00:02:18.980Um, so we're going to talk about the Quebec election, uh, in particular to what impact or influence that might have on the coming Alberta quasi-independence referendum of October 19th.
00:02:32.940But first, we're going to start with transnational news, uh, an arrest, uh, in the Tubler Ridge, uh, mass shooting case, uh, yesterday.
00:02:43.920uh David was in uh Washington state so you know pretty culturally similar to uh parts at least of
00:02:51.380British Columbia um we uh I remember we uh we were really leading with our nose uh when that story
00:02:58.880was breaking at the Western Standard was the first media outlet on the planet to confirm uh the
00:03:04.160identity of the shooter we um we had pretty strong suspicions that this was a trans-related shooting
00:03:10.260we are the first on the planet to confirm it was and then you know you had politicians and the
00:03:15.180entire nearly the entire legacy media in Canada all crying how dare you even pointed out uh that
00:03:20.860the the shooter is trans this has nothing to do with it when it very obviously did we did not use
00:03:25.840the preferred pronouns of the shooter people thought we were uh racist or something for that
00:03:30.360I don't I forget how that works now um uh but yeah an arrest of an accomplice in uh Washington
00:03:38.340state yes and uh surprisingly he was also trans surprisingly but it has nothing to do with the
00:03:45.700case no nothing to do with the case but this guy was up to his elbows in it uh he had met the the
00:03:52.020tumblr ridge shooter online a couple of years ago and they they went through the plot and
00:03:58.340he sent him money to buy stockings and and nice shoes to wear for the shooting was it the sugar
00:04:06.900mommy or daddy uh i'm trying to get it right yeah sugar thing uh sugar thing sugar thing um but yeah
00:04:15.780he was instrumental in planning it they did dry runs he was going to live stream it on on facebook
00:04:22.660uh thank god facebook shut it down after after a few seconds and his involvement was so much that
00:04:31.220After the killer had wiped out his family, he went to drive to the school to shoot it up, and he couldn't get the car going.
00:04:39.640So this guy in Washington State helped him get the car going, giving them instructions on what to do to get the car going.
00:04:47.100And then, you know, followed him along as he shot up the school.
00:04:50.720So the FBI was called in, and yeah, he's, you know, hopefully they haven't really said yet,
00:04:57.860But hopefully, uh, they try him in the States and not Canada, because he'll
00:05:02.540do way more time in the States, uh, than he ever would here.
00:05:06.560Well, I think the charge against him is aiding a murder in a foreign country.
00:05:11.720So, I mean, that's a domestic charge on the part of the Americans.
00:05:14.480So I would suspect there's no talk about extradition or anything.
00:05:17.120He committed his crime from the United States.
00:05:19.700No, I mean, oh God, I mean, he'd be let out for within weeks.
00:05:24.860But yeah, it's, you know, we first brought it out, but it is a big issue now. You look at all the recent school shootings in the United States, and a lot of them are trans-related. They're done by kids who say they're transitioning. And it shows, you know, a mental illness that is a huge problem.
00:05:44.540It doesn't necessarily mean that being trans is a mental illness, but yeah, it's insensitive to say, but it's obvious we know it that at the very least a large portion, if not, there's a direct correlation with gender dysphoria, being trans, with at least it being a symptom of some other mental illness.
00:06:06.340Not that being trans is a mental illness, but it's often, it seems that it's obviously a symptom of something.
00:06:11.740You know, some trans people are just living stable, normal lives.
00:06:14.980They've just transitioned, done what they're doing and good on them, fine, be happy.0.77
00:06:18.700But there is, and because it's become such a trend, it has, let's face it.0.85
00:06:22.300You know, where did the goth kids go?0.62
00:07:38.160Alex has been through the 41-page indictment, and it details a lot of the conversation, so I'd like to hear what stood out for him.
00:07:47.320Yeah, Alex, you went through the indictment.
00:07:50.620What stands out for you that we don't already know from kind of the major headlines in legacy media?
00:07:58.100Yeah, so I think what stood out for me and what I think is getting lost a little bit in the trans discussion is the fact that this was just a predatory adult speaking to a minor.
