds very much like the NDP going after businesses that contributed to the Tories.

00:30:23.000 Very much, very much so, as that strategy seems to be going around.

00:30:27.000 Although in the Calgary City Council case, you get the implication, at least, that it's not just to boycott businesses,

00:30:33.000 but that to use the power of City Council to hurt the developers, to use the power of the state, rather than voluntary boycotts.

00:30:40.000 There's some undertones of that, which is kind of concerning, you know, and I wish Mr. Woolie would expand on that,

00:30:45.000 but I very much doubt he will. But I mean, that's how emotional this thing has gotten.

00:30:49.000 And then I'm looking at others. I mean, they're trying to polish this turd and that's what it is.

00:30:54.000 I mean, the public are realizing, wait a minute, you know, and I've said it before and I'll say it again.

00:30:57.000 If this was part of cutting spending all around on the entire city, because the police is a big part of the budget.

00:31:03.000 They're saying, look, we got to get our spending in order, which they do.

00:31:05.000 And we're going to cut on street maintenance and we're going to cut on fire.

00:31:09.000 Even we got to make it more efficient. We just can't afford it. That's part and parcel of the whole thing.

00:31:13.000 I could be more understanding of that. You know, we need to streamline.

00:31:16.000 We need to get costs under control. We're in a terrible crisis, but they're not.

00:31:20.000 They're doing this purely to appease Black Lives Matter, which if you read Black Lives Matter's Canada's site,

00:31:25.000 you know, people keep, they get on my case when I call them extremists. They are.

00:31:28.000 They're not just calling for defunding a little bit. They want to abolish the police.

00:31:32.000 And they say it outright on their site. These guys are pandering to these extremists.

00:31:37.000 And then you listen to Shane Keating saying, oh, well, we didn't defund them. We reallocated. Oh, come on.

00:31:45.000 Well, that's great. Let's take all the welfare. 0.99

00:31:47.000 Reallocated back to the taxpayers then.

00:31:49.000 Yeah. Well, this is actually, you know, let's let them get away with calling it reallocation.

00:31:55.000 This way, conservatives and libertarians in government, we can abolish entire departments to say we're reallocating it.

00:32:01.000 Sure. We're reallocating 20% off of the teachers too.

00:32:03.000 And that'll improve their teaching because that's the theory is if we defund these things, they're going to get better.

00:32:07.000 And then we listened to Ward Sutherland. He came up with a tweet too, expressing shock because I guess the police were saying,

00:32:14.000 well, there was a bunch of positions we were going to hire for and now we're not going to because that's what happens when you get defunded.

00:32:19.000 You run out of money. And he was expressing shock that they're not going to hire.

00:32:23.000 Well, Ward, what did you think was going to happen? You cut from this clown show in City Hall is something else. 0.93

00:32:29.000 But it is starting to backfire and they're starting to feel some of that pressure. 0.98

00:32:32.000 And that's why we're seeing guys like Sutherland and Keating suddenly trying to make excuses for this foolishness.

00:32:37.000 But they always seem to be reactive and really don't understand when they're stepping into the pile of manure until they have their ankle deep in it.

00:32:45.000 Maybe there's a chance that they'll regain some common sense in this next meeting and back off on this.

00:32:51.000 Look, when we get rid of the rest of the government, then we can defund the police.

00:32:54.000 Hey, give me open carry laws and I could go with a lot less police.

00:32:57.000 Yeah, well, you know, if I'm allowed to pack when I walk down Stephen Avenue, I feel pretty good without police.

00:33:04.000 That's fine. But until this is the problem of the left here.

00:33:10.000 They propose changing doing away with police.

00:33:15.000 I shouldn't say the whole left, but the more extreme left, although now even the moderate left is kowtowing to it with partial police defunding.

00:33:22.000 But they're not you know, they talk about doing away with this without putting anything in its place.

00:33:28.000 If you're going to have reduced policing, you must allow greater freedom of the individual to protect themselves.

00:33:34.000 That's not what they're talking about.