00:08:06.040And I'd actually be curious to hear your guys' thoughts on whether this changes your thinking or leads to an evolution in your thinking in terms of age verification for these platforms.
00:08:17.680Well, no, no. I mean, like, screwed up people don't get the cause, everyone else losing their freedoms, period.
00:08:24.080I mean, the Internet is going to be a place of predators. It's going to be a place of creeps.0.91
00:08:29.180And there is only so much we can do to protect it. It's not worth giving up our liberties for it.
00:08:33.860But yeah, so there's that dynamic. But what else in the indictment stands out for you that you saw in there?
00:08:43.860Yeah, there were some particularly disturbing images. I mean, this kind of circles back to the trans issue, but one of them was a picture of the gun that was used allegedly in the crime, which was interesting because the RCMP has been quite reluctant to release any information related to that.
00:09:02.500And the gun had a trans activism sticker on it and also had what appeared to be a trans activism sticker or maybe a scrunchie along the barrel of the gun.
00:09:12.740The journalist, Andy Ngo, who I believe is based out of Portland, but I think he goes into Washington state quite often, made the rather interesting point that this means people would have been killed literally through the barrel of a trans gun, which is quite disturbing to think about.
00:11:17.080And in the criminal complaint, they mentioned that Discord had reached out to the RCMP proactively with regards to information that they had connected to the Tumblr Ridge shooter.
00:11:29.360The RCMP had already disclosed that they were familiar with Jesse Van Rootselaar because they had been there on numerous wellness checks.
00:11:39.280He had also tried burning his own house down, which I think they had to attend to.
00:11:42.540so this was there any evidence though i guess of any flags coming up with that other gentleman in
00:11:49.900the united states before any of this happened i mean there was obviously a lot of conversation
00:11:53.320and planning but and i'm glad he's caught even after the fact but was there any possible chance
00:11:58.420of heading this off i i don't think so i imagine that it's fairly difficult for these um social
00:12:04.960media applications or companies to parse through what is serious and what is sarcastic i imagine
00:12:10.340people say all kinds of crazy things on the internet that they don't actually intend to do
00:12:14.580so i would be surprised if there was any advance warning provided to the police
00:12:19.300so i i wanted before we move on i want to talk about media coverage of it so as i mentioned you
00:12:24.660know when the westerns when the original tumblr ridge shooting took place you know we were we
00:12:29.300were up late we had uh was it will vassar well yeah we sent will vassar our edmonton report he
00:12:35.460was actually the closest to tumblr ridge we had him drive all the way from edmonton overnight
00:12:40.180to get there in the morning but we actually had contacts on the ground living in Tumblr Ridge
00:12:45.580kind of just lucky that we actually had knew some people so we you know we confirmed the identity
00:12:51.020and the gender identity of of the shooter uh as the first meeting in the world on this story
00:12:55.920uh but either you're the CBC Toronto Star uh all the usual CTV Global they all ran stories about
00:13:05.540how is this was bigoted to even mention the gender identity of of the shooter um you know it raised
00:13:13.700questions for us first when it was not a male shooter because most violent crimes are committed
00:13:18.740by men and then this was identified as the police kind of intimated a oh there was a female shooter
00:13:25.540ish and then we instantly knew we're like bet it's not bet it's not wasn't there initial sort of text
00:13:33.620active shooter dress in a dress or just in a dress they didn't say one they didn't say man
00:13:41.460that's a little what infuriates me with this if we have an active scene it's like exactly it's
00:13:47.140like the edmonton one two with that predator they released and i remember reading that press release
00:13:51.940and it says this woman who's got a history of you know uh molesting children and things like that
00:13:56.500be on the lookout and i thought wow and then i click on the release and open it up and there's
00:14:00.260a dude with a five o'clock shadow and earrings on like if you really want to make the public safe
00:14:05.300i would have been out looking for a woman by that description just say it on the radio just say what
00:14:10.100it is for the sake of public safety i'm sorry if it's insensitive but too damn bad if we get an
00:14:14.580active shooter i want as accurate a description as possible so the people out there know what
00:14:19.540to watch for when they hunker down well i i could be wrong about this but i believe the original
00:14:24.260police warning was a woman wearing a dress which i found particularly disturbing because that would
00:14:31.060put any woman wearing a dress technically at risk right because people could mistake her for the
00:14:35.860shooting it's a live situation yeah and and the description well the description was also a red1.00
00:14:42.180flag for many people number one as you've already noted um it's very rare for women to engage in0.98
00:14:46.980mass shooting incidents and number two a woman wearing a dress is sort of a redundant phrase
00:14:51.540It's like saying a man wearing pants, right?
00:14:54.400I mean, yeah, it set off red flags for a lot of people and led them to speculate.
00:14:59.320So, Alex, my question is about media coverage of this, the Washington state arrest here in British Columbia.
00:15:06.840So I know, you know, we had a lot of media attacking us for being whatever phobics and isms when we named the shooter as trans.
00:15:17.760And then we discussed the relevance of it on shows and in opinion pieces afterwards.
00:15:25.360How has the media that you've seen, legacy media you've seen, covering the Washington State arrest of the transnational shooter,
00:15:35.720have they been respecting preferred pronouns?
00:15:39.080Have they been trying to leave, have they mentioned or not the trans identity of the shooter?
00:15:44.660what kind of nomenclature have they used in this yeah so much like in Canada and NBC in particular
00:15:52.340much of the mainstream or legacy media if you will have been referring to the individual Cody
00:15:57.860James Bryant as a she they also referred to him as a she in the courtroom which is again analogous
00:16:04.380to what we would typically do here in British Columbia but there is also some alt we for lack
00:16:08.480of a better term what you might refer to as alternative media who are referring to the
00:16:13.600individual by the pronouns that correspond with his biological sex.
00:16:19.000It is striking too, though, that other aspect, I'm glad you brought up
00:16:22.000because I just hadn't thought of it really, but you know, this is another
00:16:24.760facet when we are talking about a predatory online person, though.
00:16:28.760It is something to be concerned about.
00:16:30.700The age spread is big and this is worse than, you know, just your run of the
00:16:34.520mill pervert, if you want to call it that.
00:16:36.080I mean, he helped and counseled that guy into committing one of the most
00:16:39.940horrific things we've ever seen in Western Canada.
00:16:41.920Yeah, I completely agree. I don't think that I will be breaking any news when I say that the internet is swimming with predators. But I think that that is kind of the bigger issue that maybe we're losing here is the fact that, you know, it's quite disturbing for any parent, I would imagine, to think about the fact that this type of person may be speaking to their child.
00:17:00.580And so it does give me pause for thought on perhaps some sort of age verification system on the internet. I understand that teenagers as well are not exactly known for compliance. So, I mean, I question how effective that would be if I steal my own suggestion here, but it does make you think. I mean, especially when it comes to children, I'm willing to give up an ounce of my privacy for a pound of their security. It's children.