00:33:36.000 They want still zero zero right to defend yourselves.

00:33:39.000 All these same people oppose castle doctrine.

00:33:42.000 They oppose stand your ground doctrine.

00:33:44.000 They oppose gun rights.

00:33:46.000 They oppose virtually any form of self defense, except the most extreme cases.

00:33:51.000 And they support getting rid of the police or defunding the police in some form.

00:33:55.000 So you got to put something in its place.

00:33:57.000 And they're not proposing to take a single dollar of defunding the police, put it back to taxpayers.

00:34:02.000 They want to put it into more fluffy social programs.

00:34:05.000 It's just absurd.

00:34:07.000 There's something else that needs a great reset, Calgary City Council.

00:34:10.000 Oh, yes.

00:34:11.000 Hey, that's a good slogan.

00:34:13.000 I think for the great reset.

00:34:16.000 Add them to the list with the United Nations.

00:34:18.000 Jeremy, if you're listening, there's another brochure tip for you.

00:34:21.000 Yeah.

00:34:22.000 Well, we're going to go through some of the outstanding questions and comments that we haven't gotten to yet.

00:34:27.000 Bonnie Mathenson, anybody catch the article on Trudeau's plans for a national lockdown for six weeks?

00:34:34.000 Well, if that were threatened, then we'd be caught outside of our area of military.

00:34:40.000 We'll haul us off to internment camps. 0.98

00:34:43.000 Stand up for our rights, Mr. Kenny.

00:34:44.000 You better stand up for your constituents.

00:34:45.000 It's morally and ethically wrong.

00:34:47.000 Stop right there.

00:34:49.000 There is no proposal that I'm aware of for the military to set up internment camps like it's Dachau and send you away.

00:34:56.000 They are using some authoritarian and dangerous language.

00:35:00.000 These isolation camps.

00:35:02.000 There hasn't been any sign yet that these would be mandatory.

00:35:06.000 I mean, if there is a camp for people who are infected and it is voluntary.

00:35:10.000 A quarantine facility or something I'll call it.

00:35:12.000 I'm pretty sure they'll stay away from the word camp.

00:35:14.000 I mean, yeah, the original concentration camps were set up by the British in South Africa during the Boer Wars, but they don't really use that word anymore.

00:35:23.000 It means different things.

00:35:25.000 No, the government is the military.

00:35:27.000 The government's not going to come, you know, like the Gestapo and take you and throw you in a camp.

00:35:32.000 That is not something we have seen yet.

00:35:34.000 Actually, no, in Quebec, we think we actually did.

00:35:36.000 I think we saw an isolated case in Quebec where the police did essentially forcefully take someone away.

00:35:42.000 I think they arrested a woman who had been ordered to stay home and was refused.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, no.

00:35:47.000 I think she was actively infected, though, wasn't she?

00:35:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:51.000 She was not a random person.

00:35:52.000 And there's cause to be concern as things perhaps spiral deeper into higher infections and more deaths that some of these controls might really get out of control.

00:36:00.000 So we do have to be worried.

00:36:01.000 As I said, the internment camps and military coming around, I think, is well off of the horizon and distant.

00:36:07.000 But we do have to be vigilant because we have some very eager authoritarians.

00:36:11.000 Well, we have seen massive encroachments of authoritarianism, even early signs of a totalitarianism right across the world, not just in Canada in this.

00:36:22.000 This has seen a massive expansion of government powers.

00:36:25.000 Once government powers are taken, they're rarely given back in full measure.

00:36:30.000 And also, you should remember, Justin Trudeau has no constitutional authority for a national lockdown.

00:36:36.000 Healthcare is an exclusively provincial area of jurisdiction.

00:36:39.000 The Supreme Courts have incorrectly ruled in the past that the federal government's allowed to fund healthcare, but it's not allowed to dictate on-the-ground healthcare policy.

00:36:49.000 Justin Trudeau has no grounds to do it.

00:36:51.000 Justin Trudeau can announce that he's calling for one and try to bully the premiers to do it.