00:17:25.240i still don't think it'll protect children uh so um yeah anyway it was obvious when the first when
00:17:33.320this story first broke with the tumblr ridge shooting as soon as the police description said
00:17:38.680woman in address or person address whatever it was and where you and i just looked at each other
00:17:42.280we're like it's not a woman we knew well it's used the policing statistics as well right so
00:17:49.480the policing statistics i believe they've been very very closed mouth about it but apparently
00:17:54.280they're counting this as a female murderer which you know that that i imagine has downstream
00:17:59.780i'm happy to have one less in the men in the men's category but like come on and another aspect did
00:18:06.920it talk much about actually the ai element i know that was big up here there's the suit against
00:18:11.640chat gpt because you've been communicating with that and that's another kind of rabbit hole though
00:18:17.420i mean ai could counsel people into nasty things but if we're talking about something that could
00:18:21.760be online and watch the dangerous discussion and raise flags when there's a problem ai is probably
00:18:26.320the perfect tool for that too but yeah yeah there was there was a really good story on that actually
00:18:31.360on the ai element and what had happened originally was according to this story van rootsalar was
00:18:36.100kicked off of the chat gpt platform and then when he created a new account to go back on he informed
00:18:42.180chat gpt that his previous account had been deleted and chat gpt advised him on how to get around the
00:18:47.160protocols for discussing violent activity. But one thing that's also very interesting about this
00:18:53.080most recent Tumblr Ridge development is people are questioning whether it will have any impact
00:18:57.460on the civil suit occurring between dozens of victims and the province of BC against ChatGBT,
00:19:03.240because the argument in that civil suit was that the chatbot had essentially convinced
00:19:07.600Van Root Salaar to commit this horrific act, but now it appears as though a regular, well,
00:19:12.020not regular a somewhat irregular human being um encourage him to do it instead of a chatbot so
00:19:18.020it'll be interesting to see if it has any implications on that case there definitely
00:19:21.620are restrictions on uh these things now i uh for you know getting to halloween here and so i i bought
00:19:28.820a fairly human-sized skeleton i wanted to hang it from a tree with a hangman's noose and i asked uh
00:19:35.060i asked grok uh how to how to make a hangman's noose and it just says you need to call this
00:19:40.420number for help right now don't do it i was like no no this is for halloween i'm trying to hang a
00:19:45.060plastic skeleton from a tree over my driveway i would have figured it'd accuse you being a klansman
00:19:51.780thank you i don't i don't know alex uh one of the inspirational stories that came out of tumblr
00:19:58.420tumblr ridge is a little maya i know you've been following her recovery how is she doing
00:20:05.140she's doing surprisingly well it's been a miraculous recovery all things considered so
00:20:09.460I believe she went through several skull or what is it? What do they call it? I'm not a doctor.
00:20:17.640She went through several different surgeries and she has began to be almost verbal. She is able to
00:20:25.780do hand gestures to express joy. She appears to be surprisingly well adjusted. There was a video
00:20:31.680posted recently of her dancing with a friend. So it has been a rare glimpse of inspiration amidst
00:26:11.140right after the referendum and he wanted to hold a third one
00:26:14.980but his point was we're not gonna call one until we have what he called winning conditions and that
00:26:21.920means setting things up on the federal provincial relations stage to make clear to nationalist
00:26:28.540Quebecers that they can't get what they want with Ottawa in Canada and then you hold the referendum
00:26:34.720and I've always said this uh is one of the big possibly the single biggest problem with the
00:26:41.760Alberta independence movement is that it has never paid any any attention to winning conditions
00:26:46.980it was always just like let's just hold the vote as soon as we can and the people will rise up with
00:26:52.180us and that's just not the way it normally works um you know I've always thought we should have
00:26:58.100one round of referendums first on constitutional reform here which will go nowhere but they should
00:27:03.940be good faith efforts and then the constitution the second five questions are what we have but0.97
00:27:08.060we're holding them at the second at the same time which is idiotic yeah so we're talking about0.96
00:27:11.780getting rid of the senate and provincial employment of upper court judges on the same ballot it's1.00
00:27:16.940it's idiotic to hold it this way you hold that first and then six months later you hold your0.81
00:27:20.240referendum on independence and so uh palado here has made clear it's about winning conditions you0.94
00:27:27.340don't want to hold a referendum if you don't think you've got at least a 50 50 shot of winning
00:27:32.220which is in contrast to alberta where which it was just the excitement of like hey we've
00:27:37.200got the citizens initiative thing. Let's go do it. It was like a dog chasing a car.
00:27:43.640Well, I mean, just to say, if anybody had read my original version of the Sovereignty Sandbook,
00:27:47.860I wrote that a few years ago and I did say in it, we aren't ready. I literally had that in
00:27:53.580the chapter saying, we need to get this done. We need to get this done. We need to build those
00:27:57.660winning conditions. Then the trigger got pulled and I wrote my updated version as well. We're
00:28:01.540heading for it now. So I might as well kind of soft sell that chapter. I think maybe I'll have
00:28:06.620to put out a volume three and bring the original chapter back in if things don't go on the 19th.
00:28:12.000But, but yeah, no, you're, you're absolutely correct.