00:36:57.000 He has every right to use his bully pulpit to do that.

00:37:00.000 And you could see that.

00:37:01.000 I'd be surprised.

00:37:02.000 Behind the scenes, I believe he already is doing that.

00:37:06.000 But he has no power to actually enact it himself.

00:37:09.000 But I'd certainly be on guard against him.

00:37:12.000 I think if he had the power to do it, I think he would have a long time ago.

00:37:16.000 I think we would have been in a very prolonged lockdown already.

00:37:19.000 So thank God that this is in the power of the provinces.

00:37:23.000 As draconian as the provinces have been, I think Ottawa would have been much worse.

00:37:27.000 Donna Slater says, if they lock down, then everything should close except medical services.

00:37:34.000 I say no to a lockdown.

00:37:36.000 But if they have to, then they should close everything and warn people.

00:37:40.000 I think there's a bit of validity to it.

00:37:42.000 I mean, we've talked about that and how inconsistent some of these piecemeal things are and things coming and going.

00:37:47.000 If, in fact, this latest buzzword, circuit breaker, I love how they attach the words to try and make a spoonful of sugar, I guess.

00:37:57.000 If you want it to be effective, you've got to go for real.

00:38:00.000 You've got to lock people right up for a couple of weeks.

00:38:03.000 And I don't feel confident that that necessarily would even work.

00:38:07.000 But a piecemeal halfway lockdown where we're still going to the grocery store, we're still interacting and going out, I don't know how effective it might be.

00:38:16.000 Which said it would be a catastrophic lockdown if you did it that way as well.

00:38:21.000 But your point's valid, you know, I mean, saying no to it.

00:38:24.000 But if you're going to do it, don't piss around.

00:38:27.000 If you're going to do a lockdown, they should say, okay, buy your groceries in the next two days, stock up, you know, make your own toilet paper, whatever you got to do.

00:38:38.000 Everyone's going to shut down and you have to do it for several months, simply doing it for just two weeks and stuff.

00:38:44.000 It doesn't do it.

00:38:46.000 But I don't think you're going to see mass compliance anymore.

00:38:49.000 I think people do not, because the modeling, you know, the government cry wolf.

00:38:54.000 And I don't think the government was lying when they released this modeling.

00:38:58.000 Jason Kenney is not an economic modeler.

00:39:01.000 He's not a pandemic modeler.

00:39:05.000 You have these, you know, World Health Organization folks, and they're informing everything else.

00:39:12.000 It goes down to government public health authorities like Hinshaw and TAM and stuff like this.

00:39:18.000 And they work from that.

00:39:19.000 And I think they're working in good faith.

00:39:22.000 I don't think they intentionally exaggerated.

00:39:24.000 But their modeling was not even close.

00:39:27.000 I think it was the same people who model election projections.

00:39:30.000 No, those guys are bang on compared to what we had for this.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 So I don't think people have the faith in government anymore.

00:39:40.000 I think they cried wolf, even if it wasn't a lie.

00:39:42.000 They were so wrong about it.

00:39:44.000 People are not going to put up with it anymore.

00:39:46.000 People are sick and tired of this.

00:39:47.000 So some people will love it.

00:39:49.000 You know, they see this as a virtue signaling thing, virtue signaling kind of thing.

00:39:54.000 Some people who are generally vulnerable, like the elderly or people with preexisting conditions, they'll go with it.

00:40:00.000 The Karens will go with it. 0.98

00:40:01.000 They see it as a great moral virtue signaling.

00:40:04.000 They'll do it.

00:40:05.000 But I think a good 50 to 60% of people, at least in Alberta, kind of people that we know around here, they're going to say no.

00:40:14.000 I'm just going to, fine, if I can't go to the pub, I'm having someone over to the house.

00:40:18.000 We're still having Christmas. 0.99

00:40:19.000 To hell with you guys. 0.92

00:40:21.000 You were wrong once. 0.97

00:40:22.000 You're probably wrong again.

00:40:23.000 Too bad.

00:40:30.000 Jason Page says, the virus isn't going away.