00:28:14.360Like my advice at that time was, you know, I think we need to move towards it.
00:28:17.140I think we got the, the ability and the momentum, but there's a lot of work we need to do first.
00:28:20.840And as soon as they had the opportunity with this citizens initiative, they, they jumped in full
00:28:26.320feet and, and here we are off to the races and, uh, hoping for the best and certainly sending a,
00:28:31.580you know, a message and that sort of thing and, and a campaigning rate for this, this next final
00:28:35.32010 days, but it's going to be hard to see if we can get over the line. Uh, Alex, uh, yeah,
00:28:40.560I know Quebec is pretty far away from you. It's pretty far, even further away from us in some
00:28:44.920ways. Um, but, uh, well, yeah, the only time we have French people here is when they're picking1.00
00:28:51.820berries in the Okanagan in the summer. Yeah. Uh, our French people work at the gate of Banff0.99
00:28:58.380and Jasper where you pay your ticket to enter the park because they have to be bilingual and
00:29:02.060None of us are. But I want to see if you've noticed this. I've noticed, you know, in all media0.99
00:29:09.240covering the Alberta independence movement, that the pro-independence movement are called
00:29:14.500separatists, and they're framed as downright treasonous. And I've noticed in the national
00:29:21.400media, at least, you know, the PQ and Plomondon, they're called sovereigntists or nationalists.
00:29:28.100And they're viewed, you know, not necessarily favorably, I don't think that'd be fair to say, but at least with more understanding and empathy. They're, they're just trying to be the best Quebecers they could be. How have you, maybe tell me what you've seen in the national media from your spot in BC?
00:29:47.000Yeah, I mean, in BC, much like I think in the rest of the country, the word separatist does seem to carry a negative connotation. David Eby in particular has tried to couple the concept of Alberta independence with Donald Trump, which I think in some jurisdictions has been a fairly effective campaign strategy, surprisingly enough, especially in areas in eastern BC.
00:30:13.500I think about the Caribou region where it's really close to Alberta and there's a lot of anti-Trumpers there.
00:30:18.780Those are probably not winnable ridings for him anyway, though.
00:30:22.280So, yeah, it's mostly used as a political weapon during an election campaign more than anything else.
00:30:28.880I don't think any of us are having really sophisticated or deep level discussions on the possibility.
00:30:35.300Like, what's the difference been in media coverage that you've seen of the Alberta independence movement here and then the election of a pro-independence PQ government?
00:31:09.320Well, I was going to say in terms of Alberta, though, they very much coupled it with what they call mega politics.
00:31:15.540And it's more or less just a campaign strategy for the EB government.
00:31:19.620I would say that at the ground level, the interest in Alberta independence here is also fairly limited for various reasons.
00:31:26.500Mostly, it's just people that are hysterical about Donald Trump that are interested in it for their own reasons.
00:31:31.040Two tweets of note today. Elon Musk, the world's richest man and first trillionaire, responded to Quebec's election, saying Quebec should separate. And then he added on another tweet saying Alberta and Saskatchewan should separate too.
00:31:48.020And Jeffrey Raff, our favorite separatist leader, sorry, independence leader, says Jesus Christ would want Alberta to be independent.
00:32:56.620Yeah, they did one just a couple of years ago, too.
00:32:58.860You know, I'm semi-sympathetic to the Kalistani movement for independence.
00:33:04.200You know, there are people who want national self-determination, have their own independent state.
00:33:08.080So I'm not without some sympathy for it.
00:33:11.240Over there, as soon as you bring it here, like, no, it should crush you now.
00:33:19.220I think it would be difficult to overstate how repressive the Indian regime is.
00:33:23.540and also similarly well actually invert go fight it over there not here well no you can't i mean
00:33:28.980that's the thing like there are two calistani members in um the indian parliament they're in
00:33:34.400jail right so it's it's not a place where where peaceful protest is really but it's not our
00:33:40.440freaking problem you want to bring your domestic politics to alberta to canada uh yeah no i lose
00:33:48.280all sympathy at that point well i think that the best analogy i could use international relations
00:33:52.920our foreign affairs it's like when you bring you bring israel you bring palestine you bring any uh0.91
00:33:59.100you bring pakistan versus india any of this shit you bring it here you're trying to influence our0.90
00:34:04.020our our foreign policy and our domestic affairs based on your tribal affairs back home i'm sorry0.98
00:34:10.300yeah i don't see too many uh uh calistanis rallying for alberta independence in calistine
00:34:18.980Well, actually, the other interesting thing about the Kalistan movement, and this may be actually because of the repression in India, but it almost exists exclusively in the overseas diaspora.
00:34:31.520There actually is very little traction for the movement in India, which is another interesting little side plot.
00:34:41.060I just know I got myself into a whole world of trouble when I talked to Prasad about it in an interview, and then I had a bunch of Sikh individuals.1.00
00:39:21.680And his campaign has just been disastrous.
00:39:24.220You know, day one, it's all about Donald Trump and, you know, and now he's completely reversed that because all the issues that people care about in British Columbia, Donald Trump is like way down the list.
00:39:35.160They care about hospitals and getting a doctor and, you know, the economics, owning a house.
00:39:43.480Yeah, and I just to piggyback off of that, originally he thought he was running against Carrie Lynn Finley, which he called a mega regional manager.
00:39:50.980And so all of this conservative infighting and the replacement of her with Lauren Dirksen as the leader, who is by most estimates a very centrist moderate with held in high regard on both sides of the aisle and then in the legislature, it completely ruined their narrative.
00:40:05.400and the narrative itself, even if Carrie Lynn Finley was the leader, doesn't entirely make
00:40:09.100sense because they already had a majority. So the narrative that they've spun is that they needed to
00:40:14.420have an election so that they weren't at risk of dissolving the government so that they could
00:40:18.540defend themselves against an existential threat presented by Donald Trump, but then they dissolved
00:40:22.940to the government, which doesn't actually make sense. And now they're running against their own
00:40:27.280healthcare record saying that the wait times are too long and there's no MRIs, but they've been the
00:40:31.560governing party for nine years. So none of the messaging is sticking because none of it is
00:40:36.940rational. He's desperate. Well, actually, let's really quickly just touch on the polls. The polls
00:40:44.260I've seen range from the Conservatives have a very small lead in a statistical tie, but with a very
00:40:50.820small lead to a pretty substantial lead at this point. Yeah, I mean, I always think of the polls
00:41:00.140is a bit like the scoreboard don't watch the scoreboard you're missing a good game on the ice
00:41:03.580but at the same time i i also express skepticism at some of these polls um one of them has the
00:41:10.000conservatives at a super majority at somewhere around 68 seats i saw today that seems just
00:41:15.200patently unrealistic to me that would require you know virtually all of the downtown vancouver
00:41:19.640writings to swing conservative which is just not going to happen i think that the most and we're
00:41:24.520many weeks away so it's kind of a fool's errand for me to make a prediction at this point because
00:41:30.100so much can change and a week is a lifetime in politics. But I imagine that the legislature will
00:41:34.360look very, very similar to the way it did before the election, which is to say one of the parties
00:41:39.280will win with a one or two seat majority, perhaps even with the Green Party, or even one seat
00:41:44.840belonging to Senator BC being the balance of power, which again, renders the whole purpose
00:41:49.260of the election meaningless. Real, real quick before we wrap, has one BC, you know, Dallas
00:41:57.240Brody's you know further uh you know a more right populist party has it been able to catch any
00:42:04.220traction and insert itself into the narrative of this election it certainly has on x but x is not
00:42:11.720necessarily the best reflection of real life a lot of weird things have happened with 1bc in this
00:42:16.540election cycle so far at one point Dallas Brody said that she intended to run 93 candidates so
00:42:22.440would be one in every riding uh then she said that she was going to stand down in eight ridings0.99