00:40:32.000 We need to keep the vulnerable safe while going about our everyday lives.

00:40:35.000 Well, Jason Page, recent immigrant from Sweden, I think.

00:40:40.000 He gets it.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 And that's exactly what Dr.

00:40:44.000 Hawkinson said in the story that's on the website now.

00:40:48.000 These lockdowns and masks are a waste of time to protect the elderly and the vulnerable.

00:40:52.000 And everybody else get on with it.

00:40:55.000 Yeah.

00:40:56.000 Scott Cardale, not a question.

00:40:58.000 Just a comment.

00:40:59.000 Fire government employees.

00:41:00.000 Okay.

00:41:01.000 Agreed.

00:41:02.000 Civic.

00:41:03.000 All?

00:41:04.000 All?

00:41:05.000 Federal?

00:41:06.000 Provincial?

00:41:07.000 As many as we can.

00:41:08.000 Sheldon Johnson, more leftist lunacy will mean more support for Wexit.

00:41:12.000 Win-win.

00:41:13.000 Win-win.

00:41:14.000 Well, you know, for every action there is an equal and opposite counteraction.

00:41:22.000 I mean, I think there is some overlap between the, you know, pandemic, forgetting the conspiracy

00:41:29.000 guys, but like the skeptic folks, which I think I put myself into skeptics about, you

00:41:35.000 know, how extreme we need to be about this stuff.

00:41:37.000 There's some overlap between the pandemic skeptic folks and Wexit.

00:41:42.000 Uh, I think they're two very different movements, but I think there's an overlap because both

00:41:46.000 tend to have a, uh, be skeptical of government power.

00:41:50.000 Well, the reset, if it happened and you tore the economy down to nothing, you know,

00:41:53.000 the government in power at the time can't be necessarily in control of what is going to emerge.

00:41:58.000 So the point might be valid.

00:41:59.000 That might be the way that, okay, we're ready for the reset, but the West is, you know,

00:42:03.000 we're not taking your socialist thing.

00:42:04.000 We're actually building a wall in Manitoba and Ontario and you guys go to town.

00:42:08.000 We're out.

00:42:09.000 So careful what you wish for, Justin.

00:42:11.000 Uh, Jared Bonnet says, uh, Trudeau operates a very dishonest government.

00:42:16.000 Why would he all of a sudden change when it comes to rounding up dissidents?

00:42:20.000 Uh, because he doesn't have the constitutional power to do so without like his father invoking,

00:42:25.000 uh, the emergency, the national emergencies act.

00:42:28.000 Uh, when his father did it, it was called the war measures act.

00:42:31.000 It's much more, uh, civilized sounding now.

00:42:35.000 Instead of the war measures act, it's the national emergencies act.

00:42:38.000 Uh, without that, uh, without invoking that, uh, you can't just go rounding up dissidents willy nilly.

00:42:47.000 They just don't have the, even if they were inclined to do so, they can't.

00:42:51.000 We don't have a military big enough.

00:42:53.000 It would be, I have the will to go after people.

00:42:55.000 I mean, I, there's fears of these things and they've happened in modern day,

00:42:58.000 but I think we're quite a ways from there yet.

00:43:00.000 Look, if Alberta refused to comply with Ottawa, Ottawa couldn't even invade us.

00:43:05.000 What are they going to do?

00:43:06.000 Send the army?

00:43:07.000 What army?

00:43:08.000 Like there's nothing.

00:43:10.000 We've got all the fighter jets.

00:43:12.000 Yeah.

00:43:13.000 All dozen or so.

00:43:15.000 Shut down Cold Lake.

00:43:16.000 I mean, and let them send their, let them send their submarines.

00:43:19.000 I'm more in the West Edmonton mall than Canada.

00:43:21.000 So there we go.

00:43:22.000 Uh, well folks, uh, I think we're going to wrap it there, but, uh, we're grateful for your time.

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00:44:02.000 But at prices, that'll be closer to the strap war times.

00:44:06.000 That's a deal.

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