00:42:27.480because those writings contained what she called principled conservatives then she reneged that
00:42:33.400offer and ended up running i think in two or three seats against those principled conservatives
00:42:38.120anyway and i believe that was because they reneged and ran against her right well there was never any
00:42:43.160promise that they wouldn't run against her in vancouver kilchana and as a major political party
00:42:47.000it would be silly to do that anyway i mean you might as well run a candidate in every riding
00:42:51.560if you can funnily enough the bc ndp who called the snap election failed to put a candidate in
00:42:56.600all the writings which is the first time that's ever happened actually for the modern ndp
00:43:01.880that is funny yeah they weren't even prepared they actually almost missed a few seats uh to
00:43:06.760get their papers in so and the writing actually is interesting as well so that's peace river north
00:43:11.560where jordan keely currently sits as an independent mla he left the party as well during the john
00:43:16.760Rustad leadership crisis, but he remains an independent because he is facing criminal charges
00:43:21.840for sexual assault and is looking at a jury trial in July. And Amelia Boulpe, who crossed the floor
00:43:27.660from independent to the BCNDP, had actually introduced a private member's bill saying that
00:43:32.300any individuals charged under such crime should be booted from the legislature. So the BCNDP now,
00:43:38.080I'm surprised no reporters have asked about this, should have to explain to the public why they were
00:43:43.020unable to put a candidate in a riding where they had introduced the law to have that candidate
00:43:47.820kicked out of where they introduced the law to essentially penalize someone before the proven
00:43:51.820guilty so well yeah i mean uh but but such a law exists at the municipal level so you know uh
00:43:58.180there's an individual here in penticton for instance who is a city councillor he was charged
00:44:02.500you're out of time we're out i'm sorry sorry sorry alex but yeah i appreciate that
00:44:06.580okay uh well uh dave parting shot cultural disaster in alberta this week derek with the
00:44:14.680closing of the torrington gopher museum let's put that up on the screen this is a cultural
00:44:20.080gem of alberta world famous torrington gopher machine a gopher museum has made news all over
00:44:27.280the world over the years and uh sadly has been forced to shut its doors i uh i i'm basing this
00:44:35.180on absolutely nothing this is not solid journalism but it's just cynical suspicions for me i think
00:44:40.560they shut it down intentionally to get all the press about this and then it will reopen because
00:44:45.280they're getting global headlines sure well you know all the money that the government gives
00:44:49.580you know let's give 10 000 bucks to the gopher museum save the gophers save the gophers yeah
00:44:54.300all right cory now with me just because i'm too cheap to pay full parking i walk a long way and
00:44:58.780i come under the 8th street bridge in calgary for those unfamiliar with it they ripped up the entire
00:45:03.240southbound lane of that and built a giant bike lane in it. Now they've ripped up the northbound
00:45:08.460lane, so I guess they're sticking another one there. So Mayor Farkas, I am looking forward to
00:45:12.560the bike lane battles. I was kind of speaking on city jurisdiction before being able to stand up
00:45:16.340for it, but you clearly can't get it under control. I look forward to Devin Dreschen coming in and
00:45:20.700doing your job for you and stopping this idiocy. It's one of the, you know, it's not a ton I like0.97
00:45:25.240from Doug Ford, but I kind of did like how he stuck it to the, to the bikes. Yeah. All right,
00:45:30.620alex parting shot uh yeah parting shot i'm looking forward to the debate on october 14th
00:45:36.420we're one week away it'll be the only televised debate during the bc election so it should be uh
00:45:41.100an interesting one and do we know uh obviously the conservatives and uh the ndp are invited to
00:45:47.240participate uh the greens probably because they've been there but what about center bc and one bc are
00:45:52.560they invited to participate yeah strangely enough um one bc and center bc have been excluded i think
00:45:58.840the logic is is that you need two members in the legislature to have official party status and
00:46:03.240neither of them did at the time of the legislature being dissolved only the greens the conservatives
00:46:08.720and the ndp did but the greens have been in debates without having official party status
00:46:12.420before they got they got they had a relative to you in a deal with uh the former premier john
00:46:16.300horgan so i can speak from personal experiences but there are no hard and fast rules around this
00:46:22.080stuff it gets it there's a lot of politics and who gets into the debate who does not
00:46:26.240Okay. Well, that's it for today. We're out of time. Corey, Dave, Alex, thank you very much.
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